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Speaker 1: It's the Ray Appleton Podcast from KMJ and kmjnow dot com.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome to our number three of the Ray

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Speaker 2: Appleton Program. Joining us is pretty usual. It's Steve Hilton,

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Speaker 2: who is obviously running for governor. And Steve, last week

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Speaker 2: when you were here, you introduced us to a lady

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Speaker 2: who you'd like to see become lieutenant governor. For those

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Speaker 2: who missed it, can you go through that again? And

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Speaker 2: I understand there are maybe a couple of other names

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Speaker 2: you're going to throw into the mix here.

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Speaker 1: Yes, So the start three with you, Ray. The starting

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Speaker 1: point is my very clear conviction that turning around California

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Speaker 1: after this sixteen years of one party rule disaster of

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Speaker 1: the Democrats, is going to take a team. It's not

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Speaker 1: just one person. I've always believed that, you know, I've

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Speaker 1: seen that working in government myself back in the day

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Speaker 1: in England, the way you build businesses, which I've done

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Speaker 1: on both sides the Atlantic. It's always a team. And

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Speaker 1: I know that we don't run like that in California.

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Speaker 1: The state offices are independently elected and they don't work

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Speaker 1: together once they get there. I want us to be different.

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Speaker 1: So Number one, Gloria Romero Lieutenant governor. She was the

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Speaker 1: leader of the Democrats in the state Senate. She was

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Speaker 1: always focus on education, particularly parents' rights and school choice.

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Speaker 1: That led her into endless clashes with the teacher unions.

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Speaker 1: Eventually she had enough. She left the Democratic Party, joined

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Speaker 1: the Republicans and President Trump. And I'm proud to say

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Speaker 1: and been working with me for years actually at Golden Together,

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Speaker 1: my policy civilization. She's running with me the lieutenant governor.

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Speaker 1: We called it Golden Picket for California. Next, Michael Gates

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Speaker 1: running for attorney General. I've been talking to Michael about

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Speaker 1: it for a year because he's a fantastic fighter. He

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Speaker 1: was the city attorney in Huntington Beach. That's where I

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Speaker 1: launched my campaign for governor. I know Huntington Beach very well.

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Speaker 1: Got to know Michael right at the beginning of this

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Speaker 1: whole process, particularly on the issue of housing, where he

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Speaker 1: fought back against Newsom's housing mandates trying to bully Huntington Beach.

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Speaker 1: They are so many towns and cities across the state.

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Speaker 2: This at all, this choice, Yeah, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: Exactly right. So Michael's a great fighter, and he's part

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Speaker 1: of our Golden Ticket. Fourth member Herb Morgan running for

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Speaker 1: State Controller. Herb and I have been working together actually

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Speaker 1: for a couple of months now on this fraud issue.

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Speaker 1: The State Controller is hugely important for that issue because

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Speaker 1: the State Controller has the power to audit every organization

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Speaker 1: that receives any money from the State of California, open

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Speaker 1: the books, see what's been going on, and crucially to

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Speaker 1: turn off the tap. They can stop the spending. And

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Speaker 1: so he's going to be very important. He's very qualified,

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Speaker 1: serious financial industry guy. He sold his business to Howard

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Speaker 1: Lutnik counter Fitzgerald, now our Commerce secretary. He's operated at

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Speaker 1: the highest levels of finance and so this is a

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Speaker 1: really serious, credible team and it's going to get bigger.

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Speaker 1: But that's the golden ticket for now, the four of.

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Speaker 2: Us and everybody listening. You've got to remember you have

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Speaker 2: to vote for these people in you know, independently of Steve.

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Speaker 2: So it's not like you vote for him, you get

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Speaker 2: all of them. It's not how it works, not how

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Speaker 2: it works at all. It's just want to make sure

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Speaker 2: that everybody knows that. So what are the surprises? I mean,

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Speaker 2: I assume there are going to be more names in

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Speaker 2: the near future.

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Speaker 1: Yes, And there's a separate category. So there's the eight

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Speaker 1: statewide elected positions, and there's the far larger group is

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Speaker 1: actually than the people that as governor I will appoint

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Speaker 1: to the various agencies the bureaucracies in Sacramento that are

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Speaker 1: making life a misery for every family and business in California.

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Speaker 1: That's actually often I get asked the question, well, what

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Speaker 1: can you actually do, Steve? Even if you win, and

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Speaker 1: we believe that you can win, and that's great, but

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Speaker 1: what can you do because you've got the Democrat supermaturity,

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Speaker 1: what are you actually going to do about that? Well,

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Speaker 1: first of all, I'd expect them to work with me

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Speaker 1: to get done the agenda items that I ran on

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Speaker 1: that people voted for. But even without the legislature, you

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Speaker 1: just take the water issue right the State Water Resources

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Speaker 1: Control ford to make to increase water deliveries to our

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Speaker 1: farmers listening right now, and all their foundlies and all

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Speaker 1: the communities that depend on our farmers and our egg industry.

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Speaker 1: We've got to delete the Biden era biologic assessments that's

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Speaker 1: coming out of the State Water Board. So you've got

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Speaker 1: to put people in there who will get rid of

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Speaker 1: the insane environmental extremism that prioritizes those other uses instead

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Speaker 1: of ag uses, And that's down to the people. I

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Speaker 1: am point so across and that you can you can

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Speaker 1: apply that to hundreds of these agencies, the State Board

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Speaker 1: which is driving all the climate insanity that's making our

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Speaker 1: gas and electric bills the highest, et cetera. So you're

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Speaker 1: art to see names of individuals that I will be

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Speaker 1: appointing and nominating for these positions because I want to

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Speaker 1: be really clear with people that this is a serious

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Speaker 1: effort to turn our state around. I'm doing this in

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Speaker 1: deadly earnest. I'm preparing to be the governor, including with

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Speaker 1: the team that I'll take in there to Sacramento to

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Speaker 1: make the changes we need to make.

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Speaker 2: Has Gloria been running around the state with you since

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Speaker 2: the lafestime?

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Speaker 1: We spoke, Yeah, we did an event. We did our

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Speaker 1: very first town hall together. Actually, we've started a statewide

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Speaker 1: the very first one was in Pasadena on Friday, and

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Speaker 1: Gloria joined me there. She's based in La. LA's huge,

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Speaker 1: big county. She's going to be focused on southern California

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Speaker 1: because that's where she can you know, I'll be travling

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Speaker 1: the whole state and she's going to be really for there.

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Speaker 1: But yes, she's on the road the whole time and

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Speaker 1: will be even more so. We've done media appearances together.

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Speaker 1: She's going to be very visible as part of this campaign.

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Speaker 2: How's a polling looking.

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Speaker 1: There's been no new polls since the beginning of the year.

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Speaker 1: The last ones at the end of the year had

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Speaker 1: me leading, but you know, only just I don't want

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Speaker 1: to overstate it, right, right, right, The correct way to

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Speaker 1: state it is that that I'm leading but not yet winning.

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Speaker 1: That You've got a bunch of us, frankly, who are

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Speaker 1: pretty close in the polling, depending which polling organization you

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Speaker 1: look at, and that would include myself, Eric Swolwell, Katie Porter,

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Speaker 1: the other Republican running. You know, we're all kind of

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Speaker 1: bunched in the same sort of area. So I think

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Speaker 1: that my goal in the next few months is to

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Speaker 1: pull ahead. So I'm clearly the dominant Republican. We've certainly

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Speaker 1: done that. On fundraising, we're way ahead on fund raising

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Speaker 1: ahead of all the candidates, and I want to get

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Speaker 1: to a point where that's true in polling as well,

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Speaker 1: so that it's very clear who's the candidate win to

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Speaker 1: get behind to take the fight to the Democrats in

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Speaker 1: the general election in November.

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Speaker 2: I love it. Uh, got a call here from Neil

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Speaker 2: wants to talk about ag labor relations. Neil, it's all yours.

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Speaker 2: What you're going to do with it?

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Speaker 1: Hi, Hey, glad to talk to you.

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Speaker 3: Ray and Steve. I love your momentum. I love the

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Speaker 3: energy that you have. The one question I really have

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Speaker 3: not heard much about is the ag Labor Relations Board.

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Speaker 3: They have just had almost total control of what farmers

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Speaker 3: do with unions and really handcuffing them with what they're doing,

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Speaker 3: and water is a big issue.

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Speaker 1: Thought was this what?

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Speaker 3: And I believe that the al RB the members are appointed.

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Speaker 3: Is there something you could do to get rid of

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Speaker 3: them or totally just totally get rid of the Alarb's

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Speaker 3: that you.

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Speaker 1: Put it perfectly, that's it. First of all, you're right,

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Speaker 1: and I hear that a lot. So as you know,

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Speaker 1: I've been in the valley a lot, and not just

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Speaker 1: in the valley areas, but also you know, Ventura County

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Speaker 1: and down in selena' Selena's Monterey County and Imperial. You know,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of great egg obviously, the central values

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Speaker 1: it all the time. It's also the labor issues. For example,

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Speaker 1: the ridiculous over time situation. Now you can't do the

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Speaker 1: sixty hour overtime has to be forty. That doesn't work

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Speaker 1: for the reality of how farming works, where you've got

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Speaker 1: to pick the produces in the fields. You can't just

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Speaker 1: have some arbitrary measure on it, et cetera. So I'm

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Speaker 1: very familiar with all of those issues and more, and

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Speaker 1: yes I will, and you put it perfectly, where possible

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Speaker 1: get rid of these organizations. We've got way too much

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Speaker 1: bureaucracy in California. So that is going to be how

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at that, And in fact, i'll be announcing

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Speaker 1: next week a process for evaluating all of that in

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Speaker 1: terms of which are the agencies we would get rid

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Speaker 1: of if we can, and if we can't, who do

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Speaker 1: we appoint. But you can be absolutely certain that for

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Speaker 1: all the relevant agencies, the pest, the sideboard, the water board,

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Speaker 1: the lay ag, labor Relations Board. I will be kicking

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Speaker 1: out the climate fanatics, the social justice warriors, the kind

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Speaker 1: of bureau box picking bureaucrats and putting in there pro

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Speaker 1: ag pro industry people because it's been all one waist

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Speaker 1: treat for the last I don't know however long, certainly

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Speaker 1: sixteen years of these Democrats being in charge where it's

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Speaker 1: all pushing their agenda and it's been anti ag We

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Speaker 1: all know that it's it's no take any account of

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Speaker 1: the reality of what it's like to farm these days

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Speaker 1: and how competitive it is with our countries and other states.

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Speaker 1: So we're going to have a revolution when it comes

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Speaker 1: to those agencies. That is for sure.

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Speaker 2: Very interesting Steve Hilton, of course with us, Steve, I

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Speaker 2: was telling the audience this in the last hour before

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Speaker 2: you jumped on. And it's a question that I've asked

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Speaker 2: a million times, and you have to forgive the the

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Speaker 2: you know, over and over and over again. With this one,

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Speaker 2: you win, You become governor. A couple of your people,

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Speaker 2: if not all of them are joining your team. How

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Speaker 2: do you get around the huge I'm out of Democrats

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Speaker 2: you know that occupy the Assembly, in the Senate and Sacramento.

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Speaker 2: I'm getting this yeah, from people all the freaking time.

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Speaker 2: It's finally sunk in that you've got a decent shot.

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Speaker 2: So every time I go to my my email, or

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Speaker 2: I go to my messages on Facebook, there it is

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Speaker 2: the same old question. So answer it.

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Speaker 1: Really important question. Oh yeah, the most important question for sure.

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Speaker 1: So here's the thing. There's a number of layers to it.

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Speaker 1: Number one, remember that this supermajority that they have is

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Speaker 1: an illegitimate supermaturity. It is the product of jerrymandering. So

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Speaker 1: I don't have some huge respect that this is the

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Speaker 1: will of the people and must be on the no

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Speaker 1: the superman. They have more than two thirds of the

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Speaker 1: seats in the legislature, they have two. They've never had

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Speaker 1: two thirds of the vote in California. That's the first point. Secondly,

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Speaker 1: something about it this year. So we are going to

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Speaker 1: fight very hard. I've been talking to Carl Deamayo about that,

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Speaker 1: David Tangibart about that. Who of course, people will know

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Speaker 1: so well from your show and elsewhere in the valley

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Speaker 1: that we're going to try and break the supermajority this

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Speaker 1: time around. That's a real stretch I'm going to be honest,

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Speaker 1: but it's not impossible if we have good candidates, and

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Speaker 1: I'll be out there supporting them. It's actually part of

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Speaker 1: my team approach, which is it's not just the other

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Speaker 1: statewide candidates, it's actually electing Republicans everywhere, in particular the legislature,

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Speaker 1: because I'm going to need Republicans to be there with

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Speaker 1: me to fight the machine that we've got in Sacramento

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Speaker 2: Okay, if if we were to look down the road

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Speaker 2: All right, I got to let you go. We will

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Speaker 2: Let us know who you know, any of your up

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Speaker 1: Oh, thank you, Ray, just for kicks.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Steve Hilton for Governor dot com

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Speaker 2: And spend some money.

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Speaker 2: Steve Hilton. On came Jay sing is going well. A

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