1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: It's the Ray Appleton Podcast from KMJ and kmjnow dot com. Well, 2 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: here's the voice you haven't heard in a while. 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 2: It's me Clint Olivier, straight from the halls of the 4 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 2: Business Federation of our beautiful Central Valley to the halls 5 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 2: of KMJ. I was happy to get the call today 6 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 2: to fill in for the great Ray Appleton. 7 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: A little bit under the weather, but I know he's listening. 8 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: Hello to you. Ray. 9 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 2: Get back in here tomorrow, but for today, it's just 10 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 2: going to be me and maybe maybe an interesting well 11 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 2: not because I think I'm interesting, but because we're going 12 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 2: to have an interesting conversation. It's a folks, it's all Epstein, 13 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 2: not necessarily this show, although I'm going to turn the 14 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 2: microphone over to you in a bit. But I mean, 15 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 2: that's what everybody is talking about. I think it could probably. 16 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 2: I think it's safe to say that it's not going away, 17 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 2: and it's gonna be the biggest scandal we've ever seen. 18 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: Watergate, Teapot Dome, what was it, Whitewater. 19 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: The Clinton's selling land for some scheme. 20 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: No, I mean, how far back do you want to go? 21 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: The Credit Mobil, a scandal of the grant administration. 22 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: No, this is bad. 23 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 2: It's very, very bad, and I don't think it's gonna 24 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 2: go away. We're gonna talk about that in a bit. 25 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 2: This thing with you watch the news. Savannah Guthrie is 26 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: she the Today Show host on on NBC. She's a 27 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 2: big deal. Her mom is missing. And they're spending a lot. 28 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 2: When I say they, I mean media is spending a 29 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: lot of time on this one. 30 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: It's a it's a who done it? An eighty four 31 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: year old lad? 32 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 2: Just don't they don't get kidnapped for ransom. But I'm 33 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 2: guessing they do now. So we're going to talk about that. 34 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom's got some awful thing moving through Sacramento about 35 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: high speed rail. But there's all kinds of stuff going 36 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 2: on and here in the valley too, not just the big, 37 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 2: big stuff, but the local stuff and the nuanced stuff, 38 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 2: and sometimes we have to get involved. If not involved, 39 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: we're not waiving signs or donating money, but we have 40 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 2: to be aware of some of these nuanced local things, 41 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 2: because let's face it, this is the level of government 42 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 2: where everybody can make a difference. Your city council, your 43 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 2: county board of supervisors. This is where the difference is made. 44 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 2: This is where the change is made. We're not going 45 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 2: to change things the national level, nothing ever changes, But 46 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: in Kern, in Kern County, there's a change coming. And 47 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 2: I want to bring on a guest. I want to 48 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 2: bring on our first guest of the program. His name 49 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 2: is Russell Johnson and he happens to serve as the 50 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: treasurer for Central Valley biz Feed and he's also the 51 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 2: owner of Common Sense Consulting down in Bakersfield. Russell, thanks 52 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 2: a lot for being with us this morning. 53 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 3: Hey Clynn, thanks for having me on. And you know, 54 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 3: I got to say, as a recovering politician like myself, 55 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 3: and as a recovering media guy, man, you've got a 56 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 3: voice for radio. 57 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 2: Well, thank you, a voice and a face for radio Russell, 58 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 2: thank you. And yes, it should be mentioned that Russell 59 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 2: is a former Bakersfield City council member in a city 60 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: where they do it responsibly and I think they make 61 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 2: twelve hundred bucks a year to do the job. And 62 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 2: that's that's about what a city council member should be making. 63 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 2: So hats off to you guys down there in Bakersfield. 64 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 2: But what we're talking about, what you're joining us to 65 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 2: talk about. Is it's a biggie, it's local control and 66 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 2: moving Kern County from being an organization that is basically 67 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 2: I would say, controlled, hemmed in and governed by state 68 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 2: law and making it a charter county, which is local 69 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 2: control instead, and why we need to get behind this. 70 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 2: So what's going on down there? 71 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 3: So let's look at this and take a step back 72 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 3: and examine where we're at right in the valley, not 73 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 3: just current County, but in the valley. It's safe to 74 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 3: say Sacramento has not been good to us. Sacramento's not 75 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 3: been good to us with Sigma. They've not been good 76 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 3: to us with the regulations they're putting on our egg industry, 77 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 3: with the spray that they the spring regulations they came 78 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 3: up with, and the regulations on our on our pesticides 79 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 3: to help us grow crops, the water regulations they throw 80 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 3: down on us, the trucking regulations and make it more 81 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 3: expensive to deliver our fruits and vegetables toup market, the 82 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 3: regulations they've choked out the oil industry in California, where 83 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 3: seventy percent of that's produced in Kerrent County. They're just 84 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 3: and then the assault on business in and of itself. 85 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 3: So we can safely say Sacramento has not been good 86 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 3: to California. 87 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 1: Agreed, and. 88 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 3: The Central Valley and Sacramento's values are not our Central 89 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 3: Valley values. I think we can easily say that. So 90 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:48,119 Speaker 3: current County had an opportunity. Spearheaded by Supervisor David Couch, 91 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 3: he brought up the concept of becoming a charter county. 92 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 3: So at last Tuesday's Board of Supervisors hearing, so not 93 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 3: this week, but last week, they voted unanimously five to zero. 94 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 3: The four Republicans on the board and the one Democrat 95 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 3: on the board voted unanimously to say, we're going to 96 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 3: stick with the rule, we're going to stick with local control, 97 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 3: and we're going to become a charter county. Now, what 98 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 3: they specifically did is they put on the ballot for 99 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 3: the June primary a question for the voters. One do 100 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 3: you want to become a charter county? And two if 101 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 3: you do. The only issue they wrapped up into that 102 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 3: county charter was if there's a vacancy on the Board 103 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:40,679 Speaker 3: of supervisors, how does it get filled? Before Currently today, 104 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 3: if a vacancy occurs on the Board of supervisors, the 105 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 3: governor in any time can appoint to fill that vacancy. 106 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 3: Oh right, We have a situation where Sacramento politicians get 107 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 3: to pick who serves on the current county Board of Supervisors, 108 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 3: which means we get more regulation, we get more choking 109 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 3: of our water, we get more people that want to 110 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 3: do rent control, we get more people that want to 111 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 3: take away our valley values and implement Sacramento values. 112 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 2: Well, we end up with some lackey that the governor 113 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 2: happens to like, but nobody else likes them, knows who 114 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 2: they are, they haven't had to run a campaign, they 115 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 2: may not even be qualified some of these people, and current. 116 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 3: County doesn't get a voice in that process. So what 117 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 3: the current county border supervisors said in a five and 118 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 3: zero vote is they said, look, we're putting for the 119 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 3: borders to the side. Do you want Kerrent County side 120 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 3: who fills our vacant supervisorial seats or do you want Sacramento. 121 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 3: That's the question before voters on June second. And we're 122 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 3: confident that the majority of Kurrent County residents would rather 123 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 3: have Kurrent County set the course. And here's how they'll 124 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,119 Speaker 3: do it. They'll have two options written into the charter, 125 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 3: the current county Border supervisors can appoint the vacancy, or 126 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 3: the current county Border supervisors can call a special election. 127 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 3: And I think in most cases the current county Border 128 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 3: supervisors will call for the special election. And I'll go 129 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 3: back and I'll give you an example from when I 130 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 3: was on the Bakersfield City Council, which is a charter city. 131 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 3: So yeah, and we had an opportunity when Rudy Sallis 132 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 3: got elected to State of Sily to fill a vacancy, 133 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 3: and that body goes to do a special election and 134 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 3: they have a special election to fill that seat, where 135 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 3: Willie Rivera then won that election to become the next 136 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 3: council member for that seat. I have full faith that 137 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 3: the current county Border supervisors in most instances will probably 138 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 3: hold a special election, unless there's a weird circumstance where 139 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 3: there's like maybe three months left in a term and 140 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 3: maybe they appoint for that last three months because they'll 141 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 3: be an election happening soon anyhow, So issues like that, 142 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 3: I would rather trust Kern County. Whether it's a board 143 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 3: of five supervisors who've been vetted by the people, right, 144 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 3: who have a mandated the people to serve or trust 145 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 3: the voters of Kern County over Sacramento. 146 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: Poya every time. 147 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 2: So okay, So the next question is uh and and 148 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 2: just so everyone knows, the the biz FED Advocacy Committee 149 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 2: voted unanimously yesterday yes to support this ballot measure which 150 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 2: is going to be coming forward down in Kern. Uh. 151 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 2: It goes now to the full board for to be ratified. 152 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 2: But never mind that, the question is can this pass? 153 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 2: Will it pass? I mean, are are you going to 154 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 2: be involved with this campaign? Have you done some polling? 155 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 2: And what are the odds that that people are going 156 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 2: to approve or reject it? 157 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 3: So a great question, clink. I think this is for one, 158 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 3: it's too new. It just got put voted on last week. 159 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 3: Hasn't even been assigned an initiative letter. So in Kern 160 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 3: County typically when we have initiatives, they'll be like major K, 161 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 3: major L major X y Z. Right, we don't even 162 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 3: have a letter yet. That probably will not occur until 163 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 3: some time around March first to March sixth, so we 164 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:28,359 Speaker 3: expect that to happen at that date. I am organizing 165 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 3: the local coalition on behalf of some of my clients 166 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 3: and behalf of a pack that I have called Common 167 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 3: since Kerr County, which is a small donor local pack 168 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 3: which advocates on local issues, and we're going to be 169 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 3: heavily involved in raising money for this county charter. We're 170 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 3: walking hand in hand with the Board of Supervisors that 171 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 3: voted five zero to put this on the ballot, Supervisor Couch. 172 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 3: We'll be working closely with him, who's the one who 173 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 3: was really pushing this, to make sure that we get 174 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 3: home rule and that Kern County gets to decide who 175 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 3: represents current county and not Sacramento politicians. 176 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 2: Is there a website or is there anything yet? I 177 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 2: realize that you're on this thing's hot off the presses 178 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 2: and you've come on Camja to talk about it right 179 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 2: off the presses. Is there any infrastructure up yet where 180 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,959 Speaker 2: people can get information or do you want to come 181 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 2: back in a few weeks and tell us once it 182 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 2: all gets ready? 183 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's way too early for all that we're in 184 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 3: the infrastructure development stage. This wasn't even an item that 185 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 3: was going to be on the ballot until last Tuesday, 186 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 3: So I think in about a couple of weeks we'll 187 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 3: have a website where folks can help support this effort, 188 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 3: and they can help support home rule, they can help 189 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 3: support our local egg industry, they can help support our 190 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 3: support our local jobs, and they can ensure that local 191 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 3: people get a local voice and who represents us on 192 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 3: the current county boarder supervisors. So I would love to 193 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 3: come back in a couple of weeks, share that information 194 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 3: and be able to help spread this message because it's 195 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 3: going to take huge education effort because a lot of 196 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 3: people don't understand what a charter county is and what 197 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 3: it can do. I mean, think about it from this perspective. 198 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 3: If people might not even know that the governor gets 199 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 3: to a point in a vacancy, right, and if people 200 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 3: don't even understand that, how are they going to understand 201 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 3: that this needs to occur. So there's gonna be huge 202 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 3: education effort that's going to go along with this. But 203 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 3: we're confident that most people would rather have a current county, 204 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 3: current county folks deciding who gets to represent them, as 205 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 3: opposed to Sacramento politicians deciding who gets to represent kurrent 206 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 3: county at the on the border Supervisors. 207 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 2: Well, Russell, I'll tell you I've known you and worked 208 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 2: with you for many years and it's you're preaching to 209 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 2: the converted here and we appreciate it and obviously with 210 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 2: biz FED will help you get the word out. Russell Johnson, 211 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 2: owner of Common Sense Consulting, former Bakersfield City Council member. 212 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 2: He's involved in a lot of stuff and he's always 213 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 2: on the right side. So Russell, thanks a lot for 214 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 2: joining us this afternoon. 215 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 3: Clan, thanks for the time. 216 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 2: All right, that was Russell Johnson coming up. On the 217 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 2: other side of this, we're gonna get into it. I've 218 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 2: been dying to talk about it. It's not a happy topic, 219 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 2: but let's do it. On the other side of this, 220 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 2: it's Clint Infrarey on News Talk five eighty one oh 221 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 2: five nine KMJ