WEBVTT - Stop Saying Hoof!

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the

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<v Speaker 1>George Washington Broadcast Center.

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<v Speaker 2>Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now,

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<v Speaker 2>here's Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 3>Kraft Mac and Cheese this week introduced Chili Crisp and Cinnamon.

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<v Speaker 4>Flavored versions?

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<v Speaker 3>As in, sorry kids, all we have left is chili

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<v Speaker 3>crisp and cinnamon flavored.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Pretty sure my kids do like the original mac and

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<v Speaker 4>cheese flavor. Chili crisp or cinnamon? Or is that and cinnamon?

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<v Speaker 4>Is that two different flavors.

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<v Speaker 2>Or is it mixed together? Cinnamon macaroni and cheese. That

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<v Speaker 2>sounds terrible, but... I'm not sure I'm digging that.

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<v Speaker 1>Katie? Katie?

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<v Speaker 5>Do you think that these companies are releasing flavors like

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<v Speaker 5>this because they know people are going to have reactions

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<v Speaker 5>like we are, and they're going to buy them and do, like,

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<v Speaker 5>a taste test online, and it's, like, free publicity for

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<v Speaker 5>the company kind of thing?

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<v Speaker 4>My immediate reaction was, oh, yeah, mac and cheese.

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<v Speaker 2>We love that. Maybe I'll make some of that, the

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<v Speaker 2>original flavor.

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<v Speaker 4>The chili crisp sounds good. I really like Kraft macaroni

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<v Speaker 4>and cheese. It's so cheap. Who knows what's in it?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if any, like a cow, came within

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<v Speaker 4>a million miles of the cheese, but I like the

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<v Speaker 4>flavor of it. Man, you put some ketchup in there?

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<v Speaker 4>That's some good eating, aren't there?

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<v Speaker 2>As I've said in years past, I lived downwind of

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<v Speaker 2>the giant craft plant in Champaign, Illinois, and it didn't

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<v Speaker 2>smell like cheese, I'll tell you that. Good Lord.

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<v Speaker 4>Speaking of restaurants, Outback Steakhouse is filing for bankruptcy. citing

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<v Speaker 4>labor costs in California. It's too expensive to keep the

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<v Speaker 4>doors open with having a higher employees in California.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>With the artificially high wages. Yes.

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<v Speaker 4>It also said, uh, I wanted to get the wording right.

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of liked it. Uh, dwindling customers. That's a problem. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>now that's an issue.

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<v Speaker 4>People, people don't like our food, but the labor costs also,

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<v Speaker 4>let's not forget that. Um, Which brings me to what

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<v Speaker 4>Ted Cruz said. I will tell you about Diogenes coming up.

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<v Speaker 4>It's another Greek philosopher Thursday on the Armstrong and Getty

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<v Speaker 4>show where we go back to an ancient Greek philosopher

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<v Speaker 4>and we give a little bit of a bio on it. No,

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<v Speaker 4>I came across this Diogenes guy who invented... He was

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<v Speaker 4>the original cynic and the term cynicism, which is a

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<v Speaker 4>completely different word than the way we use it now, but...

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<v Speaker 4>It's pretty interesting, but his wife, holy crap, I learned

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<v Speaker 4>about it. Here's the little tease.

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<v Speaker 2>He lived in a barrel.

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<v Speaker 4>He lived in a barrel, and he defecated and did

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<v Speaker 4>other things in public.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, my.

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<v Speaker 4>You wouldn't think you could invent a philosophy that would

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<v Speaker 4>stick around for several thousand years with that lifestyle.

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<v Speaker 2>Did other things in public. I do other things in public.

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<v Speaker 5>All right.

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<v Speaker 4>He masturbated in public. He made me say the word.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>The time for you. See how you're mumbling half truths.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you saw the midterms, right? It's time for

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<v Speaker 2>hard truths. That's what I say. I blame others.

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<v Speaker 4>So I got to believe a lot of. Big time

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<v Speaker 4>politicians who are giving speeches and putting out long posts,

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<v Speaker 4>it's because they're angling to run for president or at

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<v Speaker 4>least sniffing around. DeSantis, governor of Florida. Governor of Florida

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<v Speaker 4>didn't lose a single election. statewide race from republicans to

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<v Speaker 4>democrats texas lost all of them i mean that's quite

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<v Speaker 4>a difference between two red states one state lost every

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<v Speaker 4>single statewide race to democrats ted cruz is the only

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<v Speaker 4>remaining republican uh because he wasn't up for re-election he

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<v Speaker 4>might have lost two whereas in florida they hung on

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<v Speaker 4>to all of them yeah That's quite the difference. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>Ron DeSantis' big speech, we'll play some of it a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit later. He gave his reasons, everything like that.

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<v Speaker 4>We talked about J.D. Vance last hour, and we'll be

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<v Speaker 4>talking about that more later.

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<v Speaker 2>He's angling.

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<v Speaker 4>And I assume this post from Ted Cruz yesterday, and

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<v Speaker 4>he did a big thing on his podcast. Everybody says

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<v Speaker 4>he's looking at running for president, too.

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<v Speaker 2>He's angling.

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<v Speaker 4>But I thought this was interesting information. He's talking about

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<v Speaker 4>why voters are so unhappy and how bad the economy is.

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<v Speaker 4>And some of these stats are amazing. I'm just reading

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<v Speaker 4>from Ted Cruz's. I think it's just from his podcast

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<v Speaker 4>yesterday and transcribed. Here are some stats that are a

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<v Speaker 4>lot more real and personal.

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<v Speaker 2>Spam.

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<v Speaker 4>Hormel's processed meat substitute.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I've ever actually had spam. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not a meat substitute. What is it? It's spam. Have

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<v Speaker 2>you eaten spam? I'm not sure if I have or not.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Spam, Hormel's processed meat substitute, broke record sales, selling 113

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<v Speaker 4>million cans last year. That's nearly as much spam as

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<v Speaker 4>was sold during the entirety of World War.

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<v Speaker 1>II.

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<v Speaker 2>The spam index.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, that's suggesting that people are eating more spam because

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<v Speaker 4>regular meat is so expensive, which certainly might be.

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<v Speaker 2>Regular meat is just insanely expensive. Jack, classic spam is

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<v Speaker 2>a canned, precooked meat product made from just six core ingredients.

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<v Speaker 2>Number one, pork with ham, primarily chopped pork shoulder mixed

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<v Speaker 2>with ham cut from the hind leg.

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<v Speaker 5>Hoof.

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<v Speaker 2>Salt. What? Stop saying hoof. Salt, water, potato starch included

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<v Speaker 2>to bind the ingredients and absorb excess juices during cooking, sugar,

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<v Speaker 2>and sodium nitrate, a food preservative that keeps the meat

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<v Speaker 2>from spoiling and gives it a pink color. Okay. What

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<v Speaker 2>was that first thing?

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<v Speaker 5>Pork.

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<v Speaker 2>But from where? With ham. Shoulder and the hind leg,

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<v Speaker 2>the ham. Both the shoulder and the ham. Okay, gotcha.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyway, I guess the point is because hamburger and steak

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<v Speaker 4>and all that sort of stuff is so expensive, more

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<v Speaker 4>people are eating spam. I don't want to get hung

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<v Speaker 4>up on this. I didn't mean to do a deep

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<v Speaker 4>dive like it's Diogenes on spam.

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<v Speaker 2>I've found it fascinating.

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<v Speaker 4>29% of Americans have used buy now, pay later for

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<v Speaker 4>groceries this year. That's double from two years ago. Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>that's no good. Double the number.

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<v Speaker 2>Almost a third of people doing buy now, pay later

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<v Speaker 2>for groceries. I'm going to do a payment plan for

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<v Speaker 2>today's grocery run. It's a three-year payment plan. Come on.

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<v Speaker 4>In August, banks repossessed 42% more homes than they did

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<v Speaker 4>last year. So this most recent month they got numbers

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<v Speaker 4>for 42% more homes repossessed than a year ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of that is skyrocketing interest rates for people who

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<v Speaker 2>took variable rate. Is that the term? Variable rate mortgages?

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<v Speaker 2>It's that term. Six years ago. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>In 2024, car repossessions topped 2.3 million. That's above the

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<v Speaker 4>2009 peak in the middle of the great financial crisis.

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<v Speaker 2>That's something.

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<v Speaker 4>In 2025, 6% of 401k holders took hardship withdrawals paying

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<v Speaker 4>the penalties. That is a record and triple the normal number.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>6% of people took their money out of their 401k.

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<v Speaker 4>I do have some questions about this, but I'll finish

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<v Speaker 4>this first from Ted Cruz. Still bearded Ted Cruz.

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<v Speaker 5>Good.

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<v Speaker 4>Still heavier than when he ran last time by a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>He's an older man. Here's one that's really stunning, says

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<v Speaker 4>Ted Cruz. Americans made more than 75 million paid plasma

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<v Speaker 4>donations in 2026. That's another record. That means 200,000 Americans

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<v Speaker 4>every single day with a needle in their arm to

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<v Speaker 4>pay for groceries. Now that's Ted Cruz putting the worst

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<v Speaker 4>spin on already troubling numbers, uh, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's anecdotal. Just looking around, are people doing buy now,

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<v Speaker 2>pay later on their groceries, getting their car repossessed, or

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<v Speaker 2>donating plasma to maintain a lifestyle that we all should

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<v Speaker 2>cut back on? Because restaurants and airports are still packed,

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<v Speaker 2>and concerts and ball games, and people have iPhones. Consumer

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<v Speaker 2>spending is up above the rate of inflation significantly. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Number one, a little political analysis. First of all, While J.D.

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<v Speaker 2>Vance is doubling down on the Jews on the mind crowd,

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<v Speaker 2>Ted appears to be thinking, all right, the blue collar

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<v Speaker 2>coalition that came together for Trump, the working class folks

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<v Speaker 2>who just care about kitchen table issues. That's my people.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going hard at them right now. Declaring his lane,

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<v Speaker 2>the Budweiser vote. I just made that up and it's

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<v Speaker 2>not very good. So, yeah, interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>So I read this from Neil Ferguson mentioned it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think that lots of people, the downturn has

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<v Speaker 4>caused them to go out and sell.

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<v Speaker 2>Plasma to pay for their spam? Yes, clearly. The numbers

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<v Speaker 2>are right there.

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<v Speaker 4>How much do I get? And is it per gallon

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<v Speaker 4>per liter?

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<v Speaker 2>Gosh, I don't know. I've never nobody would want my plasma,

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<v Speaker 2>so I've never donated it. If you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Anything about donating plasma, text, because I find that pretty interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>How much do they pay you? How often can you

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<v Speaker 4>do it? Text line 415-295-KFTC. As long as you can

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<v Speaker 4>keep walking in, they'll take your plasma. You know, you

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<v Speaker 4>pass out and crack your head. It's probably time to

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<v Speaker 4>take a break. I'm feeling a little weak from yesterday,

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<v Speaker 4>but I want to buy these concert tickets.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, exactly. So I mentioned this very briefly at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of yesterday's show, and I'm not sure exactly

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<v Speaker 2>what it means, but Neil Ferguson was one of many

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<v Speaker 2>folks from the free press the great scottish uh historian

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<v Speaker 2>taking shots at what the election meant and what it

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<v Speaker 2>didn't mean and that sort of thing um and the

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<v Speaker 2>most interesting part of his screed to me was he

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<v Speaker 2>was saying the economy is not nearly as bad as

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<v Speaker 2>people seem to think In September of this year, CPI

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<v Speaker 2>inflation was 3.72%, and the unemployment rate was 4.2%. Added together,

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<v Speaker 2>that gives you a misery index, a term that was

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<v Speaker 2>coined years and years ago, of 7.94%. And compare that

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<v Speaker 2>with the worst month since he was born in 1964,

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<v Speaker 2>May of 1980, 22 on the misery index. 22 inflation

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<v Speaker 2>plus unemployment index. Only a third of the months since

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<v Speaker 2>my birth, he writes, were better than this September. That

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<v Speaker 2>is hardly a disaster that merits a political that he

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<v Speaker 2>uses a French word I've never seen in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>And yet here we are. So to your point. By

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<v Speaker 2>objective measures. Is the economy really just not great, but

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<v Speaker 2>people are so addicted to a certain lavish lifestyle that

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<v Speaker 2>That they're spending themselves into foreclosures and repossessions and spam

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<v Speaker 2>purchases and plasma donations. Isn't the obvious course of action

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<v Speaker 2>to just live a much simpler and down-to-earth lifestyle?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know exactly. I don't know that anybody knows

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<v Speaker 4>for certain.

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<v Speaker 2>And look, those of you out there who are picking

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<v Speaker 2>up your keyboard, it's probably just sitting there. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>need to pick it up. You've got pen in hand

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<v Speaker 2>writing us a blistering email. I scrimp and I save. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we know you do. You are out there.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of people don't, though. Come on, go to Starbucks.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not indicting you.

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<v Speaker 4>Get in the drive through at Starbucks.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody's in line for something you don't need to buy

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<v Speaker 2>at all. All day long, there's a line at every

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<v Speaker 2>Starbucks and there's one on every block in every town

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<v Speaker 2>in America.

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<v Speaker 4>People are in line to buy things they don't need

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<v Speaker 4>to buy at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right for a ridiculous price as we used to say

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<v Speaker 2>back in the day on the show if we're not

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<v Speaker 2>talking about you we're not talking about you.

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<v Speaker 4>We are talking about a lot of you though a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of you are liars.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no no target our audience i won't have it

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<v Speaker 2>you're as crazy as jd vance somebody needs to reign

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<v Speaker 2>you in a lot of people pretend they don't have

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<v Speaker 2>a 1200 iphone go to starbucks once a day Travel

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<v Speaker 2>way more than their parents do.

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<v Speaker 4>Drive a way nicer car than their parents did.

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<v Speaker 2>Giant house. Have five different subscriptions.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't need them all.

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<v Speaker 2>Lots of people do that. My God, he's lost his mind. Michael,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like we're working with Diogenes here.

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<v Speaker 4>Go back to your barrel, you madman.

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<v Speaker 2>Quit yelling at us.

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<v Speaker 4>Go back to your barrel.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Katie.

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<v Speaker 5>Joe, you knew exactly what you were doing when you

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<v Speaker 5>wind him up.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, so satisfying. That's true.

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<v Speaker 4>He winds me up and then he's like, okay, I

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<v Speaker 4>got a few minutes.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Drink some coffee.

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<v Speaker 4>He just had a snack.

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<v Speaker 2>About time to yell at him to calm the hell down. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Calm the hell down. He completely walked away.

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<v Speaker 2>Came back. Oh, he's still going. I still got another minute. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Relieved myself. Oh, boy. Not in public, by the way. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>We will tell you about Diogenes, among other things on

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<v Speaker 2>the way. Stay here. The Armstrong and Getty Show.

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<v Speaker 3>President Trump criticized Democrats and said, quote, the Democrat Party

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<v Speaker 3>has nominated the most extreme and dangerous slate of candidates

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<v Speaker 3>in American history.

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<v Speaker 4>You mean James Tallarico?

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<v Speaker 5>No.

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<v Speaker 3>He looks like he waited until he was 21 to

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<v Speaker 3>try seltzer.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a funny line. A woke Democratic soy boy sent

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<v Speaker 2>to the Senate from Texas. What do we got coming up?

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<v Speaker 2>Coming up, some people are saying, look at the woke

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<v Speaker 2>socialist lunatics elected to Congress. Others are saying moderate Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>clearly won the day. They're both right. We'll put it

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<v Speaker 2>into perspective for you, let you know a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of what to expect from the new Democratic majority. So

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<v Speaker 2>how did I get started on this yesterday? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>The idea of.

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<v Speaker 4>Coming out of election, thinking about cynicism, which by the

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<v Speaker 4>modern definition that we all use, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>that going on in politics and that sort of thing. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>how would you define cynicism in the modern way?

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<v Speaker 2>It's... you're knee-jerk against everything, you're just kind of snarky.

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<v Speaker 2>And a certain amount of most people, I mean, this

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<v Speaker 2>is how it got started and around, I think, the

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<v Speaker 2>year 200 or something like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Um, when it got remade, I'll go back to the

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<v Speaker 4>original version of cynicism, but the modern version started with, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>all those people claiming that they care.

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<v Speaker 2>About this and that in the world and blah, blah, blah.

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<v Speaker 2>They're just, they just say that they're hypocrites. They're all hypocrites.

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<v Speaker 4>None of them actually mean it, which is a very

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<v Speaker 4>cynical view using the word, the way we use it now.

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<v Speaker 4>But it started with this guy, Diogenes. He's a Greek philosopher. And, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>his whole thing with cynicism at the time was, um,

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<v Speaker 4>The more stuff you have, the more stuff you'll want

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<v Speaker 4>and you'll never be happy. And the only way to

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<v Speaker 4>be happy is to not care about stuff was basically

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<v Speaker 4>his thing.

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<v Speaker 2>For a long, long time.

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<v Speaker 4>He lived in a jar or a barrel, depending on

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<v Speaker 4>how you define the sort of thing, a big ceramic

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<v Speaker 4>jar in Greece. He lived in a big ceramic jar.

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<v Speaker 2>Was it, like, turned on its side? Yeah. Or did

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<v Speaker 2>he have to climb in and out of the top?

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<v Speaker 4>All the pictures show it turned on its side. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>he'd just kind of hang out in there. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I keep picturing, you know, various homeless people and thinking,

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<v Speaker 4>but he became very famous for this. He walked around

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<v Speaker 4>with a candle for a very long time. And everybody's

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<v Speaker 4>asking me what's at the can. I'm looking for one

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<v Speaker 4>honest man. Okay, that was one of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, you're blowing my mind. He lived with absolutely nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>He begged, which I don't get how that fits into

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<v Speaker 2>any philosophy. You're counting on other people to feel sorry

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<v Speaker 2>for you to give you stuff. I never get how

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<v Speaker 2>that fits into a philosophy. But anyway, he begged rather

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<v Speaker 2>than worked because of blah, blah, blah. But some of

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<v Speaker 2>the funny things was he'd defecate in public. He would

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<v Speaker 2>masturbate in public because he just didn't believe in any

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<v Speaker 2>of the rules of society. They're all phony and.

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<v Speaker 4>One of the most famous things he ever did is

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<v Speaker 4>Alexander the Great was aware of him, the most powerful

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<v Speaker 4>man in the world at the time, and came to

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<v Speaker 4>Diogenes and said, I could give you anything. If you

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<v Speaker 4>wanted one thing from me, what would it be? And

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<v Speaker 4>Diogenes said, get out of my light. You're standing in

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<v Speaker 4>the sun. Um, that's all, all he asked for him.

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<v Speaker 4>Plato defined man as a, a featherless biped and Diogenes

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<v Speaker 4>brought him a chicken that he had plucked and said,

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<v Speaker 4>behold Plato's man or something like that. But anyway, that's

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<v Speaker 4>the founder of cynicism. They went down to the village

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<v Speaker 4>square and yanked it. Quite a fellow that Diogenes. Lived

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<v Speaker 4>in a barrel. Some believe that he held his breath

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<v Speaker 4>until he died finally in old age.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And everybody around him said, good. Yeah. See you later.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 4>The Armstrong and Getty Show.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to abolish ICE.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, there is no reason for this institution to exist.

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<v Speaker 2>I got one goal here on Senate Island, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>to pass Medicare for All, and I'm not afraid to

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<v Speaker 2>step on people's toes.

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<v Speaker 4>Our trans community needs abortion care, too.

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<v Speaker 2>There are many more than two biological sexes. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>there are six. We will not wait to abolish ICE

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<v Speaker 2>and pass Medicare for All! All right. Shouting lefties. Screeching

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<v Speaker 2>about their socialist nonsense.

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<v Speaker 4>I assume a whole bunch of young Democratic voters who

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<v Speaker 4>don't know any better because they haven't been through this

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<v Speaker 4>a million times like we all have. When Medicare for

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<v Speaker 4>all does not happen because they don't have the votes

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<v Speaker 4>to make it happen.

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<v Speaker 2>And paying for it is a pipe dream. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>me buying a Learjet.

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<v Speaker 4>But it ain't going to happen in two years. It

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<v Speaker 4>ain't going to happen anytime soon. And they'll be disaffected

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<v Speaker 4>voters the next time around because they'll realize you made

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<v Speaker 4>all these promises.

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<v Speaker 2>Medicare for all. Yeah, well, it didn't happen. So I

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<v Speaker 2>don't work my fingers to the bone, but I read

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<v Speaker 2>my eyes down to the retina or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've been plowing through all sorts of takes on

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<v Speaker 2>the Republican defeat, obviously, and the Democratic win and what

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<v Speaker 2>it might mean. And I love Noah Rothman of the

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<v Speaker 2>National Review. He's absolutely brilliant. He's as serious as a

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<v Speaker 2>heart attack, but a lot of great insights. And his

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<v Speaker 2>headline is Here Come the Socialists. And he highlights quite

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<v Speaker 2>a decent little cabal of cuckoo birds that are joining

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<v Speaker 2>the squad type. You know, name check some of them.

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<v Speaker 4>And NPR, and I think they mentioned there are there

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<v Speaker 4>will be seven actual DSA members. I mean, you got

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<v Speaker 4>people that are DSA aligned, but actual DSA members. How

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<v Speaker 4>do these DSA members not have to answer questions about

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<v Speaker 4>the platform? Your platform says get rid of the presidency,

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<v Speaker 4>for instance.

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<v Speaker 2>And the Constitution in general. What the hell? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got, uh, Milat Kuros, who's a woman from Colorado. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>she's a longtime DSA, uh, Maven. Uh, her platform included

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<v Speaker 2>nationalizing the private health insurance industry, canceling all medical debt, slavery, slavery, reparations,

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<v Speaker 2>et cetera. Um, Amazingly, Rothman writes she did so while

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<v Speaker 2>articulating almost verbatim Osama bin Laden's logic for the September

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<v Speaker 2>11th attacks. Then you've got Adam Hamaway of New Jersey,

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<v Speaker 2>longtime associate of the blind Sheikh. I've been reading about

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<v Speaker 2>him in the Atlantic of all places, the lefty Atlantic.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude is down with Islamism. 100% hardcore political Islam needs

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<v Speaker 2>to take over the globe. More on him later. Pennsylvania's

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<v Speaker 2>new third district representative, Chris Rabb, will take office on

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<v Speaker 2>the back of what he said should be America's universal

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<v Speaker 2>basic guarantees, among them health insurance, food and water, public transportation,

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<v Speaker 2>high-speed internet, child care, a job, and an income, all

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<v Speaker 2>of which should be guaranteed by the government. Rabb flew

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<v Speaker 2>under the national media's radar for much of the campaign,

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<v Speaker 2>except once when he claimed that we all know that

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<v Speaker 2>that 2025 massacre of Australian Jews on Bondi Beach, remember that?

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<v Speaker 2>He said, we all know it was committed by attackers

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<v Speaker 2>who are likely Zionists themselves. Whoa. So he's one of

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<v Speaker 2>those guys. He got to Donovan McKinney, was backed in Michigan,

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<v Speaker 2>and a couple of other geeks. Oh, the delightful Daryl

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<v Speaker 2>Liza Avila Chevalier, the most dogmatic member of the highly

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<v Speaker 2>ideological cast from New York, who wants to seize all

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<v Speaker 2>property from landlords, etc.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what philosopher my current mindset fits in with.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe Diogenes. Maybe I'll start living in a barrel.

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<v Speaker 4>And doing my business in public.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Lord.

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<v Speaker 4>But I've adopted the, I remember hearing George Carlin say

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<v Speaker 4>this many, many years ago, the comedian George Carlin, the

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<v Speaker 4>hippie comedian. that he just found the world interesting. And

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<v Speaker 4>he's just like, hmm, that person decides to be a

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<v Speaker 4>suicide bomber, and that person decides to do that, and

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<v Speaker 4>what is.

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<v Speaker 2>Going on there? And that's kind of where I am now.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I will argue, this is what I do

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<v Speaker 4>for a living, for the things I think are the

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<v Speaker 4>right direction, but I am in a mode of, whether

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<v Speaker 4>it's AI or the politics or culture or whatever, just

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<v Speaker 4>kind of a, it's going to be interesting to watch this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, maybe it's age. Could be, could be age.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, speaking of the cynics, I was doing

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<v Speaker 2>a little reading during the commercial break. I so enjoyed

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<v Speaker 2>your introduction to the classical cynics that I discovered the

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<v Speaker 2>original term kynikos from the Greek means dog like. And

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<v Speaker 2>that was the insult that people threw at them because

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<v Speaker 2>they lived in the streets like dogs living in jars,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, pooping in in public as if they're in

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<v Speaker 2>San Francisco. And they embraced the insult and wore it proudly. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I didn't get to finish with... Oh, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I'll finish my damn point about the Democrats. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>back to you.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a point to this that I think will fit

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<v Speaker 4>with that. So I didn't get to finish with the

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<v Speaker 4>original Diogenes who invented cynicism and everything like that. And

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<v Speaker 4>the definition has changed because a bunch of people who

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<v Speaker 4>adopted kind of... the, his worldview, but not really. They

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<v Speaker 4>just wanted to do the most lazy part and party,

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<v Speaker 4>but none of the like actual living a basic life

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<v Speaker 4>of only necessity that he, I shouldn't say preached because

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<v Speaker 4>it wasn't original.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're kind of trustafarian.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, exactly. And that's where cynicism came from. People called

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<v Speaker 4>those people because they're kind of just putting on the

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<v Speaker 4>idea of living a A life of of of you

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<v Speaker 4>don't need stuff and all that sort of stuff. They

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<v Speaker 4>were just lazy hippies who wanted to be drunk all

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<v Speaker 4>the time, which is a different thing. And so that's

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<v Speaker 4>where cynical came from. And it fits in with the

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<v Speaker 4>politics of the day. Really, that term is just a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of people who claim all kinds of things.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, you don't.

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<v Speaker 4>You just want to go to Washington, D.C. and end

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<v Speaker 4>up in power and enrich yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>OK, so back to the question of was the election

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<v Speaker 2>a sign of DSA lunatics on the march or was

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<v Speaker 2>it a victory of moderate Democrats? And the answer is yes,

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<v Speaker 2>it was both. There are absolutely more socialist lunatics who

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<v Speaker 2>are going to be in Congress. And some of the

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<v Speaker 2>down ballot races and some of your blue places, mayoral

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<v Speaker 2>races and councils and stuff like that. The left is

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<v Speaker 2>unquestionably on the march. And even, you know, the Trump

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<v Speaker 2>fans White House. has leaned way left compared to classical

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<v Speaker 2>Republican values. So the country's leaning left. Looked at through

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<v Speaker 2>another lens, though, taking a look at the Democrats' sweeping

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<v Speaker 2>victory this week where they gained many, many seats in

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<v Speaker 2>the House and a damn lot in the Senate. The

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<v Speaker 2>numbers aren't firmed up yet. We'll let you know when

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<v Speaker 2>they're final. But there were... Three are where do I

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<v Speaker 2>have those numbers? I want to get it right. In short,

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<v Speaker 2>the Blue Dog Coalition, a caucus of moderate and conservative

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats in the House, announced on Wednesday that it had

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<v Speaker 2>added at least 14 members to its ranks, nearly doubling

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<v Speaker 2>its size. And other centrist groups, including the New Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>and Problem Solvers, strengthened their numbers substantially. I'm sorry, this

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<v Speaker 2>is a long article and I couldn't highlight it because

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<v Speaker 2>it's not I didn't print it. But among the seats

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<v Speaker 2>that were flipped from red to blue, the vast, vast

0:25:38.890 --> 0:25:44.870
<v Speaker 2>majority were flipped to moderates or at least people doing

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<v Speaker 2>a damn good imitation of moderates. And it was a very,

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<v Speaker 2>very few moderates. that were flipped by lefties. Now, you

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<v Speaker 2>might say, well, Joseph, any district that could be flipped

0:25:57.140 --> 0:26:00.220
<v Speaker 2>at all is going to be a fairly moderate district.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if it's flippable, it's not going to go

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<v Speaker 2>for a real lefty. And you're right. But in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of the energy and the this-is-our-party dynamic, the moderates absolutely

0:26:15.570 --> 0:26:18.830
<v Speaker 2>have the upper hand over the firebrands and will seek

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<v Speaker 2>to either co-opt them Or just tell them to sit

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<v Speaker 2>down and shut up. Sure. I definitely believe that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Make like Diogenes and crawl into your jar, you maniacs.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what they'll say. I just really enjoyed that conversation. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I got some more.

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<v Speaker 4>People are texting with some great Diogenes quotes that I

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<v Speaker 4>left out.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll have to get to that next segment. Well, coming up,

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<v Speaker 2>perhaps next hour, the war among the MAGA grifters online

0:26:47.470 --> 0:26:52.429
<v Speaker 2>and podcasts and radio and whatever. uh, of who's to blame. And,

0:26:53.150 --> 0:26:55.940
<v Speaker 2>and it just, it's, well, they're all a bunch of grifters.

0:26:56.180 --> 0:26:58.700
<v Speaker 2>Not everybody who's a fan of Trump and his policies

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<v Speaker 2>as a grifter. Don't get me wrong, but you know

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<v Speaker 2>who I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I could name check them pretty quickly. So, uh, coming up,

0:27:06.619 --> 0:27:08.879
<v Speaker 4>we've got a bunch of different texts, why spam sales

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<v Speaker 4>are up. Some Diogenes quotes that are really pretty interesting

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<v Speaker 4>to think about. And, and maybe the saddest text we've

0:27:15.130 --> 0:27:17.629
<v Speaker 4>ever got and not in a, not in an actual

0:27:17.710 --> 0:27:19.619
<v Speaker 4>sad way, but, um, Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get to that coming up. Hey, so I know

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of people like we're about to describe people

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<v Speaker 2>and have made a bit of money. But the whole

0:27:32.500 --> 0:27:36.740
<v Speaker 2>like a pretentious world of the wealthy is not for them.

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<v Speaker 1>Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 2>The Armstrong and Getty Show.

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<v Speaker 4>Hanson, the producer, just brought us a couple of tweets

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<v Speaker 4>in conflict. Nate Silver, the famous pollster, said his intuition

0:28:49.940 --> 0:28:54.050
<v Speaker 4>is telling him Trump may quit. Nicki Minaj, however, tweeted out,

0:28:54.170 --> 0:28:57.250
<v Speaker 4>Trump is still your president. So maybe they can do

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<v Speaker 4>a podcast together and straighten that out.

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<v Speaker 2>I would listen to that.

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<v Speaker 4>We were talking earlier, Ted Cruz, a long explanation for

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<v Speaker 4>how bad the economy is. It was kind of interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>Got an interesting text from somebody explaining some of them.

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<v Speaker 4>The reason spam is up, spam sales are up so much,

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<v Speaker 4>is preppers. It's huge in the prepper community and the

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<v Speaker 4>whole everything's about to fall apart. Getting ready for the

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<v Speaker 4>end times, either politically or religious wise. People are buying

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<v Speaker 4>tons of spam.

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<v Speaker 2>Filipinos like spam, too. They have that on very good authority.

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<v Speaker 2>This person says pulling money out of your 401k. A

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people are doing that because they think the

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<v Speaker 2>whole thing, the whole. everything's about to collapse and they

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<v Speaker 2>want cash and it's a prepper thing also so there

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<v Speaker 2>you go might be true i don't have i hope

0:29:46.500 --> 0:29:48.790
<v Speaker 2>you're not right y'all well i hope you're not right

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<v Speaker 2>it would be better that people are doing it that

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<v Speaker 2>for that reason then the economy is so bad people

0:29:53.890 --> 0:29:57.430
<v Speaker 2>need to get into 401ks but Oh, and then the

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<v Speaker 2>plasma thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Plasma is up because it just caught on as a

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<v Speaker 4>thing among all the drug addicts everywhere that, oh, I

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<v Speaker 4>can just go sell my bodily fluids and get 10

0:30:06.140 --> 0:30:08.100
<v Speaker 4>bucks and then go buy everything I need to be

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<v Speaker 4>high for the day. OK, that doesn't surprise me that that. OK,

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<v Speaker 4>so that explains some of this.

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<v Speaker 2>Why be like Diogenes and give it away? You know,

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<v Speaker 2>not plasma, but you know what?

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<v Speaker 4>Back to Diogenes, who lived in a barrel and defecated

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<v Speaker 4>in public and believed wanting stuff was the root of misery.

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<v Speaker 4>And one of the quotes I really liked was, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't remember if he was talking to Alexander the Great.

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<v Speaker 4>For some reason, he became famous, this Diogenes, in Greece

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<v Speaker 4>way back in the day. And he was even famous

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<v Speaker 4>with the most popular man in the world, or the

0:30:38.610 --> 0:30:40.610
<v Speaker 4>most powerful man in the world, Alexander the Great. But

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<v Speaker 4>everybody knew about Diogenes and his thinking. Must be one

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<v Speaker 4>of those people you come across now and then and

0:30:48.250 --> 0:30:51.410
<v Speaker 4>just seem like sages. So you, even though they seem

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<v Speaker 4>kind of wacky, you kind of wonder what they think

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<v Speaker 4>about various things.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sure.

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<v Speaker 4>Diogenes said, why do you do all this stuff you do,

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<v Speaker 4>conquering this, so that someday I can, what's the point

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<v Speaker 4>of it all? What are you going to do eventually?

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<v Speaker 4>So someday I can rest. Well, that's what I'm doing

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<v Speaker 4>now and I didn't have to do anything. It's basically that,

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<v Speaker 4>which is, I thought about that for a while yesterday

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<v Speaker 4>with the whole, hmm. You can do that much earlier

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<v Speaker 4>in your life than most people do.

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<v Speaker 2>I am a man who craves leisure.

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<v Speaker 4>Depending on how much, but if you get rid of

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<v Speaker 4>the idea of what level of stuff you need to

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<v Speaker 4>have for the rest of your life, which doesn't really

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<v Speaker 4>do you that much good.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't know. That's a complicated one.

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<v Speaker 4>Some of the Diogenes quotes that people were texting, Alexander

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<v Speaker 4>asked why Diogenes was looking at a pile of bones.

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<v Speaker 4>Diogenes said, I cannot tell the difference between the bones

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<v Speaker 4>of your father and those of a slave.

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<v Speaker 2>In other words, we're all going to end up in

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<v Speaker 2>the same spot. Totally get it.

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<v Speaker 4>And this is a quote, and nobody knows if these

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<v Speaker 4>are all true or all apocryphal or whatever. There was

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<v Speaker 4>a guy named Diogenes, but all kinds of stuff attributed

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<v Speaker 4>to him. Alexander said after talking to Didot, the philosopher,

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<v Speaker 4>if I were not Alexander, I would want to be Diogenes,

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<v Speaker 4>which is an interesting thing for him to decide.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you run into somebody who's perfectly happy without stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>and you do feel a little bit of a, aw.

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<v Speaker 2>Why am I not doing that? Is he really doing that?

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<v Speaker 4>It seems like he actually means it.

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<v Speaker 5>Aw.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you actually happy? You seem happy. That's interesting. There's

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<v Speaker 2>greats of Thebes. I read that. I didn't know it.

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<v Speaker 2>And it strikes me as very Buddhist philosophy as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, obviously, it's. line of thinking is endured through

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<v Speaker 2>the ages. So I was watching, it's, yeah, it's troubling.

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<v Speaker 4>I was watching, I was watching this hilarious video about

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<v Speaker 4>Diogenes yesterday and, and the guy ended with, so that

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<v Speaker 4>next seems like a crazy homeless person you pass on

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<v Speaker 4>the street might be a brilliant philosopher or maybe a

0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:57.040
<v Speaker 4>crazy person. So I'd bring a knife. And then I

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<v Speaker 4>promised the saddest text that maybe we've ever gotten. This

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<v Speaker 4>is the whole text. Depressed and gloomy, plus I think

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<v Speaker 4>I'm fading away.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's poetry. What is that? Any idea how I

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<v Speaker 2>should react to that, Michael? Is that like the first

0:33:14.880 --> 0:33:17.460
<v Speaker 2>line of an air supply song? Is that a call

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<v Speaker 2>for help?

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<v Speaker 4>Should I do a wellness check at this phone number? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it might be the first lines of a Dylan song.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm getting cry for help.

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<v Speaker 2>Depressed and gloomy, plus I think I'm fading away? What

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<v Speaker 2>is that? That's a good line. What should I text back?

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<v Speaker 5>Sup?

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<v Speaker 2>Just the letter K.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I'm just kidding. Don't do that.

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<v Speaker 2>LOL. A thumbs up emoji.

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<v Speaker 1>LOL.

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<v Speaker 4>Lots of love.

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<v Speaker 2>The thumbs up emoji. Hey, dot, dot, dot. I have

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<v Speaker 2>problems too. Oh, okay. I like that one. I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Depressed and you know god dang it now you've started

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<v Speaker 2>me thinking about the whole diogenes thing and you know

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<v Speaker 2>how much you want.

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<v Speaker 4>To be really street oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not new every day uh well how.

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<v Speaker 4>Much stuff you need we all know this how much

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<v Speaker 4>stuff you need you need enough to eat and shelter

0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:29.080
<v Speaker 4>that's safe beyond that very little Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And you need enough that when you're retired, you can

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<v Speaker 2>continue to do that and pay for medical care. Right. Obviously,

0:34:34.980 --> 0:34:38.140
<v Speaker 2>there's that until my socialist friends get Medicare for all

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<v Speaker 2>going for all of mankind, including illegal immigrants and transgender murderers. But, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I was. I was exhausted mentally from following the election

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<v Speaker 2>and the commentary in the post, you know, the autopsies

0:34:53.969 --> 0:34:55.689
<v Speaker 2>and and the rest that I went for a walk

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<v Speaker 2>on the beach and watch the waves crash. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was as happy as I've been in a very long time.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was as simple a pleasure as there is

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<v Speaker 2>just looking at God's creation. Period.

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<v Speaker 4>That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe old the D-man had it going on. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. I don't think I'll give away everything I

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<v Speaker 2>have just to make sure.

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<v Speaker 4>It's difficult in that pretty much our entire economy is

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<v Speaker 4>built on not that philosophy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, that's y'all's problem.

0:35:25.640 --> 0:35:29.259
<v Speaker 4>This bigger house, this newer car, these different pants, this

0:35:29.340 --> 0:35:34.590
<v Speaker 4>nicer restaurant. Almost our entire economy is built on convincing

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<v Speaker 4>us our whole lives that that is true.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm headed back to the beach. I might stop

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<v Speaker 2>and poop on the way right there on the sidewalk.

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<v Speaker 4>Get yourself a bigger jar. That's what Diogenes probably needed.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a bigger jar to live in. But you

0:35:48.950 --> 0:35:51.529
<v Speaker 4>can step out of that anytime you want. Nobody's stopping

0:35:51.570 --> 0:35:53.299
<v Speaker 4>you to where, you know what? I don't care about

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<v Speaker 4>any of those things.

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<v Speaker 2>You all knock yourself out, have your fun.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not even criticizing you, but I'm going to live

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<v Speaker 4>like this over here.

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<v Speaker 2>You know my philosophy, which I've never really put together

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<v Speaker 2>in a coherent way.

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<v Speaker 4>Which is.

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<v Speaker 2>Understand how much of what you do is based on

0:36:11.210 --> 0:36:16.549
<v Speaker 2>certain assumptions. And then look at those assumptions. It's like

0:36:16.730 --> 0:36:21.150
<v Speaker 2>everybody's making themselves absolutely freaking miserable on social media, for instance.

0:36:22.230 --> 0:36:26.330
<v Speaker 2>Why are you doing that? Because Mark Zuckerberg designed something

0:36:26.710 --> 0:36:29.330
<v Speaker 2>that teases your brain into doing it and doing it

0:36:29.390 --> 0:36:31.950
<v Speaker 2>and doing it? Question all your assumptions all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>But don't work it in front of me, please.

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<v Speaker 4>I got this example in my head today. I saw

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<v Speaker 4>what somebody else's house looks like on the inside getting

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<v Speaker 4>ready for Christmas. And I was like, my kids are

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<v Speaker 4>living in a hellhole compared to what I should be doing.

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<v Speaker 4>This is their only childhood. And I've been living with

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<v Speaker 4>that for like the last 18 hours.

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<v Speaker 2>And my house is big enough that the family is

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<v Speaker 2>going to gather for Thanksgiving and we can almost all

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<v Speaker 2>of us stay here. And that brings me joy.

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<v Speaker 5>So.

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<v Speaker 2>Could they fit in a jar? I'm strong and getty.