WEBVTT - Barbara Stone On Xavier Becerra's Basement Strategy

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<v Speaker 1>Something's not right here. Crime is up all over the state.

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<v Speaker 2>The homelessness in the city is out of control.

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<v Speaker 3>The economy is sick.

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<v Speaker 4>Taxes are high. Housing is expensive and businesses are leaving.

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<v Speaker 3>California needs fixing. And John Phillips is just the man

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<v Speaker 3>to lead the charge. It's the Fix California Hour with

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<v Speaker 3>John Phillips and Randy Wang.

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<v Speaker 1>And we continue at one Oh five in the afternoon

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<v Speaker 1>on the John Phillips show, Mr. Randy Wang's in Culver city, Johnny.

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<v Speaker 4>don't like.com. Scott Allen Myers is in the chat room

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<v Speaker 4>right now. And he said, Burbank has reported zero homeless

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<v Speaker 4>fires in 2025.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a Los Angeles problem, like so many problems

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<v Speaker 1>in the region. It's a city that just doesn't function.

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<v Speaker 4>And we're going to either elect the same person to

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<v Speaker 4>do the bad job again or someone that will do

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<v Speaker 4>exactly as bad of a job as she does. There

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<v Speaker 4>are no good choices in L.A. We've done this to ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>800-222-5222 is the telephone number 1-800-222-5222. It is our pleasure

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<v Speaker 1>to welcome our next guest to the program. She is

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<v Speaker 1>a professor of political science emeritus at California State University

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<v Speaker 1>at Fullerton, Professor Barbara Stone. Welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, John.

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<v Speaker 1>So you look at this last story that we just did,

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<v Speaker 1>where there are 12,000 fires that have been started this

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<v Speaker 1>year alone in the city of Los Angeles by the homeless.

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<v Speaker 1>If you... project that things are going to go at

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<v Speaker 1>that same rate the rest of the year, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to have over 15,000 fires started by the homeless. That

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<v Speaker 1>equates to about 47 homeless fires started every single day.

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<v Speaker 1>And Karen Bass is patting herself on the back wanting

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<v Speaker 1>praise because it's down from 50 last year. Our alternative

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<v Speaker 1>candidate on the ballot, Nithya Raman, wants to bust up

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<v Speaker 1>fewer homeless encampments than Bass is doing, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>what we're left with in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and it's not going to get better. I was

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<v Speaker 2>contemplating the other day, you realize it wasn't, oh Lord, John, what,

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<v Speaker 2>four years ago? That I don't know how wonderful Rick

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<v Speaker 2>Caruso would have been But I know he would have

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<v Speaker 2>been a lot better than these people. And at least

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<v Speaker 2>he had some idea of what you needed to do

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<v Speaker 2>in a city where you took into account all the residents.

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<v Speaker 2>And remember, Joe Biden came.

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<v Speaker 4>He was president.

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<v Speaker 2>Kamala Harris came, giggled all the way. She was vice president.

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<v Speaker 2>And they literally told L.A. to elect Karen Bass, which

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<v Speaker 2>they did. And so it's their fault, voters of L.A.

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<v Speaker 2>But they were burning things then, and they're burning things now. And, John,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what you do about it, because you've

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<v Speaker 2>got some factors going here. By the way, one is

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<v Speaker 2>completely misunderstanding the homeless population. There is not a homeless

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<v Speaker 2>population here. There are the very few who are homeless

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<v Speaker 2>because of things beyond their control, and you can help them.

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<v Speaker 2>There are women and children escaping abusive husbands. You can

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<v Speaker 2>help them. You have the just plain crazy, and those

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<v Speaker 2>are really hard to help, and then you have the

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<v Speaker 2>substance abusers who overlap with the just plain crazy, and

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<v Speaker 2>you can't. You can't just expect these people, if you

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<v Speaker 2>give them a place to live, Mayor Bass, to be okay.

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<v Speaker 2>The problem you get into is you somewhere put together

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<v Speaker 2>that misunderstanding with seriously misplaced compassion. And that, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>is always going to be on the left. The right

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<v Speaker 2>has problems, but that's not one of them. And then

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<v Speaker 2>you have the power of the homeless advocates. People who,

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<v Speaker 2>if you solved homelessness tomorrow, you do realize they'd be

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<v Speaker 2>out of a job. No more nonprofits. No more being

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<v Speaker 2>there day and night to help these poor people. They

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<v Speaker 2>can't have the problem solved, even if you could solve it.

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<v Speaker 2>And you put that together, and that city is in

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<v Speaker 2>a world of hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, here's another element that we see every single time

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<v Speaker 1>we do this story. They go to the man on

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<v Speaker 1>the street interview, the person whose home burned down, the

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<v Speaker 1>person whose car burned down, the person whose neighborhood has

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<v Speaker 1>been infested with rats because of the homeless encampments. And

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<v Speaker 1>to a person, they go, these people need more services.

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<v Speaker 1>These people need more help. They need housing to be

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<v Speaker 1>offered to them. And then you cut to the interview

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<v Speaker 1>with the bum saying, And the bum goes, yeah, I've

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<v Speaker 1>been offered services a million times. I don't want it.

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<v Speaker 1>There are rules there. I want to live here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, and that goes to, excuse me, the way we're

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<v Speaker 2>running things in the state these days, which is that

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<v Speaker 2>if you came up with a decent plan, the people

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<v Speaker 2>living here these days, particularly on the west side, particularly

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<v Speaker 2>the decision-makers... many of whom's houses burned down in the Palisades,

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<v Speaker 2>the idea of coercing these folks that quote-unquote need help

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<v Speaker 2>is something that they just won't do. And as long

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<v Speaker 2>as that's true, what you get are the encampments where

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<v Speaker 2>you get all the people I just talked about, plus

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<v Speaker 2>the criminals. I mean, I gather those are nice places

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to buy certain drugs and move certain

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<v Speaker 2>stolen materials, that they become that, and you have another

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<v Speaker 2>group who has a real interest in keeping them going. John,

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<v Speaker 2>I have never understood, and that's the absolute truth. I've

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<v Speaker 2>lived all my life in the L.A. area. I have

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<v Speaker 2>never understood the impulses of the rich West Side limousine liberals.

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<v Speaker 2>I just never have. somehow or another they seem to

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<v Speaker 2>think i don't know what they think but it's the

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<v Speaker 2>kind of thing where they are being good people when

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<v Speaker 2>they tolerate all this and they try to take care

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<v Speaker 2>of people when they bow down to black lives matters

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<v Speaker 2>yes yes it's my white privilege i need to do

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<v Speaker 2>something about that but of course they're patting themselves on

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<v Speaker 2>the back that only they can fix it, but they

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<v Speaker 2>have no intention of fixing it. I literally don't understand

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<v Speaker 2>those people, so I'm not real helpful here.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'll throw something else at you, too. If we

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<v Speaker 1>actually got serious about solving this problem and we decided, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>either you go into a mental institution or you go

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<v Speaker 1>into rehab or you go to prison and we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to go fill the paddy wagons and we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>take all these people to prison... and we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>destroy their stuff, and we're going to bust up the encampments,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're going to power wash the sidewalk, and the

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<v Speaker 1>sidewalk is going to go back to the people in

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<v Speaker 1>the neighborhood, I think you would have massive protests in

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<v Speaker 1>the streets. I don't think, politically speaking, the population that

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<v Speaker 1>currently exists in this city would allow that to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that you're 100% correct. Plus, let's not just

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<v Speaker 2>blame those people. Let's start with the political leadership. Always remember,

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<v Speaker 2>Gavin had an answer for this. Gavin has answers for

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<v Speaker 2>many things, which seem to change with the winds. But

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<v Speaker 2>remember Gavin's courts, his health courts, his mental health courts,

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<v Speaker 2>excuse me, the ones where he's going to help these

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<v Speaker 2>poor people and give them diversion and be sent to

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<v Speaker 2>a court where a judge can come up with a

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<v Speaker 2>treatment plan for them, which is unbelievable. voluntary. Oh, really? Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>These folks who are out on the street and who

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<v Speaker 2>get maybe picked up for something or the local firefighters

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<v Speaker 2>having found, surely you guys just set this, send them

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<v Speaker 2>towards court. Gavin's courts are supposed to have this plan

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<v Speaker 2>and they're going to get better. Problem is it's all voluntary.

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<v Speaker 2>And I guess even this idiot legislature, that's not nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Even this intellectually challenged legislature that we have right now, well,

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<v Speaker 2>calling people names doesn't usually help except it makes you

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<v Speaker 2>feel better. But they had a couple of bills they

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<v Speaker 2>passed through and or got close, and Gavin signed a couple,

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<v Speaker 2>he just did it, to make it easier for one

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<v Speaker 2>of those folks' families to input information to the judge. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a big reform. However, they killed a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>that would have that dealt with conservatorship and when you

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<v Speaker 2>had uh... clear cases that you she had to do

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<v Speaker 2>something with go back to your list you just had

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<v Speaker 2>weakened throw them in the clink or make them get uh...

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<v Speaker 2>certain kinds of help they killed him we can't do

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<v Speaker 2>that to those people it would be taking away their

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<v Speaker 2>right to self something or other and besides and their

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<v Speaker 2>advocates wouldn't have a whole job so john This isn't

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<v Speaker 2>an accident. You're right. They would be violently opposed to it.

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<v Speaker 2>And just hope they don't live like a few years

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<v Speaker 2>ago when there was a homeless fire that was right

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<v Speaker 2>below Brentwood. But, well, they didn't really mean that, so

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<v Speaker 2>we'll fix that somehow. But anyway. I don't live there.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, advice that you've been giving me for many moons

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<v Speaker 1>is do not buy property in the city limits of L.A.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I wish I had that advice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Randy.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's shift gears and talk about the governor's race because

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<v Speaker 1>Javier Becerra is not actively campaigning. He essentially shut his

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<v Speaker 1>campaign down after the primary. In fact, If you go

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<v Speaker 1>to the campaign website, he still has a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>attacks on Tom Steyer that's there and references to the

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<v Speaker 1>primary election and nothing geared towards the general election. He

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<v Speaker 1>has refused just about every interview request that has been

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<v Speaker 1>given to him, including on left-leaning outlets like Pod Save

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<v Speaker 1>America with the Obama Bros. He wouldn't go on that show.

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Hilton did. He would not do it. Same thing

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<v Speaker 1>goes for local TV. Same thing goes for local radio.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's doing cable news. He's in Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Biden's basement, and he's not coming out. The Berkeley poll

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<v Speaker 1>has him up north of 20 points, so it clearly

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<v Speaker 1>is working out for him. I guess his advisors decided

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<v Speaker 1>that he needed to do something, so he did an

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<v Speaker 1>interview with the San Francisco Standard, I believe it was,

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<v Speaker 1>where it was, I guess, supposed to be a jokey

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<v Speaker 1>sort of interview where one of the first questions was

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<v Speaker 1>about 9-11 being an inside job. And then over the

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<v Speaker 1>course of the interview, he revealed that he doesn't know

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<v Speaker 1>who the mayor of San Francisco is. And the pharmaceutical

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<v Speaker 1>company that he sued that started the opioid epidemic, he said, yeah, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>I take campaign contributions from them. Why not? And you go, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is why they don't let this man anywhere near

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<v Speaker 1>a microphone. What do you make of his strategy and

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<v Speaker 1>how pathetic is it that it's going to work?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I can think of two or three different approaches,

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<v Speaker 2>the majority of which actually amuse me. Always remember the

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<v Speaker 2>poor guy obviously has a name that is incredibly difficult

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<v Speaker 2>to pronounce because it started with the president appointing him,

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<v Speaker 2>calling him Javier Baccaria. And I've heard some wild variations

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<v Speaker 2>on that since. But when you have that kind of problem,

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<v Speaker 2>you probably have an inferiority complex and it's showing up.

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<v Speaker 2>I suspect, I almost believe that. What he's doing is

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<v Speaker 2>copying Adam Schiff, that you do whatever works out for

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<v Speaker 2>you in a primary, you get yourself one-on-one with a Republican,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you don't have to do anything because you've won.

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<v Speaker 2>That 60-40 spread, which keeps showing up in virtually every poll,

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<v Speaker 2>is just about what the partisan spread is in the states.

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<v Speaker 2>It has nothing to do with them liking Javier. It

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<v Speaker 2>just has to do with the top of the ticket.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how they vote. In fact, all the way down

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<v Speaker 2>the ticket, that's how they vote. And then we've been

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<v Speaker 2>talking about some of the constituencies they respond to, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's where it is. He doesn't have to do more.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you've ever watched him, I did when he

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<v Speaker 2>was A.G., We never saw him when he was Health

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<v Speaker 2>and Human Services because they paid no attention to him.

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<v Speaker 2>But when he was running in the primary, he performed minimally.

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<v Speaker 2>And when he did, it was to make sure I

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<v Speaker 2>say this, but I'm a little here so I don't

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<v Speaker 2>make anybody mad and I'm going to win. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I may be wrong. I may be being

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<v Speaker 2>totally unfair here. It may be that the numbers are

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<v Speaker 2>such that Javier knows he's going to win and he's

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<v Speaker 2>spending time gathering the appropriate staff, studying the issues so

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<v Speaker 2>that he hits the ground running to be a great governor.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think?

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's going to be a disaster because it's

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<v Speaker 1>like you play golf. If you haven't played golf in

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<v Speaker 1>a long time and then you take the clubs out

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<v Speaker 1>and you go out there on the golf course, you

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<v Speaker 1>embarrass yourself. because a lot of it is muscle memory.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of it is just doing it over and

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<v Speaker 1>over and over again and learning where to put your feet,

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<v Speaker 1>learning where to hit the ball, learning how to follow through,

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<v Speaker 1>where to put your hands on the club. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>easy to forget those things if you haven't done it

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<v Speaker 1>in a while. This guy is not doing interviews. This

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<v Speaker 1>guy is not traveling. This guy is not debating. This

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<v Speaker 1>guy is not doing any of the things that candidates

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<v Speaker 1>typically do. Look at how bad Joe Biden was after

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<v Speaker 1>he spent a year in the basement not doing anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I really do think that his aging process was put on,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, was accelerated because of what happened to

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<v Speaker 1>him during COVID. If you don't do these things on

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<v Speaker 1>a daily basis, you get rusty real fast. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think we're going to end up with a governor who's

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<v Speaker 1>the tin man.

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<v Speaker 2>Two things on that. By the way, I'm absolutely certain

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<v Speaker 2>you're right about Biden. I can't prove it, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>certain you're right. And you could argue that that will

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<v Speaker 2>happen with Javier. The only problem with that thinking is

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<v Speaker 2>it implies that at one point in time he was better.

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<v Speaker 2>Like Joe Biden, I never thought much of him. He

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of a whore. But he was considerably better

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<v Speaker 2>than what he ended up. I'm not at all sure

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<v Speaker 2>Becerra was. But you've got someone, every point I can

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<v Speaker 2>trace him, and I admit to only paying so much

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<v Speaker 2>attention to him, he has gotten ahead on being your

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<v Speaker 2>not particularly offensive Hispanic. Seems like a nice guy, have

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<v Speaker 2>no idea what he is or isn't, but he goes

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<v Speaker 2>out of his way to sort of seem that way.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not sure you're not looking at what he's

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<v Speaker 2>always been. When he was AG, I don't remember him

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<v Speaker 2>doing much of anything other than filing some lawsuits to

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<v Speaker 2>make himself look better. Now, with that, and we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to find out, John, although, man, I don't know how

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<v Speaker 2>you make this work. He becomes governor of California. He

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<v Speaker 2>has a Hispanic surname. He has heavy support in that area.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't tell me he's not going to think, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the one that should be president. If his mind

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<v Speaker 2>is still working, he will see himself as president. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>his problem is he's already got two from the state.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know. Gavin seems to have an urge

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<v Speaker 2>for self-destruction. And as you pointed out, we always have Kamala.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm telling you, that woman is the most annoying

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<v Speaker 2>politician I have ever seen in my life. And she

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<v Speaker 2>annoys other women much more than she annoys you guys. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go back and be somewhat serious. Anyway, if he

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<v Speaker 2>has it, I can see him thinking, well, I should

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<v Speaker 2>be president. At which point, then it'll be fascinating to

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<v Speaker 2>watch what he does. Otherwise, he'll just hang on to

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<v Speaker 2>survive and be happy with the honors in the office.

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<v Speaker 1>Professor Barbara Stone, political science professor at California State University

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<v Speaker 1>at Fullerton. Thanks so much for stopping by. Always fun.

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<v Speaker 2>My pleasure, John. Bye-bye.

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<v Speaker 1>And tomorrow, the newest edition of the Accountability Podcast drops.

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<v Speaker 4>Our weekly tribute to the most useless word in the

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<v Speaker 3>Accountability, accountability, accountability.

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<v Speaker 4>We talked to Daniel Gus from danielgus.substack.com about his plan

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<v Speaker 4>to vote for both Karen Bass and Nithya Raman and

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<v Speaker 1>All right, it's time to open up the California crime blotter.

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<v Speaker 4>It's happened yet again.

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<v Speaker 3>I see. Time for the California crime blotter.

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<v Speaker 1>An influencer got groped at Disneyland.

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<v Speaker 4>How dare they? For more on a video filmed at

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<v Speaker 4>Disneyland that is going viral, here is KTLA.

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<v Speaker 1>Media influencer says that she was groped by a stranger

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<v Speaker 1>while live streaming with friends at Disneyland. KTLA's Gillian Smockler

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<v Speaker 1>shows us how the disturbing incident unfolds on camera and

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<v Speaker 1>how that live.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what you don't see a lot of at

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<v Speaker 4>Disneyland anymore?

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<v Speaker 1>Kids. Maybe it was Donald. You know, he was once

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<v Speaker 1>in the Navy.

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<v Speaker 4>Stream helped lead to an arrest.

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<v Speaker 5>A video from inside Disneyland is now going viral after

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<v Speaker 5>a popular influencer claims a complete stranger touched her inappropriately.

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<v Speaker 5>And now she's speaking exclusively with us about what happened

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<v Speaker 5>and why she refuses to stay silent. It's known as

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<v Speaker 5>the happiest place on earth, but for one woman visiting Disneyland,

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<v Speaker 5>the night took a disturbing turn. Influencer, you at see Castro.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, of course I know her.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't.

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<v Speaker 5>As posing for a picture with friends, when she says

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<v Speaker 5>a man walking behind her touched her inappropriately.

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<v Speaker 4>Is her friend wearing a pregnancy shirt?

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<v Speaker 1>It looks like she's wearing a crop top.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh boy, he went for a scoop.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks like she reacted in the moment, too.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's what makes this special.

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<v Speaker 5>The contact itself is difficult to see clearly on camera.

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<v Speaker 5>But you can see the man pass behind Castro, then

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<v Speaker 5>watch her immediately turn around and confront him.

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<v Speaker 6>I felt it go up and then I just felt

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<v Speaker 6>a finger touch me.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, so gross. Also, there's no kids at Disneyland anymore, apparently.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you can rule out Mickey because I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>Mickey has fingers.

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<v Speaker 7>Very inappropriately.

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<v Speaker 6>My first instinct was to turn around and punch because

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<v Speaker 6>I felt extremely violated.

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<v Speaker 5>Castro says she was shaken and immediately started looking for

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<v Speaker 5>Disney's security. She says security began searching the park and

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<v Speaker 5>her friend's live stream became crucial evidence.

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<v Speaker 4>They couldn't find him, so they made sure to get

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<v Speaker 4>some of his scent and have Pluto follow him around

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<v Speaker 4>the park.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's too bad he wasn't wearing mouse ears that

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<v Speaker 1>had his name on the back. It would be easier

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<v Speaker 1>to identify him.

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<v Speaker 6>I feel like if it would have happened to anybody else,

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<v Speaker 6>they wouldn't have believed them. But because it happened to me,

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<v Speaker 6>I have the footage to kind of show what happened.

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<v Speaker 5>When security initially couldn't find the man, Castro posted his

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<v Speaker 5>picture in the video online.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh boy, she's going to send her fans after him.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, yeah, you don't do that in general, and

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<v Speaker 4>you definitely don't do that at Disneyland.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, do you think he was being a pervert or

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<v Speaker 1>do you think it was incidental contact?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, if you just accidentally brush against somebody as you're

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<v Speaker 4>walking through a very crowded park, yeah, that's possible. But

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<v Speaker 4>she claims that it wasn't just a touch, it was

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<v Speaker 4>a touch and a lift. That guy knew what he

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<v Speaker 4>was doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I could tell you, when I go to these

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<v Speaker 1>theme parks and they're crowded, people are bumping up against you,

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<v Speaker 1>people are touching you, people are trying to get by

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<v Speaker 1>you all the time. And I don't like being touched

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<v Speaker 1>by strangers, which is one of the reasons why if

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<v Speaker 1>I go to a place like that, I don't go

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of summer. You go when it's not

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<v Speaker 1>quite as crowded so that that doesn't happen quite as much.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's the middle of summer. So if she's at

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<v Speaker 1>a theme park when the weather is good and the

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<v Speaker 1>kids are out of school, then it's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>filled with people and you're going to get touched all

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<v Speaker 1>day long.

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<v Speaker 5>15 minutes later, security called.

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<v Speaker 7>She was like, hey, we got him. We found the guy.

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<v Speaker 7>And I was like, no way. I was so happy.

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<v Speaker 5>Disneyland says its security team located the suspect and contacted

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<v Speaker 5>Anaheim police who arrested him for sexual battery.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, this is Orange County. You knew this story was

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<v Speaker 4>going to end in an arrest.

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<v Speaker 5>It was released on a citation with a pending court.

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<v Speaker 4>You want to do this and not get arrested? Go

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<v Speaker 4>to Magic Mountain.

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<v Speaker 1>It's expected there.

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<v Speaker 8>Date.

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<v Speaker 5>Castro says she plans to press charges. Her videos quickly

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<v Speaker 5>went viral, drawing hundreds of comments, including women sharing their

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<v Speaker 5>own experiences and applauding her for speaking out.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought the guy was wrong for doing that.

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<v Speaker 6>She should have been on the girl's side because what

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<v Speaker 6>did that happen to her?

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<v Speaker 1>At a kids park, like where there's family and kids like.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't see any kids. I think the vast majority

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<v Speaker 4>of people that go to Disneyland nowadays are Disney adults.

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<v Speaker 1>Especially if you go at night.

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<v Speaker 4>This is where if you're in Orange County, it's the

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<v Speaker 4>place to be. And you get one of those passes

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<v Speaker 4>and you go every Saturday night. I know my brother

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<v Speaker 4>is one of these people. It's fascinating.

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<v Speaker 1>And apparently inappropriate.

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<v Speaker 7>There's a lot of people just like glance and they're like,

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<v Speaker 7>what was that?

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<v Speaker 6>But I'm really glad she spoke out because like, that's creepy.

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<v Speaker 5>And Castro says that's why she decided to use her

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<v Speaker 5>platform to bring awareness to what she says happened.

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<v Speaker 4>And the fact that the hand was out and then

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<v Speaker 4>it moved backwards. That's not him trying to get through

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<v Speaker 4>a crowd.

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<v Speaker 5>Other women to speak up.

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<v Speaker 7>We're not alone and please speak up. Don't let them

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<v Speaker 7>get away with stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 5>Police tell me they are still not releasing the suspect's

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<v Speaker 5>name at this time. That's because the investigation is still

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<v Speaker 5>active and detectives are still following up with potential witnesses.

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<v Speaker 5>Reporting in Anaheim, I'm Jillian Smuckler, KTLA 5 News.

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<v Speaker 4>There you go, the alleged groping incident at the happiest

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<v Speaker 4>place on earth.

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<v Speaker 1>You're 100% correct, Randy. What jumps out at me after

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<v Speaker 1>listening to these details is that every single person interviewed

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<v Speaker 1>in this story is not only a grown adult, but

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<v Speaker 1>is a grown adult where they're wearing more makeup than

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<v Speaker 1>JonBenét Ramsey.

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<v Speaker 4>And they've got all the merch on. This is why

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<v Speaker 4>Disney is a multi-billion dollar empire. It's not because of

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<v Speaker 4>the kids right now. It's because the people who were

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<v Speaker 4>kids 30 years ago that spend their life savings on

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<v Speaker 4>going to Disneyland every weekend and buying all the merch.

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<v Speaker 1>What do they even charge for a ticket now?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I haven't been in seven years. I

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<v Speaker 4>guess we could find out.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 4>What does Disneyland ticket cost? Disneyland ticket costs. A one day,

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<v Speaker 4>one park can cost between $ 104 to $ 224. And then

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<v Speaker 4>if you want to go to the other park too,

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<v Speaker 4>that's another $ 70 to $ 90.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what I think it is. In the old days,

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<v Speaker 1>what these people would be doing is they would be

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<v Speaker 1>at the beaches, the parks, the libraries. Okay, maybe they

0:28:09.250 --> 0:28:12.090
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have been at the libraries, but You get the idea.

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<v Speaker 1>All of the areas that have been taken over by

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<v Speaker 1>the homeless. And because the homeless have taken everything over,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to be outside during the day and

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<v Speaker 1>not get harassed and be at a place that's safe,

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<v Speaker 1>you go to Disneyland. Because you know that Disneyland's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to allow the homeless in. Disneyland's going to have

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<v Speaker 1>security everywhere. You're going to feel safe the whole time

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<v Speaker 1>you're there. People aren't going to be panhandling around you.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think part of the appeal of places like

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<v Speaker 1>Disneyland is that you know it's a safe space.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, unless you're a groper.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at this.

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<v Speaker 4>The annual pass that doesn't have any blackout dates is $ 1, 900.

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<v Speaker 4>And I know people who buy those things.

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<v Speaker 4>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>It is now time to reopen the California Crime Blotter.

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<v Speaker 3>It's happened yet again.

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<v Speaker 1>It's wild, wild west out here.

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<v Speaker 6>&lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt;.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the California Crime Blotter with John and Randy.

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<v Speaker 1>And this edition takes us to the city by the bay.

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<v Speaker 4>A parking dispute in Sanford, ended up with a prominent

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<v Speaker 4>bar owner grabbing a baseball bat. Uh-oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Batting practice?

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<v Speaker 4>For more on this, we go to KTVU Fox 2.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, Mike.

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<v Speaker 9>And you know Mad Dog in the Fog is one

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<v Speaker 9>of the most popular bars in San Francisco. Certainly one

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<v Speaker 9>of the best known bars.

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<v Speaker 1>In San Francisco. Mad Dog in the Fog?

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<v Speaker 4>Mad Dog in the Fog. I've never heard of Mad

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<v Speaker 4>Dog in the Fog. Where is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds like a morning show on a sports station.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait, is that the morning show on KNBR now? Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>It's in Haight-Ashbury out of Golden Gate Park. Look at that.

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<v Speaker 1>We did a lot of our.

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<v Speaker 9>World Cup coverage right inside this bar right here. Now,

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<v Speaker 9>as you said, the owner behind bars. And today we

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<v Speaker 9>spoke with the man who says that Hackett came after

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<v Speaker 9>him with a baseball bat.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me film you hit my friend.

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<v Speaker 9>Back up more. The incident began Friday with an argument

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<v Speaker 9>over a parking space.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I fully have a theory that I have

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<v Speaker 4>a very different experience of San Francisco because I've never

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<v Speaker 4>had to drive through it or never had to find

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<v Speaker 4>parking through it. I either take a Waymo or Muni

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<v Speaker 4>or I do not. I walk everywhere. If I had

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<v Speaker 4>to drive around and find parking in that city, I

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<v Speaker 4>probably would have a very different feeling of how much

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<v Speaker 4>I love San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 1>So last week we were at the Universal Hilton for

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<v Speaker 1>the Union Rescue Mission event. Parking at that hotel is

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<v Speaker 1>always a nightmare. And I had so much anxiety on

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<v Speaker 1>the drive in. Because I knew there were going to

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<v Speaker 1>be 9,000 cars in 45 parking spaces when I got there.

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<v Speaker 1>And boy, was I right.

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<v Speaker 9>Drew Woods says he works at Further, a clothing store

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<v Speaker 9>just a few doors down from the well-known sports bar

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<v Speaker 9>Mad Dog in the Fog. He said he and bar

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<v Speaker 9>owner Cyril Hackett were both trying to park in the

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<v Speaker 9>same space.

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<v Speaker 10>We got in an argument over a parking dispute, like

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<v Speaker 10>a super petty... No, this is my spot, my spot.

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<v Speaker 10>That argument continued.

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<v Speaker 9>Coworker Wolf captured the interaction on video.

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<v Speaker 8>This is when I filmed the whole.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, come on.

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<v Speaker 4>Hate Ashbury going to hate Ashbury every single time. The

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<v Speaker 4>hippies are still alive and well.

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<v Speaker 8>Situation of. You know, him backing into my friend, and

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<v Speaker 8>I was just essentially telling him to just keep moving.

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<v Speaker 8>And he then hit me with the door a couple times.

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<v Speaker 4>I think there's a leaf in that guy's beard hair.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're right.

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<v Speaker 8>And that's essentially when I stopped the video because it

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<v Speaker 8>got pretty serious.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think it says Cherry Garcia on his birth certificate?

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<v Speaker 4>It's definitely possible.

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<v Speaker 9>Himself parked in that space and he and Wood thought

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<v Speaker 9>the conflict was over. They said eight hours later Hackett

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<v Speaker 9>returned with a baseball bat. They say that portion was

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<v Speaker 9>also captured on camera when they say Hackett slammed a

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<v Speaker 9>bat down on a desk.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh boy.

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<v Speaker 1>Batter up.

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<v Speaker 9>And snatched a jacket off of a rack and then

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<v Speaker 9>left the shop.

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<v Speaker 10>In my head I'm like you're not really gonna hit

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<v Speaker 10>me with a bat you're a business owner. But on

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<v Speaker 10>the other side of that I was like This bull

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<v Speaker 10>might hit me with a bat.

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<v Speaker 4>What is going on? Parking makes people crazy. Sitting in

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<v Speaker 4>traffic makes people crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Looks like that guy was ready to swing for a

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<v Speaker 1>ground rule double.

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<v Speaker 10>I'm saying he's kind of having a moment. He might

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<v Speaker 10>just do something dumb.

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<v Speaker 9>The men said they followed Hackett back out onto the street.

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<v Speaker 9>And Wood said that's when Hackett turned the baseball bat

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<v Speaker 9>on him.

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<v Speaker 10>I'm like trying to get close and get to the merchandise,

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<v Speaker 10>but like dodging his little swings. And then he gets

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<v Speaker 10>me pink right on the side of the knee. Just

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<v Speaker 10>a little quick one enough to make me like, oh,

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<v Speaker 10>it's hard to walk now.

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<v Speaker 4>He had a bunt.

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<v Speaker 9>Wood said he wasn't seriously hurt that he and Wolf

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<v Speaker 9>were able to recover this jacket and block Hackett's video.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold

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<v Speaker 4>on a second. Is that a Luigi Mangione jacket?

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<v Speaker 1>Yep. Okay. My opinion has changed. I'm glad he got

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<v Speaker 1>hit with the bat. And I also kept this comment

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<v Speaker 1>to myself because it was rude, but now I feel

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable saying it. He also looks like he has fetal

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<v Speaker 1>alcohol syndrome.

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<v Speaker 4>This is definitely one of the neighborhoods I don't entertain

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<v Speaker 4>when I'm in San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 9>And block Hackett's vehicle until the police showed up to

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<v Speaker 9>arrest him at about 1.15 Saturday morning. We did go

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<v Speaker 9>inside Mad Dog in the Fog to talk to staff,

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<v Speaker 9>but workers inside said they had no comment. Wood said

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<v Speaker 9>he doesn't think Hackett was intoxicated at the time of

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<v Speaker 9>the incident, and looking back on it all, says he

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<v Speaker 9>doesn't harbor any hard feelings.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really wish.

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<v Speaker 10>harm or anything bad to happen to him. I just

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<v Speaker 10>hope he feels like he understands that was dumb and

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<v Speaker 10>maybe I shouldn't threaten people with bats over parking disputes.

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<v Speaker 9>We spoke with District Attorney Brooke Jenkins today and confirmed

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<v Speaker 9>that Hackett is still in custody facing robbery and assault

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<v Speaker 9>with a deadly weapon charge. The DA said her office

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<v Speaker 9>is reviewing the case and will make an announcement about

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<v Speaker 9>those formal charges later. tomorrow, Mike, so we will be

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<v Speaker 9>following up on this to find out if, in fact,

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<v Speaker 9>Hackett will be facing misdemeanor or felony charges in relation

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<v Speaker 9>to all of this that happened over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm going to do? The next time

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in San Francisco, I'm going to have a drink

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<v Speaker 1>at that bar and I'm going to bring that guy

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<v Speaker 1>a batting glove. I don't know how you look at

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<v Speaker 1>it from Drew Wood, though. Christian, I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you. So there you go. A dispute over a

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<v Speaker 4>parking space turns into a baseball bat attack and hate Ashbury.

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<v Speaker 1>And that idiot is selling a bunch of sweaters with

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<v Speaker 1>Luigi Mangione on it.

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<v Speaker 4>That is a strange, strange, strange vibe.

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<v Speaker 1>He shot an innocent man in the back and then

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<v Speaker 1>he gets all worked up over getting hit in the

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<v Speaker 1>knee with a baseball bat.

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<v Speaker 4>I got to rewind. Look at the hippie. That is a,

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<v Speaker 4>That is straight out of central casting for that street.

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<v Speaker 1>What does he do? He goes to the beauty parlor

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<v Speaker 1>and says, give me the Lisa Bonet.

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<v Speaker 4>This is when they used to call him long hairs.