1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: And we continue at two five in the afternoon on 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: The John Phillips Show, broadcasting live from Sacramento. Mister Randy 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: wags in Culver City. 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 2: Well, it's finally time for the battle between the Unions 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 2: and Gavin Newsom to go full steam. Gavin Newsom wants 6 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 2: everyone to return to the office four days a week 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 2: on July first, and the Unions have said hell no. 8 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: And now the legislature is looking to pass a bill 9 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 2: that would derail Gavin's plans. 10 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: Well, I could tell you this. I rolled into town 11 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 1: yesterday just a little after quitting time. It took I 12 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 1: think two and a half or three hours to get 13 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: here from Fresno. And when I got here, downtown Sacramento 14 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: was abandoned. There was nothing going on, and the legislature 15 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: is in session. They're doing the budget right now. So 16 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: in theory, you should have a lot lot of people 17 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: in downtown Sacramento, and that just wasn't the case. I 18 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: went for a walk this morning around seven point thirty 19 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: eight o'clock, right around the time that you would assume 20 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: that people would be getting to the office or getting 21 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: their Starbucks or finishing up at the gym. There wasn't 22 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: a whole lot going on down here. There are buildings 23 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: in downtown Sacramento that are humongous sky rises that, according 24 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: to the people I've talked to, are filled with empty 25 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: office space. So I guess a lot of people are 26 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: not working at the office in Sacramento, and it is 27 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 1: impacting a lot of the businesses, a lot of the restaurants, 28 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: a lot of the bars, a lot of the coffee 29 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: places right here in the heart of town because they 30 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: don't have the foot traffic that they used to have. 31 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: Well, then repurpose those buildings, convert them into much needed housing. 32 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 2: But I hate the idea that you have to send 33 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 2: all the States employees who've been working remotely for the 34 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 2: last six years back to work so the sandwich shop 35 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 2: stays in business. 36 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: You know, one of the buildings that I ran across today, 37 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,679 Speaker 1: the edd Building, Oh boy, remember them? 38 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 2: Oh you mean the organization that sent out thirty billion 39 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 2: dollars possibly more in twenty twenty of fraudulent unemployment checks. 40 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: That building, Oh boy, eight hundred two two two five 41 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: two two two is a telephone number? What eight hundred 42 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: two to two two five two two two. As Randy mentioned before, 43 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: it's not just new York City that is exploring the 44 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: idea of government run grocery stores. So is the city 45 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: by the Bay. 46 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: San Francisco is trying to figure out what to do 47 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 2: about certain neighborhoods that have become food deserts, which is 48 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 2: a term that means that there's no real grocery store 49 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 2: near you. Maybe there's a corner store, maybe there's a 50 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: liquor store, but there's not a place within walking or 51 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,679 Speaker 2: driving or transit distance to get you some fresh produce. 52 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 2: So one of the ideas being floated by Belal mah Mood, 53 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 2: the supervisor of the Tenderloin, is taxing big grocery store 54 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 2: companies that close their businesses but are keeping the lease 55 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 2: on an empty building because they don't want a competitor 56 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 2: to move in, and maybe using some of that money 57 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 2: to have a publicly funded grocery store. 58 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: This is so stupid. If you want grocery stores in 59 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: your town, then you have to make life miserable for 60 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: retail thieves. If people can go steal from grocery stores 61 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: and get away with it, and the grocery store knows 62 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: that there's no point in even calling the cops. The 63 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: clock is ticking as to when that grocery store is 64 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: going to close down, and guess what, none of their 65 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: competitors are to want to move in because they're going 66 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: to get robbed. 67 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 2: Two for more on this, we got a kpix in 68 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 2: the Bay. 69 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 3: Like gas, The price of groceries has also been a 70 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 3: hot button issue for many Americans, with inflation at a 71 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 3: three year high. Then, adding to that, several chain grocery 72 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 3: stores have closed across San Francisco, leaving many residents in 73 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:21,799 Speaker 3: a food desert. 74 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 2: Arsugenom on a pan of medication desert because a lot 75 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 2: of Walgreens have closed that too. 76 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 3: Rsugienam on one city leader's new plan to open new 77 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 3: stores and make food more affordable. 78 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 4: Daldoz is one of the only places in the tenderline 79 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 4: that I'm able to go to, and it's quite amazing 80 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 4: because ten years ago this didn't exist. It was an 81 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 4: entire liquor store, and I was able to convert. 82 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 5: San Francisco District five Supervisor bilolmock Mood is a familiar 83 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 5: face at Dalda's community market, grabbing fresh produce and groceries 84 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 5: after work, and he's fighting for more local. 85 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 4: The we're facing food deserts across the city where zombie 86 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 4: stores are popping up. 87 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 2: Well, why do you think there are so many zombie 88 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 2: stores in the Tenderloin? Could it be the zombie constituents. 89 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: Which is the majority of his constituents. 90 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 4: Where zombie stores are popping up, Where large shane grocery 91 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 4: stores and pharmacy buildings are going empty, and those corporations 92 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 4: are holding the property, paying thousands of dollars of rent 93 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 4: and just a block competition from coming in. 94 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 2: Is that really happening though? If a Walgreen's closes, are 95 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 2: they holding the least so CBS doesn't move in? 96 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I would like to talk to 97 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 1: someone in that world to find out if that's true. 98 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,239 Speaker 1: Because if you couldn't make money in a location because 99 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,679 Speaker 1: retail theft was so high, why in the world would 100 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: you care if your competitors ended up taking that space. 101 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 2: If you are the owner of the shuttered Safeway, are 102 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 2: you really trying to make sure the trader Joe doesn't 103 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 2: move in? 104 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 5: No, those so called zombie stores are part of the 105 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 5: reason Mahmud introduced the Affordable Groceries Act, a package of 106 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 5: legislation which includes two measures. 107 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 6: He's hoping we'll get on the November ballot. 108 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 2: Boy, We're going to be voting on so many weird 109 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 2: things this year. 110 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: So many stupid destructive things. 111 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 5: The first measure would tax large chain grocers who have 112 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 5: closed but are holding onto the property, which would create 113 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 5: revenue or create available space, make it. 114 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 4: Easier to open more stores in these vacant lots with 115 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 4: permit streamlining, but also with tax incentives as well. Charge 116 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 4: an abandoned pharmacy and grocery tax on those large chain corporations. 117 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 2: How many abandoned pharmacies and grocery stores are we talking about? 118 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: That? 119 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 2: You need to have legislation for this, okay? 120 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: And can they just walk away from these leases or 121 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: is there time left on the lease and they just 122 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: don't want to pay a huge amount of money one 123 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 1: sum to get out of it. 124 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 4: That are holding these. 125 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 2: Well, they should do what Westfield did with the San 126 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 2: Francisco Center mall and just say we're getting out of 127 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 2: this lease. We can't afford it. 128 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: But what happens though, Let's say you signed a three 129 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: year lease and a year and a half into it, 130 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: you decide there's too much retail theft and you can't 131 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: make money there. So there's a year and a half 132 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: on the lease. Unless the landlord lets you out of 133 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: the lease, you still have to pay it. 134 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 2: Correct, I would think so. 135 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 4: That are holding these properties vacant to block competition. 136 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 5: The second measure would create what Malmut calls an affordable 137 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 5: grocery fund, which would be filled by money. 138 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:41,239 Speaker 6: From the tax. 139 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 2: Maybe all these grocery stores that went out of business, 140 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 2: They're like, we're holding onto these properties because we don't 141 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 2: want Airwan expanding to San Francisco. 142 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 5: The second measure would create what Mamout calls an affordable 143 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 5: grocery fund, which would be filled by money from the 144 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 5: tax and potentially private donations. Says it would not only 145 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 5: create a fund where the city can buy vacant buildings 146 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 5: and lease them cheaply to grocers, it would also cap 147 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 5: markups on groceries. 148 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 2: This is the Mamdanni plan, the ma Mood Mamdanni plan. 149 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: So what this is is it's creating an opportunity for 150 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: another NGO, and you're going to make some other thief rich. 151 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 2: And I'm sure it will be some nonprofit organization that 152 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 2: takes the unemployable. We tried to hire them as ambassadors. 153 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 2: Now we're going to hire them as bag boys. 154 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 6: It would also cap markups on groceries. 155 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 7: It could even. 156 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: Potentially use them. 157 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 2: Wait, what does that mean? 158 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: I have no clue. 159 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 2: Does that mean that even if the cost of transporting 160 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 2: the mayonnaise from the distribution center to the supermarket goes up, 161 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 2: that the supermarket cannot raise those costs or they can't 162 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 2: raise them beyond that because I don't know how we 163 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 2: got to seven dollars mayonnaise. 164 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like this is going to work out 165 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: just fine. 166 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 2: It would also keep mark the whole way that grocery 167 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 2: stores work. Some grocery stores are different, like Trader Joe's, 168 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 2: but a lot of grocery stores operate on a consignment 169 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 2: where the vendor only makes money if their product is bought. 170 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 2: It's so strange. Walmart is like that. Walmart just rent 171 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 2: space out. 172 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 6: It would also cap markups on groceries. 173 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 4: It could even potentially use the fund to go after 174 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 4: things like what. 175 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 2: Do you think Walmart? And I know it's a big organization, 176 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 2: but do you think they have the highest per capita 177 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 2: of customers that walk around those aisles with one of 178 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 2: those claw grabber things? They could just seems like a 179 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 2: very Walmart thing to me. 180 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 6: It would also cap markups on groceries. 181 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 4: It could even potentially use the fund to go after 182 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 4: things like what Mayor Mum Donnie is doing in New York, 183 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 4: where the city can buy the property and then turn 184 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 4: lease it out to affordable grocery operators that charge the 185 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 4: same price to every San Francisco. 186 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 5: Sott Wnder Moltawi, the co owner of doll Thos Community Market, says, 187 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 5: if passed, the bill would help provide more food accessibility. 188 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 2: Couldn't we also, I don't know if we need more 189 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 2: open space to you know, rent at a low price 190 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 2: to some non profit markets. Couldn't we shut down all 191 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 2: those markets in the Tenderloin that are selling drugs? 192 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 1: That would be a good idea. 193 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 4: There is no such a big, grossy stores around here 194 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 4: because I. 195 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 8: Think is the is the center of the downtown. That's 196 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 8: why they trying to help. 197 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 4: The small businesses to have more produce and more of 198 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 4: the more of the stuff. 199 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 5: Mack Mood ads that in his district four liquor stores 200 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 5: have converted into a community market. Now he's looking to 201 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 5: do more for the entire city. 202 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 2: Well, if that's already happening without these laws, then what 203 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 2: do you need this law. 204 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: For Yeah, just let them flourish. 205 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 4: Our comprehensive solution to address affordable foods in San Francisco. 206 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 5: Ma Mood says he's gained support from food justice groups 207 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 5: and labor unions and is fighting for a positive future 208 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 5: where food is not only more accessible, but more affordable 209 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 5: for every San Franciscan. 210 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 2: Define affordable because Trader Joe's is always cheap and there's 211 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 2: plenty of those. 212 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: And if you think that the government is going to 213 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: hold costs down, you're crazy. How many taxes did they 214 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 1: just raise in the last election, a whole lot, especially 215 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 1: in La County. Now, to their credit, San Franciscan said 216 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: no to that overpaid CEO tax, and even Oaklanders said 217 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: hell no to Measure E. LA right now is the 218 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: outlier and the people dumb enough to continue to keep 219 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: taxing themselves. So it's not necessarily a foregone conclusion that 220 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 1: San Francisco, if this gets on the ballot, then it 221 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: would even pass. 222 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 3: So the Board of Supervisors will discuss this legislation next month. 223 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 3: If it passes out of committee, it may end up 224 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 3: on the ballot in November. 225 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 2: So there you go, the idea to tax and I 226 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 2: don't know how big of a problem this is. But 227 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 2: big corporations that closed their grocery store think Safeway or 228 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 2: their pharmacy, think Walgreens. But they're holding on to an 229 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 2: empty building and tax them so the building cannot be 230 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 2: empty or use that money to fund a public grocery store. 231 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: And they want to do all of this instead of 232 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: cracking down on retail theft, so that the big corporations 233 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: want to come in and open up a shop in 234 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: their community. So that's what's going on in San Francisco. Meanwhile, 235 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, a big time labor leader has been 236 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: accused of stealing from his own union. 237 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 2: It was a union guy representing one of the fire 238 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 2: department unions, and he took out thousands and thousands and 239 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 2: thousands of dollars. He had a gambling problem. 240 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: Uh oh. 241 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 2: For more on this here is Kate Tla. 242 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 5: Just a short time ago, California Attorney General Rob Bonte 243 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 5: and La County District Attorney Nathan Hafkman held a news 244 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 5: conference to announce charges against a former labor organization official. 245 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 2: He's charged with stealing money from a nonprofit that was 246 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 2: supposed to help injured firefighters. 247 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,599 Speaker 1: KTLA Jennifer McGraw joins us live in studio with those details. 248 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 2: Good morning, jin. 249 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 9: Ohmar and Lauren, Good morning. Adam Walker was arrested around 250 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 9: seven this morning after at lengthy investigation that allegesc he 251 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 9: stole more than eighty thousand dollars from the Firefighter nonprofit 252 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 9: and used it for online gambling. 253 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: Whatever I find out that someone got in trouble for 254 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: too much gambling, I always want to know what games 255 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: they were playing, and I hope to god it's not 256 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: Bacca Rot or Ultimate X Poker or The Buffalo. 257 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 2: Well, if we're talking online, that makes me think that 258 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 2: we're talking sports wagering. Our guess. Now, with Calshi, you 259 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 2: can on pretty much anything, but if it's online gambling, 260 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 2: it's something he's doing in his pocket. Maybe that's poker, 261 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 2: but I don't even know if you can do online 262 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 2: poker games on your phone right now. 263 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you can't. You can play anything. You can 264 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: play poker, you can play hot pots, you can play 265 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: Huff and Puff. You can play those with money right now. 266 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: You can play Huff and more Puff. 267 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 2: So you've got one heck of a sense of willpower 268 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 2: if you could be playing poker while doing the show. 269 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 2: And you're not good for you. 270 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: Well, I do it on my phone, not for money, 271 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: just for fun, and I had to stop doing it 272 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: because I kept draining my battery. 273 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 2: At what point do you actually memorize all the possible 274 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 2: plays that you can do on Ultimate ex Poker? 275 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: Well, you know what I do. I take pictures of 276 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: my screen and then I plug it into GROCK and 277 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: I ask GROC what is the best play here? If 278 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: it's something I don't know, oh boy. 279 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 9: And used it for online gambling his RV mortgage payments, 280 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 9: amongst several other transactions. Walker is the former secretary of UFLAK. 281 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 9: He was removed from office following a forensic audit by 282 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 9: the International Association of Firefighters. 283 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 2: By the way, you, FLAK is the organization that's getting 284 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 2: their own sales tax measure on the ballot. The money 285 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 2: to bail out the fire department will be on the 286 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 2: November ballot. 287 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: Great. 288 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 9: At the end of twenty twenty four, Ponta says Walker 289 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 9: opened a Foundation Bank account, naming himself as a soul signer, 290 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 9: and then use that account to transfer Foundation funds into 291 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 9: his personal accounts. 292 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, this guy's not that bright. That's very traceable. Not 293 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 2: even like, oh, we put the money into crypto, and 294 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 2: then you have no idea where it goes. Now I 295 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 2: just started wiring money to myself. Well, you're thinking that 296 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 2: this is a well thought out plan. Is this guy's 297 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 2: up until three to four in the morning gambling, losing 298 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 2: everything he has, trying to figure out the next day 299 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 2: how he's going to make the mortgage payment. I got 300 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 2: to imagine if he comes up with a dumb plan 301 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 2: this quickly. It is possible, though I don't know, but 302 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 2: it is definitely possible that he needed to pay a bookie, 303 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 2: and he needed to pay that bookie real quick, or 304 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 2: he was about to lose his thumbs could be. 305 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 9: They found that he attempted to conceal those transfers by 306 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 9: creating false reimbursement records and forged receipts specifically designed to 307 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 9: mislead auditors. He then allegedly used the funds for himself. 308 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 9: They say this case is more than financial loss. It's 309 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 9: about public trust. 310 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 10: And using money that should have otherwise gone to injured 311 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 10: firefighters for his own personal gain. Has been alleged for 312 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 10: online gambling for mortgage payments, for his RV loan payments, 313 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 10: and then falsifying paperwork as has been a ledge to 314 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 10: try and conceal his activities. 315 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 2: Do you think you took that RV to just every 316 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 2: Native casino in the state. 317 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Oh yeah, that RV has spent some time 318 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: in Laughlin too. 319 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 10: This is why criminal law enforcement is so important in 320 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 10: this area. 321 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 9: Both Bonta and Hoffman emphasize that public trust in nonprofit 322 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 9: organizations is key. 323 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 6: Trust plays a. 324 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 9: Critical role in our communities and they depend on the 325 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 9: confidence of donors, members, and the public to carry out 326 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 9: their missions. When somebody is entrusted with managing those resources 327 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 9: to use them for personal gain, that trust erodes and 328 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 9: is underminded. 329 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 2: They busted the trust. 330 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 11: As a result. 331 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 9: As a result, ad Walker has been charged with grand 332 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 9: theft and forgery. 333 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 6: He will be arraigned later today. 334 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 2: So there you go. A union secretary with the firefighters 335 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 2: union still nearly eighty thousand dollars for a whole lot 336 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 2: of things. But obviously we got to lead with online gambling. 337 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: Do you think that guy's on Calshi right now betting 338 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 1: what the jury'll do. 339 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 2: He probably is, and he could probably do some pretty 340 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 2: well on guessing that he is going to be guilty. 341 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 1: It's the Chad and Phillip Show. Eight hundred two two 342 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 1: two five two two two is telephone number one eight 343 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 1: hundred two two two five two two two. If you'd 344 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 1: like to email the show, you can do so at 345 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: Johnny Don't Like Show at gmail dot com. That's Johnny 346 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 1: Don't Like Show at gmail dot com and Randy. 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Eight hundred two two two 370 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 1: five two two two is telephone number one, eight hundred 371 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: two two five two to two. And right now it's 372 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: time to open up the California Crime Blodder. 373 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 2: If cash's gummy, we. 374 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 8: Couldn't make this stuff up if we tried. 375 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: I the hell no, baby boy, let me get up one. 376 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 7: Out of here. 377 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 8: It's the California Crime Blodder. 378 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: And the first edition of today's Blotter involves a case 379 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: of mistaken identity of swords. 380 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 2: A couple in the Bay Area had a home invasion 381 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 2: burglary where not only were their possessions stolen, but their 382 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 2: identity was stolen, and that ended up with them getting 383 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 2: a tax refund taken from the government because the government 384 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 2: says that they owed ten thousand dollars in tolls on 385 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 2: the ninety one Freeway in Orange County. It's again this 386 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 2: couple lives in the not in Riverside or the OC. 387 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 2: For more on this, we go to ABC seven in 388 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 2: the Bay. 389 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 12: I pulled up, there was a cop car. My door 390 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 12: was open, the glass on the door was broke. 391 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 11: Sandy and Terry McGhee were devastated by a burglary at 392 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 11: their Antioch home nine years ago. 393 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 12: And there was glass all over the ground. And I 394 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 12: went upstairs and I opened the door, and that's when 395 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 12: I saw my house was ransacked. They took things out 396 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 12: of the closet. It was all over the floor, they 397 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 12: opened boxes. 398 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 8: We didn't sleep for months. 399 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:39,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it. Has that ever happened to you before? 400 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 2: I have never had my home broken into, but I 401 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 2: got to imagine I would be a mess. It's happened 402 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 2: twice to me, both times at Garden Grove. One time 403 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 2: when we were gone and my bedroom was one of 404 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 2: the rooms had got trashed. And the other time was 405 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 2: a cat burglar when we were all sleep and they 406 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 2: broke in through the front window and stole my dad's car. 407 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 2: They took the keys right off the counter and then 408 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 2: drove the car away. 409 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: It gets into your head and it becomes very hard 410 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: to feel safe in your own home, and even harder 411 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: to go to sleep at night knowing that someone might 412 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: be in your house who's not supposed to be there. 413 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 8: We're up in the night, bumping into each other, check 414 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 8: and making sure the house is safe. 415 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 11: Thieves took jewelry, watches, and a laptop, but most heartbreaking, 416 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 11: a box of family keepsakes. 417 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 12: I remember the feeling of opening that drawer and seeing 418 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 12: that box gone. It was all sentimental stuff to be 419 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,199 Speaker 12: my girl's baby teeth, and my girl's bracelets from when 420 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 12: they were born, and stuff from my dad's funeral, and 421 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 12: all the little prayer cards from his funeral. 422 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 8: You know that's stuff. 423 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 12: It's gone. 424 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 2: It's the burglary who steals that. 425 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 1: What value does that have to anyone other than to 426 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 1: this family? 427 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 2: Just disgusting. 428 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 11: The burglary was hard enough, but it wasn't the end. 429 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 11: Another crime has been quietly unfolding, and they didn't know 430 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 11: it until they filed their taxes last year. 431 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 12: I was really excited was one thousand and fifty two dollars. 432 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 11: The couple was expecting a state tax refund for the 433 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 11: first time in decades. Instead, they got this notice from 434 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 11: the Franchise Tax Board saying their refund had been intercepted 435 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,719 Speaker 11: by an agency they never heard of, the Orange County 436 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 11: Transportation Authority. 437 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 2: Surprise, Wait a second, how exactly does a couple from 438 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 2: Antioch run a foul of the Octa? 439 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 1: Well they didn't, but the people who broke into their 440 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: home did. 441 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 11: The Orange County Transportation Authority. What they discovered was shocking. 442 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 12: They told me one hundred and sixty one citations over 443 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 12: ten thousand dollars. 444 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 1: Can you imagine what a nightmare it'll be to get 445 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: that mixed? 446 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 2: So somebody who stole the identities of these people, somehow 447 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 2: we're able to get I'm not even sure how this works, 448 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 2: but every single time they went on the express lanes 449 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 2: of the ninety one Freeway, this couple got the bill. 450 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 2: That is wild. 451 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 11: The agency claimed Terry had been driving his car here 452 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 11: in the ninety one express lanes for years without paying tolls. 453 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 11: But the McGee say that was impossible. 454 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 12: I didn't even know what the ninety one Express lane was. 455 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 2: Well, then you have lived a pretty nice life for 456 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 2: a long time if you don't know what the ninety 457 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 2: one is. 458 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: Because let me tell you something, I have spent a 459 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 1: lot of time on that freeway, and it doesn't matter 460 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: what time of day or night you're on it. That 461 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: freeway is as clogged as Rosie O'Donnell's arteries. 462 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 2: The third shot at Rosie this week. 463 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 11: Or where it was. The ninety one is an eighteen 464 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 11: mile stretch of commuter lanes between Riverside and Orange Counties, 465 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 11: four hundred miles away from Antioch. 466 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 12: They told me it was a Cadillac registered to Terry 467 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 12: McGee and he's been driving on the ninety one express 468 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 12: lane and never paid the toll. And I tried to 469 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 12: tell them, we don't live in so cal We live here, 470 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 12: and we were born and raised here. 471 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 8: It's not us. 472 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 12: I mean, I could show you I was at work, 473 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 12: I can show you he was here. 474 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 2: And they don't have the Cadillac. 475 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: Nope, and they don't care either. 476 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,199 Speaker 12: Basically, they said that you could have let someone use 477 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 12: your car. 478 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 2: So this tells you just how comforting it is the 479 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 2: government in California. I got this notice. Let me just 480 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 2: tell you my identity was stolen. Somebody is impersonating me 481 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 2: and using my name to go up and down those 482 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 2: express lanes. Don't buy that. You probably just gave your 483 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 2: car to a friend. 484 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not even going to blame the state 485 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: for this one. Anytime you have a dispute with any 486 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 1: entity and they go, don't worry about it. You can 487 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 1: clear things up with the eight hundred number. Just call 488 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: res That takes you to a black hole where problems 489 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: are just unfixable. I was in Las Vegas not long ago, 490 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: and I was staying at a property where I have 491 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: a card where it takes care of the parking fee. 492 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: You don't have to pay for parking. But those cards 493 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: expire all the time, and you have to go into 494 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: the casino to get the new card because they want 495 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: you to gamble when you're there. And so I pull 496 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: into the casino, I park the car, I go, I 497 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,199 Speaker 1: pay the fee because I don't want to get the 498 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 1: car towed, and I figure, okay, I'm gonna get the 499 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 1: new car that's not expired, show it to the front 500 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: desk and they'll waive. They'll give me a refund. And 501 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 1: they go, oh, no, a third party actually owns the 502 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: parking lot, so you have to call this eight hundred 503 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,959 Speaker 1: number and get everything fit mixed. I call the eight 504 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: hundred number, and of course I get a foreign call center, 505 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,360 Speaker 1: and the problem takes up forty five minutes of my time, 506 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 1: and then they say it's unfixable. You have to scream 507 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: at them and demand that you get someone in the 508 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,479 Speaker 1: United States, and then the problem gets fixed in two minutes. 509 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: But if you think you're going to fix any problem 510 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,479 Speaker 1: by calling the eight hundred number and talking to whoever 511 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: it is that picks up the phone, you're wrong. They 512 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: are paid to tell you that you're wrong and not 513 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: even to listen to your argument. 514 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 12: Basically, they said that you could have let someone use 515 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 12: your car. 516 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 11: Then Sandy were called. Six years ago a Sam Bernardino 517 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 11: Sheriff's detective told them a man used Terry's driver's license 518 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 11: to buy two cars. She realized that man must have 519 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,360 Speaker 11: racked up the fines and so. 520 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 2: The dealer doesn't even check the face to the person 521 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 2: using the license. Boy, there's a lot of due diligence 522 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 2: going on here. She realized that man guarantee that dealership 523 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 2: one non car pro Nope. 524 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 11: She realized that man must have racked up the fines 525 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 11: and started with that burglary. 526 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 12: They took Terry's driver's license, social Security card, they took 527 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 12: my passport and. 528 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 8: Now it's coming back. Now, now I got somebody stealing 529 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 8: who I am. 530 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 12: It's very upsetting to me because I have to relive 531 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 12: it again. 532 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 6: You know, the robbery. 533 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 8: It just brings it all back. 534 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: It's horrible. 535 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 11: Sandy disputed the charges with the. 536 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 1: Transp Way Identity theft should be punished about as severely 537 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: as you punish crime. Someone for crime, because you could 538 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: wreck someone's life over it. You can prevent them from 539 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: being able to leave the country. You can prevent them 540 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: from getting a loan from a bank, you can send 541 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: them bills through the mail, you can have collection services 542 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: come after them. You can wreck someone's entire life and 543 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: financial portfolio if you steal their identity. The reason that 544 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: we're so lax with it is because it's something that 545 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: the illegal aliens frequently do. They have stolen social Security 546 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: numbers and that's how they work and that's how they 547 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: get by. But look at what's going on to these 548 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: two people. Could you imagine living this nightmare and trying 549 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: to untangle. 550 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 10: This not you know, the robbery. 551 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 5: It just brings it all back. 552 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 8: It's horrible. 553 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 11: Sandy disputed the charges with the Transportation Authority, but she 554 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 11: says the agency required her to prove Terry did not 555 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 11: own the car, the problem. They never saw this. 556 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 2: Well, if there was any situation where maybe you want 557 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 2: to take their word for it, it would be what's 558 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 2: going on with this couple? 559 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: No, no, they will be treated like criminals for the 560 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: rest of their life. 561 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 11: They never saw the citations, which were mailed to a 562 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 11: different address for years. 563 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 12: I told them somebody stole our identity, that they they're 564 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 12: the ones that drove through there. 565 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 11: Sandy says. She sent the police report listing the stolen 566 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 11: ident vacation, but no response. She sent it again, along 567 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 11: with an FTC identity, theft report and this DMV letter 568 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 11: flagging the fraud. Still she says, no response. 569 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: What the hell, Octa, come on, get with the program. 570 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 12: And I'm crying on the phone. I'm yelling at these 571 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 12: people that how am I going to prove to you 572 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 12: that that is not us? What do you want? 573 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 2: Oh, this woman is getting victimized over and over and 574 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 2: over and over again, this time by a transit agency. 575 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:33,959 Speaker 6: Oh, well, you need to file a police report. 576 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 11: I already did that, Sandy says. The agency warned it 577 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 11: would garnish all payments the couple gets from the state, 578 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 11: like tax refunds, until the debt was paid. 579 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:44,719 Speaker 5: Well, it was awful. 580 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 12: It was maddening. 581 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 11: Seven on your Side reached out to the transportation authority, 582 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 11: which declined to discuss the case, citing privacy laws, but 583 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 11: we pushed for answers. Seven on your Side told a 584 00:30:55,600 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 11: spokesperson the dispute process seemed to ignore documented identity theft, 585 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 11: treating the couple like violators on the road. Well, someone 586 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 11: listened the transiting. 587 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 2: Once again, the local news gets done what government can't. 588 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: But okay, how screwed up is this? Though? To get 589 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: anything done with any government agency in the state, you 590 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: have to go to the news and you have to 591 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: publicly humiliate them. 592 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 2: That's how the game is played here. It's the only 593 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 2: way to get people to do the right thing. Is Okay, 594 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 2: you're not going to listen to me, Let me get 595 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 2: Stephanie Sierra over here. 596 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 11: The transit agency reviewed the documents and determined Terry was 597 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 11: not the registered owner of that car. 598 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 2: And they could have been viewing the same documents that 599 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 2: the victim sent them over and over and over again, 600 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 2: but they didn't even read the email. 601 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,719 Speaker 1: I wonder what would happen to these people if they 602 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: were to be caught. What kind of jail time would 603 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: they be looking at. What kind of penalties would they 604 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: be looking at? Because look at this chain reaction of 605 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: misery that they created. 606 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 11: And officials dismissed the ten thousand dollars in fines. 607 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 10: They dismissed it all. 608 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:12,719 Speaker 8: And what a relief that is. 609 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 11: A spokesperson tells us in part quote, we encourage people 610 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 11: to contact us if they believe there has been an error. 611 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 2: That's what they did over and over and over again, 612 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 2: and gave you all the evidence showing that you got 613 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 2: the wrong guy, and they ignored all of it. 614 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: They told them that they would garnish their tax refund. 615 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 11: We are always willing to work directly with anyone to 616 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 11: review their concerns. 617 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:36,959 Speaker 1: No, you're not. 618 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 2: Otherwise this wouldn't be a story. 619 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 11: And address issues as appropriate. 620 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 8: Thanks to you, guys. 621 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 2: Why is it so hard for any even Orange County 622 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 2: Transportation agency? Why is it so hard to ever admit 623 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 2: a mistake. We screwed up, We're going to do better. 624 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 2: Why can't anybody do that? 625 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,479 Speaker 1: Because they trained to do the opposite. They are trained 626 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: to tell you that you're wrong. 627 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 10: Thanks to you, guys, it actually got done because this 628 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 10: was not happening. 629 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 11: As for their tax refund. The couple got that back too. 630 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 11: Today we got this all one fifty two dollars stakes 631 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 11: to you guys. 632 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 13: Well, the couple is relieved, but now they're left wondering 633 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 13: if their identities are being used for other illegal acts. 634 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 12: Terry has changed. 635 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: They better hope this guy's not in a childborn. 636 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 13: Terry has changed his driver's license number and may even 637 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 13: change his Social Security number. Note those are drastic measures 638 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 13: that should not be taken lightly. So certainly some uncertainty here, 639 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 13: but relief that ten. 640 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 6: Thousand dollar bill it really is. Thank you, Stephanie. 641 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 2: So once again the local news helping out a couple 642 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 2: that was being completely ignored after they got a ten 643 00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 2: thousand dollars bill for tolls on a freeway that they've 644 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 2: never even heard of in the complete other part of 645 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 2: the state. 646 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: It's the John Phillips Show. All right, it's time to 647 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 1: reopen the California Crime Blodder. 648 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 8: It's happened yet again. 649 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: This Wow, Wow, what's not weird? 650 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,800 Speaker 14: Dun dum dunk dundun dundun. 651 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 8: Dunk reads the Califonia Crime Blodder with John. 652 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: And this edition takes us to Rockland, where a whole 653 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: bunch of tires are getting stolen? Well, how do the 654 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 1: cars get around? 655 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 2: For more on this, we got a Fox forty and 656 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 2: Sacramento Fox forty. 657 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,359 Speaker 1: Serra Cruz is joining us live in the studio here 658 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: at ten SIRA. 659 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 8: What are police telling us about that spike and where? 660 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 13: Well? 661 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:46,359 Speaker 15: Eric? 662 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 14: According to the Rockland Police Department, since January, they have 663 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,919 Speaker 14: seen thirteen separate thefts involving car rims and tires. They say, 664 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 14: when it comes to these types. 665 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 2: Of they're stealing rims. What is this two thousand and four? 666 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: Remember what that happened to Jerry Brown when he was 667 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 1: mayor of Oakland? 668 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they say. 669 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 14: When it comes to these types of crimes, there are 670 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 14: ways drivers can protect their cars and to tur thieves. 671 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 14: No one wants to be a third wheel, but here 672 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 14: in Rockland some drivers are waking up with no wheels 673 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:16,839 Speaker 14: at all. 674 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 7: We have seen an increase in tire thefts, specifically after 675 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 7: market type tires and rems from vehicles. 676 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 14: Lieutenant Greg Johnson, this doesn't seem like the quickest kind 677 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 14: of crime unless you've got the professional drill that the 678 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 14: tire guys have. 679 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 2: How are you loosening the lug nuts without anybody noticing? 680 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,439 Speaker 1: No, you're right before Randy. This is a super old 681 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: school crime. 682 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:52,879 Speaker 7: Tire thefts, specifically after market type tires and rems from vehicles. 683 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 14: Lieutenant Greg Johnson with the Rockland Police Department tells us 684 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 14: lately thieves have been targeting tweoed to cameras and corollas 685 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 14: and hunt a civics and cords with sports trom rims 686 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 14: and tires. 687 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: Suspects are no Nissans, no Ultimus. 688 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 7: Are removing love nuts, taking rims and tires and leaving 689 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 7: the car on the payment with no rims and no tires. 690 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 2: According what are they putting it on blocks? That was 691 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,919 Speaker 2: happening in the Beverly Grove earlier a couple of years ago. 692 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 1: Well, if you go back and you watch movies from 693 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 1: the eighties or nineties, the hallmark of a bad neighborhood 694 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 1: as you see cars on blocks all over the place. 695 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 14: According to Lockhorns LC, a car security company, criminals on 696 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 14: the hunt for wheels to steal generally go for these 697 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 14: popular makes and models because demand is high, so they're 698 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:43,720 Speaker 14: easy to flip and sell. 699 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,240 Speaker 2: Wait, where are you selling the tires? 700 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 1: It's got to be Oddline or places like the Tenderloin. 701 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:56,760 Speaker 1: I guess who's buying a tire on eBay? That seems 702 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 1: real strange. 703 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 15: Since January of this year, we've had thirteen different thefts 704 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 15: associated with stealing rems and tires, and of those thirteen 705 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 15: seemed like a majority of them were apartment complexes, but 706 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 15: it wasn't universal. 707 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 14: Police confirm these stuffs most often happen overnight or in 708 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,720 Speaker 14: the early morning, Jensen adding, these suspects are generally looking 709 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 14: for convenience, So there are ways to protect your wheels. 710 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 2: Do that by well, if you have a certain class 711 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 2: of car, your car has a wheel lock, and then 712 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 2: you take your car to get your tires rotated, and 713 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 2: you forget that you have a wheel lock, and they're like, 714 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 2: I can't get your tires off to your wheels. 715 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 7: Do that by locking your love nuts, park your car 716 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 7: in the garage. If not, then parking whe lit areas 717 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 7: and park and what. 718 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 2: If they stole the copper wires so there is no 719 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 2: well lit area. 720 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,799 Speaker 1: Well, keep in mind the government in California doesn't want 721 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 1: us in single family homes. They want us living in 722 00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,360 Speaker 1: apartment buildings where the criminals have access to things like 723 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: rims and tires. 724 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 7: Parking well lit areas and park in places where there's 725 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 7: video surveillance, suspects are obviously they're looking for these things. 726 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 7: They're looking for easy targets, So don't be an easy target. 727 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,399 Speaker 14: Johnson says this trend is not specific to Rockland. Here, 728 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 14: just anyone who becomes a victim of this type of 729 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 14: crime to immediately report it to your local police department's 730 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 14: non emergency line. 731 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,759 Speaker 2: Eric, don't drive over there because you don't have wheels. 732 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,479 Speaker 1: Well, and how often do we hear from people when 733 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: something like this happens and they have it on video 734 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 1: and they go to the cops and they go, do 735 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 1: you want the video? And the cops go, yeah, we 736 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:40,320 Speaker 1: don't want the video. 737 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 14: Eric, Nikki back to you, Sierra, thank you. 738 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 2: So there you go. In Rockland, lots and lots and 739 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:52,280 Speaker 2: lots of sets of tires and rims are getting stolen 740 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 2: out of cars in apartment building parking lots. 741 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 1: All right, Well, tomorrow is Juneteenth, that I know, that's 742 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,839 Speaker 1: a holiday for a lot of federal employees, people who 743 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,759 Speaker 1: work at banks, that sort of thing. We are going 744 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 1: to be here. There will be a live show tomorrow 745 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 1: on Friday. 746 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:15,399 Speaker 2: The hell sag after. This isn't a holiday to the nineteenth. 747 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 2: What am I paying those union does for? Yes, we'll 748 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 2: be live tomorrow from noon to three, so join us, 749 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 2: all right, We'll see you then