WEBVTT - John Lund on his new KNBR show: "Fair and Biased"

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's go to the UMA guest line for

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<v Speaker 1>our first guest today, John Lund, who is a former

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<v Speaker 1>KMBR host.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a good friend.

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<v Speaker 1>And he is the future as in Monday host from

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<v Speaker 1>ten to two on the Sports Leader, and he's with us.

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<v Speaker 2>Johnny, how are you?

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<v Speaker 3>It was great to hear your voice.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just listening to you and I'm driving, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>driving up to the Bay and I could not be

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<v Speaker 3>more excited. But for those, you know, with the elephant

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<v Speaker 3>in the room, for those who want more, if you

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<v Speaker 3>just hit me up at John Lund Radio. I wrote

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<v Speaker 3>a piece this morning, a national piece this morning because

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<v Speaker 3>and I listened to you at the beginning of the show,

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<v Speaker 3>because I want to get into sports and have fun

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<v Speaker 3>with you and everything else. And then Monday I'll fill

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<v Speaker 3>in all the blanks and if people have questions and comments,

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<v Speaker 3>that's fine. I have no issue with that. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I know people ain't change. I mean, November twenty four,

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<v Speaker 3>I left, Tom left at the same time. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it's the way that our industry is. But I don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to spend the whole conversation with you doing that

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<v Speaker 3>because I know that you've had to deal with it

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<v Speaker 3>but if people just want to go to my twitter

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<v Speaker 3>at John Lund Radio. I wrote a full piece on

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<v Speaker 3>it today and it explains a lot. And then on

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<v Speaker 3>Monday we'll further discuss it, and then we'll get on

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<v Speaker 3>to what we like to do, which is have fun,

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<v Speaker 3>have laughs, talk sports, and hang out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know you're a pro. You know I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a pro.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been working together for years and I'm so excited

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<v Speaker 1>for your opportunity here. And obviously you know the circumstances

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Are are what they are.

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<v Speaker 1>As you said, it's a it's a tough biz. But

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's not dwell on that. I mean, the people

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<v Speaker 1>driving around today on a Friday, you know, care more

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<v Speaker 1>about the giants and Niners, lawyers and sports than our

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<v Speaker 1>drama or radio drama or even radio upheaval. I'll just

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<v Speaker 1>say this though, Bro, I know you're gonna do a

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<v Speaker 1>great job. I know you're gonna put on a terrific show.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was always a pleasure working with you because

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<v Speaker 1>you are so prepared and you are, you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>fantastic host. We work together on kmb are, we work

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<v Speaker 1>together at at ESPN Radio, and and you're gonna do.

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<v Speaker 2>A fantastic job.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk some sports though, give me your your thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>on you know, we can take this in any direction.

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<v Speaker 2>We got.

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<v Speaker 1>We got a lot of things going on. We got

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL started last night. We got the Niners in

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<v Speaker 1>training camp. Joint practice with with the Titans is around

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<v Speaker 1>the corner. We got Giants baseball, Giants and Tigers go

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend. We got the Wall of Fame, a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of guys going into the Wall of Fame in the

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<v Speaker 1>ceremony on Saturday before the game. I'm bringing the whole crew,

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<v Speaker 1>Johnny out to the game Saturday night. I'm doing the

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<v Speaker 1>deep dive, bringing everybody, no no expenses spared.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be on the club level. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Russ Stanley and uh you know, four Crisp hundred dollar

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<v Speaker 1>bills will make it happen.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'll.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be there with the family because I can't get

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<v Speaker 1>an I can't get enough of this underachieving product now.

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<v Speaker 2>But but give me, give me your thoughts on on.

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<v Speaker 1>The Giants and the season they've had because we've seen.

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<v Speaker 2>Them together, we've seen them win.

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<v Speaker 1>We're championships and Buster you put this thing together with

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of hopes and it kind of fell apart.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, they remind me a lot of say

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<v Speaker 3>the Padres, and I know the Padres are getting it

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<v Speaker 3>together and they have a vassi different record, but if

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<v Speaker 3>you just look at the talent, I think that's what's

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<v Speaker 3>most frustrating for Giants fans. You know, when you're in

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<v Speaker 3>a rebuild. You and I have joked about this before.

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<v Speaker 3>You know about Giant slogans and things like that and

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<v Speaker 3>what they should be this year. You know, when you're

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<v Speaker 3>going into a rebuild, and as a fan, what you

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<v Speaker 3>do is you mentally prepare for those kind of things. Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 3>what's my season gonna be. Okay, it's gonna be about

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<v Speaker 3>player development, and it's gonna be about having fun, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's gonna be. Well, you go into a season like

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<v Speaker 3>this and you look at the left side of the infield,

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<v Speaker 3>guys like Chapman and a Damis, and you know, you

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<v Speaker 3>look at what Bryce Eldridge is and you hope that

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<v Speaker 3>Devers could be kind of settled in a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>and all the they're paying a lot of money for

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<v Speaker 3>these guys, is my point, And it's not this is

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<v Speaker 3>not a rebuild. This is not a bunch of young guys,

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<v Speaker 3>or at least it wasn't at the beginning of the year.

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<v Speaker 3>It should have been a team that competed. If I

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<v Speaker 3>look at teams like Arizona, the Padres who have had

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<v Speaker 3>trouble scoring runs, just like the players that they have,

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<v Speaker 3>the Giants should not be where they are. And so

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<v Speaker 3>that's where I understand the vitriol and where it's gone

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<v Speaker 3>from Buster who's beloved, to now you know, it's almost

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<v Speaker 3>like it's a different guy. You got busted the player

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<v Speaker 3>that you love, and you even got bust to the

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<v Speaker 3>executive who's not getting a gun, or or you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Tony Vittello in his first year. And I was actually

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<v Speaker 3>talking to somebody that's pretty dialed in with the Giants

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<v Speaker 3>yesterday and they just shook their head. I don't you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how much you guys have talked about

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<v Speaker 3>one and done, and I know organizations don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>do that, but it's been that bad, as everybody knows.

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<v Speaker 3>But my whole point is is that it's I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's extra frustrating, and I'm speaking for the fans, so

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<v Speaker 3>who knows. Maybe I'm stupid and don't know, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>just it's not frustrating when you have this kind of

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<v Speaker 3>talent on the team and you're going, what's going on.

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<v Speaker 3>We're not supposed to be down there with the Rockies.

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<v Speaker 3>We're at least supposed to be competing that. Okay, you're

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<v Speaker 3>not going to catch the Dodgers, nobody in the division is.

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<v Speaker 3>I get it, and I understand why we're gonna have

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<v Speaker 3>a lockout as long as we are. But to say

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<v Speaker 3>that the Giants are just not competing in that range

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<v Speaker 3>of you know, eighty five to ninety wins of what

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<v Speaker 3>it takes to get a wild card, that's just not acceptable.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, it isn't. I mean, And it's like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to know what to point to. Okay, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>couple factors. Okay, they're the lowest scoring team in the division,

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<v Speaker 1>but far and away by a wide margin.

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<v Speaker 2>Then I looked it up.

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<v Speaker 1>They're ten and twenty in one run games, so they're

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<v Speaker 1>the worst record in all of baseball. And then they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're not doing it on the margins, Like they don't walk,

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<v Speaker 1>but they walk guys. They don't strike out a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of guys, but they strike out a lot as hitters.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't steal bases.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't hit home runs at home at night, So

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you got I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, do you blame Buster? Do you blame Tony?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we really could open up the lines and

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<v Speaker 1>be like eight away camb Are the Giants are forty

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<v Speaker 1>eight eighty seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Who do you well? The blame game? But also who

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<v Speaker 2>do you trust?

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<v Speaker 1>Like, like, there are some Giants fans walking around going,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, they've been awful this year, But I

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<v Speaker 1>trust Buster. And then I've actually heard people go, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, I really like Tony. I really trust that

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<v Speaker 1>Tony's a good baseball guy. But it's hard to have

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<v Speaker 1>any trust when you're so bad on the margins. You're

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<v Speaker 1>not better. Melvin got more out of less last year

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<v Speaker 1>than Tony's getting out of this team this year, in

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion. And you're bad in one run games. You're

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<v Speaker 1>the worst one run You know why you keep losing

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<v Speaker 1>all these one run games?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it tied to your pen? Is it tied to

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<v Speaker 2>your lame offense? Is it tied to.

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<v Speaker 1>Tony and the decisions he's making. Is it the margins?

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<v Speaker 1>They're not they're not fast enough, they don't steal walk.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know. I mean, I'm all ears man,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the Jacks are undecided.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way.

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<v Speaker 3>I hate to say this. I hate to say this

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<v Speaker 3>because all the talking hit shows on the ESPN, would

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<v Speaker 3>you know, blow their tops if you said this. But

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's a combination of everything. It's not just one thing. Look,

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<v Speaker 3>Buster has got a lot of work to do in

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<v Speaker 3>the offseason. He's got to unload some call. This isn't

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<v Speaker 3>the Dodgers, and this is why we're gonna have a

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<v Speaker 3>long walkout. Sorry to bring this up. It's a Friday,

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<v Speaker 3>it's beautiful. But the problem is is that Dodgers can

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<v Speaker 3>have The Dodgers can make all these mistakes. Like I understand,

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<v Speaker 3>but if you're not following the Dodgers statistically, Mookie Betts

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<v Speaker 3>is thirty three and having a horrible year, and they

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<v Speaker 3>got six more years of that. Blake saw doing exactly

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<v Speaker 3>what he did with the Giants. He's not healthy. Tyler

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<v Speaker 3>Glass now does what he does, He's not healthy. Will

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<v Speaker 3>Smith as eight more years left on his deal. He's

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<v Speaker 3>got six home runs at Kyle Tucker has been an abomination.

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<v Speaker 3>So they've got five horrible contracts, just those five I

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<v Speaker 3>just mentioned that are higher than the Giants payroll. Just

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<v Speaker 3>those five and those five contracts, most teams would be

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<v Speaker 3>just there's no way. They just they couldn't do business.

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<v Speaker 3>And where they close shop, they'd be out of business.

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<v Speaker 3>That Dodgers can go out and get Tarrek Scuoble and

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<v Speaker 3>talk about signing him to a contract extension when they

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<v Speaker 3>have five contracts that I just mentioned that are basically

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<v Speaker 3>an albatross around their neck. If the Giants did that,

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<v Speaker 3>there's no way they could maybe do one or two

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<v Speaker 3>bad contracts and still kind of, you know, do business.

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<v Speaker 3>So what Buster is gonna have to do in the offseason.

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<v Speaker 3>Something's got to get unloaded. Chapman's got to you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's either got to be Chapman or a Damas or

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<v Speaker 3>Devers or you know, some of these contracts gotta go.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got to find a way so that they can

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<v Speaker 3>resume business. And that's the biggest problem. Same thing with

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<v Speaker 3>the Patres. They got four or five bad contracts. If

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<v Speaker 3>you look at our look at the division, those two teams,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, looking at the Giants and the Padreas have

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<v Speaker 3>terrible contracts and they can't really do business as much. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>look I understand what the Padres did at the deadline.

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<v Speaker 3>They picked up two pitchers that have expiring contracts and

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<v Speaker 3>probably won't come back because that's how a j preler is.

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<v Speaker 3>But they didn't commit money to the future because they can.

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<v Speaker 3>The Dodgers are going to grab Schooball and they're going

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<v Speaker 3>to resign him, and they've got all these contracts, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's why we're going to be sitting around a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>Because the first loophole they got to close is obviously

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<v Speaker 3>the one where you can put players on a credit card.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's the biggest problem is for the Giants to

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<v Speaker 3>be competitive again, Buster's got to move contracts in order

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<v Speaker 3>to add contracts that he thinks can contribute to the team.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm not sure you can do that in one offseason.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a hell of a point.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when the Dodgers deferred all that money for Otani,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh my god, they're going to do this now.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that is not you know, nobody's doing that,

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<v Speaker 1>and that gives them another upper hand.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's that deal.

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<v Speaker 1>It was very fable, and it also allowed them to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of circumvent the entire structure of the of the

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<v Speaker 1>know the balance of power in the game.

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<v Speaker 2>So Johnny, it's gonna be great having you back. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I know the circumstances are a little funky, but we

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<v Speaker 1>love you, brother.

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<v Speaker 2>We know you're gonna kick butt.

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<v Speaker 1>If you ever need a Niner guest from Santa Clara,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you've got my digits. And enjoy the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of your weekend. Enjoy safe driving, and say hi to

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<v Speaker 1>George and the family, and we'll see up here and

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<v Speaker 1>and good luck to you, bro. You know we're we're

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<v Speaker 1>big believers in you and your talent and you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>kick butt and we're.

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<v Speaker 3>Very uh I'm looking forward to it, eager to hear it.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, thanks thanks for having me. I can't tell you

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<v Speaker 3>how excited am I understand the circumstances Again. Go to

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<v Speaker 3>my Twitter page at John Lundradio. I wrote a national

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<v Speaker 3>piece today explaining everything, So give that a look. And

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<v Speaker 3>then we're gonna get together with everybody. We're gonna have

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<v Speaker 3>a great time starting on Monday. Thanks for