WEBVTT - Becerra In Hiding?

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<v Speaker 1>Some might label us right wing. We say clip our

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<v Speaker 2>And a very happy Wednesday to you at 12.07 in

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<v Speaker 3>and make sure to participate in our scientific poll. If

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<v Speaker 3>Javier Becerra wins, would he be a worse governor than

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<v Speaker 3>Gavin Newsom? Currently 97% of the vote says absolutely. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>Scrub it.

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<v Speaker 3>With 3% of the vote, they say, hell no, baby boy.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, hell no, baby boy.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me get up on out of here.

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<v Speaker 2>800-222-5222 is the telephone number. 1-800-222-5222. All right, Randy, are

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<v Speaker 2>you ready for a pop quiz?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. I need you to tell me what the following

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<v Speaker 2>individuals have in common. Are you ready? I'm ready. The

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<v Speaker 2>Lindbergh baby. Natalie Holloway. Nancy Guthrie's mother. And Javier Becerra.

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<v Speaker 3>Boy, I really wish you hadn't said the third one.

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<v Speaker 3>They're all missing.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. You win the 64 silver dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Scrub it.

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<v Speaker 3>It is debate day in San Francisco as Steve Hilton

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<v Speaker 3>will be debating Javier Becerra on CNN, moderated by Jake

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<v Speaker 3>Tapper and Dana Bash for some reason. And Javier Becerra

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<v Speaker 3>is still nowhere to be found. This is like the

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<v Speaker 3>finale episodes of a season of Love is Blind, and

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<v Speaker 3>they haven't found the groom that's supposed to go on

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<v Speaker 3>the stage.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to put his face all over milk cartons

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<v Speaker 2>in the state of California. Because that guy is missing

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<v Speaker 2>in action.

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<v Speaker 3>Because the debate is being hosted on CNN, the California-based

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<v Speaker 3>host of CNN, Alex Michelson, put together a little preview. And,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, when you do a preview for the debate

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<v Speaker 3>on your cable network, you want a little pre-interview with

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<v Speaker 3>the candidate to see what they're going to say, what

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<v Speaker 3>they're feeling about the debate. Steve Hilton sat down with

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<v Speaker 3>Alex Michelson. Hell, Steve Hilton sat down for a 20-minute

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<v Speaker 3>interview on NBC Bay Area. Javier Baccaria said, said he

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't do the pre-interview for the debate with Alex because

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<v Speaker 3>of scheduling conflicts. And then when Alex asked what those

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<v Speaker 3>scheduling conflicts were, they had no answer.

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<v Speaker 2>What are all these scheduling conflicts? What is he doing

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<v Speaker 2>that's so important where he can't do the normal things

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<v Speaker 2>that a candidate does when they're running for office? Is

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<v Speaker 2>he at the beauty parlor that often? Is he at

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<v Speaker 2>one of these massage parlors at a strip mall?

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<v Speaker 3>Yum, yum, number two.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe he's taking art classes. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>The only legitimate reason to be this unavailable all the

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<v Speaker 3>time for everybody as you're running for governor is he's

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<v Speaker 3>going to kidney dialysis three times a week, and I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think he has diabetes.

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<v Speaker 2>Or maybe Dana Williamson does.

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<v Speaker 3>For more on tonight's debate that will air on CNN

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<v Speaker 3>at 6 p.m., And the missing in action candidate who

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<v Speaker 3>is supposed to be one of the two on the stage.

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<v Speaker 3>Here is a report from.

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<v Speaker 2>Hang on, hang on, hang on. No, Javier is not

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<v Speaker 2>in there.

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<v Speaker 3>If you have seen Javier Becerra, please let us know.

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<v Speaker 3>In the meantime, here's a report from our friend, Alex

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<v Speaker 3>Michelson and CNN.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's a look at why California and this race matters.

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<v Speaker 3>Because the rest of the country has to watch this

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<v Speaker 3>thing and they're like, why?

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<v Speaker 1>California's current governor often says this state is the country's

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<v Speaker 1>coming attractions.

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<v Speaker 3>It's one of those stupid things he spiels over and

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<v Speaker 3>over and over and over again.

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<v Speaker 1>It's home to 39 million Americans, the fourth largest economy

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<v Speaker 1>in the world, and many of the world's leading companies

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<v Speaker 1>in tech, entertainment, agriculture, and more. Gavin Newsom is termed out,

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<v Speaker 1>and one of these two candidates will replace him and

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<v Speaker 1>write California.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know where they found that file photo of Becerra,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's an interesting one.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, probably from about 10 years ago, because that's the

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<v Speaker 2>last time we've seen him.

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<v Speaker 1>Scrub it. His next chapter.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you ready?

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<v Speaker 1>Democrat Javier Becerra came in first.

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<v Speaker 2>You know the last time I've seen him? When's that?

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<v Speaker 2>Caitlyn was still bruised.

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<v Speaker 1>In a bruising, expensive primary battle against a crowded field,

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<v Speaker 1>he's the son of Mexican immigrants. He became a member

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<v Speaker 1>of Congress in 1993. It seems to me we have

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<v Speaker 1>to find a way to provide money to the pot.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't help, at least in my opinion, that he's

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<v Speaker 3>been around for that long.

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<v Speaker 2>This guy has been around since Hector was a pup

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<v Speaker 2>because before he became Secretary of Health and Human Services,

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<v Speaker 2>he was the appointed Attorney General of California. Thanks, Jerry Brown.

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<v Speaker 2>Before that, he was a multi-decade congressman representing the east

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<v Speaker 2>side of Los Angeles. And prior to that, he was

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<v Speaker 2>in the California Assembly. He's been around forever. What does

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<v Speaker 2>he have to show for any of it?

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing. He is, as Steve Hilton describes him... the emptiest

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<v Speaker 3>of empty suits.

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<v Speaker 1>He served as California's Attorney General and then as President

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden's Secretary of Health and Human Services.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not the name of the job or his name.

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<v Speaker 4>For Secretary of Health and Education, I nominate Javier Baccaria.

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<v Speaker 3>And let's not forget, Johnny, the Biden administration tried to

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<v Speaker 3>make sure that no one ever saw Becerra while he

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<v Speaker 3>had that job because they knew he was an idiot.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm saying. He's been in the witness protection

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<v Speaker 2>program for years.

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<v Speaker 1>Becerra has kept a relatively low profile since the June primary.

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<v Speaker 1>We will not be bought. We will not be bullied.

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<v Speaker 3>We will not be bought. Didn't you just tell the

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<v Speaker 3>San Francisco Standard yesterday that you would love to take

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<v Speaker 3>money from Purdue Pharma?

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<v Speaker 2>Does he wear tinted glasses indoors?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's one of those. Maybe he's got the transitions frames.

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<v Speaker 1>And we are never backing down.

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<v Speaker 2>You know where he could be? If we haven't seen

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<v Speaker 2>this guy in years and no one can get a

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<v Speaker 2>hold of him, no one can get him to show

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<v Speaker 2>up to anything. No one knows where he is. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>he has courtside season seats at the WNBA.

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<v Speaker 3>You're only going to be able to do that joke

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<v Speaker 3>for like another year or two because the WNBA is

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<v Speaker 3>getting popular.

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Hilton has been virtually everywhere.

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<v Speaker 5>I feel this incredible energy everywhere we go.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a Trump endorsed Republican who once worked in the

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<v Speaker 1>British government with Prime Minister David Cameron, then served as

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<v Speaker 1>a Fox News host and is now a first time candidate.

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<v Speaker 3>He looks better with the beard.

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<v Speaker 2>He does.

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<v Speaker 5>Wake up, California.

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<v Speaker 2>Change is coming.

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Hilton is trying to be the first Republican to

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<v Speaker 1>win statewide in California in 20 years.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, wait a minute, though. He's not the first candidate

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<v Speaker 2>for governor to work for the British government. Did you

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<v Speaker 2>know that?

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<v Speaker 3>I did not know that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Jerry Brown worked for King George when he

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<v Speaker 2>was a young man. Hi, Arnold Schwarzenegger.

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<v Speaker 1>The last Republican governor was Arnold Schwarzenegger, then a famous.

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<v Speaker 3>Who's been palling around with Nithya this week.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what's the deal with that?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, he probably wants the spite vote. There's no good option,

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<v Speaker 3>so at least we can kick Karen out of that

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<v Speaker 3>Getty house.

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<v Speaker 2>How did she even enter in his orbit? I know

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<v Speaker 2>she's got a husband that works in Hollywood. So maybe

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<v Speaker 2>he's looking for a role in one of that guy's

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<v Speaker 2>sitcoms or something. Or maybe she's got an attractive maid.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>That guy used to work for The Daily Show. Maybe

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<v Speaker 3>Arnold wants to be a correspondent.

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<v Speaker 2>Could be.

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<v Speaker 1>This movie star married into the Kennedy family. Hi, Jerry Brown.

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<v Speaker 1>Since then, there's been 16 straight years.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, Gavin Newsom.

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<v Speaker 1>Of Democrats controlling all of state government.

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<v Speaker 2>Enough is enough. Enough is enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Hilton points out that California has the country's highest gas prices.

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<v Speaker 2>Fact check true. And it's not even close.

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<v Speaker 1>The most people experiencing homelessness.

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<v Speaker 2>Fact check true. Half of the nation's unhoused. And by unhoused,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not being politically correct. I mean people living on

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<v Speaker 2>the sidewalks, in the parks, and on the streets.

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<v Speaker 1>The most expensive housing.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, San Jose is the most expensive housing market

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<v Speaker 3>in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>On the stump, Hilton often references this CNN interview. where

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<v Speaker 1>I asked Becerra how he's different from Governor Newsom. What

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<v Speaker 1>changes from a policy perspective? What's different with you than

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<v Speaker 1>what we've seen over the last four years with Governor Newsom?

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get things done. I think you're suggesting he hasn't? No,

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<v Speaker 1>he's done quite a few things, but we'll get more

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<v Speaker 1>things done. We'll get them done a lot faster.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't... That's what he is. If you think Bob

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<v Speaker 2>Bonta has a monopoly on the bucket full of cliches,

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<v Speaker 2>you're wrong. Javier Baccaria uses just as many.

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<v Speaker 1>Scrub it.

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<v Speaker 3>It is shocking every single time I see an interview,

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<v Speaker 3>and maybe this is the reason that Becerra's in hiding

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<v Speaker 3>instead of doing the pre-interview with Alex. That's the guy

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<v Speaker 3>of all the choices. Oh, the Katie Porters that Matt

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<v Speaker 3>Mahan's obviously not the Swalwells, but that was the guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know.

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<v Speaker 3>Tom Steyer spent a jillion dollars, but still that's the guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, this is Kamala Harris's fault because everyone assumed that

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<v Speaker 2>she was going to run and she took forever to

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<v Speaker 2>decide against it. So a lot of the people who

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<v Speaker 2>would have been credible candidates decided to run for something

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<v Speaker 2>else or do something else instead of run for governor.

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<v Speaker 2>And you can probably throw Rick Caruso into that category.

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<v Speaker 3>You also had Bob Bonta considering running for governor, but

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<v Speaker 3>he might be getting indicted soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe.

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<v Speaker 3>Trials next month.

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<v Speaker 5>We have an answer. So he's clearly saying basically things

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<v Speaker 5>are fine. Maybe a little tweak here and there. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>saying they're not fine.

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<v Speaker 1>That message resonates with Hilton supporters. I see a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of problems with high taxes.

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<v Speaker 3>I think California is in a heap of trouble. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm really concerned about my children, my grandchildren.

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<v Speaker 1>But does that message play with non-Republicans? A recent PPIC

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<v Speaker 1>poll shows just 27 percent of likely California voters approve

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<v Speaker 1>of Trump's job performance. There are twice as many Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>versus Republicans in this state. And in a place like

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<v Speaker 1>this farmer's market, voters say President Trump's endorsement of Hilton

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<v Speaker 1>is a deal breaker.

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<v Speaker 5>Bam!

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, did you have to do that, Trump? Couldn't you

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<v Speaker 3>have left this race alone?

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<v Speaker 2>Helped him in the primary, not so much in the general.

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<v Speaker 5>You got it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think that Trump and his party has the

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<v Speaker 6>best intentions for California.

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<v Speaker 7>I think anyone who's backed by MAGA at this point

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<v Speaker 7>just has lost, should be losing everyone's vote.

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<v Speaker 1>Hilton hopes to change that dynamic at CNN's debate this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Among the pressing issues, housing affordability, the future of AI, immigration,

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<v Speaker 1>and dealing with the president.

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<v Speaker 3>That's because this is a national debate on a national

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<v Speaker 3>network instead of, you know, all of the issues that

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<v Speaker 3>Californians are dealing with every day. How is high-speed rail

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<v Speaker 3>not on there?

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<v Speaker 2>Which is exactly what we warned against. This is why

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<v Speaker 2>Jake Tapper and Dana Bass should not be moderating this debate.

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<v Speaker 3>And you have to wonder, was the only way that

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<v Speaker 3>Baccaria agreed to come out of hiding to do this

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<v Speaker 3>debate is if it was a national focus?

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<v Speaker 1>Debate the most important day of the campaign.

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<v Speaker 5>So far, for sure, it'll be the moment when that

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<v Speaker 5>choice is really clear.

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<v Speaker 1>Our panel is back. Politico's California Bureau Chief Melanie Mason

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<v Speaker 1>and CNN senior political analyst Ron Brownstein. Welcome back, both

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<v Speaker 1>of you. I should point out that we asked Javier

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<v Speaker 1>Becerra for an interview for that, and we were told

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<v Speaker 1>that he is scheduling conflicts. We asked for public events

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<v Speaker 1>that he was hosting in the days ahead, and he

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<v Speaker 1>said that they were doing private events. So That kind

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<v Speaker 1>of tells you about that campaign.

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<v Speaker 3>There you go. Javier Becerra. Javier Becerra could not do

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<v Speaker 3>a quick little fluff pre-interview promoting the debate he's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be on, and he has no actual reason as

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<v Speaker 3>to what he's doing instead.

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<v Speaker 2>He's washing his hair.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got scheduling conflicts. That's why he can't sit down

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<v Speaker 3>with Ashley Zavala. He's got scheduling conflicts, why he couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>sit down with the Southern California News Group and their

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<v Speaker 3>editorial board. He's got scheduling conflicts, so he can't sit

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<v Speaker 3>down with Julie Watts. He's going to have so many

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<v Speaker 3>scheduling conflicts. Meanwhile, he's not doing anything. You want to

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<v Speaker 3>hear what the panel has to say about him?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's listen.

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<v Speaker 1>And yet he's doing this debate, and it is probably

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest moment of this whole campaign.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, look, I mean, you have sort of the national

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<v Speaker 6>eye of CNN. I mean, I do think it nationalizes

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<v Speaker 6>this race. I mean, obviously, there are a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>California-specific issues that these candidates are going to have to

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<v Speaker 6>talk about. But I think the fact that it is

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<v Speaker 6>going to be in this setting and we're going to

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<v Speaker 6>have it in the context of these broader midterms, I think,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, naturally, the conversation is going to be a

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<v Speaker 6>lot about President Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what we're going to get.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not watching this thing live. I don't even have CNN.

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<v Speaker 3>Hopefully they post it on YouTube and I will scroll

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<v Speaker 3>through it for good stuff. But this seems like an

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<v Speaker 3>hour and a half of my life I will not

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<v Speaker 3>get back.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to talk about a rigged election. You have

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<v Speaker 2>an election where one candidate doesn't even campaign because they

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<v Speaker 2>know they don't have to. The voters are denied a

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<v Speaker 2>discussion about the problems and proposed solutions for the state

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<v Speaker 2>because we're going to get a national election. cable channel

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<v Speaker 2>talking about Donald Trump for two hours. This is an

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<v Speaker 2>election that essentially is happening in a vacuum.

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<v Speaker 6>That's exactly what Javier Becerra wants this debate to be

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<v Speaker 6>about because that's the ground that he's most comfortable on.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I do think one public event that he

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<v Speaker 6>has had.

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<v Speaker 3>So what you're saying is Javier Becerra is not comfortable

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<v Speaker 3>talking about California issues?

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<v Speaker 2>How could he be? His party has wrecked the state.

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<v Speaker 3>And he has no answers for how he's going to

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<v Speaker 3>be any different.

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<v Speaker 6>Recently is for against Proposition 39, which is this voter

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<v Speaker 6>ID initiative. And what does he talk about? That this

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<v Speaker 6>is a Trump backed initiative to impose voter ID. He

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<v Speaker 6>wants to talk about President Trump and how he is

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<v Speaker 6>in opposition to him because that's the type of message

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<v Speaker 6>that resonates with California voters.

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<v Speaker 3>Someone did email us if they should play the Trump

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<v Speaker 3>drinking game in today's debate. And we cannot advise that

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<v Speaker 3>because we don't want anyone to become the next Dana Williamson.

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<v Speaker 1>We're grateful that he agreed to the only debate here

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<v Speaker 1>on CNN, but is not doing local debates, maybe for

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<v Speaker 1>that reason.

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<v Speaker 3>Six different local outlets put out debates. Steve Hilton said

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<v Speaker 3>yes to all of them. Becerra had scheduling conflicts to

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<v Speaker 3>all of them, except for the national one on CNN,

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<v Speaker 3>where it looks like he got to pick the moderators,

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<v Speaker 3>because we just have to point this out. Why are

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<v Speaker 3>you not having the California-based political reporter doing this debate? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe Jake Tapper and Dana Bash are higher profile, but

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<v Speaker 3>Alex and Dana did the primary debate. Why would you

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<v Speaker 3>not use the guy who knows what's going on in

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<v Speaker 3>California better than anyone else at CNN?

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<v Speaker 2>There's only one reason that you don't use your California

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<v Speaker 2>specialist for a California debate. Because you know going into it,

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be all about Donald Trump. So there's

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<v Speaker 2>no need for him.

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<v Speaker 4>Look, I mean, there is a legitimate dispute about what

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<v Speaker 4>is the role of the governor vis-a-vis the federal government, right?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, that is a legitimate difference between the two

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<v Speaker 4>of them. It's not just that Becerra wants to talk

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<v Speaker 4>about Trump because Trump is unpopular. Trump has done a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of things that— I.

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<v Speaker 3>Think we know where the rest of this interview is going.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. What they're doing is they're already setting the table

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<v Speaker 2>to defend themselves against the criticism that the debate is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be all about Donald Trump. Because that's what

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll have some highlights maybe tomorrow. We'll see. And will

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<v Speaker 3>Javier Becerra actually show up? That's the million dollar question.

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<v Speaker 2>If you'd like to email the show, you can do

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<v Speaker 2>so at johnnydontlikeshow at gmail.com. That's johnnydontlikeshow at gmail.com. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to watch us perform the show live,

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<v Speaker 2>go to johnnydontlike.com, participate in the chat, and click that

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<v Speaker 2>like button because, Randy, that helps us out a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>When you hit the like button, when you subscribe, when

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<v Speaker 3>you participate in the chat, it all signals YouTube that

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<v Speaker 3>they should start recommending us to new people. It's happening

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<v Speaker 3>every single day. We've grown. 6,000 new subscribers in just

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<v Speaker 3>the last, what, three months? We're at the 90-day mark

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<v Speaker 3>that we've been doing this live show on YouTube. Very exciting.

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<v Speaker 3>We are currently at, on today's show, and we just started,

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<v Speaker 3>147 likes. So how exciting is that?

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<v Speaker 2>And.

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<v Speaker 3>We are here every single day. Play around in the

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<v Speaker 3>chat room. Make sure to participate in our poll that

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<v Speaker 3>I have going up this hour. 99% of respondents, no,

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<v Speaker 3>excuse me, 95% of respondents say that Javier Becerra absolutely,

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely would be a worse governor than Gavin Newsom.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, absolutely. And coming up later today, the newest edition

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<v Speaker 2>of the Accountability Podcast drops.

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<v Speaker 3>I know there's a lot of people out there that

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<v Speaker 3>don't like the fact that your choice for LA mayor

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<v Speaker 3>is Nithya or this lady. If you're feeling down, if

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<v Speaker 3>you're feeling blue, let's get help for you.

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<v Speaker 2>So Daniel Gus has a solution.

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<v Speaker 3>He is our special guest on the accountability podcast that

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<v Speaker 3>airs at two 59 this afternoon. In fact, if you're

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<v Speaker 3>watching the live stream, as soon as it ends, it

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<v Speaker 3>goes right into it. Vote for both of them and

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<v Speaker 3>cancel out your vote in protest. You cannot write in

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<v Speaker 3>Spencer Pratt if you leave it blank somebody could fill

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<v Speaker 3>it in down the line but if you fill in

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<v Speaker 3>both of them it cancels out your vote for mayor

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<v Speaker 3>because neither of these candidates truly deserve your vote maybe

0:20:04.850 --> 0:20:07.910
<v Speaker 3>you think one is worse than the other Daniel Gus

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<v Speaker 3>does not And Randy, we're going to Long Beach soon.

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<v Speaker 3>How exciting is this? We are going a week from

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<v Speaker 3>Friday to one of our favorite places in Southern California,

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<v Speaker 3>Gladstones in Long Beach. That is where we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>be with our friends from the Howard Jarvis Taxpayer Association

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<v Speaker 3>and Susan Shelley talking about Prop 43, the Local Taxpayer

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<v Speaker 3>Protection Act. Local municipalities have made it very difficult for

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<v Speaker 3>you to deal with the fact that they can raise

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<v Speaker 3>your taxes very easily. Prop 43 would eliminate a loophole

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<v Speaker 3>strengthening Prop 13. And that is why we're trying to

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<v Speaker 3>get the word out about Proposition 43. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of things on the ballot. A lot of them would

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<v Speaker 3>raise your taxes. Prop 43 makes it harder to raise

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<v Speaker 3>your taxes. So we're going to be at Gladstones in

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<v Speaker 3>Long Beach a week from Friday, putting that message out

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<v Speaker 3>there and, of course, enjoying the great food and the

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<v Speaker 3>great drinks on the Long Beach Harbor. Make sure you

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<v Speaker 3>come down and see us next Friday from noon to

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<v Speaker 3>three at Gladstones in Long Beach.

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<v Speaker 2>So earlier today, my phone started blowing up because of

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<v Speaker 2>the incident that took place on the airplane. If you're

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<v Speaker 2>not familiar with it, this is what happened. A fly-Dubai

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<v Speaker 2>plane left Dubai for Tel Aviv. There were more than

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<v Speaker 2>170 people on board. Many of them were Israelis. About

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<v Speaker 2>two hours into the flight, something very wrong went on

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<v Speaker 2>in the cockpit. Israel's prime minister said the co-pilot stabbed

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<v Speaker 2>the captain and tried to crash the plane. The jet, mid-flight,

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<v Speaker 2>dropped thousands of feet in seconds. It sent out emergency codes,

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<v Speaker 2>including one that means possible hijack. Israel even sent fighter

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<v Speaker 2>jets up, worried the plane might be under attack. Brave

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<v Speaker 2>passengers and extra crew on the flight forced their way

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<v Speaker 2>into the cockpit and stopped the attacker and helped get

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<v Speaker 2>the plane under control. Other pilots then landed it safely

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<v Speaker 2>in Saudi Arabia. Crew members were injured and taken to

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<v Speaker 2>the hospital. Passengers were not seriously injured. Later, they flew

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<v Speaker 2>on another plane to Israel. Saudi officials are the ones

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<v Speaker 2>who are now questioning the co-pilot. The UAE is investigating

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<v Speaker 2>the incident. Some early reports only called it a fight

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<v Speaker 2>between pilots, but Israel is treating it as a serious

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<v Speaker 2>attempt to bring a plane down. The full story is

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<v Speaker 2>still being checked as... It's a developing story. Do we

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<v Speaker 2>have our guest ready to go?

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to try him on video, and if that

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't work, we're going to try him on the phone.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. Joining us now to talk about this is

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<v Speaker 2>a 30-year career U.S. Air Force pilot and Master Army Aviator,

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<v Speaker 2>including Gulf War. John Vassar, welcome. And I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>we have him. Can you hear me now?

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<v Speaker 7>Can you hear me now?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, we got you now. Yes, sir. Perfect. All right.

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<v Speaker 7>Here we go.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 7>Here we go. Let's see what we can do here.

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<v Speaker 7>And you've basically given us the one moment, please. Now,

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<v Speaker 7>what we have is the briefing of the story. You've

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<v Speaker 7>just given a brief of the story, a brief intro

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<v Speaker 7>of the story. Now, it was flight which seems to

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<v Speaker 7>be a, Dubai Airlines seemed to have a history of

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<v Speaker 7>these hijacking attempts. And apparently what happened was the passengers

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<v Speaker 7>stormed the cockpit when the co-pilot, who is allegedly a Muslim,

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<v Speaker 7>stood up and said Allah Akbar and began stabbing the pilot.

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<v Speaker 7>The captain and the passengers apparently subdued the attacker. By

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<v Speaker 7>the way, everything I'm giving you is preliminary information, not

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<v Speaker 7>officially confirmed yet. It's flight FZ1073, which has had two

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<v Speaker 7>previous hijacking incidents. The captain is Smik Makbar. It's a

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<v Speaker 7>Boeing 737 MAX 8 aircraft. The flight tracking data shows

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<v Speaker 7>that it lost 14,000 feet In about 30 seconds, the

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<v Speaker 7>hijacking was thwarted by the captain and the passengers. Apparently,

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<v Speaker 7>a passenger who had medical training was able to take

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<v Speaker 7>care of the captain and treat his injuries. They did

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<v Speaker 7>an emergency landing with a backup team of pilots.

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<v Speaker 1>That were on board.

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<v Speaker 7>Initial reports say these were Russian commercial pilots who just

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<v Speaker 7>happened to be traveling as passengers. The injured captain has

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<v Speaker 7>been hospitalized, and the passengers have been flown to Ben

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<v Speaker 7>Gurion Airport in Tel Aviv. The Israeli prime minister met

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<v Speaker 7>them there. The Mossad, the Israeli intelligence service, is launching

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<v Speaker 7>an active investigation, and how this Omani co-pilot cleared security,

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<v Speaker 7>given that Israel and Oman do not have formal diplomatic ties.

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<v Speaker 7>So this is basically the situation that we have. We

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<v Speaker 7>have heroic behavior by passengers, reports coming out of how

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<v Speaker 7>the passengers were able to subdue this hijacker who allegedly

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<v Speaker 7>was attempting to create another 9-11 type situation that we had.

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<v Speaker 7>We'll see if I can find any more additional information.

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<v Speaker 7>The information is flowing in literally as I'm talking to

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<v Speaker 7>you right now. And the passengers are safe and sound.

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<v Speaker 7>The captain is being treated. In Saudi Arabia and Dubai Airlines,

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<v Speaker 7>Dubai aircraft are apparently not being allowed to fly into

0:26:39.060 --> 0:26:42.040
<v Speaker 7>Israeli airspace until this investigation is completed.

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<v Speaker 2>Initially, it was reported that we didn't know if it

0:26:46.520 --> 0:26:48.920
<v Speaker 2>was just a fight that took place in the cockpit

0:26:48.960 --> 0:26:53.520
<v Speaker 2>between two pilots. I don't know, personality conflict, whatever. But

0:26:53.720 --> 0:26:56.640
<v Speaker 2>if he was screaming, Allahu Akbar, as he was stabbing

0:26:56.700 --> 0:27:00.160
<v Speaker 2>his captain... It sounds like he was looking for nonstop

0:27:00.200 --> 0:27:01.920
<v Speaker 2>service to the 72 virgins.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I agree.

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<v Speaker 7>I'd like to bring up a pattern here. If you'll notice,

0:27:08.600 --> 0:27:11.639
<v Speaker 7>a Royal Air Force in Great Britain, Royal Air Force,

0:27:12.900 --> 0:27:16.720
<v Speaker 7>heavy and medium bomber base, was recently subjected to an

0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:23.679
<v Speaker 7>apparent terrorist attack. Some local neighbors thwarted it by calling

0:27:23.720 --> 0:27:29.990
<v Speaker 7>the police. The five... alleged terrorists have been freed on bond.

0:27:30.510 --> 0:27:33.750
<v Speaker 7>But we're seeing this pattern in Europe, of course, the

0:27:34.170 --> 0:27:37.540
<v Speaker 7>stabbings in Great Britain and the rape gangs that are

0:27:37.580 --> 0:27:41.480
<v Speaker 7>appearing in Europe. We're beginning to see this pattern developing.

0:27:42.520 --> 0:27:45.760
<v Speaker 7>And at this point, it just seems to be growing

0:27:45.820 --> 0:27:46.840
<v Speaker 7>and growing and growing.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you speak to the hiring practices of the commercial

0:27:52.430 --> 0:27:55.290
<v Speaker 2>airlines in the Middle East? And I ask that question

0:27:55.330 --> 0:27:58.070
<v Speaker 2>because You know, a lot of the pilots here in

0:27:58.090 --> 0:28:00.810
<v Speaker 2>the United States are people who come from one of

0:28:00.869 --> 0:28:03.909
<v Speaker 2>two backgrounds. They either came from the military, where they

0:28:03.930 --> 0:28:07.490
<v Speaker 2>learn how to fly there, or they're aviation geeks, and

0:28:07.530 --> 0:28:11.770
<v Speaker 2>they have the Cessnas, and they fly on the Saturdays

0:28:11.850 --> 0:28:15.010
<v Speaker 2>and Sundays, and many of them come from that world.

0:28:15.070 --> 0:28:19.609
<v Speaker 2>They love aviation, and they got their hours on the

0:28:19.670 --> 0:28:23.090
<v Speaker 2>Cessnas and those sorts of things. A lot of other

0:28:23.130 --> 0:28:26.640
<v Speaker 2>countries out there, they don't have that element. I know

0:28:26.660 --> 0:28:29.540
<v Speaker 2>a lot of the Asian airlines, they train their pilots

0:28:30.500 --> 0:28:33.840
<v Speaker 2>as systems operators almost, where they go in the simulator

0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:37.080
<v Speaker 2>and they really learn the craft in the simulator and

0:28:37.140 --> 0:28:39.680
<v Speaker 2>not in the Cessna or not in the military planes.

0:28:40.220 --> 0:28:43.840
<v Speaker 2>And because of that, a lot of these international carriers

0:28:44.200 --> 0:28:48.380
<v Speaker 2>have a hard time staffing their airline, so they hire international.

0:28:48.900 --> 0:28:52.340
<v Speaker 2>Is it common for airlines in the Middle East to

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<v Speaker 2>just hire from all over the globe in the cockpits?

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, that is one of the issues that we're dealing with.

0:29:02.100 --> 0:29:04.120
<v Speaker 7>Let me give you an example. I'm glad you mentioned

0:29:04.140 --> 0:29:07.400
<v Speaker 7>the term systems operator. I'm glad you mentioned that because

0:29:07.920 --> 0:29:13.050
<v Speaker 7>in the military, which I flew for almost 40 years

0:29:13.150 --> 0:29:17.170
<v Speaker 7>as an Air Force pilot and an Army Master Aviator,

0:29:18.030 --> 0:29:20.250
<v Speaker 7>they teach you to fly the aircraft. You actually have

0:29:20.270 --> 0:29:23.410
<v Speaker 7>to fly it. You have to know all the systems.

0:29:23.450 --> 0:29:25.370
<v Speaker 7>You have to be able to fly the aircraft under

0:29:25.860 --> 0:29:30.140
<v Speaker 7>all kinds of different conditions. And these pilots that we're

0:29:30.200 --> 0:29:32.850
<v Speaker 7>seeing now, and I'm not in any way, shape, or

0:29:32.880 --> 0:29:36.130
<v Speaker 7>form disrespecting any of my comrades in the aviation field,

0:29:36.150 --> 0:29:40.840
<v Speaker 7>because all pilots are brothers and sisters. The way they

0:29:40.880 --> 0:29:43.760
<v Speaker 7>train them now is they are like systems operators, and

0:29:43.880 --> 0:29:47.780
<v Speaker 7>because in the Middle East they don't have the technological

0:29:47.850 --> 0:29:50.830
<v Speaker 7>background that we had, they never went through the Industrial Revolution,

0:29:51.210 --> 0:29:53.310
<v Speaker 7>the things that we did in the West to grow

0:29:53.370 --> 0:29:56.750
<v Speaker 7>and learn, they do have to hire internationally. So it's

0:29:56.810 --> 0:29:59.460
<v Speaker 7>not unusual for if you're on a Middle Eastern airline,

0:29:59.500 --> 0:30:02.900
<v Speaker 7>to see a pilot from Europe or from Asia flying

0:30:02.940 --> 0:30:05.860
<v Speaker 7>the aircraft. In this case, it was an Omani, which

0:30:05.900 --> 0:30:07.760
<v Speaker 7>I thought was kind of interesting since the flight was

0:30:07.800 --> 0:30:12.920
<v Speaker 7>going to Israel and Oman has no diplomatic relations with Israel.

0:30:14.760 --> 0:30:19.120
<v Speaker 2>In the United States, the aviation, the commercial aviation world

0:30:19.180 --> 0:30:24.229
<v Speaker 2>is a heavily unionized, heavily regulated industry where there is

0:30:24.390 --> 0:30:27.270
<v Speaker 2>a concept of or there is, I guess, a feeling,

0:30:27.430 --> 0:30:31.350
<v Speaker 2>especially among pilots and flight attendants in particular, where if

0:30:31.410 --> 0:30:34.350
<v Speaker 2>you have a problem with a co-worker, you don't go

0:30:34.410 --> 0:30:36.970
<v Speaker 2>to the company and complain about them to the company.

0:30:37.010 --> 0:30:38.870
<v Speaker 2>You go to the union and you go to pro

0:30:38.910 --> 0:30:42.520
<v Speaker 2>standards and you talk to people within your union, whether

0:30:42.580 --> 0:30:46.600
<v Speaker 2>it's ALPA or whatever, and you say, okay, this pilot

0:30:46.620 --> 0:30:49.280
<v Speaker 2>has a problem. They have a problem. They're saying radical

0:30:49.340 --> 0:30:52.420
<v Speaker 2>things in the cockpit or they're unqualified or whatever your

0:30:52.460 --> 0:30:55.990
<v Speaker 2>criticism is. you go to the union and not the company.

0:30:56.710 --> 0:30:59.140
<v Speaker 2>We are obviously more unionized here than they are in

0:30:59.180 --> 0:31:03.479
<v Speaker 2>the Middle East. If this pilot who decided to stab

0:31:03.540 --> 0:31:06.380
<v Speaker 2>his coworker in the middle of the flight and potentially

0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:10.140
<v Speaker 2>take the plane down as a bomb or whatever he

0:31:10.180 --> 0:31:13.650
<v Speaker 2>was planning on doing with it, who would be the

0:31:13.910 --> 0:31:16.790
<v Speaker 2>entity that would have the information if other people have

0:31:16.850 --> 0:31:21.050
<v Speaker 2>complained about this guy's behavior, about his demeanor, about radical

0:31:21.090 --> 0:31:23.710
<v Speaker 2>things that he said? Would it be the company? Would

0:31:23.730 --> 0:31:26.060
<v Speaker 2>it be the union? Or is that just something that

0:31:26.100 --> 0:31:30.520
<v Speaker 2>doesn't exist over there where they just aren't supposed to

0:31:30.560 --> 0:31:31.400
<v Speaker 2>report those things?

0:31:32.800 --> 0:31:38.140
<v Speaker 7>Well, I think, as I said before, I think what

0:31:38.180 --> 0:31:40.810
<v Speaker 7>we're dealing with is a pattern here of behavior. I

0:31:40.850 --> 0:31:46.470
<v Speaker 7>don't think we may... This pilot that the co-pilot stood

0:31:46.570 --> 0:31:50.810
<v Speaker 7>up and stabbed the captain, we don't have any records.

0:31:51.260 --> 0:31:54.550
<v Speaker 7>of misbehavior. What we're looking at here is what I

0:31:54.590 --> 0:31:59.810
<v Speaker 7>would call a terrorist incident. Someone who sees himself as

0:31:59.870 --> 0:32:03.870
<v Speaker 7>a terrorist who is carrying out a la Akbar, basically

0:32:03.950 --> 0:32:08.250
<v Speaker 7>taking out the West to attack the West. As far

0:32:08.310 --> 0:32:11.790
<v Speaker 7>as we know, he may have behaved perfectly normally until

0:32:11.870 --> 0:32:15.930
<v Speaker 7>he decided to do this attack. Now think about the

0:32:15.970 --> 0:32:20.180
<v Speaker 7>Malaysian airline issue that happened a few years ago. No

0:32:20.260 --> 0:32:23.740
<v Speaker 7>signs that anything was wrong. And then this airliner just

0:32:23.820 --> 0:32:28.700
<v Speaker 7>disappears over the Indian Ocean. We don't know what, to

0:32:28.740 --> 0:32:31.140
<v Speaker 7>this day, we don't really know what happened. And now

0:32:31.180 --> 0:32:33.380
<v Speaker 7>we're dealing with this. There was also an Air France

0:32:33.440 --> 0:32:37.240
<v Speaker 7>incident a few years ago where the co-pilot or one

0:32:37.260 --> 0:32:40.800
<v Speaker 7>of the pilots on board yelled Allah Akbar and crashed

0:32:40.840 --> 0:32:45.020
<v Speaker 7>the airplane. We're dealing, we're seeing a pattern here of

0:32:45.100 --> 0:32:50.690
<v Speaker 7>behavior where I would not be surprised if everybody that

0:32:50.750 --> 0:32:53.670
<v Speaker 7>knew this fellow said, oh, he was quiet, didn't say anything.

0:32:53.730 --> 0:32:56.830
<v Speaker 7>He was a good pilot, did his job, that type

0:32:56.930 --> 0:33:00.350
<v Speaker 7>of thing. And then he saw himself on a mission

0:33:00.830 --> 0:33:05.390
<v Speaker 7>to take revenge against the West for whatever things they

0:33:05.410 --> 0:33:08.970
<v Speaker 7>have forescored. Maybe doing his duty as an Islamic radical.

0:33:09.760 --> 0:33:11.960
<v Speaker 7>I don't know. We'll have to look into it. We'll

0:33:12.000 --> 0:33:14.630
<v Speaker 7>have to have more There'll have to be an investigation,

0:33:14.650 --> 0:33:16.729
<v Speaker 7>and I'm sure this will come up. And I think

0:33:16.770 --> 0:33:18.190
<v Speaker 7>we're going to wind up just like we did with

0:33:18.210 --> 0:33:22.130
<v Speaker 7>the Malaysian airline. It's just one big question mark. But

0:33:22.150 --> 0:33:24.310
<v Speaker 7>you see, I keep going back to this, you see

0:33:24.370 --> 0:33:26.310
<v Speaker 7>a pattern of behavior.

0:33:27.550 --> 0:33:30.100
<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about the back of the cabin here for

0:33:30.130 --> 0:33:34.920
<v Speaker 2>a second, because you talked about 9-11. And certainly when

0:33:34.960 --> 0:33:39.240
<v Speaker 2>those passengers, when those brave passengers on 9-11 realized what

0:33:39.260 --> 0:33:42.130
<v Speaker 2>was going to happen, They did storm the cockpit, and

0:33:42.150 --> 0:33:44.290
<v Speaker 2>that's one of the reasons why the plane that went

0:33:44.330 --> 0:33:48.250
<v Speaker 2>down in Shanksville, Pennsylvania, went down in Shanksville, Pennsylvania. They

0:33:48.310 --> 0:33:50.469
<v Speaker 2>knew that plane was going to be turned into a bomb.

0:33:51.350 --> 0:33:54.350
<v Speaker 2>Prior to 9-11, if I was on a plane as

0:33:54.390 --> 0:33:58.010
<v Speaker 2>a passenger and there were hijackers on board, I would

0:33:58.050 --> 0:34:00.850
<v Speaker 2>assume that we're going to Havana or something. I would

0:34:00.890 --> 0:34:02.690
<v Speaker 2>not assume that the plane was going to be turned

0:34:02.730 --> 0:34:08.649
<v Speaker 2>into a bomb. Did the... Did 9-11 change the point

0:34:08.690 --> 0:34:12.350
<v Speaker 2>of view of the passengers in terms of what is

0:34:12.489 --> 0:34:16.830
<v Speaker 2>possible if the plane is hijacked? Whereas maybe in the 70s,

0:34:16.890 --> 0:34:18.569
<v Speaker 2>maybe in the 80s, they would have thought they were

0:34:18.610 --> 0:34:21.910
<v Speaker 2>going to Moscow or Havana, and now they think, okay,

0:34:22.190 --> 0:34:24.430
<v Speaker 2>we better act and we better act faster. We're all

0:34:24.450 --> 0:34:24.970
<v Speaker 2>going to die.

0:34:27.310 --> 0:34:29.710
<v Speaker 7>It's interesting you brought that up because back in the

0:34:29.730 --> 0:34:33.900
<v Speaker 7>70s when I was an Air Force pilot, my commander

0:34:33.940 --> 0:34:36.609
<v Speaker 7>told me if we were being hijacked to simply ask

0:34:36.640 --> 0:34:38.839
<v Speaker 7>the hijacker what he wants, where does he want to go,

0:34:38.890 --> 0:34:41.690
<v Speaker 7>and what would he like to have for lunch? That

0:34:42.210 --> 0:34:45.910
<v Speaker 7>was the attitude that we had. I'm sorry to make

0:34:45.989 --> 0:34:49.330
<v Speaker 7>light of it, but I could not resist. Please forgive me.

0:34:49.590 --> 0:34:52.330
<v Speaker 8>Please forgive an old radio guy for wanting to put

0:34:52.410 --> 0:34:57.049
<v Speaker 8>me here. So let's get back to the point here.

0:34:57.650 --> 0:34:59.730
<v Speaker 8>After 9-11, I think the passengers.

0:35:00.810 --> 0:35:04.980
<v Speaker 7>have gotten this idea now that we're now dealing with

0:35:05.020 --> 0:35:08.040
<v Speaker 7>a different type of hijacker. These are members of what

0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:12.360
<v Speaker 7>I would call a suicidal cult. Basically what we're looking

0:35:12.440 --> 0:35:18.049
<v Speaker 7>at here. A cult based on suicide and trying to

0:35:18.090 --> 0:35:20.730
<v Speaker 7>take down the West as if we're some kind of

0:35:20.830 --> 0:35:25.610
<v Speaker 7>corrupt entity. You know, it's ironic that I look at

0:35:25.770 --> 0:35:29.850
<v Speaker 7>Oman and the co-pilot who tried to bring the airplane

0:35:29.870 --> 0:35:33.969
<v Speaker 7>down and It's sort of interesting that this culture could

0:35:34.030 --> 0:35:37.850
<v Speaker 7>not have produced an airline to take down. They had

0:35:37.870 --> 0:35:41.780
<v Speaker 7>to use one of our airplanes that we build to

0:35:41.880 --> 0:35:44.299
<v Speaker 7>commit their terrorists, to use our technology to commit our

0:35:44.600 --> 0:35:49.060
<v Speaker 7>terrorist acts, technology they themselves could never develop. I think

0:35:49.080 --> 0:35:51.040
<v Speaker 7>this is exactly what we're dealing with, and I must

0:35:51.100 --> 0:35:54.300
<v Speaker 7>commend the passengers for the way they did it. The

0:35:54.560 --> 0:35:57.919
<v Speaker 7>captain received medical care. There were medically trained people on board.

0:35:58.739 --> 0:36:02.520
<v Speaker 7>that took care of the captain. I've seen some copyrighted pictures,

0:36:03.020 --> 0:36:07.000
<v Speaker 7>photographs that were taken of what was going on inside

0:36:07.040 --> 0:36:12.890
<v Speaker 7>the cockpit. The hijacker was restrained and not killed by

0:36:12.910 --> 0:36:15.950
<v Speaker 7>the passengers. Given the fact that the aircraft, I think

0:36:16.030 --> 0:36:19.070
<v Speaker 7>one of the clues that the passengers had that something

0:36:19.110 --> 0:36:21.690
<v Speaker 7>was really wrong was when the aircraft descended 14,000 feet

0:36:21.750 --> 0:36:25.580
<v Speaker 7>in 30 seconds. That's kind of a clue when you're

0:36:25.600 --> 0:36:28.640
<v Speaker 7>in a giant airliner going down that fast that there

0:36:28.660 --> 0:36:30.400
<v Speaker 7>may be something wrong. And that was sort of the

0:36:30.460 --> 0:36:32.110
<v Speaker 7>clue that woke them up and told them to go

0:36:32.150 --> 0:36:34.210
<v Speaker 7>in the cockpit and take control.

0:36:34.230 --> 0:36:37.370
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that would certainly get my attention. That's for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>John Vassar, 30-year career pilot for the United States Air Force.

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