Speaker 1: Let's get back to Dirty Work with Copes and d
Speaker 1: Pop live from fifty eight Social at Oracle Park before
Speaker 1: Tonight's Giants game. On The Sports Leader.
Speaker 2: How's it going Dirty Work on a Friday?
Speaker 3: John Dickts and Derek Papa Here at the patio fifty
Speaker 3: eight Social. Giants and Rockies Tonight will be joined by
Speaker 3: Marcus Thompson in about twelve minutes talking about the Warriors
Speaker 3: off season, his article on Don Nelson and uh.
Speaker 4: Need more time with Marcus.
Speaker 5: We do need more time with Marcus. We do already.
Speaker 5: We adn't even on yet. We need more time.
Speaker 2: I know, well you should have caledon, didn't should have
Speaker 2: answered the phono.
Speaker 4: Three foot We're going anymore? We get it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: we'll be fine.
Speaker 3: We'll be But I do want to talk schedules with you,
Speaker 3: because you're a schedule guide.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, you know what I'll say, this schedule nerd
Speaker 4: is actually.
Speaker 3: I love a good schedule. I love more in NFL schedule.
Speaker 3: I love a schedule release.
Speaker 4: It is a little different though. I mean with the NBA,
Speaker 4: of course it is.
Speaker 3: We're talking about any two games and like yesterday I
Speaker 3: saw the Warriors put out some cartoon with Draymond and
Speaker 3: Jimmy Butler and Steph Curry for their schedule release video.
Speaker 2: It's like Scooby Doo themes.
Speaker 4: And I was like, what is this? Did you see
Speaker 4: the Bulls one? I did not.
Speaker 5: The Bulls One's good. I would agree, it's with Benny
Speaker 5: the Bull. Okay, the mascot.
Speaker 3: Okay, we think it's kind of ridiculous that the NBA
Speaker 3: is trying to be like, we got our own schedule release.
Speaker 5: Yes it is, but the Bulls one was good. Okay,
Speaker 5: well check it out. What what was.
Speaker 4: Funny about just the Bull was? It's just Benny the
Speaker 4: bulls hilarious?
Speaker 5: Okay, fair enough, Okay, Like that's number one, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: And I go way back with Benny back, I mean
Speaker 5: back to twenty sixteen.
Speaker 4: You guys are boys, Yeah.
Speaker 5: We're yeah, multiple yeah, I mean he's he's dumped popcorn
Speaker 5: on me, and like, like, we go way back, So
Speaker 5: I am a little biased. Yeah, Benny the Bull, but
Speaker 5: I mean dumps popcorn and everybody but right, but I
Speaker 5: did happen to get popcorn dumped on me in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2: That's I praise nice.
Speaker 3: Well when it comes to the time ago, when when
Speaker 3: the Warriors. When it comes to the Warriors schedule, looks
Speaker 3: at the Nasaly televised games, and of course with how
Speaker 3: old they are back to backs.
Speaker 5: You know what I look at first and foremost, what's that?
Speaker 5: Where are the three and fours?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Where are the back to backs? We're the three and
Speaker 4: fourth exactly.
Speaker 5: And the first thing that stands out Derek. Game three
Speaker 5: of the season, they start in La. They've got the
Speaker 5: exact same most similar layout as last year. They start
Speaker 5: Wednesday in La October twenty first. They have an off
Speaker 5: day Thursday. Their home Friday home opener on the twenty third,
Speaker 5: which is a year from when we had the roundtable
Speaker 5: out at at Harmonic Brewing just down the street here,
Speaker 5: and so everything is a year a year to the day, right.
Speaker 5: The opener last year was on Tuesday the twenty first.
Speaker 5: This year it's Wednesday, the twenty first. Last year, the
Speaker 5: home opener was Thursday to twenty third. This year the
Speaker 5: home openers Friday to twenty third. So, and then they
Speaker 5: went up to Portland for the third game of the year,
Speaker 5: which was Friday the twenty fourth.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the day after.
Speaker 2: A Baraja three pointers from the Portland Trailblazers then made and.
Speaker 5: I don't know if you were, Mads, but even though
Speaker 5: it was the third game of the year, and even
Speaker 5: though the Warriors were two and oh, going down to
Speaker 5: La and winning and then coming back home and coming
Speaker 5: back and beating the Nuggets, and the home opener on
Speaker 5: our roundtable night where we were out at Harmonic, even
Speaker 5: though they were two and oh, Steve Kerr played the
Speaker 5: regulars in Portland. Warriors got smoked, They got completely ran
Speaker 5: out of Moda Center. And Steve Kerr after the game
Speaker 5: and I did dubbs ot from up there on that night,
Speaker 5: and Steve Cerr after the game said, yeah, I regret
Speaker 5: not giving the veteran guys.
Speaker 4: The night off.
Speaker 5: It was game three, Game three, but it was the
Speaker 5: third game in four nights. So anywhere there's three games
Speaker 5: in four nights, I feel like that's an automatic punt.
Speaker 5: Considering the fact that the Warriors basically have the exact
Speaker 5: same roster they had last year. Oh, by the way,
Speaker 5: Jimmy Butler, Moses Moody, you're not going to be round
Speaker 5: for probably at least half of the season. So long
Speaker 5: story short, Game three of the season this year at Phoenix,
Speaker 5: third game in four knights, that's punt. Oh, by the way,
Speaker 5: then you go play Denver in Minnesota, you start at
Speaker 5: the Lakers. This team better win the home opener against Memphis.
Speaker 5: They might be one and four even with that win,
Speaker 5: even with Steph Curry healthy and available. So much for
Speaker 5: the schedule, gouds doing the Warriors any favors, not that
Speaker 5: they're owed, but if you recall, that was a huge
Speaker 5: part of the story last year, and my goodness that
Speaker 5: the beginning I mean at LA Memphis, at Phoenix, three
Speaker 5: games and four nights at Denver, at Minnesota before they
Speaker 5: come home for a six game Homestand I mean, what's
Speaker 5: their record in the first five games of the year,
Speaker 5: One and four objectively speaking, right, that could be unless
Speaker 5: they pull a rabbit out of the hat somewhere.
Speaker 4: They're one and four five games in.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But I you know, I thought Steve Carer brought that
Speaker 3: up a little bit too much last year, where it's like,
Speaker 3: the schedule's tough.
Speaker 2: Well, well, yeah, of course it is.
Speaker 4: You're the Warriors.
Speaker 5: They did, but it's gonna be tough this year too. Yeah,
Speaker 5: So I don't think him bringing it up or not
Speaker 5: bringing it up matters.
Speaker 4: It doesn't.
Speaker 2: But also it's just the situation they're in.
Speaker 4: They're the Warriors.
Speaker 3: And also what do you make of them having less
Speaker 3: nationally televised games like that comes with the territory of
Speaker 3: them natural. Yeah, like they're an older team right now,
Speaker 3: people still want to see Steph. They got twenty eight,
Speaker 3: but that's less than what they had in recent years.
Speaker 5: Now they do have the four or five on the
Speaker 5: road to begin the year and then they come home
Speaker 5: for six. You talk about the nationally televised games, I
Speaker 5: thought the league still gave them a decent amount if
Speaker 5: you were in the first half of the season. Obviously,
Speaker 5: because they're expecting and hoping, the league is hoping that
Speaker 5: Jimmy Butler comes back. And I put the middle of
Speaker 5: the year middle of January roughly. I mean, I'm looking
Speaker 5: at the forty first game.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 5: Look, there's two games that are going to get rescheduled
Speaker 5: in December. So the forty first game right now is
Speaker 5: not actually going to be the forty first game. What's
Speaker 5: it's actually the forty first game is actually going to
Speaker 5: be the Sacramento game on right on January twelfth, even
Speaker 5: though right now that's the thirty ninth game. But if
Speaker 5: you count that as the first half and then move forward.
Speaker 5: I mean they're counting, or at least the league is
Speaker 5: hoping that Jimmy Butler and Steph at a minimum are
Speaker 5: back and playing together.
Speaker 4: And that's when you get another.
Speaker 5: Laker game at Okasee, a couple of San Antonios of
Speaker 5: Boston and New York, the night before the Super Bowl
Speaker 5: at Madison Square Garden Cooper Flag and Dallas, Houston, Portland, Denver.
Speaker 5: The Lakers again, two games against Philly because you got
Speaker 5: to get Steph and Lebron a week apart, but the
Speaker 5: last week of March because you really really want to
Speaker 5: make sure Stefan and Jimmy are healthy for that one.
Speaker 5: And then Minnesota Phoenix OKAC to close things out toward
Speaker 5: the back half of the year. So I saw a
Speaker 5: lot of complaining about the early part of the schedule.
Speaker 5: I also saw a lot of complaining about the second
Speaker 5: half of the schedule. I knew the second half of
Speaker 5: the schedule was going to be more difficult because those
Speaker 5: are the games where they want to put Steph on
Speaker 5: national television, hoping that Jimmy Butler's going to be a
Speaker 5: part of the equation.
Speaker 3: I mean, the biggest thing to me is that they
Speaker 3: are tied for the most back to backs with fifteen,
Speaker 3: and you have a older roster where Al Horford and
Speaker 3: Porzingis and a lot of these and Stephen Draymond may
Speaker 3: not play in these games. So it's Yaxel in the gang. Like,
Speaker 3: I just don't know how anything's going to change.
Speaker 4: But and again it starts. The third game of the
Speaker 4: year is going to be a punt.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like I can tell you right now on August
Speaker 5: fourteenth that the Warriors could go play a hell of
Speaker 5: a game against the Lakers in the opener and let's
Speaker 5: say lose close and then beat Memphis and be one
Speaker 5: and one, going to Phoenix second of a back to
Speaker 5: back three and four, and they're punting. Yeah, like that
Speaker 5: Steph ain't playing that night. Draymond ain't playing that night.
Speaker 5: Horford or Perzingis or both ain't playing that night. Melton's
Speaker 5: probably not playing that night. I mean they Yeah, it's
Speaker 5: Yaxel and will Richard Pods. I mean in Phoenix, which
Speaker 5: is a team that knocked your ass out going back
Speaker 5: to April to get that final playing spot in the
Speaker 5: eight seed, and then you and then after the game
Speaker 5: against a lesser opponent, in comparison Phoenix compared to Denver
Speaker 5: in Minnesota. Then you go to Denver in Minnesota to
Speaker 5: boot before you come home and play the Lakers. I mean,
Speaker 5: one in five is on the table here. And this
Speaker 5: is with everybody healthy among you know, not accounting for
Speaker 5: obviously Jimmy Butler and Moses Moody.
Speaker 4: So yeah, then you.
Speaker 5: Get some home then you get some home cooking. There's
Speaker 5: there's a winnable trip in the middle of November. You
Speaker 5: get the usual home games coming out of the first
Speaker 5: of the year, which I think, again, what you're gonna
Speaker 5: hear a lot from the Warriors. You're gonna hear a
Speaker 5: lot from the Warriors. Is gonna be a second half team,
Speaker 5: gonna get be a secondf team, gonna be.
Speaker 4: Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 5: If you're fifteen and twenty five in the first forty games,
Speaker 5: then it ain't gonna matter that you're a second half team.
Speaker 5: You're gonna be praying that you could be in the
Speaker 5: conversation to be the freaking ten seed.
Speaker 3: Now, yeah, I'm not really high on I mean anything
Speaker 3: with this team. I mean, yes, they'll still be the
Speaker 3: same team that we saw a year ago fighting for
Speaker 3: the ninth seed of the ten seed.
Speaker 2: The schedule wasn't making it any better.
Speaker 3: But just as we talking about earlier with George Kittle
Speaker 3: and you know, playing doctor on the radio, you said,
Speaker 3: there's more nationally televised game in the second half, and
Speaker 3: that maybe because that's when they're anticipating Jimmy Butler's gonna return.
Speaker 3: What do you think, like, what do you expect with
Speaker 3: the big injuries Jimmy Butler amoses movie this year?
Speaker 5: I put it right in the middle of the year
Speaker 5: for both of them, as as it might be, I
Speaker 5: don't know that it's.
Speaker 4: Gonna be sooner than the middle of the year for
Speaker 4: either of them. And again I'm set in the middle.
Speaker 5: The middle of the year is basically the one year
Speaker 5: mark for Jimmy right if you look at it, January
Speaker 5: the twelfth, right now, will will be the warriors forty
Speaker 5: first game. Again, it's listed as their thirty ninth game
Speaker 5: right now, but they're gonna add to in December because
Speaker 5: of the d season tournament. So the middle point of
Speaker 5: the season is January twelfth. I think it's right around there.
Speaker 5: And he got hurt what on the nineteenth, I believe
Speaker 5: it was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's an older player, and I just don't know.
Speaker 5: I mean, I think Moody will see I mean, I
Speaker 5: think there's a scenario where both could be out till
Speaker 5: after the All Star Break. I think there's a scenario
Speaker 5: where maybe one or both don't come back at all.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Moody was a Pateeller Tendon, right, Yeah.
Speaker 5: I also think there's a scenario where, you know, maybe
Speaker 5: they come back a little early, maybe Jimmy comes back
Speaker 5: a little early.
Speaker 4: But I don't know about this December thing.
Speaker 5: That felt to me like that felt to me like
Speaker 5: a leak that comes out when you're getting hit from
Speaker 5: a public relations standpoint by the fact that you missed
Speaker 5: out on Lebron and didn't really do anything else, and
Speaker 5: it's like, oh, Jimmy, give me back my Christmas? Right?
Speaker 5: Probably not, Yeah, I don't know if people should be
Speaker 5: too excited about that.
Speaker 3: Derek Papa John Diketson. Here, you're at fifty eight Social
Speaker 3: outside Oracle Park. Let's catch up with Marcus Thompson and
Speaker 3: talk about the Warriors schedule, what's going on with their
Speaker 3: off season, and the unfortunate passing of Don Nelson.
Speaker 4: He wrote about it.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about next on the Sports Leader.
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Speaker 3: Here on these Sports Leader John Dickinson, Derek Papa trying
Speaker 3: to make the connection with Marcus Thompson.
Speaker 4: We'll see if you do that. Here we get a
Speaker 4: five to fifty segment. We do have a five to fifty.
Speaker 4: Marcus is busy and he typically is.
Speaker 3: Knowing Marcus though he'll call mint segment of Billy, you
Speaker 3: guys don't want me anymore?
Speaker 4: And what's the deal?
Speaker 5: And I and that's where you say five point fifty bro, exactly,
Speaker 5: we got you, We got you. So I don't want
Speaker 5: to short change Marcus. No, I don't want to They
Speaker 5: like my Marcus time. You never know how much Marcus
Speaker 5: time you're actually gonna get.
Speaker 4: Exactly, So I do want to make some time. There's
Speaker 4: a lot of discuss with him.
Speaker 3: So we'll see when we catch up with him, and
Speaker 3: if he calls Danny, let me know and we'll figure
Speaker 3: out the plan. But yeah, I do want to get
Speaker 3: to this real quick. Just talking about the forty nine
Speaker 3: ers and preseason, and there was a lot of talk
Speaker 3: about Vita Veau maybe being a guy that could pick
Speaker 3: up where he's got contract negotiations going on right now.
Speaker 3: The Bucks don't want to make him one of the
Speaker 3: highest paid defensive tackles in all of football. But Mike
Speaker 3: Garrofolo was just on NFL Network talking about Vitavea, and
Speaker 3: we hear all the time teams say like, we're not.
Speaker 4: Trading this guy. We're not trading this guy. He went.
Speaker 3: He just went on NFL Network saying the Bucks do
Speaker 3: not plan on trading vita Vea. But teams have acquired
Speaker 3: the Buffalo Bills, the Chicago Bears, and the San Francisco
Speaker 3: forty nine ers.
Speaker 4: Not surprising, not surprising.
Speaker 3: I think that John Lynch always will inquire about a player.
Speaker 3: I would rather they say that draft capital, like let's
Speaker 3: just say, okay, Vitavea is on the table.
Speaker 4: I think he is.
Speaker 3: I think ultimately the Bucks will budge and they're gonna
Speaker 3: tr him because I think Jason Light views the Buccaneers as,
Speaker 3: all right, we're a good team, but are we gonna
Speaker 3: be one of the better teams in the NFC. I
Speaker 3: think we're more like the team that we know failed
Speaker 3: down the stretch when we started six and two and
Speaker 3: then we finished eight and nine. He doesn't want to
Speaker 3: give Baker Mayfield a contract. He doesn't want to give
Speaker 3: a contract to Vita Vea. You know, are we gonna
Speaker 3: have to win the NFC South or are we going
Speaker 3: to contend with the better teams the NFC. And it
Speaker 3: was telling when Mike Evans told him, yeah, thanks for
Speaker 3: the contract offer. It's better than the Niners, but I'd
Speaker 3: rather go here. So I think that he may listen
Speaker 3: to offers, and I won't be at the least bit
Speaker 3: surprised that the Niners are like, all right, we may
Speaker 3: give you a young defensive tackle in some draft capitol there.
Speaker 5: They're trying to slow play it. I think the Buccaneers
Speaker 5: are and not come off as desperate. I think you
Speaker 5: could make the case the Bucks are in semi shambles
Speaker 5: at this point. Like I think they're the team that
Speaker 5: thinks that they're still maybe gonna be good, but then
Speaker 5: the whole thing completely kareems off the mountain and you
Speaker 5: wind up six and eleven and everybody's not not not light,
Speaker 5: but Todd, you're a bulls is out and maybe you're
Speaker 5: looking at a quarterback change and yeah, and you're you're
Speaker 5: kind of in a semi rebuild off of a lot
Speaker 5: of veteran guys who have been there for a number
Speaker 5: of years. But yeah, I don't think Jason light would
Speaker 5: be in trouble necessary.
Speaker 4: Now it's one of the better gms and all football.
Speaker 5: But but it might be time to retool and looking
Speaker 5: to make the move on Vidavea would would give him
Speaker 5: an opportunity to more quickly start that process.
Speaker 4: Okay, but let me ask you this.
Speaker 3: Do you think the Niners possibly getting Max Crosby at
Speaker 3: the trade deadline is like a like a Warrior's Giannis
Speaker 3: pipe dream?
Speaker 4: No, you think it's realistic. I think it's realistic based.
Speaker 3: Off of where the Raiders are at or a new
Speaker 3: day in Raider football where they don't care trading him
Speaker 3: to the forty nine ers.
Speaker 5: It would have to be that. And and well, what's
Speaker 5: the one thing that would make that less of a thing?
Speaker 5: What do you mean, what's the one thing that would
Speaker 5: make the unwillingness to have the Raiders trade somebody to
Speaker 5: the Niners over the topitle? Yes, like what the asking price?
Speaker 5: Like you may have to give up a little bit more.
Speaker 5: But I think if the forty nine ers believe that
Speaker 5: they are in a position to where a Max Crosby
Speaker 5: can make them a legitimate Super Bowl contender or get
Speaker 5: them on the level of the Rams. And I think
Speaker 5: if this thing goes to the trade deadline, the forty
Speaker 5: nine ers are can have to prove that in season, right,
Speaker 5: They're gonna have to. And I think if the Niners
Speaker 5: prove that in season, then the front office would be
Speaker 5: more apt to give up more to get that done.
Speaker 5: So I think it's unlikely. I still am of the belief,
Speaker 5: and I think you are as well that the Raiders
Speaker 5: as much as it is Vegas in San Francisco, or
Speaker 5: Vegas in the Bay and not Oakland in the Bay
Speaker 5: and not La in the Bay or whatever, I do
Speaker 5: think some of those things have thoughed.
Speaker 4: I still don't think Mark Davis would.
Speaker 5: Be real keen on moving Max Crosby to the forty
Speaker 5: nine ers and essentially having it be a move that
Speaker 5: might lead to Max Crosby being a Super Bowl winner
Speaker 5: with the forty nine ers.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that would be a monumental move.
Speaker 4: Sweetened the pot. Well, that's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: Is I keep paring Max Proby's not getting del for
Speaker 3: two first round picks, and he is getting delt. I
Speaker 3: think so, Like I you know, people call me a
Speaker 3: Raider Homer still on this show. No, they're not gonna
Speaker 3: be a good team this year, Like yeah, yeah me yeah.
Speaker 3: But like when I've changed my way, Jad, I'm not.
Speaker 3: I'm not living in dying with every Raider outcome. I'd
Speaker 3: even watch the preseason game last night. But yeah, like
Speaker 3: I think they improved, but I don't think they're gonna
Speaker 3: be a good team. I think that they win maybe
Speaker 3: four or five games this year, and then yes they were.
Speaker 3: I mean they did trade Max Crosby to the Baltimore Ravens,
Speaker 3: and it took Eric Decostak and cold Feet to be
Speaker 3: like not take him back, And now Max Crosby's like
Speaker 3: I want to be a Raider again. We haven't heard
Speaker 3: a lot of John Spytech in the offseason saying like,
Speaker 3: you know, this is off the table. I do think
Speaker 3: that if you know, they're one and seven or whatever,
Speaker 3: their schedule's brutal. By the way, just like they could
Speaker 3: win that first game against the Dolphins and they could
Speaker 3: lose up until the trade deadline.
Speaker 4: I think that they're gonna move him.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be where the Eagles, the Bears, rob with
Speaker 3: the Seahawks. Multiple teams are going to be in on
Speaker 3: Max Crosby, and then John Lynch, as he always does,
Speaker 3: will inquire about it and be like, all right, so
Speaker 3: what's gonna take And when he hears Howie Roseman's offering
Speaker 3: a first, a second and Nolan Smith or the Bears
Speaker 3: are offering this guy in a first round pick, and
Speaker 3: John Lynch is like, Okay, you know what, for this
Speaker 3: particular player, we got to go over the top here.
Speaker 3: I know that Mark Davis does not want to send
Speaker 3: him to us, but let's get crazy here.
Speaker 4: Let's give you two first round picks.
Speaker 3: I think that the Niners are in a position not
Speaker 3: light the Rams right now, but for that player, you
Speaker 3: got to make that offer.
Speaker 4: So you don't think it's a pipe dream. I think that.
Speaker 3: I think it's tough with these two organizations, but agreed, agreed.
Speaker 3: I think, as John Middlcoff said to us back in March,
Speaker 3: it's a new day and age with the Raiders organization,
Speaker 3: and John spy Tech and Tom Brady could go to
Speaker 3: Mark Davis and say, look, we know you don't want
Speaker 3: to trade Max Crosby to the Niners. Obviously. It's the
Speaker 3: reason we're in Vegas right now is because the forty.
Speaker 4: But if you feel like.
Speaker 5: You're gonna come out of it better in the end,
Speaker 5: even if the Niners were to go on and win,
Speaker 5: you'd have to consider it.
Speaker 4: Oh God yah.
Speaker 3: So if those two guys can convince Mark Davis this
Speaker 3: is the best offer on the table, we were offered
Speaker 3: two first round picks, we have to pull the trigger
Speaker 3: on this. I think he would, so I don't think
Speaker 3: it's a pipe dream. I also don't think it's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: I think that Mark would rather trade with another team. Sure,
Speaker 3: but if John Lynch is willing to go above and
Speaker 3: beyond for the deal, then yes, I think that he
Speaker 3: would listen, and we'll see what happens when we get
Speaker 3: to that point. But the reason I bring that up
Speaker 3: is because do you want to make a move now
Speaker 3: that could eventually or potentially stop you from doing that
Speaker 3: deal later on? Like what is Vedavea gonna cost you
Speaker 3: a second and a fifth and then a long contract extension.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm willing to do that at
Speaker 3: thirty one years old. Because Finavey is not a pass
Speaker 3: rushing defensive tackle. He is a run stuffer, and I
Speaker 3: know some people are like, I don't like the way
Speaker 3: the run defense played last night, all right, but Warner
Speaker 3: and Drake Greenlaw didn't play.
Speaker 5: Vidave is a dominant player, yes on the interior, and yes,
Speaker 5: more is a run stuffer, but he is a dominant player.
Speaker 5: So I think there is a benefit to having him
Speaker 5: on your roster if you can get him.
Speaker 4: I think your point is spot on in.
Speaker 5: Terms of and this is sort of where the odd
Speaker 5: comparison to the Warriors comes into play. It's the Warriors
Speaker 5: were unwilling to do a bunch of things because they
Speaker 5: were waiting on Yannas, So they were waiting on Lebron,
Speaker 5: and they were waiting on some other moves. So they
Speaker 5: didn't do a smaller move that might have helped them
Speaker 5: because they were waiting on this bigger move. And I
Speaker 5: think it probably is the right course of action in
Speaker 5: this case, if you think later on you could be
Speaker 5: in the mix for a Max Crosby, to not look
Speaker 5: to give up some of what you might wish you
Speaker 5: had to get a Max Crosby on somebody, even as
Speaker 5: talented as Vidavea.
Speaker 3: Now let me ask you this, He's kind of the
Speaker 3: same boat, different deal than Vidavea, but he's forty nine
Speaker 3: er fans were very upset when he got traded away.
Speaker 3: DeForest Buckner's in the last year of his deal as well,
Speaker 3: and he's cost you last.
Speaker 2: He cost you last. He's coming off a neck injury.
Speaker 3: I don't know where the Colts are gonna be with
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones if they're not a good team at the
Speaker 3: trade deadline? Would you rather have a DeForest Buckner for
Speaker 3: cheaper or Vita Vea where you're going you have to
Speaker 3: get in the contract on top of that, it.
Speaker 5: Depends on what you're gonna get in addition to DeForest.
Speaker 5: But like, if you're telling me you can get you
Speaker 5: can get DeForest Buckner for cheaper. But because you get
Speaker 5: DeForest Buckner for cheaper, you're going to have the ability
Speaker 5: to add someone else in addition to DeForest Buckner, because
Speaker 5: you've saved some of your.
Speaker 4: War chests, so to speak. Yeah, then I'm even more
Speaker 4: all in at that point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't think that would stop John
Speaker 3: Lynch from making another move, like again, going out of
Speaker 3: getting Vita Bayo.
Speaker 5: All what you give up, but it's what you give
Speaker 5: up determines whether you can't make another.
Speaker 3: Movement now, you know, but like, are they in that
Speaker 3: window right now where John Lynch is like, Okay, I
Speaker 3: give up a second, a fifth for Vita Vea and
Speaker 3: you know what Max Frock is available to I get
Speaker 3: up two first round picks.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's gonna be f them picks like
Speaker 2: less need.
Speaker 4: Is right now, that's a lot though, if you did that,
Speaker 4: that would be a ton.
Speaker 2: Well, of course that's your future.
Speaker 5: That would be a ton. And again, what makes you
Speaker 5: more willing to do it? Are you truly in the
Speaker 5: championship window right now? Is one part of the equation. Yeah,
Speaker 5: And but if this is gonna be a go into
Speaker 5: the season proposition, then you're gonna have to prove it
Speaker 5: as a team going through the beginning of the season.
Speaker 4: Like you're gonna have to be at that point.
Speaker 5: I forget how many games there are at the trade
Speaker 5: deadline for nine. Yeah, so it's if you're I mean,
Speaker 5: you're gonna have to be six and two, You're gonna
Speaker 5: have to be seven and two, six and three, you know,
Speaker 5: something like the probably six and three through nine at
Speaker 5: a minimum seven, you know, to where you are unequivocally,
Speaker 5: it's undeniable.
Speaker 4: You're going for it.
Speaker 5: You're gonna be less appt to do that if you're
Speaker 5: four and four.
Speaker 3: No, I mean, it's contingent on where they're at. That's
Speaker 3: where I think a season ago. But they will prove
Speaker 3: that or not, of course. But I also think like
Speaker 3: member fans last year being up in arms, like you
Speaker 3: didn't trade for Trey Hendrickson or Jermaine Johnson.
Speaker 4: It was the right call.
Speaker 2: It was the right call to do it, because honestly.
Speaker 5: I don't know if I said that at the time,
Speaker 5: by the way, so don't no, no, no, don't at me.
Speaker 3: But I also think that Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch
Speaker 3: at the time, we're not expecting them to be as
Speaker 3: good as they were given all the injuries and everything,
Speaker 3: and they're like, let's just see how it plays out
Speaker 3: and then maybe we can save our draft capital for
Speaker 3: something bigger down the line. I think Max Crosby is
Speaker 3: that type of player. I'm not sure. I know that
Speaker 3: they might be in the mix for Viteveo, but I'm
Speaker 3: not sure that they would pull the trigger on that
Speaker 3: right now. I think that maybe we'll see what happens
Speaker 3: to the trade deadline. If he is not dealt and
Speaker 3: Vida Vea is on the Buccaneers and he's pissed off
Speaker 3: and they're having a terrible season, then maybe they revisit
Speaker 3: that if they're not happy with the play of an
Speaker 3: Alfred Collins or a CJ.
Speaker 4: West. So, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think that the forty nine ers are not in
Speaker 3: the same position as a Rams to go f them
Speaker 3: picks and go crazy like that for a player like Vitavea.
Speaker 3: But if Max Crosby's there and they will to go
Speaker 3: over the top, yeah, they're probably gonna Actually, you know,
Speaker 3: ask about that with John Spizek.
Speaker 5: And they have to prove in the part of the
Speaker 5: season that leads up to the trade deadline that they're
Speaker 5: on that level. Right, that's the added element, Like you
Speaker 5: can say you believe you're on that level now and
Speaker 5: do something and nobody would deny it or disagree with you.
Speaker 5: But once the season actually starts, then it's on the
Speaker 5: fifty three and the seventy man roster to be able
Speaker 5: to say, all right, this is what this team actually
Speaker 5: is and if you add to it it could be
Speaker 5: even greater. You gotta do it and We've seen the
Speaker 5: forty nine ers in years past be willing to be
Speaker 5: active at the trade deadline if there is an area
Speaker 5: in which they think they need to improve. So I
Speaker 5: don't doubt if the forty nine ers went out and
Speaker 5: started out six and two, seven and two, that they
Speaker 5: wouldn't be really willing to do something big that could
Speaker 5: potentially get them over the top.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 3: I wes see them do that in years past, whether
Speaker 3: it's trade for Christian McCaffrey or Chase Young and you know,
Speaker 3: in years up prior.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I do think they're going to be aggressive.
Speaker 3: I think they need to be a little bit aggressive
Speaker 3: right now given what's going on with Nick Bosa and
Speaker 3: not having a lot of depth as far as pass rushers.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's veteran pass rushers available, just on the
Speaker 3: older side. I remember Kyle van Noy kind of campaigning
Speaker 3: to be on the Niners. We'll see what happens with that.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure I love him at this point in
Speaker 3: his career. I think he's like thirty five Von Miller's older,
Speaker 3: but consistently always gets eight nine sacks a year, and
Speaker 3: you need that right now.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think you're probably waiting as long as
Speaker 5: you possibly can without obviously letting some of those guys
Speaker 5: come off the market to where you can attempt to
Speaker 5: bring them in at the latest possible date and also
Speaker 5: maybe have to pay the least amount yeah possible as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, Joey Bosa is still out there.
Speaker 3: It sounds like Nick's telling everybody, don't don't hold your breath.
Speaker 4: He's He's probably not He will not play.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he will absolutely not play if he doesn't get
Speaker 5: the amount that he wants to play.
Speaker 3: It doesn'tem sound like he's ready though. It sounds like he's
Speaker 3: just playing golf in Florida. And there's other teams right
Speaker 3: now that you look at the Atlanta Falcons, their young
Speaker 3: pass rusher James Pearce is gonna be suspended eight games.
Speaker 3: They lost Jalen Walker for the season. So there's gonna
Speaker 3: be teams that really need pass rush show. We'll see
Speaker 3: the next couple of weeks here if the Niners are
Speaker 3: as aggressive as some of these other teams.
Speaker 2: Right now, let's catch up with Richard.
Speaker 3: Really, we'll find when we can catch up with Marcus Thompson,
Speaker 3: but let's catch up with the former Giants shortstop up next,
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Speaker 6: Much that's going on a note of a lot.
Speaker 3: Big news today though at Oracle Park. The All Star
Speaker 3: Games coming back in twenty twenty eight. Just your thoughts
Speaker 3: on that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I heard that. I mean I remember going. Actually
Speaker 6: I was still playing the last one in seven, and
Speaker 6: I remember going to the game and watching it with
Speaker 6: my with my sons at the time. And yeah, listen,
Speaker 6: it's it's a jewel of a ballpark. Regardless of whether
Speaker 6: the team is twenty one games under in first place,
Speaker 6: it's a jewel of a ballpark that major League Baseball
Speaker 6: should come ote. So I think it'll be great. I
Speaker 6: think it'll be you know, again, great city for it,
Speaker 6: and just a great, great ballpark to you know, basically
Speaker 6: represent major League Baseball for that All Star Game.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I was going to ask you, and you
Speaker 5: have answered it there because you'd come back to the
Speaker 5: Giants right in two thousand and seven, so you were
Speaker 5: playing for the Giants and obviously young younger kids then,
Speaker 5: and it was it was Barries last year, it was
Speaker 5: Boach his first year. There was there's kind of a
Speaker 5: lot going on in two thousand and seven. What what
Speaker 5: do you remember about about the game, and just about
Speaker 5: the event being in the area for those those handful
Speaker 5: of days.
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, on a personal one, I remember I went.
Speaker 6: I took my boys to the uh the the day
Speaker 6: before events like the home ruwn contests and all that stuff,
Speaker 6: and you know, they were they were way younger at
Speaker 6: the time and still totally into baseball, so they totally
Speaker 6: enjoyed that. I think I forget who was I might
Speaker 6: been Vladimir Guerrero that yeah, and he wanted hit went
Speaker 6: up to the gloves. Maybe I thought it was maybe him,
Speaker 6: But yeah, I think the city was just kind of
Speaker 6: really juice to it that year, because you know, coming
Speaker 6: off a couple of down years, I think, and and
Speaker 6: just representing, you know, just the city of San Francisco.
Speaker 6: And then what I remember about the game, and if
Speaker 6: I'm my mind's not, you know, faltering right now, I
Speaker 6: didn't she rose an inside the parker.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he was MVP. Yeah he did. Yeah, he
Speaker 4: slammed it off the bricks.
Speaker 5: And I think I think I think it was Griffy
Speaker 5: that kind of misplayed it or it took a weird
Speaker 5: carem And each year I.
Speaker 4: Was off to the races.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I mean those are the things I remember,
Speaker 6: and you know, I just this is my hope as
Speaker 6: a fan of the game. I hope that in this
Speaker 6: two year span that we're waiting to see that All
Speaker 6: Star game there, that they kind of figure out a
Speaker 6: way so like, you know, get the guys involved. And
Speaker 6: what I mean by that is like, you know, figure
Speaker 6: something out where you can get the best guys to
Speaker 6: play a couple of innings or pitch a couple of innings.
Speaker 6: And because I think the last few years is honestly,
Speaker 6: he's been kind of a letdown with you know, this
Speaker 6: guy pulls out last minute, this guy pulls out last minute,
Speaker 6: and then you replace him with another guy and another
Speaker 6: guy played, so like it hasn't really is it an
Speaker 6: All Star game anymore? I don't know. I mean it's
Speaker 6: a who's available game sometimes, And I hope they figure
Speaker 6: that out by that point because it should be a
Speaker 6: great exhibition for baseball fans that come watch.
Speaker 3: Now totally talking to Richard really on the Uma guess line.
Speaker 3: So Tony Vatila was on the Morning show the other
Speaker 3: day saying, it's great to have the Wall of Fame
Speaker 3: ceremony last week, but then they play the game and
Speaker 3: get routed and just you know, feeling a certain responsibility
Speaker 3: when your twenty games below five hundred and these forty
Speaker 3: one games remaining matter to a lot of players on
Speaker 3: the team right now. But in your opinion, Richie, one
Speaker 3: of these remaining games mean for Tony and establishing winning
Speaker 3: tendencies that could carry out, could carry over next season.
Speaker 6: Well, you know, it's funny you say that. You know,
Speaker 6: I didn't hear him this morning, but I did hear,
Speaker 6: you know, some comments early in the week about frustration
Speaker 6: and about not winning games. And you know, and I
Speaker 6: look at this in two different ways. I mean, Keny
Speaker 6: Bytello has a three year contract. And again I've said
Speaker 6: this multiple times on your show. You know this where
Speaker 6: I like Tony. I like him as a guy. I
Speaker 6: think he's got a good personality. I think he gets,
Speaker 6: you know, along great with the guys on the team.
Speaker 6: And at the same time, he's still is in the
Speaker 6: learning process. I mean, so it's hard for him. He
Speaker 6: was putting a situation this year, you know, maybe he
Speaker 6: was not the best chance to win while while learning
Speaker 6: at the same time. So you know, I'll start by
Speaker 6: saying that if you look at these last games that
Speaker 6: are going to be played here down the stretch, and
Speaker 6: I also heard him make a comment about I think
Speaker 6: it was the day that he pulled Tidwell. Yeah, maybe,
Speaker 6: And then they end up losing that game, and one
Speaker 6: of the questions from the Beat writers was, why'd you
Speaker 6: pull Tidwell? Shouldn't you, you know, leave him in there
Speaker 6: try and learn how to work out out of the jam.
Speaker 6: And I think Tony's response was something like, well, it's
Speaker 6: not about learning anymore at this point. We've got to
Speaker 6: win ball games. And I understand what he's saying, but
Speaker 6: I also believe that at this point you have to
Speaker 6: evaluate talent, and the best way to evaluate talent is
Speaker 6: to get guys out there and put them in positions
Speaker 6: that they might not ever have been in before. And
Speaker 6: I remember for years hearing, you know, guys like Maddox
Speaker 6: and Smolt and glab and you know, probably one of
Speaker 6: the last big Big three, you know, who were all
Speaker 6: in the Hall of Fame, say, you know how we
Speaker 6: learned how to get out of jams? And their answer
Speaker 6: was because they let us get out of jams, our
Speaker 6: own jams, right, And you know, and then I looked
Speaker 6: at the box square ifter Tony made that comment, and
Speaker 6: I was like, well, you know, he could have probably said, well,
Speaker 6: Tibow was at ninety six pitches. You know, you know,
Speaker 6: he's a young guy. We don't want to overdo it,
Speaker 6: you know. And I think, you know, for me, that
Speaker 6: would have been a great answer. But I think going
Speaker 6: back to these last games that you're playing, you have
Speaker 6: to see what some of these people could do, or
Speaker 6: some of these young guys could do, you know, on
Speaker 6: a I don't know if it's an everyday basis or
Speaker 6: if you're looking at them as bench guys next year,
Speaker 6: but you have to get an idea of what you
Speaker 6: have going into next year. And you guys notice as
Speaker 6: well as I do. The Giants won't say a rebuild,
Speaker 6: we know that, but you have to know what you're
Speaker 6: going into next year with to see at what level
Speaker 6: you can compete. And you know you're behind the eight
Speaker 6: ball because you got three teams in your division that
Speaker 6: I mean pretty much on paper you know, are going
Speaker 6: to look better than you. And it's an i'll kill battles.
Speaker 6: So I think I'd like to see them evaluate some
Speaker 6: talent and see, you know, if I need these guys
Speaker 6: fit into the mix.
Speaker 5: Next year, how much do you think Tony has to
Speaker 5: weigh the line between trying to get some wins to
Speaker 5: keep morale up and to keep everybody you know feeling
Speaker 5: as good as you can given the circumstances with the
Speaker 5: overall record versus sort of those evaluations of younger players
Speaker 5: and maybe being more understanding of mistakes that might be
Speaker 5: beneficial in the long haul, even if unfortunately they might
Speaker 5: cost you a game in the short term this year.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I look at it this way. I mean,
Speaker 6: if they win, you know, if you win seventy five
Speaker 6: games or seventy games. But honestly, there's no big difference there.
Speaker 6: And that's my personal opinion.
Speaker 4: It's just a bad year, right.
Speaker 5: You move on from it, and you're gonna be like,
Speaker 5: it's we had a bad year in twenty six or whatever.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you'd like to think that and then just move
Speaker 6: on and try and learn from it. But along that way,
Speaker 6: I will say this, if you're playing teams that are
Speaker 6: in a race, and I've been on teams like this before,
Speaker 6: and you're playing teams that are in a race and
Speaker 6: fighting for a playoff spot, those are the teams that
Speaker 6: they're fighting with want you to put your best players
Speaker 6: in your best performance out there. So there's that fine
Speaker 6: line of like playing some games a little bit differently
Speaker 6: than others maybe, and you know, I mean you could
Speaker 6: tell them baseball sometimes if there's a winning situation in
Speaker 6: a game or a time where you can nail down
Speaker 6: that win, well, then now you have to go for it.
Speaker 6: But if you're down, you know, I don't know, four
Speaker 6: runs in the sixth or seventh inning, and you know,
Speaker 6: give give somebody a chance to work out of a jam,
Speaker 6: or give somebody a chance to get a big hit
Speaker 6: and see what they have because like you said, you know,
Speaker 6: it may look bad in the short term, but you
Speaker 6: may learn something about some of these guys for the
Speaker 6: long term.
Speaker 3: Talking to Richardrelia on the UMA guest line on the
Speaker 3: flip side of that, one thing ADYE. Begley was saying
Speaker 3: to us was maybe Tony needs to be more vocal
Speaker 3: with the older players and having them sit. You saw
Speaker 3: the other day Willia Domis he's battling a back injury
Speaker 3: and now it's aggravated again with where the season Z.
Speaker 3: Do you think Tony could have more conversations like that
Speaker 3: with the older guys.
Speaker 6: I'd like to think so I mean, you know, he
Speaker 6: is the leader of that team, you know, regardless of
Speaker 6: if he's ever done it or not before. And you know,
Speaker 6: I was around the team in spring training for that week,
Speaker 6: and I've been around it a little bit this year,
Speaker 6: and I feel like there is a level of respect
Speaker 6: for Tony, and everybody likes Tony, you know. I don't
Speaker 6: know if he's a little leery of, you know, going
Speaker 6: up to one of those veterans and say, hey, you're
Speaker 6: sitting today with I don't know, but if you're the
Speaker 6: manager of a big league team, you have the right
Speaker 6: to do that because you put that lineup out every
Speaker 6: day and you're making decisions based off what you think
Speaker 6: is best for the team that day and for that
Speaker 6: series and for the rest of the year. And Tony's
Speaker 6: brought in here for a specific reasons why he's here,
Speaker 6: you know, and Buster sees something in him and that's
Speaker 6: why he was hired. So you might as well, I
Speaker 6: don't know how to say it or like, so you
Speaker 6: might as well live it up and be the manager,
Speaker 6: right And if all the decisions you want to make,
Speaker 6: I mean, that's your job to hold or to win
Speaker 6: or to lose. I mean, that's what your job is.
Speaker 5: Yeah, completely, just your opinion, your observation of Tony.
Speaker 4: Did you think he was going to be.
Speaker 5: A little more boisterous than he's been Do you think
Speaker 5: he was kind of I think he's been genuine, so
Speaker 5: I'm not necessarily questioning that. I just sort of thought
Speaker 5: maybe he's a little more thoughtful than maybe people gave
Speaker 5: him credit for being not necessarily good or bad. But
Speaker 5: it kind of felt and I didn't know a lot
Speaker 5: about him because I don't really all of the college
Speaker 5: baseball than maybe once they get toward the regionals, in
Speaker 5: the in the College World Series and all that. But
Speaker 5: did you expect maybe somebody that his personality would be
Speaker 5: felt a little bit more on the day and out basis.
Speaker 6: I think Tony's a very likable guy when you get
Speaker 6: to talk to him and get to know him a
Speaker 6: little bit. Sure, But I also think he was put
Speaker 6: in a position that he's never been in before. I mean, listen,
Speaker 6: if you know, if you're managing a college team which
Speaker 6: is a bunch of kids from you know whatever, nineteen
Speaker 6: to twenty two, twenty three years old, and you're the guy,
Speaker 6: and listen, we all saw highlights and clips of him
Speaker 6: and his personality and how he was on the field
Speaker 6: in college. You know, I don't know if that translates
Speaker 6: to the big leagues, you know, especially in your first year.
Speaker 6: I mean, I think Tony's a great guy. I think
Speaker 6: he has a great personality. But I think as we'll
Speaker 6: see more of it, as he gets more comfortable, as
Speaker 6: he moves along, you know, through the end of this
Speaker 6: year through next year, I think we'll see more of it.
Speaker 6: And you know, I think again, I mean, I think
Speaker 6: one of the main reasons Buster brought him in here
Speaker 6: was because of the Buster exactly, because of the fact
Speaker 6: that he has that rapport with younger players, and I
Speaker 6: think the team wants to get younger. And you saw
Speaker 6: the moves that they made at the deadline. They did
Speaker 6: get younger, and they did get some good prospects. So,
Speaker 6: you know, I think it remains to be seen, at
Speaker 6: least this year, if we're getting the full personality of Tony.
Speaker 6: But I think we'll see maybe a different side of
Speaker 6: him next year after a year of learning and getting
Speaker 6: around the league and and you know, managing the team,
Speaker 6: and now he has some young guys that he can
Speaker 6: you know, maybe deal with in a.
Speaker 3: Different way talking to Richard Realia on the Yumaguest line. Yeah,
Speaker 3: this time of the year, you're hoping to see more
Speaker 3: of the young guys play, but there are season ending
Speaker 3: injuries to Casey Schmid and Trevor McDonald and now Daniel
Speaker 3: Sussak out for the year with a broken knee cap
Speaker 3: What your thoughts on that news, rich were obviously want
Speaker 3: to see these guys play a little bit more, but
Speaker 3: now injuries are.
Speaker 4: Taking them out of it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know it injuries. You can never really dictate injuries, right,
Speaker 6: And you got, you know, each one of those guys,
Speaker 6: and I put at the top of that list Casey Schmid.
Speaker 6: He's kind of put himself on the map this year
Speaker 6: per se by putting up some numbers playing different positions,
Speaker 6: and I think which showed me more about him this year.
Speaker 6: And I'm going to be honest, I don't know if
Speaker 6: I was a Casey Schmid believer going into the season,
Speaker 6: but what I saw him do offensively and the improvements,
Speaker 6: especially when he was asked to play, you know, forty
Speaker 6: eight different positions out there and still focus on his offense,
Speaker 6: I think that was very important. It's a good learning
Speaker 6: experience for him and a good way to measure his focus,
Speaker 6: and we saw that he was ultimately focused this year
Speaker 6: at the plate. And then you get the other guy,
Speaker 6: I mean, Trevor McDonald. We saw the highs, we saw
Speaker 6: the lows, right, I mean, it was a split bag
Speaker 6: for him. And then Sue Sak, I mean, I think
Speaker 6: you're looking at your catch through the future there, I
Speaker 6: really do. And it's just, you know, it crushes you
Speaker 6: when a young guy like that, right, Like just he
Speaker 6: hasn't seen to be able to kind of stay healthy
Speaker 6: all year this year, but I think we've seen flashes
Speaker 6: of brilliance from him that I think they can carry
Speaker 6: into the future and kind of rely on him as
Speaker 6: not only is a good defensive option, but as a
Speaker 6: pretty good offensive option moving forward.
Speaker 5: Richie, I want to ask you just to kind of
Speaker 5: go back to the All Star comments and you know
Speaker 5: the fact that the All Star Games has changed, and
Speaker 5: I think just from being an observer and somebody that's
Speaker 5: covered a lot of baseball and loves watching baseball, it
Speaker 5: hasn't been the same for me just to watch it,
Speaker 5: like I'm more inclined to take the vacation, you know,
Speaker 5: during that time or maybe do something else, and I
Speaker 5: don't get locked in on it.
Speaker 4: What do you remember.
Speaker 5: About two thousand and one and your All Star appearance
Speaker 5: because you were having a year and Barry was obviously
Speaker 5: having a year, and it was in Seattle, if memory serves,
Speaker 5: and they were having a year, and it was kind
Speaker 5: of the infancy of that ballpark, which is one of
Speaker 5: the best in the game.
Speaker 4: But what do you remember about just.
Speaker 5: What it meant to be an All Star and the
Speaker 5: experience of the All Star Game?
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, one, I was totally honored because I remembered
Speaker 6: as a kid going to Shay Stadium as a Mets
Speaker 6: fand I remember getting those ballots where you poke the
Speaker 6: holes out right and then you drop it in the
Speaker 6: ballot box right on the concourse. And you know, in
Speaker 6: two thousand and one, I think that was still before
Speaker 6: online voting. So for me, the biggest honor was actually
Speaker 6: being voted in as a starter for that game. And
Speaker 6: it was regardless of my numbers. It was just like, Wow,
Speaker 6: fans voted me in, you know, And okay, maybe there
Speaker 6: were a lot of our fans, but you know, I
Speaker 6: got voted in by the fans to start the also game.
Speaker 6: So number one, that was just such a great honor.
Speaker 6: Number two to be. I mean, we had a third
Speaker 6: of the lineup with me, Barry and Jeff in there playing,
Speaker 6: you know, simultaneously starting that game. So that was an
Speaker 6: honor to where the Giants uniform and do that, you know.
Speaker 6: And then when you get to the aspect of the
Speaker 6: actual event and the game, I mean, it's like a blur,
Speaker 6: it really is. It's like that that workout day and
Speaker 6: the home run derby day just is like there and
Speaker 6: it's gone. And then the next day you got to
Speaker 6: get there early to sign all the paraphernalia that's lined
Speaker 6: up in the batting cages down there for everybody, and
Speaker 6: then next thing you know, you have a couple of
Speaker 6: bats and you're done. But I will say this that
Speaker 6: the highlights for me of that game was me playing
Speaker 6: short stuff as a kid who watched Cal Ripkin and
Speaker 6: that was one of my idols playing his last game,
Speaker 6: and you know, hit that home run the left center
Speaker 6: field I think it was off Chanhope Park. That was
Speaker 6: pretty amazing for me as a fan of the game
Speaker 6: and of Cal Ripkin. And then two, I mean, thankfully
Speaker 6: there was no injuries, but Tommy was sort of getting
Speaker 6: almost speared by Vladimir Guerrero's back coach at third base
Speaker 6: and rolling him back on his on his back there
Speaker 6: at third base, and then Barry ran out there to
Speaker 6: give him some catcher's gear to put on. You know
Speaker 6: it if you look back at his player. I wish
Speaker 6: I would have made more All Star Games, but the
Speaker 6: one that I made, I try to make the most
Speaker 6: of it. I enjoyed it as much as I could.
Speaker 6: And uh, you know again, it's an honor to have
Speaker 6: that on your resume, no matter where it is, when
Speaker 6: it is, or you know what position you're playing.
Speaker 5: Well, don't don't sell yourself short, because I think you
Speaker 5: led the National League in hits that year when it
Speaker 5: was all said and done, if I if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 5: I think you had what to over two hundred, right
Speaker 5: it was?
Speaker 4: Did it was over two hundred?
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, it was two six and led the National League,
Speaker 6: right yeah? And and of course, you know, with being
Speaker 6: the competitor I was. We got at the end of
Speaker 6: the year, and I think the San Francisco record was
Speaker 6: two oh eight and I missed that by two and
Speaker 6: I was kind of ticked off I didn't get that.
Speaker 6: But yeah, you know it. And here's the other funny thing.
Speaker 6: I think at the time was the game I was
Speaker 6: actually leading. I don't know if it majoras is definitely naturally.
Speaker 6: I was hitting like three fifty five and I was
Speaker 6: hitting ninth in our lineup that year. I was the
Speaker 6: last bag again introduced on the bench. They're all by
Speaker 6: myself at Safego. So that's how loaded. That's how loaded
Speaker 6: that the lineups were back then.
Speaker 4: That's great.
Speaker 5: I don't remember that I may or may not have
Speaker 5: been young enough to have punched a few of those
Speaker 5: ballots with you and Jeff and Barry.
Speaker 4: Well, I'll admit that to you that that was always
Speaker 4: fun to do.
Speaker 6: I always needed every vote I could get.
Speaker 4: Man, we do it every week with rich Aurelia. Rich.
Speaker 3: Thanks is always Man. We're talking next week, all right, guys,
Speaker 3: take care of me, all right, have a go one
Speaker 3: to really you can listen to that interview on the
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Speaker 3: gonna be joined by Larry Krueger at five thirty to
Speaker 3: talk about last night the forty nine ers, the first
Speaker 3: game action of the season. I believe will finally track
Speaker 3: down Marcus Thompson to talk to him at five point fifty.
Speaker 3: But next, let's talk about last night in a way
Speaker 3: where Robert Sala, the guy that led the forty nine
Speaker 3: ers defense for many years, came back a year ago
Speaker 3: camera he Morris be the next Robert Sala. We'll talk
Speaker 3: about a next John Dickinson, Derek Papa at the Patio
Speaker 3: fifty eight social on the Sports Leader