WEBVTT - Can the Giants’ Youth Movement Spark a Turnaround? Tidwell, Eldridge and the Future 0:00:01.200 --> 0:00:02.800 To the faithful. 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:16.560 Sirs too, dub Nation, and to those who bleed orange 0:00:16.600 --> 0:00:17.120 and black. 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:25.000 Good morning. This is Murph and Marcus, Bryan. 0:00:24.800 --> 0:00:29.120 Murphy and Marcus the Waterboy Bouchet streaming live a twitch 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:31.479 dot Tv slash the Sports Leader. 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:39.040 Ah, Good morning, everybody, Happy Wednesday, August fifth. It is 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:42.600 the Murf and Marcus Show, where I believe it is 0:00:42.680 --> 0:00:48.320 now week five of the Brian Murphy vacation Extravaganza. My 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:51.360 guy Murph, I don't think he's worked a full week 0:00:51.800 --> 0:00:55.600 over the last two months. He's off once again on 0:00:55.760 --> 0:00:58.040 the East Coast for the rest of the week. So 0:00:58.160 --> 0:01:00.840 it's my guy JD once again and back in the 0:01:01.160 --> 0:01:05.040 saddle this morning here in Daily City, John Dickinson filling 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:06.600 in for the next couple of days here on the 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:10.039 Morning Show, where of course we are breaking down all 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:13.440 things forty nine ers as we're getting closer and closer 0:01:13.560 --> 0:01:17.839 to the NFL season. We've got some Warriors beef on Twitter, 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:21.720 Kevin Durant versus Klay Thompson and Draymond Green. And of 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:26.320 course we've got your Hagondes who wait for it, got 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:31.120 walked off for a Major League Baseball high tenth time 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:34.839 last season. Oh Jung Ho Lee back on the Warning 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:37.640 Teck can't find the ball, But I found my co 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:38.800 host this morning, JD. 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:40.600 What's up brother? How we doing today? What's going on? 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:40.800 Man? 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:42.920 It's always fun to be with you and great to 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:45.039 be together again here and we will for the next 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:48.800 couple of days. Life goals, Life goals. 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:49.040 Man. 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:53.200 That the Murph vacation plan. Oh, I mean, like I 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:54.520 got to figure that one out. 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:57.360 I mean, you're telling me I've learned a lot in 0:01:57.520 --> 0:02:00.480 my five six years now working on The Warning Show 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:04.200 with Merph. But he will strategically take a vacation day. 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:07.200 I can't remember the last tame who worked a full week. 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:07.560 Now. 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:11.080 I will tell everybody after these three days. He's telling 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:13.160 me at least that he's gonna work the next three weeks, 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:15.160 but I'm not sure how much I believe him. But 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:18.200 we are about three four weeks away from the NFL season, 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:20.400 so he better get his ass back in the studio 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:21.839 for a full time gig. 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:24.200 Because JD, after watching. 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:26.359 Another walk off loss for the Giants last night, I'm 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:28.680 just ready to go full fledge in on the forty 0:02:28.800 --> 0:02:29.120 nine ers. 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:32.160 Moving forward, Yeah, we got some quarterback tiers to get 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:35.400 into as well at some point. And really, I mean, 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:38.600 how often, just to come back to the Giants and 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:41.640 the way that the game ended, how often this season 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:45.240 has one night's hero turned into the next night's goat Yeah, 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:49.359 or even or even that night's hero turns into that 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:53.000 night's goat Allah Willia damas great point going back. I mean, 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:55.519 it's just it's it's unbelievable when you look at you know, 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:59.639 Jung Huli goes double dong on on Monday night and 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:02.959 the get a big win back a logan web in 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:05.440 the midst of all the trade deadline chaos and new 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:08.400 players in the clubhouse and all of that, and then 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:12.280 the next night you have Jung Hulee with a defensive 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:15.359 misqueue on a ball that should have been made, you know, 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:19.080 played should have been made, falls down, stumbles allows after 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:22.720 a nice comeback, a couple of comebacks in that game, 0:03:22.760 --> 0:03:24.640 and Bryce Eldridge coming up with the big base hit 0:03:24.880 --> 0:03:26.560 to tie the game in the top half of the 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:29.720 ninth inning. So there are some young bright spots played 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:33.959 tidwell pitch pretty well after the first inning, and you know, 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:35.760 he's obviously going to be in the mix for a 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:39.480 rotation spot for twenty twenty seven. So some of the 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:42.720 younger players kind of taking the center stage, but one 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:45.680 of the veterans, even a veteran that's been a quality player, 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:49.600 winds up being the player who makes the catastropar. That's 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:51.920 the takeaway from me from last night's game. 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:55.200 It's all about the future moving forward post trade deadline 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:57.560 and the Giants moving a lot of players off the roster, 0:03:57.640 --> 0:04:00.400 a lot of guys getting opportunities. So today's show might 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:03.920 be on the three b's, Bassabe, Bryce and Blade. And 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:06.280 when I'm thinking about three b's, no, I'm not talking 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:09.360 what is it big baller brand, No, we'll leave We'll 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:12.000 leave the ball family out home and talk about Basabe 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:13.839 with the big home run, his third in the last 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:16.920 four games. Bryce Eldridge off the bench, ties the game 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:19.560 also in the ninth. But then we get to jung 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:22.320 Hole and this is something I got to get off 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:23.240 my chest early JD. 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:23.599 Sure. 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:26.440 I'm looking at the official scoring and first it was 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:28.640 rolled a hit, then it was rolled a ground world double. 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:30.880 I hate this. How is that not an air? 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:31.320 Like? 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:33.680 Oh? I get it, because in baseball you have to 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:35.680 touch the ball for it to be an air. Literally, 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:39.640 no scoring rules. I mean, I mean that that is awful. 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:42.840 It's something I've always disagreed with as a former pitcher too. 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:47.200 It used to drive me nut when an autphab were 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:49.200 to take a terrible route. They'd like running on a 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:50.880 fly ball. The ball goes over the head and then 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:52.440 they come back to Doug. I's like, oh, well, that's 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:54.360 not on me. I didn't touch the ball. That's that's 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:56.719 a blanket air. Jung Lee's got to catch that ball. 0:04:57.000 --> 0:04:59.280 I don't know if I'm on an island here by myself, JD. 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:01.760 But and every single way you want to slice it, 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:03.640 whether or not they scored it that way, that's a 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:05.360 ball that Jung Holi can make. 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:08.000 He should have made that play into me. That's an air. Yeah. 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:09.360 And I think if you really want to get into 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:11.840 the minutia of it, maybe there could be a misplay 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:15.400 scoring adjustment where there might be a new category, not 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:17.560 not that has to be listed on the scoreboard or 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:20.680 anything like that. We can go our h e for 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:25.000 the vibes, for the history, for the culture, but maybe 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:27.560 there does need to be some like misplay thing that 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:30.720 can affect earned runs and earned run average and all 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:33.760 those sorts of things. But yeah, it's just I'm with you. 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:36.240 I mean, it winds up in the literal nature because 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:39.240 he didn't touch the ball being a double and a 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:41.880 game winning hit for the Rangers in that one. But 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:45.680 it's just it just it's just been that kind of 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:49.680 freaking season, man, where one guy's hero turns into the 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:53.760 next night's goat, and in ways that you don't even expect. 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:56.880 Because Jung Huli with the move to right field, has 0:05:56.960 --> 0:05:59.720 been has been excellent. Yeah, he's been great to share 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:02.800 it offensively, yeah, And so it's just kind of a bummer. 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:06.360 But the wins and losses at this point don't really 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:09.640 matter as it relates to the Giants. It's more about 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:14.120 the individual performances and more specifically the individual performances of 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:18.760 the young players Tidwell, Basabe and Bryce Eligery. 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:20.360 You had no question about it, and it was nice 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:22.920 to see Bryce Ojic off the bench yesterday after there 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:25.720 was some talk pregame that he would only be available 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:28.240 as a pinch runner dealing with a little bit of 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:30.280 a thumb issue. Sounds like he's got a chance to 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:32.359 be back in the lineup and back at first base today, 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:35.400 and he should be after coming through clutch yesterday, lefty 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:38.680 lefty matchup against one of the best relievers in baseball 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:41.760 who was an All Star this season Lass for the 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:45.200 Texas Rangers. He gets the job done. That's after Basabe 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:47.240 tied the game as well. I don't know if we're 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:49.440 onto something here with Basabe, but three Horme runs in 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:52.560 the first four games. It's the type of production you 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:54.799 want to see from one of these young guys getting 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:57.840 the opportunity because JD there's gonna be a ton of 0:06:57.920 --> 0:07:01.280 opportunities moving forward, not just in the lineup, but also 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:04.799 in that rotation. And Blade Tidwell yesterday making his first 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:07.440 start as a member of the San Francisco Giants, now 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:10.520 not his big league debut, made a couple starts last 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:13.640 year in the Mets organization before he was traded over 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:16.160 in the Tyler Rogers trade. We saw him earlier this 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:18.440 year when he made his Giants debut and got a 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:21.400 save in his first outing. The three inning saved, the 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:24.400 rare save that you don't see too often, and I 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:27.000 was really hoping he'd have a chance to I don't 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:29.880 know if this has happened before, get a save in 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:32.760 his first appearance and a win in his first start, 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:35.640 did not get the win, did not factor into the decision. 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:38.200 Dylan Smith got the loss last night, but I gotta 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:41.080 say pretty good outing from Blade Tidwell to settle in 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:44.640 after a bit of a rocky first inning thirty two pitches, 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:47.960 is able to get through five innings yesterday, two earned runs, 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:50.800 three strikeouts on the day, got nine whifs on the slider, 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:53.320 and he's one of those guys that's looking to take 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:56.520 advantage of all these openings in a rotation after trading 0:07:56.520 --> 0:07:57.920 away Robbie Ray and Tyler Mallech. 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:00.000 And I think the type of picture that can provide 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:02.840 I had an element that the Giants haven't had in 0:08:03.000 --> 0:08:05.320 terms of, you know, maybe somebody with a little bit 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:07.920 more swing and miss stuff. And I think we've seen 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:11.560 Carson wizen Hunt come up and yes, up and down. 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:14.760 He started great, and it hasn't pitched as well as 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:16.880 time has gone on here at the big league level. 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:19.680 But he's also somebody that gets a lot of swing 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:24.000 and miss and has you know, special a specialty pitch 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:25.880 that will allow him to get that. So those are 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:29.200 sort of the nuanced things that you focus on here. 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:31.600 With less than a couple of months now, to go 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:34.320 in the season. But let's just keep it a buck. 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:39.160 I mean, the Giants have three rotation spots open, yeah, 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:41.079 twenty twenty seven. Not that they're all going to be 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:44.000 filled by any you know, anybody or everybody that's currently 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:47.920 on the roster to finish up twenty twenty six. But 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:50.280 a big part of the equation, now that the Giants 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:52.720 have made the moves that they did at the deadline, 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:55.199 part of it is, we talked to Zach Managin about it, 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:58.880 You're opening up opportunities for others to come up and 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:03.080 essentially audition at the major league level. And yeah, tid 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:06.240 Well had been in the big leagues with the Mats 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:10.160 and the Giants obviously previously, but he gets really the 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:13.480 first opportunity to audition. And I'm with you, I think 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:15.080 he was pretty solid overall. 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:18.000 Yeah, And I think when you are looking towards twenty 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:21.080 twenty seven, twenty twenty eight, hopefully if there is baseball 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:23.040 in the near future, you start thinking about what that 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:25.679 rotation could look like. If it is logan web, I 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:27.599 say you would pencil and land and roup as that 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:30.640 second option. Right now, Trevor McDonald is now having surgery 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:33.439 on his elbow, so he had an opportunity early this year. 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:35.640 You're looking at Tidwell, Carson Wizard, Hunt will get the 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:38.920 start today. Maybe we see a tug boat Matt Wilkinson 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:42.760 some point soon in San Francisco. All those options are 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:46.800 on the table. After the Giants traded away six members 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:49.880 off the active roster, and a bunch of them made 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:53.520 their new debuts. Yesterday saw Eric Miller getting out in 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:55.800 the sixth inning for the Boston Red Sox one and 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:59.440 done as a lefty specialist. Elliott Ramos was hitting clean 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:03.560 up yesterday in pinstripes, even though he forgot to button 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:06.040 up his bottom buttons. His belly was hanging out the 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:08.600 Elie Ramas over four hitting clean up with the Yankees. 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:12.240 Luisa Rice already making an impact with the Philadelphia Phillies, 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:14.959 had an RBI single and an RBI double in his 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:17.920 first two at bats. So you're seeing some Giants players 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:21.880 already have some success, but also some new debuts around 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:24.319 the league. How about Scooble getting his first start with 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:27.400 the Dodgers last night and the Dodgers taking an l 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:30.080 A lot of talk right now about how the Dodgers 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:33.760 have ruined baseball. There was actually a plane flying a 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:38.280 banner over Wriggley yesterday that said the Dodgers ruined baseball. Well, 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:42.079 they've now lost five straight games, their biggest losing streak 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:44.679 of the season. It was nice to see Scooball and 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:47.079 the Dodgers get knocked around last night in one of 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:48.240 the biggest stories in baseball. 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:51.439 Jd Yeah, in a playoff like atmosphere at Wrigley and 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:53.319 the Cubs had a little something for him. This is 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:56.600 not the same Cubs team that the Giants faced going 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:59.559 back to June. The Cubs we were pretty awful, I 0:10:59.679 --> 0:11:02.080 felt in the six games they played against the Giants 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:04.719 compared to the team that they've actually become. So much 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:07.480 of baseball is when do you play teams? But if 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:09.959 you had told me that this Cubs team in the 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:12.959 first week of August would be doing what they've done 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:14.760 to the Dodgers in the first two games of that 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:17.959 series at Wrigley Field, based on what we saw in 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:20.120 the head to head matchups that I think were split 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:22.160 three and three between the Giants and the Cubs. But 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:24.920 Giants could have won five of those games, if not 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:26.160 all six of those games. 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:28.120 Yeah, And that's when I was drinking beers out on 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:31.160 the bleachers at Wrigley that day. They put up eighteen runs. 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:34.559 But JD surprise, surprise. Even in that series, I saw 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:37.280 a walkoff loss from the Giants PCA with the walk 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:39.560 off one of the ten that the Giants have suffered the. 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:42.679 Seas as she did in a blown save with the 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:46.000 game tying home run as well, And so yeah, the 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:49.360 Cubs able to get the win there, and they were 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:51.760 able to split the six games head to head despite 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:53.679 the fact that, again the Giants were highly competitive. So 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:56.640 when you play teams matters again, this isn't that Cubs team. 0:11:57.120 --> 0:11:59.480 But yeah, how about the Dodgers a little bit? Is 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:03.760 it karma? Is it? Is it karma? Marcus? I'd like 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:06.040 to think it's karma or are they just getting it 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:06.800 out of the way now? 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:07.360 Yeah? 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:10.360 Yeah, I mean, I mean there are dog days of August. Yeah, 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:10.920 I mean, it's. 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:13.200 Almost like they're at the point where like they're kind 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:14.800 of like the kensit the Chiefs where they can kind 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:17.000 of just play with their food during the regular season 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:19.320 and then they're gonna turn it on during the postseason. 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:21.320 I don't know, but you're right, last night did feel 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:24.200 like a postseason environment out at Wrigley. 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:26.760 I hated that turn that term. It doesn't come up 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:29.160 anymore obviously because of the where the Warriors are at, 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:32.880 but there was nothing, and I know folks in the 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:34.800 Bay loved it because it was the Warriors and they 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:38.160 had the I used to I hated that. Play with 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:38.760 your food. 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:42.599 Yeah, just play with your food from it on the 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:44.480 third quarter and you'll be alrighty ah. 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:46.920 That's so disrespectful, even if it is the whole team. 0:12:47.080 --> 0:12:49.959 Yeah. Well, Jad, I want to make sure you're not 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:53.520 rewriting history about the Warriors playing with their food, because 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:55.760 there's there's a lot of rewriting of history going on. 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:58.839 Kevin Durant getting into it on social media with Klay 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:01.760 Thompson and Draymond Green yesterday. That's a topic that we 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:04.640 can dive back into, and Jad, you mentioned it. QB 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:08.360 Tears are out its football season Hall of Fame game 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:11.240 tomorrow night, and then one week from tomorrow, forty nine 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:14.199 ers are taken on Mike Holders Tennessee Titans. So a 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:16.800 lot to dive into with the forty nine ers injury 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:20.520 port with the Giants, Triple B's in action last night, 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:24.199 Blade Tedwell, Bassab and Bryce Eldridge trying to have a 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:28.120 comeback effort before Jung Ho Lee misplays the ball on 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:31.079 the warning track. Once again, the Giants walked off for 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:35.280 a MLB high tenth time this season. Eight away cambre 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:38.600 is the number if you had any positive or negative 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:41.319 takeaways from last night's game. We'll break it down all 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:44.880 day long as we get you closer to an eleven 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:48.559 thirty five. First pitch today out in Texas, Giants will 0:13:48.600 --> 0:13:50.760 try to win this series on the road, but so 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:52.640 many things to get into. We got the guesses coming 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:55.360 up from Wall on the other side. Good guesses today 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:58.760 with a bunch of topics that dive into. It's Marcus 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:00.959 Bouchet and John Dickson and filling in from IRF on 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:02.080 the Sports Leader. 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:07.120 Now back to murphin Markets on the Sports Leader, streaming 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:11.079 live on the sports Leader dot com at knbr V 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:13.120 sports Leader app. 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:18.560 The two to two pitch, a swing and a fly 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:21.080 ball right field, moving back on at least still on 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:22.080 the move going. 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:25.120 Back, reaches out, he can't make the catch as he 0:14:25.280 --> 0:14:28.760 falls to the ground. It bounces off the warning track 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:32.760 and up over the wall and the Rangers will walk 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:33.240 it off. 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:34.920 Here at the bottom of the ninth. 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:36.160 Five to four. 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:43.280 Ah the sights and sunds of Jung hou Lee having 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:46.720 a bad ninth inning yesterday after being. 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:48.640 The hero just a couple of days ago with two 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:49.360 home runs. 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:53.360 Let's a ball drop for a ground world double was 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:58.200 the official scoring. The Texas Rangers walk off the Giants 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:02.880 once again. The are walking off disappointment, and I gotta 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:05.400 say I'm disappointing with the tech sign already coming at 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:08.000 me earlier this morning. Surprise surprise, that is, of course 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:10.440 the Golden Saint Lumber and Showroom tech Ligne eight one 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:13.720 to eight says, come on, guys, there's no rule in 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:17.240 the official rules book that a player has to touch 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:19.280 the ball for it to be an air. And I'm like, look, 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:22.720 I'm not arguing with the official rule book. I'm just 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:25.800 giving my own take as a former pitcher, as somebody 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:29.640 gets pissed off when somebody overplays a ball or has 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:32.320 a bad route. Nine two five says, as somebody who 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:35.600 is as somebody who cost our pitcher a no hitter 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:38.280 in high school. I agree with you, Marcus. I misjudge. 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:40.200 They play ball and I ran in the ball saled 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:42.520 right over my head. But I'm blaming the coaching. Not 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:44.800 sure if we can blame Tony Vaytelo on this one. 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:47.560 I'm just blaming Jung Ho Lee for a bad read 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:51.160 and a bad ending for what was a pretty entertaining 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:55.440 game by the young Hagantes battling back multiple times. I 0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:58.760 stand by my take. Whether or not the official scores 0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:01.200 book a grease with JD. I think that's an error 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:01.640 in my book. 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:04.720 Yeah, and look it's it's the written or unwritten rules 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:08.400 of scoring. It's not the official you know, Major League 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:12.560 Baseball rule book in play here, so we can debate it. 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:15.840 But yeah, it was. It was a misplay clearly that 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:18.640 winds up costing the Giants an opportunity to get the 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:21.720 extra innings and and maybe pull off what would have 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:26.280 been again on August fifth, now one of the better 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:28.000 wins of the year. For all the games the Giants 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:31.840 have lost and walk off fashion and you've laid out 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:34.400 it's league leading and all that's too many to count. 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:36.360 I've lost count. I think you mentioned the number that 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:38.920 I had already forgotten because I'm just omitting it from memory. 0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:41.480 Ten a ten A blank in ten. They've been walked 0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:44.680 off ten times. But it just doesn't. I know, they've 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:46.640 had a couple of walkoffs, but they just have not 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:49.480 had the comebacks the walk off Like, they have not 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:54.160 had anywhere close to the level of heartbreaking losses in 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:56.880 comparison to the feel good wins. I know, the Bryce 0:16:56.920 --> 0:16:59.480 Eldritch Grand Slam and the big comeback is the one 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:03.160 that stands out. But really other than that, like, have 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:07.960 they absolutely thieved another game all year? 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:08.560 No? 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:10.960 Not really, not middle in one. 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:11.200 No. 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:13.119 Have they had a couple of walkoffs. 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:16.000 Yeah, they've had the Bryce Odridge Grand Slam oracle where 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:17.800 they battle back what was eight to one or ten 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:18.520 to one, whatever the. 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:21.480 Hell was nine to one in the eighth. Yeah, the 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:22.840 battled all the way back. 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:24.920 But yeah, it's been one of the glaring issues for 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:29.040 the Giants this year, seventh, eighth, and ninth innings offensively, 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:30.800 and then you look at the bullpen and the problems 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:33.320 that they've had. Obviously, it's been a huge issue, and 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:35.160 it leads to the fact of why they're now forty 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:36.520 eight and sixty six on the season. 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:38.359 And then in a couple of these instances where they 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:41.680 have had comebacks, whether it's last night with Bryce Eldridge 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:43.520 able to get the base hit to tie the game 0:17:43.640 --> 0:17:45.560 or a Damas sitting a home run to tie the game. 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:49.399 They've tied the game and then gone on to to 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:52.280 get walked off on in a couple of those instances. 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:54.960 Even going back to the weekend in Chicago that we 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:58.240 talked about, they ended up getting a big late inning 0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:02.280 hit a couple of them, and then immediately PCA does 0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:05.280 him in there. So it's just more of a watchability, 0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:09.879 maddeningly frustrating type of a point than anything at this 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:12.720 stage really matters in terms of obviously the wins and 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:15.919 losses because it's all about development. But Giants fans are 0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:17.720 really taking it on the chin this year when it 0:18:17.800 --> 0:18:20.840 comes to not having a lot of those special moments 0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:23.600 but then also really getting gut punch after gut punch 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:25.480 after gut punch off on the L side. 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:28.680 And it seems like that misplay by Jung Ho League 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:31.679 kind of sums up the Giants twenty twenty six season 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:35.200 hashtag nothing like it There truly is nothing like what 0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:36.680 we've seen from this team this year. 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:39.680 But hey, we are in the memory making business. As 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:40.880 bus or Posey told. 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:43.280 Us, that's definitely going to be a play that I 0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:46.119 remember but maybe we should just move on because to 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:49.199 your point, JD, who cares about wins and losses at 0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:52.080 this point they're forty eight and sixty six. There were 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:55.080 eighteen games under five hundred on the day of the 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:58.080 trade deadline, which led to bus Or Posey making some 0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:01.119 I don't want to call him toughnesss hell. They are 0:19:01.160 --> 0:19:03.640 decisions that we talked about for a couple months leading 0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:04.800 up to the trade deadline. JD. 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:07.320 Yeah, they made the moves that needed to be made 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:09.879 among the players that are going to be you know, 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:12.920 expiring deals and free agents here coming up. They also 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:16.160 make the Elliott Ramos deal, a player with some team 0:19:16.240 --> 0:19:19.879 control left, and they're setting up the future in particular, 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:23.680 they're setting up their pitching future in a major way. 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:29.440 So now it becomes about development and opportunity for some 0:19:29.560 --> 0:19:33.240 new players that haven't had that as much for this year. 0:19:33.720 --> 0:19:37.080 A lah Blade didwell. Who were watching run back here 0:19:37.760 --> 0:19:40.399 his first start and first inning currently as we do 0:19:40.480 --> 0:19:43.120 the show, Yeah, Blade tib well last night, Carson wasn't 0:19:43.119 --> 0:19:45.960 on today. Some guys that are looking to grasp onto 0:19:46.040 --> 0:19:49.040 those opportunities and maybe take a hold of one of 0:19:49.080 --> 0:19:52.680 these spots in the starting rotation next season to show 0:19:52.720 --> 0:19:56.040 buster posey in the front office what they have. But 0:19:56.160 --> 0:19:56.879 I know what we have. 0:19:57.080 --> 0:20:00.440 That's a guest is today, Walter, Q up those horns, 0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:04.720 turn on that microphone, Walter, give me that guest list. 0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:07.440 And of course this is the guest list on the 0:20:07.520 --> 0:20:11.000 Murphy Market show that is sponsored by El Crito Honda. 0:20:11.520 --> 0:20:15.800 More than just a car dealership. We're family, aren't we, Walter? 0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:17.160 We're family? What's up, brother? 0:20:17.200 --> 0:20:20.480 How we do family moment? Proud dad moment. I'm proud 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:22.639 that you got that reading before I had to ask you. 0:20:22.760 --> 0:20:23.440 I know, look at me. 0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:28.159 I'm so responsible, even with Murph on vacation. Now, I 0:20:28.280 --> 0:20:30.800 know Murph and I have gone back and forth about 0:20:30.880 --> 0:20:33.960 the technicalities of whether or not a misread on a 0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:36.640 fly ball is an air or not. Walter, what's your 0:20:36.760 --> 0:20:41.720 take on the Jung Holy misplay? Should that be credited 0:20:41.840 --> 0:20:43.760 as a hit or should that go in the book 0:20:43.760 --> 0:20:44.160 as an air? 0:20:44.240 --> 0:20:46.560 Absolutely error? I mean, I mean, come on, what are 0:20:46.600 --> 0:20:47.080 we talking about? 0:20:47.080 --> 0:20:49.639 If you misplay the ball and it's on you, like, 0:20:49.760 --> 0:20:52.280 I don't know what else has to constitute for it 0:20:52.359 --> 0:20:53.040 to be an error. 0:20:53.119 --> 0:20:55.840 See, that's why we are family, just like El Sirito. 0:20:55.920 --> 0:20:58.080 Walter, we're on the same page, all right, give me 0:20:58.119 --> 0:21:00.800 to that guest list, because I feel like we might 0:21:00.880 --> 0:21:03.440 have somebody who played in last night's game on this 0:21:03.560 --> 0:21:04.000 guest list. 0:21:04.160 --> 0:21:05.560 Walter, what have we got lined up today? 0:21:05.600 --> 0:21:07.760 We do, so let's get to it. First thing on 0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:09.520 the guest list today, we got the Worldwide of Walt. 0:21:09.520 --> 0:21:11.119 We're gonna ask you some questions. I think this is 0:21:11.200 --> 0:21:13.240 JD's second time, or it might be his first time 0:21:13.280 --> 0:21:14.560 in the World World of Walt. 0:21:15.040 --> 0:21:17.440 First time, so your first time in that you always 0:21:17.440 --> 0:21:18.120 remember your first time. 0:21:18.200 --> 0:21:20.840 You never forget your first And I love the fact 0:21:20.840 --> 0:21:23.600 that Walter announces himself as the first guest on the 0:21:23.680 --> 0:21:24.760 guest list, of course. 0:21:24.640 --> 0:21:26.600 As it should always be. As it should be, I 0:21:26.680 --> 0:21:29.920 always am on the guest list at twenty eight. So anyways, 0:21:30.040 --> 0:21:31.879 that is at seven point fifteen, and then we go 0:21:32.119 --> 0:21:34.680 follow that up with Mike Kruco at seven. 0:21:34.600 --> 0:21:37.400 Thirty looking forward to breaking down Blade Tidwell's performance last 0:21:37.480 --> 0:21:39.760 night with Mike Kruco and some of these opportunities in 0:21:39.840 --> 0:21:41.440 the starting rotation and in the bullpen. 0:21:41.520 --> 0:21:44.239 Moving forward, switch the conversation over to Finer forty nine 0:21:44.359 --> 0:21:46.800 ers training camp. We'll talk to Matt Barrow's at eight 0:21:46.840 --> 0:21:47.280 to fifteen. 0:21:47.600 --> 0:21:48.240 I got a film. 0:21:48.280 --> 0:21:51.440 We're going to talk about injuries, injuries and injuries with 0:21:51.600 --> 0:21:54.639 Matt Barrows at eight fifteen this morning, Walter. And then 0:21:54.680 --> 0:21:57.400 we got the Cooler of content at eight thirty. Good 0:21:57.440 --> 0:21:59.360 stuff in the cooler of content. Like I said, we've 0:21:59.400 --> 0:22:02.280 got some sound from Kevin Durant comparing the twenty seventeen 0:22:02.400 --> 0:22:07.000 Warriors to the twenty twenty seven twenty twenty six Philadelphia Sixers. 0:22:07.240 --> 0:22:08.480 That's a topic we can dive into. 0:22:08.640 --> 0:22:10.800 And then you mentioned talking Blade Tidwell with Mike Kruco 0:22:10.840 --> 0:22:13.439 at seven thirty, Well, why not talk to him himself 0:22:13.600 --> 0:22:17.600 at nine to fifteen Blade Tidwell from the Mound at 0:22:17.680 --> 0:22:18.240 nine to fifteen. 0:22:18.320 --> 0:22:20.800 How about Blade Tidwell making his first start as a 0:22:20.920 --> 0:22:23.639 member of the San Francisco Giants last night and now getting. 0:22:23.400 --> 0:22:27.040 His first interview on the Murph and Marcus Show. How 0:22:27.080 --> 0:22:28.200 about that? It's JD. 0:22:28.359 --> 0:22:30.920 Filling and from MRF will continue some of these trade 0:22:30.960 --> 0:22:34.600 deadline discussions. Next, react to the big picture that Buster 0:22:34.680 --> 0:22:37.879 Posey is building before we get into some Warriors, forty 0:22:37.960 --> 0:22:40.560 nine ers and the wide world of Walt talk. 0:22:40.680 --> 0:22:42.200 At seven fifteen. JD. 0:22:42.359 --> 0:22:44.679 And Marcus back on the morning show on The Sports 0:22:44.720 --> 0:22:46.880 Leader KNBR. 0:22:46.280 --> 0:22:50.119 The Sports Leader Now back to murphin markets on the 0:22:50.920 --> 0:22:54.880 Sports Leader, streaming live on the sports Leader dot com 0:22:55.040 --> 0:22:58.440 at KNBR The Sports Leader. 0:22:58.320 --> 0:23:02.240 App Yeah, I don't know. 0:23:02.359 --> 0:23:05.080 I guess you can characterize it with how you want. 0:23:05.119 --> 0:23:07.560 I wouldn't necessarily say a rebuild. I mean, obviously we 0:23:07.680 --> 0:23:10.760 moved some some six major league players off of our 0:23:10.840 --> 0:23:15.520 roster today. I guess the messages is we're not satisfied 0:23:15.640 --> 0:23:18.480 with the way that we've played this year, in the 0:23:18.560 --> 0:23:20.879 last few years, and we're trying everything we can to 0:23:22.200 --> 0:23:25.200 to continue to build a product that that we can 0:23:25.240 --> 0:23:28.560 all be, you know, excited to come and watch. 0:23:28.640 --> 0:23:29.960 And that was really the goal. 0:23:30.200 --> 0:23:32.720 And this is can we even if we have to 0:23:32.760 --> 0:23:36.520 subtract a little bit now, can we potentially add some 0:23:36.600 --> 0:23:38.280 players that we think our fans are going to be 0:23:38.359 --> 0:23:41.000 excited about and hopefully wear a Giant's uniform for a 0:23:41.080 --> 0:23:41.480 long time. 0:23:43.880 --> 0:23:47.400 Don't call it a rebuild, don't call it a comeback, 0:23:47.800 --> 0:23:48.639 as L. L. 0:23:48.840 --> 0:23:50.760 Coole J Will tell you on the Rejoin. 0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:53.879 Even though the Giants almost came back like last night 0:23:53.920 --> 0:23:56.880 in Texas, ended up getting walked off again and of course, 0:23:56.920 --> 0:23:59.840 that was the voice of bus Or Posey talking about 0:24:00.080 --> 0:24:04.280 the new look Giants roster after trading away six players 0:24:05.080 --> 0:24:08.720 off the active roster before this year's MLB trade deadline, 0:24:09.000 --> 0:24:12.680 which led to multiple new faces in the lineup. Last night, 0:24:13.040 --> 0:24:16.040 Basabe once again at the top of the order, saw 0:24:16.240 --> 0:24:19.520 Leonard over at shortstop, Grant McCrae back in the outfield, 0:24:19.560 --> 0:24:22.879 Christian Cost. Kind of a cast of misfits in this 0:24:23.040 --> 0:24:26.000 Giants lineup, but those were some of the moves that 0:24:26.119 --> 0:24:29.040 the Giants had to make after I don't know if 0:24:29.080 --> 0:24:32.240 you want to call it a rebuild JD. Maybe a retooling, 0:24:32.440 --> 0:24:36.880 maybe a reshuffling. Definitely a reshuffling of the Giants farm 0:24:36.960 --> 0:24:39.240 system and some of the top prospects that got back 0:24:39.280 --> 0:24:41.520 in this trade hall. But any way you want to 0:24:41.560 --> 0:24:44.560 slice it, Buster Posey was a seller at this year's 0:24:44.600 --> 0:24:47.639 trade deadline. What was your message that you got from Buster? 0:24:48.200 --> 0:24:51.879 Yeah, I mean it, it's a rebuild of the future 0:24:51.880 --> 0:24:54.480 of the pitching staff, I think in the pitching depth, 0:24:54.640 --> 0:24:56.920 I do think you could characterize it as a rebuild 0:24:57.280 --> 0:25:00.359 in that vein, although the Giants obviously don't want to 0:25:00.480 --> 0:25:05.720 use that word. I agree with with Andy Baggerly who said, hey, 0:25:05.920 --> 0:25:08.679 it's not a fire sale because they couldn't get rid 0:25:08.720 --> 0:25:10.920 of any of the bad contracts that they wanted to 0:25:11.720 --> 0:25:14.240 know or were open minded to probably a better way 0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:17.560 of saying it. And they didn't look to trade Logan 0:25:17.600 --> 0:25:20.760 Web or Jung Hulee. And so I think, you know, again, 0:25:20.880 --> 0:25:24.879 maybe we're mincing words there as to what it matters, 0:25:24.960 --> 0:25:28.800 but I think they tried to add a in essence, 0:25:28.840 --> 0:25:31.000 do the bare minimum right. They moved all the guys 0:25:31.040 --> 0:25:33.920 that were going to be free agents for pieces that 0:25:34.080 --> 0:25:37.440 fit into the future, and then they create opportunities for 0:25:37.560 --> 0:25:40.000 others to step in and be evaluated between now and 0:25:40.000 --> 0:25:42.919 the end of the regular season, and then they're going 0:25:43.000 --> 0:25:46.119 to look and see how close or far they are 0:25:46.200 --> 0:25:49.359 away from being able to build a team that can 0:25:49.400 --> 0:25:52.720 potentially be competitive if there is a two thousand and 0:25:52.880 --> 0:25:55.520 twenty seven season. So I think they're trying to thread 0:25:56.240 --> 0:25:59.280 a needle that might prove to be too difficult in 0:25:59.440 --> 0:26:02.800 terms of wanting to be competitive to the extent that 0:26:02.920 --> 0:26:06.359 they can next year, while also shuffling in a lot 0:26:06.400 --> 0:26:09.359 of ways based on not only the moves at the deadline, 0:26:09.440 --> 0:26:12.040 but the draft picks. Going back to the middle of 0:26:12.160 --> 0:26:15.120 July and the players that are already making their way 0:26:15.560 --> 0:26:18.359 up the Giants minor league system, in particular at the 0:26:18.480 --> 0:26:21.520 lower levels that are starting to come up, So that 0:26:21.800 --> 0:26:26.800 part screams rebuild. But I was having this conversation earlier 0:26:26.840 --> 0:26:29.920 in the week. You look at the lineup for next year, 0:26:29.960 --> 0:26:32.639 There's still gonna be a lot of veterans that are 0:26:32.840 --> 0:26:37.200 that are penciled in for next year. So I wouldn't 0:26:37.280 --> 0:26:40.400 call it a complete youth movement unless somebody really earns 0:26:40.480 --> 0:26:42.359 the opportunity here over the last two months. 0:26:42.440 --> 0:26:44.159 Yeah, I mean you're looking at this lineup right now 0:26:44.359 --> 0:26:47.240 and you expect to see Daniel Sussak back behind home 0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:49.760 plate next year and Jung Huli out in the alphiel. 0:26:50.119 --> 0:26:53.480 Yeah, I mean it seems like he's Yeah, I don't 0:26:53.480 --> 0:26:55.080 think they know that. I don't think they know who 0:26:55.119 --> 0:26:56.720 their starting catcher is. Interesting. 0:26:56.800 --> 0:26:58.960 Yeah, we have both Kruk and Kipe on earlier this 0:26:59.080 --> 0:27:01.440 week and they said that they're looking at Daniel Sussack 0:27:01.560 --> 0:27:03.960 as the catcher of the future. Now, things can change 0:27:04.000 --> 0:27:06.520 pretty quickly. We saw how great Daniel Sussack was in 0:27:06.600 --> 0:27:08.240 his first twenty four at Bets. That led to the 0:27:08.280 --> 0:27:10.639 Patrick Bailey trade, then struggled a little bit with that 0:27:10.720 --> 0:27:12.800 elbow injury, but I thought he's looked pretty well behind 0:27:12.880 --> 0:27:13.280 him plays. 0:27:13.320 --> 0:27:13.960 I think that's I. 0:27:13.960 --> 0:27:15.879 Mean, I think it's fair to say that that's the 0:27:15.960 --> 0:27:20.080 plan right now. Yeah, Yeah, I'd say sussak in pencil 0:27:20.160 --> 0:27:22.320 as one of these players. You look at the players 0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:25.360 that are going to be written in with penn or Sharpie. Yeah, 0:27:25.440 --> 0:27:28.240 the guys you're stuck with, You're Rafael Devers, You're Willie 0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:30.560 Domas who has been dealing with that back injury all year. 0:27:30.920 --> 0:27:33.200 Matt Chapman, who you might not see back in the 0:27:33.280 --> 0:27:35.879 lineup again this year. Got some news yesterday before the 0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:39.200 game from Tony Vitello that Matt Chapman is flying out 0:27:39.240 --> 0:27:41.840 the Philadelphia not to be traded to the Phillies with 0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:44.920 Luisa Rise, but he's gonna go see a specialist and 0:27:45.160 --> 0:27:48.479 surgery is a possibility, and there's a chance that Matt 0:27:48.600 --> 0:27:51.520 Chapman doesn't play again this season. Kind Of a weird 0:27:51.600 --> 0:27:54.439 story there, with an injury that wasn't taken too serious 0:27:54.600 --> 0:27:57.280 at first, at least from our perspective. Now, it sounds 0:27:57.320 --> 0:27:59.480 like Matt Chapman might be shut down for the regular season, 0:27:59.680 --> 0:28:02.000 but of course, he's one of those three contracts that 0:28:02.200 --> 0:28:05.080 is stuck in sharpie in your lineup next year, moving 0:28:05.119 --> 0:28:08.280 forward and for the foreseeable future. So big picture, the 0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:10.440 point I'm making here is JD, You're still gonna have 0:28:10.600 --> 0:28:14.040 five or six guys from this year's current roster maybe 0:28:14.119 --> 0:28:16.400 in the lineup next year. It's about trying to fill 0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:19.000 out the remainder of the roster and figure out those 0:28:19.000 --> 0:28:20.159 pieces that you can move forward with. 0:28:20.280 --> 0:28:22.720 And I don't necessarily know that the Giants are gonna 0:28:23.240 --> 0:28:27.120 hand those roster spots for twenty twenty seven to younger players. 0:28:27.560 --> 0:28:30.359 Maybe they do. Maybe maybe there are a couple of 0:28:30.440 --> 0:28:32.840 players that they get a look at between now and 0:28:33.320 --> 0:28:36.200 over the final two months that that put themselves in 0:28:36.280 --> 0:28:40.720 the conversation, But I don't know among the young players. 0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:43.959 And I think you're probably right and everybody's probably right 0:28:44.080 --> 0:28:47.680 on Sussak. I mean, he'll get the opportunity, you know, 0:28:47.840 --> 0:28:50.560 probably at the beginning of next year in Eldridge, But 0:28:50.760 --> 0:28:54.480 that that still leaves I think, what two or three spots. 0:28:54.560 --> 0:28:55.760 I mean, if you want to, you want to go 0:28:55.880 --> 0:28:57.840 around the horn, I mean, they you know, it is 0:28:58.080 --> 0:29:00.360 Casey Schmidt just going to be the second basement next year. 0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:01.920 I don't think we know the answer to that question. 0:29:02.120 --> 0:29:04.800 Yeah, I think you pencil him in as a utility guy, 0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:06.840 but I'm not sure what position you're putting him at 0:29:06.880 --> 0:29:08.120 next year to start right. 0:29:08.080 --> 0:29:11.040 And he's he's a younger or a player kind of 0:29:11.160 --> 0:29:13.600 entering his prime that I produced, and I would say 0:29:13.640 --> 0:29:18.320 he did earn the opportunity to be put in penn somewhere. 0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:21.040 Yeah, and whether that's at second base or left field, 0:29:21.200 --> 0:29:24.920 which is kind of ironic after Elliott Ramos became the 0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:27.440 first man to start back to back seasons and left 0:29:27.480 --> 0:29:29.840 field since Barry Bonds, he gets shipped out and maybe 0:29:29.880 --> 0:29:32.640 there's a new streak starting up with a different left 0:29:32.640 --> 0:29:33.800 fielder every opening day. 0:29:33.920 --> 0:29:35.560 Yeah, So I think if you pencil it out, I 0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:37.520 think it's fair. Like I said to put Sussack there, 0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:40.960 Dever's an Eldridge or first base DH right, we know 0:29:41.120 --> 0:29:45.320 that second base I feel like is an open spot 0:29:45.520 --> 0:29:48.360 and a question mark. Maybe it's Casey Schmidt, maybe it's not. 0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:53.600 I think Adamas and Chapman pencil at shortstop and third. 0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:56.120 Now maybe a Damas becomes second and you look at 0:29:56.200 --> 0:29:59.640 somebody else at shortstop there, maybe Casey Schmid's and left. 0:30:00.400 --> 0:30:03.920 All that being said, they do have I think three 0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:09.440 spots that are up for sure at second base and 0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:12.040 the outfield, and I think the center field, leftfield, centerfield. 0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:15.920 So it's and are those spots gonna go to young 0:30:16.040 --> 0:30:20.080 players next year? I don't think we necessarily know that. 0:30:20.680 --> 0:30:23.760 If the Giants are gonna be intent on trying to 0:30:23.840 --> 0:30:26.160 be as competitive as possible for next year. 0:30:26.280 --> 0:30:28.720 Yeah, And I think that's what the remainder of the 0:30:28.840 --> 0:30:32.040 season is all about, is seeing what you have. And 0:30:32.280 --> 0:30:35.640 I know there's gonna be some interesting decisions to be made, 0:30:35.840 --> 0:30:37.440 whether or not they do call it a guy like 0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:39.560 Bo Davidson and if they want to put him on 0:30:39.600 --> 0:30:41.920 the forty man roster, but that could also lead to 0:30:42.040 --> 0:30:45.120 some problems next year if there's a potential lockout. Gonna 0:30:45.120 --> 0:30:47.280 be an interesting strategy to see if they maybe want 0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:49.480 to keep some of these younger guys in the minor 0:30:49.560 --> 0:30:51.640 league system so that they don't have to deal with 0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:54.080 the effects of the lockout. But I think all options 0:30:54.080 --> 0:30:56.880 should be on the table, because after trading away six 0:30:57.000 --> 0:30:59.760 active players from your major league roster, that's what we're 0:30:59.800 --> 0:31:01.920 doing here, That's why we're still watching. That's why we're 0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:04.440 still paying attention, Like we've even got people checking in 0:31:04.520 --> 0:31:06.520 this morning on the text on saying look, guys, I 0:31:06.600 --> 0:31:09.160 don't really care about the results or what the Giants 0:31:09.240 --> 0:31:12.880 record is, but I was at least entertained last night 0:31:13.160 --> 0:31:16.080 and encouraged a little bit by seeing Basab hit his 0:31:16.200 --> 0:31:18.400 third home run in the last four games, or seeing 0:31:18.480 --> 0:31:21.120 Bryce Odridge come off the bench with that pinch hit 0:31:21.240 --> 0:31:24.000 knocked lefty on lefty, or maybe even seeing a flash 0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:26.720 of a blade. Tidwell or Carson wasn't on today. It's 0:31:26.760 --> 0:31:29.320 all about the future, and it feels like at least 0:31:29.360 --> 0:31:32.960 the Giants know which direction they're heading towards instead of 0:31:33.040 --> 0:31:35.400 being stuck in the middle and saying, hey, we might 0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:38.080 be competing for a wildcard spot. No, there was no 0:31:38.280 --> 0:31:41.080 questions asked about the direction of this franchise at this 0:31:41.200 --> 0:31:42.080 year's straight deadline. 0:31:42.160 --> 0:31:44.520 Yeah, and that was the right call. Again, I think 0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:49.480 they handled that appropriately get given their situation, and we 0:31:49.640 --> 0:31:53.400 knew this. I mean they telegraphed it seven weeks out. 0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:55.160 I mean you can go back to the middle of 0:31:55.320 --> 0:31:58.840 June when it was basically Buster posey at that point, 0:31:58.840 --> 0:32:02.239 and I think the Giants were or fourteen under at 0:32:02.320 --> 0:32:05.680 that point, So it really acted in two different ways. 0:32:06.360 --> 0:32:09.280 The reporting on the Giants being willing to listen on 0:32:09.480 --> 0:32:13.360 the expensive, longer term contracts that they had signed, and 0:32:13.440 --> 0:32:17.160 at that point, obviously Devers was looking more disappointing than 0:32:17.280 --> 0:32:21.160 maybe he is now as it relates to his overall numbers. 0:32:22.120 --> 0:32:25.800 But I think them being open for business for that 0:32:25.920 --> 0:32:29.240 long was an admission even then that hey, this ain't 0:32:29.280 --> 0:32:31.680 it like this team this season? Ain't it? And that's 0:32:31.720 --> 0:32:34.680 the one thing we've seen from Buster Posey is a 0:32:34.880 --> 0:32:38.840 confidence in the willingness to pivot off of things that 0:32:39.080 --> 0:32:44.040 don't work, even bold moves that he's made that have 0:32:44.240 --> 0:32:46.400 kind of flamed out to this point. He has been 0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:49.880 unafraid to say look in the mirror and say this 0:32:50.080 --> 0:32:52.000 is not working. We have to try to go in 0:32:52.080 --> 0:32:52.760 a different direction. 0:32:52.880 --> 0:32:55.440 Yeah, and that's something that I was encouraged by listening 0:32:55.480 --> 0:32:58.680 to Buster Posey's press conference after the trade deadline. And 0:32:58.760 --> 0:33:01.480 we should remind everybody that it is Buster Posey week 0:33:01.520 --> 0:33:03.320 here on the Murphy Market Show. He'll be joining us 0:33:03.400 --> 0:33:07.040 tomorrow at seven thirty am on The Giants Executive Show. 0:33:07.120 --> 0:33:10.120 But at his press conference after the trade deadline, he 0:33:10.320 --> 0:33:12.600 was talking about the trade with Luisa Rise to the 0:33:12.640 --> 0:33:15.560 Philadelphia Phillies, and he mentioned the name Ramond Marquez is 0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:18.080 the top pitching prospect that they got back at this 0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:20.240 year's deadline, and he said, look, this is a guy 0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:22.280 that we've had an eye on for weeks, for months, 0:33:22.320 --> 0:33:23.959 We've kind of been scouting him out. 0:33:24.000 --> 0:33:25.040 And it's like, oh, well, that's good. 0:33:25.120 --> 0:33:27.560 That means that they've had this thought process of needing 0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:30.600 to go out and make these trades because they've been. 0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:32.280 So bad all season long. 0:33:32.520 --> 0:33:35.360 So I like that they've been kind of proactive in 0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:37.719 scouting out some of these prospects and trying to make 0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:39.880 some moves and trying to rebuild this farm system. 0:33:39.920 --> 0:33:44.440 Because Buster Posey for his flaws and his faults in some. 0:33:44.520 --> 0:33:46.960 Of these contracts that he's stuck with, he knows that 0:33:47.040 --> 0:33:49.920 the past success is homegrown talent in some of these 0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:52.720 younger prospects in the farm system, and that's why you 0:33:52.800 --> 0:33:55.200 got to rebuild it throughout the trade deadline, which is 0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:57.239 why we saw a guy like Blade Tedwill last night 0:33:57.440 --> 0:33:59.680 who came in a return package for Tyler Rodgers at 0:33:59.760 --> 0:34:00.960 last sure straight deadline. 0:34:01.080 --> 0:34:04.960 Yeah, and again, the appropriate moves and even if those 0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:09.439 moves created holes that were never filled for this year's 0:34:09.520 --> 0:34:11.920 roster and became a big part of the conversation. Obviously 0:34:12.040 --> 0:34:15.239 with moving on from Dovall and Rogers still the right 0:34:15.360 --> 0:34:18.840 move at the deadline, at least in my opinion, to 0:34:19.239 --> 0:34:21.640 move off of those guys and try to get younger 0:34:21.760 --> 0:34:26.719 and begin the reshuffling of the farm system, which I 0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:31.160 think was among the try and compete now goals. The big, 0:34:31.360 --> 0:34:34.480 big goal was to try to fix the farm system 0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:37.640 as he took over for far Anxiety. 0:34:37.800 --> 0:34:40.600 Yeah, and look, it's not apples to apples when you 0:34:40.719 --> 0:34:43.239 compare it to the forty nine ers right now, who 0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:44.920 have a lot of veterans but also a lot of 0:34:45.000 --> 0:34:47.640 young guys on their fifty three man roster. It's not 0:34:47.840 --> 0:34:50.200 like the Warriors and the two timeline plan. Like in 0:34:50.280 --> 0:34:52.320 baseball you need to have two timelines. You need to 0:34:52.360 --> 0:34:55.320 have three timelines, arguably because of the minor league system 0:34:55.680 --> 0:34:58.560 and seeing you're seventeen and eighteen year old and nineteen 0:34:58.640 --> 0:35:01.279 year old prospects and how they match up with a 0:35:01.360 --> 0:35:03.879 guy who's twenty one like Brezeldridge, but also a guy 0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:06.439 who's twenty nine like Logan Webb throwing a twenty seven 0:35:06.520 --> 0:35:08.960 year old Casey Schmid, a thirty three year old Mat 0:35:09.080 --> 0:35:10.880 Chapman or whatever he is. You've kind of got to 0:35:10.920 --> 0:35:13.120 mix and match your pieces more. You can't just go 0:35:13.239 --> 0:35:14.600 with one specific timeline. 0:35:14.719 --> 0:35:17.800 It does feel like a little like the Warriors with 0:35:18.520 --> 0:35:22.040 the two timeline thing. But I think you're spot on 0:35:22.480 --> 0:35:24.480 in terms of the fact that you got to give 0:35:24.520 --> 0:35:27.520 fans something to hope for as well. And you know, 0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:30.320 the future is Bright has kind of been the mantra 0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:33.840 for the Giants here based on I think, first and foremost, 0:35:34.640 --> 0:35:36.880 even going back to bringing Bryce Eldridge up at the 0:35:36.960 --> 0:35:41.120 beginning of May amid the first real hey, this team 0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:43.239 isn't what we thought it was gonna be, type of 0:35:43.280 --> 0:35:45.719 a moment through through April and coming off of that 0:35:45.840 --> 0:35:48.879 zero to six trip to Philly and Saint Petersburg. Hey, 0:35:48.920 --> 0:35:52.399 let's get Bryce Eldridge up. Future is bright. Hey, let's 0:35:52.440 --> 0:35:54.480 acknowledge the fact that there are a lot of really 0:35:54.520 --> 0:35:58.160 good young players that in a ball essentially that are 0:35:58.280 --> 0:36:01.799 gonna be you know, let's start focusing more on those 0:36:01.880 --> 0:36:04.560 guys and talking about how great they're doing and projecting 0:36:04.640 --> 0:36:07.160 where they may fit into the future equation. You've got 0:36:07.280 --> 0:36:09.200 that level of it and then you've got their draft, 0:36:09.280 --> 0:36:13.680 which was widely praised. And again I'm no expert, but 0:36:14.320 --> 0:36:18.640 those who are experts in that believe that the Giants 0:36:18.719 --> 0:36:22.640 did excellently in the players that they drafted, not only 0:36:22.719 --> 0:36:26.800 with Jackson Flora but others. And again you go pitching first, 0:36:26.880 --> 0:36:29.160 taking the number one pitcher on the board with the 0:36:29.480 --> 0:36:32.400 number four overall pick, and then you go to the 0:36:32.480 --> 0:36:35.319 deadline and to what extent were the Giants really going 0:36:35.400 --> 0:36:36.719 to look to do it. I know we had the 0:36:36.800 --> 0:36:40.520 debate for weeks about what do you look to move 0:36:40.640 --> 0:36:44.160 Logan Web. I think they could have turbocharged even what 0:36:44.320 --> 0:36:48.080 they did, but they, I think in some vein trying 0:36:48.160 --> 0:36:50.440 to have the best of all worlds, knowing they were 0:36:50.440 --> 0:36:53.600 still going to be stuck with certain players. Choosing to 0:36:53.760 --> 0:36:56.360 keep Web and choosing to keep Jung Hulee who have 0:36:56.440 --> 0:37:00.320 been productive players for them, and the style of player 0:37:00.400 --> 0:37:04.319 that I think they want on their rosters at their 0:37:04.400 --> 0:37:07.080 respective position. So there's a value in that, I get that, 0:37:07.840 --> 0:37:11.919 But then flipping the players that are free agents again 0:37:12.040 --> 0:37:15.080 kind of making the safe move in terms of the decision, 0:37:15.600 --> 0:37:18.759 but also by virtue of those who are experts far 0:37:18.840 --> 0:37:23.960 more than you or I getting a lot of prospects 0:37:24.040 --> 0:37:26.600 that project to come back and be factors. Now you 0:37:26.800 --> 0:37:31.200 never know, but it's something else. It's the third wave, essentially, 0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:34.360 the guys already in the system, the guys you just drafted, 0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:36.600 and now the guys you're getting back at the trade deadline. 0:37:37.040 --> 0:37:40.400 Three waves of sort of the future is bright, the 0:37:40.480 --> 0:37:43.360 future is bright. The future is bright. Let's sort of 0:37:43.400 --> 0:37:46.800 shift away from the disappointment of this team that we 0:37:46.880 --> 0:37:49.759 were all kind of talking playoffs about back on March 0:37:49.840 --> 0:37:50.359 twenty seven. 0:37:50.440 --> 0:37:52.800 Yeah, when we all thought this offense had the potential 0:37:52.840 --> 0:37:55.920 to maybe carry this team to the postseason. They're obviously 0:37:56.000 --> 0:37:58.520 not headed towards the postseason. But when you are looking 0:37:58.600 --> 0:38:01.160 at the first two years of bus or as bad 0:38:01.200 --> 0:38:04.759 as the record looks, the farm system looks so much better. 0:38:04.880 --> 0:38:07.160 And that goes back to this year's draft class, that 0:38:07.280 --> 0:38:09.920 goes to the trade deadline, that goes back to trading 0:38:10.000 --> 0:38:13.120 Patrick Bailey for tug Boke Wilkinson and also getting that 0:38:13.160 --> 0:38:15.399 twenty nine pick that they used on Carson Bowlman this year. 0:38:15.640 --> 0:38:17.279 And then you look at what they did in the 0:38:17.360 --> 0:38:21.040 international signings as well, with guys like Jos Joshu War 0:38:21.040 --> 0:38:24.239 Gonzalez and Luis Hernandez. The problem is those guys are 0:38:24.320 --> 0:38:26.759 seventeen and eighteen years old, so you're gonna have to 0:38:26.840 --> 0:38:29.400 wait a while to see some of these top prospects. 0:38:29.600 --> 0:38:31.360 Let's go ahead and check in with a few callers 0:38:31.440 --> 0:38:34.279 we got this morning. Vic in the Netherlands has a 0:38:34.440 --> 0:38:38.719 questions about the Giants' young prospects and the young talent 0:38:38.880 --> 0:38:39.880 within the organization. 0:38:40.320 --> 0:38:42.319 Vic, what's up, brother, You're on the Murphy Marc Show. 0:38:44.480 --> 0:38:47.600 Good morning, guys. I appreciate you taking my call. Yeah, 0:38:47.600 --> 0:38:50.480 I got a couple of questions about the farm system. 0:38:50.520 --> 0:38:54.800 We're mostly the directors, the executives within the player development. 0:38:55.920 --> 0:38:58.800 I'm not that familiar with who's running what, but it 0:38:59.640 --> 0:39:04.040 seems like a lot of farhands previous guys were promoted, 0:39:04.400 --> 0:39:06.480 I mean in the form of an Asian and Randy 0:39:06.520 --> 0:39:08.880 Win and so forth, and I'm kind of curious, are 0:39:08.960 --> 0:39:11.480 they the guys that really get the most out of 0:39:11.560 --> 0:39:14.960 these prospects. It seems pretty clear that the Giants are 0:39:15.480 --> 0:39:17.600 going ahead for a top five farm system by the 0:39:17.640 --> 0:39:21.719 Internet year, and can we rely on the same old 0:39:21.800 --> 0:39:24.680 guys to get the most out of these prospects or 0:39:24.680 --> 0:39:26.840 are we going to kind of ruin these guys, you know, 0:39:27.440 --> 0:39:29.000 in anticipation of twenty twenty eight. 0:39:29.160 --> 0:39:31.920 Yeah, vict it's a great question because, look, in the 0:39:32.239 --> 0:39:34.839 five six years that I've been on air now, I've 0:39:34.880 --> 0:39:37.600 talked about a lot of prospects. I've talked about Marco 0:39:37.719 --> 0:39:41.640 Luciano and Joey Bart, even Hayden Bird Songs and Landing 0:39:41.719 --> 0:39:44.359 Rubes and Kyle Harrison's and Carson Woods and Hunts, and look, 0:39:44.640 --> 0:39:47.080 you're never gonna have a one hundred percent hit rate 0:39:47.200 --> 0:39:49.560 on prospects, but it almost feels like you have to 0:39:49.600 --> 0:39:51.839 take the strategy of just stacking up as much talent 0:39:51.960 --> 0:39:56.080 as possible. Now to your question about development overall, I 0:39:56.280 --> 0:40:00.080 think that's still TBA or should I say TBD to 0:40:00.200 --> 0:40:02.640 be determined, Because we saw a guy like Kyle Harrison 0:40:02.960 --> 0:40:06.360 make his Giants debut, show some flashes, then he started 0:40:06.400 --> 0:40:08.839 to struggle, get shipped out to Boston, get shipped out 0:40:08.840 --> 0:40:11.320 to Milwaukee, and it seems like Milwaukee was able to 0:40:11.440 --> 0:40:14.080 develop him turning around, move his arm, angle down, move 0:40:14.160 --> 0:40:15.960 him to a different side of the mountain, and tweak 0:40:16.040 --> 0:40:18.200 some things. I don't know if we've had that much 0:40:18.280 --> 0:40:22.120 success from this Giants system. I mean, Bryce Eldridge is 0:40:22.160 --> 0:40:24.719 a perfect example. But Vic, that's also hard to maybe 0:40:24.840 --> 0:40:27.520 determine whether or not that's the Giants development or is 0:40:27.560 --> 0:40:29.759 that just Bryce Eldridge, the stud being that he is. 0:40:32.280 --> 0:40:35.719 I totally hear you. I guess my perspective is it 0:40:35.800 --> 0:40:39.680 seems like other organizations, especially winning organizations, seem more in 0:40:39.800 --> 0:40:43.640 our prospects after they leave our system. To some believe it, 0:40:43.760 --> 0:40:46.200 Ramos or the Yankees, clearly they see something with it. 0:40:46.600 --> 0:40:48.399 And maybe that's just a small park where he doesn't 0:40:48.400 --> 0:40:50.279 have to really play much defense in left field and 0:40:50.719 --> 0:40:53.360 you can just rake, But it always seems like we 0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:56.040 don't get that much out of our own prospects. And 0:40:56.120 --> 0:40:58.640 when the good ones leave, at least with this regime 0:40:58.760 --> 0:41:02.680 or the past far Handergem, they excel. And I'm kind 0:41:02.680 --> 0:41:06.000 of worried about his posey put the right guys in 0:41:06.120 --> 0:41:07.920 place to get the most out of these guys that 0:41:08.000 --> 0:41:09.840 were gonna let them. The Nations and so forth, just 0:41:09.960 --> 0:41:12.960 kind of moto some more of our prospects and I'm 0:41:13.000 --> 0:41:15.240 hoping not fingers crossed. 0:41:15.400 --> 0:41:17.680 Yeah, yeah, I'm with you. Vic, appreciate the call this morning. 0:41:17.760 --> 0:41:21.680 I think that's kind of the hope in strategy for 0:41:21.760 --> 0:41:24.440 the organization. And look I've had the same questions because 0:41:24.440 --> 0:41:26.600 you can go through recent draft classes for the Giants, 0:41:26.640 --> 0:41:28.360 going back over the last ten years, there haven't been 0:41:28.400 --> 0:41:31.000 a lot of hits. But you're hoping now that maybe 0:41:31.080 --> 0:41:34.320 things are different with a different approach, different strategy. With 0:41:34.520 --> 0:41:37.640 them drafting twelve pitchers with their twenty picks this year, 0:41:38.000 --> 0:41:40.680 it seems like they might be going a different strategy 0:41:40.920 --> 0:41:44.080 with contact first hitters, with Gavin Keelyn and Trevor Cohen, 0:41:44.080 --> 0:41:45.640 a couple guys they drafted a couple of years ago. 0:41:45.760 --> 0:41:47.200 At least, it feels like there's a little bit of 0:41:47.239 --> 0:41:49.000 a different shift than the strategy JV. 0:41:49.239 --> 0:41:51.040 Yeah, And the question is always going to be are 0:41:51.080 --> 0:41:54.160 you drafting the right Are you drafting the right guys 0:41:54.600 --> 0:41:58.880 versus the people that you have developing them? And I 0:41:58.960 --> 0:42:01.919 think to this point, for the most part, I don't 0:42:01.960 --> 0:42:04.920 think that Giants have drafted or signed the right guys, 0:42:05.480 --> 0:42:07.319 you know, in going back to the far Han era. 0:42:07.920 --> 0:42:10.480 But the one thing about players that are drafted in 0:42:10.600 --> 0:42:13.320 that era is there are a lot of teams around 0:42:13.640 --> 0:42:19.719 Major League Baseball that that similarly evaluate analytically, and so 0:42:19.880 --> 0:42:23.040 I think there are a lot of teams around baseball 0:42:23.080 --> 0:42:25.320 that look maybe more at some of the guys that 0:42:25.480 --> 0:42:28.360 far Han brought in and think that that they're aligned 0:42:28.480 --> 0:42:32.640 with certain ways that that they can be fixed, if 0:42:32.719 --> 0:42:35.799 that makes sense. So when you look at at say 0:42:36.239 --> 0:42:38.839 a Kyle Harrison in the like now ramosk goes even 0:42:39.160 --> 0:42:42.240 pre dates you know that that's back to Bobby Evans, 0:42:42.680 --> 0:42:44.520 that goes back to the Bobby Evans that even pre 0:42:44.640 --> 0:42:47.520 dates far Han. But I think for the Yankees it's just, hey, 0:42:47.560 --> 0:42:50.359 they needed another bat. They think his bat will play 0:42:50.480 --> 0:42:54.359 in Yankee Stadium, and they're they're ravaged by injuries as 0:42:54.440 --> 0:42:57.000 you know, so they just need people that, especially you know, 0:42:57.200 --> 0:42:59.759 right handed bats right now they can mash left handed pitching, 0:42:59.800 --> 0:43:02.600 which just something that Ramos has done well. I think 0:43:02.640 --> 0:43:06.760 in the grand scheme, teams view Ramos as a platoon 0:43:06.840 --> 0:43:09.000 player and not an every day player. I think that's 0:43:09.040 --> 0:43:12.160 sort of the rat on the table that hasn't really 0:43:12.239 --> 0:43:14.600 been talked about as much locally. Maybe you guys have 0:43:14.680 --> 0:43:17.440 talked about it. I think his view around baseball moving 0:43:17.520 --> 0:43:22.839 forward is Lefty masher part time player pitch hitter as 0:43:22.920 --> 0:43:25.759 opposed to every day starting left field. Yeah, I would 0:43:25.800 --> 0:43:26.480 agree with that take. 0:43:26.520 --> 0:43:28.640 I think he's eventually going to be a platoon guy 0:43:28.960 --> 0:43:31.680 once Aaron Judge and Cody Bellinger and those guys come 0:43:31.760 --> 0:43:32.719 back for the Yankees. 0:43:32.520 --> 0:43:33.160 Even next year. 0:43:33.280 --> 0:43:35.759 Yeah, maybe next year. I know Trent Grisham's going to 0:43:35.760 --> 0:43:38.359 be a free agency to move forward, but you look 0:43:38.400 --> 0:43:41.000 at that process, that plan. But also last thing I'll 0:43:41.000 --> 0:43:43.840 say before we move on, you look at the trades 0:43:43.880 --> 0:43:45.919 that the Giants were able to make at this year's 0:43:45.920 --> 0:43:49.239 trade deadline, bringing a guy like Marcelo Meyer coming over 0:43:49.360 --> 0:43:50.439 from the Boston Red Sox. 0:43:50.680 --> 0:43:52.919 That was a guy that was a top five draft 0:43:52.960 --> 0:43:54.040 pick just a couple of years ago. 0:43:54.440 --> 0:43:57.360 Last year was ranked ahead of Bryce Eldridge in the 0:43:57.480 --> 0:44:00.040 top one hundred prospects. Obviously, he has not had that 0:44:00.200 --> 0:44:02.839 instant success that Bryce Eltris has had, but he's one 0:44:02.880 --> 0:44:04.800 of those guys that maybe the Giants are trying to 0:44:04.840 --> 0:44:07.480 pluck away from a different organization, put him through their 0:44:07.520 --> 0:44:11.000 development process, and maybe they find something after being able 0:44:11.040 --> 0:44:13.640 to beat sellers at the trade deadline and flip Eric 0:44:13.760 --> 0:44:16.640 Miller a bullpen arm for a potential piece moving forward, 0:44:16.840 --> 0:44:19.160 a guy you could see potentially at second base this 0:44:19.440 --> 0:44:22.400 season once he recovers from injuries. But those are all 0:44:22.480 --> 0:44:26.040 topics that we can continue to discuss as the future 0:44:26.239 --> 0:44:29.840 is wide open for the San Francisco Giants. 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Yeah, 0:45:27.080 --> 0:45:29.359 they got four twenty five point scores in the sea. 0:45:30.120 --> 0:45:31.600 So hell, y'all think it will be a contender. 0:45:31.680 --> 0:45:32.560 Man, that will be a great. 0:45:32.440 --> 0:45:33.000 Team to watch. 0:45:35.719 --> 0:45:39.319 Uh, Kevin Durant back in our lives and we are 0:45:39.400 --> 0:45:41.759 back again live on the Murph and Market Show on 0:45:41.920 --> 0:45:44.719 a Wednesday morning, John Dickinson filling in for the rest 0:45:44.719 --> 0:45:47.160 of the week for my man Brian Murphy. And I 0:45:47.200 --> 0:45:49.120 should tell you that you are listening to Canby r 0:45:49.200 --> 0:45:52.360 AIM and cambyr FM, San Francisco, the Sports Leader a 0:45:52.600 --> 0:45:57.680 Cumulus Media station. And that was Forever Warrior Kevin Durant 0:45:58.160 --> 0:46:02.560 given his take on the new wo look Philadelphia seventy 0:46:02.600 --> 0:46:06.520 six ers after making the signing of the offseason bringing 0:46:06.600 --> 0:46:11.320 in Lebron James, building a super team out East and 0:46:11.480 --> 0:46:14.600 now it feels like KD is almost taking shots at 0:46:14.680 --> 0:46:18.239 his former team and his former teammates now JD. This 0:46:18.440 --> 0:46:22.160 comes a couple weeks after Kevin Durant had comments about 0:46:22.200 --> 0:46:26.360 how he viewed the Warriors as an underdog franchise before 0:46:26.400 --> 0:46:29.279 he signed with them. This, of course, came after he 0:46:29.440 --> 0:46:31.880 blew a three to one lead against the Warriors and 0:46:31.960 --> 0:46:34.320 a season where the Warriors won more games during the 0:46:34.360 --> 0:46:37.640 regular season than anybody else in NBA history. We know 0:46:37.719 --> 0:46:40.040 how that season ended, and then what happened in twenty 0:46:40.120 --> 0:46:44.399 seventeen once Kevin Durant joined the roster, but now KD 0:46:45.040 --> 0:46:48.960 is I don't know if he's rewriting history to make 0:46:49.080 --> 0:46:52.319 himself look better or at least feel better. But trying 0:46:52.400 --> 0:46:55.920 to compare Lebron James joining the seventy six ers to 0:46:56.040 --> 0:46:59.839 the twenty seventeen Warriors team, JD, what was your take 0:47:00.400 --> 0:47:03.840 on Kevin Durant first of all, even comparing these two rosters, 0:47:04.120 --> 0:47:06.799 but also kind of taking some stray shots at Klay 0:47:06.880 --> 0:47:08.640 Thompson and Draymond Green throughout the process. 0:47:08.880 --> 0:47:11.360 Yeah, I mean, I I don't know what he's trying 0:47:11.400 --> 0:47:13.879 to do. I think he always is trying to come 0:47:13.960 --> 0:47:17.240 off as as keeping it a buck and being honest 0:47:17.640 --> 0:47:20.760 about everything. But he always One thing I noticed about 0:47:20.840 --> 0:47:24.160 him is going back to his press conferences and being 0:47:24.280 --> 0:47:27.120 in just about every one of them post game. Back 0:47:27.200 --> 0:47:29.360 in that KD era in the three years he was 0:47:29.400 --> 0:47:32.719 with the Warriors, he tends to always when he's asked 0:47:32.760 --> 0:47:37.000 a question, go with a contrary opinion. He just didn't 0:47:37.280 --> 0:47:39.879 like like you could. He was a type of guy 0:47:40.000 --> 0:47:42.239 that you know, do you think do you think coach 0:47:42.280 --> 0:47:43.719 wants wants you guys to do that? 0:47:43.840 --> 0:47:43.920 Now? 0:47:43.960 --> 0:47:47.799 I don't see it like he would always subtly say 0:47:47.880 --> 0:47:53.400 the opposite to almost any question that was asked. Uh 0:47:53.600 --> 0:47:55.799 And and so I'm not sure what he's getting at 0:47:55.880 --> 0:47:58.800 there in terms of, you know, trying to make himself 0:47:58.840 --> 0:48:02.680 feel better for joint the Warriors are comparing the two 0:48:02.800 --> 0:48:07.279 teams in essence that this Philly team on paper is 0:48:07.440 --> 0:48:12.400 better than that Warriors team from from twenty sixteen twenty seventeen, 0:48:12.440 --> 0:48:14.880 I mean the Warriors. Yeah, I think maybe he's got 0:48:14.920 --> 0:48:18.799 a point in terms of underdog franchise going back to then, 0:48:19.000 --> 0:48:23.040 but it's asinine and the other thought because they just 0:48:23.120 --> 0:48:27.360 won seventy three games coming off of a championship, And 0:48:27.920 --> 0:48:31.239 I do think it is a little bit disrespectful, not 0:48:31.400 --> 0:48:35.839 only to Steph, because like I mean, Steph was better 0:48:35.960 --> 0:48:40.800 than anybody by far on this this Philly team currently 0:48:41.160 --> 0:48:43.920 before Lebron obviously comes and joins, and we can, you know, 0:48:43.960 --> 0:48:45.759 we can debate that, but Steph then is a lot 0:48:45.840 --> 0:48:46.520 better than Lebron. 0:48:46.600 --> 0:48:49.960 Now, Steph was a unanimous MVP and as great as Lebron. 0:48:50.120 --> 0:48:53.120 James Courrier is isn't his forty now? And like even 0:48:53.120 --> 0:48:55.240 if you want to say, oh, Jowell Embiid was an MVP, 0:48:56.160 --> 0:48:57.680 not at the same level Steph Curry was. 0:48:57.760 --> 0:49:00.600 No question, not not at the same level as Steph 0:49:00.640 --> 0:49:05.680 Curry was. And I think Klay Thompson then is better 0:49:05.960 --> 0:49:10.480 than anybody that the Sixers have. Now I would agree. 0:49:10.280 --> 0:49:13.680 With that take, which is why Klay Thompson actually responded 0:49:13.719 --> 0:49:16.800 to this post, because when Kad was comparing these rosters, 0:49:16.840 --> 0:49:20.759 he said, it ain't even close. LMAO, that's laughing my 0:49:21.000 --> 0:49:23.960 ass off. He talks about the talent that the seventies 0:49:24.120 --> 0:49:26.120 that the seventy six ers have on the roster and 0:49:26.200 --> 0:49:28.000 then took a shot at Klay Thompson and say, Klay 0:49:28.080 --> 0:49:31.759 Thompson never won an MVP. Excuse me, Klay Thompson never 0:49:31.960 --> 0:49:36.440 an MVP candidate in nothing. And so Klay Thompson goes, hey, man, 0:49:36.600 --> 0:49:39.359 you good. Why are you using my full government name 0:49:39.520 --> 0:49:42.080 on social media? Why are you calling me out? And 0:49:42.200 --> 0:49:44.560 it feels like I'm not saying Kevin Durant is the 0:49:44.600 --> 0:49:47.879 one rewriting the history on Klay Thompson, but this younger 0:49:48.000 --> 0:49:50.720 generation of NBA fans who don't give Clay any respect 0:49:50.960 --> 0:49:52.719 as one of the best two way players in the 0:49:52.840 --> 0:49:55.080 league at that time, not only one of the best 0:49:55.120 --> 0:49:56.439 three point shooters. In the league. 0:49:56.840 --> 0:50:00.120 It feels like maybe Klay Thompson at this point. 0:50:00.400 --> 0:50:02.680 Is underrated in his career, because yeah, I don't know 0:50:02.760 --> 0:50:04.680 how you can say a guy like VJ. Edgecomb at 0:50:04.719 --> 0:50:07.480 this point is already better than a prime Klay Thompson. 0:50:07.600 --> 0:50:10.120 And I don't even think MAXI right now is better 0:50:10.160 --> 0:50:12.400 than a prime Clay Thompson. Jalen Brown, I think is 0:50:12.480 --> 0:50:16.440 debatable obviously at this point. I mean, but he's been 0:50:17.520 --> 0:50:20.359 in a similar fashion to Clay being the number two 0:50:20.400 --> 0:50:23.880 to Steph. Jalen Brown was at number two to Tatum, 0:50:23.960 --> 0:50:26.600 And yes, it gets skewed a little bit because Jalen 0:50:26.640 --> 0:50:31.160 Brown won the finals MVP, but Tatum was viewed as 0:50:31.160 --> 0:50:32.680 the one. And I think that's part of why things 0:50:32.719 --> 0:50:37.240 didn't work in Boston ultimately, was as Jalen Brown started 0:50:37.239 --> 0:50:41.040 to view himself as higher in the pecking order. I 0:50:41.120 --> 0:50:44.359 think the Celtics viewed it more as no, this isn't 0:50:44.440 --> 0:50:47.040 necessarily the one in one A. It's more of a 0:50:47.120 --> 0:50:49.359 one and two, and you're the two, which is why 0:50:49.440 --> 0:50:53.040 we're more comfortable moving on from you at this particular 0:50:53.120 --> 0:50:57.120 stage rather than continuing to pay you premier number one 0:50:57.880 --> 0:51:01.279 type money. Again, already done it they'd want to touch. 0:51:01.320 --> 0:51:03.840 So I think that's actually part of why they pivoted 0:51:04.360 --> 0:51:06.960 in Boston, is the fact that it's a little more 0:51:07.040 --> 0:51:10.480 clear cut internally than maybe it appears from the outside. Yeah, 0:51:11.160 --> 0:51:15.160 and so like there was never that question with the Warriors. No, 0:51:15.520 --> 0:51:19.680 it was it was step back to back and unanimous 0:51:19.760 --> 0:51:24.200 the second time MVP. But Clay was not only one 0:51:24.239 --> 0:51:27.719 of the best twos in the league in terms of 0:51:27.840 --> 0:51:31.239 two guards, but he was the best two in terms 0:51:31.280 --> 0:51:33.800 of number two option in the league. Going back to that. 0:51:34.000 --> 0:51:36.520 Yeah, and I don't think the analytics ever had Klay 0:51:36.640 --> 0:51:39.480 Thompson as the seventh best player on the Warriors roster. 0:51:41.120 --> 0:51:44.040 Shout out the Boston Celtics analytics department that led to 0:51:44.080 --> 0:51:46.560 that Jalen Brown trade that led to Lebron James now 0:51:46.680 --> 0:51:49.839 joining the seventy six ers. And outside of these Katie comparisons, 0:51:50.600 --> 0:51:53.759 JD your comparison, Like, yes, Katie has a point that 0:51:53.880 --> 0:51:56.560 all these guys can average twenty points per game, but 0:51:56.719 --> 0:51:59.400 the game is more than just getting buckets. How are 0:51:59.440 --> 0:52:01.480 these guys going to mesh? I don't think they're all 0:52:01.520 --> 0:52:04.319 gonna score twenty points this year. Even Draymond Green said, 0:52:04.360 --> 0:52:07.440 like if I'm vj Edgecomb's agent. I'm not too happy 0:52:07.480 --> 0:52:10.239 about the season moving forward because my guys numbers are 0:52:10.280 --> 0:52:12.319 gonna go down, which is gonna cost him some cash. 0:52:12.400 --> 0:52:13.680 But I don't know JD. 0:52:13.840 --> 0:52:16.239 Your comparison ross to the roster, it feels like, even 0:52:16.280 --> 0:52:17.879 if you want to look at these teams on paper, 0:52:18.040 --> 0:52:20.480 the Warriors had much more depth than the seventy six 0:52:20.560 --> 0:52:21.600 Ers team is gonna have this year. 0:52:21.800 --> 0:52:24.680 I think they had more top end talent and they 0:52:24.719 --> 0:52:27.560 had more depth, And I think there is a question 0:52:27.680 --> 0:52:29.319 as to how all these players are going to fit 0:52:29.400 --> 0:52:33.680 together as great as they are individually, just from a 0:52:33.880 --> 0:52:38.160 cohesive standpoint, because I mean, the Warriors were a freaking unit, 0:52:38.280 --> 0:52:41.160 man like they and then they dropped KD into that 0:52:41.280 --> 0:52:43.719 thing and they were humbling Like I don't think there's 0:52:43.840 --> 0:52:47.160 much of a doubt that the Warriors team from that 0:52:47.400 --> 0:52:50.560 era is better than this Sixers team, given the age 0:52:50.800 --> 0:52:54.480 and given what the players on Philadelphia have accomplished to 0:52:54.520 --> 0:52:58.080 this point in their careers. For some the younger guys 0:52:58.160 --> 0:53:01.040 Maxi and Edgecumbe, and the fact that Embiid at this 0:53:01.160 --> 0:53:05.120 stage is a shell of the player that he once was. 0:53:05.280 --> 0:53:07.920 Like if if we're talking Embiid from you know, four 0:53:08.000 --> 0:53:11.120 or five, six years ago. Then I think difference the one. 0:53:11.200 --> 0:53:12.640 I think we're having a little bit of a of 0:53:12.719 --> 0:53:16.560 a different conversation. But I think KD is failing to 0:53:17.160 --> 0:53:19.239 account for that now. I think he's looking at name 0:53:19.400 --> 0:53:22.440 talent and and I think he's he's having it both ways. 0:53:22.719 --> 0:53:25.520 He's treating it in his mind as if it's the 0:53:25.600 --> 0:53:28.680 old Embiid and the old Lebron, right, meaning the younger 0:53:28.760 --> 0:53:32.239 Embiid and the younger Lebron. But also he's giving the 0:53:32.320 --> 0:53:35.960 benefit of the doubt to Maxi and Edgecombe as as 0:53:36.080 --> 0:53:38.640 like play of the rise, they will be trying to 0:53:39.840 --> 0:53:41.560 be So he's trying to have his cake and eat 0:53:41.600 --> 0:53:43.960 it too. Uh And and I don't know, I mean, 0:53:44.000 --> 0:53:48.160 there's just there is. He just continued to feel some 0:53:48.360 --> 0:53:52.000 kind of way about his time with the Warriors, and 0:53:52.080 --> 0:53:55.719 it never, it never, in his mind, my take, lived 0:53:55.840 --> 0:53:57.840 up to what he thought it was going to be 0:53:58.480 --> 0:54:02.440 in terms of the accolade aids personally, in terms of 0:54:02.760 --> 0:54:04.440 just the feeling that I think he was going to 0:54:04.520 --> 0:54:06.440 get from winning a championship. I know I've said this 0:54:06.560 --> 0:54:09.520 a lot, and look, nobody fully knows what's going on. 0:54:09.640 --> 0:54:12.400 In another man's head. But I always got the impression 0:54:12.520 --> 0:54:16.759 that KD he he just at his core he wants 0:54:16.800 --> 0:54:18.680 to hoop. And I think he loved the way the 0:54:18.719 --> 0:54:21.160 Warriors played basketball, and he thought, hey, I'm a I'm 0:54:21.200 --> 0:54:23.560 a guy that has to be a carrier and do 0:54:23.680 --> 0:54:26.359 it in my own way, but I can fit into 0:54:26.400 --> 0:54:29.400 this system beautifully and just hoop with great ballers in 0:54:29.520 --> 0:54:32.680 their prime. We're gonna win. I'm gonna get that title, 0:54:33.239 --> 0:54:35.640 and I'm going to get to experience how that feels 0:54:35.719 --> 0:54:37.160 to get over that hump. And I think when he 0:54:37.280 --> 0:54:41.719 experienced it, he looked back and it didn't. It didn't. 0:54:42.239 --> 0:54:44.319 It didn't fulfill him in the ways that I think 0:54:44.360 --> 0:54:47.560 he thought it was going to fulfill him. And then 0:54:47.640 --> 0:54:50.840 I think he also thought that maybe he wasn't getting 0:54:50.960 --> 0:54:53.320 enough credit for helping to put those two teams that 0:54:53.440 --> 0:54:56.200 won the titles over the top. And I think that 0:54:56.400 --> 0:54:58.920 led to, you know what, I got crushed for this. 0:54:59.760 --> 0:55:02.680 The the feeling, the joy of winning the title really 0:55:02.800 --> 0:55:04.759 wasn't what it was all cracked up to be. So 0:55:04.880 --> 0:55:07.200 I'm just gonna go look to ball with my buddies 0:55:07.200 --> 0:55:07.919 in another town. 0:55:08.080 --> 0:55:10.799 He was trying to have his cupcake and eat it too. 0:55:11.120 --> 0:55:14.040 And he's after being nicknamed a cupcake for leaving OKAC 0:55:14.440 --> 0:55:16.920 like he's already always been a little sensitive to the 0:55:17.000 --> 0:55:20.640 outside noise. That's why he was famously on burner accounts, 0:55:20.880 --> 0:55:24.360 and even Draymond Green yesterday on social media said Slim 0:55:24.480 --> 0:55:27.920 thought he was on a burner account. Maybe Katie accidentally 0:55:28.000 --> 0:55:30.960 posted this quote, but regardless, I think you're right. He 0:55:31.160 --> 0:55:34.960 wanted the credit of winning a championship and being a 0:55:35.000 --> 0:55:37.799 Finals MVP, but he also wanted to be the lead horse, 0:55:37.800 --> 0:55:39.080 and it feels like he doesn't get a lot of 0:55:39.120 --> 0:55:41.400 that credit because of what the Warriors established before he 0:55:41.520 --> 0:55:43.239 joined the team, no doubt, and. 0:55:43.360 --> 0:55:47.000 I think that was something that annoyed him as time 0:55:47.080 --> 0:55:50.680 went on and ultimately led to him leaving. I also 0:55:50.800 --> 0:55:54.200 go back to I think he came in and really 0:55:54.680 --> 0:55:58.600 appreciated initially the Warriors culture and the selflessness. And I 0:55:58.680 --> 0:56:01.640 think this is not a state thing, but I think 0:56:02.160 --> 0:56:06.520 he loves playing with, love playing with Steph, loved how 0:56:06.600 --> 0:56:10.800 genuine Steph was as a superstar but also as a human, 0:56:11.440 --> 0:56:13.200 just kind of being up close with him. But I 0:56:13.280 --> 0:56:17.359 also think as time went on, he began to think 0:56:17.440 --> 0:56:20.359 that the Warriors culture was kind of kind of fake, 0:56:20.880 --> 0:56:22.800 like like it was like Steph was at it, but 0:56:22.960 --> 0:56:26.400 like the rest of it was kind of concocted or revised. 0:56:26.440 --> 0:56:28.160 And again I'm not saying he's right, but I think 0:56:28.239 --> 0:56:30.279 that's what his view of it was. And so it 0:56:30.440 --> 0:56:33.520 just kind of got less and less like something he 0:56:33.600 --> 0:56:34.360 wanted to be a part of. 0:56:34.480 --> 0:56:37.120 Ye things got kind of weird at the championship parade 0:56:37.200 --> 0:56:40.040 with Bob myersk and his comments about Steph Curry and 0:56:40.120 --> 0:56:42.440 his contract and how Katie had to earn it, and 0:56:42.520 --> 0:56:45.799 then things got weird and it led to Marcus Thompson said, man, 0:56:46.160 --> 0:56:48.640 Katie l Katie left, and it sounds like there's not 0:56:48.760 --> 0:56:52.000 going to be a reunion anytime soon, but we will 0:56:52.040 --> 0:56:55.040 have a family reunion coming up next because it is 0:56:55.200 --> 0:56:59.839 time for the wide world of Wall Wall get all 0:57:00.120 --> 0:57:02.879 the toughest questions in the sports world. Before we talked 0:57:02.880 --> 0:57:05.000 to Mike Kruc, who had seven thirty, a little forty 0:57:05.040 --> 0:57:07.640 nine er talk with Matt Barrows at eight fifteen, and 0:57:07.840 --> 0:57:10.960 Blade Tidwell, who got his first Giant start last night 0:57:11.200 --> 0:57:14.080 at nine fifteen. This morning, all coming up here on 0:57:14.200 --> 0:57:16.800 the Murph and Marcus Show with John Dickinson filming for MIRF. 0:57:16.960 --> 0:57:18.080 I'm the sports leader