WEBVTT - Full NBA Schedules Released, plus Rich Aurilia on the current state of the Giants 0:00:00.800 --> 0:00:02.920 Let's get back to Dirty Work with Copes and d 0:00:03.120 --> 0:00:06.360 Pop live from fifty eight Social at Oracle Park before 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:10.640 Tonight's Giants game. On The Sports Leader. 0:00:11.680 --> 0:00:13.720 How's it going Dirty Work on a Friday? 0:00:13.880 --> 0:00:16.800 John Dickts and Derek Papa Here at the patio fifty 0:00:16.840 --> 0:00:20.279 eight Social. Giants and Rockies Tonight will be joined by 0:00:20.320 --> 0:00:24.400 Marcus Thompson in about twelve minutes talking about the Warriors 0:00:24.480 --> 0:00:28.800 off season, his article on Don Nelson and uh. 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:30.160 Need more time with Marcus. 0:00:30.200 --> 0:00:32.240 We do need more time with Marcus. We do already. 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:33.920 We adn't even on yet. We need more time. 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:36.839 I know, well you should have caledon, didn't should have 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:37.519 answered the phono. 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:40.560 Three foot We're going anymore? We get it. Yeah, yeah, 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:41.120 we'll be fine. 0:00:41.120 --> 0:00:43.879 We'll be But I do want to talk schedules with you, 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:45.800 because you're a schedule guide. 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:48.800 Yeah. Well, you know what I'll say, this schedule nerd 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:49.800 is actually. 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:54.520 I love a good schedule. I love more in NFL schedule. 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:55.680 I love a schedule release. 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:58.160 It is a little different though. I mean with the NBA, 0:00:58.240 --> 0:00:58.720 of course it is. 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:01.880 We're talking about any two games and like yesterday I 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:05.040 saw the Warriors put out some cartoon with Draymond and 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:07.760 Jimmy Butler and Steph Curry for their schedule release video. 0:01:07.800 --> 0:01:09.360 It's like Scooby Doo themes. 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:10.480 And I was like, what is this? Did you see 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:11.680 the Bulls one? I did not. 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:14.240 The Bulls One's good. I would agree, it's with Benny 0:01:14.280 --> 0:01:15.680 the Bull. Okay, the mascot. 0:01:15.720 --> 0:01:17.440 Okay, we think it's kind of ridiculous that the NBA 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:19.600 is trying to be like, we got our own schedule release. 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:23.480 Yes it is, but the Bulls one was good. Okay, 0:01:24.000 --> 0:01:25.840 well check it out. What what was. 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:28.800 Funny about just the Bull was? It's just Benny the 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:29.959 bulls hilarious? 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:33.720 Okay, fair enough, Okay, Like that's number one, yeah, yeah, 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:35.840 And I go way back with Benny back, I mean 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:36.840 back to twenty sixteen. 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:37.960 You guys are boys, Yeah. 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:42.280 We're yeah, multiple yeah, I mean he's he's dumped popcorn 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:44.960 on me, and like, like, we go way back, So 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:47.720 I am a little biased. Yeah, Benny the Bull, but 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:50.440 I mean dumps popcorn and everybody but right, but I 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:53.440 did happen to get popcorn dumped on me in twenty sixteen. 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:54.600 That's I praise nice. 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:57.560 Well when it comes to the time ago, when when 0:01:57.560 --> 0:02:00.400 the Warriors. When it comes to the Warriors schedule, looks 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:03.400 at the Nasaly televised games, and of course with how 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:05.200 old they are back to backs. 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:07.120 You know what I look at first and foremost, what's that? 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:09.280 Where are the three and fours? 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:09.639 Yeah? 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:11.040 Where are the back to backs? We're the three and 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:11.720 fourth exactly. 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:15.680 And the first thing that stands out Derek. Game three 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:19.400 of the season, they start in La. They've got the 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:23.360 exact same most similar layout as last year. They start 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:26.600 Wednesday in La October twenty first. They have an off 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:29.800 day Thursday. Their home Friday home opener on the twenty third, 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:31.959 which is a year from when we had the roundtable 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:35.919 out at at Harmonic Brewing just down the street here, 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:39.680 and so everything is a year a year to the day, right. 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:41.960 The opener last year was on Tuesday the twenty first. 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:43.960 This year it's Wednesday, the twenty first. Last year, the 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:45.920 home opener was Thursday to twenty third. This year the 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:49.920 home openers Friday to twenty third. So, and then they 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:53.000 went up to Portland for the third game of the year, 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:55.000 which was Friday the twenty fourth. 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:56.440 Yeah, the day after. 0:02:56.400 --> 0:02:59.240 A Baraja three pointers from the Portland Trailblazers then made and. 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:01.200 I don't know if you were, Mads, but even though 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:02.799 it was the third game of the year, and even 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:06.120 though the Warriors were two and oh, going down to 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:08.600 La and winning and then coming back home and coming 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:10.799 back and beating the Nuggets, and the home opener on 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:15.639 our roundtable night where we were out at Harmonic, even 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:19.040 though they were two and oh, Steve Kerr played the 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:23.520 regulars in Portland. Warriors got smoked, They got completely ran 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:26.560 out of Moda Center. And Steve Kerr after the game 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:29.519 and I did dubbs ot from up there on that night, 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:34.160 and Steve Cerr after the game said, yeah, I regret 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:37.080 not giving the veteran guys. 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:37.520 The night off. 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:41.480 It was game three, Game three, but it was the 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:44.960 third game in four nights. So anywhere there's three games 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:48.400 in four nights, I feel like that's an automatic punt. 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:51.000 Considering the fact that the Warriors basically have the exact 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:53.360 same roster they had last year. Oh, by the way, 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:55.360 Jimmy Butler, Moses Moody, you're not going to be round 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:58.600 for probably at least half of the season. So long 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:02.200 story short, Game three of the season this year at Phoenix, 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:05.640 third game in four knights, that's punt. Oh, by the way, 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:08.960 then you go play Denver in Minnesota, you start at 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:13.680 the Lakers. This team better win the home opener against Memphis. 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:16.080 They might be one and four even with that win, 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:20.680 even with Steph Curry healthy and available. So much for 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:23.320 the schedule, gouds doing the Warriors any favors, not that 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:26.119 they're owed, but if you recall, that was a huge 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:29.359 part of the story last year, and my goodness that 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:33.760 the beginning I mean at LA Memphis, at Phoenix, three 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:37.600 games and four nights at Denver, at Minnesota before they 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:39.680 come home for a six game Homestand I mean, what's 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:41.560 their record in the first five games of the year, 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:45.800 One and four objectively speaking, right, that could be unless 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:47.760 they pull a rabbit out of the hat somewhere. 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:49.600 They're one and four five games in. 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:50.080 Yeah. 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:51.640 But I you know, I thought Steve Carer brought that 0:04:51.720 --> 0:04:53.360 up a little bit too much last year, where it's like, 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:54.520 the schedule's tough. 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:55.800 Well, well, yeah, of course it is. 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:56.560 You're the Warriors. 0:04:56.600 --> 0:05:00.839 They did, but it's gonna be tough this year too. Yeah, 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:02.480 So I don't think him bringing it up or not 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:03.640 bringing it up matters. 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:05.080 It doesn't. 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:07.480 But also it's just the situation they're in. 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:08.640 They're the Warriors. 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:10.599 And also what do you make of them having less 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:13.440 nationally televised games like that comes with the territory of 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:16.320 them natural. Yeah, like they're an older team right now, 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:18.560 people still want to see Steph. They got twenty eight, 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:21.080 but that's less than what they had in recent years. 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:23.520 Now they do have the four or five on the 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:26.000 road to begin the year and then they come home 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:29.680 for six. You talk about the nationally televised games, I 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:33.880 thought the league still gave them a decent amount if 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:36.599 you were in the first half of the season. Obviously, 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:39.960 because they're expecting and hoping, the league is hoping that 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:43.159 Jimmy Butler comes back. And I put the middle of 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:46.520 the year middle of January roughly. I mean, I'm looking 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:48.559 at the forty first game. 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:49.360 Now. 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:51.279 Look, there's two games that are going to get rescheduled 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:53.359 in December. So the forty first game right now is 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:55.640 not actually going to be the forty first game. What's 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:58.520 it's actually the forty first game is actually going to 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:01.680 be the Sacramento game on right on January twelfth, even 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:04.320 though right now that's the thirty ninth game. But if 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:07.920 you count that as the first half and then move forward. 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:11.240 I mean they're counting, or at least the league is 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:15.200 hoping that Jimmy Butler and Steph at a minimum are 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:16.799 back and playing together. 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:19.039 And that's when you get another. 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:21.760 Laker game at Okasee, a couple of San Antonios of 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:24.280 Boston and New York, the night before the Super Bowl 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:29.960 at Madison Square Garden Cooper Flag and Dallas, Houston, Portland, Denver. 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:34.599 The Lakers again, two games against Philly because you got 0:06:34.600 --> 0:06:38.480 to get Steph and Lebron a week apart, but the 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:42.000 last week of March because you really really want to 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:45.520 make sure Stefan and Jimmy are healthy for that one. 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:51.640 And then Minnesota Phoenix OKAC to close things out toward 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:54.080 the back half of the year. So I saw a 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:56.640 lot of complaining about the early part of the schedule. 0:06:57.400 --> 0:06:59.200 I also saw a lot of complaining about the second 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:00.760 half of the schedule. I knew the second half of 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:04.000 the schedule was going to be more difficult because those 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:05.719 are the games where they want to put Steph on 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:09.160 national television, hoping that Jimmy Butler's going to be a 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:09.960 part of the equation. 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:12.200 I mean, the biggest thing to me is that they 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:14.480 are tied for the most back to backs with fifteen, 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:18.600 and you have a older roster where Al Horford and 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:21.280 Porzingis and a lot of these and Stephen Draymond may 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:24.160 not play in these games. So it's Yaxel in the gang. Like, 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:26.920 I just don't know how anything's going to change. 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:29.800 But and again it starts. The third game of the 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:31.320 year is going to be a punt. 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:34.160 Yeah, Like I can tell you right now on August 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:37.800 fourteenth that the Warriors could go play a hell of 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:41.000 a game against the Lakers in the opener and let's 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:45.280 say lose close and then beat Memphis and be one 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:47.600 and one, going to Phoenix second of a back to 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:51.280 back three and four, and they're punting. Yeah, like that 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:54.600 Steph ain't playing that night. Draymond ain't playing that night. 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:58.640 Horford or Perzingis or both ain't playing that night. Melton's 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:01.560 probably not playing that night. I mean they Yeah, it's 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:06.120 Yaxel and will Richard Pods. I mean in Phoenix, which 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:08.720 is a team that knocked your ass out going back 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:12.760 to April to get that final playing spot in the 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:15.640 eight seed, and then you and then after the game 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:20.000 against a lesser opponent, in comparison Phoenix compared to Denver 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:22.400 in Minnesota. Then you go to Denver in Minnesota to 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:24.720 boot before you come home and play the Lakers. I mean, 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:28.280 one in five is on the table here. And this 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:31.840 is with everybody healthy among you know, not accounting for 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:35.400 obviously Jimmy Butler and Moses Moody. 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:37.319 So yeah, then you. 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:40.360 Get some home then you get some home cooking. There's 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:43.720 there's a winnable trip in the middle of November. You 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:46.959 get the usual home games coming out of the first 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:48.880 of the year, which I think, again, what you're gonna 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:50.880 hear a lot from the Warriors. You're gonna hear a 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:54.319 lot from the Warriors. Is gonna be a second half team, 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:55.760 gonna get be a secondf team, gonna be. 0:08:55.920 --> 0:08:56.480 Well, here's the thing. 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:59.600 If you're fifteen and twenty five in the first forty games, 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:03.400 then it ain't gonna matter that you're a second half team. 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:05.200 You're gonna be praying that you could be in the 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:07.120 conversation to be the freaking ten seed. 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:11.000 Now, yeah, I'm not really high on I mean anything 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:13.120 with this team. I mean, yes, they'll still be the 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:15.240 same team that we saw a year ago fighting for 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:16.520 the ninth seed of the ten seed. 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:18.000 The schedule wasn't making it any better. 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:20.280 But just as we talking about earlier with George Kittle 0:09:20.320 --> 0:09:22.640 and you know, playing doctor on the radio, you said, 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:25.200 there's more nationally televised game in the second half, and 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:28.480 that maybe because that's when they're anticipating Jimmy Butler's gonna return. 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:30.360 What do you think, like, what do you expect with 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:33.400 the big injuries Jimmy Butler amoses movie this year? 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:36.480 I put it right in the middle of the year 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:39.640 for both of them, as as it might be, I 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:40.440 don't know that it's. 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:42.599 Gonna be sooner than the middle of the year for 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:44.640 either of them. And again I'm set in the middle. 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:47.000 The middle of the year is basically the one year 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:50.800 mark for Jimmy right if you look at it, January 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:53.800 the twelfth, right now, will will be the warriors forty 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:55.920 first game. Again, it's listed as their thirty ninth game 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:57.959 right now, but they're gonna add to in December because 0:09:57.960 --> 0:10:01.520 of the d season tournament. So the middle point of 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:06.280 the season is January twelfth. I think it's right around there. 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:10.440 And he got hurt what on the nineteenth, I believe 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:10.960 it was. 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:14.120 Yeah, and he's an older player, and I just don't know. 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:17.520 I mean, I think Moody will see I mean, I 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:20.360 think there's a scenario where both could be out till 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:22.360 after the All Star Break. I think there's a scenario 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:25.400 where maybe one or both don't come back at all. 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:27.880 Yeah, and Moody was a Pateeller Tendon, right, Yeah. 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:30.120 I also think there's a scenario where, you know, maybe 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:32.280 they come back a little early, maybe Jimmy comes back 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:32.760 a little early. 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:34.320 But I don't know about this December thing. 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:37.560 That felt to me like that felt to me like 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:44.360 a leak that comes out when you're getting hit from 0:10:44.400 --> 0:10:46.640 a public relations standpoint by the fact that you missed 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:49.080 out on Lebron and didn't really do anything else, and 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:54.200 it's like, oh, Jimmy, give me back my Christmas? Right? 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:56.920 Probably not, Yeah, I don't know if people should be 0:10:56.920 --> 0:10:57.760 too excited about that. 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:01.320 Derek Papa John Diketson. Here, you're at fifty eight Social 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:03.920 outside Oracle Park. Let's catch up with Marcus Thompson and 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:07.480 talk about the Warriors schedule, what's going on with their 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:10.000 off season, and the unfortunate passing of Don Nelson. 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:10.559 He wrote about it. 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:12.920 We'll talk about next on the Sports Leader. 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:17.560 Live from fifty eight Social at Oracle Park. This is 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:22.280 dirty work with Copes and d Pop on the Sports Leader. 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:33.920 Here on these Sports Leader John Dickinson, Derek Papa trying 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:35.400 to make the connection with Marcus Thompson. 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:36.839 We'll see if you do that. Here we get a 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:38.760 five to fifty segment. We do have a five to fifty. 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:41.800 Marcus is busy and he typically is. 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:43.920 Knowing Marcus though he'll call mint segment of Billy, you 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:44.760 guys don't want me anymore? 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:45.360 And what's the deal? 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:49.480 And I and that's where you say five point fifty bro, exactly, 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:51.640 we got you, We got you. So I don't want 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:54.040 to short change Marcus. No, I don't want to They 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:56.480 like my Marcus time. You never know how much Marcus 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:57.680 time you're actually gonna get. 0:11:57.720 --> 0:11:59.520 Exactly, So I do want to make some time. There's 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:00.400 a lot of discuss with him. 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:02.600 So we'll see when we catch up with him, and 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:04.400 if he calls Danny, let me know and we'll figure 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:06.720 out the plan. But yeah, I do want to get 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:09.719 to this real quick. Just talking about the forty nine 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:13.240 ers and preseason, and there was a lot of talk 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:16.400 about Vita Veau maybe being a guy that could pick 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:19.839 up where he's got contract negotiations going on right now. 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:22.200 The Bucks don't want to make him one of the 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:24.640 highest paid defensive tackles in all of football. But Mike 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:29.040 Garrofolo was just on NFL Network talking about Vitavea, and 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:31.839 we hear all the time teams say like, we're not. 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:34.160 Trading this guy. We're not trading this guy. He went. 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:36.280 He just went on NFL Network saying the Bucks do 0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:39.880 not plan on trading vita Vea. But teams have acquired 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:43.880 the Buffalo Bills, the Chicago Bears, and the San Francisco 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:44.760 forty nine ers. 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:46.280 Not surprising, not surprising. 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:50.040 I think that John Lynch always will inquire about a player. 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:54.920 I would rather they say that draft capital, like let's 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:57.000 just say, okay, Vitavea is on the table. 0:12:57.160 --> 0:12:57.720 I think he is. 0:12:57.760 --> 0:12:59.880 I think ultimately the Bucks will budge and they're gonna 0:12:59.880 --> 0:13:03.520 tr him because I think Jason Light views the Buccaneers as, 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:06.000 all right, we're a good team, but are we gonna 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:07.559 be one of the better teams in the NFC. I 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:10.120 think we're more like the team that we know failed 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:12.400 down the stretch when we started six and two and 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:14.400 then we finished eight and nine. He doesn't want to 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:16.520 give Baker Mayfield a contract. He doesn't want to give 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:18.480 a contract to Vita Vea. You know, are we gonna 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:19.880 have to win the NFC South or are we going 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:22.079 to contend with the better teams the NFC. And it 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:24.360 was telling when Mike Evans told him, yeah, thanks for 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:26.440 the contract offer. It's better than the Niners, but I'd 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:29.520 rather go here. So I think that he may listen 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:30.840 to offers, and I won't be at the least bit 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:32.840 surprised that the Niners are like, all right, we may 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:35.520 give you a young defensive tackle in some draft capitol there. 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:38.760 They're trying to slow play it. I think the Buccaneers 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:41.200 are and not come off as desperate. I think you 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:44.600 could make the case the Bucks are in semi shambles 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:47.080 at this point. Like I think they're the team that 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:49.679 thinks that they're still maybe gonna be good, but then 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:54.240 the whole thing completely kareems off the mountain and you 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:58.880 wind up six and eleven and everybody's not not not light, 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:01.839 but Todd, you're a bulls is out and maybe you're 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:04.240 looking at a quarterback change and yeah, and you're you're 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:06.439 kind of in a semi rebuild off of a lot 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:08.400 of veteran guys who have been there for a number 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:10.720 of years. But yeah, I don't think Jason light would 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:12.679 be in trouble necessary. 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:14.439 Now it's one of the better gms and all football. 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:16.880 But but it might be time to retool and looking 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:19.240 to make the move on Vidavea would would give him 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:23.080 an opportunity to more quickly start that process. 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:24.000 Okay, but let me ask you this. 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:27.080 Do you think the Niners possibly getting Max Crosby at 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:29.520 the trade deadline is like a like a Warrior's Giannis 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:30.040 pipe dream? 0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:34.480 No, you think it's realistic. I think it's realistic based. 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:37.240 Off of where the Raiders are at or a new 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:40.120 day in Raider football where they don't care trading him 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:41.240 to the forty nine ers. 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:43.600 It would have to be that. And and well, what's 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:46.920 the one thing that would make that less of a thing? 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:50.800 What do you mean, what's the one thing that would 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:54.240 make the unwillingness to have the Raiders trade somebody to 0:14:54.280 --> 0:15:00.000 the Niners over the topitle? Yes, like what the asking price? 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:02.080 Like you may have to give up a little bit more. 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:04.160 But I think if the forty nine ers believe that 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:08.720 they are in a position to where a Max Crosby 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:13.200 can make them a legitimate Super Bowl contender or get 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:15.520 them on the level of the Rams. And I think 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:17.680 if this thing goes to the trade deadline, the forty 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:20.440 nine ers are can have to prove that in season, right, 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:22.480 They're gonna have to. And I think if the Niners 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:26.000 prove that in season, then the front office would be 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:28.200 more apt to give up more to get that done. 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:33.080 So I think it's unlikely. I still am of the belief, 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:35.520 and I think you are as well that the Raiders 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:38.120 as much as it is Vegas in San Francisco, or 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:40.200 Vegas in the Bay and not Oakland in the Bay 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:42.920 and not La in the Bay or whatever, I do 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:44.320 think some of those things have thoughed. 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:47.240 I still don't think Mark Davis would. 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:50.280 Be real keen on moving Max Crosby to the forty 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:53.120 nine ers and essentially having it be a move that 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:56.040 might lead to Max Crosby being a Super Bowl winner 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:57.360 with the forty nine ers. 0:15:57.360 --> 0:15:59.800 Oh yeah, that would be a monumental move. 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:02.640 Sweetened the pot. Well, that's what's gonna happen. 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:06.040 Is I keep paring Max Proby's not getting del for 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:08.160 two first round picks, and he is getting delt. I 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:10.400 think so, Like I you know, people call me a 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:12.840 Raider Homer still on this show. No, they're not gonna 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:16.000 be a good team this year, Like yeah, yeah me yeah. 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:20.440 But like when I've changed my way, Jad, I'm not. 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:22.480 I'm not living in dying with every Raider outcome. I'd 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:24.960 even watch the preseason game last night. But yeah, like 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:27.280 I think they improved, but I don't think they're gonna 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:29.600 be a good team. I think that they win maybe 0:16:29.640 --> 0:16:32.600 four or five games this year, and then yes they were. 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:35.480 I mean they did trade Max Crosby to the Baltimore Ravens, 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:38.360 and it took Eric Decostak and cold Feet to be 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:40.640 like not take him back, And now Max Crosby's like 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:42.800 I want to be a Raider again. We haven't heard 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:45.040 a lot of John Spytech in the offseason saying like, 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:47.480 you know, this is off the table. I do think 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:49.600 that if you know, they're one and seven or whatever, 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:52.000 their schedule's brutal. By the way, just like they could 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:53.840 win that first game against the Dolphins and they could 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:55.640 lose up until the trade deadline. 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:57.240 I think that they're gonna move him. 0:16:57.280 --> 0:17:00.280 It's gonna be where the Eagles, the Bears, rob with 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:03.080 the Seahawks. Multiple teams are going to be in on 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:06.280 Max Crosby, and then John Lynch, as he always does, 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:08.520 will inquire about it and be like, all right, so 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:10.960 what's gonna take And when he hears Howie Roseman's offering 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:14.399 a first, a second and Nolan Smith or the Bears 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:16.879 are offering this guy in a first round pick, and 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:18.679 John Lynch is like, Okay, you know what, for this 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:20.800 particular player, we got to go over the top here. 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:22.439 I know that Mark Davis does not want to send 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:24.200 him to us, but let's get crazy here. 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:25.879 Let's give you two first round picks. 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:28.119 I think that the Niners are in a position not 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:30.240 light the Rams right now, but for that player, you 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:31.200 got to make that offer. 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:35.280 So you don't think it's a pipe dream. I think that. 0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:42.919 I think it's tough with these two organizations, but agreed, agreed. 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:46.720 I think, as John Middlcoff said to us back in March, 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:49.680 it's a new day and age with the Raiders organization, 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:52.479 and John spy Tech and Tom Brady could go to 0:17:52.520 --> 0:17:55.160