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Speaker 2: Let's talk some Giants ball and maybe some hockey too
Speaker 2: with our next aguesst John Morossi joins us on the
Speaker 2: umacat side to see him on the MLB Network and
Speaker 2: the NHL Network. What network don't you see him on?
Speaker 2: You hear him on KNBR right now? John, Great to
Speaker 2: have you man, appreciate you making time for us today.
Speaker 3: How are you doing? Great? Adam and Derek.
Speaker 4: Always great to be on the air in the great
Speaker 4: city of San Francisco, especially with the Tigers playing the Giants.
Speaker 4: How about that twenty twelve World Series rematch? Tell you
Speaker 4: what the Tigers are playing pretty good baseball right now,
Speaker 4: somewhat surprisingly after trading Trek Scougle.
Speaker 3: Should be a fun weekend of baseball there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, baseball, the American League get in particular, is so weird,
Speaker 2: and you know, trying to figure out which teams were
Speaker 2: buyers which teams were sellers, because you know, with the
Speaker 2: expanded playoffs, so many teams. You could have said, like
Speaker 2: twenty one to twenty two teams were in the mix
Speaker 2: around deadline time. The Giants, though one of the true sellers,
Speaker 2: moved six players. I mean, I don't remember a time
Speaker 2: in my lifetime the Giants have done anything like that
Speaker 2: being true sellers to the point of that many players
Speaker 2: moving off of the twenty six man roster. When you
Speaker 2: talk to people around baseball, do other front offices view
Speaker 2: with the Giants? Did it the deadline as a rebuild,
Speaker 2: a reset, or something that can completely turn around, be
Speaker 2: it in the future or quickly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a great question because when you look at
Speaker 4: a couple things. Number One, you're in the National League West, right,
Speaker 4: so you've got this behemoth at the top of the
Speaker 4: division that's going nowhere regardless of whatever the rules of
Speaker 4: the game are. When we next convene with labor relations,
Speaker 4: the Dodgers will still be the Dodgers, right So I
Speaker 4: think that it was the prudent approach. As hard as
Speaker 4: it was, and I was listening to some of Buster's
Speaker 4: comments there before the break, As hard as that decision
Speaker 4: was to make, it was the right decision. They there
Speaker 4: was no path for them to get into the upper
Speaker 4: echelon of this division right now, and especially not when
Speaker 4: you're trailing behind both the d Backs and the pod
Speaker 4: Rays by a considerable margin. So recognize where you're at,
Speaker 4: lean into that a little bit, and then move the
Speaker 4: guys that you can move without changing too much of
Speaker 4: who you are.
Speaker 3: And I think that's a fine line. But the Giants did.
Speaker 4: ITAs obviously was getting later on in his tenure, and
Speaker 4: by the way, that's a good It's a good job
Speaker 4: by the Giants to bring in a player that I
Speaker 4: never understand why he's not valued more highly by the marketplace,
Speaker 4: and then he comes in, works with Wash, gets better
Speaker 4: and and so there's a lot of really good things
Speaker 4: happening there that I hope that everybody around the industry says,
Speaker 4: you know what, San Francisco is a good place to go.
Speaker 4: We all know what an amazing baseball city is and
Speaker 4: what a place it is in general, and so go
Speaker 4: go there, work with the coaching staff there, you get better,
Speaker 4: and it's a place that where you can either eventually
Speaker 4: win there or like, that's a good outcome. Okay, he's
Speaker 4: he's a respected player. People, people know this guy, respect
Speaker 4: them like him. When good players who have respect go
Speaker 4: to your team, play well, and even if they move on,
Speaker 4: it's good for the brand, so to speak. And when
Speaker 4: we've talked a lot in the last few years about Okay,
Speaker 4: how many players are going to sign with the Giants, Well.
Speaker 3: This is a good outcome, so celebrate that.
Speaker 4: And then I think, also, you didn't have to trade
Speaker 4: Logan Web to bring back some value. Obviously you did
Speaker 4: trade Ray. You know, we'll see how the prospects all
Speaker 4: play out. You know, that's not my area of expertise
Speaker 4: as much you're knowing exactly what these guys all great
Speaker 4: out and do. But it's it seems as though, based
Speaker 4: on those that know the prospect world better than I do,
Speaker 4: that the Giants did pretty well here. And and the
Speaker 4: other thing I like about the way they've brought the
Speaker 4: organization along is when you look at the top rankings
Speaker 4: of their farm system, a lot of middle infielders. Okay,
Speaker 4: those are hard guys to find, and eventually you're gonna
Speaker 4: want some youth at those positions to come up in
Speaker 4: the major leagues.
Speaker 3: And whenever a Damis's contract is up, et cetera.
Speaker 4: You want athletes, you want guys that can play the game,
Speaker 4: and the Giants are doing a better job of developing that.
Speaker 4: I think Eldridge is taking a step. Lee is taking
Speaker 4: a step. So if you're gonna struggle, you might as
Speaker 4: well struggle in a year where you've got this unbeatable
Speaker 4: team at the top of the division. You're not like
Speaker 4: really missing a window here. You just have to retrench
Speaker 4: a little bit.
Speaker 3: Do that.
Speaker 4: And then the big thing is they need Devers to
Speaker 4: be better. Okay, they need Adamas to be better, they
Speaker 4: need Chapman to be healthier. If you were gonna start
Speaker 4: the year and say Devers would would just be okay
Speaker 4: by his standards, a Damas would be below average is
Speaker 4: a major league getter, which is what the numbers say
Speaker 4: is and that Chatman would be hurt. I'd say they're
Speaker 4: in trouble, and they're in trouble. And this is not
Speaker 4: like sometimes we like to over complicate the game. Sometimes
Speaker 4: it's real simple, Like the Mariners cal Rale, he hasn't
Speaker 4: hit this year. Guess what they're struggling in Toronto. Gladdie
Speaker 4: hasn't hit, They're struggling. I mean this is the game
Speaker 4: is both very complicated and sometimes very simple. And and
Speaker 4: the simplicity of the game explains a lot of what
Speaker 4: has befallen the Giants and the Mariners and the Jays
Speaker 4: this season.
Speaker 5: John Bubba Morosi on the Uma guest line's been too long,
Speaker 5: my friend, oh, my old.
Speaker 3: Nickname when I was a kid. Well, well done, Derek.
Speaker 3: But we're we're family. Your dad called me that, like
Speaker 3: we are family. It's all good. I'm happy with that.
Speaker 5: No, absolutely, John, So obviously not a true rebuild at
Speaker 5: the deadline, but uh buster posey there in some of
Speaker 5: the audio we played saying that you know, we let everybody,
Speaker 5: We let baseball know that everybody was on the table.
Speaker 5: So do you happen to know behind the scenes how
Speaker 5: close they were maybe to dealing a Logan Web or
Speaker 5: a Jungku Lee or any of the big time contracts,
Speaker 5: and would they possibly revisit that in the off season.
Speaker 3: That's a great question.
Speaker 4: I don't believe that it was close close like on
Speaker 4: the five yard line's that's a lot of money to move.
Speaker 4: But I will say this that the offseason I think
Speaker 4: becomes very interesting. And this is where we're kind of
Speaker 4: playing three dimensional chess without being able to look at
Speaker 4: the board right now because we don't know what the
Speaker 4: what the rules of the of engagement are going to
Speaker 4: be right with with the CBA, et cetera. And so
Speaker 4: the Giants, though, they are the kind of team that
Speaker 4: you could envision being one that needs to maybe get
Speaker 4: their payroll into compliance if you ever end up seeing
Speaker 4: a salary cap. For example, Devers is making a ton
Speaker 4: of money. Okay, Adamis is making a lot of money.
Speaker 4: Web is making money. But I think the money for
Speaker 4: him is is good. Like he's so important to them,
Speaker 4: he grew up in Rockland. I don't I would not,
Speaker 4: and I don't think that they ever really were close
Speaker 4: to moving him because he's too important. You need you
Speaker 4: need some guys to soak up innings that are part
Speaker 4: of the culture. The Giants, by the way, I think,
Speaker 4: are one of the teams that have gotten that as
Speaker 4: well as almost any other team throughout the years I've
Speaker 4: covered baseball. They understand that there are there are players
Speaker 4: their fans get used to seeing and want to see,
Speaker 4: and that they need to be there.
Speaker 3: And I think Logan Webb is in that category. Lee.
Speaker 3: I'm a big Jungle Lee fan.
Speaker 4: I've watched him play since he was in Korea back
Speaker 4: in I met him in twenty nineteen. Sometime I'll, if
Speaker 4: we have time, in some way, I'll tell you the
Speaker 4: story about meeting him. But great guy, and I think
Speaker 4: he's really gotten more and more familiar with Major League Baseball.
Speaker 4: At the overall situation, he looks more and more comfortable.
Speaker 4: He's a good player for this ballpark. He's a good
Speaker 4: player for the organization, And so I would I would
Speaker 4: not move him.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 4: Would they ever attach a more attractive sort of younger
Speaker 4: player to Devers?
Speaker 3: Maybe? But then all of a sudden, you're saying.
Speaker 4: For another team, wait a minute, you want me to
Speaker 4: be now the third team to have him in this
Speaker 4: fan of like two years, Like, what's what's going on here?
Speaker 4: So I think Devers had whatever has sort of been
Speaker 4: an issue has to get fixed by him where he's
Speaker 4: at before we start talking about additional things that have
Speaker 4: to happen in the future.
Speaker 2: John Mriszky the voice you hear on the Uman guestlin
Speaker 2: and you can see him on our video stream up
Speaker 2: on the sports Leader dot com, the app, and on
Speaker 2: on YouTube right now. So, like, things have been tough
Speaker 2: for Giants fans, and I think we're all assuming it's
Speaker 2: gonna be kind of a tough, you know, last couple
Speaker 2: of months as we get to look at some new
Speaker 2: guys and trying to find some bright spots for the future.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind. I don't think Derek would. If you
Speaker 2: got time, you want to tell us your meeting Jung
Speaker 2: Houlie story.
Speaker 3: So I interviewed him.
Speaker 4: I was on the World Feed broadcast and basically, if
Speaker 4: there's a tournament in the world that that I can
Speaker 4: go broadcast, like sign me up, I'm going.
Speaker 3: So I worked on.
Speaker 4: The world feed of the twenty nineteen premiere twelve. I
Speaker 4: interviewed I interviewed Jung Hu Lee on the field uh
Speaker 4: and I I and before like whenever you know, if
Speaker 4: you know me, I love languages, so I learned how
Speaker 4: to say congratulations and nice to meet you in Korean
Speaker 4: for that particular introduction. The exact words are are not
Speaker 4: coming to me right now, but but just trust that
Speaker 4: I said it at the moment and I felt good
Speaker 4: about it. So I interviewed him. I congratulated him. Of course,
Speaker 4: the story of his dad being this great player, so
Speaker 4: I learned about him well in advance of him coming
Speaker 4: to Major League Baseball. So this is his first week
Speaker 4: as a Giant. They're playing the Dodgers and he's making
Speaker 4: his debut at Dodger Stadium, and I was on I
Speaker 4: was on the broadcast team for that game with with TNT.
Speaker 3: So it was I think it was Brian Anderson, Jeffrankr
Speaker 3: and me.
Speaker 4: And so we're in the We're in the Giants clubhouse
Speaker 4: at Dodger Stadium, saying, you know, you know, going about
Speaker 4: getting our notes and having our meetings. And on the
Speaker 4: way out, I see Jung who again. Now this is
Speaker 4: that I hadn't seen him in like three years.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: The last time I saw him was again like in
Speaker 3: a postgame interview out on the.
Speaker 4: Field in Tokyo. So this is it's been a while, ye.
Speaker 4: And so I walk up to him, and again at
Speaker 4: this point in time, I can like say three things
Speaker 4: in Korean, like hello, nice to meet you, how are you, congratulations,
Speaker 4: like the basics, and so I I walk up to
Speaker 4: him and I say, I think I said congratulations, nice
Speaker 4: to meet you in Korean, and he kind of he
Speaker 4: kind of smiles, and he pulls his interpreter over and
Speaker 4: he and the interpreter then says to me, as relays
Speaker 4: back with John, who said he said Jung who says,
Speaker 4: that's not correct.
Speaker 3: You met him three years ago in Tokyo. I said, man,
Speaker 3: that guy's amazing, like.
Speaker 4: It's beveries, like like guys, I am not that memorable,
Speaker 4: trust me. And the fact that he like he liked
Speaker 4: he said it with a smile like Tom Morosi. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: he can't use that word together with me because because
Speaker 4: he already used it once.
Speaker 3: You gotta dance your voca, buddy. You gotta learn some
Speaker 3: new phrases.
Speaker 4: And it was like he was smiling, laughing so like
Speaker 4: so every every ever since, I mean every time I
Speaker 4: ever see him, big smile, we always say hello back
Speaker 4: and forth like he's he's just a delightful person and
Speaker 4: like that's one of my all time favorite international baseball
Speaker 4: cultural connection.
Speaker 3: Stories like no no, no, no, no, tell him that's wrong.
Speaker 3: He met me before it was it was classic.
Speaker 5: No, that's incredible talking to John on the UMA guest Line.
Speaker 5: I saw it this morning on MLB Network rocking to
Speaker 5: Mike Cruco Jersey. And of course we got the news
Speaker 5: yesterday that after thirty six seasons he stepping away from
Speaker 5: the mic. Just your thoughts at Mike Kruko and what
Speaker 5: he's meant to baseball.
Speaker 4: Legend Hall of famer, uh set the standard and and
Speaker 4: and this is for those of us in in the business, Okay,
Speaker 4: like like for years and years and years, people that
Speaker 4: are working broadcasting, we will stay up late to watch
Speaker 4: the Giants games because because the broadcast is that great.
Speaker 3: And what makes it great?
Speaker 4: Okay, of course it's the scene, it's the team, but
Speaker 4: it's the voices, and it's the friendship. And and for
Speaker 4: all of us that have grown up loving the game,
Speaker 4: the magic of it is is friends talking and the
Speaker 4: game is happening. And of course the iconic calls UH
Speaker 4: for Kruk and Kite. But just when you feel like
Speaker 4: you get to just drop in on two best friends
Speaker 4: talking about the game, and you get to and and
Speaker 4: there's that third stool on the table and it's yours.
Speaker 4: That's the magic, right, That's that's why we do what
Speaker 4: we do, and that's why they're great, and that's why
Speaker 4: the two of them are such a great duo. And
Speaker 4: I mentioned this in the morning too, like the love
Speaker 4: and care they've got for each other families that goes
Speaker 4: so deep in ways that probably any of us can't
Speaker 4: really even fully understand. But just the care and the
Speaker 4: kindness they've always shown for each other and the way
Speaker 4: they represent the game they are is they are as
Speaker 4: important to the Giants organization and the way that those
Speaker 4: of us who get a chance to visit San Francisco
Speaker 4: from time to time and watch the games, they are
Speaker 4: as important or more important.
Speaker 3: Than any player.
Speaker 4: I really believe that, and that they are that important
Speaker 4: so institutions. And the thing is too, one of the
Speaker 4: things I love about this is that their greatness has
Speaker 4: been fully appreciated by the Giants fans. This is not
Speaker 4: I am not telling you anything you don't already know.
Speaker 4: I'm I'm just telling you something that that for me,
Speaker 4: a guy from a small town of Michigan, I get
Speaker 4: it too, and and that to me, I just I
Speaker 4: hope that everyone just has that that satisfaction in knowing
Speaker 4: that when you've got that guy or in this case,
Speaker 4: that the two of them together and and it's magic,
Speaker 4: like we felt that way with Ernie Harwell and Michigan
Speaker 4: Vin Scully obviously in LA. I mean, this is this
Speaker 4: is the Mount Rushmore of this profession and this sport.
Speaker 4: And so I just want them to know how much
Speaker 4: I appreciate.
Speaker 3: The standards they have set for us.
Speaker 4: Any anybody that has a microphone that does anything with baseball,
Speaker 4: they're all part of the standard that has been set
Speaker 4: for us to try to follow. And the best way
Speaker 4: that they've done it is that they didn't think about
Speaker 4: their careers. It's like they've done it by being themselves
Speaker 4: totally authentic. They didn't learn this in a broadcast school.
Speaker 4: They learned this in the dugout, in the clubhouse, on
Speaker 4: the field, and it's them. And I think that's whenever
Speaker 4: young people ask me, Okay, what do I want to
Speaker 4: do in this business? Basically, and what Kruk and Kype
Speaker 4: have shown us is be you, be you, and and
Speaker 4: the way they did it is so brilliant and have
Speaker 4: done it is so brilliant, And I just hope for
Speaker 4: obviously just the best of the best of health and
Speaker 4: happiness to Mike and Jennifer the whole family, and.
Speaker 3: Just thanks thanks to them for all they've done for us.
Speaker 2: So well, said John MOROSSI. With us on the Yuma
Speaker 2: guess we don't have tons of time.
Speaker 3: We do have to run.
Speaker 2: But dude, I said, I was going to do it
Speaker 2: because I want to hear from you on this, and
Speaker 2: I'll just go big like a you know, thirty thousand
Speaker 2: foot mac review on it. How high are the expectations
Speaker 2: for the Sharks in twenty twenty six, cause, I mean,
Speaker 2: playoffs are the the baseline as far as I care.
Speaker 4: Yes, I mean, when you have arguably the best forward
Speaker 4: in the world right now is on your team, He's
Speaker 4: that good and that's not breaking news if you watch him.
Speaker 3: But this is just the opinion.
Speaker 4: I mean, McDavid is amazing, obviously, but when you look
Speaker 4: at celebrating what he can do, he's got a contract
Speaker 4: that proves it. And if I'm buying stock in any
Speaker 4: team for the next five to ten years in this league,
Speaker 4: it's San Jose because it's not and and again part
Speaker 4: of it is part of it is good lottery luck.
Speaker 4: They were they were having high picks at the right times,
Speaker 4: but they've hit on the right picks. Mike Greer is
Speaker 4: really good, Warsowski is a really good coach.
Speaker 3: Like they've they've got. I'm a big Dickinson fan.
Speaker 4: I've watched him play in the Ohl here close to
Speaker 4: me in Michigan for a while, Misa I saw playing
Speaker 4: sac and all like, there's a lot of really good
Speaker 4: players in this team right now.
Speaker 2: Got I mean, he's a guy that.
Speaker 4: That wasn't the most heralded when he was coming up
Speaker 4: and has just done nothing but score and make an impact.
Speaker 3: So I'm I'm on him.
Speaker 4: I think you know, I had a chance to watch
Speaker 4: celebrity play. I mean that was like last year I
Speaker 4: watched him play in person in Detroit. I was like,
Speaker 4: I gotta see this guy. I mean, he is just
Speaker 4: so I'm I'm a huge fan of what he does.
Speaker 4: Great kid too, just everything about him. Man, I'm I'm
Speaker 4: I'm buying stock in this team.
Speaker 5: Okay, real quick, John, Okay, did the Dodgers put the
Speaker 5: best offer on the table for Trek Skoogle? And would
Speaker 5: you be surprised if we have a workstopage in baseball
Speaker 5: that goes longer than me?
Speaker 3: Real quick.
Speaker 5: Yes, sorry, complicated questions.
Speaker 4: I do believe they made the best offer. It's in
Speaker 4: the eyes of the beholder. The Brewers were really close.
Speaker 4: I'm I'm gonna be an optimist and say that we're
Speaker 4: playing before May. But but you're talking to an optimist here,
Speaker 4: so this so I I think in terms of what's possible,
Speaker 4: and I'm gonna think that it's possible.
Speaker 3: That's what I got for you.
Speaker 2: There you go, John Morosey the what you hear and
Speaker 2: you see him on the MLB Network in the NHL Network.
Speaker 3: John.
Speaker 2: Always fun to catch up with the man. Really appreciate
Speaker 2: the time today.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Bubby.
Speaker 4: We'll enjoy the conversation and enjoy this twenty twelve World
Speaker 4: Series rematch. I'm sure the Giants fans want to see
Speaker 4: it play out just the way it did about fourteen
Speaker 4: years ago.
Speaker 2: A three game sweep. That's what we're looking for. Articulated job.
Speaker 2: Thanks much, great stuff there from John Morosey. We do
Speaker 2: have to take a quick break because we got to
Speaker 2: catch up with our guy. Ted Newinn is waiting in
Speaker 2: the wings. Ted new Win joins us from the Athletic
Speaker 2: we'll talk some football with him. Where were we going Exus
Speaker 2: and O's Deebo heavy debo talk.
Speaker 3: What's off Deebo?
Speaker 5: The impact of no more Ricky Piersol and just kyl
Speaker 5: Shan as a play caller?
Speaker 3: What nothing on?
Speaker 2: Rahee Morris, We could do that too, all right? Just
Speaker 2: making sure it's all good with you.
Speaker 5: Get some raiders in there too.
Speaker 3: He's a raider guy.
Speaker 2: Oh mister, you're gonna get some raiders.
Speaker 3: No, they're probably not. Why not? I got none? No question?
Speaker 2: I want to ask if he thinks they should start
Speaker 2: Mendoza from day one?
Speaker 3: Where the do we go?
Speaker 2: So you're the raider guy for this segment, I'll ask
Speaker 2: the raider questions. Leave those to me. Adam Copeland deepop
Speaker 2: with you on the Battery at fifty eight Social the
Speaker 2: Giants and the Tigers tonight seven to fifteen, first pitch,
Speaker 2: six fifteen pregame. But when we come back, a little
Speaker 2: dipitus in football, a little film talk with our guy,
Speaker 2: Ted new Win of the Athletic He joins us next
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