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Speaker 1: Sign for sweaty reg ninety seven.

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Speaker 2: Times read time.

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Speaker 3: To push, pull up your pants, hot.

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Speaker 1: Sauce, trown up me?

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Speaker 4: D it too?

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Speaker 3: Und sun swelling, lashing shed show good barn.

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Speaker 1: Now opening audio this morning. These poor guys, you know,

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Speaker 1: they don't have a lot of money to begin with,

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Speaker 1: a bunch of musicians, but they sound like they're fun.

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Speaker 1: And they came up with the hot sauce, and then

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Speaker 1: someone took their van of hot sauce.

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Speaker 5: Chris Anderson and Sarriah Whidby started sheesh hot sauce about

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Speaker 5: two years ago.

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Speaker 6: Throw barbecues and so like, we used to make these sauces,

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Speaker 6: and our friends were like, you guys should bottle this

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Speaker 6: stuff up.

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Speaker 5: So they did and started selling their hot sauce at

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Speaker 5: pop up events, festivals, and farmers' markets. Anderson says they

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Speaker 5: were building steam until earlier this month when their van

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Speaker 6: And then I like look up, and I'm like, well,

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Speaker 6: where did I ply?

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Speaker 7: What was the van?

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Speaker 5: Anderson says they had just bought it a blue two

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Speaker 5: thousand and three Ford about a week earlier to source supplies, signage, tents,

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Speaker 6: Figured the van had been told because it didn't have

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Speaker 5: Anderson says there was around ten thousand dollars worth of

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Speaker 5: supplies in the van, including his drum kit. He's known

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Speaker 5: as the Pike Street drummer playing outside Mariners in Seahawks games,

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Speaker 5: but now he's missing out on performing and selling hot

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Speaker 5: sauce during the playoffs.

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Speaker 6: I would have been out there playing my drums, you know,

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Speaker 6: energizing the fans going into the Seahawks games.

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Speaker 5: Anderson says, they'll keep going and hopefully catch a break

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Speaker 5: getting their stuff back.

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Speaker 6: Somebody has all that right now, playing drums and eating

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Speaker 6: hot sauce.

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Speaker 1: Probably, yes, suck these poor guys in the accountant takes

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Speaker 1: a look at their business plan.

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Speaker 3: In a fight, oh like on Shark Tank.

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Speaker 1: It says, it says be kind, and he's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is what we're trying to be.

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Speaker 1: There's no business plan, so they don't have much to begin.

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Speaker 1: They still the damn van.

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Speaker 3: He won't be out there for this weekend's game.

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Speaker 1: It sucks idiots, and not those guys. I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: the crow, the crooks. All right, Well, hopefully they get

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Speaker 1: their van and their hot sauce back seven and six

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Speaker 1: two one zero ninety seven ninety seven Diime Sports.

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Speaker 9: All right, well, let me just jump on the Savers

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Speaker 9: real quick and we'll get to the Buffalo Bill's situation

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Speaker 3: But a big note for the Buffalo Savers.

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Speaker 9: They signed Josh Done to a seven year, forty eight

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Speaker 9: point sixty five million dollar contract extension through the thirty

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Speaker 3: Wow. Hard to even think of those numbers, isn't it.

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Speaker 9: The deal, with almost seven million per season, includes seven

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Speaker 9: also includes a seven team no trade clause when Done

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Speaker 3: He's twenty three.

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Speaker 9: He was set to be a restricted free agent this summer.

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Speaker 9: We're all looking forward to the right handed defenseman with

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Speaker 9: don't know. Three games might be exaggerating, but it hasn't

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Speaker 9: been many. Jarmol said. Josh is a player that impacts

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Speaker 9: the team both on and off the ice. He works hard,

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Speaker 9: he's competitive and skilled, and his game continues to develop.

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Speaker 9: Savers and looks like we'll see more of him tonight

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Speaker 9: as the Savers get ready to take on the Montreal

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Speaker 9: All right, let's jump over to the Buffalo Bills owner

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Speaker 9: Terry Pagoula that with the media yesterday along with Brandon

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Speaker 9: McDermott after seven straight playoff appearances and eight in nine years.

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Speaker 9: Pagola the latest playoff game was something that supposedly sparked

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Speaker 10: Their decision to bring in a new coach was based

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Speaker 10: on the results of our game in Denver. I want

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Speaker 10: I looked around. The first thing I noticed was our

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Speaker 10: the other players. I looked at them, at their faces,

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Speaker 2: I was there.

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Speaker 10: First thing I said to him, I said, that was

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Speaker 10: He had given everything he had to try to win

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Speaker 3: All right now.

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Speaker 9: During the press conference, Pagool admitted the attempt to upgrade

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Speaker 9: Carrie's risk right. Does the job carry pressure is a

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Speaker 9: question given the circumstances that led to his termination after

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Speaker 9: seven straight postseason berths. Is the ultimate message, next coach,

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Speaker 9: it's super Bowl or bust. Pegoola said, we can't say

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Speaker 9: no pressure, huh, Except we know Pigol wants to break

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Speaker 1: We all do, and I think it's implied that there's pressure.

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Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, the guy's got to make it. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Well the playoffs doing as well as McDermott has done.

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Speaker 11: Is is that the you know, a.

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Speaker 9: Given almost and the expectation to go further. The job

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Speaker 9: carries a high potential reward. It also carries high risk.

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Speaker 9: You know, if there's failure going backwards, there's a lot

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Speaker 9: some people saying that now. The fact that the Bills

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Speaker 9: will have no shortage of candidates doesn't change that. And

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Speaker 9: in the end, there's only thirty two head coaching jobs, right,

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Speaker 9: so although one vacancy has Josh Allen, that's the only one.

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Speaker 1: We're the best coaching position available in the NFL, hands

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Speaker 1: it based on that, and you want somebody with some stones,

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Speaker 1: right you and I went through it yesterday. But you

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Speaker 9: Well, there's a lot of guys that people have suggested

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Speaker 9: are way past their prime. Well, but there's the interview

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Speaker 9: a moment. But the question included for one of Brendan

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Speaker 9: And you know that brings up Kean Coleman and how

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Speaker 9: he's failed to develop and to be a consistent threat

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Speaker 10: I'll address the Keon situation. The coaching staff pushed to

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Speaker 10: but he wasn't his next choice. That was Brandon being

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Speaker 10: for some reason heat over it and not saying a

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Speaker 9: Yeah, And there's a couple of times where it was

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Speaker 1: Did you see Brandon die a little bit when that happened?

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Speaker 3: Was that when his hands went over his eyes just

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Speaker 3: a lot to clean up.

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Speaker 9: that was part of it. Terry Pig won't say whether

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Speaker 9: There is a report out that sources close to Alan,

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Speaker 9: the Buffalo News and the quote was that he's appreciative

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Speaker 9: I'm also told that Josh has faith in the leadership

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Speaker 9: he will take an active role in participating in the

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Speaker 3: So they do want his opinion.

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Speaker 1: There are some of the smart PR people that probably

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Speaker 9: Question, you gotta get out in front of this now,

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Speaker 9: this is right train Kevin rolling all night long. Look,

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Speaker 1: Look, either you say something, Josh or Terry's good something.

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Speaker 9: As far as coaches that are going to be coming

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Speaker 3: Some of these guys get too right.

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Speaker 9: Today we expect Lou and Aroumo, the Colts defensive coordinator,

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Speaker 3: Next week after they lose. But that's a situation there.

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Speaker 1: So with us this morning, Patrick Hammer from Channel to Patrick,

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Speaker 1: good morning, How are you can I hear.

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Speaker 7: The thunder snow animation?

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Speaker 2: Please?

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Speaker 1: That's right? If you'll remember if you were if you

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Speaker 7: Well, not only that, we had thunder snow just recently.

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Speaker 11: Guys.

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Speaker 7: There are a few places on this planet, Buffalo and

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Speaker 1: Really have it?

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Speaker 2: I mean? Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Okay, So here's the deal. We'll break this down snow

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Speaker 7: If you look out your studios, you'll probably see it.

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Speaker 7: For tomorrow. After temperatures fall today, we're only going to

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Speaker 1: When you say heavy snow, do you mean like you

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Speaker 1: that's heavy? Or do you mean like what are you

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, look I said.

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Speaker 7: Right now, I would call this just kind of a

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Speaker 7: When you get two to three inch per hour snowfall

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Speaker 7: You're going to hear about this in national headlines. This

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Speaker 7: Now it's bull's Eye appears to be here. So widespread snow. Well,

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Speaker 1: Ah, it's not good. And let me ask you though

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Speaker 7: I didn't see that.

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Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. Now again, you know ten feet of snow.

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Speaker 1: The more that you know, people are you know, faking videos,

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Speaker 1: But I would believe this from Russia. The guy gets

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 7: The reason I chose the Urals is because of the

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Speaker 1: Yes, that was the Ural Mountain as well.

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Speaker 7: I think that was. They actually filmed it in Colorado,

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Speaker 2: Do you see Rocky four?

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Speaker 7: I'm sorry with Drago that's the best Rocky movie.

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Speaker 1: Good, it's a good Rocky There's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: So in the end, what do you think we should

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Speaker 7: One to three Okay, well we don't need to, you know,

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Speaker 7: going to be very cold temperatures, as I said in

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Speaker 7: By the way, Lake Erie is almost fruit frozen over.

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Speaker 3: Well, this will that down?

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Speaker 1: Hey, one last thing, the Terry Pigle the press conference. Yes, today,

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Speaker 7: Okay, so we are talking on our show calling it disastrous.

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Speaker 7: I didn't feel that way. I thought, you know, he

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Speaker 2: Apparently.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you.

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Speaker 7: I like what he said when I walked into the

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Speaker 7: Josh didn't even acknowledge me. He's the guy that writes

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Speaker 7: which explains how depressed he was.

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Speaker 3: Or need a moment. Sometimes you need a moment, you know.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yes, and that was the moment. I thought it

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Speaker 7: That's where he got kind of weird. But all in all,

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Speaker 7: you know, we got to move forward and look for

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 9: And that means I'm going to ski this week instead

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Speaker 9: of watching Bill's game. So expedition wait underwear. His guess

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Speaker 9: is what you're telling us?

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Speaker 7: Huh?

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Speaker 3: The heavy duty long Johns.

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Speaker 1: All right, take care of yourself and we'll talk to

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Speaker 1: you soon. All right, Thanks Patrick Hammer from Channel to

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Speaker 1: Channel two. And yeah, we did have thunder snow and

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Speaker 1: it was and it was loud, and it was fun,

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Speaker 1: and I didn't hear it.

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Speaker 3: I didn't get all the.

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Speaker 1: Things you get. We've always assumed that the ancients, you know,

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Speaker 1: those who were prospecting and coming through the area, and

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Speaker 1: they're like, I'm surveying the area, and let's see what

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Speaker 1: Buffalo is all about. I don't know if it's called buffalo, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I'm thinking of calling it buffalo.

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Speaker 2: Ah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just gonna camp for the night.

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Speaker 4: Oh.

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Speaker 3: I believe that's when the term go less young man

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Speaker 1: Get the hell out of here, sena, because they're like,

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Speaker 1: we told you, man, you do not want this place.

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Speaker 3: I know it lifted of that.

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Speaker 2: I'm out of here.

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Speaker 3: And nuts.

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Speaker 9: The cold is probably even worse than the snow, I think, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: how we play the game. We have Steve on in

445
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:24,879
Speaker 1: ton of want of things this morning, Steve, what's up?

446
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:26,480
Speaker 2: Not too much?

447
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 14: Not too much?

448
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 2: How are you go doing?

449
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 1: Not too bad? Would you think of that press conference yesterday? Steve?

450
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:32,479
Speaker 2: I wasn't paying attention.

451
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,960
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, so are you?

452
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Speaker 1: Bills fan?

453
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Speaker 2: I know they got robbed on the game. I watched

454
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:41,760
Speaker 2: a lot of the bandits okay.

455
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,879
Speaker 9: Wow, they've had a couple of struggles as of late

456
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 9: as well, and they got the weekend off to try

457
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Speaker 9: and recoup from the last loss.

458
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Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, yeah.

459
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Speaker 1: Interesting. Steve's like na man, didn't see it, don't have to.

460
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 1: We'll say this. If you don't want any stress in

461
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,199
Speaker 1: your life, don't watch it. So you're good, all right?

462
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,919
Speaker 1: So Steve, here we go. We're gonna give you OTF

463
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 1: and we're gonna give you an audio round. So the

464
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 1: audio round this time is called nailed. That's nailed. So

465
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Speaker 1: see if plan for you see if you can guess

466
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Speaker 1: the state.

467
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Speaker 10: I would be.

468
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 15: Highly surprised if there was under three or four hundred victims.

469
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:17,200
Speaker 15: When this is all said, and then.

470
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 2: A tire shops dream nail after nail after nail.

471
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Speaker 15: So that I had three nails the first day. A

472
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Speaker 15: week later another one or two, and it was about

473
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Speaker 15: a nail a week minimum.

474
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Speaker 16: Lauren Shirrip says her cleaning business is falling flat because

475
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Speaker 16: of multiple cancelations thanks to this man, fifty one year

476
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 16: old Felix ARRESTI. He's accused of dumping thousands of nails

477
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Speaker 16: in his neighborhood.

478
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,879
Speaker 15: Oh, it's killed my business. It has absolutely killed it.

479
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 16: A Gunny Sherriff's office saying their investigation into this sharpcase

480
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,439
Speaker 16: of criminal mischief began in September.

481
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Speaker 3: We've had three on my car and two on my husband's.

482
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 1: Neighbors are getting so deflated they picked up the.

483
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Speaker 16: Pieces themselves by the bagful.

484
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 1: In this area near Miller Road.

485
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 3: Flat tire days became the new sick days. I had

486
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 3: to take personal days for going to the dealership.

487
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 16: The Kenney Sheriff's Office saying the final nail Macoffin was servants.

488
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 16: They tracked, arrested, watched him scatter the scrap, and found

489
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 16: him with a bucket of leftovers after he was arrested Tuesday.

490
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 16: Arrest he told deputies someone was following him and he

491
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,400
Speaker 16: was frustrated with law enforcements.

492
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 15: To find a different hobby or pastime.

493
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Speaker 1: Oh man, he was throwing a bucket out there. All right, Steve,

494
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Speaker 1: what did this happen? Ohio, Texas or Florida?

495
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Speaker 2: Oh? I want to say, Ohio. It's not like an

496
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Speaker 2: Ohio thing.

497
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Speaker 9: Ohio for all right, Ohio would be now.

498
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,439
Speaker 1: It saw the Rico, Florida is where that happened.

499
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Speaker 7: Damn it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, singles, I got you, Yeah, Steve, you

501
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Speaker 1: take care, man, have a good.

502
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Speaker 2: Day, you too, take care.

503
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 1: Aaron's on him at falls taking his daughter to school.

504
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Speaker 1: Good morning, eron, How.

505
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 2: Are you good, guys?

506
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Speaker 12: How how are we this morning?

507
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,439
Speaker 1: Not too bad? Thoughts on the press conference?

508
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Speaker 12: Man, horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible. I didn't think they should

509
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 12: have got rid of McDermott anyway. If they're going for

510
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 12: another another coach, that's gonna be a you know, a

511
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Speaker 12: fresh start.

512
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Speaker 2: What was the point, you know?

513
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,159
Speaker 12: He was making some headway with you guys, So I

514
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 12: don't know how to probably kept him.

515
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 1: You would have kept him, all right, So you would

516
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,360
Speaker 1: have kept him, and you wouldn't have had Terry out

517
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Speaker 1: at the press conference.

518
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Speaker 3: Terry, could you just Terry wanted to tell something? This

519
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 3: guy's on f off.

520
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Terry, all right, stee Aaron, here's what we're

521
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Speaker 1: gonna do. We're gonna tell you a story. Let's see

522
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Speaker 1: if you can guess the state this one's called what

523
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 1: about the other guy?

524
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Speaker 3: All right?

525
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 9: So Larry Tie is seventy five years old. He was

526
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Speaker 9: arrested on January thirteenth, in charged with indecent exposure for

527
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Speaker 9: an incident that happened back in October. Now Stims told

528
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 9: police they were sitting in a car when they observed

529
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 9: an older, white male seventy five years old and a

530
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 9: black Chevrolet pickup drive past them several times. The man

531
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Speaker 9: then parked in a nearby parking lot, was joined by

532
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Speaker 9: the driver of a red Chevrolet pickup. Now, the elderly

533
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 9: man in the black truck ty exited his pickup, walked over.

534
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 3: To converse with the guy in the red truck.

535
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 9: Tye and the individual in the red truck then starts

536
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 9: staring at these victims while they were talking.

537
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 3: Ty then all of a sudden zips his fly and

538
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 3: Bray whips it out and starts shaking and stroking it

539
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Speaker 3: in the direction of the couple.

540
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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.

541
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Speaker 9: Ty then walks over towards those people and they rolled

542
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Speaker 9: down their window. He reportedly asked what they were doing,

543
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Speaker 9: and he was told he told police that he asked

544
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Speaker 9: them what they're doing. They said, police have been called

545
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 9: there on their way. So he goes back to his

546
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 9: black pickup truck and he takes off. Footage showed him

547
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Speaker 9: hauling it out approximately approximately twenty five times in the

548
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Speaker 9: direction of the victims.

549
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Speaker 3: Just a lot.

550
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Speaker 9: Ty told investigators before he was arrested that he was

551
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 9: there to meet out with a married woman whom he

552
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 9: intended to have sex with.

553
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so, Aaron, this is it you got

554
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: to think about?

555
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 2: This?

556
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Speaker 1: Is this Ohio? Is this Texas? Is it Florida? Kind

557
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: of flagrant? What do you think it happened?

558
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 12: Well, it's got to be in a warmer state, you'd think.

559
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 12: If he's gonna be out there in October, I'm gonna

560
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 12: go Florida, all.

561
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Speaker 9: Right, Going with Florida, Florida. It does sound like Florida. Unfortunately,

562
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 9: no kidding, this one would be in Waco or should

563
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 9: we call it wacko oh Tech, Texas.

564
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 3: He was wackling it.

565
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 2: I was wrong.

566
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 3: Take care, man, have a good day.

567
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: Florida's like, what you think I'd do something like that?

568
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 3: Does that all the time?

569
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Speaker 1: I am offended, is what I am. Tim's on Atana

570
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 1: wanted Tim, good morning? What's up?

571
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 2: Hey?

572
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 17: Good morning?

573
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 1: So a little rough on the drive this morning.

574
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 17: Oh yeah, it's a mess out here.

575
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 2: Yeah?

576
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: Are you Bill's fan?

577
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:03,640
Speaker 17: A huge Bills fan?

578
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:04,959
Speaker 1: What'd you think of that press conference?

579
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 17: I had to get some I had to get an

580
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 17: increase in my antidepressants actually at the tactor yesterday, and he.

581
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:13,360
Speaker 1: Was like, oh yeah, I said, I'm going to order

582
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 1: some for myself.

583
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 10: And for you.

584
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 17: Yes, sure, he sure did.

585
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: Oh man, would you have fired? Can you at least

586
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: see an reason why they fired Sean McDermott.

587
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 17: I can, But I can't see them firing him without

588
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 17: firing Bean. I think Dean was more to blame, you know,

589
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 17: I think they should have just started fresh with both

590
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 17: of them, you know, gone if they were were going active.

591
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 17: I got you Nick Garmon.

592
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: All right, Tim, Well, here's what we're gonna do. We're

593
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 1: gonna give you an audio round on this one. This

594
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: one's called Mike Tyson's punch Out, and see if he

595
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 1: has to state on this one.

596
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 18: Thirty six year old Nicholas Crawford is charged with three

597
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 18: counts of assault and two counts of domestic violence. Police

598
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 18: reports say Crawford was drunk at a January eleventh party

599
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,679
Speaker 18: when he got upset and started throwing wrapping paper. Then

600
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 18: things escalated. Witnesses say he punched two women, both immediate

601
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 18: family members, in the face.

602
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 12: Got that tale Nick Crawford along with his wife.

603
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 2: He's been drinking. I don't know if he's.

604
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 12: Been drinking, but he's out here punching the window.

605
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 2: He thrty punched a tip her, He punched his wife.

606
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 2: He puted his mother on.

607
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 16: The poor.

608
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 18: When a man tried to hold him back, Police ay

609
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 18: Crawford's wife, Christine Crawford, punched the man restraining her husband.

610
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 2: An we got a few women that got punched by Nick, So, yeah,

611
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 2: I don't know what the Yeah.

612
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 18: Probably emergency crews treated the victims for bruising and swelling.

613
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 18: Investigators say the Crawford's left before first responders arrived. Authorities

614
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 18: arrested them at their home. Christine Crawford faces one count

615
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 18: of assault. Nicholas Crawford has been a firefighter for six years.

616
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 18: Fire and Rescue says an internal investigation is underway.

617
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: Yish, what an idiot? All right? So what did this happen? Ohio,

618
00:28:58,800 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: Texas or Florida?

619
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 17: Well there are no children involved, so I'm gonna rule

620
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 17: out Ohio. So it's between Texas and Florida. That's got

621
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 17: that kind of Florida crazy. So I'm gonna go Florida.

622
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's that's Florida.

623
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 3: All right, Well Florida would be no.

624
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: Oh come on.

625
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 2: What where?

626
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 3: Ohio?

627
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 2: My head?

628
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 17: Ohio, man, you're going it's a domestic Yeah.

629
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Speaker 1: You're right, all right, Tim, You'll get them next time.

630
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 17: Man, take care, all right, guys, stay safe today, you too.

631
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Speaker 1: Seven and six two one zero ninety seven ninety seven.

632
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Speaker 1: We got one more open line seven and six two

633
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Speaker 1: one zero ninety seven ninety seven. Two more. We got

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Speaker 1: the lane stand up in Lancaster, Elane, good morning, how

635
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: are you?

636
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Speaker 14: I'm trying to get on stuck.

637
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 3: Oh what happened?

638
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 14: I'm pulling into a gas station and I'm stuck and

639
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 14: someone finally came to help me. I'm trying.

640
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 3: You wanna, you wanna?

641
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: So wait a second. So the guys behind you pushing, Yeah, okay,

642
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: so yeah, you just have to try to rock it

643
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: a little back and forth and gun it.

644
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 14: Yeah I've been doing that and I'm afraid I'm gonna

645
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 14: hit a gas pump.

646
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,959
Speaker 1: Oh no, that's not good. Yeah, tell you, Elaine. I'm

647
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: gonna put you on hold because you got to focus

648
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 1: on that for moment.

649
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 14: I'm gonna hang up guys, all right.

650
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: That good luck for a lane. So we should just

651
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: take a step back here for a moment. We're just

652
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: looking out the window right now at the snow globe

653
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: and it's coming down real hard. Yeah, okay, you can

654
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 1: see it, and you know it's not that because it's

655
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: super cold and the powdery stuff. You could drive through

656
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: that all day. This this is getting stuck snow. This

657
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: is getting stuck snow, all right, So good luck, Elaine,

658
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: Hopefully you get out. Laura's on an Orchard Park, Laura,

659
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: good morning.

660
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 3: How are you good?

661
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: How are you you driving?

662
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 15: Laura?

663
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 2: Nope, I'm just sitting in my garage smoking a girl.

664
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Speaker 3: That's the way you feel smoking. Okay, all right, so

665
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 3: yeah it is?

666
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 6: Man?

667
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: Is it nasty outside?

668
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 2: All right?

669
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: So Laura rather, I'm gonna tell you a story. Okay

670
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: you ready. Yeah, man named Pancake batter at his elderly father,

671
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: leaving the victim with bruises to swelling eye's face. Investigators say,

672
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: Eric Pancake, that's his name, thirty eight hit his father,

673
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: is seventy two year old, and they got into a

674
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: family dispute. They got into a fight over that and

675
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: his sixty six year old spouse. Anyway, Pancake, who lives

676
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: with his parents, hit his father. With police arriving, the

677
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: victim had bruises a Pancake appeared intoxicated, belligerent. He pleaded

678
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: the fifth in response to law enforcement. He proceeded to

679
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: turn around and place his hands behind his back. Because

680
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: you know, Pancake realizes he's an idiot, he explained to

681
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: officers in the back of the squad car. He couldn't

682
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: tolerate hearing the sound of his parents doing it. He

683
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: couldn't hear, he couldn't stand hearing the sound of his

684
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: parents doing each other all the time. Pancake was booked.

685
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 3: Didn't you say the parents were like seventy two years old?

686
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: Apparently they love each other, and Pancake was like, I

687
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: don't want to hear it anymore. Well, then move out, Pancake.

688
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: All right, So where did this happen? Laura? Ohio, Texas, Florida.

689
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Florida.

690
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like that's a village's type story. There isn't. God,

691
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 3: it does sound like with their STDs and their viagra.

692
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 3: All right, well, Florida would be correct freaking smart.

693
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I could no longer tolerate hearing the

694
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: sound of his parents doing each other all the time.

695
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Pancake, you're an idiot, Laura. Hold on,

696
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: we'll give you prizes.

697
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 3: We have time for one more than at thirty six.

698
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 9: Maybe you should. And you've got a job as a

699
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 9: city firefighter. Maybe you get your own place.

700
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: He's a firefight. Oh jesus, hey, Wade, what's up? Wade?

701
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: Quickly on the press conference, thoughts, I don't.

702
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 2: Know time for a new coach?

703
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 3: All right, look at this, that's pretty clear right now.

704
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: But I mean, you know, right like the first fan

705
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: who's like, oh McDermott, who's the second coming of Jesus.

706
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: He's like, no man, time for a coach.

707
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 6: I didn't.

708
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 2: I haven't liked him in five years. It makes a

709
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 2: lot of mistakes. Everybody hates me for saying it, but

710
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 2: at time, time to move on. And it wasn't for Josh,

711
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 2: we wouldn't have won half the games we won anyways,

712
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 2: id I kind.

713
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: Of feel like you man, I've been thinking about that

714
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: for a long time, like I've never been that, But

715
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we'll look at all the wins

716
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: he got. No, No, Josh Allen got those wins. Josh

717
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: Allen put his body on the line every time. Anyway,

718
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: it's wade with this. We've got the last one for you,

719
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: and it's an audio round and this audio round is

720
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: called not Shakespeare's Othellow. So we're we're pinning all our

721
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: hopes and dreams on you today to try and get

722
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: one last win this morning. And so here we go, Ohio, Texas, Florida.

723
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 4: Seven year old Othello Lorenzo Holmes facing five child pornography

724
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 4: charges after an investigation of an alleged lute act at work.

725
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 19: It's very disturbing.

726
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 4: Holmes worked as a cook at Culture downtown, but no

727
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 4: longer after he allegedly recorded a video of himself putting

728
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 4: his genitals in open food items, confessing to sticking it

729
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 4: in a jar of jelly earlier this month. Court record

730
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 4: show he told investigators he had a sexual urge but

731
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 4: stopped himself, and that he has the urges frequently.

732
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 20: When the restaurant found out about this behavior going on,

733
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 20: so they immediately shut down.

734
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 3: To everybody.

735
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,879
Speaker 4: Constable Alan Rosen says staff sanitized the kitchen and threw

736
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:38,280
Speaker 4: away contaminated items. When Precinct one investigators went through holmes phone,

737
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 4: he says they found thousands of child porn videos on it.

738
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 4: They arrested Holmes near his area apartment on Thursday.

739
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 20: It's mind boggling and somebody having a fetish with food

740
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 20: and restaurants and then child porn and very sick person.

741
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: Woof. I mean, look, I get fuzzy handcuff, fuzzy handcuffs.

742
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: I even could sort of sea feet, though I don't

743
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: find them attractive, but I mean I could see someone

744
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: find them attractive. Grape jelly, all right, So h wade,

745
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: where'd this happen? Ohio, Texas or Florida?

746
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 2: That sounds like Ohio all day long.

747
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: Wait, hold on, did you say Texas? Did you say Texas?

748
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: I thought I heard Texas on that one.

749
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 11: Probably Texas.

750
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 3: All right, well let's go to Texas and Texas would

751
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 3: be correct.

752
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 2: Some freaking god.

753
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: We got to get one winner out of this damn thing. Wade, congratulations,

754
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 1: Ben hold on the line, will give you prizes. We

755
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 1: can't go five for five?

756
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 3: Well does that too?

757
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 2: Yeah?

758
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 1: I just want to get this was a sober press

759
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,760
Speaker 1: conference yesterday. I could just imagine if those two decided

760
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 1: to get rocked before they came out there f off

761
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: Terry Darry and Brandon Bean tried to make things right

762
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: and explain what the hell happened. Problem is, I don't

763
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,399
Speaker 1: know if anybody walked away from that going nice job.

764
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: I'm ready. I feel good. Yeah, mistakes were made, but

765
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: I think I like the fact that Terry is just unfiltered.

766
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: He just goes out there and he just says what's

767
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: on his mind.

768
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 6: And you should like that.

769
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: I know it doesn't you know why it doesn't feel

770
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 1: good or it feels unusual because so many people lie

771
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,479
Speaker 1: to you or don't tell you the truth. There really

772
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: is a lot of like, way too many pr flacks

773
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: in this world such that it was kind of interesting

774
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: and maybe even a little annoying yesterday to go through

775
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 1: your social media and everybody who took a PR class

776
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: at ECC has to tell you how terrible this press

777
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 1: conference was. I'm quite frank. We have to deal with

778
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 1: PR people all the time. Don't ask this, don't ask

779
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: that you shouldn't be going there, and they don't want

780
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 1: to talk about this, and like, just let us have

781
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: a conversation. People want human beings and they want to

782
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: connect with human beings. So like it or not, Terry

783
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: Pagola is a human being and he does not care.

784
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: So they talked first about why fire McDermott.

785
00:36:55,200 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 10: My decision to bring in a new coach was based

786
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 10: on the results of our game in Denver. I want

787
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 10: to take you in the locker room after that game.

788
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 10: I looked around. First thing I noticed was our quarterback

789
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 10: with his head down crying. I looked at all the

790
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 10: other players. I looked at the at their faces and

791
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 10: our coaches. I walked over to Josh. He didn't even

792
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 10: acknowledge I was there. First thing I said to him,

793
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 10: I said, that was a catch. We all know what

794
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 10: I'm talking about. He didn't acknowledge me. He just sat

795
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 10: there sobbing. He was listless. He had given everything he

796
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 10: had to try to win that game, and looking around,

797
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 10: so did all the other players on the team. I

798
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 10: saw the pain in Josh's face at his presser, and

799
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:15,959
Speaker 10: I felt his pain. I know we can do better,

800
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 10: and I know we will get better.

801
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: Don't you get the feeling. Terry's a good dad, that's

802
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, that's kind of a

803
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: there's such a I feel terrible about this, Like even

804
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: you know, the the remnants of a you know, a

805
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: peewee football team and they just lost, and you're like,

806
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: that's it. I'm talking to that coach. That freaking coach

807
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 1: is an idiot.

808
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 2: You know.

809
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 1: You just walk over and all, why the hell didn't

810
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 1: you have so and so run the ball a little

811
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: bit more? What the hell you doing?

812
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 2: You know?

813
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 3: And most coaches at that point would and should tell you,

814
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 3: f off.

815
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: That you do need emotional separation from such a moment,

816
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: and if that was the only reason. But you know,

817
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 1: Terry was leading with his heart. That's what he does.

818
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,439
Speaker 1: He leads with his heart. And so he said that first,

819
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 1: and everybody went, wait a second, and so the hot

820
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: takes from some of the sports guys. Yester, it was like,

821
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: so that's it. So it was just that one moment,

822
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: and it's like, well. Terry then went on to say this.

823
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 10: I did not fire a coach based on a bad

824
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 10: officiating decision. I felt like we hit the proverbial playoff

825
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 10: wall year after year, which is different thirteen seconds missfield.

826
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 9: Yeah, I just like to say, I'd like to in

827
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 9: I liked to interrupt Terry because a minute ago you

828
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 9: said it was because we lost the game. Now you're

829
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 9: saying because we hit the proverbial playoff wall, which would

830
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 9: be week year after.

831
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 3: Year after year.

832
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: Do you want Terry to interrupt Terry?

833
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 3: Yes, you have to. So he's got the devil and

834
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 3: the angel on each shoulder, right, one of them's got

835
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 3: to jump in here.

836
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 1: You've got to rip through dimensions in order to do.

837
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,479
Speaker 3: That, Terry, don't say that. Don't say it. Go ahead,

838
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 3: very Terry and throwing that bomb in.

839
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:54,800
Speaker 2: The catch.

840
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 10: I just sensed in that locker room, like where do

841
00:39:58,960 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 10: we go from here?

842
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 2: Jerry, how far before in the playoff game had you

843
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 2: maybe started thinking about this being a possibility in.

844
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 10: The locker room. I need to keep saying that, keep

845
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 10: saying it.

846
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 3: It's because then I'll believe it.

847
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 10: It was feeling the moment.

848
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 6: Being there being there.

849
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: Wait a second, So Terry, he contradicts himself. So three

850
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 1: times this was switched. The first time he said it

851
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: was in the moment, and then he says, I did

852
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: not do this based on the moment, And then the

853
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: last thing was I did it.

854
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:31,240
Speaker 2: In the moment.

855
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 9: That was you know, it didn't basis on refereeing. But

856
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 9: that was a catch And if you believe that, then

857
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 9: shouldn't have.

858
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: But here's what I think. Maybe we put words in

859
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: his mouth. He this is a culmination of years of

860
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 1: frustration and finally it gets to this moment and he

861
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: sees everybody crying and he goes, that's it. I've got

862
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: to take over and I got to do something.

863
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 2: Now.

864
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: Should he have Should he have taken a deep breath

865
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: and waited. It sounds like there was time before he

866
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: fired McDermott. From what I read, he mcurmay R McDermott

867
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: had a chance to do the exit interviews with these guys,

868
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 1: and if that's true, you know, he really did give

869
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: him a little bit of time. But I don't know

870
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: the one thing that I hope Terry did, and I

871
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: don't know if he did. And this is where we

872
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 1: all get ourselves in trouble. If Terry didn't have any

873
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 1: outside conversations with if he doesn't have a trusted group

874
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: of people that he could turn to, football people, deep

875
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: football people. Those are no organizational football knows the consequences

876
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: of such a move. If he didn't talk to any

877
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: of them and he just went, yeah, I'm doing it,

878
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: that's bad.

879
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 9: Well, I mean, let's look at the timeline. The game

880
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 9: was Saturday, all right, the exit meetings, the clean out

881
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 9: of the lockers was Sunday, and the firing was Monday.

882
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: So I'm hoping that on Sunday he gets on the

883
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 1: phone with I don't know who is he, who's his group?

884
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: Who's he got?

885
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 9: Gwelly is in there? I mean it was He's not

886
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 9: gotta go call their owners, right because Craft would just

887
00:41:56,160 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 9: laughing out fire fire them. Yeah yeah, or maybe he did, Yeah,

888
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 9: I'd fire him.

889
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 3: Let me call the Dolphins gentleman owner. Yeah, I'd get

890
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 3: rid of him too.

891
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: Called Jerry Jones. He's like, I trade Josh Allen. That's

892
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: what I'd do. Jerry you're insane. No, I just trade him,

893
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: trade them to the packers, all right, So then then

894
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 1: you got to make this stuff at least better. And

895
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: at one point they were talking about roster construction and

896
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: sal may Arana from the Rochester Democrat and Chronicle is

897
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 1: going to join us in about an hour from now

898
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: ask the question heard around the world. But it didn't

899
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,720
Speaker 1: necessarily focus on Keon. It was more about wide receivers

900
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: and roster construction. And that's when Terry jumped in. Now

901
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:39,439
Speaker 1: should he have We say yes, mostly because you want

902
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: to hear your owner speak, and especially this owner because

903
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: he's hilarious for those who love their football team.

904
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 10: Eh yeah, I mean interrupt. No, I'll address the Keon situation.

905
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: And this is where you could see Brandon Bean and

906
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:57,439
Speaker 1: he's a smart guy.

907
00:42:58,120 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 2: You know.

908
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: Yes he's made some mistakes, but look, trying to pick

909
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: you know, uh, football players in the NFL is is

910
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 1: always a bit tough, especially younger guys at the travel right. Yeah,

911
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: it's it's it's always you're never quite sure. I think

912
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: Bean was saying, but in his brain, he knows Terry

913
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: and he knows where this could go, and so yes,

914
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: should Terry have allowed him to do it, of course.

915
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean I interrupt, I'll address the Keon situation. Uh,

916
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:34,280
Speaker 10: the coaching staff pushed to draft Kon. I'm not saying

917
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 10: Brandon wouldn't have drafted him, but he wasn't his next choice.

918
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 10: That was Brandon being a team player and taking advice

919
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 10: of his coaching staff who felt strongly about the player.

920
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's when you start watching this whole thing.

921
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: You know, at least from Brandon's point of view, just

922
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 1: go south on his throat. Jesus inside, Brandon Bean is

923
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: dying a thousand times.

924
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 2: Sometimes that is better.

925
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: Can you imagine Brandon Bean's in the press conference and

926
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 1: he's looking for a bare wire he could bite down on,

927
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: just some sort of electrical cable that he could just God,

928
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 1: And you know, Terry's going off, is like, you know,

929
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: we did, We drafted a lot of guys. Got to

930
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: be honest with you, I really wasn't excited about Josh

931
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: Allen in the beginning. And you know, and at that moment,

932
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,240
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean just dives on a live wire and choose

933
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 1: into it. That didn't happen, however, and so Terry went off,

934
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: and that's when everything just sort of went south for

935
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 1: the rest of this press conference. And I gotta figure

936
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: that other people were thinking the same thing. Now, Keon.

937
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 1: Somebody posted this Keon during I believe it was when

938
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:03,760
Speaker 1: they brought him in interviews during the combine, and Keon's hilarious.

939
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: You know, he's a he's a personable type. And you

940
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 1: have the coach, and you've got Brandon Bean and you've

941
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: got Terry Polson in the background. And they asked ke On,

942
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 1: what does he do other than football?

943
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 21: Football, chill at the house.

944
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 1: Bowl a little bit.

945
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 2: I ain't.

946
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 21: I'm Tiger wish he could. I'm not Tiger Wood. I

947
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 21: wish I could put it all that. Boy, I had

948
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 21: to shooting five under. I ain't doing all that. I'm

949
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 21: like TV five and just putting in. But I'm gonna

950
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 21: go have fun. Like you know, it's controlled chaos. You know,

951
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,439
Speaker 21: you frustrated, but you can't get mad, pull a muscle

952
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 21: in your bet trying to hit the ball. So it

953
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 21: forces me to stay calm and just swing, just have

954
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 21: some fun.

955
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so.

956
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: Right, you know that Keon is trying to figure it

957
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: out the second year in the NFL, and his brain

958
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 1: is scrambled, and you can imagine, I hope and you

959
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 1: have to think that that Keon emerges in the third

960
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 1: year and just crushes it. And who knows, you know,

961
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,720
Speaker 1: if Keon's for what team? Well, but if Keon smart,

962
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: he uses this his motivation and just crushes it and

963
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: then sign some massive free agent deal. But anyway, so

964
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: but you hear that, and everybody's laughing. Everybody's laughing except

965
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: you see. You sort of see Terry in the quarter going,

966
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 1: who is this idiot? And I'm not sure if Terry

967
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 1: was ever bought in on Keon, And maybe that's why

968
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 1: he felt the need to do it, because sometimes when

969
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: Terry's talking about another person, it seems he's really talking

970
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: about himself, and that's kind of important. Well anyway, so

971
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: then they were talking about whether or not the situation

972
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: with McDermott is dissolved, and Brandon talked a little bit

973
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: about that relationship and whether or not he and McDermott

974
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: could no longer work together when.

975
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 19: We acquired players and this isn't changing going forward to him,

976
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 19: whether it's a draft or free agency. The personnel department,

977
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 19: we're not just saying, hey we're taking this player, Hey

978
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 19: we're signing this player. We share in those conversations. Now,

979
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 19: sometimes the decision has got to be made, and sometimes

980
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 19: I don't always sign the player that I think is

981
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 19: the best or or, and sometimes I do, and maybe

982
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 19: the coach doesn't. You have to make a decision. What Terry,

983
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 19: you know, without has said was the proverbial playoff wall.

984
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 19: So I don't think that's anything dissolved. I think that

985
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 19: was the decision he made. We were still communicating through

986
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 19: last draft, through last offseason. You know, it was a

987
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 19: heavy defensive draft, and Sean was very involved and his

988
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 19: and his coaches in the selections that we were making

989
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 19: and getting the guys on the field and develop them.

990
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 19: So I don't think it got to a point where

991
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,800
Speaker 19: we were signing or drafting players, you know, out of alignment.

992
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, so look, you know you've got a

993
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: defensive coach who wants certain defensive players. They invested heavily

994
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 1: in defense. Then guys got as they needed to, you know,

995
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: and you know, wonder sometimes how tough it is to

996
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 1: get to the super Bowl in the NFL. Think of

997
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: if all those guys didn't get injured. Think of Michael

998
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: Hoyt for a moment, just running in on guys and

999
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 1: just beating him down. So yeah, there are there are frustrations,

1000
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 1: and there's a whole bunch of what if.

1001
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 9: I'd you like to be the Broncos right now you

1002
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 9: make it all the way the championship game and you

1003
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 9: lose your Star Corps.

1004
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 2: Sure?

1005
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, but you know, look the cumulative effort of

1006
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 1: everything that right now today, of everything that you know

1007
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 1: he did coach, Sean McDermott still comes back to, on average,

1008
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: every defense that he coached put up like thirty three

1009
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: point two points in these playoffs. And that's way too much.

1010
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: That's way too much. But that, of course is when

1011
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: Terry jumped in.

1012
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 10: I wouldn't use the word dissolve. We all debate and

1013
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 10: argue with each other in any organization. We're talking about

1014
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 10: a football team here. Everybody has their input and not

1015
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 10: everyone agrees on everything you do inside that organization. That

1016
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:04,720
Speaker 10: doesn't mean relationships dissolve. It's just to me, it's healthy

1017
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:09,720
Speaker 10: your foster debate. I disagree with you, like this guy's

1018
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 10: told me to f off a couple times, trust me,

1019
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 10: and uh, I strongly disagreed with some pretty good players

1020
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,240
Speaker 10: that he's drafted. I'm not mentioning names.

1021
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: No please do, but no, Terry, come on. There was

1022
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: no follow up in that room of reporters to go, Terry,

1023
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: come on, a couple of names. Terry, you know you

1024
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 1: want to do it.

1025
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 10: It doesn't dissolve the relationship. It's just the way we operate.

1026
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: Who would know Rich? Would Rich know?

1027
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 11: Well?

1028
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 3: I mean, you gotta ask Rich.

1029
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 2: You here, boy, you better call them.

1030
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 11: Come on?

1031
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: Which other team? Which other players didn't you like? Anyway?

1032
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 15: Is it that Josh Allen.

1033
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,879
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean's got a tough enough job at this point?

1034
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 1: You know there were a few other things said would

1035
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: just go through. Jay Skirsky asked if Josh Allen had

1036
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: anything to do with the decision.

1037
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 6: Terry, you mentioned the conversation with Josh after the fact.

1038
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 2: After your decision. I understand your desire to keep that private,

1039
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 2: but is the starting quarterback on board with this decision?

1040
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 10: The starting quarterback will be part of the team to

1041
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 10: help select a new coaching He's going to be working

1042
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 10: with us and anything else his feelings. I want to

1043
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:32,479
Speaker 10: keep that private. I don't want this and Josh's head.

1044
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 10: This was my decision, and I know I didn't answer

1045
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 10: your question, but I'm not going to hoping aroundabout way.

1046
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 10: It's you know, his personal opinion. I keep personal.

1047
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 3: Ooh.

1048
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: I think that was probably the best pr moment of

1049
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: the whole thing, that Terry Pagola did not interrupt himself

1050
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: and go hold on, I could Josh Allen absolutely and

1051
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: he said I was insane for firing Sean McDermott, but.

1052
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 3: Or arg or Josh Allison.

1053
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 1: Guy sucks, Yeah, I mean right, but either way he

1054
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: would put tremendous weight on Josh Allen. Look, it's bad

1055
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: enough that Brandon Bean is going to walk out into

1056
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 1: that new stadium and get booed loudly. You don't need

1057
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: Josh Allen getting booed too.

1058
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 9: Now, what about Jay Skirsky also had an article sources

1059
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 9: close to Josh Allen giving him some information on this,

1060
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 9: saying that he's appreciative of the eight years with McDermott,

1061
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 9: and he has faith in the leadership of the team

1062
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 9: under Pagola and Bean, and that he will take an

1063
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 9: active role in participating.

1064
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: Terry, could you interrupt that for a moment?

1065
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 3: Yes, yes he can, and I interrupt.

1066
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 1: I talked to Josh Allen about that, and he said

1067
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 1: he was happy that the guy says, don't let the

1068
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,959
Speaker 1: door hit his ass on the way up. No, no, Terry.

1069
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: They talked a little bit about Brandon Bean pulling a

1070
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 1: power play. If I am trying to read this, it's

1071
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: that meeting that everybody keeps bringing up where Sean McDermott

1072
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: was sitting in the room with both Bean, I guess

1073
00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 1: and Terry Pagola. They said it didn't happen, but enough

1074
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: people have said it did it.

1075
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 3: Maybe they're saying Vic Cruchci's one of the one leading

1076
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 3: the charge on that one.

1077
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: Yep, and he's got pretty good sources. Vic benat this

1078
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 1: a long time. I would think he's got.

1079
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 3: Some pretty decent he's standing by it.

1080
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 2: He should.

1081
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: I would trust for Crucci absolutely over the years and

1082
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 1: all the you know hard and Vic's not the one

1083
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: to just try to make a lot of noise like

1084
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: Vick is pretty you know, to the to the vest

1085
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 1: on some things. But so he said that and I

1086
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: would believe it. But there's this meeting they haven't And

1087
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 1: at one point Sean McDermott is trying to make a

1088
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 1: case that this roster is lacking, and it seemed to

1089
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 1: piss off Terry Pagola, Like for me, it sounds like

1090
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,760
Speaker 1: at that point a line was crossed with Terry, because

1091
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:42,919
Speaker 1: he's the one who directed that press content.

1092
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 3: The shot would be a Brandon bean though.

1093
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 9: If McDermott's saying that right, if he's complaining about the roster,

1094
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 9: that's a shot at Brandon Bean.

1095
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: And it did not sit with Terry Pagola. And when

1096
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:57,280
Speaker 1: you put out a press release that says something along

1097
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 1: the lines of it was admirable what he he did,

1098
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,919
Speaker 1: that is such a awe. Isn't that cute? He gave

1099
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: it his best shot. That's such damning with faint praise

1100
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: my god. Admirable that's what you said to me, It

1101
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 1: sounds like Terry Pagola. And they did throw mc you know,

1102
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 1: Sean did, or rather Terry threw Sean under the bus

1103
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: a couple of times. That's a dude who's pissed off.

1104
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:20,359
Speaker 1: I get the feeling he's pissed off at Sean mcder

1105
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: now why, I don't know, but it seems.

1106
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 9: We do know that McDermott made a couple of public

1107
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 9: statements that didn't necessarily directly say it, but he talked

1108
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 9: about wide receivers, you know, and not getting one of

1109
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 9: the trade deadline. I mean he's made a couple of

1110
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 9: comments about Jacoby Myers.

1111
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just think and maybe that's stuff too, And

1112
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: it's just I think it's been eating at Terry and.

1113
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 9: I think he's like that son of a bitch that

1114
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 9: I think about some of those wide receivers that went

1115
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 9: right at the deadline, Rushi Shaheed.

1116
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 3: I mean that would have been a nice pickup too.

1117
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 1: And I think Terry's been fuming. That's why he said

1118
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 1: something like admirable. That's why he kept throwing, That's why

1119
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:58,240
Speaker 1: he kept interrupting to try and throw throw Sean McDermott

1120
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: under the bus. I mean, listen to her lofts.

1121
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,399
Speaker 21: There are moments in the press conference that I want

1122
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 21: to say yes, but I do think there's a lot

1123
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 21: of the moments where I walk away and say that

1124
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 21: was a disaster.

1125
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 10: A disaster I think one Sean McDermott deserved better.

1126
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1127
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 1: Well, the reason he didn't get better is because he's

1128
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: pissed off Terry in some way. And why we're not

1129
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 1: exactly short. Scott Grambling is joining us next, and initially

1130
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 1: we were hoping that we just simply be able to

1131
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: talk about coach Odds, but you know, we figured would

1132
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: at least ask him a little bit about that press

1133
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: conference if maybe it somehow filtered downstate Scott Grambling, good morning,

1134
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 1: how are you.

1135
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 2: I'm doing well. I hope everybody up there is doing

1136
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 2: better than it seems, because boy, what a what a

1137
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 2: tough beat over the weekend.

1138
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 1: It was rough. It was all over the place, I

1139
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 1: mean from you know, the way that the game worked out,

1140
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 1: the jobbing by the refs, and I don't know if

1141
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 1: you've given any more deep thought into that, but that

1142
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 1: you know, we still the firing of Sean McDermott really

1143
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 1: sort of pulled the plug on how much we just

1144
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: wanted to scream about the refs all this week and

1145
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: how if, if nothing else, you can make that as

1146
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 1: a fifty to fifty proposition that yes, fifty percent, you

1147
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 1: can make the case that he caught it. Fifty percent

1148
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: You could say that was an interception, But we always

1149
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,320
Speaker 1: thought ties went to the offense.

1150
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 3: In three of the last four cases we found it.

1151
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 3: Did you know it worked in the eye.

1152
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 9: It's worked against the bills every time it happens, just

1153
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 9: like the pass interference calls or lack of pass interference calls,

1154
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 9: you know, like.

1155
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 1: Oh, you're talking about all the all the plays that

1156
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 1: happened very similarly afterwards.

1157
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 3: Sure, I mean last.

1158
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 9: Last a year ago, you know, and against the Chiefs,

1159
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 9: the Cole Bischoplin, they gave it to the offense. We

1160
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 9: saw the next day, we saw DeVonta Adams, same situation.

1161
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 9: There was an Aaron Rodgers play earlier this year that

1162
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 9: was again going to the quarterback. All very pretty much

1163
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 9: the same situation, and they gave it to the offense

1164
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 9: except against us, and just the repsident, like I was saying,

1165
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 9: they didn't call pass interference on Cooks getting molested in

1166
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 9: the end zone, but yet one of lesser, two of

1167
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 9: lesser called against the Bills.

1168
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 1: And it's a game, and it's a game of one play.

1169
00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 1: You know, as much as you want to say, well,

1170
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: what shouldn't have come to that, but games come down

1171
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: to one place. So first the catch any thought, Scott,

1172
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 1: Oh boy, yeah, I'll tell you.

1173
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 2: Just the fact that they didn't review it sort of

1174
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 2: lending to believe they did not they meaning an NFL

1175
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 2: did not want to get into a situation where the

1176
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 2: entire world has seen that from ten different angles. And look,

1177
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 2: it's close to a fifty to fifty. It really is.

1178
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 2: It could go either way. And I just think that

1179
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 2: the fact that in real time it was called an interception,

1180
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 2: they were not going to show that from ten different

1181
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 2: slow mo frame by frame angles and overturn it got

1182
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 2: it all right.

1183
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:44,919
Speaker 1: Second one, would you have Would you have fired Sean

1184
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 1: McDermott as head coach?

1185
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 2: I would not have. I just think that, Well, it's

1186
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,800
Speaker 2: a tough question to answer because I would sort of

1187
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,280
Speaker 2: and not to dodge it, but I would have a plan.

1188
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 2: So what's the plan? What's the plan from ownership? And

1189
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 2: I think what we saw out of the press conference

1190
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:09,839
Speaker 2: yesterday me was quite disturbing. It would be disturbing as

1191
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:13,280
Speaker 2: a Bills fan. That is, okay, this is an owner

1192
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 2: that does not have a plan. He's talking about walking

1193
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 2: to the locker room and seeing people crying and that

1194
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 2: made him decide he's going to fire the head coach. Now,

1195
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 2: that's a very emotional way to make a decision. It's

1196
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 2: a non strategic way to make a decision. So they

1197
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 2: don't have a plan, they don't have leadership at the top,

1198
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 2: and that, more than anything, is what separates these NFL

1199
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 2: teams is the teams that have the better ownership and

1200
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 2: have leadership and have a plan and can build a

1201
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 2: culture tend to succeed more than those that don't. And

1202
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 2: that became evident to me yesterday that the Bills don't

1203
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 2: have the leadership at the top that they need to

1204
00:57:55,560 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 2: be a serious contender as a franchise. They just they

1205
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 2: got lucky with Josh, and Josh keeps carrying them to

1206
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 2: this point and they just don't have the leadership to

1207
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 2: be able to get a pass. And part of not

1208
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 2: having that leadership is building a proper roster around that

1209
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:18,959
Speaker 2: quarterback and having a plan, and you know, a plan

1210
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 2: that's going to get you through. And I know Terry

1211
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 2: liked to brag about the seeds that they've had in

1212
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 2: recent years. Well part of that is because the AFC

1213
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 2: East was so down and now it's not that way,

1214
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 2: at least in New England. New England looks like they're

1215
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 2: going to be a competitor because they have their equivalent

1216
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 2: of Josh Allen. I'm not saying Drake May is as

1217
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 2: good as Josh Allen. If I had to have a

1218
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 2: quarterback win a game right now, I would take Josh Allen.

1219
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 2: But Drake May is ascending and the bills. Now they've

1220
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 2: kind of been pushed back a little bit, and you

1221
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 2: have a you have an owner who just doesn't seem

1222
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 2: to have a plan. So in that regard, you know what,

1223
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,919
Speaker 2: I've fired mcderm I wouldn't have done so without a plan.

1224
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 2: And it became clear yesterday that they don't have a plan.

1225
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I was thinking too, Like I was

1226
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: hoping that there Terry was gonna come on and go.

1227
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 1: I have my consultants and we talked and we you know,

1228
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 1: took a dive deep into this, and we've got stats

1229
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 1: and we've watched this defense and it's just not up

1230
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 1: to snuff. And if he did, he didn't verbalize it.

1231
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: And that's and that is troubling. That's that's bad. I

1232
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 1: wonder a little bit because I keep drawing parallels and

1233
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 1: you watch the New England Patriots obsessively, and so I

1234
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 1: keep drawing parallels to the wide receivers, for example, and

1235
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 1: Drake May is throwing to two sixth round picks. Yes,

1236
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 1: Steffan Diggs, but on the back end of his Steffan Diggs,

1237
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 1: but two six round picks. And also Drake May made

1238
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 1: a ton of mistakes. There were a whole bunch of turnovers,

1239
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,959
Speaker 1: and so does Terry Pagola. Look at the New England

1240
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 1: Patriots and go, they fired a coach and they got

1241
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 1: a better one, and now they're ascending. And any coach

1242
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 1: is gonna have Josh Allen and that's gonna be tough

1243
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 1: to screw up. So even a mediocre coach could at

1244
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 1: least shake things up in the room. Hold the guy's

1245
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 1: accountab little bit more, I don't know, and so he's like,

1246
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 1: I'm rolling the dice, but I think I could do

1247
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 1: better than this coach, and if New England could do it,

1248
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 1: we could do it.

1249
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 2: Any thoughts, Yeah, I think it's just very shortsighted. I

1250
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 2: think that you know, what we often see in the

1251
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 2: NFL is a lot of pendulum swings in the way

1252
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 2: the games played. Right, Mahomes comes into the game, into

1253
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 2: the league, and then you know, he's a quarterback that

1254
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 2: can buy time and throw the ball deep. And I'm

1255
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 2: simplifying everything here, but what ends up happening is so

1256
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 2: a lot of teams start playing two deep safeties and

1257
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 2: it's like we're gonna we're not gonna get beat over

1258
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 2: the top. And that's something that the Bills have done. Now.

1259
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 2: What the Bills haven't done in complementing that is realizing

1260
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 2: what the league is going to now is more running

1261
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 2: the football with multiple backs and bigger backs. And the

1262
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 2: Bills still have a lot of smallish, fast, good and

1263
01:00:55,120 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 2: coverage linebackers, but they're very susceptible to ends up running

1264
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 2: the football now. Sean Payton is so stubborn and hates

1265
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 2: to run the football. He just loves to air it

1266
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 2: out that the Broncos didn't take advantage of that in

1267
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 2: the game, which which surprised me until I remember it

1268
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 2: was Sean Payton was coaching that team and he just

1269
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 2: refused to run the football. So, you know, to kind

1270
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 2: of answer your question, I guess in a roundabout way,

1271
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 2: it kind of goes back while I was saying before,

1272
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 2: which is well, who's the guy? And what struck me

1273
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 2: yesterday with this being such an emotional decision. Yeah, I

1274
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 2: think it's it's Dable or Brady because what Pagoula is

1275
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 2: trying to sell now is the fact that we're good enough.

1276
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 2: We just had this coach that wasn't able to get

1277
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 2: us over the top. So I think they're gonna go

1278
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 2: with somebody familiar and those two guys are obviously very

1279
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 2: familiar in very similar ways, and that's the way they're

1280
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 2: gonna go. But to me, that is not that is

1281
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 2: not a plan. It just doesn't seem like anybody has

1282
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 2: really taken in the time to say, oh, here's how

1283
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 2: the league has kind of changed in recent years. And

1284
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 2: you know mcdermot's guilty of that as well, where he

1285
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 2: he has a philosophy and part of that philosophy was

1286
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 2: born in Carolina where he had a lot of success

1287
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 2: as a defensive coordinator, which is when the league was changing.

1288
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 2: Let's have fast linebackers that can cover over the middle.

1289
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 2: And we've talked about it a lot during the season,

1290
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 2: how good the Bills were defending opposing tight ends. Well,

1291
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 2: that only gets you so far, and I think that

1292
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 2: quite frankly, the ownership in front office has been lazy

1293
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 2: in recent years, just relying on Josh Allen too much

1294
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 2: and one guy can only do so much, and they

1295
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 2: just have not built a roster that has a real

1296
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 2: culture and a real strategy behind it as being a

1297
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 2: championship winning roster.

1298
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 3: All good points a quick question.

1299
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 9: You mentioned they don't appear to have a plan, but

1300
01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 9: what if their plan was Brian Daviles say, I mean

1301
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 9: they can't really could they come out right now and

1302
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 9: say that, you know what I mean?

1303
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 3: I mean, maybe they do have a plan that they

1304
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 3: just can't say.

1305
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 2: Right But it was schred It was it was really

1306
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 2: that was such a wonky at best interview with yesterday.

1307
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 2: They all are they are, yeah, exactly. I mean, if

1308
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 2: you're if you're a leader, there's a way to communicate

1309
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 2: it without communicating it specifically.

1310
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 9: Hold on, Terry wants to interrupt, but I mean he

1311
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 9: can't say it. I mean, he he has awkward press

1312
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 9: conferences every time. He can't really say we wanted to

1313
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 9: bring Brian Dable back, so that's why we fired him.

1314
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 9: I mean, I don't think he can say that.

1315
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 2: No, he can't say that specifically, but he can say, Look,

1316
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 2: you know, we we've talked about the philosophy of the

1317
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 2: team and one's gonna take to move forward, and we

1318
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 2: have some candidates in mind, and we think we're going

1319
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 2: to be a better football team and a better organization

1320
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 2: moving forward with the change we make. I mean, come

1321
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:01,320
Speaker 2: on to blame on this. And I know we were

1322
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 2: talking before about the you know, the Patriots having these

1323
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 2: sixth round, seventh round receivers who are contributing, well, you know,

1324
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 2: at least they're getting these guys in the building and

1325
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 2: they're starting to coach them up. They're not going out

1326
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 2: and taking guys off the scrap heap. And I don't

1327
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 2: mean they disrespect your guy like Brandon Cooks. That's not

1328
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 2: how you build a championship winning team, is yeah. Or

1329
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 2: you know, and look at the Steelers going out and

1330
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 2: getting Valves scantling and getting Adams steeling. That stuff doesn't work.

1331
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 2: You don't get these guys. What you do is you

1332
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 2: get young players in the locker room and you start

1333
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 2: to you start to build them with a culture that

1334
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 2: you know they can ascend and become better players. And

1335
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 2: I know this. I don't mean this to be a

1336
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 2: dig pun sort of intended at the Bills fans, but

1337
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 2: Stefan Diggs, the influence he's had in New England on

1338
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 2: these younger receivers, say what you will about and I

1339
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 2: get it. He outstayed his welcome Inuffalo, but that has

1340
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 2: been the key piece of this Patriots team. He's really

1341
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 2: set an example for those guys to become real professionals.

1342
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 2: And that's really part of the transformation that has taken

1343
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 2: place this year in New England.

1344
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 3: A now one thousand yard year for him as well.

1345
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 1: Yeah and so, and that's where you know, you've got

1346
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 1: to be able to coach crazy. Sometimes Vrabel could and

1347
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 1: it seemed like Sean McDermott Coomton.

1348
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's Diggs gets crazy after about three seasons.

1349
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 1: So you think he's got one more year left. I

1350
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 1: don't know. He's kind of mature up at some point,

1351
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 1: Jesus see.

1352
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 9: I mean I listened to his press conference yesterday, and

1353
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 9: I mean he sounded great in his press conference.

1354
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1355
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 1: No, I mean, you know, you hope that the maturity continues,

1356
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 1: all right. So, Scott, the one thing that we did

1357
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 1: bring you on for this morning's Scout grambling on and

1358
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 1: we'll talk more about the championship games tomorrow if you

1359
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:45,439
Speaker 1: do have the time. But this is just for head coach.

1360
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 1: So for a head coach today before the line changes.

1361
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:51,439
Speaker 1: If we were going to lay money down on maybe

1362
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 1: a shore fire bet and a long shot, what do

1363
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 1: you think have you thought about this? Who should we

1364
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:56,440
Speaker 1: bet on?

1365
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 2: Yeah? I would bet on Brady and I know Dabele's

1366
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 2: the favorite, but I kind of feel like and I

1367
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 2: didn't feel this way, uh before the press conference, but

1368
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 2: after the press conference, I feel like the message that

1369
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 2: they want to send is no, no, no, We're good.

1370
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 2: Everything here is good. It was just the head coach.

1371
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 2: They really threw McDermott under the bus, and it was, uh,

1372
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 2: it was very unbecoming of of ownership and that you know,

1373
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 2: they had every.

1374
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 8: Opposity you could see what Sorry, sorry about that, Terry said,

1375
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 8: But yeah, I would.

1376
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna end up being Brady. I think

1377
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 2: they're gonna send the message that, uh not we everything

1378
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 2: in place is here, We've made every right decision. It

1379
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 2: was just McDermott was the problem. And uh, and that's

1380
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 2: that if if you're gonna look at a long shot

1381
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 2: and uh boy, I'm really doing it to myself here.

1382
01:06:57,480 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 11: Uh.

1383
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:04,440
Speaker 2: Nathan Sheel is the passing game coordinator with the Rams,

1384
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:08,440
Speaker 2: and look, because the Rams are still alive, you're not

1385
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 2: hearing much. But if the Rams put up a proper

1386
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 2: offensive game plan in Seattle, and I think they're going to.

1387
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 2: We could talk about it more tomorrow. But after mcveigh's

1388
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 2: beating himself up over some of the crummy play call

1389
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 2: and it was crummy against the against the Bears. Boy,

1390
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 2: I think he's spending extra time in the lab this week,

1391
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 2: and they have the potential to roll out a very

1392
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 2: impressive game plan, and I think that would that would

1393
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 2: kind of boost Shielhaus's candidacy, And that's who I would

1394
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 2: I don't think he's gonna get the job, but I

1395
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 2: think if you're looking for a long shot, and you

1396
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 2: know somebody that's kind of off the radar, at least

1397
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 2: at this point, we have seen in the past teams

1398
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 2: end up making the Super Bowl, some of these assistants

1399
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 2: kind of start getting recognized more than before him.

1400
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 3: I mean, that's another guy that's name has been popping

1401
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 3: up a lot.

1402
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's uh, he's a kid that He's not one

1403
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 2: that that I would bet on. I mean, I think

1404
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 2: he has a better shot than shiel has to get it,

1405
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 2: But I don't know. I kind of don't feel like

1406
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:23,760
Speaker 2: Kubiak is necessarily the kind of fit. Again, I did

1407
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 2: read a lot into that press conference, but I think

1408
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:28,439
Speaker 2: there was a lot there. I don't think they want

1409
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 2: to necessarily bring in a guy who has his own philosophy.

1410
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 2: I think they want to really have that philosophy come

1411
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 2: from the top. I mean, you know, just the fact

1412
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:40,760
Speaker 2: that the owners at the press conference that that shouldn't happen.

1413
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:44,520
Speaker 2: You just promoted this guy to the president of operations,

1414
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 2: Like why do you need to be sitting there and

1415
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 2: interrupting him throughout the way. So I think Kubiak is

1416
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:52,599
Speaker 2: too much of an outsider. Now the thing, Shieljas obviously

1417
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 2: is also an outsider, but I think there's a potential

1418
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 2: that they would view him as being young and mouldible

1419
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 2: and would would listen to these complete geniuses that they

1420
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:07,679
Speaker 2: have in the ownership group and the president of football

1421
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 2: Operations or whatever the heck that that title is. I

1422
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 2: kind of think that they want somebody who's more their guy,

1423
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 2: and I feel like Kubiak would bring in, uh, you know,

1424
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 2: too much other other experience into the building, which most

1425
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:26,760
Speaker 2: owners would be good. But when you have a lack

1426
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 2: of owners, lack of leadership among your front office, I

1427
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 2: could see them not going in that direction for that reason.

1428
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 2: You know, you said, that's my reason.

1429
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 3: You said something there that I didn't really think about

1430
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 3: too much until I heard you actually say it.

1431
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 9: Most owners don't do press conferences. I mean, when owners

1432
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 9: speak at press conferences, It usually leads to stuff like this.

1433
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:49,599
Speaker 9: It usually leads to bad quotes.

1434
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 3: I mean, I won't make They don't let Jerry.

1435
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:53,680
Speaker 1: They don't like Jerry. Jerry wants to be.

1436
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 9: Does he does a radio show every week. He puts

1437
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 9: his foot in his mouth every week. But most owners don't.

1438
01:09:58,600 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know it. That's the rea.

1439
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 2: Yes, and that's that's that's the reason we're going on

1440
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 2: a generation and a half of the Cowboys not winning

1441
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 2: anything even remotely meaningful. But yeah, that's that's exactly it.

1442
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 2: These owners, it's gotten out of control. It is by

1443
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 2: far the worst ownership group in the history of the

1444
01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 2: league because you have a lot of owners that you

1445
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:21,679
Speaker 2: don't have like the Rooneys and these guys that came

1446
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 2: up families running organizations. You have people that ran other

1447
01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 2: businesses and they think they can run their football team

1448
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:33,439
Speaker 2: the way they've run these other businesses. And yeah, and

1449
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 2: in some cases they're not even doing it that way.

1450
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 2: They're getting more involved than they were in their other businesses.

1451
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 2: But they can't help themselves. The ego is way too high.

1452
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 2: And you also have the issue these days of if

1453
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 2: you're losing franchise, you still make money and that's not

1454
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:52,760
Speaker 2: the way it used to be. It used to be

1455
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:55,639
Speaker 2: back in the seventies, if you were a perpetual loser,

1456
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 2: people weren't coming into the seats. Your game was blacked

1457
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:02,120
Speaker 2: out in the low market, nobody was following it. That's

1458
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 2: not the way it is now. So there's kind of

1459
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 2: in their mind. I know they don't think about it

1460
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 2: consciously this way, but I think subconsciously it's I'm the man.

1461
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:14,720
Speaker 2: I've got the biggest ego here in the building, and

1462
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:17,680
Speaker 2: I need to get front and center because I'm the

1463
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 2: star here. It's my franchise, and if it goes right,

1464
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take credit for it goes wrong. I got

1465
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:25,719
Speaker 2: people to throw under the bus, and in this case

1466
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:26,680
Speaker 2: it was McDermott.

1467
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really interesting. A right, Scott Grambling. By the way,

1468
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:31,200
Speaker 1: this is why we bring Grambling on. Throw your money

1469
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 1: down maybe on day Ball as a favorite or Joe Brady,

1470
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 1: but Nathan Shielhouse, past game coordinator for the lat on

1471
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:41,599
Speaker 1: that one. That's a plus one thousand man ten bucks

1472
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 1: can make me a millionaire. Nice job, Nice job, Scott. Hey,

1473
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:46,599
Speaker 1: we'll talk to you tomorrow about the championship games.

1474
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 2: Okay, it sounds great. Guys, have a good night.

1475
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 3: Thanks that nice.

1476
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 1: Next up, longtime friend of the show, Sal May Runa

1477
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:57,519
Speaker 1: from the Rochester DNC Rochester Democrat and Chronicle. Good morning, Sal, Hey,

1478
01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:00,640
Speaker 1: how you doing right, Beth? We want to play the

1479
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 1: question Heard around the world. So there's Sal He's just

1480
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 1: getting ready to ask a question. I think it was

1481
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 1: about roster construction more than anything else, and then this happened.

1482
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 10: Yeah, I can I interrupt. I'll address the Keon situation.

1483
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:24,479
Speaker 10: The coaching staff pushed to draft Kon. I'm not saying

1484
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 10: Brandon wouldn't have drafted him, but he wasn't his next choice.

1485
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 10: That was Brandon being a team player and taking advice

1486
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 10: of his coaching staff who felt strongly about the player.

1487
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:44,519
Speaker 1: And by the way, since we've played this now, every

1488
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:46,320
Speaker 1: time that we do play it, it seems like it

1489
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 1: absolutely needs this song to play in the background as

1490
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean is dying a slow, miserable death.

1491
01:12:57,960 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 2: Cell.

1492
01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:00,719
Speaker 1: When you asked the question and you started hearing the answer,

1493
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:02,880
Speaker 1: what was going on in your mind? What were you

1494
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 1: thinking about?

1495
01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:07,880
Speaker 11: Yeah, that was really a surprise. The biggest surprise was

1496
01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 11: that Begula even answered any questions. But then for him

1497
01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 11: to interrupt Brandon Bean to answer questions really at us

1498
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 11: all kind of like blown away, look my question, And

1499
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 11: I got some heat for it, like I was trying

1500
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 11: to get a gotcha answered. That was not the case

1501
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 11: at all. I wanted to know from Brandon Bean how

1502
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 11: he was going to fix the fact that, as I said,

1503
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 11: he has failed in free agency and with the draft

1504
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 11: pick of Keon Coleman.

1505
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 2: That was the question.

1506
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 11: He has failed to give Josh Allen the weapons he needs,

1507
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 11: especially at wide receiver. And just as he's ready to

1508
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 11: answer that question, which I did get an answer for

1509
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:48,400
Speaker 11: him later after Bagula spotted off, Terry jumped in and

1510
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 11: I don't have any idea why he would have offered

1511
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 11: that information, like why he would have said that the

1512
01:13:56,120 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 11: Coleman pick wasn't Brandon Bean's. The coaching staff pushed, pushed

1513
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:03,800
Speaker 11: for it. That is a bizarre thing to say from

1514
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 11: the owner, especially with a guy who's still on the

1515
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 11: team that they have to figure out what they're gonna

1516
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:08,600
Speaker 11: do with It.

1517
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:09,759
Speaker 2: Was really crazy.

1518
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:13,519
Speaker 11: And then later being properly owned up to the fact that, yeah,

1519
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:16,599
Speaker 11: well I'm the one who made the pick. Remember, guys,

1520
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 11: they went to bed that night after the first round ended,

1521
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:22,640
Speaker 11: they had traded back twice to get they had to

1522
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:23,839
Speaker 11: ended up with the first.

1523
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:24,599
Speaker 2: Pick of the second round.

1524
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 11: They went to bed figuring they were gonna pick Ken Coleman.

1525
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 11: They had decided that's what they were going to do,

1526
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:33,320
Speaker 11: so I don't you know, they could have changed their

1527
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 11: mind all day on that Friday and they never did.

1528
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 2: It being made the pick.

1529
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:39,360
Speaker 11: Don't know what PLA was talking about there.

1530
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:41,920
Speaker 1: It's interesting. I keep thinking when I watched Terry, and

1531
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 1: he really doesn't need to do more press conferences. But

1532
01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 1: when I watched Terry, probably not. He has strong dat energy.

1533
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 1: But then also there's a there's a little bit about him,

1534
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 1: I think, being pissed off at Sean McDermott for something.

1535
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 1: And I know it's been reported that there's this meeting

1536
01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 1: that they had a couple of weeks ago about roster construction.

1537
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:03,000
Speaker 1: And if it came out from vic Rucci, I would

1538
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 1: assume that you would think this too. That Carucci has

1539
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:08,519
Speaker 1: good sources, he's not a clown, he's not making stuff up,

1540
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:10,640
Speaker 1: So if it came from him, that there's got to

1541
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:13,040
Speaker 1: be some sort of smoke if fire, and that there

1542
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:15,360
Speaker 1: was a meeting and that at one point, Sean McDermott

1543
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:17,560
Speaker 1: was talking about roster construction. He didn't think this was

1544
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:20,439
Speaker 1: a talented enough team. And it's like he said something

1545
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:24,360
Speaker 1: that pissed Terry off, because Terry doesn't seem like, oh,

1546
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:26,200
Speaker 1: he's a good coach, but he just didn't go and

1547
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:31,040
Speaker 1: get us over the hump. Terry seems pissed, angry. There's

1548
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 1: something different about the way he talks about Sean McDermott

1549
01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 1: threw him under the bus a couple of times, went

1550
01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:37,400
Speaker 1: out of his way to throw him under the bus

1551
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:39,680
Speaker 1: a couple of times. And then also that word that

1552
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:42,120
Speaker 1: he used in the press conference, admirable.

1553
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 3: Oh that was in a statement, Oh, admirable.

1554
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 1: Admirable. Admirable is when you took a driver's test two

1555
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:51,840
Speaker 1: or three times and you failed, and it's like it's admirable,

1556
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:56,640
Speaker 1: you gave it a shot. Admirable's a terrible word. Does

1557
01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 1: that ring a bell with.

1558
01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:57,720
Speaker 2: You at all?

1559
01:15:57,840 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 10: Is that?

1560
01:15:58,080 --> 01:15:59,559
Speaker 1: Am I going down the right road?

1561
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1562
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:03,799
Speaker 11: Look, I have been very so I was very surprised

1563
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:08,760
Speaker 11: yesterday at the lack of recognition for what Sean McDermott

1564
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:11,599
Speaker 11: accomplished her. I mean, they both made their opening statement

1565
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 11: and thanked him for you know, thanked him for you know,

1566
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 11: what he did, but there was like nothing else beyond that,

1567
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:19,719
Speaker 11: and it did feel like at times Pegoula was throwing

1568
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 11: McDermott under the bus. I was shocked by that, because

1569
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:26,320
Speaker 11: this guy pulled this team out of the gutter. And

1570
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:28,719
Speaker 11: you know, first of all, I didn't think he deserved

1571
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 11: to be fired. I think it's a bad move, but

1572
01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 11: just to really not recognize what he did was a

1573
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:37,639
Speaker 11: big oversight I think for both men. I mean, Bean

1574
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 11: did a little bit more than Pegola for sure. Look,

1575
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:44,760
Speaker 11: I can tell you this right now. Vic Kruschi is

1576
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:47,479
Speaker 11: one of my best friends in the business. We've worked

1577
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:51,679
Speaker 11: together for almost forty years covering that team. If he's

1578
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 11: got it, he's got it, and believe me, Vic usually

1579
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 11: always gets it. He is as well sourced as any

1580
01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 11: reporter that I've ever known, So I have no doubt

1581
01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 11: that if he got that there was a meeting five

1582
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 11: weeks ago and that went down. I guarantee you that happened,

1583
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:10,400
Speaker 11: and Begoula was just covering his ask yesterday and lied

1584
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 11: about it. Dick's not going to lie about something like that,

1585
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 11: and quite frankly, it was clear, especially in the second

1586
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:20,680
Speaker 11: half of this season that McDermott and Bean had their

1587
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:24,040
Speaker 11: relationship and eroded. You could just listen to what Sean

1588
01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:26,680
Speaker 11: was saying in press conferences and you guys know all

1589
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 11: this the Darius Slave fiasco. He was very pointed about that,

1590
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 11: about avoiding that topic, the wide receiver situation. There were

1591
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:38,439
Speaker 11: subtle hints all along the way that you could tell

1592
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 11: there was something quite not right.

1593
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 2: Now.

1594
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:41,519
Speaker 11: Did I think it was going to end up with

1595
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:44,599
Speaker 11: one of them getting fired? No, but it was there,

1596
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:47,439
Speaker 11: and you know, Bean can say there was nothing wrong,

1597
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 11: the relationship didn't dissolve. I don't believe that either for

1598
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:52,120
Speaker 11: a minute.

1599
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 1: So the question is what did what did Sean McDermott say?

1600
01:17:56,760 --> 01:18:00,120
Speaker 1: Or is it maybe it's an accumulative effect where you know,

1601
01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:02,760
Speaker 1: it's just been ongoing and it's just it's like he's

1602
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:07,519
Speaker 1: been rubbing Terry Bacolda the wrong way presnference. Finally he's like,

1603
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 1: screw this guy, I've had enough of this. And then

1604
01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:13,200
Speaker 1: he sees Josh Allen crying and it all just comes

1605
01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:16,080
Speaker 1: together and he's like, that's it. You know, I could

1606
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 1: quite frankly, I think if we were serious, we could

1607
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 1: take a group of all of us and coach this

1608
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 1: team to at least five hundred with Josh Allen as

1609
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:26,800
Speaker 1: our quarterback. So you just need getting that next year

1610
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:31,040
Speaker 1: with right. You just need someone with a little more. Now,

1611
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:33,680
Speaker 1: do you have a gut feeling of who might be

1612
01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 1: or do you have an opinion about who might be

1613
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:39,240
Speaker 1: a good coach to come in and not screw it

1614
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:39,800
Speaker 1: up too much?

1615
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:44,640
Speaker 11: You know, guys, one day morning, when I woke up

1616
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,760
Speaker 11: and went to Dunkin Donuts for my coffee, I had

1617
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:50,880
Speaker 11: no indication that Sean McDermott was going to get fired

1618
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:51,639
Speaker 11: a half hour later.

1619
01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:52,640
Speaker 2: It shocked me.

1620
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:55,280
Speaker 11: I did not expect it. So I have been you know,

1621
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:58,320
Speaker 11: sometimes you know your coach is gonna get fired and

1622
01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 11: you start thinking ahead, Okay, who's a good candidate?

1623
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:02,200
Speaker 2: Dude?

1624
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 11: I have no idea because I never thought I would

1625
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 11: have to be researching who are the good candidates to

1626
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:10,519
Speaker 11: take this job? So I really don't know, and I

1627
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:13,559
Speaker 11: don't know what they're thinking. Obviously, I don't have any clue.

1628
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 11: But you know, I can tell you that Brady already interviewed,

1629
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:20,760
Speaker 11: is going to get a serious consideration. I would expectable

1630
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 11: today is going to get serious consideration. But I also

1631
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:27,200
Speaker 11: would hope that they're going to wait for some of

1632
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:30,240
Speaker 11: these guys that are in these championship games this weekend

1633
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:33,719
Speaker 11: to be available to interview and not just go quickly

1634
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:37,439
Speaker 11: to the best candidate who's available right now, because I

1635
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 11: think they're probably are someome guys that they could talk to,

1636
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 11: you know, once they're available to talk to make this

1637
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:46,000
Speaker 11: a true, as Brandon Bean said, a true one hundred

1638
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 11: percent open search. I don't know who the guy is.

1639
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:51,280
Speaker 11: I really don't have an opinion that I can share

1640
01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 11: right now because I'm just not prepared quickly.

1641
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:55,599
Speaker 1: Well, by the way, so what's your donative choice? What's

1642
01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:56,439
Speaker 1: your donati of choice?

1643
01:19:57,520 --> 01:19:59,160
Speaker 11: Well, no, no, no, no donuts.

1644
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:03,280
Speaker 9: I want to go back to Kean Coleman, all right,

1645
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:05,920
Speaker 9: to the counts. I had two parts of this. So,

1646
01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:09,000
Speaker 9: first off, he said that the coaching staff one he

1647
01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 9: didn't throw. He didn't say McDermott specifically. I would think

1648
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:14,720
Speaker 9: that offense would have a little bit more influence on

1649
01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:17,559
Speaker 9: some of that than the defensive head coach. So who

1650
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:20,160
Speaker 9: who's our offensive corner Ken Dorsey at that time? Was

1651
01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:20,960
Speaker 9: was Dorsey one?

1652
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 3: Kean Coleman. And the second part of this is if

1653
01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:25,960
Speaker 3: you're Keon Coleman and you're hearing all this. What is

1654
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:28,320
Speaker 3: your thought about You're going back to this team next year?

1655
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:30,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I said.

1656
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:32,200
Speaker 11: He's still on the team. And for Pagoula to say

1657
01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:35,840
Speaker 11: what he said that was that was a pretty bold statement.

1658
01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:37,280
Speaker 2: It also leads me to believe.

1659
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:38,639
Speaker 11: That they might just want to move on from him,

1660
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 11: you know, try to find someone who would take them

1661
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:44,559
Speaker 11: off off their hands for maybe a seventh round pick

1662
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:47,160
Speaker 11: or or whatever. You know, you could cut them too,

1663
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 11: if the salary cap hit really isn't that bad. But yeah,

1664
01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:54,479
Speaker 11: I can't see quite how they move on with Kean Coleman.

1665
01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:57,040
Speaker 11: You know, maybe the new coach who comes in is

1666
01:20:57,080 --> 01:21:00,840
Speaker 11: an offensive guy and he looks at Coleman's body and said,

1667
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:03,080
Speaker 11: well I could do something with this, but hey, we've

1668
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:05,160
Speaker 11: seen two years of it and it hasn't work with

1669
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:07,560
Speaker 11: that guy. So you know, I think he might be

1670
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 11: moved off the roster.

1671
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:10,439
Speaker 1: You or that, you know, like you said that they

1672
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:12,599
Speaker 1: find a way to do it for Keyon, look, put

1673
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:14,840
Speaker 1: your head down and use this as motivation to get

1674
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:17,800
Speaker 1: a huge free agency contract when this thing ends, Like

1675
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 1: I'll show you.

1676
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:19,919
Speaker 3: Guys, I guess we'll know if Sean McDermott.

1677
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:22,560
Speaker 1: Maybe I just had that childishness in my head, but

1678
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:24,240
Speaker 1: I'd be like, I'll show you you so you know what.

1679
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:26,680
Speaker 11: So you know what, guys, that was that was the

1680
01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:29,360
Speaker 11: storyline last year, right, I mean, he came back from

1681
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:31,680
Speaker 11: the injury and did not play well at all, and

1682
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 11: both being in McDermott and their season ending press conference

1683
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:38,320
Speaker 11: made that point like they were disappointed. So that was

1684
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:40,760
Speaker 11: supposed to be the fuel that was going to get

1685
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:43,360
Speaker 11: this guy's asked in gear to get it done. And

1686
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:46,240
Speaker 11: by all accounts, I always laugh when I hear this, oh,

1687
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:48,160
Speaker 11: we had a great off season. Well no, he didn't

1688
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 11: catch any passes in the off season though they all said,

1689
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 11: for those two guys said he had a great off season,

1690
01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:56,400
Speaker 11: a great training camp, and then he you know, then

1691
01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:59,240
Speaker 11: he had that great first game against Baltimore. That was

1692
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:02,160
Speaker 11: supposed to be the moment right that he had gotten

1693
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:04,680
Speaker 11: it all figured out, that was the motivation and that

1694
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:07,320
Speaker 11: off season comment that they made, and then what happened.

1695
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 11: He completely hit the skids, did nothing. So no, now

1696
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:13,479
Speaker 11: we're gonna give him a second chance to go into

1697
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:16,360
Speaker 11: an off season with new motivation. I don't know, if

1698
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 11: that's the idea that I wouldn't want to be what

1699
01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:19,000
Speaker 11: he'd forced.

1700
01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 1: Last one is the big piece of the puzzle. This

1701
01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:24,960
Speaker 1: is Josh Allen and whether he was consulted. It sounds

1702
01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:28,160
Speaker 1: like he wasn't. And if that's the case, how does

1703
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:30,320
Speaker 1: he feel about all this moving forward? I don't know

1704
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:32,439
Speaker 1: how much, because I know that they had a tough

1705
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:35,640
Speaker 1: it seemed anyway, like you know, the reports were that

1706
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:38,560
Speaker 1: it was a little bit of a tough relationship early on.

1707
01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:41,560
Speaker 1: Maybe he didn't warm to him or otherwise.

1708
01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 3: A lot of guys said they'd walked through a wall

1709
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:43,760
Speaker 3: for that guy.

1710
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:46,639
Speaker 1: No, No, I'm talking about Josh Allen and Sean McDermot.

1711
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 1: The in the beginning. In the beginning, they seemed like

1712
01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:51,800
Speaker 1: it was a little but they've they've gotten better. I mean,

1713
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:53,040
Speaker 1: he had him at the wedding and such.

1714
01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:53,160
Speaker 4: So.

1715
01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:57,599
Speaker 1: But I just wonder if if Josh Allen, the statement

1716
01:22:57,640 --> 01:22:59,120
Speaker 1: that he put out a little while ago saying that

1717
01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:02,080
Speaker 1: he's all and everything like that, if you buy that,

1718
01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:05,120
Speaker 1: or if he even felt blindsided about the whole thing.

1719
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:07,800
Speaker 3: I you know, I kind of.

1720
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:10,640
Speaker 11: Think that he didn't expect McDermott to get fired, and

1721
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:12,799
Speaker 11: you know, look, guys, I'm not over.

1722
01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:13,519
Speaker 2: There every day.

1723
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:16,639
Speaker 11: I'm not in the meetings and all that stuff where

1724
01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:19,360
Speaker 11: we would really see them interacting together. But I never

1725
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:22,080
Speaker 11: got a sense that there was ever a problem between

1726
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:24,719
Speaker 11: McDermot and Allen. I just I just didn't I didn't

1727
01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:27,640
Speaker 11: see that. I think Josh really respected him as a

1728
01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 11: coach and what he was able to do with that

1729
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:32,719
Speaker 11: team and how he operated that team. You know, Allen

1730
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:34,880
Speaker 11: has always been part of well at least since I

1731
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:37,439
Speaker 11: guess maybe his third year. He's always been a part

1732
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:40,800
Speaker 11: of Sean's leadership group. He picked certain players every year

1733
01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:43,800
Speaker 11: to get the get the pulse of the locker room.

1734
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 11: They meet regularly, and Josh was always a part of that.

1735
01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:48,760
Speaker 11: So I don't buy this that.

1736
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:51,240
Speaker 2: There was some there was some tension between.

1737
01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:53,640
Speaker 11: Alan and McDermott. I think I think Alan was as

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01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 11: blindsided as anybody Sunday morning when they or Monday morning

1739
01:23:57,479 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 11: when this happened. And I don't think that he wanted

1740
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:01,880
Speaker 11: Sean to get fired. I don't think that at all.

1741
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:04,799
Speaker 11: Now he's going to be a good soldier moving forward

1742
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:08,559
Speaker 11: here and say, you know, thanks for your thanks for everything, Sean,

1743
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:10,560
Speaker 11: and now it's time to move on and he'll be

1744
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:13,479
Speaker 11: he'll work perfectly fine with the next guy. But no,

1745
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:15,679
Speaker 11: I didn't get the sense there was a problem between

1746
01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 11: those two.

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01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:19,320
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so from this point forward, you know,

1748
01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:21,160
Speaker 1: we've got to think about who the next uh, who

1749
01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:22,920
Speaker 1: the next coach is, and then you're gonna have to

1750
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 1: race you know, that full hour on the ninety down

1751
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:27,000
Speaker 1: a buffalo to get to that.

1752
01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:28,679
Speaker 3: Press about two hours today with the snow.

1753
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:30,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna take it. But I mean when they

1754
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:32,160
Speaker 1: get a I mean, we have to think that there's

1755
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 1: going to be a coach hired in the next two weeks, right,

1756
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:36,160
Speaker 1: you don't want to go beyond that, do.

1757
01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:39,000
Speaker 11: You, Well, I mean it depends. I mean, if it's

1758
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:40,840
Speaker 11: a Super Bowl coach, it's going to be you know,

1759
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:44,000
Speaker 11: almost three weeks before they're able to talk to him. Yeah,

1760
01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:45,920
Speaker 11: I mean, you know, I've heard like people talking about

1761
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:48,640
Speaker 11: who they should be rooting for this weekend because it

1762
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:50,840
Speaker 11: would free up like if Seattle were to lose.

1763
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:53,040
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean there's you know, Quinn.

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01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 11: Coopiek is clearly a guy that I think they're gonna

1765
01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:58,280
Speaker 11: want to talk to or do you want the Rams

1766
01:24:58,320 --> 01:24:58,719
Speaker 11: to lose?

1767
01:24:59,160 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 2: And now you get to quit.

1768
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:02,920
Speaker 11: Look at they have a passing game coordinator I forget

1769
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:06,760
Speaker 11: his name, and christ Ula is the defensive coordinator. I mean,

1770
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:09,680
Speaker 11: they've got guys on that staff, right, Davis Webb has

1771
01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:12,960
Speaker 11: been a name Denver's quarterbacks coach. Maybe you want them

1772
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:15,880
Speaker 11: to lose, God, that means the Patriots would win. We

1773
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:18,559
Speaker 11: don't want the Patriots to win anything, but that would

1774
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:21,160
Speaker 11: free up Davis Webb this weekend or after this weekend

1775
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:23,800
Speaker 11: to get to be talked here. So you know, but look,

1776
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 11: they need to be prepared that two of these teams

1777
01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:28,160
Speaker 11: are going to go to the super Bowl, and if

1778
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:29,920
Speaker 11: they have coaches they want, we're gonna have to wait.

1779
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:32,920
Speaker 11: They can't just jump and you know, get impatient and

1780
01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:35,800
Speaker 11: pick the guy. Then maybe they don't want ahead of

1781
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:38,000
Speaker 11: one of those guys because it takes too long to

1782
01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:38,479
Speaker 11: get to him.

1783
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:40,360
Speaker 3: Right, because I think Anthony Lynn is still going to

1784
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:40,680
Speaker 3: be there.

1785
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:44,840
Speaker 11: Anthony Lynn is gonna be there. Yeah, I would be

1786
01:25:45,080 --> 01:25:47,200
Speaker 11: very surprised if Anthony Lynn is the.

1787
01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 2: Head coach of the Bills.

1788
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:49,960
Speaker 11: But you know they bought him in for an interview.

1789
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:52,479
Speaker 1: Fine, all right, so listen, sal you got to get

1790
01:25:52,520 --> 01:25:54,640
Speaker 1: down to the press conference. Nonetheless, because you need to

1791
01:25:54,680 --> 01:26:01,000
Speaker 1: ask that question that flips out terry and no terror.

1792
01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:04,519
Speaker 1: You can interrupt, Sal, nice work. We'll talk to you soon,

1793
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:08,719
Speaker 1: Sal Mayorana from the Rochester DNC. You take care of yourself, guys.

1794
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:10,800
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me there you go. Sal's been at

1795
01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:12,400
Speaker 1: this a long time. He's got a deep knowledge of

1796
01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:14,720
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills and in watching this in action. And

1797
01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:17,479
Speaker 1: you know, all these older reporters, especially right, they'll bring

1798
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:20,080
Speaker 1: up some of those names from the past, and how

1799
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:22,160
Speaker 1: that I think puts fear into all of us, right,

1800
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:26,439
Speaker 1: the chan Gailies, the Dick Jurons. Yes, no, we don't.

1801
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 1: We don't want to see a lot of that happen,

1802
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:31,920
Speaker 1: of course, but you know there's there's there could be

1803
01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:33,639
Speaker 1: some reward in what's going to happen.

1804
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:33,800
Speaker 2: Now.

1805
01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:36,120
Speaker 1: I don't have the wise brain cells on that. Right now,

1806
01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:39,000
Speaker 1: we don't have a choice. Sean ain't coming back, so

1807
01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:40,800
Speaker 1: we got to move forward. That's it for today's show.

1808
01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:42,000
Speaker 1: Thank you for listening back tomorrow.

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01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:42,200
Speaker 2: Six.

1810
01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:42,840
Speaker 1: What do you want to ask?

1811
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:44,439
Speaker 3: Thanks for the ride, man, I had the time in

1812
01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 3: my life. Oh