Speaker 1: He's fair most of that time. He's biased back at
Speaker 1: John LUNNDD fair and biased only on the Sports Leader.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for hanging out with us today
Speaker 2: and all week long. Before we jump out to the
Speaker 2: patio with Deep Pop and with John Diggotson, just real quick,
Speaker 2: I want to thank everybody for the week. I'm want
Speaker 2: to be one hundred percent transparent and true. When I
Speaker 2: walked in here on Monday, I'm like, I don't know
Speaker 2: what the hell this is gonna be. I don't know
Speaker 2: how people are gonna receive me, the show, everything that's
Speaker 2: been going on. But you've been absolutely amazing. It's been
Speaker 2: a ton of fun this week. I think they're gonna
Speaker 2: have me back next week. That'd be great.
Speaker 3: We'll see.
Speaker 2: Maybe this is a week to week progress now. I'm
Speaker 2: just kidding. We're gonna be back for a long time.
Speaker 2: But Tim is amazing. I've known Tim for a long time.
Speaker 2: It made it a lot easier to come back. It
Speaker 2: is so much fun. I know the circumstances a little
Speaker 2: bit strange, but I've just had a great time with
Speaker 2: you this week.
Speaker 3: It's been absolutely awesome.
Speaker 2: I appreciate everybody being really really cool and We're just
Speaker 2: gonna have more and more fun as everything gets going on.
Speaker 3: So thank you, thank you, thank you. I can't thank
Speaker 3: you enough.
Speaker 2: The Golden State Lumber and Showroom text line A bunch
Speaker 2: of people showing.
Speaker 3: A lot of love out there.
Speaker 2: Last one from the nine two five Appreciate Amanda in Concord,
Speaker 2: love having John back, middays are great again, and love
Speaker 2: hearing Tim with regularity. You two are awesome together. So uh,
Speaker 2: you don't just have to show with love, you can
Speaker 2: shows hate as well. But I really appreciate that that
Speaker 2: has been kind of the prevailing opinion this week. And
Speaker 2: we've had a lot of fun and we'll just get
Speaker 2: better and better and better. But I appreciate you taking
Speaker 2: me into your warm, warm embrace this week. It has
Speaker 2: been absolutely great and I am very appreciative.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 3: Having said those things, Hello, boys, what's going on?
Speaker 5: Would you say your week to week like Nick Bosa
Speaker 5: and his niece and Ninus John?
Speaker 2: Yes, And I'm probably a better bet to be back
Speaker 2: sooner than him, no, I.
Speaker 5: Would think, so yeah. So yeah, Tim's talking on the show.
Speaker 5: I really love that. You need to get him doing
Speaker 5: more trivia on your show too, you know. He hosts
Speaker 5: Trivia at the Bitter End here to Cisco.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Coach told me about that. You guys are
Speaker 3: doing a bit with.
Speaker 5: Him, right, we were until we were told not to.
Speaker 3: Why what happened?
Speaker 1: You know what?
Speaker 5: Bordops talking on the air.
Speaker 4: Everybody loves talking to Tim. Just don't do too much. Geez.
Speaker 4: You're like do it.
Speaker 3: Then you're like, yeah, we got banned for doing it.
Speaker 5: Yeah exactly.
Speaker 3: But you're telling me to do banded things. That's all right,
Speaker 3: that's not so big.
Speaker 5: Do well. They'll I mean, you're new, so though, they'll
Speaker 5: definitely give you more of a grace period.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. I haven't been called new in a
Speaker 2: long time. I like this whole new thing, very young, new, vibrant.
Speaker 5: Have you finally figured out all your HR stuff and
Speaker 5: the oh.
Speaker 2: My god stuff? Yeah, it was unbelievable, just one guy.
Speaker 2: I got to give it up to Josh Shephard. Like
Speaker 2: a million people are like, try this, try this, try this,
Speaker 2: try this, And he took like two seconds. He's like
Speaker 2: the Michael Jordan and it was like I was in.
Speaker 2: But then the problem was when I popped in, it
Speaker 2: goes you have nineteen things to do and that was like,
Speaker 2: you've got to be.
Speaker 3: Kidding me, and so I yeah, it was great.
Speaker 4: Those are the days.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was awesome. I did readid the paperwork. I
Speaker 2: will not sexually harass. I will not you know, I'm
Speaker 2: all good. Everything's good.
Speaker 6: Wait until they start to send you the phishing emails again.
Speaker 5: Now, maybe I'm just dumb, but those you and they
Speaker 5: do they test you and then if you open it
Speaker 5: then you have to take the course again. Right, But
Speaker 5: they're pretty convincing. What didn't you say?
Speaker 6: Yeah, it'll be like it'll be like an email from
Speaker 6: like your boss.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it'll be like.
Speaker 5: My dot holder and he's like I need to talk
Speaker 5: to you. Well okay them and you click on it, they're.
Speaker 6: Like, ah, more trading.
Speaker 5: And then you're like, oh and Mike, see Mike Holder's
Speaker 5: official email is Michael dot Holder. That's how we caught you.
Speaker 2: You know. What they do too, is and then through
Speaker 2: technology used to be able to just skip to the
Speaker 2: to the back of it, because the thing is like,
Speaker 2: come on, like a third grader, a drunk third grader
Speaker 2: could answer these questions.
Speaker 3: But not that I was ever a drunk third grader.
Speaker 2: But you know, but but then you can't go past
Speaker 2: them anymore. Like you try to go past the video
Speaker 2: and it's like no, no, no, no, no, no, you
Speaker 2: have to watch the whole thing. No no, man, it
Speaker 2: was terrible. Yeah, so you're sitting there for thirty minutes.
Speaker 2: What if Bob did this too? And I'm like, oh god,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 5: I just host a radio show.
Speaker 2: Damn it, I'm gonna harass anybody. The only people are
Speaker 2: gonna we're gonna have ask each other. Plus, by the way,
Speaker 2: you guys are down there, but this is like, this
Speaker 2: is like nobody's here on Friday. There is like d
Speaker 2: goes down on Friday round like nobody who's got it
Speaker 2: better than us?
Speaker 3: Nobody.
Speaker 5: There's no corporate America on Fridays. Now, nobody shows up
Speaker 5: to work.
Speaker 3: There's like no one in this building.
Speaker 2: Me and Tim are sitting there going this is actually
Speaker 2: pretty cool, you know, like Danny's gonna come in for
Speaker 2: you guys and be like he's gonna be man, he
Speaker 2: could have a party in here.
Speaker 3: It's amazing.
Speaker 5: Oh he will.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Really starts about Wednesday at about four o'clock.
Speaker 2: It's like, all right, what are you what are you
Speaker 2: boys doing down there? Already busting out bloodies or I
Speaker 2: p A's or well, what's going on?
Speaker 5: Oh that'll that'll come a time when the actual fifty
Speaker 5: eight social opens up at four o'clock. But now we'll
Speaker 5: be talking Niners and we're previewing this great matchup John
Speaker 5: Rocky's and Giants tonight house.
Speaker 6: We're not we're not doing that. We're not doing that.
Speaker 6: If we're doing that, I'm going home like that's that.
Speaker 6: We are not We're not doing that.
Speaker 3: It looks like more solo radio coming up next, y
Speaker 3: you and.
Speaker 5: A solo for four hours.
Speaker 6: Come join me in Walnut Creek to fifty Yeah, we
Speaker 6: did that earlier this week.
Speaker 3: It was nice. It was very very nice.
Speaker 6: All right, Jaron, we'll be talking Giants and rock Yes,
Speaker 6: Jd'll be holding corn.
Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you, And.
Speaker 3: I know where JD goes. So it's nice. It's a
Speaker 3: good time had by all.
Speaker 2: All right, boys, have a great time this afternoon, and
Speaker 2: we'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 5: Sounds good, man, all right, we'll talk to.
Speaker 3: Those boys on Monday.
Speaker 2: Hey, go out there, man, beautiful day, beautiful bar, you know,
Speaker 2: beautiful ball park. I was saying earlier this week Wednesday,
Speaker 2: we just had a great time out there. So check
Speaker 2: it out. Yeah, the ball is the Rockies and the Giants.
Speaker 2: But I'll tell you, man, it is a great time
Speaker 2: at the old Yard.
Speaker 3: So hang out with the boys.
Speaker 2: Like I said before, now I know we got a
Speaker 2: run because we're already running into their show.
Speaker 3: But Tim, thank you, thank you, thank you man.
Speaker 2: You're one of my best and it was awesome working
Speaker 2: with you and everybody else. Thank you for the great
Speaker 2: welcome this week. It has been absolutely great. We'll continue
Speaker 2: on Fair and Bias Radio ten to two weekdays only
Speaker 2: here on the Sports Leader. Dirty work is next, Okay,
Speaker 2: the fun So.
Speaker 5: They've done the dirty work of the radio business. Anybody
Speaker 5: messes this thing up to me tonight, it's true engineering
Speaker 5: for it, operating and producing.
Speaker 3: Not only are you fired, your life is over.
Speaker 5: And now they have the microphone.
Speaker 6: What could go wrong?
Speaker 5: Nobody messes up, understand me. Don't mess up. Adam Copeland,
Speaker 5: you wanted some sort of like hard hitting Bob Lee journalism.
Speaker 3: He came to the wrong place.
Speaker 5: Derek Papa, Oh boy, okay, Feeling it's it's a dirty job,
Speaker 5: but someone's got to do it. Ridiculous, completely ridiculous. Welcome
Speaker 5: to Dirty Work.
Speaker 4: K and B R one O four, five and six
Speaker 4: eighty the Sports Leader.
Speaker 5: Oh how's it going? Dirty? Work Live from the patio
Speaker 5: fifty eight social Rockies and Giants tonight. But I don't
Speaker 5: want Jad to leave me too soon, so we'll be
Speaker 5: talking forty nine Ers football preseason Action Football is back.
Speaker 5: We'll be joined today by Marcus Thompson at three fifty,
Speaker 5: Richard Really at four fifty, and Larry Krueger to break
Speaker 5: down some tape at five thirty. But I'm always always
Speaker 5: delighted to be joined by my old friend. You can
Speaker 5: hear him on dubzot and forty Nineers pre im post
Speaker 5: Big Game Bound Boots on the Ground, John Dickinson, it's
Speaker 5: going on, man, it's.
Speaker 6: Going on, Derek. Always good to be with you, Always
Speaker 6: fun to be out here on the patio. And it
Speaker 6: is Landing Roupe and Kyle Freeland tonight. Oh yeah, seven fifteen.
Speaker 6: I will mention that, but that's pretty much where it
Speaker 6: starts and stops as it relates to the Giants and
Speaker 6: Rockies big series. This series this weekend will determine the
Speaker 6: season series between these two. I think it's five to five, yes,
Speaker 6: with three games to go here, so can they get
Speaker 6: a sweep. Is this a series where they can sweep?
Speaker 6: Can they just win the season series as the Rockies?
Speaker 6: Baby steps, baby steps, because they've lost to a three
Speaker 6: series to the Rockies, both of the series at at
Speaker 6: Corsfield about a month ago. They took three out of
Speaker 6: four here against the Rockies. So look, I got the breakdown,
Speaker 6: even though we're not going to delve too much it here.
Speaker 6: And some big news around here though today that I
Speaker 6: do think we should acknowledge, which is incredibly cool. And
Speaker 6: that's the news about the twenty twenty eight MLB All
Speaker 6: Star Game, which is going to be back here at
Speaker 6: Oracle Park and what will be the first time in
Speaker 6: a shorter period of time than it usually takes to
Speaker 6: get an All Star Game back twenty one years between
Speaker 6: two thousand and seven and twenty twenty eight, when the
Speaker 6: Midsummer Classic is right back here.
Speaker 5: I remember well, I attended it with my father, my
Speaker 5: little brother, and Ichiro Suzuki was MVP inside the park
Speaker 5: home run and I want to say Vladimir Guerrero won
Speaker 5: the home run derby the night before.
Speaker 4: He was an underwhelming home run derby. Yeah it was
Speaker 4: if I.
Speaker 5: Remember when he saw Prince Fielder I don't think he
Speaker 5: had one home run.
Speaker 6: Yeah, everybody was thinking about all the lefty bats, the
Speaker 6: lefty bats, McCovey, cove and everybody got a taste of
Speaker 6: how difficult it is as a left handed hit to
Speaker 6: actually pump him out of here, unless you're going right
Speaker 6: down the line and up onto the arcade and in
Speaker 6: the bay that way. And so it was the right
Speaker 6: handed hitters, if memory serves. And I didn't cover the
Speaker 6: home run derby. I actually did cover the All Star
Speaker 6: Game itself, so I was here at third and King
Speaker 6: back then. I think it was July to tenth, if
Speaker 6: memory serves, of two thousand and seven, And yeah, it
Speaker 6: was a spectacular night and it showed off this this
Speaker 6: beautiful ballpark, which hard to believe how long this place
Speaker 6: has been here now twenty twenty six and opening in
Speaker 6: two thousand and it was in its infancy.
Speaker 4: Go back to seven.
Speaker 6: That was Bruce Bochie's first year as the Giants manager.
Speaker 6: It was Barry bonds last year playing in the major
Speaker 6: leagues and with the Giants, and Tim Linsecam had just
Speaker 6: come up a couple of months prior to that All
Speaker 6: Star Game. So time flies, my goodness. But because of
Speaker 6: the Olympics in LA and the prospect of major league
Speaker 6: players being able to play potentially in the Olympics.
Speaker 4: They wanted the All.
Speaker 6: Star Game not to beat in LA, but be close
Speaker 6: enough to LA as they try to sort through the
Speaker 6: scheduling there. So put the Giants back toward the front
Speaker 6: of the line, maybe a little bit sooner than you
Speaker 6: usually would be in the rotation, and the All Star
Speaker 6: Games coming back, very very cool.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's good to have it back. And we'll see
Speaker 5: if Bryce Aldridge could be in the home run derby.
Speaker 5: That's a conversation for twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 4: He'd be in the game.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah that too, twenty twelve, see when the Giants
Speaker 5: are raut in two years. But let's look about another
Speaker 5: up and coming maybe potential star. We'll see for the
Speaker 5: forty nine ers. I mean, just before we get to
Speaker 5: that Dejeun stribling. Great performance last night, But what do
Speaker 5: I feel like going back to Levi's yesterday JD and watching.
Speaker 4: Some ball it was pre season. He yeah, I'm not
Speaker 4: gonnallow with ease.
Speaker 6: It's a tease joking with the guys that Todd Husach
Speaker 6: and Cope's last night on the postgame hit on the show,
Speaker 6: and I said to him, at what point did you
Speaker 6: I think I used the term what point did your
Speaker 6: eyes glaze over? Because it happens for everybody. Yeah, you're
Speaker 6: so excited. I know you're watching the game at home.
Speaker 6: You're so excited for football to be back. And there
Speaker 6: were a handful of games on that that first night
Speaker 6: of preseason last night, all across the league, and the
Speaker 6: Niners obviously here locally highlighting everything. But you get excited
Speaker 6: because football's back, those first couple of days of training camp,
Speaker 6: and then you're like, all right, all right, when did
Speaker 6: the real game start? And then you get excited when
Speaker 6: the actual games start because it it even if it
Speaker 6: is a glorified scrimmage and none of it matters, and
Speaker 6: it's hard to extrapolate what does matter and all of that.
Speaker 4: It's football.
Speaker 6: But there comes a point in that first game where
Speaker 6: you just kind of glaze over and it's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 6: this is preseason football for me. It happened when Curtis
Speaker 6: Rourke had to come out of the game with the
Speaker 6: rib but yeah, he was impressive, and yeah, Dejon Stribbling
Speaker 6: was extremely impressive.
Speaker 4: So I got about a quarter in before.
Speaker 6: It was you know, trying to trying to keep yourself,
Speaker 6: you know, tape your eyes, tape your eyes open.
Speaker 5: Would say. For me, it was the second half. But
Speaker 5: I was watching intently, you know me growing up with
Speaker 5: my pops, I watched the ins and out of a broadcast.
Speaker 5: I want to see every little detail. But I was
Speaker 5: watching intently because we had our guy, you know, literally,
Speaker 5: Guy Haberman on with us the other day saying that
Speaker 5: he was gonna drop a little nugget that we told him.
Speaker 5: Are you aware of the mascot? The Tennessee Titans have
Speaker 5: JD Iraq a raccoon. Wait, t what t Rack? Not
Speaker 5: t Rock? No, not not t Rock, t Rack. The
Speaker 5: rack stands or stands for raccoon. So they were gonna
Speaker 5: have a side by side with Tim Ryan and you know,
Speaker 5: t Rock and t Rack, and unfortunately never got to
Speaker 5: on the broadcast last night. So I text a guy,
Speaker 5: I was very disappointed.
Speaker 4: Is that a real thing? I'm trying to Oh, it
Speaker 4: is a real thing.
Speaker 5: Oh t Rack he got a makeover too when they
Speaker 5: were supposed to do on the broadcast last night and
Speaker 5: they didn't get to it.
Speaker 4: There he is Iraq and t Rock.
Speaker 5: So I was most disappointed in that. I was also
Speaker 5: a little disappointed. You and I are both bald men.
Speaker 5: I'm watching the post game, NZU. Neil has hair, Now,
Speaker 5: what's the deal with that.
Speaker 4: Well, I think he's always had hair.
Speaker 6: I don't know about it. Even if you and I
Speaker 6: have hair, well, yeah we do. We could, we could
Speaker 6: grow it out. It's not necessarily gonna be pretty.
Speaker 4: But I do.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've been advised not.
Speaker 4: To do that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I went preemptive strike about fifteen years ago.
Speaker 4: All right, not not happening. We'll just we'll just own
Speaker 4: the look.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but Lorenzo and Neil must have got close with
Speaker 5: Dion's guy. He's got hair now Lebron's guy or Lebron's
Speaker 5: guy too. So those are my disappoint the biggest disappointments
Speaker 5: of last night. But we'll talk about what went down
Speaker 5: last night at Levi's forty nine Ers lose the game,
Speaker 5: but that is a matter. It's all about Dejean Stribbling,
Speaker 5: it's all about Grayson Holton, it's all about Jaden Duggar.
Speaker 5: It's about the rookies that were showcased last night. So
Speaker 5: we'll talk about that. And I want to hear from
Speaker 5: you guys four one five eight oh way five six
Speaker 5: two seven four and five eight oway kmb are Let's
Speaker 5: know what you thought last night. Are you feeling more
Speaker 5: confident in the receiving cores after what you saw from
Speaker 5: Dejean stribbling? It's dirty work. John Dickinson Derek Papa on
Speaker 5: The Sports.
Speaker 1: Leader, Let's get back to dirty work with Copes and
Speaker 1: d Pop live from fifty eight Social at Oracle Park
Speaker 1: before Tonight's Giants game on be sports Leader.
Speaker 2: Third and five, Malik Turner out to the left, Watkins
Speaker 2: slot left, shribbling out to the right or looking right
Speaker 2: and looking down field for.
Speaker 4: Stribling, turns it just and brings it in on the
Speaker 4: right sideline. What a catch.
Speaker 5: That is a catch all.
Speaker 4: The way to the thirty one yard line at Tennessee.
Speaker 4: That was pretty.
Speaker 5: Dejan shribbling was the story of the game last night.
Speaker 5: Dirty Work at the patio of fifty eight Social. Derek Papa,
Speaker 5: No out of Copeland today or Monday. John Dickinson with
Speaker 5: me for the next two shows. Reacting to last night
Speaker 5: with the forty nine ers in their first game action
Speaker 5: of the season, outcome doesn't matter. Whatever they lost to
Speaker 5: the Tennessee Titans. But in the end, Dejean Shribbling with
Speaker 5: a fantastic performance in my opinion, seven catches for sixty
Speaker 5: three yards. Just heard the highlight of him along the
Speaker 5: sideline and go him against Flout one of the better corners.
Speaker 5: Tennessee went out and got him in the offseason, coming
Speaker 5: from the Giants, and of course a lot was made
Speaker 5: of him being selected in the second round the forty
Speaker 5: nine ers wanting to pass on two selections in the
Speaker 5: first round, going from twenty seven, then trading down once
Speaker 5: again getting to Jean Shribbling in the second round. A
Speaker 5: lot came out afterwards, Adam Schefter saying a lot of
Speaker 5: teams wanted him. The Rams were interested, the Colts are interested,
Speaker 5: And honestly, JD watched him last night. He reminded me
Speaker 5: of Juwan Jennings. At times he reminded me of Deebo Samuel.
Speaker 5: And you know, when they lost Ricky Pearsall, I wondered
Speaker 5: where this wide receiving corps was going to go. They
Speaker 5: got Deebo Samuel back, but if he's there, I honestly
Speaker 5: like they need more youth when it comes to the
Speaker 5: receiving corps. I liked what I saw last night.
Speaker 6: I did too, and I saw a little Michael Crabtree
Speaker 6: yeah in there as well, the old number number fifteen
Speaker 6: for the forty nine ers before Juwan Jennings, and look,
Speaker 6: they need him.
Speaker 4: That that's the number one thing.
Speaker 6: And when you're talking leading up to the game as
Speaker 6: to what are you looking for and what do you
Speaker 6: hope to see, really, with all of the guys that
Speaker 6: we knew weren't going to be playing for the forty
Speaker 6: nine ers among the headliners, it became very quickly you
Speaker 6: want to see Dejon stribbling because he has, in the
Speaker 6: practices in which he's been healthy, flashed and you want
Speaker 6: to see if that could translate to game action, and
Speaker 6: it absolutely did. So it's rare that the one guy
Speaker 6: you're the most excited to see actually delivers in a
Speaker 6: manner that backs up in many ways your wildest expectations
Speaker 6: for the type of player that he could be. But
Speaker 6: I think given the nature of where that position group
Speaker 6: stands right now, with Mike Evans, great but a little
Speaker 6: bit older and already kind of banged up at practice
Speaker 6: in the early blocks here, with Deebo Samuel needing to
Speaker 6: be reacquired, because of Ricky Pearsall going down for the
Speaker 6: year and still Jordan Watkins and Jacob Cowing either being
Speaker 6: banged up or underwhelming. You're kind of wondering how you
Speaker 6: piece together and Christian kirknot in the mix right now,
Speaker 6: how you piece together a wide receiver group, And really,
Speaker 6: Stribbling's ability to be a contributor immediately has gone from
Speaker 6: I think a luxury to a necessity. So you want
Speaker 6: to see him show a path toward being able to
Speaker 6: be an impactful player immediately, and I think we saw
Speaker 6: that path start last night.
Speaker 4: Oh we did.
Speaker 5: From the jump. The first play from scrimmage, he catches
Speaker 5: a pass, you know, a six yard out. I mean,
Speaker 5: obviously the play along the sideline was beautiful against flout.
Speaker 5: Also the play on third and six where he bounces
Speaker 5: off a defender. You thought maybe he stepped the bounds there.
Speaker 6: But truck the dude, Yeah, truck trucked him and got
Speaker 6: the yards he needed to pick up the first down.
Speaker 5: No, I mean, he looks big and physical, and that's
Speaker 5: what you need when you're playing for Kyle Shanahan. He
Speaker 5: wants guys. The slogan always is no block, no rocks,
Speaker 5: So he's gonna do that. He's gonna mess with DB's
Speaker 5: out there. You know, when they drafted him, I was like,
Speaker 5: I don't know who this guy is, honestly, but then
Speaker 5: I remembered, okay, old miss the playoff game, he had
Speaker 5: a big performance. I want to say, yeah against Georgia.
Speaker 5: He was unbelievable in that. Also Miami the next week,
Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean a lot was made of his
Speaker 5: selection did they reach Honestly, if he just fits in
Speaker 5: Kyle Shanahan's scheme, he'll be all right. If he just
Speaker 5: fits the Juwan Jennings role, or as you said, Michael Krabtree,
Speaker 5: there's moments like last night he dropped a pass over
Speaker 5: the middle on third down, he got tackled in the
Speaker 5: backfield on a jet sweep, So you know they'll be
Speaker 5: growing pains. I don't want to say he's going to
Speaker 5: be this great wide receiver, but if he can fill
Speaker 5: the void of Ricky Piersoll where I know people are
Speaker 5: down on Ricky Piersol. They don't know what he's going
Speaker 5: to be. Obviously a lot of injuries, but I thought
Speaker 5: he brought something different to the offense, a younger wide
Speaker 5: receiver that get off man coverage, so he's not gonna
Speaker 5: be here, all right, who's the guy that could step up?
Speaker 5: That's a younger player, Like, can't just have Mike Evans
Speaker 5: at thirty years old or Deebo Samuel at thirty years old,
Speaker 5: or Christian Kirk at thirty years old. You need a younger,
Speaker 5: physical wide receiver. And he brought that last night.
Speaker 6: Well, they don't have a two unless Stribbling is going
Speaker 6: to be the two. You want Deebo to be jack
Speaker 6: of all trades and doing a lot of different things
Speaker 6: within the offense. You don't want Diebo to be your
Speaker 6: number two wide receiver, right, You don't want that. You
Speaker 6: want somebody that steps in and is your two. And
Speaker 6: I think Ricky Piersoll, if everything had gone perfectly with
Speaker 6: the health, would have probably been that guy. I think
Speaker 6: Christian Kirk, if everything was on point with his health,
Speaker 6: he'd probably be the three. And it would take some
Speaker 6: of the pressure off of Scribbling early to where it's
Speaker 6: not as if he has to come in and make
Speaker 6: an impact. You mentioned the drop, but it was a
Speaker 6: bad drop, but he was targeted eight times and had
Speaker 6: seven catches, And yeah, maybe the jet sweep action isn't
Speaker 6: exactly gonna be his forte.
Speaker 4: We'll see.
Speaker 6: And you're trying things out to see how it looks,
Speaker 6: and maybe you're putting something on tape that somebody's gonna
Speaker 6: see later and think about and you're not really intending
Speaker 6: on doing that, or you're just again testing out to
Speaker 6: see if it can work. So time will tell on
Speaker 6: all of that. But he made some tough catches. You know,
Speaker 6: the separation maybe wasn't there at the level that you
Speaker 6: would think at least coming in. But what I don't
Speaker 6: even really care about that he got the ball in
Speaker 6: some tight windows. He took it away from the defender
Speaker 6: that the strong hands, oh yeah, And he showed a
Speaker 6: little something to him. He showed he's got a little
Speaker 6: ish to him to knock a dude away and pick
Speaker 6: up the yardage necessary. And I also think, you know,
Speaker 6: playing with Curtis Rourke is and he looked good last
Speaker 6: night by the way, before the ribs, So you give
Speaker 6: him a nod. But I think we're not fully going
Speaker 6: to see the yak ability and tell stribblings out there
Speaker 6: with everybody. And the timing of the offense is such
Speaker 6: to where balls are hit in stride to him and
Speaker 6: he has the ability to take off with them, because
Speaker 6: I think that's something that's sort of another element of
Speaker 6: this thing that we really didn't get a chance to
Speaker 6: see last night.
Speaker 5: Let's hear from the young wide receiver. Here's a Sean
Speaker 5: Strimbling last night talking about that play he made along
Speaker 5: the sideline.
Speaker 7: Take us that toad tapping catch at the sidelines put around.
Speaker 5: Yeah, just having a little sideline awareness as seeing where
Speaker 5: I'm at and just trying to turn back inside to
Speaker 5: get the extra and just do what I can.
Speaker 4: Did you know you were in bound the whole time?
Speaker 5: I feel like I was.
Speaker 4: I mean, that was my intention. So I'm glad the
Speaker 4: call was baw.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think he just we'll see about
Speaker 5: the speed. I think last night he just showed his
Speaker 5: physicality and yeah, I was impressed. Now let's see what
Speaker 5: happens here. Like they're gonna carry six wide receivers, and
Speaker 5: if anything, what I came in with last night is okay,
Speaker 5: Jacob Cowing, I don't think he's making this this football
Speaker 5: team in the end, because right now you have to say,
Speaker 5: obviously it's gonna be Mike Evans, Deebo, Samuel de Jean, Stribbling,
Speaker 5: we'll see. I mean, Christian Kirk, they picked up what
Speaker 5: one year, twelve million, so it could be where he's
Speaker 5: you know, a guy that adds to their depth as
Speaker 5: far as wide receivers. DeMarcus Robinson also, and I like
Speaker 5: what I saw in Jordan Watkins last night. Six catches
Speaker 5: for fifty nine yards, so they got options as far
Speaker 5: as wide receiver. We'll see if he's out there week one,
Speaker 5: because usually Kyle's hard on wide receivers. We saw it
Speaker 5: in the past with all the guys they selected, Danny
Speaker 5: Gray or Ronnie Bell, guys that didn't pan out, Deebo
Speaker 5: Samuel and Brendan Ayuk, you know, being impact, impactful players
Speaker 5: in their rookie years. But I'm anticipating de Zoon Shrible
Speaker 5: is going to be that guy this year.
Speaker 6: Stribbling needs to be out there, like I don't think
Speaker 6: it's at least it shouldn't be a question of is
Speaker 6: he going to be out there week one? Like he
Speaker 6: needs to be out there week one. Now Watkins may
Speaker 6: not be, and you know for Cowing and others. I
Speaker 6: mean it's the old adage you can't make the club
Speaker 6: sitting in the tub, right and you know if unfortunately
Speaker 6: the cowing has been unavailable too frequently here in his
Speaker 6: time in the NFL, and so yeah, I think Watkins
Speaker 6: clearly ahead of him at this point. DeMarcus Robinson's had
Speaker 6: a nice training camp to this point, but I think
Speaker 6: you know what DeMarcus Robinson is in the NFL. Maybe
Speaker 6: he went from somebody that was fringe is he going
Speaker 6: to make the team or not to feeling pretty firmly
Speaker 6: he's going to make the team at this point, especially
Speaker 6: with Christian Kirk banged up, and you just need guys
Speaker 6: that have the ability to be trusted on an NFL field,
Speaker 6: and Robinson I think you would trust at that level
Speaker 6: as you would Rus Mike Evans, as you addrust Deebo
Speaker 6: Samuel in his role, and Christian Kirk if Christian Kirk
Speaker 6: can get himself healthy. But all of those guys are
Speaker 6: big time veteran players. You need some infusion of youth.
Speaker 6: And again, not somebody that steps in as the four
Speaker 6: or the five, but somebody that can step in really
Speaker 6: is the two at this point because in a perfect world,
Speaker 6: you'd rather, I think, have DeMarcus Robinson be a three.
Speaker 6: You'd rather have Deebo be more of a three to
Speaker 6: four somebody that's going to take some snaps away from
Speaker 6: Christian McCaffrey in the backfield a little bit. And so
Speaker 6: I think Stribling's ability to prove that he belongs, and look,
Speaker 6: it is one preseason game, yep, but his ability to
Speaker 6: prove he belongs, I think is going to be important
Speaker 6: toward determining just what the ceiling for this forty nine
Speaker 6: Ers team actually can be at the beginning of the year.
Speaker 5: Four one five eight oh way five six two seven
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Speaker 5: Dickinson reacting to the forty nine ers first game action
Speaker 5: of the twenty twenty sixth season. Dejeun stribbling his seven
Speaker 5: catches for sixty three yards stands out. Give us a
Speaker 5: call today, four one, five, eighth, way five six, two seven.
Speaker 5: If you want to talk about last night's performance, Jady,
Speaker 5: we could bounce around to different guys that stood out,
Speaker 5: But besides dejan Stribbling, what stood out to you last night?
Speaker 4: Rourke?
Speaker 6: Curtis Rourke. I mean before he went out with the
Speaker 6: rib injury. You look at his line, I mean really
Speaker 6: comfortable in a twelve or fourteen after the red shirt year,
Speaker 6: essentially last year where he was coming off of the
Speaker 6: knee injury, and I think they activated his practice window
Speaker 6: the final three, not the final three, but late in
Speaker 6: the year for three weeks and then decided not to
Speaker 6: put him on the active roster. So I thought, I
Speaker 6: thought he looked good in the times that I've watched
Speaker 6: him throw, whether it was last year when he was
Speaker 6: coming back towards the end of the year and at
Speaker 6: the reps that he did get in some of the
Speaker 6: practices this year. I thought he was clearly ahead of
Speaker 6: Adrian Martinez if you were of the belief that that
Speaker 6: was going to be a battle. I was never really
Speaker 6: of the belief that that was a real battle. No,
Speaker 6: like Rourke was somebody I think they really like and
Speaker 6: want to bring along as a three that eventually could
Speaker 6: maybe be a two, you know at some point. So
Speaker 6: Rourke stood out impressively before the rib injury and then
Speaker 6: you know the other part of that. But he didn't
Speaker 6: play so well to where I'm thinking trade Mac Jones.
Speaker 6: I saw a little bit of that. I saw a
Speaker 6: little bit of that.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no, You're not going down that road there.
Speaker 6: But he played really well to where you think, hey,
Speaker 6: the forty nine ers may have something here in terms
Speaker 6: of a third string quarterback full stop. For me, at
Speaker 6: that point, it's not oh, can he be the two
Speaker 6: and you trade Mac? Or do you want to look
Speaker 6: to trade him? Now that's where the whole it's one
Speaker 6: preseason game comes in comes in for me. But I
Speaker 6: guess we can start with Rourke. There were some others
Speaker 6: on the defensive side of the ball that impressed as well.
Speaker 5: No, I mean Curtis Rourke. We've been talking about him
Speaker 5: for a while now when they drafted him in the
Speaker 5: seventh round. And what's amazing about him is his season
Speaker 5: in Indiana. I think he played most of the season
Speaker 5: with the torn as now twenty nine touchdown passes, five interceptions.
Speaker 5: He's been put out ice obviously dealing with the injury.
Speaker 5: But he looked good last night. His mobility, he got
Speaker 5: dinged up while he was running around, had the rib injury,
Speaker 5: and we'll see if he plays next week. They may
Speaker 5: have to bring another quarterback. But I'm not going crazy here.
Speaker 5: They know sports talk rad of the next day and
Speaker 5: being like, we don't need mac Jones. You need mac Jones.
Speaker 5: You need mac Jones and Les there's a significant injury
Speaker 5: in the NFL. We were like, all right, are you
Speaker 5: desperate enough to have us a second round pick for
Speaker 5: mac Jones. We could probably do a deal here, but
Speaker 5: then again, you want the best backup quarterback situation all
Speaker 5: the football. I'm keeping Mac Jones. But it looked promising
Speaker 5: with Curtis work last night.
Speaker 6: It really did, and impressively, so so I think that's
Speaker 6: that's a good thing to come out of a preseason game.
Speaker 6: Not obviously the injury, but he looked extremely comfortable. You
Speaker 6: can't have the delay of game down until when it's
Speaker 6: first in goal up the war.
Speaker 5: He scored when he did the not not the QB sneak,
Speaker 5: but he was rushing in there.
Speaker 4: I did not.
Speaker 6: I did not, But yeah, I think it was close there.
Speaker 6: And then again obviously you can't have the you can't
Speaker 6: have the delay of game now I can't.
Speaker 4: And the look at the bleeping clock.
Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly from Kyle Shanahan coming out of that.
Speaker 4: But yeah, he was impressive.
Speaker 6: Grayson Halton, Yes, what was I think the most impressive
Speaker 6: defensive player to my eye?
Speaker 5: Oh, I would agree, think I would agree. I mean
Speaker 5: from the jump on that first defensive drug he tackles
Speaker 5: Tony Pollard and then he had a sack that was
Speaker 5: nullified by defensive holding on Jacob Robinson. But yeah, I
Speaker 5: mean him coming out of Oklahoma. You know, there was
Speaker 5: the whole conversation about Vitaveya. Should the forty nine ers
Speaker 5: make a move for him? And I think they need
Speaker 5: pass rush. Now they have young guys as far as
Speaker 5: their inside defensive tackles. They got Alfred Collins, they got CJ. West. CJ.
Speaker 5: West was kind of a similar position as you know
Speaker 5: Grayson Holton where he flashed in a couple of preseason
Speaker 5: games last year, Alfred Collins kind of slowed to a
Speaker 5: velop It wasn't until that Rams game on Thursday night
Speaker 5: where he had the force fumble and the stop. So
Speaker 5: I think that I'm not saying like, well, okay, you
Speaker 5: don't need to make a move, but you know, I
Speaker 5: want to see what these defensive tackles have. Of course
Speaker 5: they make the move for Osa Diggi Zua as well,
Speaker 5: but I like where I saw in Grayson Holton last night.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I don't think that stops you from making
Speaker 5: another move. But so far, I was really impressed with
Speaker 5: what he did last night.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that forty nine ers have a lot
Speaker 6: of talent on the defensive side of the ball that
Speaker 6: you just don't know exactly how they're going to use
Speaker 6: or what roles these guys are going to have. There's
Speaker 6: talent there. Is it talent that can step into some
Speaker 6: of these spots immediately or is it talent that's going
Speaker 6: to take a little bit of time to develop that
Speaker 6: sort of thing. And yeah, I think outside pass rush
Speaker 6: is still especially with Nick bos Out, that the biggest concern.
Speaker 6: And I think odiggi'zoo on the interior is.
Speaker 4: Going to be really good.
Speaker 6: We'll see how many you know how often they go
Speaker 6: five man front and scheme things up in that respect,
Speaker 6: But Alfred Collins, CJ. West, Grayson Halton, Sebastian Valdez, like,
Speaker 6: there's some talent there at a bunch of different levels. Right,
Speaker 6: guys were taken in Collin's case in the second round,
Speaker 6: or West and Halton who were fourth rounders.
Speaker 4: Valdez was what was he think? Seventh?
Speaker 6: He was, Yeah, I think a seventh rounder in twenty
Speaker 6: twenty five. So you look at those guys on the
Speaker 6: interior and I think I thought James Thompson was was
Speaker 6: solid yep as well. Uh and and and so maybe
Speaker 6: there's a little more depth there immediately than meets the eye.
Speaker 6: And I think that's something that that could be a
Speaker 6: positive sign.
Speaker 5: No, definitely, I think that the biggest need they have
Speaker 5: right now is pass rush. We talked about it all
Speaker 5: last year where passed rush outside pass rush like there.
Speaker 5: Hopefully Nick Bosa is available for Week one, and I
Speaker 5: I'm not saying I'm confident in that, but I believe
Speaker 5: Kyle when he says I don't think it's a big
Speaker 5: concern right now. But anytime a you know, your veteran
Speaker 5: pass rusher that's coming off an ACL tear, and he's
Speaker 5: done this three times in his career, it's a little concerning.
Speaker 5: But also don't want to rely on him for the
Speaker 5: bulk of sacks like Romelo Height as a third round
Speaker 5: draft pick. I'm sorry, but that's a lot to ask
Speaker 5: of a rookie last night or of this season. And
Speaker 5: last night he got flagged off the first play from
Speaker 5: scrimmage illegal use of hands. So you know, we'll see
Speaker 5: as he develops through preseason here, but now they need
Speaker 5: more and we don't know when Mike Keil Williams is
Speaker 5: coming back from that torn ACL. He's a guy also
Speaker 5: that's not a traditional pass rusher when you saw him
Speaker 5: when he was playing in college. You can move around
Speaker 5: that defensive line. He could be a three technique too,
Speaker 5: where you put him inside opposite Osa di Gizua on
Speaker 5: passing down. So I've been saying it for the last
Speaker 5: couple of weeks with Copes. I think it's gonna happen
Speaker 5: eventually here, and they've been talking to Juey Bosa, but
Speaker 5: I don't even know if he wants to play football.
Speaker 5: They need to add another veteran pass rusher, whether that's
Speaker 5: Von Miller, who knows Raheem Morris back in the day
Speaker 5: with the Rams. But I'm I'm anticipating they make a
Speaker 5: move because they cannot go into the season with this
Speaker 5: defensive line current link, the way it's constructed.
Speaker 6: How concerned are you about where things stand with Bosa
Speaker 6: at this point, because I think it's becoming more and
Speaker 6: more concerning. And we've heard through the years, We've learned
Speaker 6: I should probably say through the years that just because
Speaker 6: a team will downplay an injury, yeah, doesn't mean at
Speaker 6: some point it becomes more significant. And I really am
Speaker 6: I feel like we could maybe not, but we could
Speaker 6: be going down that road again a little bit with
Speaker 6: some of the concern let's say about where post is at.
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, I hear you. Like it was kind
Speaker 5: of downplayed two years ago with Christian McCaffrey where he
Speaker 5: had the bilateral knee tendonitis and or sorry kill senoninis
Speaker 5: or which one was it? It was achilles? It was, yeah,
Speaker 5: and you know, Kyle kind of downplayed that. Then it
Speaker 5: became significant and he missed most of that season. Then
Speaker 5: he came back with the you know, the Bills game
Speaker 5: and towards PCL. I mean, as I said, anything with
Speaker 5: Nick Bosa and that knee, it's concerning, especially when you
Speaker 5: know he's been He's been injured throughout his career, going
Speaker 5: back to his days with the Ohio State coming into
Speaker 5: the league. So I just hope he's there week one.
Speaker 5: If it's where he misses all of training camps, so
Speaker 5: be it.
Speaker 6: But they yeah, and I totally agree on that they
Speaker 6: need him though, and even with him, I think you
Speaker 6: could make the case that they're a little bit short
Speaker 6: of what you would want on the outside pass rush
Speaker 6: with him in the fold. If you're saying he's going
Speaker 6: to be limited come week one, able to play but
Speaker 6: not himself or in and out of the lineup. As
Speaker 6: this thing continues to progress throughout the course of let's
Speaker 6: say the first third of the season, then you got
Speaker 6: a major problem. I feel like on the outside and
Speaker 6: you're really gonna have to scheme it up in an
Speaker 6: attempt to just get by, And I think that in
Speaker 6: turn leads leaves you vulnerable in other areas.
Speaker 5: Oh no, absolutely, it's a lot of pressure runnering heat
Speaker 5: Moore is coming over and Robert Sala was, you know,
Speaker 5: a miracle worker last year, just having you know, that
Speaker 5: defense at times play well for the most part, like
Speaker 5: that Chicago Bears game, it was NFL blitz. You score,
Speaker 5: I score. But it needs to change this year. And
Speaker 5: you know, getting Romelo Hight, yes, he was a good
Speaker 5: player with Texas Tech playing off of David Bailey, but
Speaker 5: I don't want to rely on him for your pass
Speaker 5: rush and year one, I want him to be, you know,
Speaker 5: a guy that's situational. If he's your starter, I don't
Speaker 5: know if I love that. We could see him more
Speaker 5: through preseason here, but I mean you're kind of limited
Speaker 5: on what the moves you can make. And I'm sure
Speaker 5: John will make a move of the trade deadline if
Speaker 5: they're in that position. But they are pass rushers that
Speaker 5: are available. I keep bringing to Von Miller. He's an
Speaker 5: older player at thirty seven years old, but we saw
Speaker 5: it all last year. You know, they're playing bad offenses
Speaker 5: in the Houston Texans and C. J. Shroud just able
Speaker 5: to stand in the pocket all day long and dump
Speaker 5: the ball off on third down. You can't have that
Speaker 5: where you're going up against the Rams and Seahawks, in
Speaker 5: that division.
Speaker 6: Other guys that stood out for me on the defensive side,
Speaker 6: and I know we're up against it a little bit here,
Speaker 6: but it was Jade and Dugger. Yeah, Jayden Dugger I
Speaker 6: thought played really well. And look, when you have a
Speaker 6: lot of your regulars that aren't going to be out there,
Speaker 6: there's opportunities for others to step up and step in.
Speaker 6: And I mean to see Jade and Dugger be trusted
Speaker 6: with the veterans not out there to be a starter,
Speaker 6: I thought was telling considering that the training camp that
Speaker 6: he's had to this point.
Speaker 5: No, I agree with you on that one. I mean
Speaker 5: Jid and Dugger. Some people didn't like the drafts election there.
Speaker 5: But I brought this up the other day with Ted Winn.
Speaker 5: Would have came to with the athletic like the forty
Speaker 5: nine ers, do they have a guy that could stop
Speaker 5: thirteen personnel like people are so fixated on, Well, could
Speaker 5: Phu Kannakuwa be out week one with a suspension? Okay?
Speaker 5: But the forty nine ers got killed with the Rams
Speaker 5: tight ends. Do they have a guy that's currently on
Speaker 5: their team that could cover those those types of players
Speaker 5: like the Seahawks have that Anika and Nika Iman Warri.
Speaker 5: But do the Niners have that guy? And so far
Speaker 5: I keep hearing that Jana Douger could be that guy.
Speaker 5: Impressive last night sackings cam Ward on a scramble. But yeah,
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Speaker 5: from fifty eight Social talking forty nine ers football. I
Speaker 5: gotta steal something from our guy Greg Silver with his
Speaker 5: two words Football's back. It feels good. It's not real football,
Speaker 5: like I get it, Like last night was a tease,
Speaker 5: but it's just good to have like games on you.
Speaker 5: Like you're watching Sports Center, there's highlights you can see
Speaker 5: what Frando Mendoz is doing and Jeremiah loves it. Not
Speaker 5: the real thing, but could have a little bit of
Speaker 5: football last night.
Speaker 4: It felt good. It did.
Speaker 6: And then do you realize how far away you still are?
Speaker 6: And it's what twenty seven days, I guess at this
Speaker 6: point now until the gosh opener for the forty nine ers.
Speaker 4: A little under four weeks. We're inside the four week
Speaker 4: plateau now, but yeah, we still got a waste to go.
Speaker 5: Well, we'll take any football we can get. We're reacting
Speaker 5: to last night, a little taste of football. Let's go
Speaker 5: to the phone lines talking about the forty nine ers.
Speaker 5: Let's go out to Sonjay and San Jose talking about
Speaker 5: the forty nine ers run defense, Anja, you're on with
Speaker 5: Deep Pop and JD. What's going on?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 8: Hey, can you hear me? Deepop?
Speaker 5: I got you, man.
Speaker 8: Hey. First of all, I wanted to give a shout
Speaker 8: out to your dad total Passaca pro and uh, you know,
Speaker 8: listen to him since I was a little kid, and
Speaker 8: I'm gonna miss not hear him for a while. Hopefully
Speaker 8: he'll be doing play. But I played one of the
Speaker 8: best to ever do it. And considering this area, that's
Speaker 8: saying a whole lot and I know there's a whole
Speaker 8: lot of folks listening on. You know, I feel the
Speaker 8: same way as I do. We give them our love.
Speaker 5: No well, man, And I appreciate you saying that, sound Jay,
Speaker 5: I appreciate that, man, Thank you.
Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah. And so the other thing is, you know,
Speaker 8: I was at the game last night and I was
Speaker 8: going to the first pre season games, uh, and I
Speaker 8: like what I saw for the most part. But the
Speaker 8: one thing I didn't like is a run defense, and
Speaker 8: it wasn't all that great. And it's not like the
Speaker 8: Titans have you know, brand name running backs, and something
Speaker 8: was missing. Telfing was definitely missing with regards to the
Speaker 8: pass rush. You know, Romola, I can get there. I
Speaker 8: like what you said about him. It's too much to
Speaker 8: expect in a rookie year with a different type of
Speaker 8: a bee to manage all the expectations. But hey, what
Speaker 8: about the run defense. You know that that's if that's
Speaker 8: a level of run defense we're going to see, we're
Speaker 8: going to have a tough season now.
Speaker 5: And I appreciate the calls on Jay. The thing is,
Speaker 5: you're not going to see those players like it was
Speaker 5: the second string or third string for the forty nine ers,
Speaker 5: he four.
Speaker 6: And fifty seven will help there exactly exactly, And Osa
Speaker 6: Tiki Zoo was not out there either, So I'm not
Speaker 6: going to go crazy.
Speaker 5: And I know what play you're talking about. It was
Speaker 5: where no one could wrap up on Taj Spears for
Speaker 5: that twenty five yard run. We saw a lot of
Speaker 5: that last year. But also Fred Warner wasn't there and
Speaker 5: Drake Greenlaw was in Denver. So it was the Tennessee starters,
Speaker 5: which I mean, if you're a Tennessee fan, I don't
Speaker 5: know what you think of that offense. They kind of
Speaker 5: moved the ball a little bit on that opening or
Speaker 5: that one drive where they went like ninety five yards,
Speaker 5: But I wasn't impressed with cam Ward at all really,
Speaker 5: So yeah, I'm not gonna go crazy over that just
Speaker 5: because we didn't see the main guys with the forty
Speaker 5: nine ers out there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there are some that said there are some question
Speaker 6: marks up front, in particular, I believe in terms of
Speaker 6: the run defense, and Osa Digizua is going to be
Speaker 6: there to help that, but a lot of it is
Speaker 6: also going to be on Alfred Collins yep. And I
Speaker 6: thought you know, Alfred Collins is somebody that you need
Speaker 6: to start having the conversation more consistently about how much
Speaker 6: he's dominating than how underwhelming he is, right, And I
Speaker 6: feel like there's still a little of both, right. It's
Speaker 6: he kind of goes from you see what he can
Speaker 6: bring to the table when he's right with the size
Speaker 6: and everything, but then you can also see him get
Speaker 6: pushed around from time to time. And I think that's
Speaker 6: the part where you know, you start looking at some
Speaker 6: of the guys that are behind him on the depth chart,
Speaker 6: other younger guys like a Halton, like a West, like
Speaker 6: even a Valdez. I mentioned James Thompson Junior. Yeah, last
Speaker 6: night who had You know, those guys all have the dog.
Speaker 6: Those guys all have the dog. Right, at times Collins
Speaker 6: has the dog, but at times he doesn't. And I
Speaker 6: think that's the one thing, in addition to obviously health,
Speaker 6: that you want to see a little bit more consistency
Speaker 6: from him because where he was picked, he's brought in
Speaker 6: to be a major part of a front that's expected
Speaker 6: to be dominant.
Speaker 5: No, and he should be. I mean I remember watching
Speaker 5: him at Texas and very impressive player, got injured during
Speaker 5: training camp last year and kind of slow process.
Speaker 4: CJ.
Speaker 5: West. I want to say it was more impressive during preseason,
Speaker 5: but yeah he found times to you know, turning on
Speaker 5: there was the Rams game on Thursday night football. Yeah,
Speaker 5: but like it needs to be as to your point, JD.
Speaker 5: He needs to be more consistent and that's where they
Speaker 5: have depth. They have young guys, but are they good
Speaker 5: enough where like we're going to compare the forty nine
Speaker 5: ers to you know, the teams there division and it's
Speaker 5: gonna be tough, but it's where these guys need to
Speaker 5: step up. It's where you want to see growth from
Speaker 5: Nick Martin and Tata Bethune and guys from last year
Speaker 5: up to in stout what he did at the nickel positions.
Speaker 5: So yeah, can these guys take the next step where
Speaker 5: it's not growing pains anymore. It's okay, they're established NFL players.
Speaker 5: I want to hear this sound from Kyle Shanahan last
Speaker 5: night where he was talking about what he saw from
Speaker 5: Curtis Rourke and you know everything with his Actually I've
Speaker 5: go to the hospital last night to get his ribs check.
Speaker 5: So this is Shanahan talking about the performance of one
Speaker 5: of his backup quarterbacks last night.
Speaker 7: I'm not sure you know that they said ribs. He
Speaker 7: was struggling to breeze. They took him to the hospital
Speaker 7: just to check on everything, make sure it's all right.
Speaker 7: X rays in here didn't show it was broken or anything.
Speaker 7: But we'll see how we find out tomorrow.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I mean, you know, obviously, I think it's
Speaker 5: pretty clear Adrian Martinez is not one of the backup options.
Speaker 5: Like I remember last year, there were so many times
Speaker 5: where obviously brock Perdy was out and Mac Jones was
Speaker 5: dealing with an injury and he wasn't taking snaps for
Speaker 5: the majority of the week. Could it be Adrian Martinez
Speaker 5: who plays on Sundays? And I never believed that. I
Speaker 5: thought it was always where Kyle likes him as a
Speaker 5: Scout Scout Team quarterback. But I think that he probably
Speaker 5: will not make the team. I think that from what
Speaker 5: you saw last night, Curtis Works should be the guy
Speaker 5: as far as the third string quarterback. But yeah, I
Speaker 5: think that maybe the latter quarterback this week, and Adrian
Speaker 5: Martinez will probably get the bulk of the snaps and
Speaker 5: we'll see the other guy is. But yeah, I don't
Speaker 5: think they're going to be going forward with Adrian Martinez
Speaker 5: az a quarterback for this team.
Speaker 6: No, I think, like we talked about earlier, Rourke with
Speaker 6: somebody that is he was winning the battle if there
Speaker 6: was a battle, And I don't really think there is
Speaker 6: a battle.
Speaker 4: There isn't a battle.
Speaker 6: Yeah, depending ab on who you talked to, I really
Speaker 6: don't think there is a battle.
Speaker 5: No, not at all. And then here's Shanahan on what
Speaker 5: he saw from Deshaun Strimmling last night, how physical he
Speaker 5: was there in his first NFL game.
Speaker 7: It seemed good. I mean, we'll see when I watched
Speaker 7: the film, I thought he struggled a little bit on
Speaker 7: that on the first drive, but I think he got
Speaker 7: three drives after that, and it seemed like, yeah, secued
Speaker 7: all the stuff that went to him, and I liked
Speaker 7: those handsloped out there and played physical.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I mean, and as I said before, Kyle's hard on
Speaker 5: wide receivers. You know, we talked about the wide receivers
Speaker 5: that couldn't cut it in the past. But he did
Speaker 5: look good. He's not gonna overly praise him in his
Speaker 5: first game action, but yeah, and you know, I saw
Speaker 5: some people last night saying like wrap him in bubble
Speaker 5: wrap the rest of the preseason. No, I want to
Speaker 5: see him play more. I want to see him play
Speaker 5: against the Chargers. I want to see him against the Raiders.
Speaker 5: So you know it's I I think he's going to
Speaker 5: be there week one. Obviously, I think that they got
Speaker 5: depth there. But yeah, I I as advertised, or he
Speaker 5: played as advertised last night, She say, Dejean stribbling with
Speaker 5: his six catches for sixty three yards some catches.
Speaker 4: I'm pretty close to putting him in bubble wrap, are you?
Speaker 4: I really am?
Speaker 6: I mean I want to see him a little bit
Speaker 6: with Brock Purdy, And it does sound like Brock Perdy
Speaker 6: is going to play at some point here, whether it's
Speaker 6: in LA or in Vegas against the Raiders, and and
Speaker 6: Purdy does like to get out there, and Shanahan likes
Speaker 6: to get his guys out there.
Speaker 4: So we'll see.
Speaker 6: But I I'm I'm not full blown bubble wrap shut
Speaker 6: him down, but I'm pretty close. Like there is a
Speaker 6: point at which, let's say, if Perdy plays a couple
Speaker 6: of series in LA and they look pretty good together,
Speaker 6: that I would I'd shut it down at that point.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think that you don't need to
Speaker 5: play him for a good deal of time, like last
Speaker 5: night was only twenty two snaps. But yeah, I want
Speaker 5: to see him out there a little bit. Yeah, like
Speaker 5: Tim Ryan was saying on the broadcast last night, you
Speaker 5: could see brock Purtty next week, but I want to
Speaker 5: see him have like a series or two. I just
Speaker 5: don't want to where all right, he had one good
Speaker 5: performance of the preseason, so he shut down the remainder.
Speaker 5: Now I want to see him play a little bit.
Speaker 6: Yeah, i'd i'd play him a little bit, But I
Speaker 6: think we're heading down that path again. You know, if
Speaker 6: Perdy's out there, you get him out there, let them
Speaker 6: sort of get in rhythm with things, and then move
Speaker 6: forward maybe in the final game not having anybody out there, right,
Speaker 6: you know, I just again, you want to make sure
Speaker 6: that you have your best guys available to you right
Speaker 6: at the beginning of the season.
Speaker 5: So were you you at the joint practice earlier this
Speaker 5: week against so out of that look, I mean, like,
Speaker 5: obviously I think Kyle puts more stock into the joint
Speaker 5: practice as opposed to game. You know, the game last night.
Speaker 5: So in comparison, how did the forty nine ers look
Speaker 5: just a couple of days ago when they were going
Speaker 5: up against Robert Solid Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 4: Yeah Solid.
Speaker 6: Uh, you know, obviously more reps for the for the
Speaker 6: main guys that than you saw in the game on
Speaker 6: Thursday night. I mean it's been ups and downs, I
Speaker 6: think for the most part throughout the entirety of training
Speaker 6: camp there, I mean, brock Perties looked really good. I
Speaker 6: think overall, that's been one thing that that stands out.
Speaker 6: I think this is his best training.
Speaker 4: Camp to date.
Speaker 6: Okay, and you know what does that mean when the
Speaker 6: regular season comes? Maybe maybe nothing. He's obviously put up
Speaker 6: some big time numbers in his time with the forty
Speaker 6: nine ers. As as their starting quarterback, I mean, Stribbling
Speaker 6: has been the guy that we saw last night in
Speaker 6: training camp as well.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 6: The big thing that stood out two is just the
Speaker 6: feistiness of the of the defense in the back and
Speaker 6: forth and you know, some of the skirmishes, especially early
Speaker 6: on in that practice. Not a lot of grand takeaways
Speaker 6: I would say from the joint practice. But look, I
Speaker 6: think I think the forty nine ers are a really
Speaker 6: talented team in a lot of areas, but they do
Speaker 6: have some pretty obvious concerns on the defensive side, I
Speaker 6: think it's upfront. I think on the offensive side, it
Speaker 6: continues to be the offensive line, which at times can struggle,
Speaker 6: and they're trying to figure out what's going to happen
Speaker 6: at left guard.
Speaker 4: So I think it's a lot of.
Speaker 6: The things that we're used to seeing be problems for
Speaker 6: the forty nine ers that potentially the potentially could be again,
Speaker 6: especially if they run into some health issues.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I mean, you and I were doing shows right before
Speaker 5: free agency, and we talked about what happened against the
Speaker 5: Seahawks losing forty one to six, and can they address
Speaker 5: you know, the offensive line or speedier wide receivers, And yeah,
Speaker 5: they had a good off season getting Mike Evans and
Speaker 5: Osadigi Zua and we'll see about Jean Stribbling and all
Speaker 5: these guys they drafted. But do you think they really
Speaker 5: address anything this offseason? You're like, Okay, now they're in
Speaker 5: the same conversation as those teams, or now I feel
Speaker 5: better about those matchups.
Speaker 6: I agree with what Kyle Shanahan said a couple of
Speaker 6: days ago, which is that he believes on paper that
Speaker 6: this team coming into training camp is better than last
Speaker 6: year's team coming into training camp. So I think that
Speaker 6: in and of itself is you moved a little bit
Speaker 6: closer to at least Seattle because Seattle's lost guys they
Speaker 6: have and against Seattle unfortunately, and I may be a
Speaker 6: part of this deal, but they do in many ways
Speaker 6: feel like one of the more disrespected or underappreciated champions
Speaker 6: in recent time.
Speaker 4: I mean, they do, even as talented as I.
Speaker 6: Believe they are, have a little bit of a one
Speaker 6: hit wonder vibe to me until proven otherwise, which I'm
Speaker 6: not even sure that's fair, but it's just how I feel.
Speaker 5: As far as going back to back or just like
Speaker 5: a team that could totally just not make the playoffs.
Speaker 6: I mean, I think they could totally not make the playoffs,
Speaker 6: really could but be ten and seven or I don't
Speaker 6: think they're going to be bad, yeah, but I do
Speaker 6: think they could be in a position where they are
Speaker 6: where they are the team that has to win their
Speaker 6: last game to make the playoffs, and maybe they do,
Speaker 6: maybe they don't, or maybe they get into a weird
Speaker 6: tiebreaker where they have the wrong tiebreaker ten and seven
Speaker 6: and somebody, you know, the Lions or another team winds
Speaker 6: up taking their spot. So I or it comes down
Speaker 6: to maybe the Niners in them and there's a tiebreaker
Speaker 6: if they split the season series, division record, somebody slips
Speaker 6: up or common opponent, whatever it is. Like, I just
Speaker 6: don't think Seattle is at a point where they're just
Speaker 6: made to like they're a made team, you know, a
Speaker 6: bunch of made dudes that are just going to be
Speaker 6: in the playoffs.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think they're gonna have to earn it,
Speaker 5: of course in a lot of ways, of course, but
Speaker 5: I you know, I hear the talk of the offseason
Speaker 5: they lost some guys, but honestly, I.
Speaker 4: Think we may have chosen the right guys to lose.
Speaker 5: Yes, Jerry and Price might be an upgrade over Kenneth Walker.
Speaker 5: He was very like people don't talk about him enough
Speaker 5: where he was in the backfield witch Eeramia love a
Speaker 5: notre dame now he was he was.
Speaker 4: I just, I mean, an upgrade over Kenneth Walker, though, I.
Speaker 5: Mean, I so far, maybe I'm the prison I'm in
Speaker 5: the prisoner of the moment just watching them on a
Speaker 5: hard Knox, But I think that he's a physical runner.
Speaker 6: I think that he fits that scheme perfectly for that
Speaker 6: I don't disagree with with any of that. And look,
Speaker 6: I'm not if you'd say JD were picking teams to
Speaker 6: make the playoffs, right, I probably picked Seattle, but I'm
Speaker 6: looking at if you're just going through the divisions. Yeah,
Speaker 6: it's I mean the Rams are in the conversation, the
Speaker 6: Niners in the conversation. Seattle's definitely in the conversation. I'm
Speaker 6: not saying they're not. So that's three. I think I
Speaker 6: think Green Bay's in the conversation. The Bears are in
Speaker 6: the conversation, the Lions are in the conversation. Yeah, that's
Speaker 6: six right there. I think Minnesota believes they're in the conversation.
Speaker 6: I mean they ended up nine to eight, right, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: they ended up nine.
Speaker 5: They in his third over the lines. I slept him
Speaker 5: last year.
Speaker 6: They end up nine and eight last year. And yeah,
Speaker 6: so that's seven teams that are that are in it.
Speaker 6: I think Philly and Dallas are in it. Right, That's
Speaker 6: that's nine teams, and maybe it's only one team in
Speaker 6: the South, but so there, so there's ten teams and
Speaker 6: maybe you take the South out of it. So there's
Speaker 6: nine teams right there for six spots. Yeah, so there's
Speaker 6: gonna and even if you want to say Minnesota may
Speaker 6: not make the cut as opposed to some of these
Speaker 6: other teams. All right, then it's eight teams for six spots.
Speaker 6: So that means there's gonna be two really good teams
Speaker 6: that wind up on the outside looking in. Could Seattle
Speaker 6: be one of those two teams? Yeah, I think they could.
Speaker 6: Could the forty nine Ers, Yeah, I think they could,
Speaker 6: depending upon the tie breakers and how things shake out.
Speaker 6: Maybe in some of those head to head games with
Speaker 6: Dallas with uh Philadelphia late late in the season. Yeah,
Speaker 6: that that could ultimately ultimately determine determine their faith Now.
Speaker 5: And I mean I totally get like, Okay, maybe the
Speaker 5: Seahawks take a step back with some of the guys
Speaker 5: they lost, even like you know, their offensive play calling
Speaker 5: with Clint Kubiak leaving, But the Seahawks still look from
Speaker 5: the forty nine Ers, their tight ends coach Brian Fleury
Speaker 5: comes over as the offensive coordinator, so.
Speaker 6: Well, step back is still to me ten and seven,
Speaker 6: like step back is they might have stend on thirteen
Speaker 6: and four.
Speaker 5: I see like the Seahawks and Rams battling it out
Speaker 5: to the last week of the regular season, where both
Speaker 5: of them could be fourteen and three or thirteen and four.
Speaker 5: I like what the Seahawks are doing. They're flying under
Speaker 5: the radar right now. They're probably the most disrespected defending
Speaker 5: champion for a long time now.
Speaker 6: All fair and again, I'm part of it. I'm admitting
Speaker 6: that I'm part of that disrespect. Although I do think
Speaker 6: they are a good team. I just think their margin
Speaker 6: for error is a little greater than people think. No, definitely,
Speaker 6: and they had everything really go right last year that
Speaker 6: set them up to win the final game of the
Speaker 6: year at Levi's to get the one seed. And we've
Speaker 6: seen it in their history when they get the one
Speaker 6: seed in that stadium, they go to the super Bowl.
Speaker 6: It's happened every time when they've been the one seed.
Speaker 6: They haven't lost either of their home playoff games and
Speaker 6: they've gone to the super Bowl. And so it was
Speaker 6: it was really tailor made for them. But they earned that.
Speaker 6: I mean, clearly, they had the best record, and they
Speaker 6: beat the Rams multiple times to get the job done
Speaker 6: and beat the Niners multiple times to get the job
Speaker 6: done there at the end of the season, so they
Speaker 6: one earned it. But I would just say I think
Speaker 6: they are a play here and a play there closer
Speaker 6: to being more in that mix of Oh, they might
Speaker 6: find themselves on the outside looking.
Speaker 5: In real quick. We didn't mention this guy. One of
Speaker 5: the other rookies that were impressive last night, Ephijian's Price
Speaker 5: sock his pass breakup on Carneal Tate, the number one
Speaker 5: wide receiver taken in the draft, in the end zone.
Speaker 6: There. He also whift on a tackle he did. He
Speaker 6: also whifted on a tackle. I liked the play at
Speaker 6: the goal line. I liked a lot. He is intriguing.
Speaker 6: I know that there are varying opinions from people I've
Speaker 6: talked to about the level of player that he is.
Speaker 6: But that play at the goal line was was a
Speaker 6: big time, big time play. But it seems like it
Speaker 6: seems like he might be a little bit I don't
Speaker 6: want to overstate it, but a little boom or bust,
Speaker 6: you know, a little like a He can make that play,
Speaker 6: but then there might be a play right in front
Speaker 6: of you that he doesn't make, and you have to
Speaker 6: factor that into the evaluation as well.
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Speaker 5: We saw him last year come in mac Jones eight
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