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Speaker 1: Back on Extra Innings with Bill Laski. Giants Lou's a
Speaker 1: tough one today, eight to nothing. That's their twelfth shutout
Speaker 1: of the year and have three shutouts in their last
Speaker 1: eight games. Tomorrow one oh five, Logan Web's going to
Speaker 1: try to win the third game, the rubber game of
Speaker 1: a three game match with the Detroit Tigers against Troy Melton,
Speaker 1: the right hander. He's twenty five years old. First pitch
Speaker 1: right here in kamb Are at one oh five. All right,
Speaker 1: my good friend from kron four Sports, Jordans Me next,
Speaker 1: Ben Ross, Ben, how are you on a Saturday?
Speaker 2: Bill doing great? How are you? Oh?
Speaker 1: It could have been better, But I think a lot
Speaker 1: of fans are saying what I'm saying. I think what
Speaker 1: we're seeing on the field is in what we're looking
Speaker 1: for in prospects and better played baseball. I love the
Speaker 1: one caller I had about fundamentals of the game has
Speaker 1: slipped away a little bit. And I would love to
Speaker 1: hear what's your take is and when you're watching this team,
Speaker 1: especially today.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you're right.
Speaker 2: Today was definitely a tough one to watch from a
Speaker 2: fundamental standpoint, and some shaky fielding there and obviously just
Speaker 2: the two hits and one that you'd like to forget.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think that unfortunately, this has sort of
Speaker 2: been the Giants all season long, like one night they'll
Speaker 2: look good.
Speaker 3: The next night they'll look terrible.
Speaker 2: Just just no consistency right now. And you know, I
Speaker 2: know it's obviously it's a very different team than we
Speaker 2: saw earlier in the year.
Speaker 3: Like you said, we're getting look.
Speaker 2: At some of the younger guys, and you know, these
Speaker 2: next couple of months will hopefully be an opportunity for
Speaker 2: some of the younger guys to get major league playing time.
Speaker 2: And I think there are going to be some growing pains,
Speaker 2: and I think you are going to see some nights
Speaker 2: or days like today. It's just you know, it's an
Speaker 2: opportunity for all these guys to prove what they can do,
Speaker 2: and hopefully it's a chance for the front office and
Speaker 2: everyone else to sort of scout and see, you know,
Speaker 2: who's gonna hopefully be a contributing part of this team
Speaker 2: next year. But yeah, tonight, tonight's one he'd like to forget.
Speaker 2: Hopefully they bounce back tomorrow and look a lot better.
Speaker 1: Well, Ben, you know, the conversation really circles around Land
Speaker 1: and Roupe. He's pitched very well in every game is pitched,
Speaker 1: but he's always gets in these innings where he just
Speaker 1: kind of loses it and ball one, ball two, ball three,
Speaker 1: ball four. And he did it again today after five
Speaker 1: stellar innings in which he really kept composure, kept his
Speaker 1: pitch count down, and you start thinking, man, he's dealing
Speaker 1: today after five innings, sixty five pitches, forty four for strikes,
Speaker 1: how can you change that? All of a sudden in
Speaker 1: one inning and he couldn't throw a strike, and he
Speaker 1: ends up walking off with bases loaded with three walks,
Speaker 1: and he looked upset at Tony Vatello. Tony did the
Speaker 1: post game, said, hey, he's a competitor. I understand where
Speaker 1: he's coming from, but I don't think you're really want
Speaker 1: to see young pictures do that to a manager? We
Speaker 1: your thoughts on Land.
Speaker 2: And Roof, well, and I think you don't want to
Speaker 2: see a picture, do that when they've just walked the
Speaker 2: bases loaded, and like you said, he's a guy who
Speaker 2: has had these innings where he just unravels and loses
Speaker 2: the strike zone. I want to throw the same question
Speaker 2: back at you, Bill, because you're the pitcher, so you
Speaker 2: tell me. I mean, how does a guy look so
Speaker 2: so in control for you know, five innings and then
Speaker 2: we've seen this multiple times throughout the season where it's
Speaker 2: just this one inning where he kind of loses the
Speaker 2: strike zone. It kind of reminds me of Rokie Sasaki
Speaker 2: with the Dodgers. Obviously, you know, I think Sasaki maybe
Speaker 2: has more dominant stuff, but it's the same kind of
Speaker 2: thing where I don't know if it's if it's a
Speaker 2: mental block or if it's something with the delivery that
Speaker 2: he just sort of loses. But obviously that's going to
Speaker 2: be the next step for.
Speaker 3: Land and Roof.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think if you're Tony Bytello right now,
Speaker 2: you're keeping a really close eye on Roupe because as
Speaker 2: good as he can look early on, you have to
Speaker 2: be aware of those warning signs where it might come
Speaker 2: apart and you don't want to leave him in too long.
Speaker 2: And so for a guy like Landon Roupe.
Speaker 3: That's gonna be.
Speaker 2: Something he's got to work on and address this offseason,
Speaker 2: because you're not going to really be able to rely
Speaker 2: on him if he has these types of innings. I
Speaker 2: mean five walks again today for the game. That's really
Speaker 2: been the issue for him. He's had a lot of
Speaker 2: outings with four or five six walks, and you just
Speaker 2: can't win at this level that way.
Speaker 1: And it seems when you look at his last few
Speaker 1: outings in San Diego, it happened in the second inning.
Speaker 1: In Milwaukee, it happened in the third inning. It just
Speaker 1: seems like one inning he just either tries to nibble
Speaker 1: and he gets behind, or he tries to spin it
Speaker 1: too much and the balls miss and they're low. But
Speaker 1: he chosels to strike zone at times like today is
Speaker 1: like I said, for five innings, he was aggressive, he
Speaker 1: was going right at guys, a good change up today.
Speaker 1: When you look at his missed thirty one changeups, twenty
Speaker 1: four sinkers, twenty four curve balls, that's a beautiful three
Speaker 1: pitch mix. And in the sixth inning everything unraveled. He
Speaker 1: couldn't throw a strike. A couple of them were four straight.
Speaker 1: That's where the mental side of the game really has
Speaker 1: to come over him, and I think that's one thing
Speaker 1: he's going to have to really dwell on moving forward.
Speaker 1: He's only twenty seven years old. He's got lights out stuff.
Speaker 1: Look what he did for five innings. But I think
Speaker 1: the mental side of the game, either the catcher's got
Speaker 1: to come out there. Message did come out there, it
Speaker 1: did didn't work, and this is something that he's going
Speaker 1: to have to get over.
Speaker 2: I'd love to hear your thoughts on it, too, Bill,
Speaker 2: because I feel like a lot of pitchers when they
Speaker 2: kind of lose the strike zone, oftentimes veteran pitchers at
Speaker 2: least have you know, they kind of see what's working.
Speaker 2: You talk about his three pitch mix, and a lot
Speaker 2: of the time the better pitchers out there, you know,
Speaker 2: they've got one pitch that might be working that day. There.
Speaker 2: It's not necessarily the fastball. Sometimes it's the curveball they
Speaker 2: can throw for a strike, or the slider or whatever
Speaker 2: it may be. I mean, is that something that maybe
Speaker 2: lending Roop needs to get back to, having a better
Speaker 2: feel for which pitch he can throw for a strike
Speaker 2: when he needs to.
Speaker 1: Well, when I pitched, I had a sinker slider. So
Speaker 1: I had balls moving inside outside, But the best thing
Speaker 1: I had was a crossing fastball that went like a
Speaker 1: bullet straight and I could throw that when I went
Speaker 1: too to oh, or if I had a challenge a
Speaker 1: hitter to get ahead, and then you go with the movement.
Speaker 1: But he doesn't throw that many today. He only threw two,
Speaker 1: and he threw four cutters. And a cutter's kind of
Speaker 1: like a fastball, just kind of slides to the left
Speaker 1: a little bit. And I think those are the two
Speaker 1: pitches he has to increase on to throw more strikes. Hey,
Speaker 1: it's nothing to nothing going in the sixth inning, and
Speaker 1: he walks the first hitter, and he walks the second hitter,
Speaker 1: and then he gets Riley Green on a change up again.
Speaker 1: Riley Green struck out three times on change ups, but
Speaker 1: he went to that purpose and then the next hitter
Speaker 1: he walks on four straight pitches. So it's got to
Speaker 1: be mentally to say, all right, let me throw this
Speaker 1: guy for a strike. Challenge this guy, as my old
Speaker 1: pitching coaches would say, I'd rather you back up third
Speaker 1: after a hit than backing up third on three walks.
Speaker 1: And you're really not backing them up. You're literally upset
Speaker 1: and you're getting madder and madder, and you start aiming
Speaker 1: the pitch. You start overthrowing the pitch and the movement
Speaker 1: on the pitch, especially with abs Ben, the pitches are
Speaker 1: tighter now, so you have to challenge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think you're right on that, And especially
Speaker 2: with a guy like Lyndon Rukho only gives up two
Speaker 2: hits today and looks so good through five innings. I
Speaker 2: guess that's where you do have to trust yourself and realize, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, I don't have to nibble. I don't have
Speaker 2: to hit the corner. It's nice to but you know,
Speaker 2: if you mix your your pitches and you mix velocity
Speaker 2: and location, you can get guys out without being too precise.
Speaker 1: And Ben, look at the two hits. He gave up
Speaker 1: the little spinner down the first base line, off the
Speaker 1: end of the bay and had the fly ball or
Speaker 1: left field runs over and it falls in hit. So
Speaker 1: in my mind, I'm like, they're not hitting right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're not hitting right. Not go at you.
Speaker 3: That's a great point. Yeah.
Speaker 2: He basically had not allowed a legitimate hit hit up
Speaker 2: to that point for the whole game.
Speaker 1: So then you look at on the other side. You know,
Speaker 1: the fundamentals. We talked about it fore times with a
Speaker 1: couple of callers. I had a fundamental baseball it's really
Speaker 1: during the game. You can hit infield, you can hit altfield.
Speaker 1: You're at the games, you see all the pre pregame
Speaker 1: activities and all the things they do with drills. But
Speaker 1: it's the younger players that need to start going all
Speaker 1: the way back a little league when you say, if
Speaker 1: the balls hit to me, what do I do? You know,
Speaker 1: that's really the basic way of every infielder and outfielder,
Speaker 1: and I think that's what sometimes that these young players.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're thinking too much, they're looking
Speaker 1: at their defensive cart too much, because some of the
Speaker 1: fundamentals are bad baseball.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and you're right. I mean, look, it's not
Speaker 2: a lack of effort. These guys do put in the work.
Speaker 2: I see it pre game they're working on technique and
Speaker 2: everything like that. But you're right, a lot of it
Speaker 2: is mental. I remember last year, I think it was
Speaker 2: where Elliott Ramos.
Speaker 3: Was going through a rough defensive stretch.
Speaker 2: And he was pretty honest with the media, kind of
Speaker 2: just said that he was pressing, he was trying too hard.
Speaker 3: Like you know, he did get in his head about.
Speaker 2: Making these mistakes and almost wanted to make up for it,
Speaker 2: and sometimes that was the problem.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think you're right.
Speaker 2: I think sometimes keeping it simple is better, just like
Speaker 2: the little leaguers do, right, just say, you know, go
Speaker 2: through it in your mind, where's.
Speaker 3: The play going to be?
Speaker 2: What am I going to do if it comes to
Speaker 2: me in this situation? And I mean, if nothing else,
Speaker 2: that's a good way to keep your mind in the
Speaker 2: game and stay on it. And you're right, I think
Speaker 2: that is something where a lot of these younger players struggle.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Part of it might also just be that they're adjusting
Speaker 2: to so much at the major league level that maybe
Speaker 2: sometimes the fundamentals are the thing that get forgotten when
Speaker 2: when there's so much else that they're worried about and
Speaker 2: you know, going on and it.
Speaker 1: Really comes down to ben about confidence, right, It builds
Speaker 1: that the confidence are a player, and I think that's
Speaker 1: the key. I mean, thirty five thousand people out there
Speaker 1: again today, you know, watching your back and you're making
Speaker 1: the strangest mistakes and you know, even pitchers are not
Speaker 1: covering first base when a ground ball's hit or or
Speaker 1: infielder's not flipping a double play court correctly. There's been
Speaker 1: so many different fundamentals that have gone backwards for this
Speaker 1: Giants team. And and like I said, you and I
Speaker 1: have been out there, we watch what they do, but
Speaker 1: it's in game is what they need their work?
Speaker 3: Right, No, you're right.
Speaker 2: I mean it's obviously it's a it's a lot easier
Speaker 2: to do it when it's when you're when nobody's watching,
Speaker 2: when it's before the game, right and the fans aren't
Speaker 2: really paying attention yet.
Speaker 3: And there's no stakes.
Speaker 2: You're right, in game, it's it's a completely different level
Speaker 2: of pressure. And again, look, it's not an easy sport
Speaker 2: sometimes because there is a lot physically and mentally that
Speaker 2: you got a balance that's going through your mind. But
Speaker 2: I think to your point, confidence is so important because
Speaker 2: if you're trying too hard, if you're trying to do
Speaker 2: too much, I mean, just like in life, if you're
Speaker 2: you're trying too hard, sometimes that's when it goes the worst.
Speaker 2: You just have to relax and sort of let your
Speaker 2: trust your training and you know obviously mentally know what you're.
Speaker 3: Going to do. But not worry about it too much.
Speaker 1: Ben Ross joining me of course. You can see him
Speaker 1: on Crayn for Sports does a great job over there anchoring,
Speaker 1: and you can also follow him on x at Ben
Speaker 1: ross tweets. Very simple to look up. But before the
Speaker 1: game today, five players got put on the Wall of Fame.
Speaker 1: Every one of them had a World Series ring on them.
Speaker 1: Eleven World Series rings on all five of them. A
Speaker 1: nice array of some great players, some great memories. What'd
Speaker 1: you think of the ceremony today?
Speaker 2: I thought it was really cool and I was really
Speaker 2: excited that I got to to talk to them afterwards.
Speaker 2: You know, a group of media after the ceremony got
Speaker 2: to chat with them, and I mean, it's just fun
Speaker 2: to see those guys together again. I think they really
Speaker 2: enjoy it. That's you know what. The honor is fantastic
Speaker 2: and well deserved for all of them, but they talk
Speaker 2: about getting to spend time with each other and for
Speaker 2: their families to get to spend time with each other.
Speaker 3: That's what kind of stuck out to me. I think
Speaker 3: it was Buster Posey who.
Speaker 2: Said, you know, everyone pays attention to the players and
Speaker 2: how much time that we spent together on the field
Speaker 2: and during our careers. But people don't realize, you know,
Speaker 2: our families, our wives spend a lot of time together,
Speaker 2: our kids. You know, Brendan Belt was saying his kids
Speaker 2: didn't care at all about the Wall of Fame. They
Speaker 2: were just excited to see the other players kids that
Speaker 2: they used to hang out with. So, I mean, it's
Speaker 2: really cool when you see those guys come together again,
Speaker 2: because it is I mean, you know, better than me
Speaker 2: being a part of a team like that. It really
Speaker 2: does become like your family.
Speaker 1: Well, it so exciting to see their kids and how
Speaker 1: grown up they've been. You know, Buster Posey son and daughter.
Speaker 1: I remember we're very tiny when he played. And then
Speaker 1: you start looking around at brand In Crawford's five kids
Speaker 1: and they're all almost in high school now. You know,
Speaker 1: I think it's over grade and you start thinking about
Speaker 1: all the little families they had when they played, and
Speaker 1: you know, we're all older. But those families were sure
Speaker 1: excited today for their dads.
Speaker 2: Well, absolutely they were, And I think it's just a
Speaker 2: nice chance for those guys to reminisce and for fans too.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, this is not been a fun season
Speaker 2: for a lot of Giants fands, so you know, you
Speaker 2: don't want.
Speaker 3: To live in the past, and I know Giants fans.
Speaker 2: Are probably tired of living based off those three World series.
Speaker 2: But it is nice to reminisce and hear these guys
Speaker 2: talk about some of their favorite memories playing together and
Speaker 2: some of the some of the moments that they remember.
Speaker 2: I mean, those guys really built something special. And you know,
Speaker 2: for Buster Posey in particular, it was nice to see
Speaker 2: him kind of take off the you know, the GM
Speaker 2: had or the President of Baseball Operations hat and put
Speaker 2: on his player hat again and kind of talk about
Speaker 2: some of the memories and the experiences from those from
Speaker 2: his playing days because it has been a tough year
Speaker 2: and and hopefully, hopefully these kinds of things can take
Speaker 2: some of the take some of the heat off for
Speaker 2: a day and let him remember the front of baseball.
Speaker 2: And it was nice hearing the other guys talk about
Speaker 2: Posey too. You know, to a man, all the other
Speaker 2: players that went in today have a lot of confidence.
Speaker 3: In Buster Posey.
Speaker 2: They all say, you know, he's the smartest guy at
Speaker 2: the group, he's the best baseball mind. He's going to
Speaker 2: get this thing figured out. They all really believe that
Speaker 2: he knows what he's doing, and you know, it's hard
Speaker 2: to argue that from his playing days he is a
Speaker 2: great baseball mind.
Speaker 3: So we'll see if he can help.
Speaker 2: Get the Giants back back on the back end the
Speaker 2: winning track.
Speaker 1: Ben Ross from kr and Channel four Sports joining me
Speaker 1: on the X Learning post game show. Each one of
Speaker 1: these players had something special in them, from you know,
Speaker 1: when you looked at Joe Panic with the play in
Speaker 1: Kansas City with the backhand, you know, and a double
Speaker 1: play that was so instrumental in winning that World Series,
Speaker 1: the Pablo Sandoval hitting three home runs in the first
Speaker 1: game of the World Series. You went on and on
Speaker 1: from Brandon Belt hitting that home run in Washington, Brandon
Speaker 1: Crawford with such defensive plays, then hitting a Grand Slam
Speaker 1: against the Pittsburgh Pirates in the elimination game, and then
Speaker 1: you take Buster Posey on some of the things he
Speaker 1: did for me in the National League Rookie of the
Speaker 1: Year to becoming the National League MVP, and of course
Speaker 1: the home run against Latos in the NLCS. Every one
Speaker 1: of these guys had a piece of those puzzles of
Speaker 1: winning the World Series. And I think you probably saw
Speaker 1: that today.
Speaker 3: That's exactly what they all talked about.
Speaker 2: It was cool to see Pablo's the end of all
Speaker 2: kind of lists off each guy's great moment that it
Speaker 2: was a good question. I can't remember who asked it. Basically,
Speaker 2: you know, what's what's one memory from your career that
Speaker 2: you really remember? And you know, Pablo Sandoval took it
Speaker 2: and mentioned all of those plays that you had talked about,
Speaker 2: and you're right. I mean, I think that's what was
Speaker 2: really special about those teams is that it required everybody
Speaker 2: and so many different guys stepped up in different ways.
Speaker 3: That was just huge.
Speaker 2: I mean, they were truly the ultimate team. And the
Speaker 2: other thing that stood out to me today is I
Speaker 2: think it was Joe Panic sort of talking about how
Speaker 2: every player on those teams they were the same guy
Speaker 2: in the clubhouse as they were on the field, and
Speaker 2: in their personal life too. They were able to sort
Speaker 2: of be themselves.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: He joked that, you know, he said, basically, Pablo Sandoval
Speaker 2: with the energy guy he jumped at. Brandon Belt was
Speaker 2: half asleep, you know, taking his naps up until game time.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: But but then the one thing that they all had
Speaker 2: in common is truly competitive, right, The ultimate competitors, loved winning,
Speaker 2: hated to lose, and it came through.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think I love.
Speaker 1: But Buster Posey said, Buster Posey said, you can't be
Speaker 1: scared to play this game, and Bruce Bochi said that
Speaker 1: also about all five of them. They played smart baseball,
Speaker 1: They were fundamentally sound, and they played together. And I
Speaker 1: think when you look at this whole team of all
Speaker 1: five of them, and I can still picture them playing
Speaker 1: out there, I'm sure you do too, and I'm sure
Speaker 1: a lot of the fans were at the game today
Speaker 1: could picture all those guys in the Giants uniform and
Speaker 1: what they perceived to do in bringing three World Series
Speaker 1: to the Giants and the Giants fans, not all of them.
Speaker 1: But when you look at Buster and Pablo having three,
Speaker 1: and then you have Crawford and Belt having two and
Speaker 1: Panic being having won, it's still that family of all
Speaker 1: five and they held a beautiful, beautiful ceremony today.
Speaker 2: Well what's crazy is it really hasn't been that long
Speaker 2: since these guys were playing. I mean, right, I mean
Speaker 2: Brandon Crawford just retired a couple of years ago, obviously,
Speaker 2: Posey not that long ago, Brandon Belt. So yeah, you
Speaker 2: can really remember these guys playing, and you're right, I
Speaker 2: mean it was cool to see them sort of come
Speaker 2: up together. They commented on how it was fun for
Speaker 2: all five of them to go in to this, you know,
Speaker 2: go on to the Wall of Fame in the same class,
Speaker 2: because they did kind of all come up together. I
Speaker 2: mean a little bit staggered, but it was fun hearing
Speaker 2: them reminisce about the first time that they all met
Speaker 2: each other and how they were in similar positions just
Speaker 2: breaking through to the major leagues. And I think we
Speaker 2: saw all of their careers sort of grow together, especially
Speaker 2: when you talk about guys like Brandon, Belt, Crawford and Posey,
Speaker 2: and then Joe Panic sort of talked about how those
Speaker 2: guys all helped him and having already had one World Series,
Speaker 2: and yeah, I mean again, those guys, you can see
Speaker 2: how much they mean to each other and how much
Speaker 2: this city means to them, and how much this organization
Speaker 2: means to them. And I think for the fans that
Speaker 2: must have been really really cool to be a part
Speaker 2: of today.
Speaker 1: Ben Ross joined me for a couple more minutes on
Speaker 1: the Extra Any postgame show. When you saw the coaching
Speaker 1: staff out there, I thought that was pretty cool with
Speaker 1: Bruce Bochie, Dave Righetti, Mark Garner, Tim Flannery, Ron Wotis.
Speaker 1: That coaching staff was authentic and boy they put a
Speaker 1: lot of hours in detail into winning three World Series.
Speaker 1: And I liked when they all spoke they said some
Speaker 1: things about different pitchers and players and teams. I thought
Speaker 1: that was well deserved by all the coaches speaking up.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and you're right, you're talking about some great baseball lids.
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel so fortunate that those guys are
Speaker 2: still around the organization, especially having Bruce Bochie back this year,
Speaker 2: and you know, Dusty Baker has been around as well.
Speaker 2: I love that some of the great managers are still
Speaker 2: part of the organization. And boyd they certainly did do
Speaker 2: a great job. I mean, I think they were as
Speaker 2: instrumental as the players were during those years, and just
Speaker 2: a special group all around.
Speaker 1: Well. Been a couple of days ago, Mike cruco Is
Speaker 1: calling it at his career over at the end of
Speaker 1: the year, a special man, a special voice the Giants
Speaker 1: fans has listened to over thirty years. Of course, I
Speaker 1: got to play with him on the same pitching staff
Speaker 1: at him for a couple of years. I've got to
Speaker 1: know him, but just a genuine person, just a friendly person,
Speaker 1: a friendly guy, that voice you always want to hear
Speaker 1: when that game comes on. Of course, illness is hurting
Speaker 1: him each Like he said, it was months weeks now
Speaker 1: it's days, and it's going to be a hard time.
Speaker 1: It's going to be a hard time to fill that slot.
Speaker 1: And Kype staying on, John Miller's staying on, Dave Fleming
Speaker 1: staying on. But this is a big miss. This is
Speaker 1: a big chair that's going to be empty. And I
Speaker 1: think a lot of giants are starting to understand that
Speaker 1: and see it. I'd love to hear what you have
Speaker 1: to say about him.
Speaker 3: I think you said it great.
Speaker 2: I mean, he was a great pitcher, he's an outstanding
Speaker 2: broadcast for one of the best, and and like you said,
Speaker 2: he's just such a great genuine person. He's so friendly
Speaker 2: at the ballpark and welcoming and wants to catch up
Speaker 2: with everybody. And yeah, I mean, I think at least
Speaker 2: for me personally, when I when I heard the news,
Speaker 2: not necessarily shocking or surprising. You knew that this was
Speaker 2: probably going to come at some point, but it's still
Speaker 2: it hits you hard because this is a guy who
Speaker 2: has basically been such a such a huge part of
Speaker 2: the Giants for so long in so many different ways,
Speaker 2: and beyond the Giants, a part of the Bay Area community.
Speaker 2: And it really is going to feel like something is
Speaker 2: missing next year when he's not calling into games anymore.
Speaker 2: And again, thank goodness, like you said, Dwane Kuiper will
Speaker 2: still be doing it, John Miller, Dave Fleming. I mean,
Speaker 2: I feel like Giants fans do do understand and appreciate
Speaker 2: how lucky they are with this group of broadcasters. I mean,
Speaker 2: these are these are all elite Hall of Fame level broadcasters,
Speaker 2: and I think when you talk about Kruko's Mike Kruko's
Speaker 2: impact in baseball, it goes beyond the Bay Area. You know,
Speaker 2: all these national writers have come out and talked about
Speaker 2: how good he is at his job and how fun
Speaker 2: he is to listen to. I think it was Jason
Speaker 2: Stark from The Athletic, who's a big national baseball writer
Speaker 2: back he wrote that, you know, he's stayed up late
Speaker 2: watching countless Giants games just to just to hear Kruk
Speaker 2: and Kype and to you.
Speaker 3: Know, learn something about the game and be entertained.
Speaker 2: And uh yeah, those guys Krook and Kype in particular, Boy,
Speaker 2: what a what a partnership they've had, and just I
Speaker 2: don't think I've ever seen as good of a broadcast
Speaker 2: Proof when you talk about chemistry and teaching something will
Speaker 2: having fun, They're just They're fantastic. So I'm glad that
Speaker 2: Dwayne is sticking around and hopefully we'll see Kruco out
Speaker 2: at the ballpark even if he's not on the broadcast.
Speaker 1: Well, Ben, I want to thank you for your time
Speaker 1: on a Saturday and I know you got work to do,
Speaker 1: and of course everybody gets to watch you on television
Speaker 1: KRON four. But a great job again connecting with me, Ben,
Speaker 1: and I appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Anytime. Appreciate you having me on. Thanks a lot.
Speaker 1: That was Ben Ross. You can watch him on KRON
Speaker 1: for Sports. Has a great job as an anchor coming
Speaker 1: up next. I think I've talked about it before. I
Speaker 1: was a big Detroit Tiger fan back in the day
Speaker 1: when I grew up in Toledo and the nineteen sixty
Speaker 1: eight Tiger team was somebody that I chaerish, somebody that
Speaker 1: I've just made me into the game that I love
Speaker 1: the game of baseball. From Al Caline to Willie Horton
Speaker 1: and Norm Cash to Bill Freehand. But the pitching staff
Speaker 1: had something to do with this. Denny McClain, Mickey Lolitch,
Speaker 1: Earl Wilson, and my guest today, John Hiller. That's going
Speaker 1: to come up next. John had eighty seven wins, one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five saves in his fifteen year career.
Speaker 1: He was a World Series champ in nineteen sixty eight
Speaker 1: in All Star in American League. He grew up in
Speaker 1: Canada and he was in a Canadian Baseball Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: I got a chance to talk to John Hiller this week,
Speaker 1: and that's coming up next right here on the Externing
Speaker 1: Postgame Show on K and B R, John Hiller and
Speaker 1: I discussed baseball with the Detroit Tiger phenom