1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: It's the Ray Appleton Podcast from KMJ and kmjnow dot com. 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 2: Today Daily Bus question KMJ now dot com. How big 3 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 2: of a hassle is the fog for you? Ladies and gentlemen, 4 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: Boys and girls, How big of a hassle is the 5 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 2: fog for you? The Daily Buzz is sponsored by Closets 6 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 2: by Design. Okay, moving over to some live stuff from 7 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 2: CNN and the audio file. CNN could find itself in 8 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 2: legal hot water after an exchange between Scott Jennings and 9 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: Cameron Caskey led to the claim that President Donald Trump 10 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 2: was provably part of a human sex trafficking ring. Bingo 11 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 2: was provably part of a human sex trafficking ring, an 12 00:00:55,240 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 2: obvious reference to Jeffrey Epstein's crimes, and as you'll hear 13 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 2: in the transcript here, Kaski, who's now a CNN commentator 14 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 2: for reasons that escape a lot of people, didn't equivocate 15 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 2: when he made the statement and went to double down 16 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 2: when asked to clarify. I mean, this was an ugly mess. 17 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 2: Here was a bit of what went on during the segment, 18 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 2: with Caski telling Jennings Scott Jennings, of course that he's 19 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: not allowed to use the term illegal anymore regarding immigration 20 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 2: Immigration enforcement. Instead, the activist asserts that ICE is targeting 21 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 2: natural born US citizens. That's obviously not true, but isn't 22 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 2: it what was legally questionable. It's the next part where 23 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 2: things get really dicey for CNN and this guy anymore. 24 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: But the person, who are you to tell me what 25 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 1: I can and can's I've never met you, brother, I 26 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: can say whatever I want. They're illegal aliens, and that's 27 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: what the. 28 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 3: Law calls them, illegal aliens. 29 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 2: That's what I'm going to call them. 30 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 3: Listen, you can't say illegals anymore because ICE is directly 31 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 3: targeting legal citizens of this country, and I are going 32 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 3: to enforce your edict on just out of curiosity, I understand. 33 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 3: I just listen to his point about illegal. 34 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 2: I want to know why he gets. 35 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: I want to make you you're point making. 36 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 3: I understand that your job is predicated on just getting 37 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 3: increasingly more demented every single week, and that the audiences 38 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 3: comes back to see if perhaps. 39 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 2: Make your point. 40 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 3: My point is that you're saying the word illegals because 41 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 3: you don't really know what's happening, or actually I think 42 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 3: you do doing this on purpose. 43 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 4: But yes, because I want the law enforced. 44 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 3: They are not just targeting illegal immigrants, they are targeting 45 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 3: natural born US citizens or not. 46 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 2: That is a fact. 47 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 3: You can not deny that. I mean you can on 48 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 3: national television and facts. 49 00:02:59,240 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: All the time. 50 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 3: During a couple of times in this very episode, I. 51 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 4: Still want to know how you're going to enforce your line. 52 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: We'll take that up. 53 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 2: How we're going to enforce the break coming mom, MOMMYA wow? 54 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 2: Who is this Ky Casky. I'm not even that familiar 55 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 2: with him, and he could probably get CNN doing a 56 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 2: lot of trouble with some of the claims he's making. 57 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 2: So okay, okay, okay, let's let's back it up. How 58 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 2: did Casky respond when asked to reiterate his claim? He 59 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 2: doubled down, claiming Donald Trump was provably involved with all 60 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 2: of this horrible stuff that you know. Jeffrey Emstein was 61 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: known for Listen Up initiative. 62 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 3: That the president is being transparent about this. I would 63 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 3: love it if he was more transparent about the human 64 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 3: sex traffic trafficking network that he was a part of. 65 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 3: But you can't win them all. 66 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: Camera's grateful that the president is being transparent about the 67 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: Nobel Peace Prize and it's desires for greenland s Gott, 68 00:03:58,320 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: what do you think about that? 69 00:03:59,040 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 3: You're gonna let that shit? 70 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 4: Are we gonna claim here on CNN that the president 71 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 4: is part of a global sex trafficking ring. 72 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: Or well, I mean, we're gonna talk about the epste 73 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: false Scott, I will do the fact checking. I'm just 74 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: as we go along here, repeat what you said about 75 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: the global sex trafficking. 76 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 3: Ring, that Donald Trump was provably very involved with it. 77 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: Okay, we'll get to that later. I mean, Donald Trump 78 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: has never been charged with any crimes in relation to 79 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein. But we have. But let's be well, we'll 80 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: talk about that. 81 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 2: Satisfied, Holly mackerel, I mean, geez m wow, I don't 82 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 2: know what to say. You know, at one point there 83 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 2: were those with the network that we're beginning to get 84 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 2: a little nervous, and he said ab outright, countering Cashke's 85 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 2: false claim. Though he claimed uh, he simply stated that 86 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 2: Donald Trump had never been charged with any crimes related 87 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 2: to Epstein. Trying to paint the exchange is just a 88 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 2: normal discussion, not really okay, but not but not being 89 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 2: formally charged with a crime doesn't disprove involvement in something, 90 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 2: and by not directly countering Caskie's false statement without qualifiers, 91 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 2: they're left hanging out there with something that's you know, 92 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 2: largely unchallenged. So incredibly Casky attempted to triple down, but 93 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 2: there were those involved with the conversation that managed to 94 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 2: talk over him sarcastically, and I think they were trying 95 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 2: to pull that off intentionally and asking Jennings if he 96 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 2: was satisfied. And I don't know if Jennings was satisfied, 97 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 2: but I bet the CNN lawyers weren't having you know, 98 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 2: arrogant brats like CASKI on the air without enforcing the 99 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 2: boundaries is a good way to end up getting sued. 100 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 2: And keep in mind at ABC News settled with Trump 101 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 2: for fifteen million dollars in damages. This was after one 102 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 2: of its on air personalities falsely claimed that Donald Trump 103 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 2: raped raped e Gene Carroll, remember that, claiming that he 104 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 2: was a part of a human sex trafficking ring. That 105 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 2: doesn't strike me as any less serious. So the lawyers 106 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 2: are going to have a field day with this. I'm 107 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 2: sure there will be an internal email set out, but 108 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 2: perhaps CNN should be a little bit more selective of 109 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 2: whom they put on the air if I were Trump, 110 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 2: at the very least, I tried to extricate a formal 111 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 2: correction and an apology from CNN and CASKI. But here 112 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 2: we go. I mean, this one could be right off 113 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 2: to the right, off to the attorneys again. 114 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 4: So you asked who this guy was. He's twenty five 115 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 4: years old. He's a Democrat. 116 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 2: He's a young guy. 117 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, he was a Parkland shooter survivor. Oh good, Yeah, 118 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 4: so he's pretty young. And he's also twenty twenty six 119 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 4: US House New York District twelve candidate as well. 120 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 2: And he's a he's now a big wig with CNN. Huh. 121 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 2: That's really a blown away, sort of kind of sort 122 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 2: of kind of blown away. But I mean, he's got 123 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 2: to learn the ways of the network and what you 124 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 2: say might get you in deep doodoo, And that seems 125 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 2: like it's going to be some deep doodoo.