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Speaker 1: This poll also asked how the respondents would feel about

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Speaker 1: partisan Democrats. If this polling is accurate, it is very

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Speaker 1: the book Full's Gold The Radicals, con Artists and Traders

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Speaker 1: who Killed the California Dream and now Threaten Us, All

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Speaker 1: exit Susan Crabtree Susan Crabtree, Welcome, Thanks proving me so

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Speaker 1: before we get to the governor's race, which is what

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Speaker 1: I want to get into with you, this poll that

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Speaker 1: of the city ten years ago, fifteen years ago, twenty

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well, I mean Karen Bass was pretty much

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Speaker 6: Those games it felt like crack cocaine. It was like ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: Got to keep an eye on those things. Can you imagine?

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Speaker 8: The ABC seven Eyewitness News item has been working on

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Speaker 8: The High Stakes of Youth Gambling and Dan Noises here

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Speaker 2: Well, Dan and Ama.

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Speaker 3: I had no idea some of the games I watched

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Speaker 1: Well, there are people who are pretty good, and there

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Speaker 9: He dropped out of college.

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Speaker 4: Just remember, Johnny, this is how you could end up.

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Speaker 1: I'm not that bad, I said, could I'm more disciplined

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Speaker 9: He dropped out of college, and that's when his parents

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Speaker 10: He went to a rehab and then that didn't really work,

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Speaker 1: And then we find what gambling rehab is like, Oh,

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Speaker 10: and then he kind of went back to the same things,

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Speaker 10: and then we finally had to just draw the line

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Speaker 10: because he was going down real fast.

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Speaker 11: So it was a tough year, though, it was.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it was a tough couple of years. Yeah, it

439
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Speaker 10: was really bad.

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Speaker 6: No matter what they did or what they said, or

441
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Speaker 6: no matter what action they took I was going to

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Speaker 6: keep gambling, like if I had to be homeless and

443
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Speaker 6: continue gambling, like, that's what I was gonna do.

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Speaker 4: WHOA. So at that point, what do you do?

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Speaker 1: Because I get to imagine, if you're homeless, your options

446
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Speaker 1: are limited to scratchers.

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Speaker 4: Well, I don't even think you can afford those.

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Speaker 9: The Fordenberg's Journey illustrates a growing and startling trend. A

449
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Speaker 9: recently conducted survey of more than one thousand adolescent boys

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Speaker 9: age eleventh through seventeen across the country found that thirty

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Speaker 9: six percent of boys gambled in twenty twenty five, including you.

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Speaker 1: Over a third of teenage boys are gambling even though

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Speaker 1: it's not supposed to be legal. So I read something

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Speaker 1: about the motivation, the psychological motivation of wanting to gamble,

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Speaker 1: and it was interesting because you think, okay, the motivation

456
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Speaker 1: of gambling is you want the jackpot, you want to

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Speaker 1: win big, you want all the money. But according to experts,

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Speaker 1: the motivation to gamble is not the jackpot, it's not

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Speaker 1: winning the money. It's the fear of losing. It's the

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Speaker 1: same motivation that one has when they jump out of

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Speaker 1: an airplane and they're skydiving. You're not doing it for

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Speaker 1: the view, I know that's how they sell it in

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Speaker 1: the brochure.

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Speaker 4: You're doing it because you.

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Speaker 1: Want to see if something goes wrong and you hit

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Speaker 1: the ground and splaid.

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Speaker 9: Including nearly half of seventeen year olds. Jim Star is

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Speaker 9: CEO of Common Sense, a leading advocacy group out of

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Speaker 9: San Francisco, who publish the study.

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Speaker 12: I think the clear message for parents here is that

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Speaker 12: you have to have an ongoing discussion with your kids

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Speaker 12: about this all day, about not just media and technology,

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Speaker 12: but now about the gambling factor.

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Speaker 1: Well, and I'm guessing age gating just doesn't seem to

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Speaker 1: work at all for some of these apps. No, the

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Speaker 1: kids are smarter than the people who write the apps.

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Speaker 1: The parents don't even know what some of these apps are.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you have to be under thirty to even

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Speaker 1: understand where all this nonsense is.

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Speaker 9: With prediction markets, we contacted some of the major online

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Speaker 9: gaming companies for comment, including FanDuel, DraftKings, and bet MGM.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, fantasy is also a whole big part of

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Speaker 1: this fantasy is gambling. It's well, there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: things out there that are technically gambed that we don't

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Speaker 1: regard it as such. Bingo is technically gambling. Playing the

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Speaker 1: stock market is technically gambling.

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Speaker 9: We contacted some of the major online gaming companies for comment,

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Speaker 9: including Fenduel, DraftKings and bet MGM. They refer us to

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Speaker 9: a trade.

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Speaker 1: Now they have little consoles in the seats at the

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Speaker 1: A Stadium in Vegas where you can gamble on every

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Speaker 1: single at bat.

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Speaker 4: If they're they're smart, they will.

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Speaker 9: They refer us to a trade group the Sports Betting

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Speaker 9: Alliance that said youth betting on those platforms is not tolerated.

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Speaker 1: And I got to imagine the technology has made this

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Speaker 1: stuff so much more addictive. Even when you look at

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Speaker 1: sports betting, it used to be that you have your

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Speaker 1: spread and that's the game. Now, because of the live updates,

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Speaker 1: the odds are changing every minute and you can be betting.

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Speaker 1: And this is true for fantasy and for just book making.

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Speaker 1: Every ten minutes you can bet on something new. I

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Speaker 1: know people who went from not making a lot of

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Speaker 1: money doing okay to making a ton of money, and

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Speaker 1: the first thing that happened to them, the first real

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Speaker 1: change in their life, was they got in trouble betting

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Speaker 1: on sports almost immediately.

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Speaker 13: It is a violation of the terms of service, and

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Speaker 13: we are not here to engage in a conversation between

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Speaker 13: parent or child, but we do communicate very very clearly

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Speaker 13: this is a product for adults, and adults only.

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Speaker 14: One of the problems.

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Speaker 1: That's right, and kids totally listen to those warnings, just

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Speaker 1: like with pornosites.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: If there's one thing we know about teenagers, we know

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Speaker 1: they read the brochure.

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Speaker 14: One of the problems with online sports betting and online

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Speaker 14: gambling in general is this much harder to verify the

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Speaker 14: age of the person who is doing that compared to

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Speaker 14: if you were to go to the racetrack and try

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Speaker 14: to play.

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Speaker 4: A bet there.

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Speaker 1: The director of I don't think any seventeen year olds

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six are going to Santa Anita, Nope.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's part of the problem that Las

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Speaker 1: Vegas is suffering from. And agers obviously wouldn't be able

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Speaker 1: to gamble in those casinos, But I don't think they

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Speaker 1: would gamble in those casinos if given the option. I

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Speaker 1: think they prefer to do it on their phone.

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Speaker 9: The director of Columbia University, Man.

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Speaker 1: If you've got a real monkey on your back, you

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Speaker 1: think of the two hundred dollars plus resort fees you're

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Speaker 1: paying for a hotel room. That's money you could be

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Speaker 1: putting into the app. Well, there was just something that

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Speaker 1: came out today about the abysmal ticket sales numbers at

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Speaker 1: the movie theaters. Apparently no one's going to the movies again.

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Speaker 1: Wait till this weekend. What's coming out this weekend? The

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Speaker 1: big Mario movie, Super Mario. Yeah, okay, well that'll bring

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Speaker 1: people in. But for the most part, the movie theater

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Speaker 1: doesn't excite people the way it used to in the eighties,

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Speaker 1: nineties and before. Well, nowadays you look at something and say, well, yes,

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Speaker 1: I could pay one hundred dollars to see that now,

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Speaker 1: or I could wait three months and it'll be on

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Speaker 1: my Netflix that I'm paying one hundred dollars a month for.

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Speaker 9: That's true, the director of Columbia University.

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Speaker 1: And in one of those situations, I don't have to

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Speaker 1: wear pants.

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Speaker 9: The director of Columbia University's gambling Disorders clinic tells ABC

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Speaker 9: News they are seeing children as young as thirteen with

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Speaker 9: serious addictions that have a similar effect on the brain

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Speaker 9: as drug addiction.

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Speaker 14: It's a looming public health crist.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, all the companies that operate this

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Speaker 1: stuff should be paying attention right now to what happened

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Speaker 1: with that social media lawsuit where Meta and Google are

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Speaker 1: paying millions of dollars to a teenager that brain was

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Speaker 1: scrambled by this technology. I don't understand why they're responsible.

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Speaker 1: They make a product that people like. Well, of course,

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Speaker 1: if people like it, it's going to get addictive. So

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Speaker 1: now what it's illegal to make a product too likable?

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Speaker 4: Ask the tobacco companies. I didn't agree with that one either.

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Speaker 14: Looming public health crisis. In fact, it's already here.

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Speaker 9: The Freudenberg's hope their crisis is behind them. Kim has

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Speaker 9: launch a nonprofit called Parents Danding Together to spread the

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Speaker 9: word about the risks and harm of gambling for youth.

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Speaker 9: She has also begun holding gambling addiction seminars at Sacred

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Speaker 9: Heart Cathedral and other schools.

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Speaker 6: So here's what we're going to do.

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Speaker 10: What gambling is and what it does to your brain,

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Speaker 10: how gambling can be dangerous, warning signs of harm, and

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Speaker 10: what to do if you suspect.

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Speaker 1: A problem, and how many people in those seminars hold

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Speaker 1: their hands them and say, yeah, but what if you

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Speaker 1: win big I mean, look, it is the only addiction

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Speaker 1: that you could actually profit from.

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Speaker 4: That's true.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's part of the problem here is you

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Speaker 1: think that you're going to make it big one day,

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Speaker 1: but if you're addicted to booze or you're addicted to drugs,

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Speaker 1: there is no possible way that ends well. Well, And

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Speaker 1: here's how it works. There's always peaks and valleys. You

583
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Speaker 1: are going to hit hand pays, you are going to

584
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Speaker 1: hit jackpots if you press the button enough, and you

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Speaker 1: are going to have days where you can't hit anything.

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing. Over the life of the game,

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Speaker 1: the house is always going to win. That's how it works.

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Speaker 1: Over the life of the game, the house wins. That's

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Speaker 1: how they pay for all those big towers in Vegas.

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Speaker 9: And Kurt Is in recovery, hasn't placed a bet in

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Speaker 9: two years. He's back in college a psychiatry major. He

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Speaker 9: wants to research gambling addiction and help others who have

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Speaker 9: suffered like he did.

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Speaker 11: So, Kurt, if you could talk to a young person,

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Speaker 11: perhaps even your eleven year old self, what would you

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Speaker 11: want them to know?

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Speaker 6: I would tell them that gambling is like a drug.

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Speaker 6: It is the same. It functions on the brain, the

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Speaker 6: same as a drug, and it will destroy your life.

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Speaker 6: People are willing to throw away everything they have for gambling,

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Speaker 6: and I know that from first time experience, I was

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Speaker 6: willing to discard every good thing in my life just

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Speaker 6: to get another bat.

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Speaker 11: Seeing him now and where he's at, it must be

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Speaker 11: a pretty good thing for you as a model.

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Speaker 10: It's really awesome. And I'm so proud of him for

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Speaker 10: so proud of him for out because it's not easy,

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Speaker 10: right and we need more people to speak out.

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Speaker 3: And Kim tells me it's important for parents to add

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Speaker 3: gambling to the list of topics for discussion with your kids. Now,

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Speaker 3: Kurt says he got involved with gamblers Anonymous and that's

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Speaker 3: been very helpful as he faces challenges in his recovery.

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Speaker 4: So there you go.

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Speaker 1: The new studies show that over thirty three percent of teenagers,

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Speaker 1: specifically teenage boys this is not a teenage girl thing,

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Speaker 1: are already into gambling and they're gambling a lot. So

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Speaker 1: what do you think he's addicted to now, food, exercise,

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Speaker 1: and religion. And right now it's time to open up

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Speaker 1: the California crime blodder.

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Speaker 4: It's happened yet again. This Wow, Wow, What's not here?

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Speaker 12: Dun dun dun dunk dundun dun dun dunk.

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Speaker 9: Rereads the Califonia Crime Blodder.

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Speaker 15: With Jun.

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Speaker 1: And this edition takes us to Valencia, specifically to a

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Speaker 1: Whole food Dudes where somebody decided to drop trou and

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Speaker 1: start harassing the customers. In the produce section. For more

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Speaker 1: on this, or where is it hold on? Where is

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Speaker 1: my story? Here?

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Speaker 4: Here?

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Speaker 1: We got twenty I know it just wasn't loaded. For

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Speaker 1: more on this, here's kt LA after I turn off

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Speaker 1: the music.

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Speaker 7: A search for a saspect who committed a shocking act

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Speaker 7: at a whole foods market in Valencia.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 16: In the story you'll see only on five deputies say

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Speaker 16: that a man exposed himself and then in a.

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Speaker 4: That doesn't sound very organic.

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Speaker 16: Nope, suspecting woman while she was shopping. Rachel Mentov joining

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Speaker 16: us live from Santa Clarita. She has details on this.

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Speaker 4: Rachel Rick Kreein.

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Speaker 15: We want to warn you with plenty of time that

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Speaker 15: this video is disturbing. The Sheriff's department responded to the

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Speaker 15: Whole Foods on Monday, soon after the incident, but the

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Speaker 15: man had already left. His intrusive and inappropriate behavior, though

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Speaker 15: was captured on camera and the Sheriff's department is hopeful

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Speaker 15: that this footage helps them locate him. He was wearing

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Speaker 15: a denim shirt.

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Speaker 1: Now are they able to identify him with his face

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Speaker 1: or well? I think you can make certain assumptions. For example,

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Speaker 1: if it was bigger, this would have happened at Costco.

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Speaker 15: Was wearing a denim shirt, jeans. He's a man in

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Speaker 15: his mid thirties, and he approached a woman shopping in

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Speaker 15: one of the aisles and appears to run his genitalia

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Speaker 15: on her ear while.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that is so inappropriate on so many levels.

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Speaker 15: Holding what looks to be a cell phone in his hand.

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Speaker 15: Authorities are investigating this as a sexual battery, and people

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Speaker 15: who regularly shop here say it's disturbing, it's horrible, and

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Speaker 15: it's not something you'd expect around here.

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Speaker 1: Usually you expect just to be taken advantage of by

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Speaker 1: the pricing at Hull Foods. So how is he going

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Speaker 1: to explain this away? Teenage hygiks?

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Speaker 17: I guess you're not use to it out here Santa Clarita,

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Speaker 17: especially Whole Foods, But.

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Speaker 4: Well, do you think it's okay at Ralph's? How about

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Speaker 4: Trader Joe's, you know.

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Speaker 17: At the same time, it doesn't shock me either, because

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Speaker 17: you see this stuff happening all the time.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what could have prompted it. I think

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Speaker 5: that I think we need to look a lot more

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Speaker 5: at giving people, you know, help with mental problems.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, that's not what this is.

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Speaker 4: She's part of the problem.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure exactly what happened, but from what I see,

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Speaker 1: that is insane.

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Speaker 14: It's pretty again appropriate, and I have reached out.

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Speaker 4: To Hold, So there you go.

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Speaker 1: Whole Foods is reacting saying that this is completely not

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Speaker 1: allowed in their stores.

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Speaker 4: But it's not looking good. And he had a thing

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Speaker 4: for ears. I don't know what that's about.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he stays up all night watching reruns of Carol Burnett. Look,

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Speaker 1: this is not a mental health thing. If you're doing

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Speaker 1: that inside of a Whole Foods and sexually assaulting a

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Speaker 1: woman shopping at the Whole Foods, there's only one place

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Speaker 1: for you. We don't send many people there, but there's

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Speaker 1: only one place for you, and that's prison. Imagine if

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Speaker 1: you were shopping in that supermarket on that particular day,

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Speaker 1: you were that person who was assaulted by this man.

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Speaker 4: Uh huh.

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Speaker 1: You come home and the husband's sitting there in the

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Speaker 1: easy chair and goes, what'd you bring home for dinner?

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Speaker 4: I think we got to go