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Speaker 1: And we continue at one five in the afternoon on

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Speaker 1: the John Phillips Show, mister Randy Weggs in Culver City. John.

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Speaker 2: Later on, in her interview with Kron four, Oakland Mayor

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Speaker 3: And that's why our strategic plan focuses on getting people

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Speaker 3: to set up new encampments or new tenth cities. And so,

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Speaker 3: quite frankly, we're very focused on this.

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Speaker 1: Oh, she's a big abuser. Huh.

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Speaker 2: Quite frankly. Twice in one interview, that is Catherine Barger levels.

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Speaker 1: Eight hundred two two two five two two two is

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Speaker 1: next guest to the program. JJ Smith is an independent

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Speaker 1: journalist who recently filmed something that went all over the place,

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Speaker 1: not just in the state of California, not just nationally

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Speaker 1: but internationally, showing election fraud going on in broad daylight

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Speaker 1: right here in the state of California. He filmed an

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Speaker 1: illegal ballot signature scheme that he's going to explain right now.

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Speaker 1: JJ Smith, thanks so much for stopping by.

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Speaker 4: Hey, how you doing. How you doing.

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Speaker 1: We're doing fantastic and excellent work being on the scene

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Speaker 1: and getting this fraud on camera so that people can't say, oh, no,

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Speaker 1: the receipts.

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Speaker 4: I have the receipts.

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Speaker 1: Can you explain what go ahead?

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Speaker 4: I was astounding when I've seen it. It was strange

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Speaker 1: Just exactly what was going on.

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Speaker 4: What was going on? Well, people was telling me you

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Speaker 4: And I've been looking into these things lately. So I

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Speaker 1: What it was.

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Speaker 4: And it was. I didn't know if it was petitions,

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Speaker 4: you get five dollars. But while I'm right there, I

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Speaker 4: over hear one person say you did two of them, here,

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Speaker 4: They're using other people of information.

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Speaker 1: So they weren't paying you for your name and your

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Speaker 1: down the name, the address, the signature for someone who

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Speaker 4: No, I didn't. I didn't. I didn't want to bother

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Speaker 1: And how many people were going up to these desks

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Speaker 4: It was hundreds of people within the last two hours.

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Speaker 1: And they were just moving from one table to the

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Speaker 4: Correct. Correct.

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Speaker 1: And so you decided it would be a good idea

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Speaker 4: Yes, I was feeling it while I was speaking to

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Speaker 1: And what were you thinking, is all this was going on?

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Speaker 1: Holy hell, they're doing this on tape.

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Speaker 4: I'm just thinking. I was just I didn't know what

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Speaker 1: And of course big money is involved in all of this,

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Speaker 1: Who knows what they were paying for signatures, but it

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Speaker 4: That's when all over the place. I didn't expect for

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Speaker 1: Me, whoa when did that happen?

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Speaker 1: And so what did they say? They want you to

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Speaker 4: They already had enough for what they had, but they

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Speaker 1: Now, I saw you put something up on social media

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Speaker 4: And it happened here. Still normally they reach out to me,

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Speaker 1: Do you think that there's any reforms that could come

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Speaker 4: they are. They always had voter fraud everywhere, all over

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Speaker 1: What do you think about California's all vote by mail

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Speaker 1: Everything is clean, everything is legit. You can accept our results.

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Speaker 4: I don't I don't trust it, and I still believe

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Speaker 1: And then after you saw what you saw, I'm sure

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Speaker 4: Nope, I'm not changing my mind anytime soon.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you. For whatever reason, the opposition to voter

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Speaker 1: When you need to present a picture identification to get

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Speaker 1: because this is how it's done.

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Speaker 4: Correct. Yeah, that's that's not right. No more.

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Speaker 1: Now what would you say, because here's what I assume

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Speaker 4: I won't believe it because this is not the first

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Speaker 1: Did you talk to any of the people who were

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Speaker 4: No, I haven't spoke to him yet, but quite sure

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sure. I'm sure any number of people are

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's how you gets so many things passed

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Speaker 1: Are you going to keep your eye out for more

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Speaker 1: I am good, good, And I'll tell you more people

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Speaker 2: Well we can send some to his office.

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Speaker 5: What were the medical consequences?

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Speaker 5: It's the taxpayer funded system that's supposed to get you

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Speaker 1: We have that many people circle in the drain.

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Speaker 2: Well, and apparently most of these companies are in like

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Speaker 7: Well, there's no hospice there.

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Speaker 5: Companies accused of overbilling. How does that make you feel?

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Speaker 7: Really sad because I talk to them every day.

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Speaker 5: Costing hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars.

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Speaker 7: You can't explain that.

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Speaker 5: There's no explaining that what's being done about it is

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Speaker 8: I share it. I have the frustration and why, hey.

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Speaker 5: I share it. I have the frustration and why it's

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Speaker 6: It makes me lose faith in the system that is built.

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Speaker 2: Okay, now I'm have to skip a few seconds because

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Speaker 2: They had that sizzle reel and then decided to waste

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Speaker 5: I got a quite whew.

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Speaker 1: That was great.

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Speaker 5: Let's do it again.

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Speaker 1: Lynn.

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Speaker 5: You are old and in hospice, so I would be

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Speaker 2: Boy, we've learning so many things today. People don't know

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Speaker 1: There's so much you don't know about your own self, and.

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Speaker 2: Then a story that we probably don't have time to

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00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 2: get to. You also don't know that you signed up

448
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 2: to be an uber driver.

449
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: And if you hang out with Bill Cosby, you don't

450
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 1: know that you had sex.

451
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,719
Speaker 6: Had a feeling you were gonna take it there as

452
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 6: physical therapy simply because I had had a kind of

453
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,679
Speaker 6: an injury on the pickleball court. The administrator at the

454
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 6: office was like, they're not going to pay any of

455
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,959
Speaker 6: your claims, and I was shocked. They said, you're in hospice,

456
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 6: and I said, what.

457
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 1: So much to look great?

458
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 2: So she goes in for a little pet with her

459
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 2: tennis elbow and they say, hey, aren't you supposed to

460
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 2: be nearly.

461
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 1: Dead because on the farm here it says you have

462
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 1: forty five different kinds of cancer.

463
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 6: What are you talking about?

464
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 5: Are you kidding? Meat you?

465
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 6: I look like I'm She was no, Now I know you.

466
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,360
Speaker 5: Ionie's Medicare number had been stolen and used by company

467
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 5: to fraudulently enroll her in hospice care, which she obviously

468
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 5: didn't need. That MENIONI had.

469
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 2: To think we can move on from the pickleball guys.

470
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: You know, as I sit here listening to this, it

471
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 1: now makes perfect sense why they went so nuts in

472
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 1: Minnesota when we started figuring out the fraud that was

473
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: going on there with the daycarees and the schools and

474
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 1: all that business. Because this is such big business that

475
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 1: if we figure out what's going on, not just in Minnesota,

476
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: but around the country. It's game over for them.

477
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 5: That MENIONI had no coverage and no easy way of

478
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 5: getting unenrolled from hospice. Obviously this was a major household.

479
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 5: Lots of phone calls, lots of paperwork. What were the

480
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 5: medical consequences?

481
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Speaker 6: I was terrified. I mean, you know, at something can happen.

482
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 6: That's why you have health insurance of any kind. And

483
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 6: just to thank you, literally without coverage because of some ridiculous,

484
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 6: fraudulent thing.

485
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 5: My name is Adam Yamaguchm with CBS News. A CBS

486
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 5: News investigation found an industry ripe for fraud, especially in California.

487
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 2: Well, California is number one and a lot.

488
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 1: And keep in mind, this is a state that loves

489
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: to regulate you to death. It doesn't matter what it

490
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 1: is that you do they want to say in it.

491
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 1: Yet they allow this to go on.

492
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, are we surprised at all? This is

493
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 2: the same state that sent out thirty billion dollars in

494
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 2: fraudulent unemployment checks in twenty twenty and only some of

495
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 2: that money went to those steakhouses in Vegas.

496
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 1: Oh. I saw that with my own two Eyes.

497
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 5: Companies accused of overbilling real patients denied care and it's

498
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 5: costing hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars. The hospice Ione

499
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 5: was fraudulently enrolled in it's called Fortuna. When we called,

500
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 5: no one answered.

501
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 1: Because why would they.

502
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,199
Speaker 2: A good majority of this piece is the reporter calling

503
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 2: all these businesses and none of them have a working

504
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 2: phone number, which tells you something that Rob Bonta was

505
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 2: not investigating them, because that would have been a pretty

506
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 2: easy one to figure out.

507
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: No, but you see, he spends all of his time

508
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: suing Donald Trump and going after the card rooms because

509
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 1: he thinks suing Donald Trump will make him popular with

510
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: the Democratic electorate, and going after the card rooms will

511
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: make him popular with the Indians who finance his campaigns.

512
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: But this is what he's supposed to do with his power.

513
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: This is what that office is supposed to be in

514
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: charge of finding this kind of waste, fraud and abuse.

515
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 2: Did I call him rob My bad Bonta?

516
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 7: The bilbox is pulling any messages at this time.

517
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 5: The State of California increase monitoring of the boy.

518
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 2: That gives me some throwbacks to a person I used

519
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 2: to work for that would always complain that you didn't

520
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 2: call him, and then when you try to call him,

521
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 2: it would go straight to a voicemail that was full.

522
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,959
Speaker 1: The state of think, I know who you're talking about.

523
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 2: We don't have to go any further than that.

524
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 5: The state of California increase monitoring of the hospice industry

525
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,959
Speaker 5: four years ago, identifying the hallmarks of fraud. For Tuna

526
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 5: has two of them, and it's hardly alone.

527
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 2: So California put a moratorium on new companies applying to

528
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 2: b hospice, and they say they were going to crack

529
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 2: down and all the existing hospice companies, which there are

530
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 2: so many of these, it's unbelievable, especially all within this

531
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 2: three mile stretch of Victory Boulevard. But even though they

532
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 2: put out guidelines of here are the signs that these

533
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 2: are fraudulent companies, most of the ones that CBS News

534
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 2: investigated had plenty of the signs that they were scams,

535
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 2: yet they were still legally operating in the state of.

536
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: Calif I'm surprised. They just had full mailboxes and there

537
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: was no ability to leave a message, because if you

538
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: think about it, if they just put a little bit

539
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: of effort into it. They could have a message that says,

540
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: we'd love to pick up the phone right now, but

541
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: we're sorry. Agnes just flatlined.

542
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 4: Oh boy.

543
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 5: CBS News analyzed every hospice licensed to La County, more

544
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 5: than seventeen hundred and checked for the same warning signs

545
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 5: the state used.

546
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 2: I know La County is a big county, but that

547
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 2: should tell you right there something's wrong that there are

548
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 2: seventeen hundred licensed hospice facilities, you'd think, and.

549
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 5: Checked for the same warning signs the state used, like

550
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 5: multiple hospices packed into one building, or caregivers whose patients

551
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 5: supposedly at Death's Store are discharged alive. Three years after

552
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 5: the state crackdown, which included a moratorium on new hospice licenses,

553
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 5: our investigation found more than forty percent of agencies still

554
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 5: show at least three of these state defined indicators of

555
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 5: potential fraud.

556
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 2: So the crackdown wasn't much of a crackdown. No, no

557
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 2: one's looking at them at all.

558
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 5: So Victory Boulevard seems to be a hotbed of Yeah,

559
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 5: you can't throw a rock without hitting a hospice.

560
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: Oh poor valley, which leads you to believe that it's

561
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: a cadre of people who are all doing it in

562
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: cahoots with one another, if they're all using the same addresses.

563
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 5: She La Clark, a hospice patient advocate, took us to

564
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 5: what she described as the ground zero for hospice fraud,

565
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 5: a three mile stretch of Los Angeles that's home to

566
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 5: nearly five hundred hospice company offices. There's one hospice here

567
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 5: that hits all six of California's red flags of possible fraud.

568
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 7: Well, there's no hospice there.

569
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 5: Legal office, yeah, with a ton of mail.

570
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 2: G yeat. None of these are even doctor's offices, let

571
00:31:55,320 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 2: alone paces where patients are dying. They're just empty office buildings.

572
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 5: Ton of male. Just look at this.

573
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 2: This agency Van Eys is such a weird place. You

574
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 2: get your three mile stretch of hospices all on this

575
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 2: one stretch of Victory Boulevard, and then you go the

576
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 2: other direction up and down Van Ey's Boulevard and it's

577
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 2: a three mile stretch of bail bondsmen.

578
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: Is there a big Somali community in Van Eyes?

579
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 2: No?

580
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 5: A ton of male just cutting look at this. This

581
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 5: agency VML hit every fraud indicator in our analysis and

582
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 5: build Medicare roughly forty nine thousand dollars propation, about three

583
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 5: and a half times the national average.

584
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 7: They need their curative treatment, they need their their you know,

585
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 7: they just they need to be taken care of. They

586
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 7: need to know that they can get what they need

587
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 7: when they need it, not hit a roadblock because somebody's

588
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 7: scammed them.

589
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you were denied medical coverage that you're paying

590
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 2: for because your identity was stolen in the medicare world,

591
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 2: that's a huge problem.

592
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 1: For whatever reason, the government doesn't regard it as a

593
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: huge problem, though. People should go to prison if they

594
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: do that to someone. The number you've down is not

595
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: in service, of course, because why would it be.

596
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 5: Clark tells us when offices like these close abruptly, it's

597
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,239
Speaker 5: real patients in desperate need who pay the price. How

598
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 5: does that make you feel, as somebody who deals with

599
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 5: patients who need this.

600
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,959
Speaker 7: Sad, really sad, because I talk to them every day.

601
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, I can't.

602
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 5: I wonder how they can go for a full year

603
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 5: and still not have their license revoked. That is that

604
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:34,479
Speaker 5: a systemic failure.

605
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 8: We need to be responsive to the red flags.

606
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 2: Hey it's Bobby.

607
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, with more buckets of cliches, Bob Bonta.

608
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 5: I wonder how they can go for a full year

609
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 5: and still not have their license revoked. That is that

610
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 5: a systemic failure.

611
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 8: We need to be responsive to the red flags and

612
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 8: react to them, not just count them, but do something,

613
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 8: take action. Our mainland is the accountability side, the criminal investigations,

614
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 8: civil investigations.

615
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 2: That's after that.

616
00:33:58,680 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 8: That damage is done, though.

617
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 5: State Attorney General Rob BoNT Okay, So why aren't you

618
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 5: doing anything about it?

619
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: You were the guy at the top of the pyramid.

620
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: You are the attorney general, You're in charge of the

621
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: California Department of Justice. Why are you wasting your time

622
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:19,959
Speaker 1: suing Trump forty five times from Sunday instead of doing this.

623
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 2: It doesn't look good when an investigative reporter from CBS

624
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 2: News can literally hand the top cop in California a

625
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 2: list of fraudulent businesses that still have their licenses.

626
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 5: State Attorney General Rob Bonta says his author.

627
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no no no. You know, I

628
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,439
Speaker 2: don't want to fact check CBS News, but I'm going

629
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 2: to have to do it here. That's not his name,

630
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:44,760
Speaker 2: bought Bonta.

631
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: There we go.

632
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:49,760
Speaker 5: State Attorney General Rob Bontas.

633
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 2: Wait, hold on, Rob, you know maybe I just fixed

634
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 2: this for them and then I could send it back

635
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 2: to them, because i don't want anybody accusing this great

636
00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 2: piece of CBS for being fake news. So I'm going

637
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,479
Speaker 2: to fix it with a little help from.

638
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 5: Leanne State Attorney General.

639
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: All better now.

640
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 5: State Attorney General hot Bonta says office has brought hospice

641
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 5: fraud criminal cases against one hundred and nine defendants at

642
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 5: about two dozen civil cases. What would you say to

643
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 5: citizens who are throwing up their hands and saying, how

644
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 5: long is this.

645
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 4: Going to persist?

646
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 5: Is my government doing anything to protect my tax payer dollars?

647
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 8: Again? I share it. I have the frustration. So to

648
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,240
Speaker 8: the citizens that remain frustrated, I understand. I share your frustration.

649
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 1: Cliche cliche, I'm just not doing anything about it because

650
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:38,720
Speaker 1: I'm wasting my time on other things.

651
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 8: Please know that we have increased our efforts. We're working

652
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 8: over time on prevention and on accountability, and we will

653
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 8: continue until hospice fraud in California is rooted out.

654
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 5: CBS News.

655
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 2: Nobody's buying what Bobby's selling you that.

656
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: That is a hollow statement.

657
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 5: CBS News reached out to the almost sixty hospices that

658
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 5: have five or more flags. Many numbers were just connected

659
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 5: or went straight to voicemail representatives that some others denied

660
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:08,240
Speaker 5: any fraud and said they run legitimate hospices with real patients.

661
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 5: Back in Van Eys, we tried the hospice right next

662
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 5: door to VML. We knocked, then called during the posted

663
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 5: business hours.

664
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Speaker 2: You can't leave the message because the person who called

665
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 2: hasn't points fail.

666
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 5: Lot has been set up yet.

667
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: That sounds legitimate.

668
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 5: Wow, we couldn't reach anyone, and we'd soon realize these

669
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 5: operations may be connected, part of what advocates describe as

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Speaker 5: a web of hospice agencies that come and go but

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Speaker 5: continues submitting a steady stream of bills to taxpayers, whether

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Speaker 5: the patients are dying or like IONI are still out

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Speaker 5: playing pickleball.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we really did not need to end the piece

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Speaker 2: with pickleball, but there you go. That is the incredible

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Speaker 2: investigative work being done by CBS News. The ground zero

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Speaker 2: for hospice fraud is in Los Angeles, California.

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Speaker 1: In theory, all real hospices should have someone answering the

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Speaker 1: phone at all times because if you have a relative

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Speaker 1: in there and you want to find out how they're doing,

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Speaker 1: in theory, that information should be communicated to you. It's

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Speaker 1: a life and death situation. Yet none of them had

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Speaker 1: working phones. Unreal. Eight hundred two two two five two

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Speaker 1: two two is a telephone number one eight hundred two

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Speaker 1: two two five two two two. If you'd like to

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Speaker 1: email the show, you can do so at johnny don't

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Speaker 1: like show at gmail dot com. That's Johnny don't like

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Speaker 1: show at gmail dot com. And Randy eremonitor in the

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Speaker 1: mail bag.

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Speaker 2: Well, here's one that comes from Rod at Johnny don't

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Speaker 2: like show at gmail dot com. The story you're talking

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Speaker 2: about right now happened to me. I was in a

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Speaker 2: Tarzana rehab on Receiva Boulevard. I was discharged and a

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Speaker 2: few days ago when I went to change my primary

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Speaker 2: care doctor, they still had me shown is under hospice

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Speaker 2: care six months after my release. This is really common.

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Speaker 1: It really is