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Speaker 1: We made the connection with Susan's lessler covers the Giants

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Speaker 1: for the San Francisco Chronicles. Susan is sponsored by Surfside.

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Speaker 1: It's not a Seltzer, it's Surfside, proud partner of the

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Speaker 1: San Francisco Giants. Susan joined us on the UMA guest line, Susan,

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Speaker 1: what's going on? How are you?

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Speaker 2: Susan?

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Speaker 3: Hey, guys, not a lot. How are you?

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're doing well. We've been been talking about

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Speaker 1: the first weekend and just really, I mean, for me,

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Speaker 1: it's about getting to know Tony Vitel and I know

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Speaker 1: you guys spent time with them and in spring, but

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Speaker 1: now it is different. We're into games, there is action,

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Speaker 1: and it's been a bit of a different I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's been a different field getting to know a new

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Speaker 1: guy and how it is that he sees the game.

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Speaker 1: But what's been your just sort of your take on

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Speaker 1: his reaction to these losses and it's a long season.

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Speaker 1: It just feels like these are are much different postgames

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think it was after that second loss to

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Speaker 3: the Yankees that the postgame press conference was a little unusual.

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Speaker 3: I think I'm answer frankly after two games, maybe jumping

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Speaker 3: you know, because if I Tella said, I gave this

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Speaker 3: And I think the players kind of went like, you know,

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Speaker 3: if we heard Robbie Race say it, like we're big

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Speaker 3: league players, we know we understand the ups and downs.

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Speaker 3: And I don't think he meant that like duh college coach.

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Speaker 3: I think he meant like he doesn't need to take

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Speaker 3: the blame on himself. I think it like everything was fine,

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Speaker 3: everything's till like people should not be making too much

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Speaker 3: of any of that. But I do like it if

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Speaker 3: everyone says Tony Vaitelo is so accountable, that's one of

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Speaker 3: the best things about him. I think from the get

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Speaker 3: go that's what he's trying to be. Doesn't need to

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Speaker 3: be not in a case I guess lose, you know,

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Speaker 3: to go like, okay, maybe I did something here. Well.

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Speaker 2: People are questioning some of his decisions over the weekend,

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Speaker 2: with having Jared all of a pinch run for Willia

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Speaker 2: of Junghu Lee in the eighth. But as far as today, Susan,

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Speaker 2: what do you think about the lineup with Willia Domas batting,

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Speaker 2: you know, first, and then you have Luisa rise Forth

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Speaker 2: after Willie Damas was in the sixth hole on Saturday,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting. I mean, look, they have a bunch

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Speaker 3: of guys who can hit like Leados, including Adamas. He's

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Speaker 3: hit their plenty, Arise has hit their plenty. Jung Huley

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Speaker 3: was obviously there, you know the other day he's hit

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Speaker 3: their plenty. I think this is about matchups as much

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Speaker 3: I've got no problem whatsoever with you know, shifting things around.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'd like to see Devers get in the

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Speaker 3: field sooner than later. They keep saying he's ready, close

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Speaker 3: to ready. They're just being cautious, But I think that's

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Speaker 3: get in Carnacione in there. Schmidt so far has been

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Speaker 3: getting the call at first base. He's a somewhat better

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Speaker 3: you know, they scored one run in the first three games.

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Speaker 3: They need something else. And for me, if he got

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Speaker 1: Somehow susan lesser with us here on the Yuman guessline.

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Speaker 1: Couple of moves made today, Well, we know Louis Mantis

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Speaker 1: Tigers for Dylan Smith, a reliever who comes over and

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Speaker 1: will go to Triple A Sacramento. Just thoughts on those

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Speaker 3: weren't going to see Tyler Fitzgerald. I hope somebody also

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Speaker 3: Voytello talked about try hard, and I think that was

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Speaker 3: So I hope he goes somewhere. I do think he

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Speaker 2: Talker Susan Slusher on the UMA guest line, Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: think the I think the reaction today from fans is

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Speaker 2: but just how it looked in the offensive woes. So

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Speaker 2: with all to talk about the lineup this season is

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Speaker 2: the most frustrating thing seeing this team go through the

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Speaker 2: same offensive woes as a season ago, not capitalizing with

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Speaker 3: Well, it was hard not to think of it last year,

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Speaker 3: right that Buster talked about the team looking flat at times.

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Speaker 3: But we know this offense will be better. You know

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Speaker 3: know there's this idea out there he's more hurt than

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Speaker 3: they're letting on. I haven't seen any indication of that.

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Speaker 1: Follow Susan one series in and I paid attention around

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Speaker 1: many missed calls umpires have made behind the play with

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Speaker 1: the abs. As a boy, C. B. Bucker really hearing

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Speaker 1: it this week, this weekend, I should say, what did

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we were, you know what the first night. Really,

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Speaker 3: there were a lot. We're seeing that the the catchers

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Speaker 3: There's been talk about guys doing that. We want to

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Speaker 1: And I wonder if they'll just start to worry, you

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Speaker 1: But what did you learn about the bullpen this weekend?

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Speaker 1: it is Ryan Walker. But what did you learn about

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they looked good. They really did. And that's been

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Speaker 3: the biggest question mark, right the well, like the offense

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Speaker 3: and they looked really good. Keaton Winn is a guy

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Speaker 3: So I think, you know, for him, it's really just

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Speaker 3: because the stuff is great. He is very he's been

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Speaker 3: so far, so good. Hey, look it's three days. I'm

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Speaker 3: definitely not going to weigh in overall on a bullpen

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Speaker 3: that still has some questions for of course, yeah really,

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Speaker 3: but you can't argue so far, guys look great. They

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Speaker 1: Susan Flusher, the voice she hear does a great job

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Speaker 1: covering the Giants for the San Francisco Chronicle. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: to her every week throughout the baseball season. Susan chasing

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Speaker 1: down that first win for Tony Vitello, what's hoping happens

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Speaker 1: tonight and we will talk to you soon.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Susan, fantastic, Thanks us