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Speaker 1: And the sweetest sound to the Giants hitter ears is

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Speaker 3: Back to the Giants fan Fest warm up show with

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Speaker 3: Bill Laski on the Sports Leader. All right, welcome back.

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Speaker 3: The gates are open, Giants fans are here. We are

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Speaker 3: home of the Sacramento river Cats, Sutter Health Ballpark. A

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Speaker 3: gorgeous day here in Sacramento. Of course, that clip that

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Speaker 3: right here signing autographs, taking some photos. Had eight year

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Speaker 3: Of course, he was a National League All Star in

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Speaker 1: Hey Bo? Happy super Bowl week? Let's talk some baseball. Right,

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Speaker 1: football season's ultimate point, but it also means spring training

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Speaker 1: right around the corner. And you got me pumped up

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Speaker 1: anytime you hear John Miller's voice calling a Giant's home run.

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Speaker 1: How can you not get a little excited about baseball?

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Speaker 1: And you know what, I got to compliment you on

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Speaker 1: that interview with greg Or Blanco because you know, three

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Speaker 1: or four times during that interview Gregor said, great questioned Bill,

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Speaker 3: I got a few for you now, Mark, you know

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Speaker 3: I'm all ready for you. Now, you know I gotta

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Speaker 1: Vanya is here, so judge if your questions are good.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's even Hey, you know what, that's all I

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Speaker 1: Right? Well?

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Speaker 3: Mark, you know you start a new season, and you know,

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Speaker 3: and I've talked several times over the winner, and you

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Speaker 1: Well, I think what Buster's strategy and I'm just kind

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Speaker 1: You're a legacy franchise that should be talked about in

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Speaker 3: I mean, we've seen signings in spring training. When they

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Speaker 3: His whole career, the Madison Bumgardner's, the Matt Kaines, all

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Speaker 1: When you bring in a guy who has no previous

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 3: You are so right on you're so right on how

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Speaker 1: I agree with that, And you know, I've heard Busters

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Speaker 3: Come on, you're so right, And you know you said

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Speaker 1: It really is on paper, that's a gruesome way to

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Speaker 3: At that and you know, it doesn't get easier. It

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Speaker 3: Do you think Buster Posey has done building this roster? Mark?

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Speaker 1: Well, the fan in me says right off to that,

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Speaker 3: I think so too. I agree, And you know, we

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Speaker 1: I couldn't agree with you more. Bill. I think that

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Speaker 3: I totally agree with her. Well, Mark, you started this

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Speaker 3: What's your thought on the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: I think that it's very hard for me to root

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Speaker 1: You know, yeah, bet bet with your brain not your heart.

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Speaker 3: Well, Mark, I want to thank you for your time today, buddy.

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Speaker 1: Mark, my pleasure, Bill, and uh talk baseball with you

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Speaker 1: anytime all day. It's all good man. Baseball's here. I'm

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Speaker 3: Oh it's awesome, awesome place. All right, Mark, don thank

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Speaker 3: you for so much. I appreciate your time. Once again.

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Speaker 3: That was Marca Bannia is on the warm up show.

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