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I'm a Deion Jones fan, Matt. 0:00:41.210 --> 0:00:42.010 Former Pro Bowler. 0:00:43.310 --> 0:00:43.810 That's right. 0:00:45.190 --> 0:00:50.019 Well, what is going to happen to the 49ers based 0:00:50.100 --> 0:00:52.140 on this Jed York news story? 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:55.780 Nothing, everything, something in between. What's the fallout, Matt? 0:00:57.130 --> 0:01:02.250 Well, I mean, as far as punishment from the league, 0:01:03.210 --> 0:01:07.640 I would think that he pled no contest and was 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:11.820 found guilty of two misdemeanors. So it's there. It's been adjudicated. 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:17.440 It's not like the Robert Kraft situation where it was 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:20.530 sort of in a legal limbo and the charges were 0:01:20.650 --> 0:01:26.000 ultimately dropped. This one has been resolved. So... I can't 0:01:26.100 --> 0:01:32.030 imagine that he avoids any sort of punishment, but I 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:33.950 wonder what it's going to be. I mean, is it 0:01:33.990 --> 0:01:38.070 a fine and a suspension? I think that– I forget 0:01:38.110 --> 0:01:43.270 when it happened, but remember that Jim Irsay, the then 0:01:43.390 --> 0:01:50.320 Colts owner, was arrested for driving law under the influence 0:01:50.340 --> 0:01:56.900 of And I think he was fined $ 500, 000 and suspended 0:01:57.020 --> 0:02:02.690 for six games from all kind of games from the 0:02:02.970 --> 0:02:06.550 team facility, from owners meetings, stuff like that. I would 0:02:06.630 --> 0:02:09.549 imagine it's along those lines. 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:14.780 Matt, the 49ers put out a statement yesterday essentially saying 0:02:14.820 --> 0:02:17.400 that they will not be providing any further comment at 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:19.900 this time. So what do you think that timeline looks like? 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:22.389 Is this something that John Lynch, Kyle Shanahan, and maybe 0:02:22.430 --> 0:02:24.410 even the players will have to address later on this week? 0:02:25.950 --> 0:02:28.870 Yeah, I mean, I thought that they've got to practice 0:02:29.470 --> 0:02:33.070 later today, and I thought that this would be a 0:02:33.210 --> 0:02:38.840 natural spot for Kyle Shanahan to speak. He spoke last Tuesday. 0:02:38.980 --> 0:02:42.740 That was at a joint practice in Los Angeles with 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:46.570 the Chargers, but he's been speaking sort of ahead of 0:02:46.669 --> 0:02:51.709 the preseason game the last couple of weeks. He's not 0:02:51.870 --> 0:02:55.070 scheduled to speak because of the concussion, and he's not 0:02:55.190 --> 0:02:57.790 on an official schedule yet. So I think it will 0:02:57.810 --> 0:03:01.600 be interesting whether the 49ers put him out there today 0:03:01.700 --> 0:03:05.120 or whether they put Chris Furster out, and Chris Furster 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:10.520 will not have anything to say about Jed York. But, yeah, 0:03:10.580 --> 0:03:13.280 I mean, there's sort of a question. It was just 0:03:13.300 --> 0:03:19.809 a very short statement yesterday. It came via text. That 0:03:19.870 --> 0:03:23.550 statement is not on their website. There's no letterhead, anything 0:03:23.590 --> 0:03:29.450 like that. So it sort of underscored that this was unprecedented, 0:03:29.510 --> 0:03:33.489 and the 49ers were sort of headless at that moment. 0:03:34.350 --> 0:03:40.160 So who sort of... takes the reins, who becomes the 0:03:40.220 --> 0:03:43.990 voice of the team, who speaks for the franchise when 0:03:45.810 --> 0:03:49.990 the owner is indisposed, shall we say. So I think 0:03:50.250 --> 0:03:54.120 it's all a good question. I'm eager to see how 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:55.060 the team addresses it. 0:03:55.340 --> 0:03:58.240 When's the last time Matt Jed did some media with 0:03:58.260 --> 0:04:00.740 you guys, just a good old-fashioned bowl session where you 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:01.900 guys could fill up the notebooks? 0:04:04.070 --> 0:04:07.730 That usually happens at the owner's meeting in the spring, 0:04:07.750 --> 0:04:12.280 I think early May, late April. So, yeah, he did 0:04:12.310 --> 0:04:16.640 it this year, and I can't remember what the topics were, 0:04:16.700 --> 0:04:21.680 but it was a good 20-minute session where he answers everything, 0:04:21.740 --> 0:04:26.000 and that's usually it, unless there's a specific thing, like 0:04:26.020 --> 0:04:28.880 something to do with the stadium or an event or 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:29.560 something like that. 0:04:30.190 --> 0:04:32.289 So there's a couple of things of note here. Sad 0:04:32.330 --> 0:04:34.850 story about him getting divorced from Danielle, who we all knew. And, 0:04:35.230 --> 0:04:37.380 you know, it's sad that a family breaks up like that. 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:40.219 And then somebody said he might be moving to Ohio 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:44.500 full time for tax purposes. That's just a rumor I'd heard. 0:04:45.140 --> 0:04:48.979 And then the Parag Marathe departure. So I'm just kind 0:04:49.020 --> 0:04:50.820 of adding this all up. You throw in the arrest. 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:55.500 Is the 49ers hierarchy top of the food chain as 0:04:56.140 --> 0:04:57.740 unstable as it's been in a while? 0:04:59.330 --> 0:05:03.100 Well, yeah, I mean, there are different faces. You know, 0:05:03.779 --> 0:05:07.860 the Prague Marate was his right hand man from the beginning. 0:05:07.980 --> 0:05:13.600 I mean, back when Murph was a 49ers beat reporter, right? 0:05:13.820 --> 0:05:18.020 That's when Prague Marate came in. I mean, we're talking ancient, 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:22.989 ancient history here. And all of a sudden, he's not. 0:05:23.210 --> 0:05:28.710 And it's interesting because he's still dealing with 49ers Enterprises, 0:05:28.810 --> 0:05:33.280 which is the arm that deals with the soccer clubs 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:36.599 in the UK and whatnot, but not with the 49ers. 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:42.230 At the same time, Al Guido has risen up. He's 0:05:42.290 --> 0:05:45.810 been sort of the stadium guy since 2014. And that's 0:05:45.830 --> 0:05:53.120 been his... purview. And, you know, I wonder whether, you know, 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:58.320 he will gain some power, some clout because of the 0:05:58.380 --> 0:06:00.659 vacuum created by Prog Marante. 0:06:01.779 --> 0:06:05.840 Matt, between this Jed York incident and the Kyle Shanahan 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:09.900 car accident, do you see this offseason maybe having too 0:06:09.940 --> 0:06:11.980 many distractions to the point where it could have an 0:06:12.020 --> 0:06:12.799 effect on the season? 0:06:14.880 --> 0:06:17.400 I mean, you know, the bigger one as far as 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:21.260 you know, the football team and practices and getting ready 0:06:21.300 --> 0:06:24.979 for the Rams as Kyle Shanahan. And that has returned 0:06:25.020 --> 0:06:28.050 to normal. I mean, as far as the players and 0:06:28.070 --> 0:06:32.810 the coaches are concerned, you know, it was a little 0:06:32.850 --> 0:06:37.089 bit disrupted at the beginning of training camp, but there's 0:06:37.190 --> 0:06:41.650 no change right now. So I don't think that it's 0:06:41.690 --> 0:06:45.150 going to affect the product on the field. I'm sure 0:06:45.230 --> 0:06:47.360 the players are wondering what the hell is going on 0:06:48.020 --> 0:06:52.490 with our owner. And I don't know how this incident 0:06:53.060 --> 0:07:00.630 plus the divorce proceedings will affect things. My, my podcast partner, 0:07:00.690 --> 0:07:04.570 Tim Calicami thinks that it could have a big impact 0:07:05.170 --> 0:07:09.850 down the line. I'm, I'm a little bit more dubious than, 0:07:09.990 --> 0:07:12.690 than he is, but I mean, it's, it's a bit 0:07:12.710 --> 0:07:15.730 of a double whammy. And then, you know, to Murph's point, 0:07:16.250 --> 0:07:20.710 You throw in Prague Marate leaving, and that was unrelated, obviously. 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:27.880 But there are three sort of, you know, big, roiling 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:30.480 things that are happening to the organization right now. 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:33.540 I mean, the nightmare scenario is the McCourts, right? They 0:07:33.620 --> 0:07:37.660 own the Dodgers, and their divorce, like, turned the franchise 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:41.260 upside down. It led to the sale of the franchise. So, 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:43.540 I mean, that's like the nuclear scenario. 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:48.300 Yes. You know, my thought, though, is I always thought, 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:52.780 and maybe you've seen him at a 49ers event at 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:56.370 a game. I don't know this for sure. I've never 0:07:56.430 --> 0:07:58.410 talked to Jed about it. But it seemed like the 0:07:58.930 --> 0:08:04.590 succession plan was to eventually turn the team over to 0:08:04.750 --> 0:08:09.240 his eldest son, Jackson, who, you know, he is a 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:15.410 sports football mad little kid. throwing the ball with Tom Brady. 0:08:15.450 --> 0:08:19.470 You see him on the sideline, plays sports. He loves 0:08:19.510 --> 0:08:26.300 the NFL. It seemed natural. I just don't know what 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:32.740 these divorce proceedings will bring. Sometimes divorces occur and then 0:08:32.940 --> 0:08:36.240 there's a reconciliation and this, that, and the other. I 0:08:37.580 --> 0:08:41.219 would think that that was the plan. I don't know 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:44.380 if the divorce proceedings change any of. 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:47.620 That yeah it's wild wild wild stuff and uh it 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:49.480 uh we'll see i mean these are the power this 0:08:49.500 --> 0:08:52.080 is the cloak and dagger stuff here as we as 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:54.160 we uh we'll see how it affects the 49ers going 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:56.980 to la that leads with like such ordinary questions matt 0:08:57.120 --> 0:08:58.579 as has george. 0:08:58.360 --> 0:09:00.160 Kittle are you gonna ask about left guard. 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:04.180 How does the jed how does the mobile park affect 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:07.420 uh uh what's his name uh uh who's the kid 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:09.240 there who's out there now carver willis. 0:09:09.020 --> 0:09:12.140 Carver willis uh-huh Jeez, man. Maybe a little Connor Colby. 0:09:12.380 --> 0:09:13.040 Connor Colby. 0:09:13.059 --> 0:09:14.040 Yeah, who do you want? 0:09:14.059 --> 0:09:14.500 Who's your pick? 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:16.359 Robert Jones. Yeah, yeah, throw Robert Jones in there, too. 0:09:16.380 --> 0:09:16.960 Brett Toth. 0:09:17.900 --> 0:09:22.070 Anyway, Matt, George Kittle has yet to have a padded 0:09:22.250 --> 0:09:23.510 team practice, correct? 0:09:23.570 --> 0:09:25.210 Is that the eyes this week? 0:09:26.550 --> 0:09:29.610 Yes, that's, you know, it seems to be trending towards that. 0:09:29.670 --> 0:09:33.060 He was doing all the individual drill stuff, and I 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:38.530 think that the takeaway is that, you Guys can hustle 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:41.060 back and be back in the lineup. They don't look 0:09:41.140 --> 0:09:46.620 like themselves. George Kittle looks like George Kittle, just from 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:49.679 the very brief stuff that we've seen. But his teammates 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:54.930 have seen more, and they're very impressed by his comeback, 0:09:55.010 --> 0:09:58.150 his rehab. So I think he'll be ramped up slowly. 0:09:58.190 --> 0:10:00.229 He'll probably do a little bit more today. than he 0:10:00.270 --> 0:10:03.550 did on Sunday. Uh, he'll probably have a workout on, 0:10:03.690 --> 0:10:06.670 on Thursday, but not playing the game. And then they'll 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:11.460 have some practices, um, Saturday and Sunday coming up. And, um, 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:15.180 you know, really soon right after that, this team will 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:18.920 Sunday night that the team, we knows it's, uh, rostered 0:10:18.940 --> 0:10:23.400 a 53, uh, And then on Wednesday, they hop on 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:27.479 a plane to Melbourne, Australia. So things are happening quick. 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:31.820 It's all going to be occurring rapidly. So there's only 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:35.809 a brief window for him to get ready for this game. 0:10:35.830 --> 0:10:38.850 That's why I think it will be a ramp up. 0:10:38.870 --> 0:10:41.330 But the ramp up should be fairly steep. 0:10:42.380 --> 0:10:44.500 Matt, just to follow up on Kittle, obviously it's a 0:10:44.620 --> 0:10:47.140 huge box to check off him being activated off the 0:10:47.179 --> 0:10:50.250 PUP list, but are there actual like known boxes that 0:10:50.290 --> 0:10:52.489 he still needs to check off as he's trying to 0:10:52.530 --> 0:10:53.430 ramp up ahead of week one? 0:10:54.730 --> 0:10:59.069 I think it's just about getting into football shape and 0:10:59.770 --> 0:11:02.350 everyone you ever talk to says, you know, you can 0:11:02.570 --> 0:11:05.719 run as many wind sprints and, you know, hit all 0:11:05.750 --> 0:11:09.950 your mile per hour parameters and, right on the nose. 0:11:10.020 --> 0:11:15.069 But until you actually practice and play football, you're just 0:11:15.130 --> 0:11:18.809 not going to be ready for a game. So that's 0:11:18.850 --> 0:11:21.630 sort of part and parcel to this idea of building 0:11:21.690 --> 0:11:24.700 up the callus that the 49ers try to do at 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:27.740 the beginning of training camp, which results in a lot 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:30.900 of guys getting hurt, a lot of guys straining groins 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:35.559 and hamstrings and calves. But it's about, for Kyle Shanahan, 0:11:37.390 --> 0:11:41.670 getting in football shape. And that's what is missing for 0:11:41.910 --> 0:11:43.630 George Kittle right now. And that's why I say I 0:11:44.050 --> 0:11:49.479 think his kind of ramp-up period will be fairly intense. 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:51.360 How many starters on Thursday? 0:11:53.460 --> 0:11:55.520 I mean, I don't know the answer to that. I 0:11:55.620 --> 0:12:00.829 asked the two coordinators that question last week, thinking that, oh, 0:12:00.870 --> 0:12:04.450 because they have to get on the plane on Wednesday... 0:12:05.220 --> 0:12:09.439 a week from tomorrow, maybe they'll treat this third game 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:12.900 differently and not have any starters out there. So I 0:12:12.950 --> 0:12:17.190 don't know what the answer is. I think there are 0:12:17.210 --> 0:12:20.949 some players, we joked about the left guard position, but 0:12:20.970 --> 0:12:23.949 I think that they'd love to see Carver Willis out 0:12:23.990 --> 0:12:31.130 there against the Raiders. I think if Romello Height is healthy, 0:12:31.370 --> 0:12:34.280 he would be out there against the Raiders. These are 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:39.410 possible starters. Jaden Duggar, the rookie linebacker. They want to 0:12:39.450 --> 0:12:44.390 give the inexperienced potential starters all the work that they 0:12:44.410 --> 0:12:45.390 can get in the summer. 0:12:46.010 --> 0:12:48.540 Matt, real quick before we let you go, are you 0:12:48.580 --> 0:12:51.340 familiar with the romance novel Fourth Wing? 0:12:54.100 --> 0:12:59.290 I am not. This is going to be an interesting question, though, 0:12:59.330 --> 0:12:59.610 I think. 0:12:59.750 --> 0:13:02.109 Yeah, well, last night it was fourth wing night last 0:13:02.150 --> 0:13:03.490 night at Oracle Park, and I was there, and I 0:13:03.530 --> 0:13:05.450 was just confused, and I had no idea about the book. 0:13:05.530 --> 0:13:08.610 I just thought maybe because of you being a best-selling author, 0:13:08.650 --> 0:13:10.770 maybe you had a breakdown or maybe a recommendation on 0:13:10.790 --> 0:13:11.350 the fourth wing. 0:13:11.970 --> 0:13:14.030 Well, I have done a lot of sort of book 0:13:14.050 --> 0:13:18.470 signing things at Barnes & Nobles and different bookstores, and 0:13:18.650 --> 0:13:22.810 it is amazing. You're surrounded by... books that do sell 0:13:23.190 --> 0:13:26.390 unlike my book the books that do sell all have 0:13:26.490 --> 0:13:29.689 titles like fourth wing they're all sort of like fantasy 0:13:30.270 --> 0:13:34.949 fiction military fantasy things like that that's what that's what 0:13:35.030 --> 0:13:38.750 sells these days that of course in in romance romance 0:13:38.809 --> 0:13:42.370 novels which is you know murph's uh He loves the 0:13:42.429 --> 0:13:45.250 romance novels, the bodice rippers, as we call them. 0:13:45.610 --> 0:13:47.380 The bodice rippers. I hadn't heard that one. 0:13:47.780 --> 0:13:50.080 That's what apparently this book, Fourth Wing, has been described 0:13:50.140 --> 0:13:51.380 as dragon smut. 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:53.620 Dragon smut. 0:13:55.300 --> 0:13:57.930 Well, I mean, who among us doesn't like to read 0:13:57.970 --> 0:13:59.710 a little dragon smut every now and then? 0:13:59.850 --> 0:14:02.850 Well, according to Marcus, a fair number of people do 0:14:02.910 --> 0:14:04.569 because they were all at the Giants game last night 0:14:04.610 --> 0:14:05.750 getting a special giveaway. 0:14:05.770 --> 0:14:06.880 Oh, huge lines at the ballpark. 0:14:06.890 --> 0:14:11.360 Yeah, you know, I'm sure this is Game of Thrones echo, 0:14:11.580 --> 0:14:16.340 you know. Game of Thrones was so huge. 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:17.660 Fifty Shades of Harry Potter. 0:14:19.970 --> 0:14:22.650 That's what it is. That's what sells these days. I mean, 0:14:22.770 --> 0:14:26.050 I tried to write a good old-fashioned murder mystery and 0:14:27.070 --> 0:14:29.320 It hasn't sold very well. I should have gone with 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:33.360 dragon smut. And in fact, dragon smut is a terrific title. 0:14:33.500 --> 0:14:35.300 I mean, I just might take that. 0:14:35.340 --> 0:14:37.060 You know what you do? You deal with the darn 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:37.780 book sales too. 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:40.240 As I tell people, when the late great Neil Hayes 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:43.100 and I wrote the last putt, people say, how did 0:14:43.140 --> 0:14:43.580 it sell? 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:49.310 I say, it was well-reviewed. It was well-reviewed. Exactly. 0:14:49.470 --> 0:14:52.590 As was, I was going to say, Maddie, we got 0:14:52.670 --> 0:14:54.510 one sale in our house and waiting for the next. 0:14:54.590 --> 0:14:57.340 Candace is an avowed fan. I don't know. Maybe she 0:14:57.360 --> 0:14:59.680 wants a little more dragon and a little more smut. 0:14:59.700 --> 0:15:00.740 I don't know. I'll ask her. 0:15:02.180 --> 0:15:06.740 Well, I mean, we can probably fit the smut into it. Dragon, gosh, 0:15:06.860 --> 0:15:08.880 that's just going to be tough. But I'll see what 0:15:08.900 --> 0:15:09.300 I can do. 0:15:09.330 --> 0:15:09.710 All right. 0:15:09.730 --> 0:15:12.010 You've got a long flight to tinker with that manuscript. 0:15:13.670 --> 0:15:15.590 Don't think that I'm not going to be working on 0:15:15.610 --> 0:15:17.130 that during that flight. All right. 0:15:17.190 --> 0:15:18.109 You're the best, Matt. 0:15:18.150 --> 0:15:19.910 We'll read you in The Athletic. Thank you. 0:15:19.950 --> 0:15:20.450 Yeah, thanks, Matt. 0:15:21.090 --> 0:15:21.330 All right. 0:15:21.350 --> 0:15:22.550 Anytime, guys. Talk to you soon. 0:15:22.750 --> 0:15:25.630 Matt Barrows of The Athletic vowed off Muddy the Water 0:15:25.690 --> 0:15:28.430 is the book. It's a detective. My wife, who reads 0:15:28.470 --> 0:15:30.270 these whodunits all the time, says it's one of the 0:15:30.350 --> 0:15:31.050 best she's read. 0:15:31.170 --> 0:15:31.750 Whodunit! 0:15:32.050 --> 0:15:36.070 So it's like, do you do Jacob Violante, the vigilante, 0:15:36.130 --> 0:15:37.910 in for Walt, who's tending to the baby today? 0:15:38.870 --> 0:15:40.700 Do you read? Are you a reader, my friend? Do 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:41.390 you read books? 0:15:41.790 --> 0:15:42.480 I am a reader. 0:15:42.550 --> 0:15:42.930 Wow. 0:15:42.980 --> 0:15:46.620 That makes you severely in the minority here. So have 0:15:46.660 --> 0:15:47.600 you read Muddy the Water? 0:15:48.110 --> 0:15:50.250 I have not. Well, are you interested in like a whodunit? 0:15:50.430 --> 0:15:50.830 I am. 0:15:50.930 --> 0:15:54.430 Okay. Muddy the water. Spoiler alert. It was a substation. 0:15:56.610 --> 0:15:58.130 We have his Christmas present all picked out. 0:15:58.250 --> 0:15:58.890 Oh, yeah. 0:15:58.970 --> 0:16:05.460 Cooler of content. Bro, did you see the Padres' new owners? Oh, my. 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:05.880 Yeah. 0:16:05.940 --> 0:16:08.100 They made a splash. Next on Esports Leader.