Speaker 1: And we continue at one five in the afternoon on
Speaker 1: the John Phillips Show, Mister Randy Wiggs in Culver City.
Speaker 2: John, it's a right of passage in the California's governor's race.
Speaker 2: Everybody has to do it at least once, and it
Speaker 2: was finally Tom Steyer's turn to put on the gas
Speaker 2: mask and get into the Tijuana River.
Speaker 3: The fact that we're standing here with gas mask sign
Speaker 3: should explain that this is a health emergency.
Speaker 4: The longer we wait, the worse this gas.
Speaker 1: He sounds like Darth Vader.
Speaker 4: You can smell it right here.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: You would think that given the fact that part of
Speaker 1: the deal of running for governor is that you have
Speaker 1: to go tour the Tijuana River, you would imagine that
Speaker 1: that in and of itself would call the field.
Speaker 2: Everyone's doing it. Everyone wants this job so bad they're
Speaker 2: jumping in the sewage.
Speaker 4: The fact that we're standing here with gas mass on.
Speaker 1: They all look like they're at Chernobyl, and not one
Speaker 1: of them will criticize the current governor for doing nothing
Speaker 1: on this. And they're willing to do anything that it
Speaker 1: takes to clean up that river, except asking Mexico to
Speaker 1: stop dumping raw sewage directly into it.
Speaker 4: You can smart right here.
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Speaker 1: It is our pleasure and welcome our next guest to
Speaker 1: the program. You watch him each and every weeknight on
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Speaker 1: Trace Gallagher, Trace Gallagher, Welcome, it's.
Speaker 6: Great to be here.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 6: You know, I had no idea that to run for
Speaker 6: governor of California head to jump in the Tijuana River,
Speaker 6: but I think that's uh, it's fascinating the stuff you
Speaker 6: learn on this show.
Speaker 5: Job really is now.
Speaker 1: So far, no one's been batteries there, but give it time.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 4: I haven't don't.
Speaker 6: I don't know if Steve Hilton has jumped in the
Speaker 6: Tijuana River, but I'm guessing probably not. But well, I'll
Speaker 6: ask him next time he's on the show.
Speaker 1: You know, there are certain advantages that could come from that,
Speaker 1: because if Steve Hilton were to have a third arm,
Speaker 1: he could shake more hands.
Speaker 6: Mm hmmm, he could he could and listen. You know,
Speaker 6: Steve Hilton really is I mean, you know, I think
Speaker 6: you look at the latest numbers and he's kind of
Speaker 6: holding his own.
Speaker 7: A lot of people would.
Speaker 6: Say, oh, no, uncle's gonna I think Steve Hilton's kind
Speaker 6: of holding his own so far, even with you know,
Speaker 6: even the early results of Swallwell falling out of this
Speaker 6: thing or leaving this thing, Steve Hilton looks like for
Speaker 6: the time being, he's.
Speaker 4: Uh, he tends to be holding his own.
Speaker 6: But we'll see in the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: So, the big news yesterday was that former state Controller
Speaker 1: Betty E announced that she would be dropping out of
Speaker 1: the rays. She was at one percent the polls, so
Speaker 1: I don't think it'll impact the other candidates much as
Speaker 1: it did when Eric Swalwell dropped out after earning somewhere
Speaker 1: between ten and thirteen percent in the polls. But I'll
Speaker 1: tell you, I don't know if you saw the interview
Speaker 1: that she did with Nicki Lorenzo after she dropped out,
Speaker 1: but I sense this resentment from so many of the
Speaker 1: candidates and the single digits, whether it's her or Tony
Speaker 1: Thurman or Antoniolvia Ragosa. And you could even make the
Speaker 1: argument that it applies to Matt Mahon two, and that
Speaker 1: is those candidates seem to be the candidates who, well,
Speaker 1: I disagree with their proposals for how to deal with it.
Speaker 1: They do understand the complexities of California government, California politics.
Speaker 1: They've been in the trenches for many years. And the
Speaker 1: Democrats who have been pulling the best, whether it be
Speaker 1: Tom Steyer or Eric Swalwell or Katie Porter now Javier Bsera,
Speaker 1: they come from the federal government, they come from the
Speaker 1: private sector, They come from places other than state politics.
Speaker 1: And when you see them do an interview where state
Speaker 1: politics comes up and they get asked very specific questions
Speaker 1: about the bullet train or the insurance crisis, or crime
Speaker 1: or homelessness or whatever, they have a very surface level
Speaker 1: understanding of those subjects. And then they switch it to
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. They start talking about Trump, they start talking
Speaker 1: about ice because that's what they know about, that's what
Speaker 1: they care about. And the candidates who can't break out
Speaker 1: of those single digits seem to know the most about
Speaker 1: the subject matter. But right now, that's not what Democratic
Speaker 1: primary voters are buying. And I do believe there's a
Speaker 1: sense of resentment that exists within that field, which is
Speaker 1: part of the reason that they're not dropping out.
Speaker 6: And part of it is, you know that they believe
Speaker 6: that that's kind of a way to go, and you're right,
Speaker 6: they don't. You look at Katie Porter and Eric Swalwell
Speaker 6: and you ask them questions, you interview them, and then
Speaker 6: you're not getting solid answers. You're getting just snark because
Speaker 6: they've seen that that's how it's handled.
Speaker 1: At the top.
Speaker 6: You know, you ask Gavin news In the same questions
Speaker 6: about his state, and you will get his press office
Speaker 6: and they will send you some snarky response some you know,
Speaker 6: they'll f off whatever they say. That's kind of what
Speaker 6: these federal you know, lawmakers and so on and so forth.
Speaker 6: That's where they see that this is the way to
Speaker 6: run this race. So they don't really need to get
Speaker 6: involved in the topics. They don't need to amesh themselves
Speaker 6: in exactly what California politics needs at this point in time.
Speaker 6: They just play the game. They play the game where
Speaker 6: they've got name recognition and they're doing the same thing
Speaker 6: the governor's doing. You look at Antonio via Ragosa and
Speaker 6: he was coming out what last week and he was
Speaker 6: kind of explaining the gas prices and instead of you
Speaker 6: know Gavin Newsom's oh, this is Trump's fault and swallwell,
Speaker 6: this is Trump's fault. He was coming out saying, not
Speaker 6: Trump's fault. And here's how the gap and the California
Speaker 6: gas prices are so high, here's the reason they're high.
Speaker 6: Here's what we need to do to make these prices
Speaker 6: go down. And it has nothing going to do with Iran.
Speaker 6: Maybe a little bit because of the oil prices going up,
Speaker 6: but the main factor in all of this is California's fault.
Speaker 6: California did all of these things to itself, and you
Speaker 6: need someone like Antonio Villa Ragosa to come out and
Speaker 6: exactly explain, explain this whole thing and say, hey, listen,
Speaker 6: this is what we need to do to fix this.
Speaker 6: And you're right, he's not pulling very well. So maybe
Speaker 6: the answer really is just to ignore the questions and
Speaker 6: play the hate Trump game.
Speaker 1: How much of that do you think is strategy? And
Speaker 1: how much of that do you think is they're the
Speaker 1: kid that didn't read the book that's trying to do
Speaker 1: the book report. And I say that because I think
Speaker 1: with Newsom he's different from the others. I think he
Speaker 1: understands California and he understands California politics and government, but
Speaker 1: he's an absentee landlord at this point. He's running for
Speaker 1: president and he's just not engaged. When he was engaged,
Speaker 1: he could talk about those subjects. I disagree, agree with him,
Speaker 1: but he could have the conversation. I get the impression
Speaker 1: that with the others, they're the kids that didn't read
Speaker 1: the book, that are trying to pass the book report,
Speaker 1: and if you ask them any questions beyond those very
Speaker 1: surface level questions, it's crash and burn. The way that
Speaker 1: Javier Besserra's interview was with Alex Michaelson on Fox eleven
Speaker 1: when he first announced that he was running for governor,
Speaker 1: it was a train wreck. I mean, this is a
Speaker 1: guy who didn't read the newspaper before he sat down
Speaker 1: for that interview, and he's running for governor.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're right.
Speaker 6: I mean, I think a lot of these candidates, you know,
Speaker 6: they haven't really done their homework. They haven't read the book,
Speaker 6: and you can see that, but I don't I think
Speaker 6: they really believe that that's not the way that you
Speaker 6: get to the governor's office anymore. And I would disagree.
Speaker 6: I think Gavin Newsom going all the way back to COVID.
Speaker 6: I mean I would watch his news conferences and Gavin
Speaker 6: Newsom quite frankly, did not know the topics of the day.
Speaker 6: Gavin Newsom wasn't up to speed on what was happening
Speaker 6: with the whole COVID thing. He was just giving talking points.
Speaker 6: He would say meet the moment nineteen times in a
Speaker 6: news conference and wouldn't tell you anything about what's going on,
Speaker 6: what's the state is doing, what's the process of the
Speaker 6: schools shutting down and reopening, what's the process with masking
Speaker 6: and so on. He didn't have those answers. So, you know,
Speaker 6: my guess, my takeaway from Gavin Newson was always that
Speaker 6: he was, you know, he was kind of semi playing
Speaker 6: the role. He didn't really know the day to day topics.
Speaker 6: And even when you listened to him last week or
Speaker 6: two weeks ago, he's saying the same things. He's just
Speaker 6: giving you not very thorough answers. And when he pressed
Speaker 6: you press him on something, he goes right to Trump,
Speaker 6: he goes right to the federal government. Right, it's the
Speaker 6: fraud thing, where Gavin Newsom's like, well, it's about time
Speaker 6: the federal government's cleaning up their own mess. This is
Speaker 6: all federal dollars. He knows it's under his watch. He
Speaker 6: knows that this is a mess that his state created
Speaker 6: in he has just sat there and watched it flourish,
Speaker 6: and he's not gonna, you know, he's not going to
Speaker 6: put himself in jeopardy. So he blames Trump.
Speaker 4: But on a lot of.
Speaker 6: These issues, you get the feeling he doesn't quite know
Speaker 6: where to kind of where to pivot so that he
Speaker 6: can give you some proper answers, and instead he figures
Speaker 6: half the state's not really paying attention anyway, so you
Speaker 6: just give him the you know, you give them the
Speaker 6: anti Trump thing, and they're happy and there you go,
Speaker 6: off we go.
Speaker 1: One of the things I learned when I was working
Speaker 1: over at CNN as an analyst and you'd see these
Speaker 1: politicians in the green room and they would be regulars,
Speaker 1: not just usually on CNN, usually they did CNN, they
Speaker 1: did MSNBC two, and they were regulars on both of
Speaker 1: those channels is that over time they started to blur
Speaker 1: the lines and forget just exactly who their constituents were
Speaker 1: and who that audience was. And it wasn't like you
Speaker 1: could tell there was a snap of the fingers and
Speaker 1: they just suddenly had amnesia and forgot who the voters
Speaker 1: were back at home. But you could see over time
Speaker 1: their answers catered to that audience and the fact that
Speaker 1: every time they would go on and say something snarky
Speaker 1: or nasty about Donald Trump, it would ring the cash
Speaker 1: register and they would get all of these small dollar
Speaker 1: contributions from people all over the country. And that certainly
Speaker 1: made them happy and it made them stars within that world.
Speaker 1: But after they had done it a long period of time,
Speaker 1: it seemed like they had absolutely no connection with the
Speaker 1: people back at home at all, and the audience of
Speaker 1: those two networks was the audience of people that they
Speaker 1: were talking to exclusively, right.
Speaker 6: I mean, it feels like a lot of these politicians
Speaker 6: are you know, are constantly on social media. They're talking
Speaker 6: to a social media audience. I mean, you go from
Speaker 6: Gavin Newsom to Alexandria Cossio Cortes to Elon Omar, and
Speaker 6: every thing they say is meant for a social media audience.
Speaker 6: Everything they do is looking for clicks and likes. They're
Speaker 6: not looking to actually achieve any progress. They're looking for
Speaker 6: clicks and likes, and they're getting small, like you say,
Speaker 6: they're getting small donations from a lot of people, and
Speaker 6: they realize that they have become huge social media stars,
Speaker 6: and with that social media status, all of a sudden,
Speaker 6: without answering a single question, Gavin Newsom the same, all
Speaker 6: of a sudden, you are in the thick of the
Speaker 6: conversation for the presidential race. You look at the Democratic
Speaker 6: side of this, right, you've got Gavin Newsom, You've got
Speaker 6: Alexandria Cassio Cortez and a few others sprinkled in there.
Speaker 6: Not because of what they've achieved, because their achievements are
Speaker 6: few and far between, but because of the social media
Speaker 6: followings they have and the number of clicks and likes
Speaker 6: and the number of followers they have. That's what where
Speaker 6: their status as far as running for president or higher
Speaker 6: office comes from. We live in a world now where
Speaker 6: politicians have thought, you know what, the way to make
Speaker 6: a name for yourself is not by achieving things for
Speaker 6: your state or for your constituents. It's by getting more
Speaker 6: clicks and more likes, and more followers and more money
Speaker 6: rolling in. That's how you get name recognition, and that's
Speaker 6: how you know. That's how you climb the ladder to
Speaker 6: the highest office, and.
Speaker 1: It gives them a certain amount of power too. I mean,
Speaker 1: look at Katie Porter for example. Katie Porter makes her
Speaker 1: money that way. She makes her money from haranguing people
Speaker 1: with whiteboards and that's what rings the cash register for her. Well, okay,
Speaker 1: if your donors are that decentralized, and you're not getting
Speaker 1: your money from the regular places of the unions and
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party power brokers and those sorts of things,
Speaker 1: and the party doesn't want you to run for governor
Speaker 1: or the party wants you to drop out, they can't
Speaker 1: cut off your money supply because they're not the ones
Speaker 1: that are providing it to So for a Betty Ye,
Speaker 1: you can cut her money off because she gets it
Speaker 1: from the usual places. But if you are a Katie Porter,
Speaker 1: or even an Eric Swalwell who did the same thing
Speaker 1: as Katie Porter, that's how he made a lot of
Speaker 1: his campaign contributions, you have a more difficult time telling
Speaker 1: them what to do because they're not getting their money
Speaker 1: from you, So why should they take their orders from you?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's a fair assessment. But I also
Speaker 6: think on the flip side of that, if you're an
Speaker 6: Eric Swalwell, you kind of saw this in the past
Speaker 6: couple of weeks. You're not getting your money, so you
Speaker 6: don't really have to take your marching orders from the
Speaker 6: unions and the donors that you used to even fifteen
Speaker 6: twenty years ago. Now you know, you can go to
Speaker 6: the social media world and you can get a lot
Speaker 6: more money pouring in by using those techniques. But when
Speaker 6: it comes to, you know, the meat of the meat
Speaker 6: of the issue, like Eric Swalwell staying in the race
Speaker 6: or getting kicked out of the race, that's when the
Speaker 6: Democratic machine in California really plays a party. You in
Speaker 6: a prominent position so that they can push you. And
Speaker 6: two they're the ones that say you can stay in
Speaker 6: or you get out. I mean, you know, whatever you
Speaker 6: think of the Eric Swalwell situation, you know they they
Speaker 6: they time this because the last thing in the world
Speaker 6: they wanted was for this whole thing to explode in
Speaker 6: July and August and Eric swallow was going to have
Speaker 6: to lead the race anyway, and boom, there goes the
Speaker 6: Governor's office. That's the whole thing. They're stopping now, like
Speaker 6: this thing's gonna come out. It's getting bad. The Chronicle
Speaker 6: tips off the Pelosi regime and everybody else, and the
Speaker 6: next thing you know, you've got real problems coming down
Speaker 6: the pike, and you can get rid of them now,
Speaker 6: and the machine in California can get swallowell out now,
Speaker 6: or you can wait until it comes down in the
Speaker 6: La Times and the Services Chronicle in three other papers
Speaker 6: in mid June, and then all of a sudden it
Speaker 6: becomes too late to come up with some remedy or
Speaker 6: some tonic to fix this governor's race. So I think
Speaker 6: you're right that you get your money, you get your
Speaker 6: support from outside, from the whole social media, you know, paradigm.
Speaker 6: But I also believe that when it comes to when
Speaker 6: it comes to the hard decisions, it's the machine. It's
Speaker 6: the democratic machine in California that you know, pushed Gavin
Speaker 6: Newsom up through the ranks and pushes a lot of
Speaker 6: these candidates, the Adam Shifts and the Eric Swalwells through
Speaker 6: the ranks. They are the ones that decide whether you
Speaker 6: stay or whether you go.
Speaker 1: Are you surprised that the machine turned not just on
Speaker 1: Eric Swalwell so fast, but right before him, it was
Speaker 1: Caesar Chavez, who was about as lionized as you could
Speaker 1: possibly get in that world. And then it was like
Speaker 1: a switch got flipped and they went from being the
Speaker 1: most beloved person in the world to non existence overnight.
Speaker 1: It happened to both of them over the course of
Speaker 1: about a month. Did that shock you.
Speaker 6: No, No, I mean not at all. You have this
Speaker 6: this push where they four years said they were the
Speaker 6: party we we believe all women. We are supporting all women.
Speaker 6: Now forget about the women who are being executed in
Speaker 6: Iran and other places. You know, we don't want to
Speaker 6: that's that's a different pot. We don't want to take
Speaker 6: out of that one because that, you know, that muddies
Speaker 6: the water and takes the focus off the issue that
Speaker 6: we really want to focus on, which is we are
Speaker 6: anti Trump. So you don't want to say anything that
Speaker 6: is you know, that is that is saying, well, Iran's
Speaker 6: doing this thing wrong and we can't do that and
Speaker 6: we got to go and do something. So that's out
Speaker 6: of the picture. I think overall, when you look at
Speaker 6: the Sayzar Chavez thing is you see, you saw these
Speaker 6: accusations coming, and they've been coming for fifteen years. People
Speaker 6: have been saying this for fifteen years. The Eric Squalwell thing.
Speaker 6: They've known this for years, and the media is saying, well,
Speaker 6: you know the reason we didn't run with it is
Speaker 6: because we didn't have it confirmed. It didn't stop you
Speaker 6: from running with the sexual the sexual assault allegations against
Speaker 6: Brett Kavanaugh when he was running, when he was you know,
Speaker 6: nominated for the Supreme Court. You used him then, you
Speaker 6: didn't have them confirmed. You used them then, and you
Speaker 6: brought Eric Swalwell in to speak on those. So you know,
Speaker 6: they're just picking and choosing. They're picking and choosing when
Speaker 6: they hit and when they don't. They know these things
Speaker 6: were true. They know these things and Caesars Shavas were
Speaker 6: true for I don't know how many years, and Swallwell
Speaker 6: the same thing. They're just waiting for the right time
Speaker 6: politically to be able to say, see, we still stand
Speaker 6: with women. See see their javs done. Tear down the statues,
Speaker 6: get the school names off there. Eric Swawell, same thing done.
Speaker 6: And everybody, and even as close as friends, are like,
Speaker 6: oh yeah, well, I thought he was kind of flirty,
Speaker 6: but I had no idea he was lying. Really really,
Speaker 6: I mean, come on, are you kidding me? Everybody in
Speaker 6: DC knew everybody in the media knew and this whole
Speaker 6: we didn't have a confirm. Yeah, you get for him,
Speaker 6: you didn't have a confirm. But if Eric Swall was
Speaker 6: a Republican boy, those non confirmation allegations would be would
Speaker 6: be fast and fear curious.
Speaker 1: What's the saying, where you stand depends on where you sit.
Speaker 7: That's right, That's exactly right, all.
Speaker 1: Right, Trace Gallagher Ager of Fox News at Night. It's
Speaker 1: an excellent, excellent, excellent program. If you don't watch it,
Speaker 1: you definitely should. It's on the Fox News channel. My
Speaker 1: friend Jen and her mother Janice watch you every night.
Speaker 1: They're your biggest fans. Trace Gallagher, thanks so much for
Speaker 1: stopping by.
Speaker 7: Tell jan and Janis they are.
Speaker 6: They're very sweet people.
Speaker 7: We appreciate that.
Speaker 6: Thank you, John, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, I'll be watching tonight, Trace Gallagher. Everyone,
Speaker 1: let's go to Clifton in Vallejo. Clifton, Hello, what's going on?
Speaker 5: John and Randy Man Top of the day to you guys.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 5: What I wanted to speak about, which got not too
Speaker 5: many people even bring up, is the devalueization of American citizens. Okay,
Speaker 5: now I'm.
Speaker 8: Gonna go back to a Bible verse or a Bible
Speaker 8: story where when Paul was in prison, they had him
Speaker 8: chained up or whatever. They were about to chop his
Speaker 8: head off, a stone him, or do whatever, and the
Speaker 8: only thing that saved him because they thought he was
Speaker 8: a Jew. They thought he was a Jew, and he.
Speaker 5: Said, no, you can't do that to me. I'm a
Speaker 5: Roman citizen. You got to take me the wrong. You
Speaker 5: understand what I'm saying. That's when citizenship have value. If
Speaker 5: you look at those people in the TSA lines and
Speaker 5: all of that, they are subjects. They're not citizens because
Speaker 5: if they were citizens, their government would be taking care
Speaker 5: of them and making the accommodations for them to be
Speaker 5: where they need to go.
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Speaker 1: are the Katie Parter emails still rolling in?
Speaker 2: I can't read any of them, but yes, when you
Speaker 2: put out the topic of is there one question that
Speaker 2: you would ask one of the candidates for governor. All
Speaker 2: of the calls that came in were actually fairly respectful questions.
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Speaker 1: As you mentioned before, Tom Steyer is the latest candidate
Speaker 1: for governor to make his own pilgrimage to the Tijuana River.
Speaker 4: You can smart right here.
Speaker 2: He put out a two minute YouTube video on the
Speaker 2: Tom Styer channel talking about the dj River.
Speaker 3: The fact that we're standing here with gas mass on
Speaker 3: should explain that this is a health emergency The longer
Speaker 3: we wait, the worse this death.
Speaker 1: It's bain. You know what he should have done. He
Speaker 1: should have thrown a pebble into the body of water,
Speaker 1: like Opie did on the opening of the Andy Grippthshell.
Speaker 3: The fact that we're standing here with gas mass on
Speaker 3: should explain that this is a health emergency.
Speaker 4: The longer we wait, the worse this dets.
Speaker 2: That is Yeah, that sounds straight out of the third
Speaker 2: Batman movie with Christopher Nolan.
Speaker 1: Hey, I thought that Newsom was Batman. Yeah, but this
Speaker 1: is bane.
Speaker 9: That is a Tijuana river. You see it flowing, I do.
Speaker 9: That's not rainwater.
Speaker 1: That's you don't say that.
Speaker 9: Is a Tijuana river. You see it flowing, I do.
Speaker 9: That's not rainwater. That's concentrated toxic shoot chemicals, heavy metals,
Speaker 9: pathogens and everything you can imagine.
Speaker 1: There were certain things she didn't want to mention. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wonder what the editing process was like when this
Speaker 1: was produced.
Speaker 4: You can smell it right here. Often.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, we're getting serious.
Speaker 9: It's way worse than Flint, Michigan. It's way worse than
Speaker 9: the Aaron Brockovich.
Speaker 2: Case, and way worse than the PG and E disaster
Speaker 2: or the other PG and E disaster or the other
Speaker 2: PG and E disaster.
Speaker 1: Hey, that made Julia Roberts a lot of money.
Speaker 9: And this is all flowing freely into the ocean, contaminating
Speaker 9: our beaches and contaminating our air.
Speaker 2: By the way, Tom Steyer, who's been an environmental activist
Speaker 2: for the past fifteen years, how has he never talked
Speaker 2: about this situation before? I wonder if the hazmat suit
Speaker 2: is legit or it's a prop. I would hope it's
Speaker 2: legit because he's about to be on the stage with
Speaker 2: all the other candidates and hopefully he didn't catch something
Speaker 2: in that river.
Speaker 1: Do you think when he walks into a room he
Speaker 1: has to flip the light switch or he can just
Speaker 1: wave his hand and the lights will turn on.
Speaker 10: So when we think about environmentalism, when we think about health,
Speaker 10: when we think about justice, this is a perfect example
Speaker 10: of something.
Speaker 2: All Right, during the break, I'm gonna download some Baine
Speaker 2: and we're gonna go back and forth.
Speaker 1: I love the fact that everyone goes down there and
Speaker 1: is horrified, but no one has the backbone to tell
Speaker 1: Mexico to cut it out. Well, and you now have
Speaker 1: one of the supervisors down there Geary. She's going off
Speaker 1: on Gavin for completely ignoring this issue. I don't even
Speaker 1: think when Gavin ran for governor, he went down there.
Speaker 1: Do you think Gavin wants his picture taken next to
Speaker 1: that bloated river?
Speaker 4: You can smell it right here.
Speaker 10: So when we think about environmentalism, when we think about health,
Speaker 10: and we think about justice, this is a perfect example
Speaker 10: of something. But Weed's urgent redress.
Speaker 6: For eight thousand different gases are coming out of that
Speaker 6: hot spot. Didn't enders a soul fife, which is a
Speaker 6: toxic your gas.
Speaker 11: Think about it.
Speaker 2: There was a report from NBC seven last week. We
Speaker 2: didn't get to it, but at some point we might
Speaker 2: where the acceptable amount of particles of gas that's considered
Speaker 2: toxic hydrogen sulfide the state allows for like point zero
Speaker 2: zero zero one for every thousand what have you. It's
Speaker 2: like seven hundred times the acceptable amount. It's so insane
Speaker 2: that nobody seems to care about this.
Speaker 5: If we think of by their school districts, a more
Speaker 5: wealthier afflite area, I'm not ready to put up with
Speaker 5: what your kids have to put up a potato.
Speaker 1: This is the greatest environmental disasters.
Speaker 2: Having that guy said it's the greatest environmental disaster we've
Speaker 2: ever seen in this country. But it was hard to
Speaker 2: hear him because he was drowned out by the music.
Speaker 1: And I think living next that river for a long
Speaker 1: time gave him gills.
Speaker 11: You have to ask why this hasn't been interested and
Speaker 11: it's impossible not to notice this is the low income
Speaker 11: Latino community.
Speaker 1: Oh so now we're conjecting race into this, Okay, but
Speaker 1: it's racist to tell Mexico to knock it off. So
Speaker 1: it's also racist to let them pollute all the Latino
Speaker 1: neighborhoods in San Diego County.
Speaker 11: Why this hasn't been interest and it's impossible not to
Speaker 11: notice this is a low income Latino community. And that's
Speaker 11: outrageous and that makes me furious because this is that a.
Speaker 1: Baby crying in the background. I'm so confused. It sounds
Speaker 1: like I hope that baby's not going for a swim.
Speaker 11: And that's outrageous and that makes me furious because this
Speaker 11: is environmental injustice, structural intentional environmental injustice. And you can
Speaker 11: literally see it, smell it, and feel it.
Speaker 1: Maybe the baby's mother's washing or clothes in.
Speaker 11: The river, and you can literally see it, smell it,
Speaker 11: and feel.
Speaker 1: It Tom's tire for governor everybody. So since no one
Speaker 1: in Sacramento will do anything about it, the students in
Speaker 1: the area have formed a town hall where they can
Speaker 1: debate it. Here is what.
Speaker 2: Coronado students have to say about the Tijuana River. Here
Speaker 2: is a report from NBCC in San Diego in just
Speaker 2: about two hours.
Speaker 12: Some newer voices in the South Bay hope to rally
Speaker 12: more people to help solve the decades old raw sewage
Speaker 12: crisis along our border.
Speaker 1: But you see, this is where the Democrats are paralyzed
Speaker 1: because race is part of everything that they see. So
Speaker 1: you can't tell Mexico to knock it off because that's racist.
Speaker 1: So they pollute all the poor Latino neighborhoods in the
Speaker 1: United States, and that's racist. So what they need to
Speaker 1: do is they need to figure out a way to
Speaker 1: purify the river water before it hits the poor Latino
Speaker 1: communities without telling Mexico to stop polluting the river. That's
Speaker 1: the only non racist way they can fight this.
Speaker 2: As NBC seven South Bay reporter Joe Little shows us,
Speaker 2: these advocates don't want to wait and they hope that
Speaker 2: someone else fixes it.
Speaker 13: The forum begins at six point thirty right here inside
Speaker 13: the Imperial Beach Public Library. Organizers tell me they're trying
Speaker 13: to reach people who amazingly still don't understand what's going on.
Speaker 1: They just think it's them that smells that bad. Get
Speaker 1: some deodor run.
Speaker 14: It's shocking to me that people can live in such
Speaker 14: terrible conditions and not know the root causes.
Speaker 13: The root causes for the nasty smell in the air,
Speaker 13: the root causes keeping people out of the ocean.
Speaker 14: It sucks when something so terrible is happening in your backyard.
Speaker 13: That's why Cornado High School senior Sean Wilbur and the
Speaker 13: Stop the Sewage Group organize the forum Monday night, featuring
Speaker 13: young activists, local leaders, and scientists.
Speaker 14: We want to be able to give the community the
Speaker 14: information they need to be able to take action so
Speaker 14: that they know it tomorrow.
Speaker 13: Sean and his fellow students from around the region want
Speaker 13: people to know the problem extends from the Tijuana River Valley.
Speaker 1: Stinking up the entire Imperial Beach area. That should be
Speaker 1: very expensive primo land, but it's not because this river
Speaker 1: of raw sewage is causing it to smell like a
Speaker 1: sewage treatment facility for the.
Speaker 13: Ocean from Imperial Beach to Coronado, all the.
Speaker 14: Way up here. We can feel it. We want to
Speaker 14: educate anybody and everybody.
Speaker 13: That means also taking the fight from the South Bay
Speaker 13: to Sacramento. For a fourth time, Sean and other young
Speaker 13: advocates are headed to the ga.
Speaker 2: They've gone up to Sacramento to preach their cause for
Speaker 2: four years and nothing.
Speaker 1: Welcome to California politics, kids for a fourth time.
Speaker 2: For as much as this state wants to talk about
Speaker 2: how environmental they are, nobody seems to care. Not the state,
Speaker 2: not the federal government, or the current administration, or the
Speaker 2: last administration or the one before that or the one
Speaker 2: before that.
Speaker 1: Nobody cares.
Speaker 13: Yes, for a fourth time, Sean and other young advocates
Speaker 13: are headed to the Capitol next week to lobby lawmakers
Speaker 13: for help. Their last trip was in January.
Speaker 14: We're trying to make noise, We're trying to pull levers,
Speaker 14: and it takes a lot to get no You should do.
Speaker 2: You should get a big bucket, fill it up with
Speaker 2: what's in that river, seal it, bring it up to Sacramento,
Speaker 2: open up the lid, and every single member of the
Speaker 2: legislature can take a whiff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's a real good way to get put
Speaker 1: on the no fly.
Speaker 14: List, and it takes a lot to get over the
Speaker 14: hurdle of government and action.
Speaker 13: Government in action. It's hard to argue against that. For decades,
Speaker 13: this pollution has been allowed to plow through the river valley,
Speaker 13: destroying the environment, crippling the economy, and threatening the health
Speaker 13: of thousands.
Speaker 14: We know no one, single thing. It's going to be
Speaker 14: the silver bullet here.
Speaker 1: Yes, help, yes, yes, we know what the silver bullet is.
Speaker 1: Hell Mexico to knock it off. And if they don't
Speaker 1: knock it off, pull their money, or go kill another
Speaker 1: drug lord. Whatever it is that you have to do
Speaker 1: to send a message, but it.
Speaker 13: Helps letting people know about the root causes plaguing their community.
Speaker 14: Again, make noise and fulsome There you go.
Speaker 2: The kids are trying to plead their case. Please, Sacramento,
Speaker 2: please pay attention to the Tijuana River.
Speaker 1: Let's go to stand in Orange stand Hello.
Speaker 7: Hey, mister Fellows, mister Wang. Yeah, Hey, I'm an old guy.
Speaker 7: I grew up in San Diego and I first became
Speaker 7: aware of the Tijuana River back in nineteen seventy. A
Speaker 7: little aside, Pat Nixon I dedicated. It was a border
Speaker 7: field park. I think I was one of Kelifie. It
Speaker 7: was one of them. It was a state park. It
Speaker 7: was right on the border there. I went to saw
Speaker 7: Pat Flann in a helicopter and rode my motorcycle down there.
Speaker 7: But that was a disaster even beginning back then, you know,
Speaker 7: Tijuana was small and so it wasn't that much of
Speaker 7: an issue, but there were still issues with the ross
Speaker 7: sewage coming down. And you know, now Tijuana is probably
Speaker 7: bigger than San Diego, and it's it's you know, there
Speaker 7: used to be dairies down there, you know, but those
Speaker 7: are those are well agne. They couldn't they couldn't benefit
Speaker 7: of the extra fertilizer. But as far as so, that's
Speaker 7: what fifty years, nobody's done a damn thing about it.
Speaker 7: You know, everybody jumps up and down and screams and yells.
Speaker 7: You know, if Stire is such an environmentalists and cares
Speaker 7: so much about it, half him cough up the bucks
Speaker 7: and we'll build a nice pollution plan on our side
Speaker 7: of the border and take care of it, or like
Speaker 7: you said, squeeze Mexico. But Mexico is a failed third
Speaker 7: world country. They're not going to do anything about it
Speaker 7: unless you cut the money off, and that might change
Speaker 7: the situation. But it's a it's a mess. It probably
Speaker 7: is one of the most polluted sites in the whole country.
Speaker 7: It's you know, Tom, write your check, do something about it.
Speaker 7: Have Katie kick in, you know, I mean, what are
Speaker 7: you going to do? Everybody just sits in, screams and
Speaker 7: yells about it. Nothing ever happens.
Speaker 1: Well, Katie doesn't scream about it, but she does talk
Speaker 1: about it. It's an interesting point though, that Stan brings up.
Speaker 1: You think about how much money Tom Steyer has spent
Speaker 1: running for governor. That one hundred plus million dollars probably
Speaker 1: could have cleaned this up. Hey Katie, do you have
Speaker 1: anything to say about this river?
Speaker 4: You can smell right here.
Speaker 1: That's what I thought. Thank you for the call, sir.
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Speaker 1: This is my dream. You now have Tom Steyer saying
Speaker 1: you can smell it and taste it and feel.
Speaker 11: It structural, intentional, and you can literally see it, smell
Speaker 11: it and feel it.
Speaker 2: In addition, of course to the Katie Porter drop, you
Speaker 2: can smell it right here. Once we get all the
Speaker 2: candidates to comment on the smell of the water, you
Speaker 2: can do a little segment where you say, here are
Speaker 2: the slogans of the candidates trying to replace this guy,
Speaker 2: and then you can play Gavin Newsom and a drop
Speaker 2: that sounds like it's about the Tijuana River.
Speaker 11: Feces everywhere, no compassion, and you can literally see it,
Speaker 11: smell it, and feel it.
Speaker 2: By the way, we just need to do this real
Speaker 2: quick because I needed to prove to myself that I
Speaker 2: wasn't making it up.
Speaker 1: Here's Tom Steyer.
Speaker 3: The fact that we're standing here with gas mass on
Speaker 3: should explain that this is a health emergency.
Speaker 2: Buck And here is the villain from the Dark Knight
Speaker 2: rises in twenty twelve.
Speaker 1: Bane your reave supply with the false side. Just stop
Speaker 1: you tearing down this corrupt set. Styr Is Bane here
Speaker 1: with an update on all the disgusting elements found in
Speaker 1: that river, mister Randy Wang.
Speaker 2: NBC seven does some science, and the science is bad
Speaker 2: about the ti Ilana River.
Speaker 12: It is getting worse for folks living and working around
Speaker 12: the Tijuana River Valley. Scientists say they have detected dangerous
Speaker 12: new levels of toxic gases emanating from the river, and
Speaker 12: frustrated local leaders didn't hold back while talking to NBC
Speaker 12: seven South Bay.
Speaker 4: Reporter Joe Little.
Speaker 12: They're calling out Governor Gavin Newsom.
Speaker 13: You know the Tijuana River Valley is getting pretty bad
Speaker 13: when some of your staunchest political allies are calling you
Speaker 13: out publicly. Science measures bad air by the microscopic particles
Speaker 13: floating around. We breed them in, they get ingested into
Speaker 13: our blood.
Speaker 4: Typical air in a city is less than one part
Speaker 4: per billion.
Speaker 13: One one particle of say, hydrogen sulfide, and a billion
Speaker 13: is okay.
Speaker 4: The state standard is thirty.
Speaker 13: Thirty thirty is when California should be sounding the alarm.
Speaker 13: Last week at this location in the Tijuana River valley
Speaker 13: near homes and schools, It plateaued at seven hundred and
Speaker 13: fifty all night long.
Speaker 2: Whoa, So let me reiterate that, in case you weren't
Speaker 2: paying attention to this very especial episode of Sesame Street.
Speaker 2: The safe level of hydrogen sulfite is one part per billion.
Speaker 2: The state standard is thirty parts per billion. The Tijuana
Speaker 2: River is at seven hundred parts per billion.
Speaker 1: Okay. If you ever want to know how political correctness kills,
Speaker 1: they will not tell Mexico to stop polluting this river
Speaker 1: because it's racist. So an entire community in southern California
Speaker 1: is going to get cancer.
Speaker 13: The highest recorded here by UC San Diego atmospheric chemist
Speaker 13: Camp Braither forty five hundred. Forty five hundred when thirty
Speaker 13: should set off alarms.
Speaker 4: It's got to be the highest hydrogen soul fight of
Speaker 4: anywhere in the United States. That's really bad.
Speaker 13: County Sea.
Speaker 1: Where's the EPA.
Speaker 13: Yet?
Speaker 1: Can't some agency just shut this down?
Speaker 13: Bad County Supervisor Ploma Gary had enough. She took to
Speaker 13: Instagram to call out her fellow Democrat Gavin.
Speaker 4: Knew something This governor needs to address it.
Speaker 13: Gary has repeatedly.
Speaker 2: You know what, He's not going to address it because
Speaker 2: there's no compassion when it comes to Gavin.
Speaker 4: Feces everywhere, no compassion