WEBVTT - Spencer Pratt comes out swinging at the Mayoral Debate

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<v Speaker 1>And very happy Thursday to you at twelve oh six

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<v Speaker 1>in the West, It's the Phillip Show, mister Randy Weggs

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<v Speaker 1>in Culver City. John, we all get tongue tied from

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<v Speaker 1>time to time, but when you are a public servant

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<v Speaker 1>and a public speaker on live television, you really want

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure you don't confuse your tea's for your f's.

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<v Speaker 2>So, yes, there were fire trucks that were broken, but

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<v Speaker 2>there were also fire trucks that were out of use.

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<v Speaker 3>WHOA. Obviously it was a misspeak, but it happened on

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<v Speaker 3>live television and she said fire. You know what, She

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<v Speaker 3>dropped the F bomb during the debate accidentally. But yes,

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<v Speaker 3>so yes, there.

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<v Speaker 4>Were fire trucks that were broken, but there were also.

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<v Speaker 3>Fire Oh my, well, Katie Porter's working blue too? Why not?

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<v Speaker 1>Karen Bass eight hundred two two two five two two

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<v Speaker 1>two is jellphone number one? Eight hundred two two two

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<v Speaker 1>five two two two. Well, last night was the first

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<v Speaker 1>la mayoral debate where you had Nitthiya Raman, the socialist

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<v Speaker 1>candidate for mayor, the incumbent, Karen Bass, and Spencer Pratt

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<v Speaker 1>of reality TV fame all on the same stage together

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time. And I've got to say, Randy,

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<v Speaker 1>it was cathartic to watch that debate because he mopped

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<v Speaker 1>the floor with those two.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what the expectations were for Spencer Pratt

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<v Speaker 3>going into this debate. I'm sure a lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>who don't pay a lot of attention to what's going

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<v Speaker 3>on just assumed that, you know, he's not really up

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<v Speaker 3>to date on the issues outside of the fire. But

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<v Speaker 3>he knew his stuff and he had a good answer

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<v Speaker 3>for pretty much every single question. And not only that,

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<v Speaker 3>but he handled himself really well. And neither Nythia nor

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<v Speaker 3>Karen Bass even thought to try to go after him

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<v Speaker 3>because they were so busy going after each other that

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<v Speaker 3>at one point Spencer Pratt, who is a classy guy,

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<v Speaker 3>goes to the moderators is like, you know what, she

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<v Speaker 3>just attacked Karen Bass. Karen Bas should respond, I'll tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>When I watched that debate last night, the first thing

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<v Speaker 1>that jumped out of me is that those two, the

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<v Speaker 1>two standard politicians, Karen Bass and Nitthia Rahman, walked into

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<v Speaker 1>that debate assuming that he was stupid. They thought that

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't have to do any homework and that he

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<v Speaker 1>would fall on his face because he came from reality TV,

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<v Speaker 1>so clearly the guy has to be dumb, which is crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>because he's been out doing interviews everywhere, including here when

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<v Speaker 1>he came in studio and I peppered him with questions

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<v Speaker 1>for an hour, and the guy was well read.

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<v Speaker 3>The guy had clearly.

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<v Speaker 1>Been spending a lot of time thinking about solutions for

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<v Speaker 1>the problems that face the city. I know there's an

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<v Speaker 1>assumption that he's a one note Johnny and all he

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<v Speaker 1>cares about is the fires because his home burned down

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<v Speaker 1>in the Pacific Palisates fire. But you talk to him

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<v Speaker 1>about homelessness, you talk to him about crime, you talk

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<v Speaker 1>to him about the Olympics, you talk to him about

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<v Speaker 1>any of those subjects, and he was up to date

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<v Speaker 1>and well versed on all of it. And those two

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<v Speaker 1>are so arrogant, and those two are so snobbish that

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<v Speaker 1>they just looked down their nose at someone who appeared

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<v Speaker 1>on reality TV in a past life.

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<v Speaker 3>And assumed that he couldn't put two words.

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<v Speaker 1>Together to save his life, and he showed up and

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<v Speaker 1>made them both look like phones.

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<v Speaker 3>The debate was of every debate I've had to deal with,

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<v Speaker 3>and we've watched a lot of governor's debate. This was

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<v Speaker 3>the most entertaining debate of the entire political season. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if there's going to be another one before

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<v Speaker 3>June second, but it was a thing of beauty.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, it's so funny to me because I

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned before that they thought he was stupid, and I

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<v Speaker 1>went to graduate school, and let me tell you, some

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<v Speaker 1>of the dumbest people I've ever met have advanced degrees.

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<v Speaker 1>Just because you are educated doesn't mean that you have wisdom.

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<v Speaker 3>And speaking of which, and Nathia.

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<v Speaker 1>Rahman came off looking like she has zero common sense

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<v Speaker 1>at all. She is totally unaware of the world around her.

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<v Speaker 3>She came off as completely not ready for prime time.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think she's ever had to do a televised debate.

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<v Speaker 3>She's done some small all debates that are inside homeowners associations.

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<v Speaker 3>But she looked like a deer in the headlights, and

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<v Speaker 3>at one point got so rattled that she claimed that

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<v Speaker 3>Spencer Pratt and Karen Bass were colluding against her. Idiot. So, Johnny,

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<v Speaker 3>we got a lot of topics to cover. We're going

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<v Speaker 3>to try to get to as much of this debate

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<v Speaker 3>as we can before three o'clock. You want to talk fires, crime, homelessness,

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<v Speaker 3>the budget, housing, reviving downtown Hollywood or other.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start with reviving downtown because that exchange was a humdinger.

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<v Speaker 3>All righty take it away. Here is the NBC mayoral

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<v Speaker 3>debate and Conan Nolan did a fantastic job, as he

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<v Speaker 3>always does, and Colleen was also there.

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<v Speaker 5>Downtown Los Angeles seems to be in a state of crisis.

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<v Speaker 5>The high rises there, the office buildings are worked a

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<v Speaker 5>fraction of what they used to be. That will impact

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<v Speaker 5>the budget. By the way, you have a graffiti tower.

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<v Speaker 5>You have a half a billion dollar bridge at six

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<v Speaker 5>Street Bridge where somebody ripped out thirty eight thousand feet

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<v Speaker 5>of copper, so it's in the dark.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, By the way, should just be the campaign at

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<v Speaker 3>right here? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>How could you be the mayor of all of this

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<v Speaker 1>chaos and even expect four more years.

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<v Speaker 5>You have restaurants Cole's at sixth and Maine, Clifton's at

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<v Speaker 5>Broadway in eighth that survived the Depression, Prohibition and World

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<v Speaker 5>War Two, but they can't survive the human thess outside

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<v Speaker 5>the front door.

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<v Speaker 3>They're closed. I have said it many times. Conan Nolan

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<v Speaker 3>has zero bleeps to give and he is fantastic for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Did I tell you I was on a flight with

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<v Speaker 1>him one time and he wore an Indiana Jones at

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<v Speaker 1>that's great.

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<v Speaker 5>What is your plan for downtown? Can we afford to

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<v Speaker 5>let it die? And israma will start with you? Oh

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<v Speaker 5>you don't want to do that, all right? Let's see

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<v Speaker 5>drunk man drive down an icy road. Would you agree

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<v Speaker 5>to bring city workers back full time to the office

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<v Speaker 5>in order to help sell the businesses?

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<v Speaker 6>I think we do definitely need to bring city and

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<v Speaker 6>county workers back. We bring in our office. We have

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<v Speaker 6>people in the office three days a week in order

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<v Speaker 6>to be able to address issues. There are some workers

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<v Speaker 6>that should be in the office much more, and there's

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<v Speaker 6>others that can be there three days.

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<v Speaker 3>We think we're running out the clock here, Nathea.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the fact that she has nothing to say

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<v Speaker 1>about shutting down all the chaos. It's just making sure

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<v Speaker 1>that the city employees still get to work from home

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<v Speaker 1>two days.

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<v Speaker 6>In the week that can be there three days a week.

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<v Speaker 6>But absolutely that is not the only intervention that downtown needs.

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<v Speaker 6>And right now, the lack of care that's being demonstrated

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<v Speaker 6>in downtown La is part of our broken status quo.

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<v Speaker 6>Downtown LA needs attention and it.

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<v Speaker 3>Needs Boy, we're just talking in the most generalities possible.

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<v Speaker 1>She's talking about downtown as if it's a child of divorce.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't need more TLC. They don't need more attention.

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<v Speaker 1>They need someone to go in there and clean it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Downtown LA needs an enema.

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<v Speaker 4>Real care.

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<v Speaker 6>It needs more public safety officials on the streets. It

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<v Speaker 6>needs work with businesses to ensure that businesses aren't just

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<v Speaker 6>fleeing Downtown LA, that they're actually staying there. It needs

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<v Speaker 6>regular cleanups, It needs real maintenance.

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<v Speaker 4>It needs a strategy.

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<v Speaker 6>Instead, what Mayor Bass has done is to dismantle our

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<v Speaker 6>economic development department.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't have a strategy to keep.

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<v Speaker 6>Businesses here in Los Angeles, and we're watching as they

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<v Speaker 6>walk away from this city instead of investing in it.

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<v Speaker 6>That's the kind of investment that I want to encourage

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<v Speaker 6>people to make by actually investing in a real economic

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<v Speaker 6>development strategy for LA.

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<v Speaker 3>Mister Brett, how do wrong wrong? Let's see if Spencer

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<v Speaker 3>has a different answer. Mister Prett, how do we solve this?

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<v Speaker 5>You want to bring workers back into the city full on?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, what's the solution for this problem, and he

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<v Speaker 3>mentioned a lot of problems.

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<v Speaker 4>What's your plan, Thank you sir. Well.

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<v Speaker 7>First off, I was just talking to my friend Rachel,

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<v Speaker 7>who works in downtown LA. Downtown is so unsafe now

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<v Speaker 7>that they have to serve the food. All the employees

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<v Speaker 7>have to eat inside.

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<v Speaker 3>They can't risk going like the Kaiser in Oakland. Yes, exactly,

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<v Speaker 3>like the kais are in Oakland.

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<v Speaker 7>They can't risk going out. That's why all these beautiful

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<v Speaker 7>restaurants are closing because it's so unsafe.

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<v Speaker 3>So before we.

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<v Speaker 7>Require city workers to go back into Eddie Billies, we

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<v Speaker 7>need to enforce the laws on the street. Council one

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<v Speaker 7>Ramen is talking about safety. Yet when animal rescue activists

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<v Speaker 7>Rebecca Corey came in and said the dogs are being

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<v Speaker 7>torturing abuse on the streets of Done and she walked

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<v Speaker 7>out of the hearing.

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<v Speaker 4>She doesn't care.

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<v Speaker 3>That is true. And by the way, I've been doing

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of talking with the animal activists that are

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<v Speaker 3>talking about what's going on in skid Row and it's horrifying.

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<v Speaker 3>Nithia Rahman at the debate the night before for the

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<v Speaker 3>Sherman Oaks Homeowners Association, she was confronted by Joey Tuccio,

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<v Speaker 3>who's the guy shooting all those videos in skid row?

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<v Speaker 3>And she said, and she said this honestly, the first

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<v Speaker 3>time I ever went to an La animal shelter was

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<v Speaker 3>five days ago. Oh my, she don't care about nothing.

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<v Speaker 7>She doesn't care about safety, she doesn't care about anything

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<v Speaker 7>she's talking about. At least Mayor Bass pretends.

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<v Speaker 3>To care everything I ever wanted in a mayor ol debate.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, if I could just inject this into

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<v Speaker 1>my veins, I would, Ma Bas, can we.

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<v Speaker 8>Afford And you've got a minute to answer this question?

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<v Speaker 8>Can we afford to let downtown La die?

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<v Speaker 4>Though? Absolutely cannot?

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<v Speaker 3>Here comes mother Goose cannot.

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<v Speaker 4>But is it a crisis situation at this point?

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<v Speaker 3>Even Colleen's done? By the way, Karen Bass, I know

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<v Speaker 3>that you're a mayor of a big city, but don't

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<v Speaker 3>outdo my girl. Absolutely, absolutely, there's only one die.

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<v Speaker 4>We absolutely cannot situation.

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<v Speaker 8>It's absolutely it seems to be going the wrong way.

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<v Speaker 4>So let me just tell you that we absolutely cannot.

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<v Speaker 1>That's three times whoa. It's like machine gun fire.

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<v Speaker 4>Downtown is the center of our city.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, this is a very different situation than that debate.

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<v Speaker 3>Between her and Crusoe four years ago. Because she is

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<v Speaker 3>now a known entity. All of this happened on her watch.

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<v Speaker 2>Downtown is the center of our city and it isn't.

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<v Speaker 3>It really shouldn't be. It's a dump. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Whenever tourists come to La and stay with me, not

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<v Speaker 1>one has ever said, take me to downtown LA.

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<v Speaker 2>And it is an economic engine that absolutely needs.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, you know what, she's flustered. She's flustered, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>a crutch.

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<v Speaker 2>You know absolutely that it absolutely needs to be attended to.

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<v Speaker 4>We have a strategy that is working.

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<v Speaker 3>We are working. No, it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>On what planet is your strategy working? They're bums everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like they're falling out of the sky.

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<v Speaker 4>That is working.

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<v Speaker 2>We are working with the downtown business associations. We are

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<v Speaker 2>increasing public safety there.

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<v Speaker 3>No, you're not another lie.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I did the Adaptive Reuse Ordinance, which allows

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<v Speaker 2>for the office buildings that are vacant to be converted

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<v Speaker 2>into housing.

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<v Speaker 3>She did that last week, and she did it because

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<v Speaker 3>she's running for mayor and she wanted to say she's

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<v Speaker 3>doing something about the empty office spaces.

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<v Speaker 2>And those conversions are taking place right now. That is

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<v Speaker 2>why we have to deal with the street homelessness that

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<v Speaker 2>is there.

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<v Speaker 3>Skid Row's worse than it was three years ago. What

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<v Speaker 3>planet is this dizzy broad living on the planet de Lulu?

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<v Speaker 2>There needs to be massive intervention there. And then, of

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<v Speaker 2>course there is the convention center and the convention center.

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<v Speaker 3>Is nobody's going down to the convention center that's parked

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<v Speaker 3>on Figaroa.

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<v Speaker 4>And the convention center is a long term investment.

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<v Speaker 3>Imagine you're a business, and are you're an organization, a

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<v Speaker 3>trade organization, like let's say that you represent all the dentists,

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<v Speaker 3>and you have to decide where are you gonna have

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<v Speaker 3>your California convention? Are you gonna have it in Anaheim

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<v Speaker 3>next to Disneyland or are you gonna have it in

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<v Speaker 3>downtown LA next to murder in skid Row? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>How long do you think it would take before all

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<v Speaker 1>of the laughing gas was stolen out of the trunk?

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<v Speaker 3>This is a true fact. Fresno does more convention business

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<v Speaker 3>than the city of LA and making the building look

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<v Speaker 3>prettier isn't going to solve that.

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<v Speaker 2>And the convention center is a long term investment that

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<v Speaker 2>we have to make in our city because the more

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<v Speaker 2>people you have downtown, whether it's a convention, Are people

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<v Speaker 2>coming downtown for concerts?

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<v Speaker 3>Is they're all going to Englewood.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you noticed that she has the algore affliction here

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<v Speaker 1>where she talks to adults as if the assumption is

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<v Speaker 1>that we all have brain damage. Well, she really talks

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<v Speaker 1>down to us, doesn't she.

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<v Speaker 3>She understandably does, because in order for her to be

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<v Speaker 3>elected as mayor, a good portion of the electorate in

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<v Speaker 3>La had to have had brain damage.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're feeling down, if you're feeling blue, let's get

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<v Speaker 2>help for you.

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<v Speaker 1>That is quite something the way, and that would explain

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<v Speaker 1>how she got elected in the first place. If every

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<v Speaker 1>voter in the city of La was carried to term

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<v Speaker 1>by Courtney Love, then the voting patterns would make sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Is the way to make the city more safe and

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<v Speaker 2>downtown more safe, and my number one obligation is to

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<v Speaker 2>keep our city safe.

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<v Speaker 4>Downtown is absolutely critical. Thank you all right?

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<v Speaker 8>Moving toward I don't remember Ramen, would you like to

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<v Speaker 8>respond to that?

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<v Speaker 3>So Colleen had a brain fart there, and she's so

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<v Speaker 3>used to just asking Ramen to respond because Ramen gets

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<v Speaker 3>attacked by both of them every single time, and she

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<v Speaker 3>has no good answers.

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<v Speaker 8>To the mayor and what she's talking about that.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, look, I feel like we're having a theoretical

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<v Speaker 6>conversation here about the direction of our city, which is

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<v Speaker 6>being led.

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<v Speaker 4>Currently by our mayor. Our mayor is.

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<v Speaker 6>The CEO of the city. She sets the direction of

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<v Speaker 6>this city. And if you are satisfied with the status quo,

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<v Speaker 6>then I've got great news for you. The incumbent is on.

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<v Speaker 3>The ballot, and so is one of the top members

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<v Speaker 3>of the city council. Yeah, what do you do is

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<v Speaker 3>your day job? Lady?

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<v Speaker 6>What I'm here to say is that we need more

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<v Speaker 6>urgency to respond to the issues right now. We need

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<v Speaker 6>real plans, we need real efforts to make sure that

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<v Speaker 6>we're keeping businesses here, that we're keeping workers here, that

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<v Speaker 6>we're keeping residents in downtown LA. That is the strategy

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<v Speaker 6>and effort that I want to bring to this role.

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<v Speaker 3>Two weeks before she ran fact check true.

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<v Speaker 7>YEP for election, two hours before the candidacy closed, she

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<v Speaker 7>adorsed mayor of Bath. So, all of a sudden, now

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<v Speaker 7>she's has all these problems with mayorbaths.

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<v Speaker 3>They do photos together.

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<v Speaker 8>We have so many more topics, and you know what,

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<v Speaker 8>I know we're passionate. You're passionate about what we're talking about,

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<v Speaker 8>but voters really want some concrete evidence here and they

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<v Speaker 8>want people.

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<v Speaker 7>To direct So she references me, I need to that

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<v Speaker 7>that's supposed to be part of the rules.

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<v Speaker 3>Debates are getting ugly this season. Oh I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 6>I haven't been offered that that in a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>this Nithia.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got a chance respond to every single question debate.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I'm joining you there. Absolutely the.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely the status quo and breaking up the status quo

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<v Speaker 2>and dealing with the bureaucracy is exactly why I ran.

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<v Speaker 3>And why she sounds exactly like Shang. Now the bureaucracy

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<v Speaker 3>is real. She's checking all the boxes.

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<v Speaker 2>And I started doing that by addressing homelessness, but also

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<v Speaker 2>by bringing coalitions together to make sure that we can

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<v Speaker 2>deal with downtown. Did you know that we are the

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<v Speaker 2>only major city that does not have a comprehensive infrastructure plan.

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<v Speaker 3>You're in charge.

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<v Speaker 1>She's acting as if that's some sort of profound point.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's been charge here.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's been haphazard up until now. Left to the

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<v Speaker 2>wishes of every single council member. I have instituted and

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<v Speaker 2>started a comprehensive infrastructure plan and moving right away into

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<v Speaker 2>replacing sixty thousand solar life.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you yeah and sending me a bill for them.

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<v Speaker 1>two two. It is our pleasure to welcome our next

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<v Speaker 1>guest to the program. He is the opinion page editor

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<v Speaker 1>for the California Post. You can follow him on x

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<v Speaker 1>at Joel Pollock. Joel Pollock, Welcome.

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<v Speaker 9>Thanks for having me on. Good to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I've got to say, after watching last night's mayoral

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<v Speaker 1>debate and the performance of Spencer Pratt compared to the

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<v Speaker 1>incumbent mayor Karen Bass and the Socialist councilwoman Nitia Rahman,

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<v Speaker 1>Spencer Pratt cleaned their clocks and it occurred to me

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<v Speaker 1>as I was watching it unfold that the two standard

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<v Speaker 1>politicians walked into that room with two beliefs that led

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<v Speaker 1>them down the wrong road. One was that he was stupid,

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<v Speaker 1>which he clearly is not. He's done more reading on

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<v Speaker 1>the subject matter than they have. He's clearly thought about

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<v Speaker 1>solutions more than they have, and he certainly was perfectly

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<v Speaker 1>fine on his feet defending his positions on that debate stage.

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<v Speaker 1>I also was of the belief that they walked into

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<v Speaker 1>that room with the assumption that he was a one

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<v Speaker 1>note Johnny who could only talk about the fires and

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<v Speaker 1>had no knowledge about any other subject, which was clearly

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<v Speaker 1>not true. The two things, the two assumptions that they

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<v Speaker 1>bought into last night, I think caused them to get waxed.

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<v Speaker 9>Your thoughts, well, I think the three Cannis did very

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<v Speaker 9>you know, you could say they turned in very different performances.

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<v Speaker 9>As you mentioned, Spencer was outstanding and for a number

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<v Speaker 9>of the reasons you've suggested. One is that he showed

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<v Speaker 9>knowledge of a variety of subjects in addition to the

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<v Speaker 9>fire which you mentioned as well, very very impressive. He

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<v Speaker 9>talked about policing, he talked about homelessess, and he had

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<v Speaker 9>some very common sense solutions, which is that you simply

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<v Speaker 9>enforced the law. You do not allow homeless people to

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<v Speaker 9>camp out on the street, and you do not allow

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<v Speaker 9>non citizens to vote. Very, very straightforward and comprehensive. He

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<v Speaker 9>looked like he could be the mayor. That was the

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<v Speaker 9>big hurdle he had to overcome because people had seen

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<v Speaker 9>him as this scruffy social media guy, podcaster trying to

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<v Speaker 9>sell a book, reality TV star, wears a T shirt

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<v Speaker 9>and funny shorts, hanging out with his wife all the time.

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<v Speaker 9>And here he puts on a suit, gets a shaven

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<v Speaker 9>a haircut, stands behind a podium and he looks like

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<v Speaker 9>a big city mayor. And it's not just looking the part.

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<v Speaker 9>It's talking about a wide range of policies. The other

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<v Speaker 9>thing he did, which was really important. I think this

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<v Speaker 9>is sort of implied, and some of what said, he

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<v Speaker 9>came at it with an intensity that made it absolutely

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<v Speaker 9>clear if you were watching that debate, that he is

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<v Speaker 9>the candidate for change. And it's interesting because Nitchia Rahman

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<v Speaker 9>on the left, we'll get to her in a minute,

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<v Speaker 9>but she is claiming she's the candidate for change. She's

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<v Speaker 9>the socialist. She wants to move LA further in the

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<v Speaker 9>direction of, as she would put it, social justice, not socialism,

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<v Speaker 9>but maybe socialist in private moments, I don't know. Maybe

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<v Speaker 9>she admits that she was once quite socialist in her

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<v Speaker 9>political leanings, but she's not really projecting that intensity. Where's

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<v Speaker 9>the energy, Where's the outrage, Where's the passion? And Spencer

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<v Speaker 9>Pratt came across like someone who really wants to change things,

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<v Speaker 9>and you can tell why immediately because he has suffered

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<v Speaker 9>personally and that's motivating him. And look, it motivates a

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<v Speaker 9>lot of us from Pacific Palaces. I mean, why did

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<v Speaker 9>I join the California Post. It's for the same reason.

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<v Speaker 9>I am passionate about rebuilding and also passionate about holding

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<v Speaker 9>people accountable, and this is his way of doing it.

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<v Speaker 9>I found it very competitive, so he did very well.

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<v Speaker 9>Let's go to n Initia Ramen. She is trying to

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<v Speaker 9>be the progressive alternative to Karen Bass. Although Karen Bass,

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<v Speaker 9>who is basically a Cuban communist, it's hard to get

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<v Speaker 9>much to the left her. But Robin just did not

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<v Speaker 9>pull it off, and for a variety of reasons, but

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<v Speaker 9>she just lacked the stage presence she needed. She lacked

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<v Speaker 9>the passion. She has zor on Mamdannie's politics and policies,

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<v Speaker 9>but lacks his charisma and his sense of outrage wherever

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<v Speaker 9>he draws that from. I think he draws it from

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<v Speaker 9>his hatred of Israel, which is sort of central to

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<v Speaker 9>his personality and his politics. But Nitchie Ramen, I mean

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<v Speaker 9>what motivates her. We didn't really get infensive why she's running,

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<v Speaker 9>and she had to be on the defensive for various

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<v Speaker 9>city council votes. Now, normally people just pivot from those

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<v Speaker 9>attacks and they talk about what they want to talk about.

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<v Speaker 9>She didn't really even do that. She was just on

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<v Speaker 9>the back foot entire evening and as Trump might say,

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<v Speaker 9>kind of low energy. So she didn't really convince anyone.

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<v Speaker 9>She was passionate about the changes she's seeking. Karen Bass.

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<v Speaker 9>And I'm going to say something that might disappoint you,

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<v Speaker 9>but Karen Bass did not do well, but might have

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<v Speaker 9>done well enough because she was the incumbent, and she

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<v Speaker 9>admitted she had made some mistakes in the fires, and

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<v Speaker 9>she took ining shots all night from both sides, but

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<v Speaker 9>especially from Spencer Pratt. And yet she still looked like

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<v Speaker 9>she was a mayor. She did not look like she

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<v Speaker 9>was falling apart. She clearly understands, at least telling about

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<v Speaker 9>how the city works or it doesn't work. She didn't

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<v Speaker 9>have any new ideas, but she did at least sound

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<v Speaker 9>like she knows who to call if she needs to

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<v Speaker 9>get something done, and again, not someone who's achieved much.

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<v Speaker 9>And Spencer really hit her over the issue of Hollywood,

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<v Speaker 9>and you know, the mayor said, well, I've made it

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<v Speaker 9>easier to get permits, and Spencer's like, everybody's leaving. What

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<v Speaker 9>do you mean you made it easier to get permits.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean you're sitting there. You've been in power for

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<v Speaker 9>how long you haven't done anything to stop this problem

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<v Speaker 9>of jobs leaving the city. So, you know, she couldn't

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<v Speaker 9>make the case that she'd done a really good job,

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<v Speaker 9>but she did make the case that she more or

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<v Speaker 9>less knows how things are done. And I think that

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<v Speaker 9>is going to be good enough for her political allies

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<v Speaker 9>to stay with her. The big city unions and some

0:25:56.320 --> 0:25:59.080
<v Speaker 9>of the standard Democrats, they're not going to jump ship.

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<v Speaker 9>They didn't see her fold or collapse. It wasn't like

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<v Speaker 9>that first debate of twenty twenty four when Biden looked

0:26:05.320 --> 0:26:07.399
<v Speaker 9>like a deer in the headlights against Trump and suddenly

0:26:07.440 --> 0:26:09.320
<v Speaker 9>all of his allies said, oh my god, we've made

0:26:09.320 --> 0:26:13.520
<v Speaker 9>a terrible mistake. So I think Spencer is going to

0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:17.119
<v Speaker 9>have to win by drawing new voters to the polls,

0:26:17.160 --> 0:26:21.639
<v Speaker 9>people who don't normally vote in city elections, because if

0:26:21.680 --> 0:26:24.399
<v Speaker 9>it's just a traditional electorate which is largely controlled by

0:26:24.440 --> 0:26:27.240
<v Speaker 9>the unions. I do think that Karen Bass is going

0:26:27.240 --> 0:26:29.280
<v Speaker 9>to cruise back into office.

0:26:29.520 --> 0:26:33.879
<v Speaker 1>Rightly or wrongly, it seems like the playbook right now

0:26:33.960 --> 0:26:37.600
<v Speaker 1>for California Democrats, whether it is Karen Bass running for

0:26:37.680 --> 0:26:42.159
<v Speaker 1>reelection as mayor of Los Angeles or Javier Bsara is

0:26:42.200 --> 0:26:45.159
<v Speaker 1>now trying to do this at the state level, is

0:26:45.200 --> 0:26:47.800
<v Speaker 1>not to run on your record. It's not to run

0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:50.840
<v Speaker 1>on I have improved your life. You're better off now

0:26:50.880 --> 0:26:52.680
<v Speaker 1>than you were four years ago, or in the case

0:26:52.680 --> 0:26:56.040
<v Speaker 1>of Besera, after eight years of Gavin Newsom and eight

0:26:56.119 --> 0:26:59.760
<v Speaker 1>years of Jerry Brown, you're better off today. What they

0:26:59.760 --> 0:27:03.000
<v Speaker 1>see aim to be doing is relying on that old

0:27:03.160 --> 0:27:07.560
<v Speaker 1>Tom Bradley coalition. I guess in recent years you'd call

0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:15.440
<v Speaker 1>it the Obama coalition, a multi ethnic coalition Liberals, blacks, latinos, Asians,

0:27:15.680 --> 0:27:20.960
<v Speaker 1>gays and lesbians, and they just take the figurehead, whoever

0:27:21.000 --> 0:27:23.719
<v Speaker 1>that may be at any given moment in time, and

0:27:23.760 --> 0:27:27.480
<v Speaker 1>they run there. It's the figurehead of the coalition, but

0:27:27.640 --> 0:27:31.040
<v Speaker 1>it's not the individual that's in charge. It's the coalition

0:27:31.200 --> 0:27:32.080
<v Speaker 1>that's in charge.

0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:33.160
<v Speaker 3>And if you just.

0:27:33.160 --> 0:27:37.080
<v Speaker 1>Elect the figurehead of the coalition, then the coalition will

0:27:37.119 --> 0:27:40.240
<v Speaker 1>be in charge of the city government or the state government.

0:27:40.640 --> 0:27:43.959
<v Speaker 1>And that's a good enough argument for partisan voters, and

0:27:44.000 --> 0:27:47.320
<v Speaker 1>that seems to be what they're both doing right now.

0:27:48.160 --> 0:27:51.480
<v Speaker 9>Well, it's a little bit different. So Ken Bath, yes,

0:27:51.680 --> 0:27:56.359
<v Speaker 9>she is a coalition leader, and you could even argue

0:27:56.359 --> 0:27:58.560
<v Speaker 9>in twenty twenty two when she first ran for mayor

0:27:58.920 --> 0:28:01.399
<v Speaker 9>that that was a strength because the problems she was

0:28:01.440 --> 0:28:05.440
<v Speaker 9>elected to address, like homelessness, we require buy in from

0:28:05.600 --> 0:28:09.679
<v Speaker 9>all different stakeholders in the city. So even though Rick

0:28:09.760 --> 0:28:12.320
<v Speaker 9>Caruso had more passion and energy about it, and he's

0:28:12.359 --> 0:28:14.280
<v Speaker 9>really the one who put that issue on the map,

0:28:14.320 --> 0:28:16.880
<v Speaker 9>I mean, Karen Bass was not talking about homelessness until

0:28:16.920 --> 0:28:20.760
<v Speaker 9>she had challenged from Rick Caruso. She had a skill

0:28:20.840 --> 0:28:23.480
<v Speaker 9>set which was to be able to bring people together

0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:25.320
<v Speaker 9>who might not normally do anything.

0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:26.000
<v Speaker 3>About that issue.

0:28:26.640 --> 0:28:30.440
<v Speaker 9>And look, she has wasted billions of dollars to help

0:28:30.480 --> 0:28:33.879
<v Speaker 9>relatively few people, but at least she can say homelessness

0:28:33.880 --> 0:28:36.560
<v Speaker 9>has started to decline over the last year or two,

0:28:36.640 --> 0:28:39.920
<v Speaker 9>and that's what her campaign is really hanging their hopes

0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:41.640
<v Speaker 9>on that they can at least say, well, it did

0:28:41.680 --> 0:28:43.800
<v Speaker 9>get better. Now, is it better than it was when

0:28:43.800 --> 0:28:45.680
<v Speaker 9>she took off his No? Is it better than it

0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:49.880
<v Speaker 9>was two years ago? Yes, So you know she's able

0:28:49.920 --> 0:28:53.560
<v Speaker 9>to say, let's keep the band together. You're right, Spencer's

0:28:53.600 --> 0:28:56.160
<v Speaker 9>not really talking about coalition. He's doing more kind of

0:28:57.960 --> 0:29:01.120
<v Speaker 9>management consultant team descends in the city and throws out

0:29:01.160 --> 0:29:03.280
<v Speaker 9>all the rot I mean he wants to bring a

0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:05.239
<v Speaker 9>team in. That means he's saying, look, I'm not an

0:29:05.240 --> 0:29:06.720
<v Speaker 9>expert in all the stuff I need to know, but

0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:10.960
<v Speaker 9>I'm going to bring in people, almost like a Doge operation,

0:29:11.320 --> 0:29:13.720
<v Speaker 9>you know, come in and cut the fat and restore

0:29:13.800 --> 0:29:16.400
<v Speaker 9>value to taxpayers, make sure that the people are working

0:29:16.400 --> 0:29:18.320
<v Speaker 9>and the city services are there, and that kind of thing.

0:29:20.680 --> 0:29:25.680
<v Speaker 9>You know, she's she's a very strong candidate only because

0:29:25.720 --> 0:29:28.480
<v Speaker 9>she has the support of the public sector unions. Again,

0:29:28.640 --> 0:29:31.520
<v Speaker 9>that is just the key. Now, what you're seeing at

0:29:31.520 --> 0:29:33.960
<v Speaker 9>the state level is a little different because Democrats are

0:29:33.960 --> 0:29:36.120
<v Speaker 9>so split at the state level that the unions are

0:29:36.160 --> 0:29:39.200
<v Speaker 9>a little confused. You've got one in endorsing one one

0:29:39.240 --> 0:29:42.520
<v Speaker 9>and using endorsing another. Sometimes unions are endorsing more than

0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:44.560
<v Speaker 9>one candidate because there are so many Democrats that don't

0:29:44.600 --> 0:29:47.640
<v Speaker 9>know what to do. So there may be some kind

0:29:47.680 --> 0:29:49.960
<v Speaker 9>of surprise to think at at the governor's level. But look,

0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:53.480
<v Speaker 9>Spencer's going to have to go outside of normal politics

0:29:53.480 --> 0:29:55.120
<v Speaker 9>in LA. He's going to have to go to the

0:29:55.240 --> 0:29:57.200
<v Speaker 9>valley and he's going to have to say, look, I

0:29:57.240 --> 0:29:58.920
<v Speaker 9>know nobody votes from Ayra up here. You guys got

0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:02.920
<v Speaker 9>to turn out. Here's the key when you have a

0:30:02.960 --> 0:30:07.440
<v Speaker 9>disaster like the Palisades fire. You know, for most people

0:30:07.480 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 9>in LA it was a sad moment, but not something

0:30:09.960 --> 0:30:14.080
<v Speaker 9>that they felt particularly bad about. It was something that happened. Yeah,

0:30:14.080 --> 0:30:16.640
<v Speaker 9>I probably had a cost for people in Brentwood and

0:30:16.680 --> 0:30:21.160
<v Speaker 9>Santa Monica businesses losing local customers as Palisades residents scattered

0:30:21.200 --> 0:30:24.120
<v Speaker 9>around the state in the country for a while. And yeah,

0:30:24.200 --> 0:30:26.880
<v Speaker 9>I mean, you know, they blamed the mayor. People understood

0:30:26.880 --> 0:30:28.640
<v Speaker 9>the mayor wasn't in town and so that was bad.

0:30:29.040 --> 0:30:32.560
<v Speaker 9>But they don't really feel like it's happening to them. Yeah,

0:30:32.600 --> 0:30:35.560
<v Speaker 9>we have bad roads, bad schools, and we don't have

0:30:35.560 --> 0:30:38.240
<v Speaker 9>as many police, you know, but it doesn't really feel

0:30:38.240 --> 0:30:40.120
<v Speaker 9>like it touches them yet. If you want to make

0:30:40.160 --> 0:30:43.200
<v Speaker 9>the Palisades fire into an election issue that is effective.

0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:46.400
<v Speaker 9>Then you have to explain to angeliaus why this could

0:30:46.440 --> 0:30:49.480
<v Speaker 9>happen to them next. And I don't think he's done

0:30:49.520 --> 0:30:51.200
<v Speaker 9>that yet. It doesn't mean he can't. He's still got

0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:52.920
<v Speaker 9>time to make that case. And I do think that

0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:55.480
<v Speaker 9>he's got a stronger chance of qualifying for the general election.

0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:58.440
<v Speaker 9>So even if he doesn't win outright in this primary,

0:30:58.480 --> 0:31:00.640
<v Speaker 9>you haven't seen the last Dispenser Pratt. He comes back

0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:03.880
<v Speaker 9>to the general election. He's got to make the case that, look,

0:31:04.600 --> 0:31:06.960
<v Speaker 9>what happened to me, what happened to my community could

0:31:06.960 --> 0:31:10.880
<v Speaker 9>happen to any community in LA because of the disastrous

0:31:10.920 --> 0:31:15.080
<v Speaker 9>way our city is run. And unfortunately sometimes it does

0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:17.600
<v Speaker 9>take another disaster or two for people to figure that out.

0:31:18.200 --> 0:31:19.760
<v Speaker 9>You don't want to wait for something like that to happen.

0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:21.280
<v Speaker 9>You certainly don't want to hope for something like that

0:31:21.280 --> 0:31:22.720
<v Speaker 9>to happen. So you've got to find another way to

0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:25.440
<v Speaker 9>get the message out, and I think he can do

0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:27.640
<v Speaker 9>it very creative with messaging. But that's the case. You

0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:29.760
<v Speaker 9>have to make what happened to me should never happen

0:31:29.760 --> 0:31:33.120
<v Speaker 9>to anyone else. Again, it could happen because none of

0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:35.400
<v Speaker 9>the problems that led to it happening to me have

0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:36.120
<v Speaker 9>been addressed.

0:31:37.720 --> 0:31:40.360
<v Speaker 1>In politics, I always tell people to worry about the

0:31:40.440 --> 0:31:44.480
<v Speaker 1>law of unintended consequences. We certainly saw that in twenty

0:31:44.520 --> 0:31:47.560
<v Speaker 1>sixteen when Hillary Clinton decided that she rather run against

0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump than Jeb Bush or one of the other

0:31:50.560 --> 0:31:56.000
<v Speaker 1>Republicans who was running that cycle more traditional Republicans. Last night,

0:31:56.120 --> 0:32:00.240
<v Speaker 1>Nathia Rahman, I think correctly alleged that Mayor Bass and

0:32:00.280 --> 0:32:03.520
<v Speaker 1>her team want to run in the general election against

0:32:03.560 --> 0:32:07.280
<v Speaker 1>Spencer Pratt and not NiTi I Raman. Do you think

0:32:07.360 --> 0:32:10.120
<v Speaker 1>that's true and do you think that's risky?

0:32:12.040 --> 0:32:15.080
<v Speaker 9>I think it's true only because he's a Republican, you know,

0:32:15.120 --> 0:32:19.400
<v Speaker 9>and the pattern in California is generally that the worst

0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:23.320
<v Speaker 9>Democrat will beat the best Republican ninety nine times out

0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:27.720
<v Speaker 9>of one hundred. But Spencer Pratt is different because although

0:32:27.760 --> 0:32:30.160
<v Speaker 9>he's a Republican, what you know about Spencer Pratt is

0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:31.960
<v Speaker 9>that he lost his house in the Pali States fire.

0:32:32.360 --> 0:32:34.680
<v Speaker 9>Spencer Pratt was not running for office before he lost

0:32:34.720 --> 0:32:38.040
<v Speaker 9>his house, and so this could be a little different. Again,

0:32:38.080 --> 0:32:40.600
<v Speaker 9>he's got to generalize it. He's got to let people

0:32:40.640 --> 0:32:43.320
<v Speaker 9>know this is about the other things that are failing.

0:32:44.160 --> 0:32:48.040
<v Speaker 9>The police that aren't getting hired, the school's terrible, the

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:51.040
<v Speaker 9>World Cup which is a disaster, the Olympics that isn't

0:32:51.040 --> 0:32:54.880
<v Speaker 9>getting planned, the delayed people mover at the airport, and

0:32:54.880 --> 0:32:57.080
<v Speaker 9>the high speed rail that we're wasting money on, the

0:32:57.080 --> 0:32:59.400
<v Speaker 9>home you know whatever. But he's got to just say, look,

0:32:59.440 --> 0:33:03.080
<v Speaker 9>this is a general you're not safe anymore in this

0:33:03.160 --> 0:33:05.240
<v Speaker 9>city with these people running it because they run it

0:33:05.240 --> 0:33:07.960
<v Speaker 9>for themselves, they don't run it for you. And he's

0:33:07.960 --> 0:33:11.840
<v Speaker 9>got to make that convincing. So I think, yes, there

0:33:11.880 --> 0:33:14.600
<v Speaker 9>could be some unintended consequences. They think they won't face him,

0:33:14.600 --> 0:33:17.800
<v Speaker 9>and then you know, CNN did this. I mean CN

0:33:17.880 --> 0:33:19.840
<v Speaker 9>was accused at least of doing this. They were accused

0:33:19.840 --> 0:33:22.960
<v Speaker 9>of boosting Donald Trump because they thought Trump would be

0:33:22.960 --> 0:33:25.880
<v Speaker 9>easier for Hillary to be and then of course he wasn't.

0:33:26.120 --> 0:33:27.680
<v Speaker 9>In fact, I thought of the time, he's the only

0:33:27.720 --> 0:33:31.800
<v Speaker 9>one could be Hillary Clinton. And yeah, he tried to

0:33:31.800 --> 0:33:33.920
<v Speaker 9>get too cute and too clever. In politics, sometimes it

0:33:33.920 --> 0:33:34.720
<v Speaker 9>comes back to about you.

0:33:35.960 --> 0:33:38.920
<v Speaker 1>In the old days in California, if someone was really

0:33:38.920 --> 0:33:44.600
<v Speaker 1>screwing something up, the railroads, the oil companies, the Chandler

0:33:44.680 --> 0:33:47.719
<v Speaker 1>family that owned the La Times would pull the plug

0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:50.840
<v Speaker 1>on that person and they'd replace them with someone else.

0:33:50.880 --> 0:33:53.440
<v Speaker 3>They really were a cabal that ran the state.

0:33:54.280 --> 0:33:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Despite the fact that LA is a shell of itself

0:33:57.560 --> 0:34:00.600
<v Speaker 1>and how it used to be, how powerful, how many

0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:04.400
<v Speaker 1>industries were headquartered here, we still have a lot of

0:34:04.440 --> 0:34:06.640
<v Speaker 1>money here. We still have a lot of industries here,

0:34:06.720 --> 0:34:10.279
<v Speaker 1>We still have a lot of influential players here. You

0:34:10.400 --> 0:34:13.120
<v Speaker 1>correctly mentioned that the World Cup's going to be a disaster.

0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:15.759
<v Speaker 1>The Olympics are going to be a disaster. We're going

0:34:15.800 --> 0:34:19.200
<v Speaker 1>to be humiliated on the global stage. Why do you

0:34:19.239 --> 0:34:22.440
<v Speaker 1>think the stakeholders haven't pulled the plug on Karen Bash

0:34:22.480 --> 0:34:26.960
<v Speaker 1>yet the way they would have in the old days, Well.

0:34:26.760 --> 0:34:29.959
<v Speaker 9>Partly because they see the alternative as nithirana. I mean,

0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:34.360
<v Speaker 9>what is happening in cities across America is that face

0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:38.240
<v Speaker 9>with the failure of left wing policies, they're further left

0:34:39.280 --> 0:34:41.959
<v Speaker 9>and they're not moving to the right. You know, thirty

0:34:42.040 --> 0:34:45.239
<v Speaker 9>years ago, New York City chose Rudy Giuliani, and it

0:34:45.320 --> 0:34:48.560
<v Speaker 9>saved itself because after Giuliani became Michael Bloomberg, and Bloomberg

0:34:48.600 --> 0:34:53.799
<v Speaker 9>eventually became a Democrat. But you had responsible management, conservative

0:34:53.840 --> 0:34:56.040
<v Speaker 9>management of these cities, and the cities improved, and the

0:34:56.040 --> 0:34:59.960
<v Speaker 9>investors came back and even had a Republican running Sandie.

0:35:00.320 --> 0:35:02.480
<v Speaker 9>I mean, there was a movement, but now in the

0:35:02.480 --> 0:35:05.960
<v Speaker 9>opposite direction. And the left has convinced itself that the

0:35:06.080 --> 0:35:09.799
<v Speaker 9>problem with left wing policies is that there weren't enough

0:35:09.840 --> 0:35:12.279
<v Speaker 9>of them, kind of like the problem with communism is

0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:14.560
<v Speaker 9>that we never practiced true communism, so we got to

0:35:14.560 --> 0:35:17.640
<v Speaker 9>try it again. Right, So they're all looking at the

0:35:17.680 --> 0:35:22.319
<v Speaker 9>possibility of a Zorn Mamdani and they're desperate to avoid that,

0:35:23.000 --> 0:35:27.480
<v Speaker 9>and they feel that Republicans are discredited for whatever reason.

0:35:27.600 --> 0:35:29.200
<v Speaker 9>And it's hard really to put your finger on what

0:35:29.239 --> 0:35:32.360
<v Speaker 9>that is, either because cities have become so socially liberal

0:35:32.400 --> 0:35:35.320
<v Speaker 9>that they'll never accept a Republican even if the Republican

0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:38.719
<v Speaker 9>says they're pro choice or whatever, or because of Donald Trump,

0:35:38.800 --> 0:35:41.279
<v Speaker 9>and he's just polarized the electorate to the point where

0:35:41.320 --> 0:35:45.239
<v Speaker 9>Democrats and the sea voters just decide that he's the

0:35:45.280 --> 0:35:47.400
<v Speaker 9>reason that they're in trouble until they don't want to

0:35:47.400 --> 0:35:49.480
<v Speaker 9>have anything to do with anyone who supported him. And

0:35:49.520 --> 0:35:52.040
<v Speaker 9>there is some of that, I mean, Trump arrangement syndrome

0:35:52.080 --> 0:35:55.319
<v Speaker 9>is a real thing. But I also just think it's

0:35:55.320 --> 0:35:58.520
<v Speaker 9>a generational thing in a way. Leanni, in that generation

0:35:58.640 --> 0:36:01.439
<v Speaker 9>of more conservative mayors, they did too good a job

0:36:01.560 --> 0:36:04.759
<v Speaker 9>because I think that the Mamdanni generation grew up with

0:36:04.760 --> 0:36:07.879
<v Speaker 9>all these wonderful city services. They have no memory of

0:36:07.920 --> 0:36:10.440
<v Speaker 9>when cities were really bad. They don't remember the lais,

0:36:10.440 --> 0:36:13.239
<v Speaker 9>they don't remember crime on the subways in New York City,

0:36:13.239 --> 0:36:16.840
<v Speaker 9>the Bernie Getz shooting people. They don't remember how bad

0:36:16.920 --> 0:36:22.400
<v Speaker 9>things got under the Great Society of the LBJA years

0:36:22.440 --> 0:36:27.320
<v Speaker 9>and the cities and all the decades of mismanagement that followed.

0:36:27.719 --> 0:36:31.120
<v Speaker 9>And so they think that they have the wealth and

0:36:31.160 --> 0:36:38.360
<v Speaker 9>the resources to withstand whatever sacrifices the Great New Age

0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:39.960
<v Speaker 9>is going to demand of them. When they have to

0:36:39.960 --> 0:36:42.680
<v Speaker 9>give up little pieces of their quality of living to

0:36:42.680 --> 0:36:45.120
<v Speaker 9>get to their socialist utopia, they think they can afford it,

0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:47.480
<v Speaker 9>and largely because it's been paid for by other people.

0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:50.520
<v Speaker 9>A lot of these kids running for mayor running for office,

0:36:50.760 --> 0:36:53.359
<v Speaker 9>they're private school kids. They're not from the places they

0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:56.480
<v Speaker 9>are running to represent. You know, they just don't know anything.

0:36:56.840 --> 0:36:59.960
<v Speaker 9>I mean, Mamdanni became a citizen in like twenty eight

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:02.640
<v Speaker 9>team I mean he's not like, Yes, he grew up

0:37:02.640 --> 0:37:04.479
<v Speaker 9>in New York, but he went to private schools and

0:37:04.600 --> 0:37:06.040
<v Speaker 9>he didn't live like other New Yorkers.

0:37:06.880 --> 0:37:07.320
<v Speaker 3>I mean.

0:37:08.719 --> 0:37:11.840
<v Speaker 9>Romen moved to LA when I did. Basically, I'm not

0:37:11.880 --> 0:37:14.600
<v Speaker 9>a native Angelina. I grew up in the Chicago suburbs.

0:37:14.960 --> 0:37:17.080
<v Speaker 9>I love Los Angeles, have adopted it as my home.

0:37:17.120 --> 0:37:20.000
<v Speaker 9>But you know, I picked a lot of my LA

0:37:20.160 --> 0:37:22.680
<v Speaker 9>history from friends who would reminisce about things that happened,

0:37:22.680 --> 0:37:25.960
<v Speaker 9>both good and bad. And it doesn't mean you can't

0:37:26.040 --> 0:37:28.239
<v Speaker 9>run for office and can't do a good job, but

0:37:28.320 --> 0:37:30.920
<v Speaker 9>it does mean that if you're going to make radical changes,

0:37:31.800 --> 0:37:34.520
<v Speaker 9>people are I think entitled to ask where'd you get

0:37:34.520 --> 0:37:37.080
<v Speaker 9>this idea? I mean, do you have any reasons? Do

0:37:37.120 --> 0:37:38.400
<v Speaker 9>you have any reasonable.

0:37:38.840 --> 0:37:40.880
<v Speaker 1>We're out of time, Joel, thank you so much for

0:37:40.920 --> 0:37:44.480
<v Speaker 1>stopping by. Joel Pollack, opinion page editor at The California Post.

0:37:44.680 --> 0:37:46.680
<v Speaker 1>You can get him online at Joel Pollock, The Fixed

0:37:46.719 --> 0:37:49.200
<v Speaker 1>Califori Gowers. Next, don't you go anywhere