WEBVTT - Andrew Baggarly on the Giants epic collapse to the Reds 0:00:00.170 --> 0:00:04.390 Now, back to Dirty Work. Adam Copeland and Derek Papa 0:00:05.010 --> 0:00:10.940 on KNBR 104.5 and 680 AM. The Sports Leader. 0:00:11.700 --> 0:00:14.780 Dirty Work on a Wednesday afternoon, Wednesday evening. Adam Copeland, 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:17.320 D-Pop with you. We're joined on the UMA guest line 0:00:17.360 --> 0:00:19.700 now by Andy Bagley. He covers the Giants for The Athletic. 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:22.260 The Giants fell today 10-9, leading by six runs in 0:00:22.300 --> 0:00:25.340 the ninth inning. Bags is sponsored by the Dolan Law Firm. 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:28.750 They live here, they work here, they win here. DolanLawFirm.com. Andy, 0:00:28.770 --> 0:00:29.360 what's going on, man? 0:00:29.410 --> 0:00:33.860 How are you? A little stunned. Processing. 0:00:34.620 --> 0:00:37.699 Still trying to write my story, which bears no resemblance 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:40.360 to the story that I had mostly written a little 0:00:40.400 --> 0:00:41.000 while earlier. 0:00:41.020 --> 0:00:46.000 Yeah, wow. I mean, they're not boring. They're not a 0:00:46.020 --> 0:00:46.620 boring team. 0:00:47.140 --> 0:00:48.940 We can say that much about them, but they were 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:51.420 pretty roundly booed at the end of this one. And 0:00:51.460 --> 0:00:53.580 when you have the worst ninth inning blown lead in 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:57.200 franchise history in a loss, you understand why. 0:00:57.340 --> 0:00:59.380 I mean, wow. Yeah, just stunning. 0:00:59.880 --> 0:01:01.840 Yeah, it's what I was saying to Derek. I was like, 0:01:01.860 --> 0:01:03.520 I mean, I was here for this game, and Derek 0:01:03.540 --> 0:01:05.199 said he wasn't all that surprised just because of what 0:01:05.220 --> 0:01:08.080 the bullpen's done. I said, even for how the bullpen's 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:09.800 been and the guys that were out there, this was 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:12.040 a stunning loss. I mean, nobody's ever seen this before, 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:14.560 coming to Oracle Park, going to Candlestick, going to Seal Stadium, 0:01:14.860 --> 0:01:17.039 going to the polo grounds. It had never happened. We'd 0:01:17.100 --> 0:01:19.250 never seen a team blow a lead like this. Now, 0:01:19.270 --> 0:01:21.550 I haven't heard Tony Vitello's audio after the game, but 0:01:21.890 --> 0:01:25.010 he was ejected early in the game and watched this 0:01:25.090 --> 0:01:27.970 one from afar, but he seemed visibly frustrated just in 0:01:27.990 --> 0:01:29.190 the little video clip that I saw. 0:01:30.550 --> 0:01:30.810 Yeah. 0:01:30.890 --> 0:01:33.030 I mean, I think he was, you know, he watched 0:01:33.140 --> 0:01:36.540 it in the clubhouse, argued a check swing call five 0:01:36.580 --> 0:01:39.160 batters into the game. You know, he's trying to defend 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:41.340 his pitcher. Logan Webb's coming off a tough start. 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:43.860 Yeah. He's, he's feeling like he's got to do more 0:01:43.900 --> 0:01:46.600 to defend his guys. And, and I mean, it wasn't 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:47.030 a swing. 0:01:47.670 --> 0:01:49.850 Even Logan Webb said it, it wasn't a swing, but 0:01:50.350 --> 0:01:52.970 you know, he's trying to defend his guys and really 0:01:52.990 --> 0:01:54.010 doesn't say a whole lot. 0:01:55.130 --> 0:01:56.390 And then got ejected. 0:01:56.410 --> 0:01:58.210 And we've seen some umpires have had a pretty quick 0:01:58.250 --> 0:02:00.940 hook with them and, Maybe there's a little more baked 0:02:00.980 --> 0:02:03.960 into that. I think with some umpires, pretty clearly they've 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:06.059 shown maybe a little contempt for him. 0:02:07.260 --> 0:02:08.280 And that's part of the deal. 0:02:08.470 --> 0:02:10.990 You know, as someone who's coming with his background of 0:02:11.050 --> 0:02:12.290 never being in pro ball before. 0:02:12.310 --> 0:02:14.470 It doesn't make it fair. It doesn't make it right. 0:02:15.050 --> 0:02:18.790 But, yeah, you know, he obviously wasn't really around to 0:02:18.830 --> 0:02:21.660 manage the rest of this game. But, you know, Rafael Devers, 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:23.400 it looks like he could hit 40 homers this year. 0:02:23.419 --> 0:02:27.369 I mean, he's locked in, hits a splash homer. Shea 0:02:27.410 --> 0:02:29.850 Whitcomb puts a charge into one, Jonah Cox. I mean, 0:02:30.169 --> 0:02:30.590 there were a lot of. 0:02:30.590 --> 0:02:33.940 Good things happening in this game, but it's just kind 0:02:33.980 --> 0:02:36.560 of stunning that this is the ninth time that they've 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:38.820 lost a game that they led in the ninth inning 0:02:38.860 --> 0:02:41.620 this year. And even if they flip every one of those, 0:02:41.660 --> 0:02:44.220 this is not a playoff team, right? But it's just, 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:47.679 no matter how conditioned you are to disappointment at this stage, 0:02:47.940 --> 0:02:50.169 you lose a game like this, it stuns you. It's 0:02:50.370 --> 0:02:52.730 absolutely a shot to the solar plexus, and that's kind 0:02:52.770 --> 0:02:53.400 of where they are right now. 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:56.260 Yeah, I mean, historic loss today, Bags, and wouldn't say 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:58.180 it's rock bottom by any means when they wave the 0:02:58.220 --> 0:03:01.400 white flag much earlier this season. That said, Tony wants 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:03.019 to win. These guys want to win. They want to 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:05.320 get their first sweep of the season. So just what 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:07.920 was the vibe in the clubhouse after this demoralizing loss? 0:03:08.820 --> 0:03:12.910 I mean, just quiet. You know, we talked to Logan Webb. 0:03:13.190 --> 0:03:14.989 I talked to Dylan Smith, who's an absolute pro. 0:03:16.270 --> 0:03:17.870 You know, obviously, this starts getting away. 0:03:17.730 --> 0:03:20.950 From them when Spencer Bivens not not the home run 0:03:20.970 --> 0:03:22.290 he allowed to start at the beginning but the two 0:03:22.350 --> 0:03:24.130 walks and then of course you mix in a bunch 0:03:24.169 --> 0:03:28.090 that's not uh converted into an out and um leads 0:03:28.110 --> 0:03:30.669 to an extra base and you know you had some 0:03:30.710 --> 0:03:32.550 sloppy play in there too we've seen that all year 0:03:32.669 --> 0:03:34.390 and you know it just seems like more of the 0:03:34.410 --> 0:03:37.960 same and you know anytime this team hasn't shown a 0:03:38.070 --> 0:03:42.660 little glimmer of putting together any kind of momentum uh 0:03:42.780 --> 0:03:44.400 you know they kind of just trip over their own 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:47.410 feet and this was probably the ultimate example of that. 0:03:47.470 --> 0:03:50.050 Like you said, they're three outs away holding a six 0:03:50.090 --> 0:03:53.650 run lead from their first three game sweep of the season. 0:03:53.670 --> 0:03:56.030 And they're the only team that hasn't done it. And 0:03:56.050 --> 0:03:57.770 if they don't do it this year, they'll be the first. 0:03:57.690 --> 0:04:01.250 Giants team who hasn't done it since 1915, I think 0:04:01.330 --> 0:04:02.510 is the stat I saw. 0:04:02.610 --> 0:04:05.430 So yeah, they really desperately want to sweep a series 0:04:05.450 --> 0:04:07.410 and just feel good about themselves for five. 0:04:07.250 --> 0:04:09.690 Minutes, you know, and they're not even able to do that. 0:04:10.310 --> 0:04:12.990 Talking to Andy Bagley covers the giants for the athletic. 0:04:13.030 --> 0:04:14.830 He joins us on the UMA guest line. I was 0:04:14.850 --> 0:04:17.130 looking today or just thinking today about, you know, we've 0:04:17.150 --> 0:04:18.930 talked a lot about roster and where their focus will 0:04:18.950 --> 0:04:21.210 go this offseason and where they need to improve. But 0:04:21.230 --> 0:04:23.180 I wonder about, I mean, Tony Vitello came in. They 0:04:23.190 --> 0:04:25.880 did have one coaching change in season with Hector Borg 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:30.440 being replaced at third base by Gary Pettis. I wonder 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:32.780 just about, and I'm not looking to talk about calling 0:04:32.820 --> 0:04:35.240 for somebody's job, but I wonder where the Giants will 0:04:35.260 --> 0:04:38.900 evaluate what they could be better at with a coaching 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:42.550 change or whether coaching could improve any one element. I 0:04:42.570 --> 0:04:44.229 just look at the pitching staff in general and I go, 0:04:44.370 --> 0:04:46.610 forget the saves, forget the bullpen. They don't throw a 0:04:46.610 --> 0:04:48.570 lot of strikes bags. And there's a lot of first 0:04:48.610 --> 0:04:49.250 year guys here. 0:04:50.790 --> 0:04:52.800 Yeah. I mean, clearly there's a lot of very, very 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:56.740 fundamental concepts that, you know, they've gone backwards on and, 0:04:56.900 --> 0:04:59.180 you know, the, the hitters need to draw more walks, 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:02.440 work more counts, be more selective. The pitchers need to 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:05.659 create more count leverage, not walk as many batters. I mean, 0:05:06.150 --> 0:05:08.919 You know, there were a lot of things that I 0:05:08.980 --> 0:05:12.299 think went into the previous regime, like the Farhan Zaidi regime. 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:15.400 I mean, he was a big believer in strike-up-to-walk ratio, 0:05:15.820 --> 0:05:17.659 you know, home run rate, keep the ball in the 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:21.240 ballpark and don't walk, guys. And that'll take you most 0:05:21.260 --> 0:05:23.760 of the way, really. And you still need to have 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:27.050 some bat-missers in there. But that's kind of what this 0:05:27.070 --> 0:05:30.690 team has gotten away from. You know, the rosters that 0:05:31.010 --> 0:05:33.710 are kind of high-floor rosters where you don't have the 0:05:33.750 --> 0:05:37.210 superstar players– you know, you can still compete and contend. 0:05:37.270 --> 0:05:40.490 I mean, last year's team is disappointing as the season was, 0:05:40.510 --> 0:05:42.930 they were 500 team, you know, and they were maybe 0:05:42.950 --> 0:05:45.570 two or three games out of being in the playoffs. 0:05:45.610 --> 0:05:45.810 Right. 0:05:46.510 --> 0:05:49.180 And, and so they've really gone backwards in a lot 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:51.099 of those ways. And that's going to be what they're 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:51.320 going to. 0:05:51.300 --> 0:05:52.080 Have to re-examine. 0:05:52.100 --> 0:05:55.440 I would argue it starts from a roster building. 0:05:55.180 --> 0:05:59.500 Standpoint and the choices that they made. And then, and 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:00.580 then from there, it's okay. 0:06:00.620 --> 0:06:02.310 How do we squeeze a little more juice out of the, 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:05.030 out of the orange and, and that's where you really 0:06:05.070 --> 0:06:06.330 have to take a look at the coaching staff. 0:06:06.870 --> 0:06:09.190 Talking to Andy Baggerly on the UMA guest line. Andy, 0:06:09.210 --> 0:06:12.170 your reaction to the unfortunate news for Carson Wisenhunt suffering 0:06:12.210 --> 0:06:14.830 a torn UCL and having to have Tommy John along 0:06:14.850 --> 0:06:15.650 with Trevor McDonald? 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:19.040 Yeah, you know, it feels like the Giants kind of 0:06:19.820 --> 0:06:22.940 escaped the beast on this one for a long time. 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:27.880 They had a long stretch where they really didn't lose 0:06:27.940 --> 0:06:32.380 any top prospects or really good players. to Tommy John surgery, 0:06:32.420 --> 0:06:35.260 some of their pitching prospects really from Jesse Foppert. I 0:06:35.300 --> 0:06:37.140 think all the way you could trace. 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:37.900 Another 15 years. 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:40.110 I know that's something Dave Rigetti was very proud of. 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:42.290 You know, they were able to get these guys to 0:06:42.310 --> 0:06:45.089 the big leagues and get them, you know, to have contracts, 0:06:45.150 --> 0:06:47.430 even though no Lowry was able to get, you know, 0:06:47.589 --> 0:06:49.390 a multi-year contract to his RB years. 0:06:50.410 --> 0:06:52.390 But, you know, it's, it's tough. 0:06:52.690 --> 0:06:54.560 The way you ask so much of your pitchers is 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:55.720 throw so hard these days. 0:06:56.339 --> 0:06:57.919 And, you know, the guys who are getting hurt aren't 0:06:57.940 --> 0:06:58.919 exactly guys. 0:06:58.700 --> 0:07:02.039 Who were, you know, throw in 99 on our gas. Um, 0:07:02.220 --> 0:07:05.930 but we did see Hayden Birdsong go down in spring training. Uh, and, 0:07:06.089 --> 0:07:07.510 and now you're seeing wiz and hunt. 0:07:07.430 --> 0:07:08.670 And Trevor McDonald. 0:07:08.790 --> 0:07:10.770 I don't think this is anything that you put on 0:07:10.850 --> 0:07:13.110 like the coaches or you put on the training staff. 0:07:13.150 --> 0:07:14.130 I think this is. 0:07:14.090 --> 0:07:18.100 Just modern baseball and the giants were, were fortunate enough 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:20.760 to avoid a good stretch of it where it was 0:07:20.820 --> 0:07:23.520 really affecting the rest of the league. And, and now, 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:25.900 you know, maybe this is just a sort of regressing 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:28.660 to the mean a little bit. And, and, All that aside, 0:07:29.160 --> 0:07:31.100 on a very personal level, you feel terrible for a 0:07:31.140 --> 0:07:35.320 Carson Wittenhut. Again, it's just like what we're talking about. 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:38.540 Once you start to show a glimmer of something positive 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:41.040 where you can really feel good about yourself. He was 0:07:41.060 --> 0:07:44.660 putting together a nice start the other day and then, boom, 0:07:44.700 --> 0:07:46.870 feels it on a pitch and tries to throw another 0:07:46.930 --> 0:07:50.350 and then that's it. You feel for him it's going 0:07:50.370 --> 0:07:54.590 to be a long road back. McDonald had his procedure 0:07:54.850 --> 0:07:58.230 just earlier this month, so Yeah, it's got to be tough, man. 0:07:58.290 --> 0:08:00.450 I mean, these guys do this because they love to 0:08:00.470 --> 0:08:04.210 compete for the most part, and you've got to take 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:06.200 it away from you for more than a year. 0:08:06.220 --> 0:08:08.760 So, yeah, it's going to be a long road back 0:08:08.780 --> 0:08:09.040 for them. 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:11.080 Talking to Bags, a few more minutes here on the 0:08:11.140 --> 0:08:13.300 ULA guest line. I don't think it was an overstatement 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:15.320 when the Giants acquired Rafael Devers that a lot of 0:08:15.380 --> 0:08:17.900 us thought and said, this is the best talent-wise power 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:20.540 hitter they've had or acquired since they had Barry Bonds. 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:22.880 And now he's doing things at Oracle Park that only 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:24.560 Bonds had ever done, right? I mean, he's hit his 0:08:24.860 --> 0:08:27.550 17th home run of the season. today in this ballpark 0:08:27.590 --> 0:08:31.170 and a towering, pretty impressive splash hit. I really don't 0:08:31.230 --> 0:08:33.089 think this ballpark is affecting him all that much. I 0:08:33.110 --> 0:08:34.890 think he's a slow starter, but it does seem like 0:08:35.290 --> 0:08:36.750 he's kind of coming back to the mean. 0:08:36.590 --> 0:08:38.750 Here, Pax. You know what? 0:08:38.990 --> 0:08:42.490 I would love to have a conversation with him because 0:08:42.850 --> 0:08:45.490 he doesn't talk to us very often, obviously. I think 0:08:45.510 --> 0:08:47.469 we were hoping we could talk to him after today's game, 0:08:47.510 --> 0:08:52.050 but then the story obviously changed. But I would love 0:08:52.390 --> 0:08:58.380 to ask him– did that series in Fenway almost kind 0:08:58.450 --> 0:09:01.290 of give you closure a little bit? You know, you 0:09:01.350 --> 0:09:05.150 have that experience, whether they booed you, appreciated you, cheered you, whatever. 0:09:05.170 --> 0:09:07.189 It almost helps you tie a bow on it. And 0:09:07.230 --> 0:09:09.949 then you come back home and it feels like home, 0:09:10.170 --> 0:09:13.490 you know, as opposed to I'm a mercenary and this 0:09:13.530 --> 0:09:14.510 is where I've been traded to. 0:09:15.090 --> 0:09:15.510 I don't know. 0:09:15.530 --> 0:09:17.699 I don't even know if he would, he seems kind 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:19.820 of dismissive of questions like that. So I don't think 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:21.880 he'd even get an answer, but yeah, I do wonder 0:09:22.010 --> 0:09:25.260 it's probably human nature. You know, you have an experience 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:27.619 like that where you go to Boston and maybe it 0:09:27.660 --> 0:09:29.540 just does allow you to kind of close the loop 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:33.140 a little bit. And, and clearly he looks comfortable now here. 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:35.900 I think he does have the opportunity to be a 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:37.500 fan favorite here. 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:39.050 I would love it. 0:09:39.179 --> 0:09:45.280 You know, obviously as someone who likes to introduce players to, 0:09:45.540 --> 0:09:49.240 to fans and sort of make that connection and, You know, 0:09:49.260 --> 0:09:50.640 I would love it if he shared a little more 0:09:50.660 --> 0:09:53.260 of himself with us, which he hasn't yet, but that's 0:09:53.300 --> 0:09:56.929 his prerogative. So if you do great things on the field, 0:09:56.950 --> 0:09:57.750 you're going to get cheered. 0:09:58.270 --> 0:10:01.080 And, you know, whether you're Raphael. Devers or Barry Bonds 0:10:01.140 --> 0:10:04.579 or whoever. So, you know, yeah, he's having. 0:10:04.660 --> 0:10:06.340 What's going to turn into a good year. It could 0:10:06.380 --> 0:10:10.209 even be a 40-homer year, really. And you look at 0:10:10.850 --> 0:10:12.850 the whole lineup is completely disintegrated. 0:10:13.390 --> 0:10:13.910 Around him. 0:10:14.130 --> 0:10:16.829 I mean, Jung-Hoo Lee scratched before the first pitch and 0:10:16.850 --> 0:10:19.550 it's Raphael Devers is the only guy left holding this 0:10:19.570 --> 0:10:22.530 whole thing up. And by the way, he's played in every. 0:10:22.309 --> 0:10:22.929 Game this year. 0:10:23.390 --> 0:10:25.099 And Tony Vitello says he's going to give him a 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:26.240 day or two off down the stretch. 0:10:26.580 --> 0:10:27.160 I don't think so. 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:28.640 That's what Tony says. 0:10:28.740 --> 0:10:29.300 I don't believe him. 0:10:29.420 --> 0:10:31.160 I don't think Raphael Devers is going to miss a 0:10:31.179 --> 0:10:33.000 game this year. You know, I think he's probably going 0:10:33.020 --> 0:10:36.079 to play in both ends of Saturday's doubleheader because I 0:10:36.100 --> 0:10:37.520 think that's what he loves to do. He's got the 0:10:37.580 --> 0:10:41.400 third longest consecutive game streak in the major leagues he 0:10:41.420 --> 0:10:46.370 played 163 games last year and you know it's he's 0:10:46.490 --> 0:10:47.890 obviously not a part of the. 0:10:47.830 --> 0:10:49.929 Problem i think we can very very clearly. 0:10:49.690 --> 0:10:52.790 Say that staying on devers well red hot series and 0:10:52.830 --> 0:10:55.050 doing it with an inexperienced lineup and of course devers 0:10:55.110 --> 0:10:57.480 has received a ton of criticism since becoming a giant 0:10:57.520 --> 0:11:00.360 but john shea on our airwaves earlier today said that 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:02.040 he's been more of a mentor of late have you 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:02.980 seen that as well andy. 0:11:04.550 --> 0:11:07.010 Um, you know, hard to see, we're not in the clubhouse. Um, 0:11:07.410 --> 0:11:09.270 we see when guys come out and do their work. Uh, 0:11:09.290 --> 0:11:11.530 that's what I think we've been told. That's what Tony 0:11:11.550 --> 0:11:14.450 Vitello said that, uh, Devers has been someone who will 0:11:14.470 --> 0:11:17.880 speak up in hitters meetings. Um, you know, so yeah, 0:11:17.890 --> 0:11:21.640 I think you just go based on that. And, uh, um, that's, 0:11:21.700 --> 0:11:25.000 that's what the manager says. So, um, you know, he's 0:11:25.020 --> 0:11:26.700 someone who's been around the block. He's been a part 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:29.640 of a world series team. He's, you know, been the 0:11:29.740 --> 0:11:31.820 super young guy. He was in the big leagues, barely what, 0:11:31.820 --> 0:11:34.920 1920 years old. So, um, this guy's seen a lot 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:36.900 in his career before his 30th birthday. 0:11:37.540 --> 0:11:39.010 And, you know, anything he. 0:11:39.010 --> 0:11:40.370 Can do to kind of share any of that wisdom 0:11:40.390 --> 0:11:41.449 with his teammates. 0:11:41.170 --> 0:11:44.170 Is something that I'm sure everyone's going to be listening to. 0:11:44.830 --> 0:11:46.689 Last one for me, Bags, before we let you go, 0:11:46.970 --> 0:11:48.809 the flop today from Landon Rupp, who was supposed to 0:11:48.850 --> 0:11:51.220 be the starter to Logan Webb. I know there was 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:52.640 talk before the game, maybe that was just to go 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:54.020 for the sweep. Do we know that that was the 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:55.980 reason or is there anything else behind this? 0:11:56.800 --> 0:11:59.300 No, you know, it really came from Logan and his 0:11:59.380 --> 0:12:02.000 thought process was a couple of things. One, You know, 0:12:02.020 --> 0:12:04.660 he only threw two whatever innings in Boston because it 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:06.720 was a bad start. So he didn't throw that many pitches. 0:12:07.220 --> 0:12:10.780 And so he didn't need the extra day, really. But 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:12.829 he knew that Landon Roop could use the extra day 0:12:12.910 --> 0:12:15.810 because Roop is way past however many innings he's thrown 0:12:15.850 --> 0:12:19.010 in a professional season. So I think he's both thinking, hey, 0:12:19.190 --> 0:12:21.709 I don't need to cool my heels for another day 0:12:21.730 --> 0:12:25.780 because I kind of had a short start. And, you know, 0:12:25.860 --> 0:12:29.290 I got this young teammate who probably could use the 0:12:29.390 --> 0:12:32.690 extra day just to rest and recover. So that kind 0:12:32.710 --> 0:12:36.120 of came from Logan himself. Everybody was on board. 0:12:35.940 --> 0:12:38.040 With it, so that's why they did it. Well, good stuff. 0:12:38.059 --> 0:12:40.780 Good leadership from Logan Webb there, too. And deserved better 0:12:40.820 --> 0:12:42.860 in terms of a victory today. I'm sure he's thinking 0:12:42.900 --> 0:12:44.020 to himself, how am I going to get a loss 0:12:44.059 --> 0:12:45.960 in that? Or not going to win in that one. 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:49.080 Andrew Baggerly covers the Giants for The Athletic. He joins 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:50.940 us every week here. Bags, appreciate the time. Good luck 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:52.280 finishing the story, man. We'll talk to you soon. 0:12:52.340 --> 0:12:53.770 Thanks, Andy. Yeah, thanks, guys. Appreciate it. 0:12:53.830 --> 0:12:56.050 Thanks, man. All right, good stuff there. Adam Copeland, Derek 0:12:56.070 --> 0:12:58.250 Papa with you until 6 o'clock tonight. 0:12:58.670 --> 0:13:00.020 Dude, I'm not going to be with you tomorrow, man. 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:01.900 We'll be okay. 0:13:02.300 --> 0:13:04.959 Oh, dude. 0:13:05.020 --> 0:13:05.640 Wow. 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:07.059 Did you catch that, dude? 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:08.439 Jesus. 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:10.060 Dude, holy crap. 0:13:10.820 --> 0:13:12.300 I'm looking forward to a little Rick action. 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:13.220 What are you going to do? 0:13:13.300 --> 0:13:14.199 We'll be okay. 0:13:14.220 --> 0:13:17.620 You're doing bigger and better things, doing 49ers pregame with 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:20.670 John Dickinson, and I'll do my little show with Rick 0:13:20.690 --> 0:13:21.510 Tittle tomorrow. 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:23.940 Don't walk it back. 0:13:23.780 --> 0:13:24.140 Now, dude. 0:13:24.380 --> 0:13:25.380 Sorry, you caught me off guard there. 0:13:25.420 --> 0:13:26.460 I didn't know we were going there. 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:26.970 Yeah, I bet you did. 0:13:26.980 --> 0:13:27.760 I'll miss you, too. 0:13:28.250 --> 0:13:30.150 I didn't say all that much. I was like, oh, man, 0:13:30.190 --> 0:13:31.190 am I going to be there tomorrow? 0:13:31.650 --> 0:13:32.170 Yeah, I know. 0:13:32.370 --> 0:13:34.090 You know why I got into this business, dude, to 0:13:34.130 --> 0:13:35.310 talk on KSFO. 0:13:35.370 --> 0:13:35.610 Yes. 0:13:35.850 --> 0:13:37.510 We'll take a quick break. When we come on back, 0:13:37.730 --> 0:13:39.230 we'll put the show to bed. It's Dirty Work. It's 0:13:39.250 --> 0:13:40.790 a Wednesday. It's only here on the Sports Leader.