WEBVTT - Ben Ross discusses the Giants' youth movement to conclude the season 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:05.720 KNBR Extra Innings with Bill Laski keeps the postgame Roland 0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:06.880 live right here. 0:00:06.720 --> 0:00:10.280 Sponsored by Lenard's Markets of the Bay Area. Quite simply 0:00:10.480 --> 0:00:11.560 the best. 0:00:11.200 --> 0:00:14.920 On KNBR one oh four five FM and six eighty Am. 0:00:15.120 --> 0:00:16.680 The Sports Leader. 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:21.000 Back on Extra Innings with Bill Laski. Giants Lou's a 0:00:21.000 --> 0:00:24.599 tough one today, eight to nothing. That's their twelfth shutout 0:00:24.720 --> 0:00:27.320 of the year and have three shutouts in their last 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:30.960 eight games. Tomorrow one oh five, Logan Web's going to 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:32.960 try to win the third game, the rubber game of 0:00:33.000 --> 0:00:36.760 a three game match with the Detroit Tigers against Troy Melton, 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:40.040 the right hander. He's twenty five years old. First pitch 0:00:40.120 --> 0:00:43.279 right here in kamb Are at one oh five. All right, 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:46.560 my good friend from kron four Sports, Jordans Me next, 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:49.080 Ben Ross, Ben, how are you on a Saturday? 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:52.360 Bill doing great? How are you? Oh? 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:54.040 It could have been better, But I think a lot 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:57.840 of fans are saying what I'm saying. I think what 0:00:58.280 --> 0:01:00.880 we're seeing on the field is in what we're looking 0:01:00.960 --> 0:01:04.880 for in prospects and better played baseball. I love the 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:08.119 one caller I had about fundamentals of the game has 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:10.679 slipped away a little bit. And I would love to 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:12.920 hear what's your take is and when you're watching this team, 0:01:13.000 --> 0:01:13.959 especially today. 0:01:15.319 --> 0:01:16.440 Yeah, I mean, you're right. 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:19.240 Today was definitely a tough one to watch from a 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:23.840 fundamental standpoint, and some shaky fielding there and obviously just 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:27.839 the two hits and one that you'd like to forget. 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:30.679 I mean, I think that unfortunately, this has sort of 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:33.800 been the Giants all season long, like one night they'll 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:34.560 look good. 0:01:34.360 --> 0:01:35.760 The next night they'll look terrible. 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:39.399 Just just no consistency right now. And you know, I 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:41.160 know it's obviously it's a very different team than we 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:42.040 saw earlier in the year. 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:44.119 Like you said, we're getting look. 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:46.440 At some of the younger guys, and you know, these 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:49.640 next couple of months will hopefully be an opportunity for 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:52.560 some of the younger guys to get major league playing time. 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:54.920 And I think there are going to be some growing pains, 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:56.640 and I think you are going to see some nights 0:01:57.160 --> 0:02:00.480 or days like today. It's just you know, it's an 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:03.720 opportunity for all these guys to prove what they can do, 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:05.960 and hopefully it's a chance for the front office and 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:08.520 everyone else to sort of scout and see, you know, 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:11.480 who's gonna hopefully be a contributing part of this team 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:14.680 next year. But yeah, tonight, tonight's one he'd like to forget. 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:16.760 Hopefully they bounce back tomorrow and look a lot better. 0:02:17.000 --> 0:02:20.000 Well, Ben, you know, the conversation really circles around Land 0:02:20.040 --> 0:02:23.360 and Roupe. He's pitched very well in every game is pitched, 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:25.640 but he's always gets in these innings where he just 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:28.799 kind of loses it and ball one, ball two, ball three, 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:31.919 ball four. And he did it again today after five 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:35.920 stellar innings in which he really kept composure, kept his 0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:39.440 pitch count down, and you start thinking, man, he's dealing 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:43.639 today after five innings, sixty five pitches, forty four for strikes, 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:45.760 how can you change that? All of a sudden in 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:48.400 one inning and he couldn't throw a strike, and he 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:51.680 ends up walking off with bases loaded with three walks, 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:54.680 and he looked upset at Tony Vatello. Tony did the 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:58.000 post game, said, hey, he's a competitor. I understand where 0:02:58.000 --> 0:03:00.400 he's coming from, but I don't think you're really want 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:03.200 to see young pictures do that to a manager? We 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:04.440 your thoughts on Land. 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:07.760 And Roof, well, and I think you don't want to 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:09.720 see a picture, do that when they've just walked the 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:12.359 bases loaded, and like you said, he's a guy who 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:15.440 has had these innings where he just unravels and loses 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:17.959 the strike zone. I want to throw the same question 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:20.320 back at you, Bill, because you're the pitcher, so you 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:24.000 tell me. I mean, how does a guy look so 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:26.959 so in control for you know, five innings and then 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:31.119 we've seen this multiple times throughout the season where it's 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:32.799 just this one inning where he kind of loses the 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:35.080 strike zone. It kind of reminds me of Rokie Sasaki 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:39.160 with the Dodgers. Obviously, you know, I think Sasaki maybe 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:41.560 has more dominant stuff, but it's the same kind of 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:44.040 thing where I don't know if it's if it's a 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:48.200 mental block or if it's something with the delivery that 0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:51.200 he just sort of loses. But obviously that's going to 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:51.920 be the next step for. 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:52.480 Land and Roof. 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:54.640 I mean, I think if you're Tony Bytello right now, 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:58.000 you're keeping a really close eye on Roupe because as 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:00.080 good as he can look early on, you have to 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:03.120 be aware of those warning signs where it might come 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:04.760 apart and you don't want to leave him in too long. 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:06.400 And so for a guy like Landon Roupe. 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:07.200 That's gonna be. 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:09.920 Something he's got to work on and address this offseason, 0:04:10.400 --> 0:04:12.200 because you're not going to really be able to rely 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:14.680 on him if he has these types of innings. I 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:17.840 mean five walks again today for the game. That's really 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:19.560 been the issue for him. He's had a lot of 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:23.000 outings with four or five six walks, and you just 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:24.400 can't win at this level that way. 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:27.240 And it seems when you look at his last few 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:30.080 outings in San Diego, it happened in the second inning. 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:33.560 In Milwaukee, it happened in the third inning. It just 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:37.239 seems like one inning he just either tries to nibble 0:04:37.279 --> 0:04:39.599 and he gets behind, or he tries to spin it 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:43.440 too much and the balls miss and they're low. But 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:46.680 he chosels to strike zone at times like today is 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:49.479 like I said, for five innings, he was aggressive, he 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:52.440 was going right at guys, a good change up today. 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:55.520 When you look at his missed thirty one changeups, twenty 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:59.160 four sinkers, twenty four curve balls, that's a beautiful three 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:03.200 pitch mix. And in the sixth inning everything unraveled. He 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:06.200 couldn't throw a strike. A couple of them were four straight. 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:09.360 That's where the mental side of the game really has 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:11.880 to come over him, and I think that's one thing 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:14.360 he's going to have to really dwell on moving forward. 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:17.880 He's only twenty seven years old. He's got lights out stuff. 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:20.720 Look what he did for five innings. But I think 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:23.040 the mental side of the game, either the catcher's got 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:26.120 to come out there. Message did come out there, it 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:28.760 did didn't work, and this is something that he's going 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:29.520 to have to get over. 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:32.719 I'd love to hear your thoughts on it, too, Bill, 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:35.200 because I feel like a lot of pitchers when they 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:40.520 kind of lose the strike zone, oftentimes veteran pitchers at 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:42.960 least have you know, they kind of see what's working. 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:45.520 You talk about his three pitch mix, and a lot 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:47.760 of the time the better pitchers out there, you know, 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:50.080 they've got one pitch that might be working that day. There. 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:53.440 It's not necessarily the fastball. Sometimes it's the curveball they 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:55.880 can throw for a strike, or the slider or whatever 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:58.400 it may be. I mean, is that something that maybe 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:00.920 lending Roop needs to get back to, having a better 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:03.599 feel for which pitch he can throw for a strike 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:04.280 when he needs to. 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:07.880 Well, when I pitched, I had a sinker slider. So 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:11.480 I had balls moving inside outside, But the best thing 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:14.120 I had was a crossing fastball that went like a 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:16.800 bullet straight and I could throw that when I went 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:18.520 too to oh, or if I had a challenge a 0:06:18.600 --> 0:06:21.200 hitter to get ahead, and then you go with the movement. 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:24.960 But he doesn't throw that many today. He only threw two, 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:28.240 and he threw four cutters. And a cutter's kind of 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:30.440 like a fastball, just kind of slides to the left 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:32.560 a little bit. And I think those are the two 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:36.840 pitches he has to increase on to throw more strikes. Hey, 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:39.840 it's nothing to nothing going in the sixth inning, and 0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:42.760 he walks the first hitter, and he walks the second hitter, 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:45.880 and then he gets Riley Green on a change up again. 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:48.640 Riley Green struck out three times on change ups, but 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:51.280 he went to that purpose and then the next hitter 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:54.240 he walks on four straight pitches. So it's got to 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:57.520 be mentally to say, all right, let me throw this 0:06:57.560 --> 0:07:00.640 guy for a strike. Challenge this guy, as my old 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:03.280 pitching coaches would say, I'd rather you back up third 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:06.919 after a hit than backing up third on three walks. 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:10.640 And you're really not backing them up. You're literally upset 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:14.120 and you're getting madder and madder, and you start aiming 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:17.600 the pitch. You start overthrowing the pitch and the movement 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:21.880 on the pitch, especially with abs Ben, the pitches are 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:24.400 tighter now, so you have to challenge. 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:28.680 Yeah, and I think you're right on that, And especially 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:30.720 with a guy like Lyndon Rukho only gives up two 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:32.720 hits today and looks so good through five innings. I 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:35.880 guess that's where you do have to trust yourself and realize, yeah, 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:38.200 you know, I don't have to nibble. I don't have 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:40.520 to hit the corner. It's nice to but you know, 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:43.680 if you mix your your pitches and you mix velocity 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:47.200 and location, you can get guys out without being too precise. 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:49.880 And Ben, look at the two hits. He gave up 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:53.080 the little spinner down the first base line, off the 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:55.520 end of the bay and had the fly ball or 0:07:55.600 --> 0:08:00.600 left field runs over and it falls in hit. So 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:04.280 in my mind, I'm like, they're not hitting right. Yeah, 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:06.480 they're not hitting right. Not go at you. 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:08.960 That's a great point. Yeah. 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:12.480 He basically had not allowed a legitimate hit hit up 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:13.840 to that point for the whole game. 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:17.320 So then you look at on the other side. You know, 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:19.920 the fundamentals. We talked about it fore times with a 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:23.360 couple of callers. I had a fundamental baseball it's really 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:26.600 during the game. You can hit infield, you can hit altfield. 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:29.240 You're at the games, you see all the pre pregame 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:32.720 activities and all the things they do with drills. But 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:35.800 it's the younger players that need to start going all 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:38.120 the way back a little league when you say, if 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:40.680 the balls hit to me, what do I do? You know, 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:44.040 that's really the basic way of every infielder and outfielder, 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:47.080 and I think that's what sometimes that these young players. 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:49.360 I don't know if they're thinking too much, they're looking 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:52.240 at their defensive cart too much, because some of the 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:54.320 fundamentals are bad baseball. 0:08:55.880 --> 0:08:59.199 Yeah, yeah, and you're right. I mean, look, it's not 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:01.160 a lack of effort. These guys do put in the work. 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:04.040 I see it pre game they're working on technique and 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:05.600 everything like that. But you're right, a lot of it 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:09.000 is mental. I remember last year, I think it was 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:10.479 where Elliott Ramos. 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:12.320 Was going through a rough defensive stretch. 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:14.320 And he was pretty honest with the media, kind of 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:17.160 just said that he was pressing, he was trying too hard. 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:20.439 Like you know, he did get in his head about. 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:23.360 Making these mistakes and almost wanted to make up for it, 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:25.000 and sometimes that was the problem. 0:09:25.280 --> 0:09:26.880 I don't know. I think you're right. 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:31.440 I think sometimes keeping it simple is better, just like 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:34.719 the little leaguers do, right, just say, you know, go 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:37.000 through it in your mind, where's. 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:37.640 The play going to be? 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:39.720 What am I going to do if it comes to 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:42.319 me in this situation? And I mean, if nothing else, 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:44.440 that's a good way to keep your mind in the 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:46.920 game and stay on it. And you're right, I think 0:09:47.440 --> 0:09:50.880 that is something where a lot of these younger players struggle. 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:51.560 You know. 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:54.760 Part of it might also just be that they're adjusting 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:58.199 to so much at the major league level that maybe 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:01.120 sometimes the fundamentals are the thing that get forgotten when 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:03.480 when there's so much else that they're worried about and 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:05.240 you know, going on and it. 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:08.240 Really comes down to ben about confidence, right, It builds 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:10.760 that the confidence are a player, and I think that's 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:13.880 the key. I mean, thirty five thousand people out there 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:16.880 again today, you know, watching your back and you're making 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:20.840 the strangest mistakes and you know, even pitchers are not 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:23.800 covering first base when a ground ball's hit or or 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:28.200 infielder's not flipping a double play court correctly. There's been 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:31.200 so many different fundamentals that have gone backwards for this 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:34.000 Giants team. And and like I said, you and I 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:35.760 have been out there, we watch what they do, but 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:38.360 it's in game is what they need their work? 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:40.480 Right, No, you're right. 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:43.000 I mean it's obviously it's a it's a lot easier 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:45.360 to do it when it's when you're when nobody's watching, 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:47.720 when it's before the game, right and the fans aren't 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:49.000 really paying attention yet. 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:50.200 And there's no stakes. 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:53.120 You're right, in game, it's it's a completely different level 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:56.480 of pressure. And again, look, it's not an easy sport 0:10:56.559 --> 0:10:59.800 sometimes because there is a lot physically and mentally that 0:10:59.840 --> 0:11:01.920 you got a balance that's going through your mind. But 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:08.000 I think to your point, confidence is so important because 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:10.560 if you're trying too hard, if you're trying to do 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:13.040 too much, I mean, just like in life, if you're 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:15.920 you're trying too hard, sometimes that's when it goes the worst. 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:17.920 You just have to relax and sort of let your 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:22.520 trust your training and you know obviously mentally know what you're. 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:24.640 Going to do. But not worry about it too much. 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:27.640 Ben Ross joining me of course. You can see him 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:30.720 on Crayn for Sports does a great job over there anchoring, 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:33.280 and you can also follow him on x at Ben 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:37.200 ross tweets. Very simple to look up. But before the 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:40.720 game today, five players got put on the Wall of Fame. 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:43.320 Every one of them had a World Series ring on them. 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:46.640 Eleven World Series rings on all five of them. A 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:49.960 nice array of some great players, some great memories. What'd 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:51.360 you think of the ceremony today? 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:55.559 I thought it was really cool and I was really 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:58.960 excited that I got to to talk to them afterwards. 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:02.720 You know, a group of media after the ceremony got 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:06.000 to chat with them, and I mean, it's just fun 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:08.600 to see those guys together again. I think they really 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:12.559 enjoy it. That's you know what. The honor is fantastic 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:14.600 and well deserved for all of them, but they talk 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:17.560 about getting to spend time with each other and for 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:20.240 their families to get to spend time with each other. 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:21.960 That's what kind of stuck out to me. I think 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:23.600 it was Buster Posey who. 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:26.800 Said, you know, everyone pays attention to the players and 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:29.679 how much time that we spent together on the field 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:33.040 and during our careers. But people don't realize, you know, 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:35.400 our families, our wives spend a lot of time together, 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:39.360 our kids. You know, Brendan Belt was saying his kids 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:41.200 didn't care at all about the Wall of Fame. They 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:44.240 were just excited to see the other players kids that 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:47.600 they used to hang out with. So, I mean, it's 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:49.920 really cool when you see those guys come together again, 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:51.960 because it is I mean, you know, better than me 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:54.920 being a part of a team like that. It really 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:56.320 does become like your family. 0:12:57.040 --> 0:12:59.560 Well, it so exciting to see their kids and how 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:03.439 grown up they've been. You know, Buster Posey son and daughter. 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:06.559 I remember we're very tiny when he played. And then 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:09.360 you start looking around at brand In Crawford's five kids 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:12.520 and they're all almost in high school now. You know, 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:16.440 I think it's over grade and you start thinking about 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:19.200 all the little families they had when they played, and 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:22.120 you know, we're all older. But those families were sure 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:23.680 excited today for their dads. 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:28.680 Well, absolutely they were, And I think it's just a 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:32.640 nice chance for those guys to reminisce and for fans too. 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:34.720 I mean, look, this is not been a fun season 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:37.400 for a lot of Giants fands, so you know, you 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:37.960 don't want. 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:41.600 To live in the past, and I know Giants fans. 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:45.400 Are probably tired of living based off those three World series. 0:13:45.440 --> 0:13:47.679 But it is nice to reminisce and hear these guys 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:50.480 talk about some of their favorite memories playing together and 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:53.680 some of the some of the moments that they remember. 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:57.640 I mean, those guys really built something special. And you know, 0:13:57.720 --> 0:14:00.160 for Buster Posey in particular, it was nice to see 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:03.800 him kind of take off the you know, the GM 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:06.880 had or the President of Baseball Operations hat and put 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:09.400 on his player hat again and kind of talk about 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:13.160 some of the memories and the experiences from those from 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:16.120 his playing days because it has been a tough year 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:20.480 and and hopefully, hopefully these kinds of things can take 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:22.040 some of the take some of the heat off for 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:24.440 a day and let him remember the front of baseball. 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:26.960 And it was nice hearing the other guys talk about 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:29.320 Posey too. You know, to a man, all the other 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:32.240 players that went in today have a lot of confidence. 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:32.880 In Buster Posey. 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:34.960 They all say, you know, he's the smartest guy at 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:37.200 the group, he's the best baseball mind. He's going to 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:39.760 get this thing figured out. They all really believe that 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:42.000 he knows what he's doing, and you know, it's hard 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:43.840 to argue that from his playing days he is a 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:44.880 great baseball mind. 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:47.600 So we'll see if he can help. 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:50.440 Get the Giants back back on the back end the 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:51.120 winning track. 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:55.480 Ben Ross from kr and Channel four Sports joining me 0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:58.120 on the X Learning post game show. Each one of 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:02.040 these players had something special in them, from you know, 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:04.760 when you looked at Joe Panic with the play in 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:08.040 Kansas City with the backhand, you know, and a double 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:11.360 play that was so instrumental in winning that World Series, 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:14.960 the Pablo Sandoval hitting three home runs in the first 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:17.720 game of the World Series. You went on and on 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:21.320 from Brandon Belt hitting that home run in Washington, Brandon 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:25.160 Crawford with such defensive plays, then hitting a Grand Slam 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:28.920 against the Pittsburgh Pirates in the elimination game, and then 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:31.520 you take Buster Posey on some of the things he 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:33.640 did for me in the National League Rookie of the 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:37.280 Year to becoming the National League MVP, and of course 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:41.960 the home run against Latos in the NLCS. Every one 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:44.520 of these guys had a piece of those puzzles of 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:47.040 winning the World Series. And I think you probably saw 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:47.560 that today. 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:52.000 That's exactly what they all talked about. 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:54.640 It was cool to see Pablo's the end of all 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:58.040 kind of lists off each guy's great moment that it 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:00.640 was a good question. I can't remember who asked it. Basically, 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:03.440 you know, what's what's one memory from your career that 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:06.720 you really remember? And you know, Pablo Sandoval took it 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:10.280 and mentioned all of those plays that you had talked about, 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:12.040 and you're right. I mean, I think that's what was 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:17.040 really special about those teams is that it required everybody 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:21.560 and so many different guys stepped up in different ways. 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:23.600 That was just huge. 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:25.320 I mean, they were truly the ultimate team. And the 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:28.360 other thing that stood out to me today is I 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:30.760 think it was Joe Panic sort of talking about how 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:35.600 every player on those teams they were the same guy 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:38.760 in the clubhouse as they were on the field, and 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:42.000 in their personal life too. They were able to sort 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:42.960 of be themselves. 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:43.200 You know. 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:47.480 He joked that, you know, he said, basically, Pablo Sandoval 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:51.200 with the energy guy he jumped at. Brandon Belt was 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:54.560 half asleep, you know, taking his naps up until game time. 0:16:55.840 --> 0:16:56.040 You know. 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:58.720 But but then the one thing that they all had 0:16:58.720 --> 0:17:05.840 in common is truly competitive, right, The ultimate competitors, loved winning, 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:09.400 hated to lose, and it came through. 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:11.399 So yeah, I think I love. 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:14.840 But Buster Posey said, Buster Posey said, you can't be 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:18.119 scared to play this game, and Bruce Bochi said that 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:21.879 also about all five of them. They played smart baseball, 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:26.280 They were fundamentally sound, and they played together. And I 0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:28.480 think when you look at this whole team of all 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:31.200 five of them, and I can still picture them playing 0:17:31.240 --> 0:17:33.040 out there, I'm sure you do too, and I'm sure 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:34.760 a lot of the fans were at the game today 0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:37.480 could picture all those guys in the Giants uniform and 0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:40.840 what they perceived to do in bringing three World Series 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:43.880 to the Giants and the Giants fans, not all of them. 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:47.160 But when you look at Buster and Pablo having three, 0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:50.159 and then you have Crawford and Belt having two and 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:53.760 Panic being having won, it's still that family of all 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:57.879 five and they held a beautiful, beautiful ceremony today. 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:01.560 Well what's crazy is it really hasn't been that long 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:04.160 since these guys were playing. I mean, right, I mean 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:07.160 Brandon Crawford just retired a couple of years ago, obviously, 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:11.280 Posey not that long ago, Brandon Belt. So yeah, you 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:14.480 can really remember these guys playing, and you're right, I 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:18.120 mean it was cool to see them sort of come 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:21.720 up together. They commented on how it was fun for 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:24.239 all five of them to go in to this, you know, 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:26.760 go on to the Wall of Fame in the same class, 0:18:27.000 --> 0:18:29.040 because they did kind of all come up together. I 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:32.480 mean a little bit staggered, but it was fun hearing 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:35.240 them reminisce about the first time that they all met 0:18:35.280 --> 0:18:38.639 each other and how they were in similar positions just 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:41.560 breaking through to the major leagues. And I think we 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:44.600 saw all of their careers sort of grow together, especially 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:48.800 when you talk about guys like Brandon, Belt, Crawford and Posey, 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:52.440 and then Joe Panic sort of talked about how those 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:56.159 guys all helped him and having already had one World Series, 0:18:56.200 --> 0:19:01.920 and yeah, I mean again, those guys, you can see 0:19:02.560 --> 0:19:06.240 how much they mean to each other and how much 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:09.159 this city means to them, and how much this organization 0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:11.879