1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: This is Bob Tannam in the Garden. 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 2: I hope you're listening every week to see what's new 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 2: and whatever is going on. Anyway. So we talk about 4 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 2: gardening every Sunday morning from nine to ten am, and 5 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 2: I hope you join me by calling in and asking questions. 6 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 2: I do have a guest for Easter Sunday that I'm 7 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 2: very excited about. So that's going to be Lisa Steele. 8 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 2: She's been on with my dad before, so she reached 9 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 2: out when she had a new anniversary edition of her 10 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 2: Gardening with Chickens. So that's going to be next week. 11 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 2: I hope you are listening while you get the house 12 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: ready for guests, or while you get your Sunday best 13 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: on and Easter Sunday outfits on, so that whatever you're doing, 14 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 2: you get ready and listen to me at the same time. 15 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 2: Just advice, no big deal anyway. So the call in 16 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: numbers to join me live this morning are four one 17 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 2: five eight eight five six zero zero, so pretty easy 18 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 2: since we're on KSFO, you know, so that's eight eight 19 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 2: five six zero zero four one five area code because 20 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 2: we're in the San Francisco Bay area, so you can 21 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 2: call about that. Let me think here, let's see, I 22 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 2: did go to a Bonzai lecture the other week with Addison. 23 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: He was on the show talking about the auction that 24 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 2: they had at the I haven't figured out if they're 25 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 2: having a their auction anyway at the Mammoth Bonzai Show, 26 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 2: which is a once a year event that has come 27 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:45,639 Speaker 2: and gone this year and where they auction off these 28 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 2: incredibly old, beautiful, gorgeous and other and other Bonzi material 29 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: and so that was really fun to go too and 30 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 2: listen to Addison. So this week he did a little 31 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 2: workshop or actually just a lecture on how to style 32 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 2: a universe. So that's what the Bonzi clubs are all about, 33 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 2: is they get special lectures in usually once a month 34 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 2: they do lectures. The other meeting they do during the 35 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 2: month is all about, you know, bringing your own trees 36 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 2: in and styling them. So that's just the Bonzai Obviously, 37 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 2: not everybody that listens to me is into Bonzi. I 38 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 2: just happened to, you know, started that couple of years 39 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 2: ago myself. But you know, every time you think of 40 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 2: a plant that you really really really like, even if 41 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 2: it's a drought resistant landscape, there's a club for that. Basically, 42 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 2: there's a club for that. Or back to back to 43 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 2: you know, natural gardens, there's a club for that as well. 44 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 2: So that's all stuff to keep in mind. Or just 45 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: go to the nurseries on a regular basis and they'll 46 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 2: also show you different things that are you know, that 47 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 2: will interest you. Keep your interest going and find a 48 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 2: club for you. I like clubs because they're you know, 49 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 2: they're very good with community outreach, and especially if after 50 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 2: so many years you've just kind of maybe picked and 51 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 2: choosen your chosen your friends and they've just gotten less 52 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: and less of a circles. But it's kind of cool 53 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 2: because if you do join a club, at least you 54 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 2: know that that one direction that you are interested in 55 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 2: for plant World is also an interesting group that you 56 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 2: can hang out with which you know, you always have 57 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 2: something in common with people in the club. That's kind 58 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: of cool. That's why I go. 59 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 3: No. 60 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 2: Plus, I learned a lot about how to make tiny trees. Yeah, 61 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 2: it's really fun. So we're our club is getting ready 62 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: for the County Fair, So that'll be coming up July 63 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 2: fourth weekend in Marin County. That's what our big show is. 64 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 2: You know, we literally are in the fair and we 65 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 2: go inside that. There's a building in the Expo Center 66 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 2: they call it, and we have a display of all 67 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 2: of our club's best pieces to show people what is 68 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,119 Speaker 2: kind of cool and grown locally and it's great, it's 69 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 2: really fun. And every club, of course has their different 70 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: things going on. In fact, let's see here yesterday, I 71 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 2: guess was the one in San Jose and I talked 72 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 2: about that last week they had an exhibit. And then 73 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 2: let me think here on April eighteenth will be the 74 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 2: Modesto Bonzai Club. They'll have their spring show and it'll 75 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 2: be I'll talk about where that is. I didn't we 76 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 2: should have written that down anyway. And then April eleventh, 77 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 2: that's coming up really fast. That's going to be the 78 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 2: Sacramento Bonzi Group and they're going to be at the 79 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 2: Sacramento Garden and Arts Center and they're going to have 80 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 2: all sorts of fun stuff. Oh hey, we have Mike. 81 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I did that announcement last week. Hi Mike, 82 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 2: Welcome to Sunday Morning. How are you. 83 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 4: Two? 84 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 5: In France? Thunder every guy has quite a number of 85 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 5: ROADI dendrons like mean Moore, my lady, my guy and others. 86 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 5: He lived in Terrancisco, but in order to test the 87 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 5: Rudy Dendrians, he purchased three acres in the Aptos, which 88 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 5: is now part of the Bite toy On Camp and 89 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 5: Conference Center. Through twenty Cooister Lane and Appalls. A week 90 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 5: from today for the anti chapter I've Murdered Rudy Heering 91 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 5: Society will have a tour of the garden created by 92 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 5: Monium France Sumner at Bye toy On Cavin Conference Center 93 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 5: to Toty Poister Lane and Apdos. For further information, please 94 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 5: those of web page of the DNNG chapter NERD You're 95 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 5: in society, which is a w w w d e 96 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 5: a n g ah a r S dot com. W 97 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 5: w w god e e a n g ah a 98 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 5: r S dot com. I hope you see you Prielora's 99 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 5: number of Staniel wooded Ingres. 100 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 2: Thanks all right, wonderful, Thank you, Mike, thanks for calling 101 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 2: in so we can definitely go to that website and 102 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 2: find out all the information about the uh special tour 103 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 2: that they're having. And that was www dot deyon'sa dash 104 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 2: a r S for American Rhododendron Society. That's what a 105 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 2: r S. See what I was saying about society dot com. 106 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 2: So if you're into rhododendrons, this would be a great 107 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 2: event to go to in Aptos. So that was case 108 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 2: in point. I guess that's what I wanted to like 109 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 2: to call that. So I hope you all have a 110 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 2: special that you'd like to do. And the other thing too, 111 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: I mean, don't forget there are botanical gardens all over 112 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 2: the Bay Area as well, so that can be very 113 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 2: fun to go to as well. Let's go to Bob 114 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 2: in Sebastable for a pertinent vegetable gardening question. 115 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 6: Hi Bob, Hi, I have to turn off my radio 116 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 6: or am I? Okay? 117 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 2: So far, so good. I don't know if we if 118 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 2: we hear that little delay, it might be weird. 119 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 6: Good Okay, Well, I'm a little delayed in my brain too. 120 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 6: I started a bunch of zucchini starts, you know, and 121 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 6: I've been look like they're ready to go on the ground. 122 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 3: Now. 123 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 6: All my transplants are taking very well. I'm doing pretty good. 124 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 6: I guess we're past the frost. I could put him 125 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 6: in the ground, you know, what do you think? 126 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 2: Well, you know they say that it can go through April, 127 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 2: you know, and we never know because we're gonna suddenly 128 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 2: have a little bit of rain this week, which it 129 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 2: doesn't look like they're possibly anymore in the world, you know, 130 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 2: so it is kind of interesting. It depends on how 131 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 2: cold they're expecting it to get. If they're talking about 132 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 2: waking up in the morning and it's in the forties, 133 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 2: it's not really warm enough unless you're going to put 134 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 2: some sort of a heat blanket or a heat source 135 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 2: for them that might help. I don't know what you 136 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 2: can put out there in the garden, that's the problem. 137 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 6: That's the I can lie down next to the mother 138 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 6: of my little babies. I've nourished them for weeks. 139 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 2: Are you saying you have a hot body, Bob? Yeah, 140 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 2: you know. 141 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 6: It's it's fun to it's fun to start to make 142 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 6: us from seeds, But oh my god, it's a lot 143 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 6: of work and worry. 144 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 2: It really is. Yeah. Yeah, And then when do you 145 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 2: put them in the ground. It's like, well, let me 146 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 2: think about it. I mean, yeah, I mean you can't 147 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 2: put them April fifteenth would probably be fairly safe. Yeah, 148 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 2: that's usually target. 149 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 6: That'd be fine. I can hold. But you know, I 150 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 6: tell you a story about the one I had last 151 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 6: year that grew up as a volunteer, a volunteer from 152 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 6: last of the whole winter. The seed went through the 153 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 6: and and sprouted in January, and it was a cherry tomato. 154 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 6: I made it all through the winter and it became 155 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 6: a beautiful plant. 156 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 2: There you go, exactly, And then we got we. 157 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 6: Have to put our zucchinis. We have to put our 158 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 6: zucchinis in the ground much later because. 159 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 2: They grow so fast, they do, they do. 160 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 6: Those can even be started well into may you know, 161 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 6: because they grow so fast they outraise everything. 162 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, that's very very true. Absolutely, it sounds like 163 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 2: the continuous vegetable garden when you're talking about your tomato 164 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 2: that that book is all about saving seeds and also 165 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 2: all the things that will overwinter. Yeah, very cool. 166 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 6: Well, well I have you Let me ask you one 167 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 6: more quick question. I have a little a little planter 168 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 6: about three inch a three feet across diameter. It's out 169 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 6: on my golf practice net on my wheen I hit 170 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 6: golf balls from and I always put flowers in every spring. 171 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 6: Could I sprinkle of wildflower seeds? 172 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 2: You can, but you're going to have to be responsible 173 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 2: for making them as moist as possible. But yes, you can. 174 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 2: Definitely put seeds in now. Yeah, like poppies and all 175 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 2: that type of thing will probably have chance to come up. 176 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 2: The rest of them might summer over and come back 177 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 2: next year too, So there's a process. 178 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 6: My other question, Yeah, well I usually get a bunch 179 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 6: of little merrygold starts and talk about twenty four of 180 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 6: them in there, and it really makes a nice show. 181 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really fun to do, having fun. 182 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 6: In the garden. Now the weather's good and we're getting 183 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 6: out there doing stuff. 184 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, a little push and the weather does you a 185 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 2: great deal of fun. 186 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 3: All right, cool, thank you. 187 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 6: I'll keep you informed of on my tomato progress this year. 188 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 2: Exactly. Everything does change. So cool. 189 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 5: I thank you on YouTube, all right, thanks. 190 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go ahead and go to guy in Freemont. 191 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 2: He's got an announcement for us. 192 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: But Martin. 193 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 3: Morning, I'm yeah, I'm sitting here in Fremont. I'm at 194 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 3: my local community garden. It's almost coming up here on 195 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 3: seventy degrees and I'm listening to eighty tennem in the garden. 196 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 3: So it just doesn't get any better than. 197 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 5: That, you know, I love it. 198 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 2: Cool. 199 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I am with the master gardeners and we've worked 200 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 4: really hard this year to put together a few thousand 201 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 4: plants to sell. 202 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 3: And we are having a plant sale on two days. 203 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 3: That's Saturday, April eleventh, from nine to three and Sunday, 204 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 3: April twelfth, from nine to one. And this plant sell 205 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 3: will be located at the Pleasanton Senior Center in Pleasanton's 206 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 3: five three five three snoboard. Yeah. We have just everything 207 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 3: from A to C and even a couple few edible 208 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 3: flowers too, So we plans are looking really good. Everything 209 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 3: sounds schedule, so we hoped that so people can stop 210 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 3: by on April eleventh and twelfth and pick up their 211 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,239 Speaker 3: starts for the garden wonderful. 212 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 2: And that's at the five three five three Sinole Boulevard, 213 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 2: the Pleasanton Senior Center. 214 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, five three five three boulevard. 215 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, perfect, all right guy, that's great, we'll be there. 216 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:41,959 Speaker 2: It sounds like fun. 217 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 3: Thank you very much, and I really enjoy listening to 218 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 3: your show every Sunday. 219 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 2: Thank you for having it, all right, thank you for listening. 220 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 2: Absolutely all right, we are going to take our first 221 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 2: break of the morning, and thank you everyone for calling. 222 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 2: That's four one, five eight eight five six zero zero, 223 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 2: and we will be back after these messages. 224 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: You're listening to Bob Dannam in the Garden on talk 225 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: radio five sixty KSF. 226 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 2: Wind a plant in the garden, and yeah, it is 227 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 2: interesting because when you try to garden throughout the whole 228 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 2: year with edibles, you know, there's a time and timing 229 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 2: on everything. It's like a cover crop might be putting 230 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 2: out fruit right now and you don't want to rip 231 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 2: them out until they harvest the fruit. But there's other 232 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 2: things that you can use for cover crop that will 233 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 2: cause less angst. I think would like to say, you know, 234 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 2: you can always do the red clover instead of the 235 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 2: fava beans or whatever. Anyway, so there's a lot of 236 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 2: fun stuff going on. In fact, there was something I 237 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 2: was reading, of course I have Okay, so setting up 238 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 2: for next week's guest, who is Lisa Steel with Gardening 239 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 2: with Chickens her tenth edition, tenth anniversary Fresh Eggs Daily. Anyhow, 240 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 2: so she also writes articles, I think, well she has 241 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 2: so anyway, she sent me a copy of along with 242 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 2: the book Homestead Living, which is a magazine I think 243 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 2: that comes out every two weeks. So if you've got 244 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 2: some space, you know, of course that is really something 245 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 2: you have to do. Somewhere down the line, when you 246 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 2: have space to grow things like vegetables year round, it 247 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 2: would be kind of cool to have this book. I mean, 248 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 2: obviously it comes up with the recipe of the month 249 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 2: or whatever, and it also comes up with cover crops 250 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 2: and that type of thing, which is what I was 251 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 2: talking about. And she has this in this most recent 252 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 2: issue of Homestead Living. I don't know who wrote this 253 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 2: particular list, but it's other things I hadn't thought about 254 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 2: for cover crop. I mean, we had a limited when 255 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 2: I was growing up. We had lied a limited thing 256 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 2: of cover crop that was like three things that you 257 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 2: could buy seeds for in the that you could grow 258 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 2: and done. I mean, it was very, very limited. But 259 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 2: this cover crop list it also doubles as animal feed. 260 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 2: So for those things that are out in the past year. 261 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 2: We know about alfalfa, there's a lot of things that 262 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 2: alfalfa does. Barley, buckwheat. I'm not sure if you had 263 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 2: ever grown buckwheat as a cover crop before. You know, 264 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 2: I might be as naive as can be and you 265 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 2: already knew all this stuff, but you know that could 266 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 2: be typical. It's the clover, of course, the red, crimson 267 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 2: and white apparently field peas, harry vetch, gotta have some 268 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 2: hairy vetch around, which is nitrogen fixing. And mangle wurtzels. 269 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 2: Had you ever heard of mango wurtzels. I had not 270 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 2: until I just looked at that word a minute ago. 271 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 2: Cow's sheep, goats, pigs, and poultry are fed by it. 272 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 2: Primarily a fodder crop that can double as a cover crop. Yeah, 273 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 2: mangel wurtzels, okay. And the oats rye and sorghum. So 274 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 2: those are things that are kind of, you know, interesting, 275 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 2: reaching out to try something different for a cover crop 276 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 2: and rotate them, you know, from year to year. Yeah, 277 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 2: kind of fun. Anyway, this is a kind of a 278 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 2: cool magazine I just got with my book. Gardening with 279 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 2: Chickens is the author of the new book I'm going 280 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 2: to talk about next week on Easter Sunday. Don't you 281 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 2: think that's apropos? I think that's very cool. I'm very 282 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 2: we're looking forward to it. This is her tenth anniversary 283 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 2: edition and there's all sorts of fun stuff in there. 284 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 2: She said that she had been on the show with 285 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 2: my father years ago when she first came out with 286 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 2: the book. So that's why I got the email from 287 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 2: her reaching out to do that. So anyway, another thing 288 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 2: to think about this year was a guest that I 289 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 2: had on last fall who hails from southern California, Sandra Mao, 290 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 2: and she wrote the book Vibrant Harvest, so cultivating a 291 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 2: kaleidoscope of colors in your vegetable garden. The reason I 292 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 2: bring that up is because you don't always see these 293 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 2: colorful plants at the farmer's market, but there are seeds 294 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 2: out there that you can easily get, you know, from 295 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 2: Baker Seeds, et cetera, rare seed growers and that type 296 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 2: of thing, and of course some standard seed growers as 297 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 2: well that will have these other types of vegetables that 298 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 2: you may not have thought about that have these extra 299 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 2: nutritional values of them because of their color. So that's 300 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 2: kind of fun. I did talk anyway, deja vu. So anyway, 301 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 2: that's Vibrant Harvest. That's a good book to have to 302 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 2: by Sandra Mao. So I've left these over here by 303 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 2: my voice thing here because I really did. I really 304 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 2: was impressed with these books, which is kind of cool. 305 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 2: And then Continuous Vegetable Garden by Charlie NARDOZI that's what 306 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 2: I was referring to when Bob was talking about the 307 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 2: seeds that he had from his cherry tomatoes that had 308 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 2: overwintered and started popping up last year, and they're just 309 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 2: kind of perennializing themselves. And this is what's cool about 310 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 2: the continuous vegetable garden. It does talk about a lot 311 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 2: of perennial vegetables, including mushrooms, so it's really cool. All right, 312 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 2: I've done that. I'm also here to answer your questions 313 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 2: on gardening. So that's eight eight five six zero zero. 314 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 2: That is four one five area code eight eight five 315 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 2: six zero zero. So hopefully you guys are listening in 316 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 2: and thinking about stuff coming up, places you can go, 317 00:18:52,359 --> 00:19:00,120 Speaker 2: people you can see, and let's see what else was going. Oh, 318 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 2: I'm trying to make sense out of the notes I wrote. 319 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 2: Apparently not very good at note doing right now. I 320 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 2: don't know why. But April eighteenth, Modesto Bonzei Club spring show, 321 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 2: and I mentioned that and I didn't write down where 322 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 2: it was, but it's in Modesta and then the April 323 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 2: eleventh in the Sacramento and let's see what else for 324 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, swarm season. So if you are, if you 325 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 2: do if you're out there and you've discovered a colony 326 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 2: of bees that are kind of in the wrong place, 327 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 2: or you're a little bit concerned about them, you can 328 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 2: always try to contact sonomabees dot org or a local 329 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 2: society that is going to help you with the bees. 330 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 2: There are some that are associated with your local city governments. 331 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 2: But be very cautious and what you're talking trying to 332 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 2: do is just relocate them, not disturb them, and not 333 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 2: do anything damaging to them, because they're extremely essential. You 334 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 2: don't want to get rid of your bees. You want 335 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 2: to just move them along. Or if you've got some 336 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 2: bees that are stinging you in the garden, you might 337 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:21,199 Speaker 2: get somebody who's a bee keeper and they might be 338 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 2: able to hook you up with a queen bee and 339 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 2: that'll settle the group down. You can still have bees 340 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 2: in your garden, but you've got to be careful because 341 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 2: if you get them in the wrong area and disturb 342 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 2: them and then you're allergic to bees, you're in trouble. 343 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 2: That's all I can say. You're in trouble. All I 344 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 2: got here are the carbenter bees. They seem to they 345 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 2: seem to be they've always been every easter we always 346 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 2: discover these bees, or whenever I was coming to see 347 00:20:56,280 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 2: my dad, they would be very loud. That's their defense, 348 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 2: is their loud buzz, and they try to buzz you 349 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 2: out of the area. But generally speaking, they never attack. 350 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 2: And so every time I water outside that there's this 351 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 2: one table that they have always made a home in, 352 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 2: and every every year they do a new colony there 353 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 2: and they're I guess they're just chipping away at the 354 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 2: holes on the table at the bottom, but table's still 355 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 2: strong after all these years. I'm pretty surprised. But I 356 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 2: don't know if you're allergic to bees like I am. 357 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 2: The sound scared me at first, and it scared my nephew. 358 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 2: I think he's also allergic. But yeah, after a while, 359 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 2: you get used to it and you just kind of 360 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 2: live with it and understand which bees you have. That's 361 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 2: an important thing to do too, always very important. All right. Anyway, 362 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 2: We're gonna go ahead and take our second break in 363 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 2: the morning, but I am tasking you all with that 364 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 2: phone call that is four one five eight oh eight 365 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 2: five six zero zero. That's four one, five eight oh 366 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 2: eight five six zero zero. I want to hear what's 367 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 2: going on in your garden and we'll be back after 368 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 2: these messages. 369 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: You're listening to Bob Dannam in the. 370 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 2: Garden and I'm illo everybody, good morning, Sunday morning, Sunday morning, anyway, 371 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 2: all right, so uh yeah, so we are taking calls, 372 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 2: of course. That's four one five eight oh eight five 373 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 2: six zero zero. I am promoting. Next week I will 374 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 2: have on Lisa Steele with Gardening with Chickens, so we 375 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 2: can learn a little bit about gardening with chickens, et 376 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 2: cetera next week. So that should be fun. And I 377 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 2: was also talking about Homestead Living, which is a great 378 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 2: little magazine that of course has some recipes in it, 379 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 2: but also some basic ideas of things to do or 380 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 2: you know, kind of a well, yeah, we're can live 381 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 2: in a farm basically, you know, if you've got a 382 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 2: little bit of space, maybe you could incorporate some of 383 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 2: these you know, some of this stuff. Yeah, she'll be fun. 384 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 2: Oh and it also talks about raising sheep and making 385 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 2: your own wool, which is something else that caught my attention. 386 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 2: All right, So homestead Living, if you know, if you know, 387 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 2: you know, right, all right, So other than that, what's 388 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 2: going on in the world of everything over here. So, 389 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 2: you know, I've gotten to a point where I can't 390 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 2: really dig up roots to try to create a garden. 391 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 2: So I'm having a helper come out this coming week 392 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 2: and he's gonna help me get rid of the BlackBerry roots. 393 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 2: And then my husband's gonna work on that too, because 394 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 2: we've got Easter coming up next week and we're gonna 395 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 2: have some of my cousins come over. And what we 396 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 2: do is we go ahead and get some lottery tickets 397 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 2: and put them in the eggs, and then we put 398 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 2: them all the way around this mobile home where has 399 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 2: lots of hiding places. So that's going to be coming 400 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 2: up next Sunday. I'm really excited about that. And then 401 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 2: we you know, then they drink wine. I watch them 402 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 2: get drunk. I very much enjoy It's really fun. And 403 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 2: then we have shared food, so it's a pot luck. 404 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 2: Now I have to remind my son today. I don't 405 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 2: know if he's he doesn't usually listen, but I have 406 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 2: to remind him. He said he wanted to cook corn beef, 407 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 2: so we will see how that works. Being my Irish 408 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 2: cousins are coming, they'll be very critical of that corn beef. 409 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 2: So I think he's I'm sure he's up for the task. 410 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 2: There's something about my son and his expression in cooking 411 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 2: which is phenomenal. Yeah, he would have worked at a 412 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 2: restaurant if he thought it would fit. 413 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 4: You know. 414 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 2: What he needs to make is a you know, make 415 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 2: a living. He's a funny boy. I love him anyway. 416 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 2: He is twenty two, twenty two. I don't know it's 417 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. He was born twenty three and in 418 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 2: two thousand and three. Anyway, doing the math is always 419 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,239 Speaker 2: throws my brain off, unless I'm at work, and then 420 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 2: I have to slow down and think of all the 421 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 2: math I have to do to recommend amounts of dye 422 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 2: versus fabric for customers, which I do all day long. Anyway, 423 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 2: that's fun. Yeah, that's that's. Another thing coming up is 424 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 2: a brand new website and ordering system that is coming 425 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 2: to Dharma, So that is another thing that's on my mind. 426 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 2: I also did from my brother's recommendation, I found someone 427 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 2: who did a state planning, so I'm excited to figure 428 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 2: that out. And yeah, so I've just been like my 429 00:25:55,680 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 2: brain has been overwhelmed with forms and you know, really 430 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 2: rather be outside watering. I was talking. Oh yeah, that 431 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 2: was right. That was a question I had for Addison 432 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 2: while he was demonstrating the pruning of the juniper up 433 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 2: at the Redwood Empire Bonziz Society, and I had mentioned 434 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 2: something about, you know, he goes back and forth to 435 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 2: Japan all the time, so there's something else going on. 436 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 2: He's concentrating on something else when he goes, because when 437 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 2: I talked about, you know, meditation, he just kind of went. 438 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 2: You know, when he's styling a tree, he's worried. You know, 439 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 2: he's all up tight, and he's all anxious about how 440 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 2: it's going to turn out, and anxious to see how 441 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 2: the cuts that he makes now and how it's going 442 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 2: to grow next year, by next year, if that's going 443 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 2: to be successful. So it's just like this ultra stressful 444 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 2: trying to make it perfect, you know, like way too 445 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 2: much going on in his mind. And I thought, well, 446 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 2: that's interesting. But he goes, but I'm very meditative when 447 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 2: I water, and I'm like, ah, get it. And it's 448 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 2: true because you all you're doing is observing, you're stepping back. 449 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 2: You're not the manipulator at that point, you are the appreciator. 450 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 2: So it's kind of an interesting point where depending on 451 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 2: what you do for a garden, which I'm sure everybody's 452 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 2: listening to the show Gardens one way or another, whether 453 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 2: or not it's just watering, right, that's still gardening obviously, 454 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 2: So that's kind of fun to realize that there's going 455 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 2: to be a stress factor, but there's also going to 456 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:47,199 Speaker 2: be a meditative factor of gardening that will always be 457 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 2: flopping back and forth depending on what you actively do 458 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 2: in your garden, you know, like filling the raised planter 459 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 2: with the good soil and maybe adding good soil to 460 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 2: it every year, which I highly recommend chicken manure obviously, 461 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 2: and obviously I'm pointing to the book like you can 462 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 2: see me pointing to the book that I'm going to 463 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 2: be interviewing next week anyway, So it's kind of a 464 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 2: chicken manure in Alfalfa is what I usually recommend if 465 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 2: you are dressing up your soil, dressing up something and 466 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 2: then don't forget. You know, we're talking about in the 467 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 2: in the well, either in a raised planner, if it's 468 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 2: large enough, you can definitely take the cover crop that 469 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 2: you might have grown and start to pull that up 470 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 2: out of the garden and lay that on top of 471 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 2: the soil. To start the breakdown process. Once you get 472 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 2: that mostly broken down, it's time to plant your seedlings 473 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 2: that you've been growing. So those are all things to 474 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 2: keep in mind. And the no till can also be 475 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,959 Speaker 2: done in a large planner as well as the ground, 476 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 2: So I highly recommend those because there are so many 477 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 2: good yummies that will stay in the soil if you 478 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 2: don't disturb it, that will always feedback the plants that 479 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 2: you're actually going to be planting in there, even your tomatoes. Yes, yeah, 480 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 2: so that's kind of interesting stuff that you can take 481 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 2: a look at. I am anxious about the plant or 482 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 2: area that I have between me and the neighbor because 483 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 2: it's a good open piece of land that has just 484 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 2: been overgrown with weeds constantly. And I told the gardener, 485 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 2: I said, you know, when you pop that oak tree, 486 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 2: which there's a lot of shrub oaks in there too, 487 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 2: along with the blackberries and agapant no, yeah, agapanth which 488 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 2: there's just so many of them in there, and I 489 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 2: guess they do want that one agapantha next to the frame. 490 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 2: I'll take a look at that. But he's anyway, the 491 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 2: gardener is going to come in and he's going to 492 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 2: dig out the roots so that hopefully I can put 493 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 2: my tree fern and my Japanese mate there along with 494 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 2: a large flat redwood table where I can get my 495 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 2: bonzai out there to get more sun under the overhang 496 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 2: is congested and they don't get a lot of sun, 497 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 2: so my bonzie there don't do as well as I could, 498 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 2: especially my Japanese maple. So I'm looking forward to them 499 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 2: having more space and you know, showing the neighbors a 500 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 2: little bit more of my little artistries. So they're all 501 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 2: just growing on maples. None of them are or bonzi. 502 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 2: They're not really bonsai yet. They're growing to be bonzai 503 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 2: later in their life. So that's my take on everything. 504 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 2: Plus I'm also trying to do some cuttings and things 505 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 2: like that of other trees and shrubs that could be 506 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 2: made into bonzi later. So those are the things that 507 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 2: I don't I don't know enough about bonzai and it's 508 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 2: a long process to learn. Some people can see it 509 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 2: right away, some kids in the clubs that I go 510 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 2: to and they are like I had. I had a 511 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 2: couple of the boys on the radio with me after 512 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 2: the last year's last Summer's Santaella Bonzei group. And anyway, 513 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 2: they came on the radio with their dad and they 514 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 2: were a little shy. But one, don't be shy. It's 515 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 2: not a big deal. Just come and talk to me. 516 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 2: I'm a very personable person. Eight eight five six zero zero. 517 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 2: By the way, four one five eight eight five six 518 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 2: zero zero. Anyway, those guys, now, the guys up at 519 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 2: the Redwood Empire Club, they are starters like me. They 520 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 2: like to take seedlings. They like to take pine trees, 521 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 2: pine seeds and try to propagate them, uh and other 522 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,479 Speaker 2: plants like that as well. And then in my club 523 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 2: there's a young lady who also who really kind of 524 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 2: she knows what she wants, but she is learning how 525 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,719 Speaker 2: to get there. And that's where I'm at. With the 526 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 2: regular Bonzeye trees that I have. I see them, I 527 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 2: might have won one or two at a club meeting, 528 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 2: and I see how they've been already trimmed. But then 529 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 2: I keep them so long and they need more trimming, 530 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 2: and I don't know what to do, which is why 531 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 2: I bring them to club meetings. I gay, okay, now 532 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 2: what you know? And I have this juniper that I 533 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 2: started with, which was my very first bonzeie, And every 534 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 2: time I bring it to a meeting, everyone always says, oh, 535 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 2: it's so healthy, and I'm like, until the other day 536 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 2: and I brought it in and Diane goes, it has scale. 537 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 2: Can you see that? And of course the scale was 538 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 2: so tiny I really couldn't unless I had my reading 539 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 2: glasses on. And I'm like, oh, oh, I better better 540 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,719 Speaker 2: take care of that. So we get a little bit 541 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 2: of insecticidal soap and take care. Are those guys that 542 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 2: way all right? And it is that time, So we're 543 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 2: gonna go ahead and take another break, and I expect 544 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 2: you to call. That's four one five eight oh eight 545 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 2: five six zero zero. That's four one five eight oh 546 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 2: eight five six zero zero. Even if you just have 547 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 2: another club announcement, just let us know and we'll talk 548 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 2: to you in a minute. 549 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: This is Bob Tannam in the Garden on Talk Radio 550 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: five sixty on. 551 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 2: A bright and sunny Sunday morning with a forecast of 552 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 2: drizzle or rain or something coming up, which is great. 553 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 2: I mean, so the end of April, I mean the 554 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 2: end of March, the beginning of April, we didn't have 555 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 2: that much wind. We did have wind, but we didn't 556 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 2: have that much wind, So we'll have to wait and 557 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 2: see what happens in April. I've had I remember very 558 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 2: windy April. So whatever these patterns that people think are 559 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 2: gonna happen year to year never do not where we live, 560 00:33:56,120 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 2: all right, We're on the California coast out here, and yeah, 561 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 2: we have all sorts of different things that happen every year, 562 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 2: and nothing as ever the same basically as it was 563 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 2: last year. Basically basically it's the same. I guess I 564 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 2: don't know anyhow. So here we are with a call 565 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 2: in gardening radio show. So if you've got questions about 566 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 2: your garden and you'd like to share them, or if 567 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 2: you have an event coming up that is going to 568 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 2: be with your master Gardener's Association or your club, give 569 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 2: us a call at eight oh eight five six zero 570 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,839 Speaker 2: zero that's four one five eight oh eight five six 571 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 2: zero zero to get a hold of us here and 572 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,359 Speaker 2: you can talk about what's going on. We had Mike 573 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,439 Speaker 2: at the beginning of the hour talking about the tour 574 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 2: that's happening for the Rhododendron Society, so that's he always 575 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,919 Speaker 2: he's with the dayonza Rhododendron Society so you can find 576 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 2: out more information www dot Deonza dash Ars, which is 577 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 2: the American Rhododendron Society. So that is a website that 578 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 2: you can go to in order to find out more 579 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 2: information about the events and the tours and the exploration 580 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 2: that you get. Rhododendron season is upon us. I'm sure, 581 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, right, yeah, it's been like a flash in 582 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 2: the pan. Everything's like popped into bloom a very very 583 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:29,359 Speaker 2: quickly around the world around your daily walk and yeah, yeah, 584 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 2: it's pretty exciting stuff. Let's see. So do I have 585 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 2: anything else that came up? 586 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 4: Oh? 587 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, last week, Oh I didn't get her name called 588 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 2: in about the coddling moth and what she does for 589 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 2: coddling moth. And she heard about this hanging plastic bottles 590 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 2: with molasses and water, three quarters of a cup of 591 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 2: molasses and then a quarter cup of water. I think no, 592 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 2: it was the other way around. Now it was a 593 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 2: quarter cup of molasses and three quarters water. That was 594 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 2: it more viscous. But but you put that you She 595 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 2: hangs them in the tree, and she puts them in 596 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 2: jars or big plastic containers, and then she draws a 597 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 2: hole in it to hang in the tree and they 598 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 2: can be plastic. Of course, I think I got the 599 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 2: information there, and that was supposed to be bait for 600 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 2: coddling moth so that they'd get in there and they 601 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 2: can't fly out. I don't know if you tried it, 602 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 2: but hey, you know, you can describe it better than 603 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 2: I can. I. So eight to eight five six zero zero. 604 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 2: That's four one five area code eight to eight five 605 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 2: six zero zero. And so I did talk about the 606 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,919 Speaker 2: swarming season and that type of thing. And next week, 607 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 2: don't forget, I am going to be talking with Lisa 608 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,280 Speaker 2: Steel and we're going to be talking about gardening with chickens, 609 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 2: and we'll also talk about this magazine called homestead Living. 610 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 2: So I believe we'll be talking about both those for 611 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 2: the whole hour. So if you've got some plans easter Sunday, uh, 612 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 2: you know, just go ahead and keep in mind that 613 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 2: we're going to be talking about oh sorts of fun 614 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 2: stuff that's in her book on gardening with chickens. So 615 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 2: that'll be coming up. Lisa Steel, planning, planting and harvesting 616 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 2: with your flock. I love it, all right, So that 617 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,800 Speaker 2: is coming up next Sunday. I hope you look forward 618 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,839 Speaker 2: to that. That's gonna be a great interview. Anything else 619 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 2: that's on my brain, do do do do, do do? Oh. 620 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 2: I did want to mention that Sonoma Botanical Gardens is 621 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 2: coming up with another one of these beautiful displays around 622 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 2: their garden that's going to be mostly in the California 623 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 2: garden area. And also they were working with Ruth Bancroft 624 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:59,720 Speaker 2: Garden you know, gardeners or landscapers, and they they've reintroduced 625 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 2: some of the California natives out there, so that it's 626 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 2: going to be really well, you know, very exciting. 627 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 3: You know. 628 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 2: Obviously, they do identify the California natives so that in 629 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,439 Speaker 2: case you want one for your garden, you know the name, 630 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 2: so you can go ahead and do that. They do 631 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 2: also they have also used a long time ago, and 632 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 2: I haven't seen it anymore. They had a bit of 633 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 2: a nursery, but I haven't seen that emphasis up there. 634 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 2: Their emphasis is mostly on display gardening. And of course 635 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 2: they do these things to get you up there, and 636 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 2: this is going to be oh, I can't remember the 637 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 2: names of it, anyway, look forward to that. I'll be 638 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 2: going to the preview pretty soon here in April and 639 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 2: when I go up there, I will know more information 640 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:54,879 Speaker 2: and I'll talk to you about that the next right 641 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 2: after next Sunday, so the week after next Sunday, and 642 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to it. Colorful display of some very 643 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 2: large structures Mexican art. There's a story to it. It's 644 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,839 Speaker 2: going to be beautiful, gorgeous and all that. That's at 645 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 2: the Cinema Botanical Gardens, And don't forget Botanica is also 646 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 2: a place to go to see rhododendrons and maples and 647 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:25,400 Speaker 2: all sorts of gorgeous plants. The obviously magnolias came and 648 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 2: did most of their job already, and azaleas are pretty 649 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 2: much always going to be petering out this time year 650 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 2: with the heat. But gorgeous place to go as well, 651 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 2: that's up in Sebastopol, So keep those in mind when 652 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,279 Speaker 2: you're traveling around or looking for places to go. And 653 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 2: don't forget Philoli did invest in a They well, Piloly 654 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 2: and supporters of course, did get a troll to be 655 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 2: on permanent residency at Philoli Gardens. I hope you have 656 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 2: seen were able to go to the troll display last year. 657 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 2: I know a lot of my friend instead I'm like, 658 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 2: oh you saw this roll? Oh my god, did you 659 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 2: like the troll? So they love the trolls, So they 660 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 2: do have one that they have decided to keep or 661 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 2: have commissioned to build there, and so that will be 662 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 2: on permanent display fy lowally. Plus of course they have 663 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 2: all sorts of gardens there that are constantly maintained, some 664 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 2: wild garden areas, some cultivated garden areas, some English garden areas. 665 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 2: So if you're interested in seeing that, then plan a 666 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:36,319 Speaker 2: trip to Filowly and spend the day. And that's a 667 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 2: beautiful place down in Woodside, all right, California. So that's perfect, 668 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,280 Speaker 2: That's gorgeous. So today what I'm going to do. Of course, 669 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,799 Speaker 2: every Sunday except next week I won't, but I try 670 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,799 Speaker 2: to go to the farmer's market with my son. That's 671 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:56,319 Speaker 2: our day together. And last week we got to go 672 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 2: with one of a different roommate and it was really cute. 673 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 2: It was like she had not been to the farmer's 674 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 2: market she recently moved into the area, and she was overwhelmed. 675 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,839 Speaker 2: She was having so much fun, and I was just like, yeah, 676 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 2: it's really great to be able to see the farmer's 677 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,879 Speaker 2: market through somebody else's eyes. You know. The one thing 678 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 2: that my son usually decides to get there is depending 679 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 2: on what he's planning for the week of cooking. It's mushrooms, 680 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 2: and there's a wonderful There's a couple of beautiful mushroom 681 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 2: growers that are always there. Mushroom growers. Yeah, they're cultiv Yeah. 682 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 2: I was talking to him last week and they because 683 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 2: they don't harvest in the wild, they do all of 684 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:50,360 Speaker 2: their mushroom growing as cultivating, you know, cultivating. There was 685 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 2: a particular mushroom I think that really does not cultivate well. 686 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 2: And I can't remember all the details about it, but 687 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 2: it was very special, very rare, and could only be 688 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 2: found if it's harvested. So I'm wondering about that. That's 689 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 2: kind of an interesting thing. I can't remember what the 690 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 2: name of it was, but it was a very fortuitous 691 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 2: is that a word? Anyway, don't worry about it. So 692 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 2: that was kind of an interesting thing. Someone else I'm 693 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 2: following has also recently come out come out with a 694 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:31,919 Speaker 2: book on foraging, and her name is Nicole. I'll get 695 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,880 Speaker 2: her last name at some point, and she also goes 696 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 2: by on TikTok. She goes by the Black Forager. She 697 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:43,840 Speaker 2: is so entertaining and she always or she does so 698 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 2: much stuff, but she also brings up plants that she 699 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 2: finds that are either in the garden or out when 700 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,720 Speaker 2: she's walking or out in the forest that she can 701 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,319 Speaker 2: warn you about what is edible and what is not. 702 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,919 Speaker 2: And she has the she has done mushrooms before. She's 703 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 2: recently come out with a book, a cookbook basically on 704 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:10,879 Speaker 2: foraged plant material. She's a vegan and everything she does 705 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,719 Speaker 2: is from you know, from nature, and she calls it snacking, 706 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 2: you know, but it's kind of fun. I absolutely adore her. 707 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,440 Speaker 2: I'd love to be able to get her on the 708 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 2: radio because she'd be so entertaining. But yeah, I know 709 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,840 Speaker 2: you've probably run across her once or twice if you 710 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 2: do social media at all. And she is fantastic as 711 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,360 Speaker 2: far as her plant knowledge goes, especially when she finds 712 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 2: it in nature. And I just absolutely love it because 713 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 2: she really does explain even poisonous mushrooms since like you know, 714 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,440 Speaker 2: really look closely at these things that can you see this? 715 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 2: Can you see the difference? And she's very clear on 716 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:52,719 Speaker 2: like she