WEBVTT - The Last Ditch Bar...Disingenuous & Racist! 0:00:05.880 --> 0:00:09.720 Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the 0:00:09.770 --> 0:00:14.030 George Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 0:00:14.190 --> 0:00:15.570 Armstrong and Getty. 0:00:15.710 --> 0:00:22.610 And now, here's Armstrong and Getty. 0:00:29.610 --> 0:00:30.350 So some of the. 0:00:30.290 --> 0:00:34.900 Reason that this story about the last-ditch bar happened Is 0:00:34.940 --> 0:00:39.760 getting so much attention is mockery. Some of it is, 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:44.290 I think, those of us who really don't understand the 0:00:44.330 --> 0:00:48.330 woke mindset, the woke mind virus, the mental illness that 0:00:48.390 --> 0:00:51.949 is wokeism, getting a glimpse of it and trying to 0:00:52.090 --> 0:00:53.150 understand it. 0:00:54.570 --> 0:00:58.470 Right. Well, and then there's another layer, if you're familiar 0:00:58.510 --> 0:01:02.230 with history, 20th century history in particular, and Marxism and 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:06.310 Maoist China and, well, the early days of the Soviet 0:01:06.410 --> 0:01:09.390 Union especially were super ideological. You'd end up with an 0:01:09.450 --> 0:01:12.130 ice pick in your eye if you ran afoul of 0:01:12.150 --> 0:01:16.190 the party line. But the Maoist China example is so 0:01:16.390 --> 0:01:17.350 good of. 0:01:17.250 --> 0:01:23.800 How people would be forced to memorize doctrine, disagree bitterly 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:27.400 over it, and despise people who. 0:01:27.300 --> 0:01:31.009 Didn't adopt it, became an enemy of the people. And 0:01:31.069 --> 0:01:34.530 the fact that generation after generation after generation, and this 0:01:34.590 --> 0:01:40.090 is the point, are attracted to that. Certain numbers of 0:01:40.170 --> 0:01:43.910 people like that. They want that. And it makes them 0:01:44.030 --> 0:01:47.710 feel important. And they become so dedicated to it. They 0:01:47.730 --> 0:01:51.110 become insane. I mean, I'm not going to give too 0:01:51.130 --> 0:01:54.300 much away, but by the standards of virtually anybody, the 0:01:54.330 --> 0:01:57.200 people you're going to hear are mentally disturbed. 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:02.110 So the nut graph on this story. which is interesting 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:03.490 when you're talking about a lesbian bar. 0:02:03.630 --> 0:02:10.190 I'd prefer a pie graph, indeed. Now, that graph is. 0:02:12.389 --> 0:02:16.120 A trio of lesbians decided to open up a mask 0:02:16.180 --> 0:02:18.980 mandatory bar because they thought that was something that was 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:21.739 needed there in Lexington, Massachusetts. 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:25.120 So a bar where you go and hobnob and drink 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:29.850 alcoholic beverages or perhaps mocktails, but masks are mandated. 0:02:30.070 --> 0:02:32.630 Yeah, they do have the signs all over the place 0:02:32.669 --> 0:02:36.950 that say drop, sip, raise. So that was the, because 0:02:36.970 --> 0:02:38.650 if you're wondering how you drink with a mask on, 0:02:38.669 --> 0:02:39.810 so you have to wear your mask all the time. 0:02:40.060 --> 0:02:41.320 It has to be the N95 or better. 0:02:42.820 --> 0:02:44.700 So they are like none of the just kind of 0:02:44.740 --> 0:02:47.900 flimsy masks that we all pretended to wear to be 0:02:47.940 --> 0:02:49.040 able to go into the grocery store. 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:52.200 So we're already in crazy, Phil. And this bar opened 0:02:52.260 --> 0:02:52.880 last year. 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:53.180 Right. 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:56.100 So it's not like it was open in 2020 when 0:02:56.139 --> 0:02:58.320 COVID hit and they just hung on to the policy 0:02:58.380 --> 0:03:00.530 like some places have. It is. 0:03:01.470 --> 0:03:02.490 They opened the bar in 2025. 0:03:02.470 --> 0:03:07.540 And... As you'll find out, I think from some of 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:11.859 these clips, they're really struggling. Not many people, their bands 0:03:11.900 --> 0:03:14.800 won't perform there. People don't go there to drink. And 0:03:14.820 --> 0:03:16.590 so they aren't making any money. So they were about 0:03:16.620 --> 0:03:18.510 to go under. They couldn't pay their rent. So they 0:03:18.530 --> 0:03:21.270 thought maybe dropping the mask mandate would be a good idea. 0:03:21.570 --> 0:03:24.470 But they knew the few patrons that do go love 0:03:24.510 --> 0:03:27.169 the mask mandate. So they tried dropping it just on 0:03:27.250 --> 0:03:29.709 Saturday nights. You can still wear a mask if you want, 0:03:29.910 --> 0:03:30.540 but it's just not going. 0:03:30.460 --> 0:03:31.400 To be mandated. 0:03:31.860 --> 0:03:34.970 And then when the word got out that they changed 0:03:34.990 --> 0:03:38.870 the policy, a lot of people went nuts about Most 0:03:38.910 --> 0:03:41.650 of these people aren't patrons of the bar, which is interesting. 0:03:41.910 --> 0:03:44.210 They've either never been there or they don't live in 0:03:44.250 --> 0:03:44.850 that town. 0:03:44.890 --> 0:03:48.010 There are places around the country who support the idea 0:03:48.450 --> 0:03:52.210 of a lesbian mask mandatory bar jumping on the Zoom 0:03:52.250 --> 0:03:56.270 call that included the owner, one of the owners, and 0:03:56.290 --> 0:03:58.960 a mediator. And so you had some people that were, 0:03:58.970 --> 0:04:03.140 I think, in the bar, like 10 people, all in masks, 0:04:03.220 --> 0:04:05.380 of course. And then some of the people on the 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:10.810 Zoom call are also in masks. alone in their home 0:04:10.890 --> 0:04:14.250 on their Zoom call to discuss this whole thing. And 0:04:14.310 --> 0:04:17.880 let's hear, this is the mediator, Sophia, reading some of 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:19.859 the comments from the Zoom chat. 0:04:20.540 --> 0:04:23.080 Question for the mediator who is a therapist, who are 0:04:23.100 --> 0:04:24.440 mandated reporters and workers. 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:26.240 Oh, okay, sorry. I gotta set this up a little bit. 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:32.070 So the actual, one of the mediators jumped in and said, 0:04:32.170 --> 0:04:35.690 I'm a licensed therapist. And several people had very negative 0:04:35.710 --> 0:04:37.010 reactions to that. Oh, no. 0:04:37.610 --> 0:04:38.099 So here we go. 0:04:38.750 --> 0:04:41.270 Question for the mediator who is a therapist, who are 0:04:41.290 --> 0:04:44.089 mandated reporters and work for the state? Are they informed 0:04:44.170 --> 0:04:47.770 on peer support and the intersections of race and disability justice? 0:04:47.850 --> 0:04:51.250 What is their race? I can't see them. Also given 0:04:51.290 --> 0:04:54.890 professional credentials are being, someone else said, also given professional 0:04:54.910 --> 0:04:57.450 credentials are being dropped, are we to understand we now 0:04:57.490 --> 0:05:01.070 have a professional relationship with this licensed therapist? Do we 0:05:01.130 --> 0:05:05.390 have confidentiality? Are we subject to mandated reporting or hospitalizations 0:05:05.470 --> 0:05:08.110 based on the content of our communication? Can we get 0:05:08.150 --> 0:05:11.760 the NPI of the therapist? It's confusing and concerning. Profession 0:05:11.779 --> 0:05:15.560 and license was invoked in this context. The original person 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:19.500 said amplifying what Moss is saying. Therapists are mandated reporters 0:05:19.540 --> 0:05:22.110 who answer to the state. This changes the dynamic of 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:22.610 the discussion. 0:05:23.529 --> 0:05:25.890 So right off the bat, I mean, this was at 0:05:26.029 --> 0:05:29.750 the very beginning. I've been chosen to moderate this debate. 0:05:29.790 --> 0:05:33.050 I'm a licensed therapist who specializes in some sort of 0:05:33.070 --> 0:05:35.760 like group dynamics or something. So she thought, you know, 0:05:35.820 --> 0:05:38.690 I can help. deal we'll be a moderator for a 0:05:38.730 --> 0:05:44.460 group discussion right and immediately wait a second oh these 0:05:44.540 --> 0:05:51.140 people are a long day they are oh the indignation 0:05:52.680 --> 0:05:57.469 Is their constant set point. I was trying to wrap 0:05:57.510 --> 0:05:59.290 my head around this yesterday as I was listening to 0:05:59.330 --> 0:06:01.130 all this stuff. And we've been dealing with this for 0:06:01.150 --> 0:06:03.890 years now. And some of you business owners have dealt 0:06:03.930 --> 0:06:05.980 with it, employees. That's why you don't want to hire 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:08.680 a college graduate who believes this crap. Is they come 0:06:08.740 --> 0:06:11.219 and talk to you in this way. And it's some 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:12.360 sort of weird. 0:06:13.940 --> 0:06:17.850 I found a thing to complain about or I'm a 0:06:17.940 --> 0:06:18.730 victim of some. 0:06:18.790 --> 0:06:21.050 I'm about to be oppressed. I don't even know what's 0:06:21.089 --> 0:06:24.070 going on here. It's a combination of, if you are oppressed, 0:06:24.089 --> 0:06:27.990 you're at the pinnacle and indignation is the, they're, they're 0:06:28.089 --> 0:06:29.289 never ending mood. 0:06:31.100 --> 0:06:33.140 So I don't remember what this person says. It's just 0:06:33.180 --> 0:06:36.219 listed as black man here, but let's hear him join in. 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:38.900 I am going to start my statement now. 0:06:39.060 --> 0:06:39.440 Hello. 0:06:39.460 --> 0:06:41.560 My name is so new. Our, my pronouns are he, him. 0:06:41.660 --> 0:06:46.050 I'm a multi-disciplinary artist. and a former collaborator, patron, and 0:06:46.089 --> 0:06:48.869 performer of Last Ditch Bar. I came to this meeting 0:06:48.910 --> 0:06:52.260 to express solidarity to those who are against the violation 0:06:52.339 --> 0:06:55.220 of Last Ditch's former mission to keep people safe and 0:06:55.260 --> 0:06:59.620 the mass-required policy on Saturdays. As a black person with 0:06:59.700 --> 0:07:02.540 other marginalized identities, I no longer feel safe in this 0:07:02.700 --> 0:07:08.390 venue anymore. Not around the owner, Jackie, that purposefully spread 0:07:08.410 --> 0:07:13.710 misinformation and attempts to devalue my work. Liking multiple comments, 0:07:14.130 --> 0:07:18.990 especially from one racist person who has never come to 0:07:19.030 --> 0:07:23.920 Last Ditch. likening my disability justice at work to darvo 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:26.420 and if anyone is aware of darvo that is um 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:29.520 something that it is a form of manipulation used by 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:32.250 sex offenders rapists and pedophiles. 0:07:31.870 --> 0:07:35.250 So this is something i learned yesterday darvo i should 0:07:35.290 --> 0:07:38.890 have written it down But it's an acronym for, can 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:41.010 somebody Google DARVO real quick? They could come up with it. 0:07:41.010 --> 0:07:45.640 But it's when you do a reverse, like you're complaining 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:49.680 about something, so I then accuse you of it. Marks 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:52.800 just do it routinely. Yes, it's that. It's that thing. 0:07:52.820 --> 0:07:57.400 Did I amplify reverse violate or violence? I can't remember. 0:07:57.420 --> 0:07:58.480 It's something like that. 0:08:00.850 --> 0:08:04.880 This guy who's a black gay guy who has other 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:06.960 marginalizing characteristics. 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:07.990 I don't know what those are. 0:08:10.670 --> 0:08:11.170 Wow. 0:08:11.630 --> 0:08:15.540 And the mastery of jargon. is really, really important to 0:08:15.580 --> 0:08:17.600 being at the top of the heap, which means you're 0:08:17.620 --> 0:08:19.110 at the bottom of the most victimhood. 0:08:19.370 --> 0:08:22.530 James Lindsay talks about that a lot. It's to immediately 0:08:22.590 --> 0:08:24.990 get you off your game, because if you're like a 0:08:25.070 --> 0:08:27.650 regular decent person, as soon as somebody hits you with 0:08:27.710 --> 0:08:28.930 some jargon you don't know. 0:08:29.410 --> 0:08:30.870 You feel a little uncomfortable or. 0:08:31.490 --> 0:08:35.410 A little beneath them. Like, they already have kind of 0:08:35.450 --> 0:08:39.559 an upper hand on you that they understand this language, 0:08:39.580 --> 0:08:40.240 and you don't. 0:08:40.580 --> 0:08:44.000 Deny, attack, and reverse victim and offender. Yes. 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:44.520 Yes. 0:08:44.580 --> 0:08:47.290 Yes, that's what that is all about. I'm the victim here. 0:08:48.510 --> 0:08:49.830 Let's let him go on a little longer. 0:08:50.710 --> 0:08:51.250 I have. 0:08:53.380 --> 0:08:55.560 Talked to and agreed with multiple people that have worked 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:58.719 with Last Stitch personally, and there is a pattern of 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:04.090 conflict avoidance, lying, and poor management skills and overall nastiness 0:09:04.110 --> 0:09:08.570 that happens behind the scenes that do not align with 0:09:08.870 --> 0:09:15.560 COVID-cautious principles, anti-racism, or revolution. The bad faith responses towards regulars, volunteers, 0:09:15.620 --> 0:09:18.440 and people who pour into this place is horrid. The 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:24.110 private messages that were said about mass patrons calling us 0:09:24.230 --> 0:09:28.590 rude is not is. 0:09:28.550 --> 0:09:31.550 Horrid once you get horrid the choice to uplift. 0:09:31.250 --> 0:09:35.620 And center rhetoric that spreads information and downplays the harm 0:09:37.059 --> 0:09:39.240 is horrid you know. 0:09:39.300 --> 0:09:41.540 If you're playing drinking game or you had to take 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:44.020 a sip every time they cite some sort of marxist 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:46.920 jargon you'd you'd pass out you might die. 0:09:46.540 --> 0:09:49.569 But they don't do you think they know they're citing 0:09:49.630 --> 0:09:51.890 marxist jargon I think they are. 0:09:51.850 --> 0:09:54.380 The useful idiots. Did they just pick it up through 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:56.070 being in these around these. 0:09:55.990 --> 0:09:59.599 People uh i think it's more serious than that this 0:09:59.700 --> 0:10:01.620 one's short do 35 and then i want to actually 0:10:01.660 --> 0:10:05.780 hear from the poor owner who's who i'm sure really 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:09.500 really feels for these people she opened the bar but 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:11.400 they're not going to make it anyway before we hear 0:10:11.420 --> 0:10:12.920 from the owner one more clip. 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:16.480 Would you like to have a conversation with jackie off 0:10:16.559 --> 0:10:17.800 chat or is that. 0:10:22.070 --> 0:10:25.170 I believe that if you publicly liken a Black advocate 0:10:25.309 --> 0:10:30.880 and a disability advocate to rapists and sex offenders, I 0:10:30.900 --> 0:10:33.820 would like a public discussion with Jackie, not a private. 0:10:34.020 --> 0:10:35.720 Okay. 0:10:37.220 --> 0:10:40.270 So we're going to move on somewhere, but thank you. 0:10:41.380 --> 0:10:42.410 We will note that. 0:10:42.470 --> 0:10:45.250 So that guy jumps on the chat, and if you've 0:10:45.290 --> 0:10:47.689 ever been in any sort of Zoom chat meeting where 0:10:47.710 --> 0:10:52.050 you're trying to have a group discussion, some nut job 0:10:52.070 --> 0:10:55.510 always hijacks the thing early, and you want to give 0:10:55.530 --> 0:10:57.429 them their time and not boot them off, but they 0:10:57.450 --> 0:11:00.360 just eat up the momentum and the energy of the 0:11:00.429 --> 0:11:01.540 whole damn thing. 0:11:01.580 --> 0:11:04.600 Something completely irrelevant, a personal gripe. And I took from 0:11:04.620 --> 0:11:08.540 the context, this guy... It's a multidisciplinary artist. He was 0:11:08.580 --> 0:11:13.280 probably like he offered his services to do interpretive dance 0:11:13.740 --> 0:11:18.500 and native chanting there at the masked lesbian bar. And 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:21.100 he sucked and he annoyed people. So they told me 0:11:21.220 --> 0:11:24.220 he wasn't going to get that gig anymore. And so 0:11:24.260 --> 0:11:27.420 now he's on this jihad against poor Jackie. Well, let's 0:11:27.460 --> 0:11:30.820 hear from Jackie, the owner. 36. 0:11:30.820 --> 0:11:34.219 We took out a big nasty loan and borrowed a 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:48.220 little bit of money from a generous family member and. 0:11:43.110 --> 0:11:46.470 Mostly took out a 50K loan to do this. 0:11:47.050 --> 0:11:49.510 It was not my passion project. 0:11:49.670 --> 0:11:51.150 It was Sages and Asos. 0:11:53.150 --> 0:11:57.689 And I. 0:11:58.900 --> 0:12:01.300 never really intended on doing most of these roles. 0:12:02.540 --> 0:12:03.380 And I don't. 0:12:05.150 --> 0:12:06.370 Think I'm doing a very good job. 0:12:06.470 --> 0:12:09.390 And I've been saying that for a very long time, 0:12:10.030 --> 0:12:11.570 that I never really wanted to do this. 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:19.300 And my main goal was to support Sage and Asa. 0:12:22.890 --> 0:12:26.490 I mostly just wanted to be the janitor. That was 0:12:26.630 --> 0:12:28.670 what I was supposed to be doing, was being the janitor. 0:12:29.630 --> 0:12:32.650 So that's... And that dream has died. That's the only 0:12:32.770 --> 0:12:34.449 owner that showed up for the Zoom call. There are 0:12:34.510 --> 0:12:35.010 two others. 0:12:35.130 --> 0:12:36.810 She mentioned the names there. They have weird names. 0:12:37.470 --> 0:12:39.880 That they got in together on this project where they 0:12:40.860 --> 0:12:44.640 borrowed $ 50, 000 and then some generous family member gave them 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:49.489 enough money to buy the bar. The masked... only lesbian bar, 0:12:49.550 --> 0:12:52.270 and it's not working. So she didn't want to be 0:12:52.330 --> 0:12:54.910 in the role of running the thing or being in 0:12:54.980 --> 0:12:55.430 charge of it. 0:12:55.500 --> 0:12:57.040 I just wanted to be a janitor. 0:12:57.740 --> 0:13:01.559 Her lifelong dream of being a janitor got derailed by 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:04.000 having to be in this management position at this bar, 0:13:04.020 --> 0:13:05.609 and now she feels like she's being attacked. 0:13:06.550 --> 0:13:14.140 By Mr. Black, multi-sectional, cross-dimensional victim guy. Right. 0:13:14.179 --> 0:13:17.600 We got to hear more from Jackie, Sage, and Asa. 0:13:17.620 --> 0:13:19.800 Those are the three owners coming up in just a 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:20.500 little bit. 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:22.490 Stay with us, won't you? A word from our friends 0:13:22.570 --> 0:13:27.250 at SimpliSafe Security. 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And such a great illustration of what we're 0:15:12.060 --> 0:15:12.520 up against. 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:15.840 And I can just picture these three, I'm sure, very 0:15:15.940 --> 0:15:19.160 nice lesbian women who decided we should open a bar 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:22.420 that's mask mandated so we can serve the community of 0:15:22.460 --> 0:15:24.080 lesbians that want to have masks. 0:15:24.420 --> 0:15:28.060 It's a little wacky. They opened it last year, but OK. 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:28.880 In 2025. 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:31.210 Here's the owner on the Zoom call where they're trying 0:15:31.230 --> 0:15:35.390 to save the bar because of the backlash to dropping 0:15:35.410 --> 0:15:37.970 the mask mandate one night a week. Here's Jackie, the owner, 0:15:37.990 --> 0:15:39.830 going on with her story of starting the whole bar 0:15:39.850 --> 0:15:41.890 and all she wanted to be was a custodian, et cetera, 0:15:41.910 --> 0:15:42.250 et cetera. 0:15:42.830 --> 0:15:47.790 And then within a few months, Sage had to leave essentially. 0:15:47.390 --> 0:15:51.660 From going on medical leave from. 0:15:51.530 --> 0:15:56.720 A job and us having conflict around the norms and 0:15:56.780 --> 0:15:58.980 schedules and roles. 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:02.620 And this has been. 0:16:02.500 --> 0:16:05.500 Sort of the same conflict that we're having right now. 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:07.940 It sort of never got resolved. 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:09.560 And. 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:15.380 Right after that, I, we all lived in a house together. Um, 0:16:15.380 --> 0:16:19.690 I moved into my truck and I've been working for 0:16:19.750 --> 0:16:22.490 jobs and paying all of the bills here with my 0:16:22.550 --> 0:16:27.870 wage labor where I make $ 17, 1650 at the Y 0:16:28.910 --> 0:16:33.980 and lived in my truck for over six months. And 0:16:35.500 --> 0:16:39.480 I have put probably like seven K or eight. 0:16:38.940 --> 0:16:45.360 K of just wages. into Last Ditch and same with Asa. 0:16:45.500 --> 0:16:47.340 Asa is currently living in a shed. 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:48.940 Asa's living in a shed. 0:16:48.980 --> 0:16:52.590 In somebody's backyard and planning to move into a van. 0:16:54.630 --> 0:17:02.870 And Asa maybe. 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:08.899 Eight months in. Last winter, had to start taking steps back. 0:17:09.300 --> 0:17:10.380 A question for you. 0:17:10.460 --> 0:17:13.040 Is a move from a shed to a van a 0:17:14.220 --> 0:17:16.550 move up, or is that kind of down? 0:17:17.510 --> 0:17:19.770 Or is it a lateral move? A lateral move, yeah. 0:17:20.230 --> 0:17:23.030 You know, pluses and minuses. Hey, does anybody want to 0:17:23.070 --> 0:17:26.130 talk about the football game last night? This bar sucks. 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:31.550 So that is Sage, Asa, and whoever the other person is, 0:17:31.609 --> 0:17:34.410 the owners of the bar. And we'll have to play 0:17:34.430 --> 0:17:35.929 the clip after the break just because I want to 0:17:35.970 --> 0:17:37.210 comment on this a little bit. 0:17:37.330 --> 0:17:39.700 It's such a sad story. I feel bad for her. 0:17:39.710 --> 0:17:41.790 I mean, if she was my sister or daughter or whatever. 0:17:42.170 --> 0:17:44.440 But you had a bad idea. Lots of people open 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:46.820 up bars and restaurants that don't work out. You know 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:48.380 what we should have? We should have a theme that's, 0:17:48.420 --> 0:17:49.979 you know, Mexican, Irish or whatever. 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:50.200 Sure. 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:52.199 And people don't dig it, and you have to close. 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:56.200 Your idea of a mask-mandated lesbian bar did not work. 0:17:56.480 --> 0:18:00.189 And she's uncomfortable just saying out loud, look, we're all broke. 0:18:00.490 --> 0:18:04.270 This bar doesn't work. We're going to have to close. Right, right. 0:18:04.369 --> 0:18:07.590 And we're about to hear, in the face of that, 0:18:08.030 --> 0:18:10.350 the poor gal, she lost the shed. 0:18:10.390 --> 0:18:11.450 She had to move into a vehicle. 0:18:12.550 --> 0:18:16.780 The ideological rigidity... Of these people in. 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:18.959 The face of a story even like that. I live 0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:19.940 in a freaking vehicle. 0:18:20.020 --> 0:18:20.320 Oh, yeah. 0:18:20.340 --> 0:18:23.840 The first next comment on the Zoom chat attacks poor 0:18:23.920 --> 0:18:27.050 Jackie for crying. So we'll get to that coming up. 0:18:27.070 --> 0:18:27.669 Stay here. 0:18:31.190 --> 0:18:44.560 Armstrong and Getty. The Armstrong and Getty Show. 0:18:48.140 --> 0:18:51.000 So the audio got out somehow from the Zoom call 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:53.700 they had at the Last Ditch Bar there in Massachusetts 0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:56.290 that is having all the trouble because the lesbian bar 0:18:56.350 --> 0:18:59.669 dropped their mask mandate one night a week and the 0:19:00.050 --> 0:19:03.409 patrons revolted. It's been a giant national story if you 0:19:03.430 --> 0:19:06.209 haven't been following it. And if you've been following us 0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:09.560 so far today, can't reset everything from the Zoom call 0:19:09.580 --> 0:19:12.199 we played, though we just most recently heard from one 0:19:12.220 --> 0:19:16.330 of the three owners of the bar, in tears explaining 0:19:16.369 --> 0:19:19.570 how she's working four jobs, she had to move from 0:19:19.630 --> 0:19:20.850 a shed to her van? 0:19:22.630 --> 0:19:26.150 Lost, yes, had to vacate the shed and move into 0:19:26.190 --> 0:19:28.350 a van. We couldn't decide if that's an upward, downward, 0:19:28.390 --> 0:19:30.690 or lateral movement. We did get this text. I didn't 0:19:30.710 --> 0:19:35.119 know Subaru made vans. Wow. Are you looking at the 0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:37.580 picture of the owners? Yeah, I just saw the picture 0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:40.379 of the owners. Two of them lesbians got beards on them. 0:19:40.380 --> 0:19:43.480 What's going on with that, huh? What kind of answer 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:43.960 is that? 0:19:43.960 --> 0:19:46.510 Two of them lesbians got beards on them. 0:19:46.510 --> 0:19:47.130 That's right. 0:19:47.210 --> 0:19:49.100 All the ones got a mustache and kind of a 0:19:49.130 --> 0:19:51.820 scraggly attempt at a goatee, but that other one there 0:19:51.880 --> 0:19:54.280 on the right there with the big spectacles, that there's 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:54.900 got a beard. 0:19:56.640 --> 0:19:57.620 I don't know the other two owners. 0:19:57.640 --> 0:19:59.500 We've heard from Jackie, one of the owners, who sounds 0:19:59.540 --> 0:20:01.500 like a really nice person who is just trying to 0:20:01.540 --> 0:20:04.800 do a nice thing for her community. She is incredibly 0:20:04.859 --> 0:20:06.800 naive and she's not a good business person, which isn't 0:20:06.820 --> 0:20:10.160 a crime. No, certainly not. Lots of people open bars 0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:12.149 and restaurants that don't work. In fact, what is it 0:20:12.190 --> 0:20:14.369 like 60 percent closed in the first year or something 0:20:14.410 --> 0:20:17.970 like that? Now, if you open up a mask mandatory 0:20:18.050 --> 0:20:22.780 lesbian bar. Although I do think The Last Ditch is 0:20:22.820 --> 0:20:24.260 a great name for the sort of bar I would 0:20:24.280 --> 0:20:26.379 have sat in all afternoon and been perfectly happy. 0:20:26.440 --> 0:20:28.480 It's a little niche-y. That's what I would have said. 0:20:28.540 --> 0:20:31.440 Can we broaden our customer base, maybe, a little bit? 0:20:32.100 --> 0:20:34.699 A lot of people laughing endlessly at this story and 0:20:34.740 --> 0:20:40.439 really enjoying it. But, so, again, we just heard from Jackie, 0:20:40.460 --> 0:20:42.410 the owner, and she was tearful in telling the story. 0:20:42.770 --> 0:20:44.810 The long and short of this, and they kind of 0:20:44.890 --> 0:20:49.179 buried it in the original Boston Globe story, which was.... 0:20:50.880 --> 0:20:51.660 We read from that. 0:20:51.540 --> 0:20:53.800 Earlier in the week. It was that thing that we 0:20:53.840 --> 0:20:55.780 like that local news does. They did it in the 0:20:55.820 --> 0:20:59.460 newspaper where they try to pretend they're being serious about 0:20:59.480 --> 0:21:02.200 a news story that's important to you when they know 0:21:02.220 --> 0:21:06.180 that it's just pure clickbait mockery. 0:21:07.460 --> 0:21:09.040 You know, it's like. 0:21:08.880 --> 0:21:11.760 When they interview the guy with the, they're raping everyone 0:21:11.820 --> 0:21:13.600 out here. And then they put him on and his 0:21:13.660 --> 0:21:16.260 sister was raped. And they're looking, they've yet to find 0:21:16.300 --> 0:21:19.040 the assailant. They know they got something good here. Because 0:21:19.060 --> 0:21:21.160 that Boston Globe story ended with one of the owners 0:21:21.200 --> 0:21:23.910