WEBVTT - Trace Gallagher on the Governor's Race 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:03.440 And we continue at one five in the afternoon on 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:06.840 the John Phillips Show, Mister Randy Wiggs in Culver City. 0:00:06.760 --> 0:00:10.280 John, it's a right of passage in the California's governor's race. 0:00:10.520 --> 0:00:13.360 Everybody has to do it at least once, and it 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:17.000 was finally Tom Steyer's turn to put on the gas 0:00:17.000 --> 0:00:19.520 mask and get into the Tijuana River. 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:22.319 The fact that we're standing here with gas mask sign 0:00:22.720 --> 0:00:25.440 should explain that this is a health emergency. 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:28.040 The longer we wait, the worse this gas. 0:00:29.520 --> 0:00:30.880 He sounds like Darth Vader. 0:00:31.320 --> 0:00:32.720 You can smell it right here. 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:36.640 You know. 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:39.839 You would think that given the fact that part of 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:43.239 the deal of running for governor is that you have 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:47.000 to go tour the Tijuana River, you would imagine that 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:49.200 that in and of itself would call the field. 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:53.800 Everyone's doing it. Everyone wants this job so bad they're 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:55.040 jumping in the sewage. 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:57.440 The fact that we're standing here with gas mass on. 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:07.000 They all look like they're at Chernobyl, and not one 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:09.760 of them will criticize the current governor for doing nothing 0:01:09.800 --> 0:01:13.840 on this. And they're willing to do anything that it 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:17.680 takes to clean up that river, except asking Mexico to 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:20.039 stop dumping raw sewage directly into it. 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:23.000 You can smart right here. 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:27.720 Eight hundred two two two five two two is jellphone 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:30.640 number one. Eight hundred two two two five two two two. 0:01:31.200 --> 0:01:33.319 It is our pleasure and welcome our next guest to 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:36.560 the program. You watch him each and every weeknight on 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:39.480 the Fox News channel where he is the anchor of 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:42.760 Fox News at Night. You can get him on exit 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:47.320 Trace Gallagher, Trace Gallagher, Welcome, it's. 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:47.840 Great to be here. 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:48.280 Thank you. 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:50.600 You know, I had no idea that to run for 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:53.080 governor of California head to jump in the Tijuana River, 0:01:53.160 --> 0:01:56.400 but I think that's uh, it's fascinating the stuff you 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:57.200 learn on this show. 0:01:57.280 --> 0:01:58.760 Job really is now. 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:01.600 So far, no one's been batteries there, but give it time. 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:05.400 Yeah, it's crazy. 0:02:05.480 --> 0:02:06.240 I haven't don't. 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:08.160 I don't know if Steve Hilton has jumped in the 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:12.679 Tijuana River, but I'm guessing probably not. But well, I'll 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:13.919 ask him next time he's on the show. 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:17.200 You know, there are certain advantages that could come from that, 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:19.560 because if Steve Hilton were to have a third arm, 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:21.240 he could shake more hands. 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:25.000 Mm hmmm, he could he could and listen. You know, 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:28.120 Steve Hilton really is I mean, you know, I think 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:30.240 you look at the latest numbers and he's kind of 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:30.959 holding his own. 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:31.960 A lot of people would. 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:34.520 Say, oh, no, uncle's gonna I think Steve Hilton's kind 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:37.280 of holding his own so far, even with you know, 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:39.680 even the early results of Swallwell falling out of this 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:44.560 thing or leaving this thing, Steve Hilton looks like for 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:46.240 the time being, he's. 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:48.320 Uh, he tends to be holding his own. 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:50.239 But we'll see in the next couple of weeks. 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:54.920 So, the big news yesterday was that former state Controller 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:57.400 Betty E announced that she would be dropping out of 0:02:57.400 --> 0:03:00.640 the rays. She was at one percent the polls, so 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:03.760 I don't think it'll impact the other candidates much as 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:07.680 it did when Eric Swalwell dropped out after earning somewhere 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:11.760 between ten and thirteen percent in the polls. But I'll 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:13.799 tell you, I don't know if you saw the interview 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:16.920 that she did with Nicki Lorenzo after she dropped out, 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:21.040 but I sense this resentment from so many of the 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:23.920 candidates and the single digits, whether it's her or Tony 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:28.400 Thurman or Antoniolvia Ragosa. And you could even make the 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:32.000 argument that it applies to Matt Mahon two, and that 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:36.200 is those candidates seem to be the candidates who, well, 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:39.960 I disagree with their proposals for how to deal with it. 0:03:40.320 --> 0:03:45.119 They do understand the complexities of California government, California politics. 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:47.880 They've been in the trenches for many years. And the 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:50.440 Democrats who have been pulling the best, whether it be 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:55.040 Tom Steyer or Eric Swalwell or Katie Porter now Javier Bsera, 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:58.440 they come from the federal government, they come from the 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:02.160 private sector, They come from places other than state politics. 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:05.640 And when you see them do an interview where state 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:09.080 politics comes up and they get asked very specific questions 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:12.520 about the bullet train or the insurance crisis, or crime 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:16.159 or homelessness or whatever, they have a very surface level 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:19.719 understanding of those subjects. And then they switch it to 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:23.200 Donald Trump. They start talking about Trump, they start talking 0:04:23.240 --> 0:04:26.120 about ice because that's what they know about, that's what 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:29.200 they care about. And the candidates who can't break out 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:32.200 of those single digits seem to know the most about 0:04:32.240 --> 0:04:36.240 the subject matter. But right now, that's not what Democratic 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:39.680 primary voters are buying. And I do believe there's a 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:42.760 sense of resentment that exists within that field, which is 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:44.840 part of the reason that they're not dropping out. 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:47.880 And part of it is, you know that they believe 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:50.159 that that's kind of a way to go, and you're right, 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:52.640 they don't. You look at Katie Porter and Eric Swalwell 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:54.920 and you ask them questions, you interview them, and then 0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:58.200 you're not getting solid answers. You're getting just snark because 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:00.760 they've seen that that's how it's handled. 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:00.960 At the top. 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:03.279 You know, you ask Gavin news In the same questions 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:06.080 about his state, and you will get his press office 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:09.320 and they will send you some snarky response some you know, 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:13.120 they'll f off whatever they say. That's kind of what 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:18.200 these federal you know, lawmakers and so on and so forth. 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:21.240 That's where they see that this is the way to 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:23.280 run this race. So they don't really need to get 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:26.440 involved in the topics. They don't need to amesh themselves 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:30.160 in exactly what California politics needs at this point in time. 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:32.760 They just play the game. They play the game where 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:35.840 they've got name recognition and they're doing the same thing 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:39.240 the governor's doing. You look at Antonio via Ragosa and 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:41.479 he was coming out what last week and he was 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:44.520 kind of explaining the gas prices and instead of you 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:47.320 know Gavin Newsom's oh, this is Trump's fault and swallwell, 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:49.920 this is Trump's fault. He was coming out saying, not 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:52.640 Trump's fault. And here's how the gap and the California 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:56.119 gas prices are so high, here's the reason they're high. 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:58.560 Here's what we need to do to make these prices 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:01.000 go down. And it has nothing going to do with Iran. 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:04.000 Maybe a little bit because of the oil prices going up, 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:09.159 but the main factor in all of this is California's fault. 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:12.560 California did all of these things to itself, and you 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:15.120 need someone like Antonio Villa Ragosa to come out and 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:18.600 exactly explain, explain this whole thing and say, hey, listen, 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:21.200 this is what we need to do to fix this. 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:25.520 And you're right, he's not pulling very well. So maybe 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:29.000 the answer really is just to ignore the questions and 0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:30.560 play the hate Trump game. 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:35.800 How much of that do you think is strategy? And 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:37.800 how much of that do you think is they're the 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:39.840 kid that didn't read the book that's trying to do 0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:42.800 the book report. And I say that because I think 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:46.240 with Newsom he's different from the others. I think he 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:50.880 understands California and he understands California politics and government, but 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:53.560 he's an absentee landlord at this point. He's running for 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:57.479 president and he's just not engaged. When he was engaged, 0:06:57.560 --> 0:07:00.560 he could talk about those subjects. I disagree, agree with him, 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:04.040 but he could have the conversation. I get the impression 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:07.240 that with the others, they're the kids that didn't read 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:09.479 the book, that are trying to pass the book report, 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:12.640 and if you ask them any questions beyond those very 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:16.120 surface level questions, it's crash and burn. The way that 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:20.160 Javier Besserra's interview was with Alex Michaelson on Fox eleven 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:22.800 when he first announced that he was running for governor, 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:25.200 it was a train wreck. I mean, this is a 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:27.760 guy who didn't read the newspaper before he sat down 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:30.040 for that interview, and he's running for governor. 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:32.480 Yeah, I think you're right. 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:34.520 I mean, I think a lot of these candidates, you know, 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:37.960 they haven't really done their homework. They haven't read the book, 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:41.000 and you can see that, but I don't I think 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:43.680 they really believe that that's not the way that you 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:46.720 get to the governor's office anymore. And I would disagree. 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:49.239 I think Gavin Newsom going all the way back to COVID. 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:51.800 I mean I would watch his news conferences and Gavin 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:55.320 Newsom quite frankly, did not know the topics of the day. 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:58.640 Gavin Newsom wasn't up to speed on what was happening 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:01.840 with the whole COVID thing. He was just giving talking points. 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:06.320 He would say meet the moment nineteen times in a 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:10.400 news conference and wouldn't tell you anything about what's going on, 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:13.560 what's the state is doing, what's the process of the 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:16.880 schools shutting down and reopening, what's the process with masking 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:19.960 and so on. He didn't have those answers. So, you know, 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:23.240 my guess, my takeaway from Gavin Newson was always that 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:25.920 he was, you know, he was kind of semi playing 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:30.120 the role. He didn't really know the day to day topics. 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:33.679 And even when you listened to him last week or 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:36.600 two weeks ago, he's saying the same things. He's just 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:41.920 giving you not very thorough answers. And when he pressed 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:44.640 you press him on something, he goes right to Trump, 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:46.920 he goes right to the federal government. Right, it's the 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:49.360 fraud thing, where Gavin Newsom's like, well, it's about time 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:51.679 the federal government's cleaning up their own mess. This is 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:55.080 all federal dollars. He knows it's under his watch. He 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:59.800 knows that this is a mess that his state created 0:08:59.840 --> 0:09:02.920 in he has just sat there and watched it flourish, 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:05.559 and he's not gonna, you know, he's not going to 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:08.360 put himself in jeopardy. So he blames Trump. 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:10.040 But on a lot of. 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:14.080 These issues, you get the feeling he doesn't quite know 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:18.200 where to kind of where to pivot so that he 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:21.440 can give you some proper answers, and instead he figures 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:24.520 half the state's not really paying attention anyway, so you 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:26.719 just give him the you know, you give them the 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:30.480 anti Trump thing, and they're happy and there you go, 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:31.120 off we go. 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:34.520 One of the things I learned when I was working 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:37.160 over at CNN as an analyst and you'd see these 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:40.120 politicians in the green room and they would be regulars, 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:43.520 not just usually on CNN, usually they did CNN, they 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:46.920 did MSNBC two, and they were regulars on both of 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:51.720 those channels is that over time they started to blur 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:55.920 the lines and forget just exactly who their constituents were 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:59.560 and who that audience was. And it wasn't like you 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:01.640 could tell there was a snap of the fingers and 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:05.559 they just suddenly had amnesia and forgot who the voters 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:08.800 were back at home. But you could see over time 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:12.880 their answers catered to that audience and the fact that 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:15.880 every time they would go on and say something snarky 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:18.560 or nasty about Donald Trump, it would ring the cash 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:21.800 register and they would get all of these small dollar 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:25.480 contributions from people all over the country. And that certainly 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:28.959 made them happy and it made them stars within that world. 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:32.520 But after they had done it a long period of time, 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:36.000 it seemed like they had absolutely no connection with the 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:39.360 people back at home at all, and the audience of 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:42.360 those two networks was the audience of people that they 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:45.400 were talking to exclusively, right. 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:47.960 I mean, it feels like a lot of these politicians 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:50.959 are you know, are constantly on social media. They're talking 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:54.280 to a social media audience. I mean, you go from 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:59.559 Gavin Newsom to Alexandria Cossio Cortes to Elon Omar, and 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:02.960 every thing they say is meant for a social media audience. 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:07.200 Everything they do is looking for clicks and likes. They're 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:11.560 not looking to actually achieve any progress. They're looking for 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:14.400 clicks and likes, and they're getting small, like you say, 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:17.680 they're getting small donations from a lot of people, and 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:21.800 they realize that they have become huge social media stars, 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:25.320 and with that social media status, all of a sudden, 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:29.840 without answering a single question, Gavin Newsom the same, all 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:32.000 of a sudden, you are in the thick of the 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:35.600 conversation for the presidential race. You look at the Democratic 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:38.040 side of this, right, you've got Gavin Newsom, You've got 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:41.800 Alexandria Cassio Cortez and a few others sprinkled in there. 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:45.439 Not because of what they've achieved, because their achievements are 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:48.800 few and far between, but because of the social media 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:51.840 followings they have and the number of clicks and likes 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:55.720 and the number of followers they have. That's what where 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:58.600 their status as far as running for president or higher 0:11:58.640 --> 0:12:01.520 office comes from. We live in a world now where 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:05.000 politicians have thought, you know what, the way to make 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:08.520 a name for yourself is not by achieving things for 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:12.120 your state or for your constituents. It's by getting more 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:15.800 clicks and more likes, and more followers and more money 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:19.160 rolling in. That's how you get name recognition, and that's 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:22.480 how you know. That's how you climb the ladder to 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:24.520 the highest office, and. 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:26.839 It gives them a certain amount of power too. I mean, 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:30.520 look at Katie Porter for example. Katie Porter makes her 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:34.080 money that way. She makes her money from haranguing people 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:38.600 with whiteboards and that's what rings the cash register for her. Well, okay, 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:43.160 if your donors are that decentralized, and you're not getting 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:46.319 your money from the regular places of the unions and 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:49.800 the Democratic Party power brokers and those sorts of things, 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:52.480 and the party doesn't want you to run for governor 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:55.360 or the party wants you to drop out, they can't 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:58.559 cut off your money supply because they're not the ones 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:02.120 that are providing it to So for a Betty Ye, 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:04.200 you can cut her money off because she gets it 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:08.680 from the usual places. But if you are a Katie Porter, 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:11.640 or even an Eric Swalwell who did the same thing 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:14.120 as Katie Porter, that's how he made a lot of 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:18.520 his campaign contributions, you have a more difficult time telling 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:21.520 them what to do because they're not getting their money 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:23.680 from you, So why should they take their orders from you? 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:27.160 Yeah, I think that's a fair assessment. But I also 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:28.920 think on the flip side of that, if you're an 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:30.920 Eric Swalwell, you kind of saw this in the past 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:33.360 couple of weeks. You're not getting your money, so you 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:35.360 don't really have to take your marching orders from the 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:38.959 unions and the donors that you used to even fifteen 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:42.120 twenty years ago. Now you know, you can go to 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:44.079 the social media world and you can get a lot 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:47.880 more money pouring in by using those techniques. But when 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:51.080 it comes to, you know, the meat of the meat 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:53.920 of the issue, like Eric Swalwell staying in the race 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:56.680 or getting kicked out of the race, that's when the 0:13:56.720 --> 0:14:00.440 Democratic machine in California really plays a party. You in 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:03.080 a prominent position so that they can push you. And 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:05.600 two they're the ones that say you can stay in 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:07.560 or you get out. I mean, you know, whatever you 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:10.679 think of the Eric Swalwell situation, you know they they 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:13.960 they time this because the last thing in the world 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:17.120 they wanted was for this whole thing to explode in 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:20.560 July and August and Eric swallow was going to have 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:23.520 to lead the race anyway, and boom, there goes the 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:26.360 Governor's office. That's the whole thing. They're stopping now, like 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:29.600 this thing's gonna come out. It's getting bad. The Chronicle 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:33.240 tips off the Pelosi regime and everybody else, and the 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:37.480 next thing you know, you've got real problems coming down 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:39.480 the pike, and you can get rid of them now, 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:43.360 and the machine in California can get swallowell out now, 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:45.520 or you can wait until it comes down in the 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:48.320 La Times and the Services Chronicle in three other papers 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:50.920 in mid June, and then all of a sudden it 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:54.200 becomes too late to come up with some remedy or 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:56.960 some tonic to fix this governor's race. So I think 0:14:57.000 --> 0:15:00.280 you're right that you get your money, you get your 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:04.960 support from outside, from the whole social media, you know, paradigm. 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:07.880 But I also believe that when it comes to when 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:10.920 it comes to the hard decisions, it's the machine. It's 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:15.160 the democratic machine in California that you know, pushed Gavin 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:17.840 Newsom up through the ranks and pushes a lot of 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:20.720 these candidates, the Adam Shifts and the Eric Swalwells through 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:23.480 the ranks. They are the ones that decide whether you 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:24.800 stay or whether you go. 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:29.880 Are you surprised that the machine turned not just on 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:32.520 Eric Swalwell so fast, but right before him, it was 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:36.160 Caesar Chavez, who was about as lionized as you could 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:39.160 possibly get in that world. And then it was like 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:42.000 a switch got flipped and they went from being the 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:47.080 most beloved person in the world to non existence overnight. 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:49.680 It happened to both of them over the course of 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:54.880 about a month. Did that shock you. 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:56.120 No, No, I mean not at all. You have this 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:59.040 this push where they four years said they were the 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:02.360 party we we believe all women. We are supporting all women. 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:05.040 Now forget about the women who are being executed in 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:08.280 Iran and other places. You know, we don't want to 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:10.320 that's that's a different pot. We don't want to take 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:12.280 out of that one because that, you know, that muddies 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:15.160 the water and takes the focus off the issue that 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:17.240 we really want to focus on, which is we are 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:20.080 anti Trump. So you don't want to say anything that 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:23.280 is you know, that is that is saying, well, Iran's 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:25.000 doing this thing wrong and we can't do that and 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:26.640 we got to go and do something. So that's out 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:29.760 of the picture. I think overall, when you look at 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:33.280 the Sayzar Chavez thing is you see, you saw these 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:37.320 accusations coming, and they've been coming for fifteen years. People 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:40.280 have been saying this for fifteen years. The Eric Squalwell thing. 0:16:40.520 --> 0:16:44.480 They've known this for years, and the media is saying, well, 0:16:44.520 --> 0:16:46.360 you know the reason we didn't run with it is 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:49.360 because we didn't have it confirmed. It didn't stop you 0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:54.600 from running with the sexual the sexual assault allegations against 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:57.080 Brett Kavanaugh when he was running, when he was you know, 0:16:57.120 --> 0:17:00.320 nominated for the Supreme Court. You used him then, you 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:03.120 didn't have them confirmed. You used them then, and you 0:17:03.200 --> 0:17:07.600 brought Eric Swalwell in to speak on those. So you know, 0:17:07.640 --> 0:17:10.840 they're just picking and choosing. They're picking and choosing when 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:13.680 they hit and when they don't. They know these things 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:16.000 were true. They know these things and Caesars Shavas were 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:18.800 true for I don't know how many years, and Swallwell 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:22.240 the same thing. They're just waiting for the right time 0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:26.040 politically to be able to say, see, we still stand 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:29.359 with women. See see their javs done. Tear down the statues, 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:33.440 get the school names off there. Eric Swawell, same thing done. 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:35.719 And everybody, and even as close as friends, are like, 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:38.000 oh yeah, well, I thought he was kind of flirty, 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:41.760 but I had no idea he was lying. Really really, 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:45.720 I mean, come on, are you kidding me? Everybody in 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:48.800 DC knew everybody in the media knew and this whole 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:52.600 we didn't have a confirm. Yeah, you get for him, 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:55.320 you didn't have a confirm. But if Eric Swall was 0:17:55.359 --> 0:18:01.000 a Republican boy, those non confirmation allegations would be would 0:18:01.040 --> 0:18:02.520 be fast and fear curious. 0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:05.920 What's the saying, where you stand depends on where you sit. 0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:10.240 That's right, That's exactly right, all. 0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:13.639 Right, Trace Gallagher Ager of Fox News at Night. It's 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:16.800 an excellent, excellent, excellent program. If you don't watch it, 0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:19.720 you definitely should. It's on the Fox News channel. My 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:22.000 friend Jen and her mother Janice watch you every night. 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:25.000 They're your biggest fans. Trace Gallagher, thanks so much for 0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:25.600 stopping by. 0:18:26.760 --> 0:18:28.400 Tell jan and Janis they are. 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:30.280 They're very sweet people. 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:31.080 We appreciate that. 0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:32.119 Thank you, John, I appreciate it. 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:35.679 All right, Well, I'll be watching tonight, Trace Gallagher. Everyone, 0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:42.160 let's go to Clifton in Vallejo. Clifton, Hello, what's going on? 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:45.800 John and Randy Man Top of the day to you guys. 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:46.120 Man. 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:51.880 What I wanted to speak about, which got not too 0:18:51.920 --> 0:19:01.040 many people even bring up, is the devalueization of American citizens. Okay, 0:19:01.520 --> 0:19:02.080 now I'm. 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:05.320 Gonna go back to a Bible verse or a Bible 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:10.720 story where when Paul was in prison, they had him 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:13.480 chained up or whatever. They were about to chop his 0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:20.800 head off, a stone him, or do whatever, and the 0:19:20.840 --> 0:19:23.359 only thing that saved him because they thought he was 0:19:23.400 --> 0:19:26.120 a Jew. They thought he was a Jew, and he. 0:19:26.119 --> 0:19:28.720 Said, no, you can't do that to me. I'm a 0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:31.720 Roman citizen. You got to take me the wrong. You 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:36.920 understand what I'm saying. That's when citizenship have value. If 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:41.280 you look at those people in the TSA lines and 0:19:41.440 --> 0:19:46.080 all of that, they are subjects. They're not citizens because 0:19:46.080 --> 0:19:50.880 if they were citizens, their government would be taking care 0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:55.399 of them and making the accommodations for them to be 0:19:56.480 --> 0:19:57.520 where they need to go. 0:19:59.400 --> 0:20:01.480 All right, thank you for the call. Cliff at eight 0:20:01.560 --> 0:20:04.359 hundred two two two five two two two is the 0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:08.400 telephone number one eight hundred two two five two two two. 0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:11.080 If you'd like to email the show, you can do 0:20:11.119 --> 0:20:14.000 so at Johnny don't like show at gmail dot com. 0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:19.080 That's Johnny don't like show at gmail dot com. And Randy, 0:20:19.240 --> 0:20:21.560 are the Katie Parter emails still rolling in? 0:20:22.320 --> 0:20:25.800 I can't read any of them, but yes, when you 0:20:25.920 --> 0:20:28.439 put out the topic of is there one question that 0:20:28.480 --> 0:20:31.080 you would ask one of the candidates for governor. All 0:20:31.119 --> 0:20:35.120 of the calls that came in were actually fairly respectful questions. 0:20:35.680 --> 0:20:42.560 The emails were not, So let your imagination run wild. 0:20:44.760 --> 0:20:47.280 Since we've crossed the halfway point of today's show, if 0:20:47.280 --> 0:20:49.199 you want to continue listening to us, you after we 0:20:49.240 --> 0:20:51.760 sign off at three, Randy, that's easy to do. If 0:20:51.800 --> 0:20:54.440 you need more than three hours this nonsense a day, 0:20:54.880 --> 0:20:56.359 you might need to go to a meeting. But in 0:20:56.400 --> 0:20:59.560 the meantime, get your fixed with the podcast. 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