Speaker 1: We've got the burn Dog, the one and only mister
Speaker 1: Berman that we're all very very excited for. Steve Berman
Speaker 1: of the Athletic joining us here to talk about giants
Speaker 1: and some forty nine ers.
Speaker 2: Mister Berman, what's going on? How are you doing?
Speaker 3: I'm doing well, bro.
Speaker 1: How are you excellence? You know, just enjoying what the
Speaker 1: summer has to offer. This is the last night of
Speaker 1: summer for my kids because they go back to school
Speaker 1: now on August sixth.
Speaker 2: For some odd reason that I don't start.
Speaker 1: Back in our day, Steve, we used to go back
Speaker 1: to school after Labor Day or right there around. And
Speaker 1: now they're like, nah, we got to get these kids
Speaker 1: back in school in August when it's a tottest, when
Speaker 1: our acs are tested the most. That's what we want,
Speaker 1: all these kids in a classroom together, thirty plus strong.
Speaker 1: So uh yeah, I don't know what that's all about,
Speaker 1: but you do what you gotta do.
Speaker 3: So, I mean, by the way, yeah, one, that's ridiculous.
Speaker 3: We have late summer here. We should start the summer
Speaker 3: vacation for the kids in like mid July.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, it's it's ridiculous. And as of course now
Speaker 1: they're going back to school. It's been hot as heck lately.
Speaker 1: It's like, of course, it just times out perfectly. But
Speaker 1: you know, we'll save our rantings about the California education
Speaker 1: of the Bay Area for a while and substation will
Speaker 1: come into moments. But I wanted to ask your reaction
Speaker 1: about the Giants about their deadline moves. I know, they
Speaker 1: keep on losing games, and you know they're descending to
Speaker 1: new lows, but just a reaction to what they were
Speaker 1: able to do with the deadline and maybe also what
Speaker 1: they were not able to do with the deadline.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought, actually it as far as expectations go,
Speaker 3: it was a very productive deadline and a little almost
Speaker 3: surprisingly so, especially after the first trade the day before
Speaker 3: the deadline was Tyler Molly for Andy Molina, a guy
Speaker 3: who essentially, I mean that was the salary dump. And
Speaker 3: this is a guy with an ERA around seven in Molina,
Speaker 3: just a guy, right, So okay, Well, Mollie actually had
Speaker 3: been pitching pretty well leading up to that point. So
Speaker 3: if they can't get anything for him, are they even
Speaker 3: in a trade or they you know, what are they
Speaker 3: going to get for Luisa Rise? And it seems like,
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously you have to deal with prospect rankings
Speaker 3: and all this stuff is is a bit of a
Speaker 3: crap shoot. Even though there's some educated guesses going on,
Speaker 3: it seems like they were They did a lot of
Speaker 3: good stuff in terms of acting some adding some arms
Speaker 3: that could work in the system. I think Marquez is
Speaker 3: the guy that seems like he could be maybe on
Speaker 3: the fast tracks the big leagues and not too long.
Speaker 3: Henry Lalani is a guy who you know, seems to
Speaker 3: have some promise or they got for Elliott Ramos, and
Speaker 3: Ramos is a guy that a lot of people were
Speaker 3: sort of saying that it makes sense to trade him
Speaker 3: because he's a guy who is the right handed hitter
Speaker 3: and there weren't very many of them in the market.
Speaker 3: But you kind of felt like, all right, well he's
Speaker 3: sort of a popular player and he's a guy who
Speaker 3: is under team control. So is that really something they're
Speaker 3: gonna do. And I don't think you can really do
Speaker 3: a full rebuild when you have guys like Chapman and
Speaker 3: the Damas Endeavors in your Oscar and Logan who they
Speaker 3: said they weren't going to trade. But this was definitely
Speaker 3: a resetting of sorts for I think with what the
Speaker 3: teams like to say. Instead of rebuilt, they were really
Speaker 3: active and a lot of people throughout the industry seem
Speaker 3: to think that they did a pretty good job.
Speaker 1: What about the big three though, that you mentioned with
Speaker 1: Devers and Chapman and A Damas says still being part
Speaker 1: of this team, and you know, A Damas is what
Speaker 1: he is. You know, I like aspects of his game.
Speaker 1: Other times I find quite maddening. Chapman if he plays
Speaker 1: to his baseball card. I ostensibly like Devers, I ostensibly
Speaker 1: like if he is that guy again, but he had
Speaker 1: such a you know, the numbers of him. Since he
Speaker 1: was traded to the Giants, the team has not had
Speaker 1: a positive, you know record with him on the team.
Speaker 2: So I don't know. I mean, you still have those
Speaker 2: three guys, you do, but how.
Speaker 3: Are you going to get rid of them?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Well, what team? I mean, Chapman's probably going to be
Speaker 3: out for the season. Devers's contract is really really long
Speaker 3: and obviously has all that money involved as well, Damas
Speaker 3: not really having a very good season dealing with the
Speaker 3: back problems. Defense hasn't been that great. So what team
Speaker 3: is gonna come over and say, hey, you know what
Speaker 3: this guy who's an albatross on your roster and making
Speaker 3: a ton of money and not playing well or not
Speaker 3: playing at all. Well, let's give you some good prospects
Speaker 3: for this guy who's gonna cost us a ton of money.
Speaker 3: I mean, unless the Giants were gonna pay down well
Speaker 3: over fifty percent if any of those contracts, nothing was
Speaker 3: gonna happen. And even then, I'm not even sure if
Speaker 3: teams were really chomping at the bit to get any
Speaker 3: one of those guys. I mean, maybe a guy like
Speaker 3: Devers if you're gonna pay most of the contract off, sure,
Speaker 3: because of these guys who can hit in the playoffs.
Speaker 3: But yes, that just wasn't realistic. So I think with
Speaker 3: the hand that they were dealt, I mean, obviously it
Speaker 3: was self dealt in some respects, but with the hand
Speaker 3: they were dealt in terms of the guys who actually
Speaker 3: had some market value out there at the deadline, I
Speaker 3: think they did really well. I was actually surprised, pleasantly
Speaker 3: so for the Giants on the trades for Ray Ramos Arise,
Speaker 3: seems like that was a pretty good deal, even though
Speaker 3: you know, a lot of fans rightly so really love
Speaker 3: the way he plays and then also to get you know,
Speaker 3: a little bit of a lottery ticket Marcella Meyer, who
Speaker 3: I think Red Sox fans are kind of ready to
Speaker 3: get rid of because he was always injured and there
Speaker 3: were some questions about him just in general with his
Speaker 3: attitude and stuff. But you know, he's still only twenty
Speaker 3: three years old, and he was the number four prospect
Speaker 3: in the game like a couple of years ago. So
Speaker 3: you know, when you're in a team in the position
Speaker 3: like the Giants, you know, still and dark to the
Speaker 3: board like that is something that you really want to do.
Speaker 3: There's no reason not to at this point because you're
Speaker 3: not gonna be able to take risks otherwise.
Speaker 1: Again, we got Steve Berman, the athletic join us here
Speaker 1: on sports Phone KMBR. I will now take us over
Speaker 1: to the land of the forty nine ers. And I
Speaker 1: don't know if you heard me earlier. I assume you
Speaker 1: weren't just listening to get my entire take before you
Speaker 1: came on, But I was saying, now stay with me,
Speaker 1: because it sounds a little bit crazy that I was
Speaker 1: making a comparison with the forty nine ers to the Giants,
Speaker 1: and that the Giants all throughout the off season. We
Speaker 1: knew that they needed to improve with their pitching and
Speaker 1: their bullpen, and they didn't do it, and we saw
Speaker 1: the results right off the get go being problematic and
Speaker 1: their season was over before it began. If anyone came
Speaker 1: up to me, Steven said, Ted, what are the forty
Speaker 1: nine ers need to do this year to have success?
Speaker 2: I would say, be healthy.
Speaker 1: And they already had twenty guys out of practice today.
Speaker 1: They already have lost Ricky Piersoll, which is an extension
Speaker 1: of an injury from a year ago. They memes about
Speaker 1: the substation are out of control online. I mean, I
Speaker 1: just it's incredible that it took that few days of
Speaker 1: training camp for injuries to be the big story, when
Speaker 1: before you had your head coach in a serious car accident.
Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden, Ricky Pearsall's likely out for
Speaker 1: the year is out for the year, and you're bringing
Speaker 1: back Deebo Samuel who now with injuries to Evans and
Speaker 1: Kirk and Stribbling, he's like your one healthy wide receiver
Speaker 1: and he was only on the team.
Speaker 2: A couple days ago.
Speaker 3: Oh man, it's yeah. I think it's sort of the
Speaker 3: same thing with the Giants in terms of you know,
Speaker 3: the Giants have had just way too much nonfense this season,
Speaker 3: but it's all been kind of off the field stuff,
Speaker 3: or I guess on the field stuff with the with
Speaker 3: the outfielder celebrations. In this case, the Niners Shenanigans are
Speaker 3: just like the amount of injuries and then how they come.
Speaker 3: And so Kyle Shanahan getting that car accident before training
Speaker 3: camp started, not being there when it opens just seemed
Speaker 3: so forty nine ers in just a dark way, you know,
Speaker 3: I remember, you know, during training camp. But you know,
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago, I was in the city
Speaker 3: for a concert and I actually no, it was to
Speaker 3: go to a Giants game. And right about like i'd say,
Speaker 3: half hour after I arrived in downtown, right by Market Street,
Speaker 3: you know, there were sirens. We heard a bunch of them.
Speaker 3: And then I seen it online that Ricky Ricky Pearsall
Speaker 3: has been shot and so and I'm just and at
Speaker 3: that point it was like, is he gonna is he
Speaker 3: gonna die? The Torso, Yeah, it was one of the
Speaker 3: wilder situations, obviously, and thank goodness he came out of it. Okay,
Speaker 3: But you know this might sound awful. I guess it's
Speaker 3: okay now, because Ricky Piersoll had a being all right,
Speaker 3: but that is sort of a very forty nine ers
Speaker 3: kind of thing to happen. It seems like over the
Speaker 3: years they somehow, you know, just I guess you can
Speaker 3: have the exception of a couple seasons, you know, two
Speaker 3: seasons ago twenty four they won six and eleven, and
Speaker 3: they went six and ten and twenty twenty. Those are
Speaker 3: kind of the two years of the Shanahan Arrow where
Speaker 3: the wheels kind of fell off. But otherwise they deal
Speaker 3: with all this weird stuff that happens, whether it's contract negotiations,
Speaker 3: you know, Jimmy Garoppolo throwing on a side feel away
Speaker 3: from everybody else. There's always something, you know, Nick Bosa's
Speaker 3: contract negotiations. There's always something weird during training camp and
Speaker 3: right before the season, and then usually they're able to
Speaker 3: figure it out. I think right now that the only
Speaker 3: way you can look at this optimistically. With yes, twenty
Speaker 3: guys out of the ninety on the on the roster
Speaker 3: who were unable to practice today, A lot of those
Speaker 3: are listed as soreness. So if you want to give
Speaker 3: them the benefit of the doubt, which I'm sure a
Speaker 3: lot of fans health wise are not really willing to
Speaker 3: do so, is that maybe they're being extremely cautious this year.
Speaker 3: And in terms of if you have any sort of reason,
Speaker 3: any little tweak, you know, tightness, you're not practicing just
Speaker 3: because they want to make sure that these things don't
Speaker 3: turn into recurring injuries. Now, on the other hand, you
Speaker 3: can also look at it and if you're a conspiracy
Speaker 3: theorist or just someone who has been watching this for
Speaker 3: years and looking for some reason why the Niners team
Speaker 3: to get injured more often than other teams, and albeit
Speaker 3: at a very violent sport, the substation is gonna keep
Speaker 3: rare in its ugly head. It doesn't matter that John
Speaker 3: Lynch comes and tells everyone, hey, we actually had some
Speaker 3: scientists come in and it's fine. It doesn't actually mean anything.
Speaker 3: It's really as this perception becomes a reality at some
Speaker 3: point here. And so I don't think this means that
Speaker 3: they're gonna move their training camp facility at any point,
Speaker 3: but gosh, until you have a year where they are
Speaker 3: one of the healthiest teams in football, people are gonna
Speaker 3: still bring it up.
Speaker 1: The other thing about it is that it's so prominent
Speaker 1: in every bit of footage or picture that comes out
Speaker 1: of training camp. I mean, it's right there in the backdrop,
Speaker 1: and I mean it just you can't help but wonder.
Speaker 1: And I am not a believer in this in the
Speaker 1: sense that there's nothing backing it up. Like John Lynch said,
Speaker 1: They've had scientists come out and there's so many things
Speaker 1: about it that it doesn't make any sense. But when
Speaker 1: it's there looming over every bit of footage, like you
Speaker 1: just kind of go like, well, I don't I mean,
Speaker 1: what if what else is the answer here? Because it's
Speaker 1: just it's amazing to watch it go down when we
Speaker 1: all know that was the main issue for this team
Speaker 1: was health, and then they're dealing with all these things.
Speaker 1: But I guess, like he alluded to, none of them
Speaker 1: except for the pearce Al are supremely bad. They are
Speaker 1: being careful. They're not saying Nick Bosa Nie soreness. They're
Speaker 1: not saying, you know, other guys have you know, soreness
Speaker 1: specific to one type of thing that's you know, like
Speaker 1: Drake green Law's not sore achilles or something like that.
Speaker 1: It is nebulous phrasing the condition be like, hey, you
Speaker 1: know what, we want to make sure our guys.
Speaker 3: Are okay, Well, maybe the answer here is just to
Speaker 3: embrace the substation and make it the mascot. So I
Speaker 3: know that we all love saradough Sam, but maybe we
Speaker 3: could have the substation guy in a substation costume jumping
Speaker 3: around and saying they're going to shock the other team.
Speaker 3: I guess the Chargers might get upset about that in
Speaker 3: terms of but Paton's frigeman. Maybe, But maybe that's that's
Speaker 3: what it is. Instead of just pretending it doesn't exist
Speaker 3: and hoping that people stop talking about it, just embrace it.
Speaker 3: You know, I have T shirts the mascot. I don't know,
Speaker 3: it just seems like it's one of those things that's
Speaker 3: never going to go away now, although it you know,
Speaker 3: it wasn't really talked about, you know, gosh when the
Speaker 3: when the team was awful and not winning. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: you know, I mean they had you know, injuries here
Speaker 3: and there like any other team. I mean, the substation
Speaker 3: wasn't put in three years ago. So you know, maybe
Speaker 3: it's one of those deals where there's just so much
Speaker 3: scrutiny on this team, mainly because they've been relevant almost
Speaker 3: every season and I've lost to Super Bowl since Shanahan's
Speaker 3: got there. They've been just so close on the doorstep
Speaker 3: that people are just like, all right, we need everything
Speaker 3: to fall in a place we can finally win another one,
Speaker 3: our first one since the ninety four season when they
Speaker 3: won in January of ninety five. Please God give us
Speaker 3: a chance to win the Super Bowl. Oh man, this
Speaker 3: guy's out again and Mike Evans as a quad Oh,
Speaker 3: it's not going to happen to us. So yeah, there's
Speaker 3: a lot of gloom and doom that kind of happens
Speaker 3: with this team despite all the playoff appearances. But it's understandable.
Speaker 3: It's been frustrating.
Speaker 2: I also think a.
Speaker 1: Part of it is that there is a I don't
Speaker 1: know if jealousy is the right term, but I think
Speaker 1: a lot of the rest of the NFL fandom looks
Speaker 1: at the forty nine ers in the sense that they
Speaker 1: were already the team of the decade in the eighties
Speaker 1: and then won a Super Bowl in the nineties. But
Speaker 1: we're relevant throughout the entire decade and even went from
Speaker 1: Steve Young to Jeff Garcia, who kept them relevant essentially
Speaker 1: until the Denny Erickson era, and then you went through
Speaker 1: Mike Nolan.
Speaker 2: But then they came back with Harbaugh.
Speaker 1: They were in three straight NFC Championship games, lost to
Speaker 1: Super Bowl along the way down for a couple of years,
Speaker 1: then come back with Harbaugh, and they've been back in
Speaker 1: it essentially relevant except for those two years you mentioned
Speaker 1: where they were dealing with injuries, and like the forty
Speaker 1: nine Ers for forty years have been a constant presence,
Speaker 1: and you know, they're one of the teams that's won
Speaker 1: the most Super Bowls. Obviously, you know, the Patriots were
Speaker 1: able to surpass the Cowboys and the forty nine Ers,
Speaker 1: and the Steelers are in the conversation as well. But
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like that is part of it,
Speaker 1: that there's almost a large enough area of the NFL
Speaker 1: fan base that doesn't view them like the Cowboys, but
Speaker 1: still doesn't hate the fact that they're having these troubles.
Speaker 3: No, absolutely not, that's for sure. And the Niners have
Speaker 3: built up a lot of good rivalries over the years.
Speaker 3: I mean, the Seahawks one really came to fruition. I mean,
Speaker 3: you and I are old enough to remember when the
Speaker 3: Seahawks are in the AFC West, and now the number
Speaker 3: one rival for the three nine Ers is the Seattle Seahawks,
Speaker 3: but they have rivalries and other divisions too, and also
Speaker 3: they're just they are, Like I think pretty much what
Speaker 3: you're alluding to is they're a top five sort of
Speaker 3: showcase brand in the NFL. Well, and that's why, you
Speaker 3: know the fact that they say we're not going to
Speaker 3: do hard knocks. The NFL says, Okay, well, then we're
Speaker 3: gonna stick you in Australia and Mexico City so in
Speaker 3: the same season. And I was gonna complain about that,
Speaker 3: but that comes with being one of the marquee teams,
Speaker 3: and especially if you're not going to do hard knocks.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think that with the amount of time
Speaker 3: that people talk about this team, because they also not
Speaker 3: just you know, relevancy in terms of playoff appearances, but
Speaker 3: they do have just a lot of like weird news
Speaker 3: stories that happened. Like I was to talk about a
Speaker 3: little bit ago, you know, with you know, the weird
Speaker 3: weirdness of the Garoppolo and then Purty the last pick
Speaker 3: of the draft, the surfing him, the contract negotiations is
Speaker 3: ayuk saying it's been super weird. Now, granted, I think
Speaker 3: most people are not really thinking that the forty nine
Speaker 3: ers have anything that they're faull for here because a
Speaker 3: Yuk has not really done himself any favors. But it's
Speaker 3: also this there's there is a lot of noise. It's
Speaker 3: not Cowboys style noise where ESPN's talking about him on
Speaker 3: every segment, but there is a lot of probably forty
Speaker 3: nine ers fatigue just from over the decades. I think
Speaker 3: older fans, especially younger fans maybe not so much, but
Speaker 3: older fans who've been around since you know, the eighties
Speaker 3: and Joe Montana, they're probably like, Okay, well, it's fine
Speaker 3: for you guys. You had your deal with the devil
Speaker 3: back then, and it's time for you guys to have
Speaker 3: a little bit of bad luck too.
Speaker 2: What are your hopes for the forty nine ers this year?
Speaker 1: Because I feel like they are probably in a similar
Speaker 1: boat where I think they can get through the wild
Speaker 1: card round, but that story probably comes to a close
Speaker 1: in the divisional round because they just don't have what
Speaker 1: the Rams or the Seahawks have specifically, or whoever it's
Speaker 1: going to be like, when I looked at this team
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three, I was like, Yeah, this is
Speaker 1: a team that can really go get it done. And
Speaker 1: even the way they started off that twenty nineteen season
Speaker 1: when the defense was so dominant, their run game was
Speaker 1: so dominant, and I felt differently about it.
Speaker 2: And they were younger. That's part of this narrative as well.
Speaker 1: But as they are constructed right now, it's kind of
Speaker 1: a they're good enough to get to the playoffs and lose,
Speaker 1: and that's not the point.
Speaker 3: Well, that's that's kind of where they're at. I think
Speaker 3: I'm not and I think they don't believe that they
Speaker 3: go to the playoffs and they lose. They I mean,
Speaker 3: that team last year was really not that good. I
Speaker 3: said that the entire year. I was just watching those games. Yeah,
Speaker 3: this isn't that good. This team isn't that good. And
Speaker 3: then they ended up in the playoffs. Anyways, in the
Speaker 3: toughest division of football. They went twelve and five somehow
Speaker 3: and then won a playoff game in Philly, and then
Speaker 3: you're like, oh, okay, then they go to Seattle and
Speaker 3: get their bells wrong. But but that's that team was
Speaker 3: not that great. This team, I think should be a
Speaker 3: bit better, and it seems like they've leaned into all right,
Speaker 3: this is our last chance. With all these skilled position
Speaker 3: guys and Trent Williams who are in their thirties and
Speaker 3: guys who have injury histories. So all right, they signed
Speaker 3: Mike Evans who has some injuries in the past himself
Speaker 3: and is in the thirties. They're like, all right, We're
Speaker 3: just this is the year after this year, there might
Speaker 3: be like last year there was a reset financially, I
Speaker 3: think next year, depending on what happens, there's gonna be
Speaker 3: a major reset with his team. And but you look
Speaker 3: at it also with Drake Greenlaw, Deebo Samuel bringing those
Speaker 3: guys back, So this is really like, all right, we're
Speaker 3: gonna do it. This team will go as far as
Speaker 3: the defense and the running game takes them. As you
Speaker 3: were just saying. When you look back at the defensive
Speaker 3: rankings over the years when they were good, they were
Speaker 3: top ten in most categories. In twenty twenty two, when
Speaker 3: Damiko Ryans was the defensive coordinator, they were number one
Speaker 3: in points and yards allowed per game, which is pretty outstanding.
Speaker 3: And they still haven't really made up for the fact
Speaker 3: that Demiko Ryans left solid came back last year, but
Speaker 3: the defense was the shell of itself. I think one
Speaker 3: thing it'll be interesting to see is how they handled
Speaker 3: this early schedule and if they add because right now
Speaker 3: this team I think is sorely meeting another pass rusher.
Speaker 3: If they don't get another pass rusher, then I think
Speaker 3: it's gonna be pretty difficult. Last year they were a
Speaker 3: joke in terms of sacks that they had. I was
Speaker 3: actually watching a Celebrity Jeopardy ESPN edition recently where they
Speaker 3: showed Miles Garrett on the screen. All you have to
Speaker 3: do is identify Miles Garrett was the answer to the question.
Speaker 3: But how they described it was this player for the
Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns had more sacks than one team, the forty
Speaker 3: nine ers, And I'm like, wow, the forty nine ERDs
Speaker 3: are taking trays from Joe Buck on Celebrity Jeopardy. So
Speaker 3: that's that's really like, that's pretty embarrassing. So if this
Speaker 3: team is pretty good, I think with what you've seen,
Speaker 3: especially with the Deebo signing, I mean they kind of
Speaker 3: had to do it, but still it shows that they're
Speaker 3: not thinking as much about our finances this year, and
Speaker 3: you know, working in young guys, they do want to
Speaker 3: win this year. Maybe there's this chance you get a
Speaker 3: guy like Max Crosby at the trade deadline something like that,
Speaker 3: because it sort of match the aggressiveness of the Rams
Speaker 3: in that division, and the Seahawks are really talented. It's
Speaker 3: gonna be a tough year. But if the run game
Speaker 3: is much better than it was last year, and I
Speaker 3: think that they actually have a better stable running backs
Speaker 3: this season, even though a couple of them already hurt. Okay,
Speaker 3: but the defense.
Speaker 2: Has to be better, So why not go get Joey Bosa?
Speaker 3: Well, I they still might get Joey Bosa. I don't
Speaker 3: think that that's out of question. Now. I don't really
Speaker 3: know if that's the panacea. He's not what he once was,
Speaker 3: and he did he was relatively healthy last season. Can
Speaker 3: you really count on that either? And knowing the bosas,
Speaker 3: Joey Bosa is probably asking for a ton of money
Speaker 3: that they probably don't want to give. So, but I
Speaker 3: you know, as the season draws closer, if Bosa's realizing
Speaker 3: that he might not end up on a team, maybe
Speaker 3: maybe he knows that with his skill set he doesn't
Speaker 3: need a training camp. He can just pop in and
Speaker 3: in October November and you know, rush the passer and
Speaker 3: be fine. I don't know, though, I mean I'm thinking
Speaker 3: more of a guy who's actually active right now on
Speaker 3: a team, is one of the best players in the league.
Speaker 3: Is is someone that you do so, you know, the
Speaker 3: same sort of move that the forty Hires might have
Speaker 3: made in like nineteen ninety four. You know, you get
Speaker 3: a guy who, you know, to match what the Rams
Speaker 3: are doing right now with getting Miles Garrett and then
Speaker 3: probably getting Aaron Donald at some point here shortly.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, in ninety four, they brought in Dion Sanders,
Speaker 1: they brought in Toy Cook, they brought in Ken Norton Junior,
Speaker 1: and they brought in Gary Plummers. So I don't think
Speaker 1: they're gonna be able to do that now that the
Speaker 1: league's a little bit different.
Speaker 2: Now you may have noticed, right.
Speaker 3: A little a little bit. I mean that still all
Speaker 3: the rules are made because what the forty nine ers
Speaker 3: did back then, that's true, But you can get one player.
Speaker 3: I mean, the salary cap is, you know, it does exist.
Speaker 3: It didn't exist back then, but still it's it's still
Speaker 3: kind of kind of a you know, a pseudo salary cap.
Speaker 3: It's not what it was before. I mean, I do
Speaker 3: think that there's room to handle such things. You can
Speaker 3: renegotiate with guys, but yeah, you're not going to add
Speaker 3: like six guys all at once.
Speaker 2: It was nice when they were able to, though.
Speaker 1: The forty nine ers back then had a like the
Speaker 1: eighties and nineties forty nine ers, and you look at
Speaker 1: those teams when they were in that contending window, they
Speaker 1: literally had a backup team that could have started at
Speaker 1: most positions around the NFL. That's why when Joe Montana
Speaker 1: went down, Steve Young was ready to ignite one of
Speaker 1: the great quarterback controversies in the history of the NFL.
Speaker 1: Things like that, it was just absolutely ridiculous, and you had,
Speaker 1: you know, even in the nineties, Tarrell Owens suddenly turned
Speaker 1: into and this was after the cap, but yeah, Jerry Rice.
Speaker 1: But then you had Tarall Owens breaking Jerry's records on
Speaker 1: game days for most catches receptions in a game.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I remember we did that at Candlestick Park, and it
Speaker 1: was like, what's going on at the forty nine ers
Speaker 1: just go from one Hall of Fame quarterback to another,
Speaker 1: and then one Hall of Fame wide receiver to do another,
Speaker 1: Like it doesn't usually work like that for teams. But again,
Speaker 1: this is back to that point of them, like you
Speaker 1: alluded to that deal with the devil they made that
Speaker 1: has kept them essentially.
Speaker 2: In contention for forty years.
Speaker 1: What about brock Perdy, You know, I think that one
Speaker 1: of the stories that's been overlooked is that everyone's saying
Speaker 1: he's looked really good at camp, but that's not what
Speaker 1: everyone's talking about. They're talking about the next man up
Speaker 1: on the injury list.
Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing about Brock perty that in my
Speaker 3: issue with Rock is I do think that he's one
Speaker 3: of the better quarterbacks, and only I think that you
Speaker 3: just look at the statistics and that's undeniable. Guy gets
Speaker 3: dinged up a little bit, and he's had multiple arm injuries,
Speaker 3: so it seems like the arm injuries have not been
Speaker 3: sort of permanent where and I don't think he's really
Speaker 3: a guy who his arm strength was his number one
Speaker 3: characteristic anyways. But you know, he's a guy who plays
Speaker 3: really well in Shanahan's system and also has some sort
Speaker 3: of daring do to make some crazy plays from time
Speaker 3: to time. He's pretty fearless, and I think that really
Speaker 3: does help sometimes the guys in this offense. Every once
Speaker 3: in a while, you have to take a chance and
Speaker 3: he does that, but you know, can can he stay
Speaker 3: healthy for an entire season? I mean last year he
Speaker 3: was hurt in Week one. Luckily for them, mac Jones
Speaker 3: was able to take the ball and actually played pretty
Speaker 3: darn well and keep him and that's the reason why,
Speaker 3: that's probably the main reason why with a pretty like
Speaker 3: whole ridden team, they were able to get to the
Speaker 3: playoffs and do what they did. Mac Jones apparently during
Speaker 3: training camp, has not looked quite as good this year.
Speaker 3: I'm not really sure how much that matters, but I
Speaker 3: think brock perty if you get to have a full
Speaker 3: healthy season and the run game really the offensive line
Speaker 3: can can withstand uh you know, whatever is going on
Speaker 3: at the left guard position, then I think that brockadab
Speaker 3: maybe his best year. I mean, who knows if. Now
Speaker 3: it's always the if, you know, if Mike Evans can play,
Speaker 3: you know, fourteen to fifteen games, if Debo you know,
Speaker 3: who's supposed to supposedly looks fit, and Trim can have
Speaker 3: at least like a Deebo light season, and Shawn Stribling
Speaker 3: is probably the main x factor of this season offensively.
Speaker 3: If he's as good as everyone's saying, then that's going
Speaker 3: to be great news for him. You know.
Speaker 1: We just have to see it on the field, mister Burman,
Speaker 1: I will let you go, but I appreciate your time
Speaker 1: as always, and we'll do it again soon.
Speaker 3: All right man, all right, thanks Ed.