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Speaker 1: What's going on? Everybody?

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Speaker 2: Greg Silver, Larry Krueger, and Jacob delance with you on

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Speaker 2: this Thursday. We are into April. We are into the

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Speaker 2: flow of baseball season. Giants taken on the Mets for

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Speaker 2: four games. As they come back home to Oracle Park,

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Speaker 2: forty nine er has got to start thinking about the draft.

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Speaker 2: After the NFL Owners meetings just went down with some

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Speaker 2: rules committee announcements and changes. The Sharks are still hanging

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Speaker 2: in the race to get a wildcard spot. What a

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Speaker 2: story that would be if they can get into the

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Speaker 2: postseason after six years of a lot of suffering, losing

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Speaker 2: and getting some high draft picks. And then the Warriors

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Speaker 2: team headed for that number ten seed. But Steph Curry

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Speaker 2: aims to return on Sunday, and that is always something

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Speaker 2: worth watching, at least for number thirty. By the way,

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Speaker 2: Ryan Fowler put out there that the Eagles, Commanders, Falcons

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Speaker 2: and forty nine ers have shown extensive interest in Houston

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Speaker 2: kicker Ethan Sanchez and Matt Barrow said, try breathing into

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Speaker 2: a paper bag, forty nine Ers fans. It is an

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Speaker 2: interesting headline, right, Like, I'm not gonna overreact to the fact.

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Speaker 1: That wait a minute, the forty nine ers want to

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Speaker 1: draft a kicker.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they did sign Eddie Pinero to an extension

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Speaker 2: this offseason of four for eighteen. So more than anything,

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Speaker 2: Money's gonna talk, and signing Pinero was the obvious move.

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Speaker 2: I don't imagine he's not gonna be your kicker come

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Speaker 2: next season.

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Speaker 3: The great Ryan Fowler is a regular on Niners Nightly.

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Speaker 3: He's a good friend of mine. Really like his work.

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Speaker 3: He does a great job. So yeah, that is interesting.

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Speaker 3: You know, let's not forget that it took the Niners

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Speaker 3: two kickers to get through last year, right, So sometimes

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Speaker 3: it's always nice to be able to develop your own especially,

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Speaker 3: you know, it's always nice to have somebody that you know,

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Speaker 3: under the radar, undrafted free agent practice squad kicker that

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Speaker 3: you really believe in, that's sitting right there just in

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Speaker 3: case something happens in one of the games to you know,

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Speaker 3: Eddie Denaro Pinero.

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Speaker 4: So no, I this is this is John Lynch's job. Man.

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Speaker 3: You gotta you got to make sure your roster is stocked,

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Speaker 3: and you got to plan for injuries because they are coming.

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Speaker 2: So two o nine on the Golden State Lumber and

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Speaker 2: Showroom text line, we tease this at the end of

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Speaker 2: our last segment, said, was the last year a good

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Speaker 2: draft for the forty nine ers? And I personally think

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Speaker 2: it's a big, large grade of incomplete, just because we

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Speaker 2: still have to see a lot more out of these players,

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Speaker 2: whether it be missing time due to injury like Michael Williams,

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Speaker 2: running back Jordan James who might be suited for a

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Speaker 2: larger role this year, or just not getting a lot

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Speaker 2: of starts and having some flashes but needing to see

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Speaker 2: generally more like Alfred Collins and CJ.

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Speaker 1: West and Nick Martin for example. So where are you

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Speaker 2: Last year's draft crew in terms of your expectations and

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, it was a great volume draft.

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Speaker 3: The forty nine ers, you know, got a fourteen man

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Speaker 3: to free agents. So it's a it's a high volume guys,

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Speaker 3: I have a high volume of players. Second, secondly, it

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Speaker 3: takes two three years to get to let the whole

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Speaker 3: Mckel Williams really good player, Alfred Collins I think, really

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Speaker 3: Some people really believe in Jordan James. There's Derek Canteen,

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Speaker 3: There's Drake Nugent. So it's a good volume draft. I

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Speaker 3: be like, hey, John, there's no great player there there,

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Speaker 3: you know. I think the greatest player in that draft

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Speaker 1: But he's had some early concussion issues too, so that's that.

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Speaker 3: And also there's more there. There's a backstory there, something's

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Speaker 3: he was like persona non grata, like nobody wanted him around.

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Speaker 3: a backstory there that I'm not I'm not. I don't

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Speaker 3: think we know yet, but something's going on there because

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Speaker 3: Nick Martin is too athletic, too talented, and he had

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Speaker 2: So I think he might be the best talent that

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Speaker 3: And Upton stouts I think a really great young player.

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Speaker 4: I really do.

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Speaker 3: Anytime you can look back at a draft and say,

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Speaker 3: this was the volume draft, kind of like the Niners

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Speaker 2: I won't go through the whole thing right now because

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Speaker 2: I think I did it once on the Seahawks front,

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Speaker 2: and it's a really disheartening thing to look at. And

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Speaker 2: it makes sense when you watch the way their youth

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Speaker 2: I would say that Upton Stout's probably the one through

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Speaker 2: the course of the full season that I would say

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Speaker 3: come on, they were They had twenty sacks. Bosa himself

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Speaker 3: the Jets, they had twenty six. I mean, twenty sacks

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Speaker 3: is a pitiful, pathetic, awful number that should haunt them

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Speaker 3: every night. Today was a big day in the draft

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Speaker 3: Champagne and this guy is an incredible pass rusher. He

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Speaker 3: might be their their pick. He's one of the guys

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Speaker 3: they'll be looking at both at twenty seven, but I'll

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Speaker 3: probably maybe even in round two. All right, Well, when

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Speaker 3: made some comments on this at the owner's meetings. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they want to limit Christian McCaffrey's workload. We understand the

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Speaker 3: whether we say yes or no. Eight o eight kmbre

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Speaker 3: the Sports Leader. All right, So let's tell you all

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Speaker 1: This at the end.

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Speaker 2: So last weekend I had the pleasure of going last

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Speaker 2: minute to watch the Elite eight Arizona Purdue. My girlfriend's

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Speaker 2: the tie into all of this, and so afterwards we

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Speaker 2: Square down in San Jose. It's a great time talk

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Speaker 2: to the football coach. Brent Brennan, former San Jose State coach,

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Speaker 2: They're in six, the Raheem Moster an undrafted guy, right.

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Speaker 2: Most likely. He's a dynamic return guy. They don't have

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of different avenues.

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Speaker 2: But we got to be real and that rookies and

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Speaker 3: some vested interest against rookies. He will play rookies, but

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Speaker 3: And then a lot of times rookies aren't that good,

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Speaker 4: But oftentimes rookies do not.

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Speaker 3: but I just I really do believe he'll play a

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Speaker 3: that you mentally have to be really really up to speed,

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Speaker 4: It's mentally very challenging.

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Speaker 4: But I think he will play.

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Speaker 2: I think if Shanahan was here, he would push back

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Speaker 2: like Steve Kirk can't develop any young talent. It's like, Okay,

433
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Speaker 2: I get what you're saying. In the larger picture of it,

434
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Speaker 2: like true, no, I'm show No, I'm just joking. The

435
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Speaker 2: point I'm making, I guess with Shanahan is like I'm

436
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Speaker 2: just looking at kind of the recent history. We're like, yeah,

437
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Speaker 2: of course there are exceptions, but by a large relative

438
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Speaker 2: to other competitors or other teams that we see or

439
00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,880
Speaker 2: other people from the coaching tree, it takes a little

440
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Speaker 2: bit of time where it's a demanding kind of offense

441
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Speaker 2: where you ask a lot of your position players, like receivers.

442
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Speaker 1: You don't just have to be a great route runner.

443
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Speaker 2: You got to be a great blocker too, right, And

444
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Speaker 2: so it's like it's a demanding kind of offense to

445
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Speaker 2: where I think if you're someone like Kyle Shanahan, with

446
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Speaker 2: how much he understands the nuances of this game and

447
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Speaker 2: how much he's going to demand, that's why brock Perdy,

448
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's part of the equation of what makes

449
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Speaker 2: him such a remarkable and rare story of how well

450
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Speaker 2: those two work together is not just that he was

451
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Speaker 2: the last pick of the draft and he was a

452
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Speaker 2: guy that nobody really expected to do this coming out

453
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Speaker 2: of Iowa State. To run a Kyle Shanahan offense to

454
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Speaker 2: that degree, you can say he has the Avengers cast

455
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Speaker 2: around him, or he did when he came into this role.

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Speaker 1: You can say that all you want.

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Speaker 2: The bottom line is you still got to execute a

458
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Speaker 2: lot at a very very high level. And I know

459
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Speaker 2: we were talking during the break about how it is

460
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Speaker 2: first preseason outing. You were so impressed with the way

461
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Speaker 2: he was using the clock, and so it's not an

462
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Speaker 2: indictment on Shanahan as a coach, but I think if

463
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Speaker 2: you just look at the history of it, Yeah, there's

464
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Speaker 2: a lot of factors, which includes health and it includes

465
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Speaker 2: the type of player you draft and the type of

466
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Speaker 2: potential you get out of there, and also who's the

467
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Speaker 2: ahead of them on the depth chart.

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Speaker 1: Those all matter.

469
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Speaker 2: But it is a demanding offense where I think, if

470
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Speaker 2: you're Kyle, you are going to throw a rookie out

471
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Speaker 2: there only if you feel sure that they can execute

472
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Speaker 2: at the level that you demand, which is a really

473
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Speaker 2: high one.

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Speaker 3: Well, and there's a lot that goes into this, like,

475
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Speaker 3: for example, we say quote unquote rookie like they're all

476
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Speaker 3: the same, but guess what they're not. Some guys are

477
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Speaker 3: twenty five and twenty six, some guys are twenty.

478
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Speaker 4: I mean that's a that's a big difference right there.

479
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Speaker 3: So you have to know and you can draft older

480
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Speaker 3: players that played six years in college, and or you

481
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 3: could draft guys like you know, Keldrick Falk who's really

482
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Speaker 3: raw and really young and I think he's just turned twenty.

483
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Speaker 4: So you know, that's the other thing.

484
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Speaker 3: Within the whole scope of rookies, there's old rookies and

485
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Speaker 3: young rookies. There's guys that are ready to play. There's

486
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Speaker 3: guys that you know you're drafting that they need a

487
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 3: red shirt year. This guy needs to lift weights for year.

488
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Speaker 3: This guy needs to. This guy, you know, never played

489
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Speaker 3: tight end before. He's gonna transition. He's got to, you know,

490
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Speaker 3: I mean Oscar Delp from Georgia. Never really produced all

491
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Speaker 3: that much, but he's very, very athletic. Is somebody gonna

492
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Speaker 3: ask him to step in and play a lot this year?

493
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Speaker 3: He's never even had three hundred receiving yards at Georgia,

494
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Speaker 3: but he's very, very talented. Might be drafted pretty high

495
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Speaker 3: and he might be asked to play a lot this year.

496
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Speaker 3: So you know, you just got to It's a case

497
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Speaker 3: by case basis really and more than anything, you know,

498
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Speaker 3: you've got to identify the right players and then you've

499
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Speaker 3: got to be able to coach them up and work

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Speaker 3: them into your system and get him on the field

501
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Speaker 3: and get him to produce. And there are no excuses.

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Speaker 3: It's either a do or don't thing. You either do

503
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Speaker 3: or you don't.

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Speaker 2: And right now they've fallen behind the Rams and Seahawks

505
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Speaker 2: and it's time for them to get it cooking on

506
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Speaker 2: the personnel side in the offseason. Well, it talks to

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Speaker 2: Kylon Mills, new Giants pre and post game host but

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Speaker 2: not new to the Bay Area, from NBC Sports Bay area.

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Speaker 2: We will talk to her coming up in just a bit.

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Speaker 4: Love, Kylon.

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Speaker 1: I know you've known Kylin for a while.

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Speaker 2: As well, and it's cool to see her back in

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Speaker 2: the Bay as we will get to have her on

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Speaker 2: the Sports Leader for the first time since taken on

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Speaker 2: this role. So lots of digests from the Giants beyond

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Speaker 2: just our Peyton manning fun. She's getting to do a

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Speaker 2: little pre and post along with Laura Britt before Laura

518
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Speaker 2: makes her move. And good to see Laura out at

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Speaker 2: opening Day. Always fun talking her and have yet to

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Speaker 2: catch up with Kylon in person, but we'll get to

521
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Speaker 2: talk to her when we come on back and that'll

522
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Speaker 2: be fantastic. It's Papa and Silver with Larry Krueger on

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Speaker 2: Larry Krueger hanging out with us, and it is time

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Speaker 2: to welcome in our first guest of the day on

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Speaker 2: the Yuma Guest Line. She is your new host for

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Speaker 2: Giants pre and Post on NBC Sports Bay Area. She

534
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Speaker 2: has been in the Bay Area before, and now she

535
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Speaker 2: is everywhere repping the Orange and Black, looking great in

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Speaker 2: the studios with Sergio Romo, Rich Arelia and all the

537
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Speaker 2: great faces you're gonna see throughout this season.

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Speaker 1: She is Kylon Mills and she joins us on the

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Speaker 1: Yuma Guest Line. What's up, Kylon?

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Speaker 6: Hey, how's it going? Guys? Very good to be talking

541
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Speaker 6: to you on KMBR.

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Speaker 7: And to be getting baseball season rolling. I mean, there's

543
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Speaker 7: no better time in the Bay than a seventy five

544
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Speaker 7: and sunny day. Now, seventy five pushing it, maybe, but

545
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Speaker 7: a seventy and sunny day out of Oracle Park, it's

546
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Speaker 7: it's a lot of fun.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, glad to be here.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you could say seventy, but certainly when

549
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Speaker 2: the sun is shining and the wind is a little

550
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Speaker 2: bit lighter, it feels like it's eighty seven.

551
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Speaker 4: So hot.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yes, So let's just the thing about the Bay.

553
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Speaker 7: The coldest fifty degrees have ever felt and the hottest

554
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Speaker 7: seventy degrees I've ever felt, I swear to gosh.

555
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're talking about someone who's been in like the

556
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Speaker 2: Midwest and doing a lot of stuff in Chicago. So

557
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Speaker 2: that is taken with honesty, like any weather comments I make.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be the softest California, you know what,

559
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Speaker 2: ever said.

560
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Speaker 1: So I'm glad to get some credibility to this. Yes

561
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Speaker 1: you do.

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Speaker 7: So. When I first moved here in twenty twenty, the

563
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Speaker 7: last time I lived here, I remember one of my

564
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Speaker 7: first thoughts was like walking around and I'm like, oh

565
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Speaker 7: my gosh, what is wrong with these people? It's fifty

566
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Speaker 7: five and everybody is wearing puffer coats.

567
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Speaker 6: They're dressed like it's frigid out here.

568
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Speaker 7: They're crazy, And like one year in, I'm now the

569
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Speaker 7: person like it's funny how your body just acclimates and

570
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Speaker 7: it's all relative, right, Like now that I'm here now

571
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Speaker 7: it's like and it's fifty I'm now freezing. I'm like

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Speaker 7: putting on gloves to walk the dog. If my husband's

573
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Speaker 7: laughing at me, he's like, you have become soft, So listen,

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Speaker 7: it's all relative, all right, You're not soft, it's just

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Speaker 7: what you're used to Greg.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I appreciate that.

577
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Speaker 2: Let's start with just coming back to the Bay and

578
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Speaker 2: again this is not brand new for you, but what

579
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Speaker 2: the Giants I was talking about how Tony Vicello is

580
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 2: in a really peculiar situation where it's a big outside

581
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Speaker 2: the box hire by Buster Posey. It is an unprecedented

582
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Speaker 2: kind of move. At the same time, this isn't a

583
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Speaker 2: team that is rebuilding, and they have tempered expectations. Now

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Speaker 2: it's not saying that they think they're going to be

585
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Speaker 2: neck and neck with the Dodgers, although in cases like

586
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, you never know what you're gonna get.

587
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Speaker 2: There are expectations and eagerness with this fan base, and

588
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Speaker 2: I think, as you probably could tell from the opening series,

589
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Speaker 2: a little bit of antsiness at times that they got

590
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Speaker 2: to go out there and produce. And you know that

591
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 2: the Bay Area, whether we're talking forty nine Ers or

592
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 2: Warriors or now in this case, the Giants, there are

593
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Speaker 2: always going to be some high standards and expectations. And

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Speaker 2: for Tony Vitello, he's walking into the fire.

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Speaker 1: A little bit.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, oh, one hundred percent. I think some of the

597
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 7: reactions that we've seen from both fans from the media

598
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 7: have spoken to that a little bit, because look, there's

599
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Speaker 7: history with his franchise, and people do have high expectations

600
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Speaker 7: even if it's not a World Series this year, like

601
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Speaker 7: they want to make it into a wildcard spot. And

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Speaker 7: you know, this isn't, like you said, a team where

603
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 7: the floor is pretty low, because you're totally rebuilding, Like

604
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Speaker 7: they brought back most of their core from last year,

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Speaker 7: aside from adding you know, everyday players in Luis Rais

606
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Speaker 7: and Harrison Vader, who I'm sure we're going to talk about,

607
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Speaker 7: and adding to some of the pitching rotational depth. You know,

608
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 7: this is a place where he still has to get

609
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 7: wins and the results do matter. Like this isn't just hey,

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Speaker 7: a rebuild development year, like this is the we want

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Speaker 7: to win now and you know, at least get above

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Speaker 7: the mark they were. You're at five hundred and so

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Speaker 7: I definitely think it's a tough position. Here's what I

614
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Speaker 7: will say, coming from my last stop where I was

615
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Speaker 7: covering a lot of college sports in the Big Ten network,

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Speaker 7: I do think it's a positive for Like, I think

617
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Speaker 7: it's more realistic for a coach or a manager now

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Speaker 7: to make the jump from the college level to the

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Speaker 7: professional level. Because the college level is now the professional level,

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Speaker 7: Like you're now managing egos because of the way the

621
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Speaker 7: NIL and now revenue sharing and the transfer portal of

622
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Speaker 7: transform college sports, like you're managing and obviously now teams

623
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Speaker 7: are in you know, schools are hiring separate gms and

624
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Speaker 7: stuff because it's so much to ask for the coaches,

625
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Speaker 7: but you know you're having to manage you know, salaries

626
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Speaker 7: and essentially and roster CAFs and how do you manage

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Speaker 7: the different egos guys have. And everyone comes in now

628
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 7: wanting something for themselves at the college level, not just

629
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Speaker 7: say we're here to play for the team and enjoy

630
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Speaker 7: our scholarship, Like I want to make this much money.

631
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Speaker 6: I want to be the guy I want to.

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Speaker 7: So that's what I will say is I think some

633
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Speaker 7: of that management and the player management and individual management

634
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 7: is more similar now.

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Speaker 6: Than it was before. The big thing, though, is that

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Speaker 6: the college.

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Speaker 7: Season's only sixty games, so now you got to ride

638
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 7: out one hundred and sixty two games of highs and

639
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 7: lows and be able to manage your guys in that way.

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Speaker 7: So one of the big differences there. But for Tony,

641
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Speaker 7: I do think it's a positive because college athletics has

642
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 7: changed so much in the last couple of years that

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Speaker 7: you are now dealing with a lot of the money

644
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Speaker 7: and the ego side that you just didn't have before.

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Speaker 3: I'll get to my giant question in just a second,

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Speaker 3: but Larry Krueger here, and I'm so excited that for

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Speaker 3: you and for Charlie. Kylon has been a guest on

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Speaker 3: The Krug Show on YouTube in the past. Yeah, we

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Speaker 3: talked as we talked a lot of Warrior basketball over

650
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Speaker 3: the years, and I'm just so excited for you in

651
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 3: this opportunity. And I know you're a former soccer player

652
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 3: collegiate athlete, and I know you and Charlie are both

653
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 3: now in the media game. And if you don't know,

654
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 3: Charlie does TV and radio as well and is very talented.

655
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 4: Talk a little bit about this opportunity for you in

656
00:29:59,080 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 4: your career.

657
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 2: This isn't You're sitting on this set now with guys

658
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 2: like rich Aurelia and Sean Esties and Sergio Romo and

659
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 2: Woa Whoa and Contost and this is an awesome role.

660
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Speaker 4: This is a huge break. I'm so thrilled for you.

661
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 6: Well, thank you.

662
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Speaker 7: First of all, Aria, it was always a blast whenever

663
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Speaker 7: we got to talk some Warriors basketball hop on the

664
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Speaker 7: cruise show, talk on lots on Warriors.

665
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Speaker 6: So appreciate you saying.

666
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 7: That, and obviously have a lot of respect for all

667
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 7: you've done in the Bay Area.

668
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 6: And yeah, I think that.

669
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 7: You're absolutely right, And that's a huge opportunity. It's a

670
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 7: huge role for folks who aren't familiar with my background.

671
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 7: So I moved to the Bay Area in twenty twenty

672
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 7: to work at Kraan for News as a sports anchor

673
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 7: reporter there and was able to kind of branch out

674
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Speaker 7: and do a little bit of filling in at NBC

675
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 7: Sports Bay Area after my contract there ended, I was

676
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 7: doing mostly a shows.

677
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 6: I sold in a couple of times.

678
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 7: On Warriors, and then did some work at the Pac

679
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 7: twelve network as well, and moved away, moved back to

680
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 7: the Chicago area where I'm from, and was working at

681
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 7: the Big ten network in Fox prior to coming back.

682
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Speaker 7: But you know this, this opportunity kind of came across

683
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 7: my desk is well aware, Like Laura Brittain held this

684
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 7: role for a long time and it's been amazing at it.

685
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 7: This was her job as long.

686
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 6: As she wanted it. But decided to make a decision.

687
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 7: For her family to move closer to where her home

688
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 7: is and back to Atlanta, and you know, got a

689
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 7: phone call that, Hey, would you be interested in coming back?

690
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 6: And you know what would it take. We'd love to

691
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 6: have you, and.

692
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 7: You know, the conversations just kind of blossom from there.

693
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 7: But immediately this grabbed my attention as being an amazing

694
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Speaker 7: role from living here for three and a half four years.

695
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 7: Because a various sports fans are extremely passionate. There's an

696
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 7: amazing fan base here for you mentioned like forty nine

697
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 7: Ers Giants.

698
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 6: I mean it goes just beyond the Giants, but.

699
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 7: Amazing fan base, a ton of passion for this organization.

700
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 6: Like I said, high expectations.

701
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 7: The history is there, and then NBC Sports Barria is

702
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 7: really like a top network and top station. I've moved

703
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 7: all over the country. I've worked with a number of

704
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 7: different stations. I've worked for national outlets now at this point,

705
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 7: and there's just a lot of amazing people that are

706
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 7: both behind the scenes and in front of the scenes.

707
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 6: And he brought up some of the names I get.

708
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 7: To work with, Sean us this is on the show

709
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 7: with me tonight. You know, rich Arelia Sergio obviously now

710
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 7: being a huge, a huge part of what we're doing.

711
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 7: Cool to see him make that transition. I covered him

712
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 7: with the Age back, you know, just a couple of

713
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 7: years back when I was working on local news.

714
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 6: And now he's my partner on the desk.

715
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,239
Speaker 7: So it's surreal. It's just it's an amazing opportunity. I

716
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 7: was so excited, like I said, when I kind of

717
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 7: got the call. Of course, we're all sad to see

718
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 7: Laura brit go.

719
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 6: She's amazing at what she does. But it was just

720
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 6: a huge, a huge opportunity. And look, you guys, like, if.

721
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 7: I never lived through another Midwest winter again, I'm good.

722
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 6: I have not lived back to Chicago for a decade.

723
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 7: I had not lived in Chicago for a decade before

724
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 7: moving back, like one winter. As you brought up, my

725
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 7: husband Charlie and I looked at each other, We're like, Uh,

726
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 7: this sucks.

727
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 6: Outdoor people.

728
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 7: We're beach people, like we love the May area.

729
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 6: We love it here, and so we're thrilled to be back.

730
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: Well, it's great to have you back.

731
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Speaker 2: And we're talking to Kyla Mills here on the UMA

732
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 2: guest line. If you couldn't tell she's one of the

733
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 2: ultimate stereotypes of a true diva talent in this business. Now,

734
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 2: I kid, but where I am serious all is that

735
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 2: the Giants are a team that for a lot of

736
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 2: these last decade and a half, really, whether they were

737
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 2: a team that was five hundred, whether they were way

738
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 2: out of the playoffs, or whether they were winning three

739
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 2: World Series in five years, it's been led by pitching

740
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 2: and defense, and now Buster Posey's in charge. But roster wise,

741
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 2: this was going into the season looking at a team

742
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 2: where it's like, wait a minute, the offensive lineup has

743
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 2: a lot of potential and there's a lot more question

744
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 2: marks on the pitching. Now, what we've seen thus far

745
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 2: is they're still led by the pitching now the defense

746
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 2: at times, and it's had its takeups too, like the

747
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 2: Arrows yesterday. But I don't know how much you've gotten

748
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 2: to talk about the recent history with guys like Richie

749
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 2: and Sergio and Sean Estes and everybody on the set.

750
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 2: But like this so far is a team that it's

751
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 2: a familiar product, but it's an unexpected product based on

752
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 2: what we thought this roster was going to look like,

753
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 2: how do you evaluate that just six games into one

754
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty two, right.

755
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 7: I mean, it's hard because it is such a small

756
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 7: sample size. But I will say going into the season

757
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 7: talking to all of our analysts, Alex Pasovich also a

758
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 7: great resource who's been you know, in that role as

759
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 7: a Giants insider for NBC Sports bearer for a while.

760
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 7: Everyone's like, this is the deepest roster in terms of

761
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 7: offensive potential that the Giants have.

762
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 6: Had in a couple of years.

763
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 7: Because, as you just put out, in recent memory, that's

764
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 7: really been the bread and butter. And you know, when

765
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 7: I moved here in a couple of years that I

766
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 7: covered the Giants, who was all of the you know,

767
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 7: kind of funky Gabe Kapler stuff with the platooning and

768
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 7: manufacturing run small ball. It was, you know, kind of

769
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 7: all over the map to what we saw last year,

770
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 7: which was a lot of you know, you could rely

771
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 7: on the long ball, but also very high strikeout at times,

772
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 7: a little bit feast or famine. But this particular group

773
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 7: of players has the most offensive potential than what we've

774
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 7: seen in a minute now. That hasn't been the case

775
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 7: so far, but I think you do have to take

776
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,240
Speaker 7: into account that the opening series against the Yankees.

777
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 6: They have the second highest odds to win the World

778
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 6: Series for good reason.

779
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 7: They've got some really good pitchers. And then that's why

780
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 7: I think we got to the Podrays. We had the

781
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 7: one big breakout game where we saw I think, the

782
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 7: potential of what this offense could be when all these

783
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 7: guys are going, I mean Matt Chapman being back one

784
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 7: hundred percent healthy and seeing him get hawks. I did

785
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 7: spend time with the team in spring training as well.

786
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 7: During spring training, like you hope that carries over. I

787
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,919
Speaker 7: do think having a a you know, a really good

788
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 7: contact hitor like Louisa Rise in the mix is a

789
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 7: positive because again, that's someone what they were lacking last year,

790
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 7: full season of rock fail Devers Like, there's every reason

791
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 7: to be optimistic, to be high on what this team's

792
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 7: capable of offensively, and I feel like looking at Game

793
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 7: two against the Potters, we saw a flash of that

794
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 7: every single guy gets a hit, you score multiple.

795
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 6: Innings, four different innings, and.

796
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 7: Then really left a lot of runners on base too,

797
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 7: where you could have scored more.

798
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 6: But can they do it consistently?

799
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 7: I feel like that's always the question, But that's the

800
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 7: biggest question now at least.

801
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 6: I'm talking to Sean and Richard some of the.

802
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 7: Guys, Like, I think what we saw in Game two

803
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 7: is the potential of this group. But can they consistently

804
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 7: perform in that way and can they do it against

805
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 7: some better pitchers?

806
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 6: You know, it remains to be seen.

807
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 7: But on paper, this for sure is a team that

808
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 7: should be I don't know if being led by the offense,

809
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 7: but yeah, I mean, I think our rotation is to me,

810
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 7: it's not going to be the factor that's going to

811
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 7: win or lose the Giant season. Like, the rotation is solid.

812
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 7: The biggest concern area was the bullpen, and now here

813
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 7: we are, like you just said, Greg, like the bullpen

814
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 7: hasn't been the problem. The bullpen has been pretty strong

815
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,720
Speaker 7: outside of you know, some tense moments there for Walker

816
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 7: in the ninth of Game one against the Padres.

817
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 6: But I will be surprised if we don't see the script.

818
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 7: Flip a little bit and the offense, you know, start

819
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 7: to produce more consistently as the season gets on and

820
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 7: they get a little bit more continuity under their belts.

821
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,760
Speaker 6: Also, though I have questions about.

822
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 7: Running out the same guys for six straight games, like

823
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 7: a fatigued factor either and kind of we saw the

824
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 7: big offensive game in Game two last night, you know,

825
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 7: kind of petered out, so we'll have to see. I'm

826
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 7: holding judgment for a larger sample size on that.

827
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 4: You know, this is such a great role for you.

828
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 3: I mean in some way, you know, in some ways,

829
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 3: like when you're watching these postgames things, you're thinking, after

830
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 3: a great game, you're like, oh, I'd love to do that,

831
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 3: and then after a disaster game, alcohol, I'm so glad

832
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 3: that's not me, you know what I mean. I'm glad

833
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 3: I'm not sitting there having to pose questions to Richie

834
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 3: tonight because it's rough.

835
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 2: You know. I know you can handle it because you're

836
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 2: a total pro.

837
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 3: But that is kind of the nature of baseball, is

838
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 3: that we're going to tune in to watch you and

839
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 3: sometimes we're going to be so excited to see here

840
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 3: hear your guys interviews and here what you guys have

841
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 3: to say, and then as other times we're like, oh

842
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 3: my god, can this end fast enough? You know, talk

843
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 3: a little bit about the daily nature of this sport

844
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,280
Speaker 3: and the challenge of working with all these different hosts

845
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 3: and these different analysts.

846
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 4: I should say, yeah.

847
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, and I think that in baseball that is

848
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 7: one of the biggest challenges. First of all, just the

849
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 7: fact that it's one hundred and sixty two game season

850
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 7: and you're trying to make it interesting and make the

851
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 7: conversations entertaining and not feel like old hat by the

852
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 7: end of the season. That's a huge challenge right away.

853
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 7: You've got to try to reinvent yourself and the conversations

854
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 7: and the show constantly, you know, to keep it interesting

855
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 7: when it is a season that is so many games.

856
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 6: And then the other thing is you have to be

857
00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 6: ready for this, as you just point out, like the

858
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 6: highs and the oh so a.

859
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 7: Losing streak lag the Giants went on last year, going

860
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 7: back a couple of years, and I filled it on

861
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 7: the A's Try filling an.

862
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:07,439
Speaker 6: A's postgame show.

863
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 7: You guys, when they are losing to the White Sox,

864
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 7: who were historically the worst team in the baseball they've

865
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 7: now won lost ten in a row.

866
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 6: You don't know half the.

867
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 7: Players who are out there, because that's the other thing

868
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 7: of you know, challenging part about covering that team going

869
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 7: back a couple of years, when it's just like you know,

870
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 7: it's basically the farm system being rolled out there, and

871
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 7: you know, I think that that's like the fun challenge

872
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 7: of what we do is being able to make it

873
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 7: hopefully interesting and a little bit fun for the viewers,

874
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 7: whether it be unpeeling the story of like an individual

875
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 7: during some of those times where you know, maybe it's

876
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 7: all coming together on the field and the game is

877
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 7: boring or it's not what you want.

878
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 6: I mean Opening Night that I cover now. Of course,

879
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 6: the first game was on I should say Opening Day.

880
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 6: Opening night was on Netflix. But Opening Day and.

881
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 7: My first show, they had one hit you guys, one

882
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 7: hit for my first post game. I'm like, guys, can

883
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 7: you give me a little stuffy to work with here?

884
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:55,919
Speaker 6: Like come on?

885
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 7: And even you know, thirty minutes it flies. At the

886
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 7: same time, there's some of those days they're just like man.

887
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 7: So I think that's the kind of the fun challenge

888
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 7: as a professional is how do we continue to evolve

889
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 7: so that it is entertaining for the viewers? And like

890
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 7: I said, I think for me, like looking at the

891
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 7: individual stories of some of the different players, like how

892
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 7: can we help connect the audience and a fan to

893
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 7: who they are or maybe that one bright spot of

894
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 7: an individual who's doing well amongst you know, a losing

895
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 7: skid when it does happen, or maybe it's you know,

896
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 7: the pitching staff is doing well and there's something we

897
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 7: can highlight there. So, you know, I think we always

898
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 7: want to be honest with the viewers and we don't

899
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 7: want to sugarcoat anything. But at the same time, like

900
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 7: no one wants to listen to Doom and Gloom for

901
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 7: an entire you know, thirty minute show night in and

902
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 7: night out when when they are going through a losing

903
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 7: streak or slow time. So you know, trying to mix

904
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 7: in the positive and find those positives and the personal

905
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 7: stories like that's always a challenge. The other thing I

906
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 7: will say, the last thing I'll say this guy's is

907
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 7: that NBC Sports Area has such a great team, Like

908
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 7: we're not afraid to get creative, Like we're coming up

909
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 7: with segments, we're doing dollar trivia we did the other

910
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 7: night with Rich and you know, so we're not afraid

911
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 7: to think outside of the box on.

912
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 6: Some of the stuff that we do when it.

913
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 7: Because you kind of have to, Like that's the nature

914
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 7: of baseball with so many games and such a long season,

915
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 7: and you know there's going to be lulls, like how

916
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 7: do we keep it interesting? And you know, so coming

917
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 7: out of some of that, coming up with some of

918
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 7: that out of the box steps is really what makes

919
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 7: it fun.

920
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 6: Can we do a taste test? We were just talking

921
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 6: about this last night.

922
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 7: Sean's going on the road with a team for their

923
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 7: series in Baltimore next week and he's really excited to

924
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 7: try the crab.

925
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 6: I guess they have.

926
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 7: Crab tacos is a new menu item out there in Baltimore.

927
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 6: So we're like, we're like, can we get that?

928
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 7: On the chat, we do a change up where we talk,

929
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 7: you know, with the in game announcers. We're like, all right,

930
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 7: let's get the let's get the crab sued. You know,

931
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 7: it's like you got to have some fun with it

932
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 7: at some point because it is a long season and

933
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 7: and like you said, the results may not always be there.

934
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 2: So yeah, Caylin, you're talking about the one hit on

935
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 2: your opener. It kind of reminds me of something I

936
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 2: was actually riffing about with Croove on the air, like

937
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 2: last week or the week before, which was when I

938
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 2: was doing the Cal football pre and post this year.

939
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,240
Speaker 2: Kind of threw it together a little bit last minute,

940
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 2: and the first one I did, it was such a

941
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 2: late aim. They gave up like a million unanswered points

942
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 2: after a hot start and they lost a duke, and

943
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 2: so it's like eleven o'clock, it's cold, it's dark, nobody's there, and.

944
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 1: My co host was not present for that one.

945
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 2: So I'm just like, all right, well, uh that was

946
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 2: that was something after the first couple of droughs.

947
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's uh, hey, yep.

948
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 6: That's exactly you know what it's like.

949
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 7: And you got to bring the energy, you know what

950
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 7: I mean, You're like, Okay, I gotta still find a

951
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 7: way to bring my own spark and to make this interesting,

952
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 7: uh for the two viewers that are listening to this

953
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 7: cow post.

954
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 3: And I know you're getting you're gonna kill off. I

955
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 3: know you're gonna kill it. I know you're gonna have

956
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 3: a great year. In a way, I think the exciting

957
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 3: thing is is Tony. It's like because of Tony, I

958
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 3: think you guys have a whole another layer of things

959
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 3: to go through, uh every night, and I'm really eager.

960
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 3: I mean they're all good. All those analysts are good.

961
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 3: I think Areally is really good. And I want to

962
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 3: hear did she break down you know Tony and kind

963
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 3: of the way he handles his lineup throughout the year.

964
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 4: I think that's going to be.

965
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 3: Some really really good, good conversations, Yeah, for sure.

966
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 7: And I think that we've already, you know, we've already

967
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 7: been doing some of that again, just kind of tracking

968
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 7: the fact that he's been starting the same guys five games,

969
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 7: six games coming off of spring training where you know

970
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 7: you're getting a lot of reps and usually this time

971
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 7: of year, you want to give the bench some run

972
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 7: and give those guys some rests, and he hasn't done that,

973
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 7: and he's talked about so he's talked about feeling like

974
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 7: it's more important right now to build the continuity and

975
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 7: doing still confidence and to keep rolling those guys out there.

976
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 7: But I think all of those decisions are super interesting

977
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 7: because this is something we haven't seen before and also

978
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 7: an individual and Tony Vitello who has not been in.

979
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 6: This position before.

980
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,240
Speaker 7: So there there's definitely gonna be a lot of fasting

981
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,399
Speaker 7: conversations about that. We just were talking about it quite

982
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 7: a bit on the show yesterday during pregimen. We found

983
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 7: out it was the same starters he kind of assumed

984
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 7: yesterday like, Okay, Susak's gonna come in right like this

985
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 7: this is going to be the game that we see

986
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 7: him start and he finally makes, you know, makes his

987
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,240
Speaker 7: first start of the year and all that, and he didn't,

988
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 7: so you know, he talked about it in the pregame

989
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 7: show and it was interesting. But I think the guys

990
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 7: both kind of said and Sean and Rich that like,

991
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 7: we really haven't fully seen Tony's personality come out yet,

992
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 7: and I don't think that we've seen one hundred percent

993
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 7: yet of what his vision is for this team and

994
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 7: how he is going to do things and make those decisions,

995
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 7: because like we're all still learning as we go. So

996
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 7: it's definitely going to be a fascinating thing to watch

997
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 7: and to see how this team evolves and Tony evolves,

998
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 7: because at the end of the day, this is totally

999
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 7: new for him. So you know, I think puffed the

1000
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 7: brakes on the on the panic button for fans. I

1001
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 7: know after the Yankee series that people were all over

1002
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 7: the map, and you guys both know sports fans never

1003
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 7: overreact about anything ever, very well, bat all under.

1004
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 6: One hundred percent.

1005
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 7: So it'll be interesting to see as time goes on

1006
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 7: and you know, he develops and grows into the role kind.

1007
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 6: Of you know what some of those decisions are going.

1008
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 7: To be, so a hundred percent there's going to be

1009
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 7: a lot to bite into there, and it'll be great

1010
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 7: to get some of our experts analysis and like, Okay,

1011
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 7: why do you think he did this or that or uh,

1012
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 7: you know kind of what's going on in Tony Bitello's

1013
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 7: mind because as of right now, it's still still an

1014
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 7: unknown because he is so new.

1015
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 2: Colin, I know you got a run as we get

1016
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 2: ready for another Giants game. They got the Mets for four.

1017
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 2: But real quick, since you've been doing everything, including a

1018
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 2: lot of college basketball, who's cutting down the nets and

1019
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 2: the men's and women's Final four?

1020
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 7: Oh great question I've been following. Oh I love college

1021
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 7: basketball and I'm good.

1022
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 6: I'm not in any specific career.

1023
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 7: I actually had a doctor's spointment, but I moved it

1024
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 7: up just for you guys because I love you so much.

1025
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 7: Actually my doctor to reschedule. But that original story, you

1026
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 7: could have gone with the original story that you loved us.

1027
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 6: I added myself there.

1028
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 7: So final four, so I'll tell you who I picked

1029
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 7: in my bracket, and a lot of people laughed at me,

1030
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 7: But I had Michigan going all the way on the

1031
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 7: men's side, and I've been doing some Final four shows

1032
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 7: as well on Amazon, and a lot of people are like, oh, man,

1033
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 7: like after how Michigan played in the Big Ten Tournament championship,

1034
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 7: they got smoked by Purdue.

1035
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 6: It's a team that started out the year hot.

1036
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 7: But some people are like, yeah, it feels like they

1037
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 7: may be peaked too early. But I had Michigan, and

1038
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 7: now after I've watched Michigan and the way they've dominated

1039
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 7: in the tournament, I also think they have one of

1040
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 7: the better paths in terms of the West Region, I'm

1041
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 7: feeling better about going with the Wolverines all the way.

1042
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,240
Speaker 7: I mean, this is just a team that they're versatile.

1043
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 6: They're complete.

1044
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 7: You know, they're elite defensively and offensively, Like they're top

1045
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 7: five nationally in both field goal percentage and field goal

1046
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 7: percentage defense. Yacks a Lendeborg's a dog. He can score

1047
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 7: a variety of levels. I mean, standing at six nine,

1048
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 7: he's pretty versatile, shooting thirty seven plus percent from beyond

1049
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 7: the arc. So I think that Michigan is a very

1050
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 7: complete team.

1051
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 6: I think Arizona's the next most complete team.

1052
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 7: And I'm really fun that that matchup is a Final

1053
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 7: four matchup because I think those are by far the

1054
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 7: two best teams in college basketball and best in the tournament.

1055
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 7: So to me, that's kind of a quasi national championship

1056
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:44,959
Speaker 7: there that could really go either way.

1057
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 6: On the women's side.

1058
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 7: You guys, you got a ride with Yukon, I'm sorry

1059
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:48,399
Speaker 7: I've had.

1060
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 6: They are so far and away better.

1061
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:55,280
Speaker 7: Than everyone, and I love coach clothes and I love UCLA.

1062
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 8: They're a really good team, but I just don't think

1063
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 8: they or anyone can beat the depth and the talent

1064
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 8: that Yukon has on this roster, not to mention being

1065
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 8: lit by one of the all time greats in Junia Oriama,

1066
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 8: but like watching and.

1067
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 7: It's hard because I called some of their Big East

1068
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,240
Speaker 7: games that were fifty forty point games like it's insane,

1069
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,720
Speaker 7: But it's just hard to envision anyone beating the talent

1070
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 7: and the depth that Yukon has. And again, a team

1071
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 7: that's so elite defensively but also with so many weapons offensively.

1072
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 6: So I'm rolling Yukon and rolling Michigan.

1073
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 2: Who you guys got, I'm going Arizona Yukon, But I

1074
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 2: also was kind of forced into conversion to Arizona fandom here,

1075
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 2: so I was out at the Elite game.

1076
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:33,280
Speaker 1: It was awesome.

1077
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 2: It was really stressful, and so that's where I'm gonna go.

1078
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 2: But it does seem like these two teams, Arizona Michigan

1079
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 2: have just on a full blown collision course. So Saturday night,

1080
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 2: yeah lost CTV one hundred percent.

1081
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 6: That could go either way.

1082
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,479
Speaker 7: I feel like, whoever wins that Arizona Michion game wins

1083
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 7: at all. So like I wouldn't be shocked if it's

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Speaker 7: Arizona for sure.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, beware of the ALIGNI yeah, I like

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Speaker 3: the align. I think they're gonna be Connecticut and I

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Speaker 3: think they're gonna upset on on Monday Night. I love

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Speaker 3: the align they have. They have tons of size, all

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Speaker 3: these euros.

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Speaker 2: Yeah they got Page's kid was again the Keaton Waggler

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Speaker 2: stud Give me the.

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Speaker 4: Align, all right?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: Oh I like that.

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Speaker 7: They're the tallest team in college basketball by the way. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: falls So I think definitely size should be careful and

1097
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 7: say the size matters, but it's not not in the way.

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Speaker 4: That you think.

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Speaker 1: Kylin, you're the best.

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Speaker 2: Great to have you back in the Bay and we'll

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Speaker 2: definitely have you on a lot more throughout the season.

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Speaker 2: Go enjoy some pre and posts tonight and we'll be

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Speaker 2: watching Gay to Go.

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Speaker 7: Thank you so much for having me blast to chat

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Speaker 7: with you both, and I'm sure we'll do it as

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Speaker 7: the season goes on.

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Speaker 2: Have a great rest of your day, absolutely, Kylon Mill's

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Speaker 2: always good to catch up with her and great to

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Speaker 2: have her back in the Bay area.

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Speaker 1: All Right, Tom.

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Speaker 2: Husach's joining us coming up in about fifteen minutes, so

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Speaker 2: we'll do a quick reset.

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Speaker 1: Will we come on back.

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Speaker 2: But since we had a quick college basketball tidbit at

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Speaker 2: the end of that, I know you're.

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Speaker 1: Gonna like this.

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Speaker 2: Because Krug is a fun fact kind of guy. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna give him my favorite fun fact that I learned

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Speaker 2: yesterday related to March Madness both tournaments. I'll tell you

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Speaker 2: when I come on back on The Sports Leader.