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Speaker 1: Of the giants, Richie, what's going on, man? How are

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Speaker 2: I'm good, guys. Are Can I start by asking you

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Speaker 1: For sure? Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I was listening earlier in the week while I was

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Speaker 2: I just want to know and if you know, I

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Speaker 2: don't even know if you have an answer. How how

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Speaker 2: was that that one dude who shocked the guy in

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Speaker 2: the car? How is he a corn hoole champion if

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Speaker 2: he didn't have any arms and legs?

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Speaker 1: Dude? Okay, So Richard's incredible, That's what it is. When

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Speaker 1: I saw the headline, that's that's really what my eye

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Speaker 1: was like, Dude, this headline is like, you know, it

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Speaker 1: had all the facts and you didn't have to. It's

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Speaker 1: like cornhold us cornhold champion, quad amputee accused of murder.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, this is like I have a

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Speaker 1: I really did. Uh he They're like ESPN did like

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Speaker 1: an E sixty, you know, like one of those like yeah,

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Speaker 1: you get Jeremy out there and like and he's he's

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Speaker 1: a quad amputee, like a chap's talking about him. They

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Speaker 1: did a whole thing on him, and he like he

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Speaker 1: does use prosthetics like when he walks, but he uses

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Speaker 1: I've seen video of him. He uses both of because

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Speaker 1: like I guess he tosses the bean bag with both

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Speaker 1: tosses it. When I was tripping about Rich, I was like, dude,

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Speaker 1: it's wild to me because it's not like it's an

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Speaker 1: like he's he's beating guys with hands, Like if I

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Speaker 3: But the best part Rich is like he was driving

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Speaker 3: the car in which he murdered the guys, two peers,

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Speaker 1: Run away from him. It's like, how come they couldn't drive?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't. Well, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: We don't have to go the updates everything. Also, He's

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Speaker 1: just it's it's only you know. Yeah, we'll update you

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Speaker 1: There's a motive now too. They found his extual girlfriend.

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Speaker 1: His girlfriend said, I didn't think he'd ever do anything

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Speaker 1: like this, but quote, I'm not surprised. We're like, geeze,

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Speaker 2: Rich so well, the story kept me uh no, friend,

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Speaker 1: Thank you well, dude. It was such a slow different ESPN.

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Speaker 1: It was like one of their headline stories too, because

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Speaker 1: ESPN's running with this so tough story. Yeah, well, now

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Speaker 1: we got baseball to talk about. Seven game home stand

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Speaker 1: did not. But I think we've seen some signs of

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Speaker 3: Talking to Rich Arelia on the UMA guest line, Rich,

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw what Matt Chatman mout

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Speaker 2: No, I think that, you know, I think we saw

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Speaker 3: we were all puzzled by Tony Vaitello's lineup on Monday,

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Speaker 1: It's effectively the same line up. By the way the

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Speaker 2: You know, you always want your manager to find the

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Speaker 1: Rich Earl is a part of nbc Sportspinnerness pre and

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Speaker 1: on turty Work, Richie. Great catching up man, and dude,

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Speaker 1: we'll keep you upbreast of any news around the quad,

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Speaker 2: Dude, I'll be listening. If I'm in town, I'm listening.

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Speaker 2: I'll be on waiting for the news.

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Speaker 1: All right, appreciate your rich We'll here man.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for