WEBVTT - Jon Fleischman's Voter Guide

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<v Speaker 1>Something's not right here. Crime is up all over the state.

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<v Speaker 2>The homelessness in the city is out of control.

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<v Speaker 3>The economy is sick.

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<v Speaker 2>Taxes are high.

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<v Speaker 4>Housing is expensive and businesses are leaving.

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<v Speaker 3>Leaving.

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<v Speaker 1>California needs fixing.

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<v Speaker 4>And John Phillips is just the man to lead the charge.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the Fix California Hour with John Phillips and Randy Wang.

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<v Speaker 2>And we continue at 105 in the afternoon on the

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<v Speaker 2>John Phillips Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Mr. Randy Wags in Culver City.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming up after the news at 2, if you are

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<v Speaker 2>a candidate for office whose name is on the ballot,

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<v Speaker 2>if you know someone who is a candidate for office,

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<v Speaker 2>let them know that we're going to open up the

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<v Speaker 2>phone lines the entire 2 o'clock hour and allow candidates

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<v Speaker 2>to make their final pitch to voters.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not just individuals.

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<v Speaker 2>Running for governor or treasurer or state assembly, congress, whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're an advocate for a ballot initiative, we'll talk

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<v Speaker 2>to you as well. There are a lot of different

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<v Speaker 2>things that are going to be decided in tomorrow's election.

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<v Speaker 2>So we figure, why not allow the advocates and the

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<v Speaker 2>candidates to make the case to voters themselves? So we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to do that, the 2 o'clock hour today, for

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<v Speaker 2>the full 60 minutes. But first, because there are so

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<v Speaker 2>many propositions on the ballot, we thought it would be

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<v Speaker 2>a good idea to revisit the accountability podcast that we

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<v Speaker 2>taped with John Fleischman, where we went over all of

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<v Speaker 2>the initiatives that are on your ballot. Randy, we posted

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<v Speaker 2>this on our page at johnnydontlike.com some weeks ago, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's at something like 136,000 or 137,000 views already.

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<v Speaker 3>It is by far the most popular thing we have

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<v Speaker 3>done on the channel.

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<v Speaker 1>So thank you for that. It has gone far. It

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<v Speaker 1>has gone wide.

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<v Speaker 3>This podcast currently has 137,000 views and it is full

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<v Speaker 3>of great information as to what John Fleischman and John

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<v Speaker 3>Phillips think about every single statewide ballot initiative. So without

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<v Speaker 3>further ado, in case anyone out there has not voted yet,

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<v Speaker 3>here's what you need to know about the statewide ballot propositions.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's go ahead and dive right in, shall we?

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<v Speaker 2>Proposition 1 would borrow $ 11. 25 billion for housing projects here

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<v Speaker 2>in California.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a no on that.

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<v Speaker 4>I am a no, and we're going to do this

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<v Speaker 4>pretty quick. So there's two reasons why you would want

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<v Speaker 4>to vote no on this. The first of which is that,

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<v Speaker 4>of course, if you want to solve the housing crisis

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<v Speaker 4>in California, you don't do it by borrowing more money

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<v Speaker 4>and handing it out to some people. That actually, when

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<v Speaker 4>you do that without more housing, believe it or not,

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<v Speaker 4>it actually drives up the price of housing for everyone

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<v Speaker 4>else that isn't lucky enough to get some of this

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<v Speaker 4>government-funded money. And then, of course, the other thing that's

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<v Speaker 4>important to remember is that this is a, we call

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<v Speaker 4>this a Christmas tree measure. That's where every special interest

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<v Speaker 4>group hangs an ornament on the tree. Less than 10%

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<v Speaker 4>of the money in this bond goes to veterans. But

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<v Speaker 4>yet they put it in there and put it right

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<v Speaker 4>at the front. And then when you go through it,

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<v Speaker 4>every special interest that you could think of is getting

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<v Speaker 4>their piece of money for their preferred group to get

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<v Speaker 4>subsidized money for housing. So this is a big no.

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<v Speaker 2>If we were having this conversation in the 1990s or 1980s,

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<v Speaker 2>I would be a mixed bag on bonds. It would

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<v Speaker 2>just matter as to what the money was being spent on,

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<v Speaker 2>whether I thought there was enough of a crisis.

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<v Speaker 1>And if.

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<v Speaker 2>I like the subject that the money was going to

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<v Speaker 2>or thought that we needed to spend money on it,

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<v Speaker 2>I would be a yes. But given how California spends

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<v Speaker 2>its money, I'm a no across the board on bonds

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<v Speaker 2>right now until there's some sort of provable fiscal accountability.

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<v Speaker 4>And let's remember, when you take out, say, $ 11. 25 billion

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<v Speaker 4>in bonds, especially with interest rates the way they are,

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<v Speaker 4>You will spend more than twice that paying off the bonds,

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<v Speaker 4>and all that money comes right out of the state

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<v Speaker 4>general fund. And I should also mention, this is one

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<v Speaker 4>of those measures that was put on the ballot by

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<v Speaker 4>the legislature itself. It was not signatures, so two-thirds of

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<v Speaker 4>the legislators had to put this on the ballot. I

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<v Speaker 4>got news for you. There's nothing that was placed on

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<v Speaker 4>the ballot by the legislature that you want to vote for.

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<v Speaker 2>So no on Prop 1. Proposition 2 guts the state

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<v Speaker 2>spending limit and cancels tax rebates.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a no on this.

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<v Speaker 4>I am absolutely a no. This was really written because, again,

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<v Speaker 4>they put the rainy day fund expansion. That's what's on

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<v Speaker 4>the ballot. That's the lipstick that they're putting on the pig.

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<v Speaker 4>Right now, California's got what's called the GAN limit. And

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<v Speaker 4>it says that if the state should bring in a

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<v Speaker 4>certain amount of revenue, that that money has to go

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<v Speaker 4>out to the people or go to pay down debt

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<v Speaker 4>and stuff like that. So what they do is they

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<v Speaker 4>expand the rainy day fund marginally and then remove all

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<v Speaker 4>of the other you know, spending limitations. Again, this is

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<v Speaker 4>put on the ballot by the legislature. And if you

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<v Speaker 4>look no further than the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association, when

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<v Speaker 4>they tell you that even though this thing says rainy

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<v Speaker 4>day fund, this is a bad idea and you shouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>vote for it, don't vote for it.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's no on Prop 2. On Proposition 3, you're

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<v Speaker 2>a no on that one, which would be an income

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<v Speaker 2>tax increase.

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<v Speaker 4>It is. And remember, somebody said it. You would probably

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<v Speaker 4>know who as the historian of the group. But somebody

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<v Speaker 4>once said there's nothing as temporary, as permanent as a

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<v Speaker 4>temporary tax. And that would be the case here because many,

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<v Speaker 4>many years ago in the early 10s, they passed a

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<v Speaker 4>upper bracket income tax that was all sponsored by the

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<v Speaker 4>California Teachers Association, as is this measure. They gathered signatures.

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<v Speaker 4>to put this on the ballot, but I will explain

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<v Speaker 4>how the Democrats and the legislature are complicit in this.

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<v Speaker 4>They gathered signatures because they want this tax increase to

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<v Speaker 4>be permanent. It's the kicker that adds a premium to

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<v Speaker 4>the highest tax rate in the state. And they want

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<v Speaker 4>it because they're under Prop 98, half the money that

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<v Speaker 4>comes in from this automatically has to go straight into

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<v Speaker 4>the public school system. But the reason the Democrats are

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<v Speaker 4>culpable is you'll notice that this is, Proposition three way

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<v Speaker 4>up at front. This is where typically the measures put

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<v Speaker 4>on the ballot by the legislature would be. The Democrats

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<v Speaker 4>passed without a Republican vote and the governor signed a

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<v Speaker 4>bill making an exception to put this citizen initiated, quote unquote,

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<v Speaker 4>ballot measure right up at the top of the ballot.

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<v Speaker 4>So there it is. And I strongly recommend a no

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<v Speaker 4>vote unless you think that California is doing a great

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<v Speaker 4>job with public education. Then maybe, you know, maybe you

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<v Speaker 4>think it's a good idea. They're not. That's the real answer.

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<v Speaker 1>Cecily just needs a little more money, that's all.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, and this is the kind of stuff that drives

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<v Speaker 4>people out of the state. Oh, there you go. You know, again,

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<v Speaker 4>this is why people are leaving California. You want to

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<v Speaker 4>know why U-Hauls rate their outfits in California as the

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<v Speaker 4>number one exporter of trucks. You can get paid by

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<v Speaker 4>U-Haul to drive a truck to California because that's how

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<v Speaker 4>bad they need to move here. So you want to

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<v Speaker 4>move to California? U-Haul will be like, take our truck

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<v Speaker 4>back there because we need to get more trucks back

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<v Speaker 4>into California.

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<v Speaker 2>This is one of these subjects that drives me nuts

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<v Speaker 2>because inevitably what ends up happening is in the super minority,

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<v Speaker 2>Republicans typically select a leader to run the caucus who

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<v Speaker 2>is willing to conspire with the Democrats to pass some

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<v Speaker 2>kind of tax increase or another. Or there are Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>who build themselves as moderate to conservative Democrats because they

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<v Speaker 2>represent a district in the Central Valley or Orange County

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<v Speaker 2>or San Diego County. And they vote for something like this.

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<v Speaker 2>And I go, no self-respecting person can regard themselves as

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<v Speaker 2>a moderate to conservative Democrat or a Republican of any

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<v Speaker 2>kind if you believe we are undertaxed in any way, shape,

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<v Speaker 2>or form in the state of California today. If that

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<v Speaker 2>is a belief that you have, my belief system and

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<v Speaker 2>your belief system are not the same.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just can't go along with that.

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<v Speaker 4>So we tell everyone vote no on Prop 3. Believe

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<v Speaker 4>it or not, basically, we're set up right now that

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<v Speaker 4>in 2030, we get automatic tax relief in the state

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<v Speaker 4>of California unless this passes. And it would cancel the

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<v Speaker 4>tax relief because the current sales tax premium at that

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<v Speaker 4>top end, income tax, sorry, at the top end is

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<v Speaker 4>set to expire in 2030. So all we got to

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<v Speaker 4>do is do nothing here, folks, and we get some

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<v Speaker 4>tax relief.

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<v Speaker 2>One thing that I like to mention to people that

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<v Speaker 2>I think is something that is frequently overlooked is Silicon

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<v Speaker 2>Valley allows the state of California to exist. They pay

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<v Speaker 2>a disproportionate portion of our bills as a state. If

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<v Speaker 2>that industry, high tech and AI, were to go away,

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<v Speaker 2>our state would be in a world of hurt. And

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<v Speaker 2>it seems like there's this assumption that Silicon Valley will

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<v Speaker 2>always be in California and it will never leave the state. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>let me tell you, high tech is not something like

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<v Speaker 2>what the coal industry is to West Virginia or the

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<v Speaker 2>steel industry is to Pittsburgh. And they have to be

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<v Speaker 2>there in perpetuity because of natural resources. They can pick

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<v Speaker 2>up and move anytime they want.

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<v Speaker 1>Them to. So stop poking the bear.

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<v Speaker 4>I just, yesterday I was talking to a prominent California Vintner.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll leave his name off the show, but he was lamenting.

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<v Speaker 4>He's like all these AI people, they could just leave

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<v Speaker 4>people like us that have crops in the ground. We're

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<v Speaker 4>stuck here, but everyone else they'll just go. What do

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<v Speaker 4>you think happened when Elon Musk moved to Texas? You

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<v Speaker 4>don't see SpaceX in California. You don't see the new

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<v Speaker 4>Tesla plants opening in California. Eventually, you drive out. We're

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<v Speaker 4>kind of foreshadowing the billionaire tax issue, but you drive

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<v Speaker 4>these wealthy people out of the state. They're taking their

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<v Speaker 4>companies with them. It may take a year. It may

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<v Speaker 4>take five years, but they're going and they're taking the

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<v Speaker 4>jobs with them.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's a no on Prop 3.

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<v Speaker 2>Proposition 4 would give tax dollars to political campaigns.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a no on that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, currently there's a prohibition in the state constitution that

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<v Speaker 4>says that public money cannot be, you can't do public financing.

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<v Speaker 4>There's an exception. If you're a charter city, you can

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<v Speaker 4>do it. So like Los Angeles does it, and we

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<v Speaker 4>can get into how gross that is. But the idea

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<v Speaker 4>here is twofold. One, you shouldn't, this is not a

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<v Speaker 4>good use of taxpayer money in general, but in general,

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<v Speaker 4>you would not want your tax scholars going to support

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<v Speaker 4>the speech of people you disagree with. For example, If

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<v Speaker 4>you were a liberal Democrat, John Phillips, believe it or not,

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<v Speaker 4>could run for office and spew his venom, and you'd

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<v Speaker 4>be forced to pay for it. But maybe the more

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<v Speaker 4>extreme example would be when David Duke ran for office

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<v Speaker 4>in Louisiana, the famous former Grand Dragon of the Ku

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<v Speaker 4>Klux Klan. If he was in California running, he would

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<v Speaker 4>literally be able to say, I'm running on white supremacy,

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<v Speaker 4>and the state of California would have to write a

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<v Speaker 4>check because once you agree that a candidate should get

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<v Speaker 4>public financing... Their First Amendment rights keep the state from

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<v Speaker 4>discriminating based on anything they are saying. So watch a

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<v Speaker 4>bunch of whack jobs run on the we want to

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<v Speaker 4>blow up Israel ticket in California just to get all

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<v Speaker 4>this money and start spending it on their hate. This

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<v Speaker 4>is a hard no.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm one step ahead of you on that, John. I

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<v Speaker 2>pay for campaigns for people who hate me all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a member of a union.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, well, there you go. We'll see if we, Randy

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<v Speaker 4>and I are going to see if we can get

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<v Speaker 4>you a therapist. Isn't there some sort of paycheck protection?

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<v Speaker 4>I guess that just gets you out of their pack.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think there's one thing to add here, too,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is there is a cadre of people who

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<v Speaker 2>are gadflies who run for office every single cycle because

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<v Speaker 2>it puts their name on the ballot. It puts their

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<v Speaker 2>name in the paper. It gets them speaking invitations to

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<v Speaker 2>various groups.

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<v Speaker 4>Look for this on steroids when you get handed money.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's going to be a money-making operation.

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<v Speaker 2>They're going to be able to make a salary running

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<v Speaker 2>for office perpetually with zero viability.

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<v Speaker 4>It's going to be like that guy, Omar Navarro, right?

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<v Speaker 4>Was he running? Was it waters? He kept running against

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<v Speaker 4>who did he keep running against? But that'll be what happens.

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<v Speaker 4>And then not only will they get their money, but

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<v Speaker 4>they'll hire their friends who will kick money back to them.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's, it's all bad vote. No bad idea.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and in Los Angeles where this is in practice, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>People may not have even been aware that like the

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<v Speaker 3>incumbents get this money too. So Karen Bass is putting

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<v Speaker 3>out all these videos. Hey, send me a little money

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<v Speaker 3>because the city of LA is going to match that

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<v Speaker 3>six to one. So even though I'm not supporting Karen Bass,

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<v Speaker 3>my tax dollars are, and I don't like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Right. And then of course, what the state, the city

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<v Speaker 4>of Los Angeles did is they set up a special

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<v Speaker 4>fund for it. So then they say, well, none of

0:13:24.990 --> 0:13:27.040
<v Speaker 4>this money can go to anything else. So you may

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<v Speaker 4>as well support this. when they wrote the ballot measure

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<v Speaker 4>that put that in place in the charter in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, Prop 4, strong no.

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<v Speaker 2>Proposition 5 would weaken the right to recall elected officials.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, so this measure is placed on the ballot.

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<v Speaker 4>It was by the legislature, but it was the last

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<v Speaker 4>dying gasp of a recalled state legislator. State Senator Josh

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<v Speaker 4>Newman was the sixth California legislator a legislator or politician

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<v Speaker 4>to be successfully recalled in the history of the state.

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<v Speaker 4>This is very, very simple. They wanna change the process.

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<v Speaker 4>So right now, if somebody qualifies a recall, it goes

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<v Speaker 4>before the voters and there's question A, do you wanna

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<v Speaker 4>recall this person? Like, do you wanna recall Gray Davis, right?

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<v Speaker 4>Do you wanna recall Gavin Newsom? And then people file

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<v Speaker 4>for question two. If the recall passes, who would you

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<v Speaker 4>want to replace them? And so the people are empowered

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<v Speaker 4>on both sides of this equation. This measure is an

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<v Speaker 4>insider-backed play so that if there's a recall and it passes,

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<v Speaker 4>the politicians fill the vacancy instead of the people. It's

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<v Speaker 4>literally a way to make you not want to do

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<v Speaker 4>recalls anymore. What would be your incentive to recall, for example,

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<v Speaker 4>a crazy, corrupt politician who's in the hands of the

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<v Speaker 4>unions if you knew that if you did it, the

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<v Speaker 4>legislature that's in the hands of those same unions would

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<v Speaker 4>simply name a replacement? So it's a bad idea. I

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<v Speaker 4>encourage people to vote no.

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<v Speaker 2>And you look at various politicians who are running for

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<v Speaker 2>office right now. Susan Rubio is a perfect example, a

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<v Speaker 2>state senator in Los Angeles County who Mike Netter is

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<v Speaker 2>running against. There was a federal complaint that was a

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<v Speaker 2>public corruption complaint against various individuals. Her name was redacted,

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<v Speaker 2>but everyone, wink, wink, nod, nod, seems to be of

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<v Speaker 2>the belief that she was the politician that was named.

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<v Speaker 2>Now there's a high likelihood that she's going to win

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<v Speaker 2>reelection because it's a democratic district and she's the democratic candidate.

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<v Speaker 2>If she were to be reelected and then she gets

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<v Speaker 2>indicted by the federal government and the people, the district go, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>it's time to recall her. She would just be replaced

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<v Speaker 2>by someone who's equally owned by the unions. So there

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<v Speaker 2>are a few practical examples that you can see on

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<v Speaker 2>the horizon of where this exact scenario would apply to.

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<v Speaker 1>And all of it is bad news.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. It's just ironically that they're trying to use the

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<v Speaker 4>PR the process set up by Hiram Johnson to gut

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<v Speaker 4>the process set up by Hiram Johnson. So we'll see

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<v Speaker 4>what happens. This doesn't seem to be ahead in the polls.

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<v Speaker 4>So maybe, maybe they won't get it done. So that's

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<v Speaker 4>a no on prop five.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>Prop 37, that would borrow $ 25 billion for housing projects.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, this one is interesting and it's terrible at once.

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<v Speaker 4>The most important reason, well, first of all, what it

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<v Speaker 4>does is ostensibly it says these are revenue bonds. That

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<v Speaker 4>means they're not general obligation bonds that are paid for

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<v Speaker 4>out of the state general fund with interest and reserve.

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<v Speaker 4>In theory, what they're saying is we're going to have

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<v Speaker 4>$ 25 billion that is borrowed by loaning people money and

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<v Speaker 4>then they pay it back with when they make their

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<v Speaker 4>mortgage payment, they pay a premium back for the loan

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<v Speaker 4>they got to cover If your down payment is 20%,

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<v Speaker 4>this would cover almost all of it. I'm not a mathematician,

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<v Speaker 4>but 17% of the 20% that you put down would

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<v Speaker 4>be covered by the taxpayer in this. And then where

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<v Speaker 4>the liability of the public is, is if somebody, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know, defaults on the loan, right? Then the public's

0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:12.380
<v Speaker 4>at the end is stuck for it. But the real

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<v Speaker 4>issue here, again, once again, is that the problem that

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<v Speaker 4>we have in California is, is a housing shortage. This

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<v Speaker 4>does not solve the housing shortage. This just increases the scramble.

0:17:22.460 --> 0:17:24.359
<v Speaker 4>You're bidding for a house and somebody just says, I

0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:25.840
<v Speaker 4>don't want you. I want the guy that's got the

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<v Speaker 4>government backing. And so you're out unless you hit the

0:17:28.700 --> 0:17:31.400
<v Speaker 4>narrow band of people that this applies to. And then,

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<v Speaker 4>of course, who's the big sponsor of this? It's like

0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:37.020
<v Speaker 4>the realtors and another who's who of everyone who makes

0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:41.030
<v Speaker 4>money in the bond lending process. So this is a

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<v Speaker 4>hard no, terrible idea.

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<v Speaker 1>It's something to just keep the state out of.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw an interview recently with Warren Buffett, and he

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<v Speaker 2>said the banks want to loan money. People act like

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<v Speaker 2>the banks don't want to loan money. The banks want

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<v Speaker 2>to loan money because the money does nothing for them

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<v Speaker 2>if they sit on it. It's just they need to

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<v Speaker 2>find people who are good for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the issue. The whole concept here is they

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<v Speaker 4>want to provide this money for people that couldn't get

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<v Speaker 4>a loan, which by definition means they're all bad risks

0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:13.530
<v Speaker 4>for going belly up on their mortgages. And then the

0:18:13.570 --> 0:18:17.160
<v Speaker 4>taxpayers get hit for the balance. So it's a bad idea.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. Proposition 38, you're also a no on.

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<v Speaker 2>That's public-private partner bonds for immunology research.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, this one's another one where you got corruption all

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<v Speaker 4>over it. It sounds like a great cause. And by

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<v Speaker 4>the way, I myself am a cancer survivor and benefited

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<v Speaker 4>from research in the cancer field. But this is no

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<v Speaker 4>way to fund cancer research. One wealthy billionaire said, decided

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<v Speaker 4>to pay for all the signature gathering for a ballot

0:18:44.810 --> 0:18:47.909
<v Speaker 4>measure that he and his attorneys wrote. And literally half

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<v Speaker 4>of all of this, these billions of dollars would go

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<v Speaker 4>straight to his favorite charity because, you know, they do

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<v Speaker 4>that bit where they define it in the law so

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<v Speaker 4>narrowly that only one charity would apply. And again, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the amount of money that you'd have to pay in

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<v Speaker 4>this case, you know, 500 to $ 600 million annually would

0:19:07.500 --> 0:19:09.580
<v Speaker 4>have to go to pay back this bond. This is

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<v Speaker 4>no way to fund research, but you know, It's ahead

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<v Speaker 4>in the polls right now because everyone thinks it's a

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<v Speaker 4>great idea. Nobody really understands the cumulative effect of the

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<v Speaker 4>borrowing and what happens when you start to, you know,

0:19:20.940 --> 0:19:24.040
<v Speaker 4>this literally takes half a billion dollars, half a million dollars,

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<v Speaker 4>half a billion dollars a year right out of the

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<v Speaker 4>general fund that is now no longer available for anything,

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<v Speaker 4>including tax relief.

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<v Speaker 2>And no one wants to hear this, but if you

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<v Speaker 2>really want to help cancer research move forward, allow the

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<v Speaker 2>data centers to pop up. do what you can do

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<v Speaker 2>to help, because AI is gonna solve a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>those problems. I mean, you read where cancer research is going,

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<v Speaker 2>and AI, I mean, my dad had brain cancer and

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<v Speaker 2>unfortunately he was just a little bit too early because it,

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<v Speaker 2>it started out as a size of a speck of sand,

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<v Speaker 2>the cancer and the tools that they had for radiologists

0:20:05.790 --> 0:20:08.919
<v Speaker 2>to look at couldn't see the cancer when it was

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<v Speaker 2>in its very early stages. But the AI that now

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<v Speaker 2>exists would have allowed them to spot that cancer when

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<v Speaker 2>it was the size of a speck of sand. And

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<v Speaker 2>you take those principles and you apply it across the

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<v Speaker 2>board to various cancers, and the ability to fight cancer

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<v Speaker 2>from the medical community is going to be helped.

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<v Speaker 1>By leaps and bounds, by AI, if we don't strangle them.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, and I would add, by the way, that the

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<v Speaker 4>guy who's funding this measure is capable of giving billions

0:20:37.119 --> 0:20:39.200
<v Speaker 4>of dollars to that charity if he wants to, right?

0:20:39.300 --> 0:20:41.520
<v Speaker 4>But instead, it's the typical deal. Well, I'll just put

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<v Speaker 4>this on the ballot, and we'll get the taxpayers to

0:20:44.580 --> 0:20:48.110
<v Speaker 4>pay my favorite charity. So, hard no.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, so far we're a no on everything from

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<v Speaker 2>1 through 38.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we're finally approaching a yes.

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<v Speaker 2>And that is Proposition 39, which is the California Voter

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<v Speaker 2>ID Initiative.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so plainly put, this measure would require that somebody

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<v Speaker 4>show some sort of ID in order to vote, a

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<v Speaker 4>government-issued ID at the polling place to vote, or if

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<v Speaker 4>they're voting by mail, they would have to put the

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<v Speaker 4>last X number of digits of their valid government ID

0:21:18.390 --> 0:21:21.550
<v Speaker 4>right onto their ballot, and it would also audit the

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<v Speaker 4>books and clear out of all of the county voter

0:21:26.820 --> 0:21:29.939
<v Speaker 4>registration rules people that shouldn't be there anymore. It would

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<v Speaker 4>be a hard reset, and what it would do is

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<v Speaker 4>it would give confidence back to everyone that the voting

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<v Speaker 4>system in California is fair. It doesn't get rid of

0:21:38.530 --> 0:21:41.869
<v Speaker 4>mail-in ballot voting, but it certainly secures the process a

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<v Speaker 4>lot more than it is now. And so this is

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<v Speaker 4>something that I think everybody should be voting for. It's

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<v Speaker 4>common sense. And then the one thing you can look

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<v Speaker 4>for here, it's currently down a bit in the polls,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's because the strategy that's being used to oppose

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<v Speaker 4>this measure is the same one that was used for

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<v Speaker 4>Prop 50 last year, which is the president has been

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<v Speaker 4>such a high-profile supporter of voter ID that Democrats in

0:22:06.080 --> 0:22:08.880
<v Speaker 4>a very strong percentage are currently voting against this because

0:22:08.900 --> 0:22:13.359
<v Speaker 4>they view it as a Donald Trump measure. So the

0:22:13.400 --> 0:22:16.020
<v Speaker 4>campaign for Yes, which has raised millions of dollars and

0:22:16.040 --> 0:22:18.140
<v Speaker 4>will have TV spots and all that, so they just

0:22:18.160 --> 0:22:20.980
<v Speaker 4>did a seven, I think a $ 7 million media buy,

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<v Speaker 4>their entire campaign is showing Democrats saying, hey, you know what,

0:22:25.890 --> 0:22:28.590
<v Speaker 4>I don't like Donald Trump, but I support this, right?

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<v Speaker 4>They have to... In order to pass this, there's got

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<v Speaker 4>to be a permission structure for not only people that

0:22:33.480 --> 0:22:36.840
<v Speaker 4>are Republican to vote for this, but independents and Democrats

0:22:36.900 --> 0:22:40.280
<v Speaker 4>as well. So it's really important, and people should get

0:22:40.320 --> 0:22:41.400
<v Speaker 4>out and vote yes for this.

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<v Speaker 2>Shirley Weber, the Secretary of State, recently did an interview

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<v Speaker 2>with a television station in Sacramento. I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>with Ashley Zavala, in fact.

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<v Speaker 4>KCRA, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Where she said that this would prohibit voting by mail.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 4>That's just a lie.

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<v Speaker 2>If you read the initiative, what you said is correct.

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<v Speaker 2>You put the last four digits of your social on

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<v Speaker 2>there and they verify it and you're fine. We just

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<v Speaker 2>want to make sure the correct person is filling out

0:23:06.460 --> 0:23:09.680
<v Speaker 2>the ballot. But she said the exact opposite of that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then she doubled and tripled down.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, this is how it works. So I'm voting

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<v Speaker 4>for Don Wagner for secretary of state because I think

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<v Speaker 4>he's a common sense guy. But You know, it's really

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<v Speaker 4>hard with these partisan offices in California. There are millions

0:23:23.710 --> 0:23:27.070
<v Speaker 4>of more Democrats than Republicans in California, which is why

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<v Speaker 4>I think there's this strategy now. The focus of the

0:23:29.850 --> 0:23:34.429
<v Speaker 4>voter ID campaign is on basically swing Democrats and independent voters,

0:23:34.910 --> 0:23:38.310
<v Speaker 4>reminding them that voter ID, you know, if you have

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<v Speaker 4>to have an ID to buy alcohol, buy a gun,

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<v Speaker 4>all the, you know, heck, you have to have a

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<v Speaker 4>photo ID to show your Sizzler Senior Club membership when

0:23:46.700 --> 0:23:49.210
<v Speaker 4>you want to go get a discount, right? You ought

0:23:49.230 --> 0:23:50.609
<v Speaker 4>to have to show some ID when you vote.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and also, whenever Democrats lose an election, they always

0:23:55.330 --> 0:23:58.520
<v Speaker 2>say it was rigged. Katie Porter famously did that here

0:23:58.560 --> 0:24:01.060
<v Speaker 2>in California when she ran for the U.S. Senate against

0:24:01.170 --> 0:24:04.680
<v Speaker 2>Adam Schiff. We know that Jasmine Crockett did the same

0:24:04.760 --> 0:24:08.199
<v Speaker 2>thing in her Democratic primary in Texas. We have the

0:24:08.260 --> 0:24:10.720
<v Speaker 2>guy who's playing the Hulk who's now running around the

0:24:10.760 --> 0:24:14.359
<v Speaker 2>country saying that Elon Musk is going to steal the election. Okay.

0:24:15.060 --> 0:24:15.379
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>If you believe that elections that you lose are stolen,

0:24:18.940 --> 0:24:22.160
<v Speaker 2>which is what many of them say, then why not

0:24:22.220 --> 0:24:25.800
<v Speaker 2>put some guardrails on the election? Why not make sure

0:24:25.859 --> 0:24:28.530
<v Speaker 2>that the correct people are filling out the correct ballots?

0:24:28.720 --> 0:24:29.830
<v Speaker 1>They never want to do that.

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<v Speaker 4>There's literally no downside to this unless you're trying to cheat.

0:24:34.250 --> 0:24:37.730
<v Speaker 4>Then you'd have a significant downside to this. But otherwise, okay,

0:24:37.750 --> 0:24:39.850
<v Speaker 4>so you've added another safeguard. What's the big deal? Like

0:24:39.869 --> 0:24:41.850
<v Speaker 4>you said. All you have to do is put in

0:24:41.869 --> 0:24:44.449
<v Speaker 4>your Social Security number. But if you wanted people voting that,

0:24:44.470 --> 0:24:47.430
<v Speaker 4>for example, weren't legal residents, this would be a problem.

0:24:48.570 --> 0:24:51.729
<v Speaker 2>Well, and there's also the law of unintended consequences because

0:24:52.270 --> 0:24:57.070
<v Speaker 2>Democrats seem to be in this bubble where they think

0:24:57.150 --> 0:25:00.030
<v Speaker 2>that Republicans are the only ones that can beat them,

0:25:00.250 --> 0:25:03.230
<v Speaker 2>so let's vote against anything that would benefit a Republican.

0:25:03.900 --> 0:25:06.600
<v Speaker 1>Okay, if there's no guardrails, guess what?

0:25:07.119 --> 0:25:09.359
<v Speaker 2>The DSA is going to take advantage of that to

0:25:09.400 --> 0:25:12.139
<v Speaker 2>beat Democrats, as we've seen happen up and down the

0:25:12.180 --> 0:25:15.830
<v Speaker 2>state in various offices, including the L.A.

0:25:15.869 --> 0:25:16.530
<v Speaker 1>Mayor's race.

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<v Speaker 2>If I'm a Democrat right now, I'm not even thinking

0:25:19.430 --> 0:25:22.770
<v Speaker 2>about losing to a Republican. I'm thinking about the DSA

0:25:22.830 --> 0:25:26.690
<v Speaker 2>coming in, whose organizational skills are arguably even stronger than

0:25:26.710 --> 0:25:28.890
<v Speaker 2>the unions, and wiping me out.

0:25:29.869 --> 0:25:32.290
<v Speaker 4>Well, they don't really think that way. Gavin Newsom just

0:25:32.350 --> 0:25:34.560
<v Speaker 4>announced that he's going to make fighting this measure, his

0:25:34.619 --> 0:25:37.619
<v Speaker 4>number one California priority for the next few weeks. So

0:25:38.340 --> 0:25:41.300
<v Speaker 4>there you go. So vote no, excuse me, vote yes

0:25:42.060 --> 0:25:44.060
<v Speaker 4>on voter ID, and then tell people that you know

0:25:44.100 --> 0:25:46.879
<v Speaker 4>this is not a Republican or Democrat. Tell people that

0:25:46.900 --> 0:25:49.600
<v Speaker 4>you know that this is for fair elections. Anybody can

0:25:49.640 --> 0:25:50.740
<v Speaker 4>win in a fair election.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so that's a yes on 39. That's the first

0:25:54.619 --> 0:25:58.449
<v Speaker 2>yes on the ballot. Proposition 40, you're a hard no on.

0:25:58.490 --> 0:26:00.550
<v Speaker 2>That's the billionaire wealth confiscation tax.

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<v Speaker 3>It is.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll try to cover this in short order. So the

0:26:04.160 --> 0:26:06.510
<v Speaker 4>two most important things for people to understand is what

0:26:06.550 --> 0:26:09.290
<v Speaker 4>it is and why you need to vote no. And

0:26:09.310 --> 0:26:11.590
<v Speaker 4>the what it is is we've never had this before.

0:26:11.990 --> 0:26:13.889
<v Speaker 4>If this passes, they'd have to open up like a

0:26:13.950 --> 0:26:17.390
<v Speaker 4>California Department of Wealth taking, right? Because there's currently no

0:26:17.470 --> 0:26:20.340
<v Speaker 4>system in place for the state of California to go in,

0:26:20.880 --> 0:26:23.659
<v Speaker 4>audit somebody's finances, what they're worth, and then go in

0:26:23.859 --> 0:26:28.200
<v Speaker 4>and perform a taking. And it's significant that everybody understand

0:26:28.220 --> 0:26:31.620
<v Speaker 4>this next part because it's kind of complicated. Buried deep

0:26:31.760 --> 0:26:34.699
<v Speaker 4>in this measure is a clause that says that the

0:26:34.740 --> 0:26:39.460
<v Speaker 4>California legislature can pass another wealth tax on anyone they want,

0:26:39.800 --> 0:26:43.119
<v Speaker 4>any criteria they want, with a two-thirds vote of the legislature,

0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:45.720
<v Speaker 4>and they never have to go back to the public

0:26:45.740 --> 0:26:48.359
<v Speaker 4>for a vote. So we call this the everyone tax

0:26:48.440 --> 0:26:51.980
<v Speaker 4>because it literally, they want to change the way California

0:26:52.119 --> 0:26:54.530
<v Speaker 4>can consume and get money. So for example, if they

0:26:54.570 --> 0:26:59.220
<v Speaker 4>decide arbitrarily anybody whose house is is worth more than

0:26:59.240 --> 0:27:01.280
<v Speaker 4>a million dollars, has enough to give to the state,

0:27:01.780 --> 0:27:05.020
<v Speaker 4>they can just do a $ 50, 000 wealth taking, a 5%

0:27:05.020 --> 0:27:07.040
<v Speaker 4>wealth taking on every home. And oh, by the way,

0:27:07.480 --> 0:27:10.119
<v Speaker 4>if you don't have $ 50, 000 cash, you may have to

0:27:10.200 --> 0:27:12.689
<v Speaker 4>sell your home to pay the tax. And they can

0:27:12.750 --> 0:27:16.110
<v Speaker 4>impose that without ever having to come back to the people.

0:27:16.150 --> 0:27:19.510
<v Speaker 4>There's a million other reasons. The billionaires, we talked about

0:27:19.530 --> 0:27:22.610
<v Speaker 4>it earlier on the program. Billionaires leaving California take their

0:27:22.650 --> 0:27:25.890
<v Speaker 4>companies and their jobs with them. Billionaires who have massive

0:27:25.930 --> 0:27:28.879
<v Speaker 4>amounts of capital gains. Guess what? Those capital gains taxes

0:27:28.920 --> 0:27:32.060
<v Speaker 4>are only paid when you sell your profits. So someone

0:27:32.080 --> 0:27:34.820
<v Speaker 4>who has spent decades building up worth and then they

0:27:34.859 --> 0:27:38.190
<v Speaker 4>move to Texas and then they sell, California gets none

0:27:38.210 --> 0:27:39.670
<v Speaker 4>of that. As a matter of fact, there's a study

0:27:39.730 --> 0:27:42.190
<v Speaker 4>out of the Hoover Institution that says that the net

0:27:42.230 --> 0:27:46.090
<v Speaker 4>effect of passing this billionaire tax would be a loss

0:27:46.290 --> 0:27:49.250
<v Speaker 4>of $ 25 billion to the state of California. So this

0:27:49.310 --> 0:27:53.120
<v Speaker 4>is a dumb idea. It's half-baked and it's really been

0:27:53.170 --> 0:27:56.560
<v Speaker 4>put on the ballot by one Public Employee Union, which

0:27:56.600 --> 0:27:58.320
<v Speaker 4>I'd love to spend a minute talking about. This is

0:27:58.359 --> 0:28:03.419
<v Speaker 4>the Healthcare Workers West Union. It's a subset of the SEIU,

0:28:03.820 --> 0:28:06.190
<v Speaker 4>and they're in the middle of their own mess right now,

0:28:06.250 --> 0:28:08.210
<v Speaker 4>which is a bit much to go into on the show.

0:28:08.330 --> 0:28:11.830
<v Speaker 4>But right now, this measure is not currently enjoying the

0:28:11.869 --> 0:28:14.750
<v Speaker 4>majority support that it needs to pass. And we will

0:28:14.790 --> 0:28:18.080
<v Speaker 4>see more money spent against this ballot measure in the

0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:20.500
<v Speaker 4>next four weeks than we have seen against anything, because

0:28:20.540 --> 0:28:23.429
<v Speaker 4>of course, Billionaires have no problems writing big checks. They

0:28:23.450 --> 0:28:26.100
<v Speaker 4>don't want this taking, but we all benefit from this

0:28:26.140 --> 0:28:26.640
<v Speaker 4>going down.

0:28:27.680 --> 0:28:30.060
<v Speaker 2>It's important to note that it is key to kill

0:28:30.100 --> 0:28:35.300
<v Speaker 2>this idea, this bad idea here, because they're already polling

0:28:35.540 --> 0:28:37.340
<v Speaker 2>as to whether or not they could sell it to

0:28:37.359 --> 0:28:40.770
<v Speaker 2>the public to do this as a quote-unquote millionaire's tax.

0:28:41.590 --> 0:28:44.610
<v Speaker 2>And what you said before is correct in that anyone

0:28:44.630 --> 0:28:47.030
<v Speaker 2>who owns a home in Van Nuys is technically a

0:28:47.070 --> 0:28:49.130
<v Speaker 2>millionaire on paper, Randy.

0:28:49.630 --> 0:28:53.830
<v Speaker 3>Hey, that's me! Don't tax my beater in the valley!

0:28:55.170 --> 0:28:58.900
<v Speaker 2>The other thing is that because they cut everyone out

0:28:58.920 --> 0:29:01.560
<v Speaker 2>of the deal, because they cut the teachers out of

0:29:01.580 --> 0:29:03.940
<v Speaker 2>the deal, and they cut public safety out of the deal,

0:29:04.620 --> 0:29:08.219
<v Speaker 2>and the anger is resulting in those unions coming out

0:29:08.280 --> 0:29:11.130
<v Speaker 2>against this, I think you could see a sense of,

0:29:11.340 --> 0:29:14.560
<v Speaker 2>if you can't beat them, join them. So if this passes,

0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:17.310
<v Speaker 2>what you could see on the next ballots is some

0:29:17.410 --> 0:29:20.430
<v Speaker 2>similar version of this that then goes to the CTA

0:29:20.770 --> 0:29:23.560
<v Speaker 2>and cuts everyone out of the deal. And then another

0:29:23.620 --> 0:29:26.600
<v Speaker 2>version that goes to firefighters and cuts everyone out of

0:29:26.620 --> 0:29:30.260
<v Speaker 2>the deal. And suddenly we're off to the races with

0:29:30.300 --> 0:29:32.680
<v Speaker 2>this being a concept that is sellable to the people

0:29:32.720 --> 0:29:35.750
<v Speaker 2>of California if you find the right cause and there's

0:29:35.810 --> 0:29:36.690
<v Speaker 2>no end in sight.

0:29:37.610 --> 0:29:39.890
<v Speaker 4>It's a terrible measure and I think it's the most

0:29:39.970 --> 0:29:43.330
<v Speaker 4>significant single measure on the ballot because of what you said, John,

0:29:43.430 --> 0:29:45.790
<v Speaker 4>even though there's voter ID on the ballot, which is significant.

0:29:46.230 --> 0:29:50.330
<v Speaker 4>This one fundamentally changes the way that government, the concept

0:29:50.370 --> 0:29:53.330
<v Speaker 4>has always been whether we like it or not, that

0:29:53.490 --> 0:29:55.690
<v Speaker 4>as you earn money, the government can take a piece

0:29:55.730 --> 0:29:58.760
<v Speaker 4>of it through an income tax. This changes everything. It

0:29:58.820 --> 0:30:01.740
<v Speaker 4>basically says, What you've already earned, what you already have,

0:30:01.760 --> 0:30:04.120
<v Speaker 4>that nest egg that you have saved for your retirement,

0:30:04.140 --> 0:30:07.440
<v Speaker 4>they can come just take it. And it's terrible, terrible

0:30:07.480 --> 0:30:11.850
<v Speaker 4>public policy. So it's a hard no on Prop 40.

0:30:11.850 --> 0:30:12.190
<v Speaker 4>All right.

0:30:12.350 --> 0:30:14.950
<v Speaker 2>Prop 41, that would audit special taxes.

0:30:15.730 --> 0:30:17.270
<v Speaker 4>Well, if it's all right with you, why don't we

0:30:17.310 --> 0:30:20.070
<v Speaker 4>take Prop 41 and then we've got, why don't you

0:30:20.110 --> 0:30:22.050
<v Speaker 4>read the title for Prop 42? Because I'm going to

0:30:22.090 --> 0:30:22.990
<v Speaker 4>cover them both together.

0:30:23.430 --> 0:30:24.690
<v Speaker 1>That stops savings tax.

0:30:25.630 --> 0:30:27.820
<v Speaker 4>Okay, so here's the real deal. I'm going to cut

0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:30.280
<v Speaker 4>to the chase for people watching the show. These ballot

0:30:30.320 --> 0:30:34.060
<v Speaker 4>measures do some significant and important things that are pro-taxpayer,

0:30:34.620 --> 0:30:36.960
<v Speaker 4>but the most significant thing is that they both have

0:30:37.620 --> 0:30:40.140
<v Speaker 4>poison pills in them. There's language in both of these

0:30:40.590 --> 0:30:45.390
<v Speaker 4>measures that if these measures pass and the billionaire tax

0:30:45.470 --> 0:30:50.430
<v Speaker 4>passes would kill the billionaire tax. In the California state constitution,

0:30:50.450 --> 0:30:52.650
<v Speaker 4>there's a provision that says that if two measures are

0:30:52.690 --> 0:30:54.969
<v Speaker 4>on the ballot at the same time, but they have

0:30:55.040 --> 0:30:58.500
<v Speaker 4>conflicting provisions in even part of it. The one that

0:30:58.520 --> 0:31:01.440
<v Speaker 4>gets the most votes gets enacted, and the one that

0:31:01.460 --> 0:31:04.100
<v Speaker 4>gets fewer votes does not, even if technically both of

0:31:04.120 --> 0:31:07.160
<v Speaker 4>them got over 50% of the vote. Currently, right now,

0:31:07.270 --> 0:31:13.110
<v Speaker 4>Propositions 41 and 42 are polling higher than the yes

0:31:13.170 --> 0:31:18.170
<v Speaker 4>vote on Prop 40. Sergey Brin, one of the billionaires

0:31:18.230 --> 0:31:20.580
<v Speaker 4>who's heavily impacted, spent a lot of money to put

0:31:20.620 --> 0:31:23.240
<v Speaker 4>these two measures on the ballot. And in and of themselves,

0:31:23.380 --> 0:31:26.420
<v Speaker 4>they do great things. But the most important thing to

0:31:26.460 --> 0:31:28.870
<v Speaker 4>remember is if you oppose the billionaire tax, make sure

0:31:28.890 --> 0:31:31.690
<v Speaker 4>you're voting yes on 41 and 42. It's like the

0:31:31.750 --> 0:31:35.650
<v Speaker 4>insurance policy coverage. It's another way to make sure that

0:31:35.690 --> 0:31:37.130
<v Speaker 4>the wealth-taking does not happen.

0:31:37.670 --> 0:31:39.880
<v Speaker 1>It's the only insurance we can buy in California.

0:31:41.880 --> 0:31:42.560
<v Speaker 4>Ba-dum-bum-ch.

0:31:43.470 --> 0:31:47.190
<v Speaker 2>All right, Proposition 43. This is a key initiative on

0:31:47.210 --> 0:31:50.209
<v Speaker 2>the ballot. This is the Save Prop 13 Act that

0:31:50.230 --> 0:31:52.570
<v Speaker 2>would strengthen local taxpayer protections.

0:31:53.190 --> 0:31:56.110
<v Speaker 4>Right, this measure placed, it was a, we won't go

0:31:56.130 --> 0:31:57.670
<v Speaker 4>into all of it here, but it was placed on

0:31:57.690 --> 0:32:01.260
<v Speaker 4>the ballot through signature gathering by the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association.

0:32:01.630 --> 0:32:04.140
<v Speaker 4>Then some modifications took place in a deal with the

0:32:04.180 --> 0:32:08.660
<v Speaker 4>legislature that narrowed the scope of it, but strengthened the

0:32:08.680 --> 0:32:10.840
<v Speaker 4>part that was left. And so what this measure does

0:32:11.560 --> 0:32:14.830
<v Speaker 4>is it says that all tax increases at the local

0:32:14.870 --> 0:32:17.690
<v Speaker 4>level should require a two-thirds vote. And for those of

0:32:17.990 --> 0:32:20.350
<v Speaker 4>you who think that because of Prop 13, it already

0:32:20.390 --> 0:32:24.930
<v Speaker 4>does that, the court system in California, populated by decades

0:32:24.970 --> 0:32:29.850
<v Speaker 4>of Democrat appointments, passed a ruling that, to make a

0:32:29.870 --> 0:32:33.870
<v Speaker 4>long story short, says that if signatures are gathered at

0:32:33.890 --> 0:32:35.950
<v Speaker 4>a local government level, so for a county or a

0:32:35.990 --> 0:32:39.370
<v Speaker 4>city or a special district, if signatures are gathered to

0:32:39.410 --> 0:32:42.400
<v Speaker 4>place a special tax on the ballot, Well, you can

0:32:42.440 --> 0:32:44.970
<v Speaker 4>pass that with a majority vote. But as we talked

0:32:45.010 --> 0:32:48.550
<v Speaker 4>about earlier in the preamble to this discussion, the signature

0:32:48.570 --> 0:32:51.790
<v Speaker 4>gathering process has been taken over by the special interests.

0:32:51.890 --> 0:32:54.690
<v Speaker 4>So what will happen is, for example, right now we're

0:32:54.710 --> 0:32:57.210
<v Speaker 4>seeing this up and down the state where local public

0:32:57.250 --> 0:33:00.510
<v Speaker 4>employee unions, especially in the public safety space, are out

0:33:00.550 --> 0:33:03.560
<v Speaker 4>there putting sales taxes on the ballot because local governments

0:33:03.880 --> 0:33:07.260
<v Speaker 4>did a bunch of hiring with one-time COVID money, permanent

0:33:07.280 --> 0:33:09.920
<v Speaker 4>hiring with one-time money. Randy, is that a good idea?

0:33:10.460 --> 0:33:11.690
<v Speaker 1>No, it's not. Yeah.

0:33:11.830 --> 0:33:15.130
<v Speaker 4>So what's happening now is these cities are having huge

0:33:15.190 --> 0:33:17.840
<v Speaker 4>financial problems. And so the unions are like, oh, no problem.

0:33:18.180 --> 0:33:20.480
<v Speaker 4>We'll put a measure on the ballot through signatures. It

0:33:20.520 --> 0:33:22.480
<v Speaker 4>only takes a majority vote and we'll call it the

0:33:22.860 --> 0:33:24.460
<v Speaker 4>you don't want to not have police measure.

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:25.420
<v Speaker 1>Right.

0:33:25.580 --> 0:33:29.380
<v Speaker 4>And so what this does is it closes the loophole

0:33:29.460 --> 0:33:32.210
<v Speaker 4>and it says going forward, of course, you could still

0:33:32.250 --> 0:33:35.490
<v Speaker 4>have tax increases. This doesn't speak for or against whether

0:33:35.530 --> 0:33:38.050
<v Speaker 4>or not it's a good idea to pass a particular tax.

0:33:38.630 --> 0:33:41.150
<v Speaker 4>but it locks into place that it takes a two-thirds

0:33:41.210 --> 0:33:44.560
<v Speaker 4>vote to do it. And so this is a hard yes.

0:33:45.100 --> 0:33:47.660
<v Speaker 4>This is an important one for people that care about

0:33:47.720 --> 0:33:53.320
<v Speaker 4>the looming crisis of county and city governments growing. And

0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:55.900
<v Speaker 4>if you look, by the way, nationally, the largest level

0:33:55.940 --> 0:33:58.400
<v Speaker 4>of growth that is happening in government in the entire

0:33:58.440 --> 0:34:03.160
<v Speaker 4>country is all happening at the local level. So this

0:34:03.200 --> 0:34:04.500
<v Speaker 4>goes straight to that battle.

0:34:05.330 --> 0:34:08.450
<v Speaker 2>And I would I would also suggest that it's important

0:34:08.510 --> 0:34:12.670
<v Speaker 2>because it lets the legislature know that there's still some

0:34:12.750 --> 0:34:16.879
<v Speaker 2>teeth out there among the electorate for you can go

0:34:16.950 --> 0:34:20.420
<v Speaker 2>too far on taxes and we can snap back. And

0:34:20.480 --> 0:34:23.340
<v Speaker 2>maybe we snap back with a ballot initiative. Maybe at

0:34:23.380 --> 0:34:26.080
<v Speaker 2>some point we snap back by voting you out of office.

0:34:26.460 --> 0:34:29.200
<v Speaker 2>But it puts the idea in their head that they

0:34:29.219 --> 0:34:32.100
<v Speaker 2>don't have a complete green light to move forward with

0:34:32.140 --> 0:34:37.219
<v Speaker 2>tax increases without the risk of the taxpayers lashing out.

0:34:39.739 --> 0:34:39.919
<v Speaker 1>Yep.

0:34:40.300 --> 0:34:42.819
<v Speaker 4>Vote no or vote yes. I'm sorry, vote yes.

0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:44.760
<v Speaker 3>You're so used to saying vote no.

0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:47.280
<v Speaker 4>I know. That one's a yes. That one's a yes.

0:34:48.120 --> 0:34:48.460
<v Speaker 1>All right.

0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:52.120
<v Speaker 2>Proposition 44, that's costly mandates on community health clinics.

0:34:52.660 --> 0:34:52.819
<v Speaker 1>Right.

0:34:52.860 --> 0:34:54.959
<v Speaker 4>Well, so we talked about this. This keeps coming back

0:34:55.000 --> 0:34:56.779
<v Speaker 4>to the ballot over and over again. So I'm going

0:34:56.800 --> 0:34:58.980
<v Speaker 4>to take one minute and explain to you why it

0:34:59.020 --> 0:35:01.440
<v Speaker 4>keeps coming back. So there's this same union that put

0:35:01.460 --> 0:35:06.060
<v Speaker 4>the billionaire tax on the ballot, the SEIU United Healthcare Workers.

0:35:06.550 --> 0:35:09.900
<v Speaker 4>They're upset because dialysis centers all up and down the

0:35:09.920 --> 0:35:12.339
<v Speaker 4>state are not unionized. And so their workers are not

0:35:12.420 --> 0:35:14.719
<v Speaker 4>in them. And they keep putting these measures on the

0:35:14.780 --> 0:35:17.960
<v Speaker 4>ballot to try to force the dialysis center owners to

0:35:17.980 --> 0:35:20.920
<v Speaker 4>the table who they keep not coming to the table.

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<v Speaker 4>So this particular measure is very draconian towards anybody who

0:35:25.700 --> 0:35:29.740
<v Speaker 4>owns a dialysis clinic. It basically says that like 90%

0:35:29.739 --> 0:35:32.050
<v Speaker 4>of the money that you have must be spent on

0:35:32.090 --> 0:35:35.110
<v Speaker 4>your employees. And of course, if anybody owns a business,

0:35:35.430 --> 0:35:37.190
<v Speaker 4>How do you own a business if 90, you know,

0:35:37.610 --> 0:35:40.270
<v Speaker 4>these dialysis centers have to pay rent. They own their buildings.

0:35:40.290 --> 0:35:43.070
<v Speaker 4>They have to buy insurance. They have to buy the

0:35:43.110 --> 0:35:47.980
<v Speaker 4>dialysis equipment. It basically makes it so these guys can't operate.

0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:50.279
<v Speaker 4>They put it on the ballot to try to enter

0:35:50.320 --> 0:35:53.660
<v Speaker 4>into a negotiation because that's another weird thing we have

0:35:53.700 --> 0:35:56.520
<v Speaker 4>in California now is that once something qualifies for the ballot,

0:35:56.880 --> 0:35:58.660
<v Speaker 4>you could do a deal with the legislature and take

0:35:58.700 --> 0:36:02.810
<v Speaker 4>it off. And the dialysis center owners refused to do

0:36:02.830 --> 0:36:05.590
<v Speaker 4>a deal. So then these guys were like, screw it. Fine,

0:36:05.610 --> 0:36:07.160
<v Speaker 4>we'll leave it on the ballot. Good luck with this.

0:36:07.860 --> 0:36:10.299
<v Speaker 4>So it's on the ballot. I do not expect it

0:36:10.340 --> 0:36:12.920
<v Speaker 4>to pass, but it's a bad, bad idea. And you

0:36:12.940 --> 0:36:15.800
<v Speaker 4>know who the victim is here? People that need kidney dialysis.

0:36:16.260 --> 0:36:18.510
<v Speaker 4>Because should this pass, you're going to see a massive

0:36:18.570 --> 0:36:21.890
<v Speaker 4>disappearing of kidney dialysis centers around the state of California.

0:36:22.410 --> 0:36:24.110
<v Speaker 3>It's another damn kidney bill.

0:36:24.630 --> 0:36:27.370
<v Speaker 4>It's another damn kidney bill. Vote no. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and then those people, their health is a mess.

0:36:30.430 --> 0:36:32.310
<v Speaker 2>And they go to these centers all the time for

0:36:32.330 --> 0:36:34.649
<v Speaker 2>their dialysis. It's not like you can do it every

0:36:34.710 --> 0:36:37.430
<v Speaker 2>other month. You have to go all the time. And

0:36:37.730 --> 0:36:40.529
<v Speaker 2>from what I understand, from people I've talked to who

0:36:40.610 --> 0:36:43.110
<v Speaker 2>work in that world, what you would see is you

0:36:43.130 --> 0:36:44.850
<v Speaker 2>would see all the rural.

0:36:44.590 --> 0:36:45.590
<v Speaker 1>Clinics shut down.

0:36:45.610 --> 0:36:48.069
<v Speaker 2>So if you live in Barstow, you're going to have

0:36:48.090 --> 0:36:50.520
<v Speaker 2>to drive to San Bernardino three times a week or

0:36:50.560 --> 0:36:52.720
<v Speaker 2>however often they have to go. If you live in Needles,

0:36:53.060 --> 0:36:56.060
<v Speaker 2>you'll have to drive to Riverside. And you're just going

0:36:56.080 --> 0:36:57.860
<v Speaker 2>to make life miserable for those people.

0:36:58.670 --> 0:36:58.850
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So we recommend a hard no.

0:37:01.730 --> 0:37:05.959
<v Speaker 2>Proposition 45 would reduce housing costs by reducing red tape.

0:37:05.980 --> 0:37:06.899
<v Speaker 1>You're a yes on that.

0:37:07.500 --> 0:37:09.300
<v Speaker 4>I'm a yes on this. If I had any problem

0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:11.779
<v Speaker 4>with this, it doesn't go far enough, but it goes

0:37:11.820 --> 0:37:14.810
<v Speaker 4>in the right direction. So this is a measure for

0:37:14.830 --> 0:37:16.390
<v Speaker 4>those of you who are not familiar with it. It

0:37:16.730 --> 0:37:18.730
<v Speaker 4>means you haven't been listening to enough of this program,

0:37:18.770 --> 0:37:22.780
<v Speaker 4>but we have what's called the California Environmental Quality Act. uh,

0:37:22.940 --> 0:37:26.100
<v Speaker 4>ironically originally signed into law by then governor Ronald Reagan.

0:37:26.120 --> 0:37:27.859
<v Speaker 4>But of course, what he signed into law was like

0:37:27.900 --> 0:37:30.600
<v Speaker 4>a one sheet of paper. This has been now taken

0:37:30.700 --> 0:37:34.820
<v Speaker 4>over by the environmental whack job community. And it allows

0:37:35.180 --> 0:37:37.890
<v Speaker 4>people to challenge every kind of construction in the state

0:37:37.989 --> 0:37:39.790
<v Speaker 4>and put in a huge amount of red tape and

0:37:39.850 --> 0:37:42.750
<v Speaker 4>immensely adds to the cost of building new housing. So

0:37:42.770 --> 0:37:47.569
<v Speaker 4>this measure basically, um, amends things so that, uh, in

0:37:47.590 --> 0:37:51.169
<v Speaker 4>the future, uh, The CEQA cannot be used as like

0:37:51.210 --> 0:37:55.230
<v Speaker 4>a blunt force instrument to try to stop housing and development.

0:37:55.890 --> 0:37:58.370
<v Speaker 4>It's a great idea because it goes to the actual problem.

0:37:58.450 --> 0:38:01.050
<v Speaker 4>Unlike all these bond bills where you want more money

0:38:01.590 --> 0:38:04.690
<v Speaker 4>so that people can afford the expensive housing, this measure,

0:38:04.750 --> 0:38:08.150
<v Speaker 4>if it passes, will materially add more housing to the

0:38:08.190 --> 0:38:12.690
<v Speaker 4>market and bring down the prices for everyone the right way.

0:38:13.090 --> 0:38:16.430
<v Speaker 4>So I strongly support a yes on Prop 45.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so that wraps up the ballot. Now I want

0:38:18.750 --> 0:38:22.430
<v Speaker 2>to review here. You are a no on everything except

0:38:22.469 --> 0:38:27.580
<v Speaker 2>for Prop 39, which is voter ID. Prop 41 and 42,

0:38:27.580 --> 0:38:30.960
<v Speaker 2>which would then counteract the billionaire's tax if passed and

0:38:30.980 --> 0:38:33.800
<v Speaker 2>they do better at the ballot than the billionaire's tax.

0:38:34.280 --> 0:38:38.540
<v Speaker 2>Prop 43, that protects Prop 13. And Prop 45, which

0:38:38.600 --> 0:38:40.520
<v Speaker 2>would reduce the housing costs.

0:38:41.469 --> 0:38:44.750
<v Speaker 4>That's exactly it. So there are five yes votes to

0:38:44.770 --> 0:38:47.049
<v Speaker 4>cast on your ballot, and I would encourage you to

0:38:47.110 --> 0:38:50.069
<v Speaker 4>definitely vote and do that because the way that we

0:38:50.110 --> 0:38:53.170
<v Speaker 4>lose in this state is when people that are listening

0:38:53.210 --> 0:38:54.480
<v Speaker 4>to this show don't actually go out.

0:38:57.530 --> 0:38:58.250
<v Speaker 1>All right.

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0:39:03.300 --> 0:39:06.640
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0:39:06.660 --> 0:39:08.220
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