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Speaker 1: Now back to Dirty Work Adam Copeland and Derek Papa

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Speaker 1: on KNB R one O four, five and six eighty

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Speaker 1: Am the sports Leader Dirty Work on.

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Speaker 2: A Thursday Adam Copeland, Derek Papa and Dan Dunn Today

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Speaker 2: later on the show, actually we're gonna be joined by

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Speaker 2: Sam Ammick a little bit here about twelve minutes at

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Speaker 2: three thirty talk about.

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Speaker 3: The Warriors and go around the NBA.

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Speaker 2: At four o'clock, we're gonna be joined by Sean Estes,

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Speaker 2: a former Giants pitcher and analyst of the Giants on

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Speaker 2: NBC Sports Bay Area.

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Speaker 3: Then at four to fifty we're gonna be joined by

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Speaker 3: rich Aurelia.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna join us every Thursday at four fifty to

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Speaker 2: break down the Giants season. And then at five point

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Speaker 2: thirty we're gonna be joined by Andy Baggerley of the

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Speaker 2: Athletic to get.

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Speaker 3: Into the Giant season.

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Speaker 2: And we're taking your calls to day four and five

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Speaker 2: eight A way five six, two seven. Me and Coaps

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Speaker 2: at a very interesting encounter with Marlin's Man last night.

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Speaker 4: Just an unexpected like one didn't expect this like ever

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Speaker 4: run into Marlin's band, never had any care too and

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Speaker 4: then it delivered on just just an entertaining It was

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Speaker 4: more entertaining on the game itself.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I would say running with Mars, that's the highlight

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Speaker 3: of the night. It's going out to the.

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Speaker 4: Phone line here talking about funny runnings people have had

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Speaker 4: with some some athletes or some labs. Let's go to

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Speaker 4: Miggi in the nine two five. By the way, I

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Speaker 4: love that one on Conseicho. A woman went on a

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Speaker 4: date with him years ago and she said, get take

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Speaker 4: a number getting line. Honey, All right, here's a Miggi

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Speaker 4: in the nine two five. Maggi, you're on these sports later.

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Speaker 5: What's up, bro?

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Speaker 6: Hey guys, how's it going. Thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 6: I'm pushing you guys every day at work. You guys

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Speaker 6: get me through. So yeah, So I was working down

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Speaker 6: in that way at the time, and me and my

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Speaker 6: buddy rout at lunch. We were on Venturo Boulevard and

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Speaker 6: this guy walks towards me and then past me, all black,

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Speaker 6: kind of like messy, disheveled, bearded, long hair, and I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 6: kind of kind of strange, walks past me. My buddy

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Speaker 6: just stands up at the table and he's like, hey, brother,

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Speaker 6: and like starts flexing.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, what's up.

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Speaker 6: Brother, And I'm like, dude, what are you doing? You're

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Speaker 6: embarrassing me, bro, and I look back. He gets up

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Speaker 6: to it again. Hey, brothers. The guy turns around and responds, Hey,

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Speaker 6: what's up guys? Arend starts s flexing back in this

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Speaker 6: dude doubt. So I'm like, what is going on? Next thing?

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Speaker 7: I know?

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Speaker 6: Man, Randy Savage?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but my.

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Speaker 6: Buddy, And I was like, what is going on? So

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Speaker 6: I felt toopid because I didn't recognize him and then

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Speaker 6: he yeah, I think he came over and chatted about that.

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Speaker 6: It was cool and yeah, that was a pretty funny story.

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Speaker 3: Good man.

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Speaker 4: Thanks thanks for calling me matro man Randy Savage. That's

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Speaker 4: not an awkward one though, that's just meeting him.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of No, dude, he's a trip from what

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Speaker 2: I hear. I love his uh his interviews Back of

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Speaker 2: the Day, Uh, you know Gareem of Coffee big. You know,

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Speaker 2: I forgot all the phrases, but watch him and was

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Speaker 2: was was absolutely incredible for Back of the Year.

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Speaker 3: Jumped out.

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Speaker 4: You didn't want to go with that one, No, no

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Speaker 4: content ready, just really let's go back down to the lines.

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Speaker 4: Matt is in Redwood City. Let's talk about the game

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Speaker 4: last night, the broadcast on Netflix. Matt, you're on the

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Speaker 4: sports later.

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Speaker 3: What's up, bro?

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Speaker 7: Hey, how are you all doing?

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Speaker 3: Good man?

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Speaker 8: Thanks for what you do. I love listening to the show.

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Speaker 5: Thanks dude.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I was all set to really re broadcast part.

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Speaker 9: I think the experienced the last couple of years with

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Speaker 9: Apple TV doing games.

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Speaker 8: I think it's I think prime.

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Speaker 9: Also, I really have not enjoyed those and uh and

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Speaker 9: I have to say after the beginning part, I wasn't

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Speaker 9: I wasn't super into the pregame stuff, but I felt

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Speaker 9: like the broadcast was fine, like having Hunter in there,

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Speaker 9: having CC in there, the play by play guy, I

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Speaker 9: think his name was Brandon, Brandon Bergamont or something.

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Speaker 8: Anyway, I thought all that was fine.

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Speaker 4: All right, appreciate the call man, thanks so much. I

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Speaker 4: mean again, I didn't see much of the end game.

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Speaker 4: I know they brought in Rob Manford at one point

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Speaker 4: about one hundred pence at one point. It might have

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Speaker 4: been cool. And again, I know everybody's like, I want

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Speaker 4: my local broadcaster on that. When it's a national game,

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Speaker 4: you just don't get that. Anyway, we were I thought

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Speaker 4: we were spoiled for everyone. Like I didn't like John

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Speaker 4: Miller having to leave the team to go to ESPN,

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Speaker 4: But I always thought it was cool that, Like if

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Speaker 4: the Giants were on Sunday Night Baseball, we just got

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Speaker 4: John Miller and Joe Morgan talking like that was the

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Speaker 4: cool and he's just so good. But I know Giants

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Speaker 4: fans don't like when Joe Davis sends up on the

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Speaker 5: But you know, I don't know neither here nor there

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Speaker 5: for me.

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Speaker 4: I think Giants fans have had Every fan base has

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Speaker 4: problems with the national broadcasters.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 4: Everybody thought Joe Buck aided their team right when he

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Speaker 4: was calling baseball. It's just the way everybody feels about

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Speaker 4: it when it's not your guy. I thought it would

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Speaker 4: have been cool if you had a broadcaster from each

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Speaker 4: team sit in for it.

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Speaker 3: Do with the.

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Speaker 4: Interview for an inning. Let a guy like Kype who

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Speaker 4: knows the team well, sit in for an inning. Have

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Speaker 4: Crouks sit in for an inning and talk about from

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Speaker 4: from one side of it. If you're really gonna try

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Speaker 4: to appease all fans, then get somebody from the Yankees broadcast.

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Speaker 4: Get Susan Waldron sit.

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Speaker 2: In for an you know what I mean, like or

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Speaker 2: the great John Sterling if yeah, see that would.

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Speaker 3: Have been great.

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Speaker 2: Ah Nutflis game, Seamus Winston, he gets like some rhyme

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Speaker 2: going on with it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, shameless for Jamis. There's another Homers laid five

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Speaker 4: to one.

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Speaker 2: With what Bob Cousss was talking about with us on Monday,

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Speaker 2: where it's more feasible for the postseason to have alternate

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Speaker 2: broadcasts on the national games where you can have the

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Speaker 2: local announcers doing the game. And I will tell people like, yes,

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Speaker 2: this is inevitable. We're gonna have more broadcasts on Netflix.

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Speaker 3: It's a one off.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna do, I believe the Field of Dreams game

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Speaker 2: of games on Netflix. It'll go back to the traditional

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Speaker 2: you know what, I kind of like the idea of

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Speaker 2: Matt vas Kursion and Bob Cassis back on Saday Night Baseball,

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Speaker 2: So I like that nostalgia of it. But for the

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Speaker 2: majority of the season, you're you're gonna get crooking Kype,

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Speaker 2: So it'll be fine.

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Speaker 3: We're by the way.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna move Daniy's double dips to a little bit later.

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Speaker 4: We'll do it in about an hour because we've got

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Speaker 4: a lot of people calling in here with their funky

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Speaker 4: or weird or odd celebrity run in. Let's go back

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Speaker 4: out to the phone lines that are Danny, you're screening

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Speaker 4: the calls. It's gonna Ray line to raising Sacomenta. Ray

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Speaker 4: you're on the Sports Leader.

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Speaker 10: Hey, Hey, what's up, guys?

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Speaker 7: How you doing? What?

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Speaker 11: All right?

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Speaker 3: What's you got?

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Speaker 7: Hey?

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Speaker 10: Man?

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Speaker 3: So quick.

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Speaker 10: My buddy used to live in LA and I used

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Speaker 10: to go visit him. He lived out for Center in

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Speaker 10: Los fiena gay man. It's called the Pink Dot though,

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Speaker 10: right down down the hill from him. And I remember

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Speaker 10: it's like one in the morning. My buddy and I

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Speaker 10: are in there and we walk in man and Ron

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Speaker 10: Jeremy is in there buying lugged Petsy in a slim jim,

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Speaker 10: and I said, I start laughing because he holds the

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Speaker 10: slim jim. So I go, I'm I'm completely buzzed off

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Speaker 10: my buttle and I would I go, oh my god,

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Speaker 10: I go Ron Jereby and he turns around and did

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Speaker 10: you find me a slim gym. He goes, yeah, So

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Speaker 10: I go, well, you'll get it, and he just shook

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Speaker 10: his head and walked out the door. My buddy's on

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Speaker 10: the floor laughing. I said like, yeah, that was one

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Speaker 10: of my first celebrity fidays and I totally blew it.

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Speaker 4: You totally blew it, all right, thanks so much, dude. Yeah, dude,

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Speaker 4: He's like, you don't get it. I love I mean Jared, Like,

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Speaker 4: if you're if you're in that industry, you got to

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Speaker 4: know anytime somebody sees you, there's gonna be some some

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Speaker 4: charged content.

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Speaker 3: And Ron Jeremy Kenny.

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Speaker 4: I love your films. No, I yeah, no, probably better

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Speaker 4: you didn't like hit. Let's go to What's Lee? Lee

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Speaker 4: is up in clearlank leve me some clear link, will you?

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Speaker 3: What's up?

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Speaker 7: Man?

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Speaker 5: You're on the sports.

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Speaker 12: And this guy. And I pulled my kids out school

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Speaker 12: one day to go see Kenny stayboard and you did

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Speaker 12: autograph signing at Santa It's a Chevrolet where they used

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Speaker 12: to train and uh, the kids were steading there and

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Speaker 12: I go to pour three kids over and the commercial

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Speaker 12: it was just a local commercial, but all three of

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Speaker 12: my kids were in commercial this morning about I'm getting

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Speaker 12: goose punks time. You got this story right now. All

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Speaker 12: three kids were in a commercial and style and I

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Speaker 12: played cat in the parking.

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Speaker 6: Lot into three takes pretty season.

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Speaker 12: My son is named the name. My son's named Kenneth

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Speaker 12: Michael after Kenneth Michael Stable. That's why I actually named

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Speaker 12: got beneath the money was named after and hold the

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Speaker 12: super Bowl ring. I was was a pretty amazing day.

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Speaker 3: Pretty street man.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for the call. You thinks so much.

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Speaker 4: Yes, with respect, I was more looking for stories that

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Speaker 4: are like you know, and Ken's Tabler, like you know,

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Speaker 4: wiped his dirty hands on my shirt.

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Speaker 3: After Yeah, it's weird encounters.

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Speaker 4: I mean respect that is that is cool. Yeah, but

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Speaker 4: also like that's I mean that's cool.

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Speaker 3: No, it's very cool to meet celebrities and they're down

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Speaker 3: to earth, but it's.

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Speaker 4: Not it's not asking Marlin's man if he was in

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Speaker 4: the Epstein file. Yeah, No, with respect to Ken's Stabler.

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Speaker 2: It's where like they're obscure celebrities or they think they're

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Speaker 3: Like, for example, let me give you another example.

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Speaker 5: Okay, go for a time that I was.

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Speaker 4: At speaking of clear Lake Connactai Harbors, Orton's Palm. My

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Speaker 4: dad was empcing that that quarterback golf tournament. Yeah, when

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Speaker 4: Joe Montana stepped up at the podium, he said, uh yeah,

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Speaker 11: Later, Hey guys, I had been waiting like twelve years

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Speaker 5: I think I got some more I can. I can

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Speaker 3: Or pull up? Did I ever tell my Dave Chappelle story?

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Speaker 4: Dirty Work rolls on on a Thursday. Adam Copeland, t

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Speaker 1: You found Dirty Work with Adam Copeland and Derek Poppa,

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Speaker 4: Dirty Work with You on a Thursday afternoon Adam Copland

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Speaker 4: Deep Pop with You, Join Now on the UMA. Guest

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Speaker 4: line by Sam Ammick covers the NBA for the Athletic

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Speaker 4: We do it with Sam each in every week.

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Speaker 3: Sam.

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Speaker 5: What's going on?

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Speaker 3: How are you? It's him?

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Speaker 14: Good afternoon, gentlemen, doing well? Actually mixing things up today

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Speaker 7: How about that?

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Speaker 3: Nice getting some college hoops?

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Speaker 7: Do that?

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Speaker 5: So I want to ask you about how I should

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Speaker 15: This is still a process.

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Speaker 14: onion back and dig deeper on it before the setting

447
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Speaker 14: ultimately what to do.

448
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Speaker 2: Talking to Sam Amic on the UMA guest line, as

449
00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,320
Speaker 2: far as the Warriors, just the season of hell continues

450
00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,399
Speaker 2: where the other night in Dallas, just a horrible scene

451
00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,720
Speaker 2: where Moses Moody has the but teller tendon, you know, injury,

452
00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,680
Speaker 2: and just it's it's awful and we're winning on Steph

453
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Speaker 2: Curry to come back maybe later, you know, this week,

454
00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,680
Speaker 2: but at this point, like I you know, it impacts

455
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Speaker 2: them next season. So as far as just like a

456
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Speaker 2: younger player on this roster that you're hope and can

457
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Speaker 2: grow on this team, how much is Moses Moody's injury,

458
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Speaker 2: Sam impact their twenty twenty six twenty twenty seven season

459
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Speaker 2: where you're trying to find Moody into your plans as

460
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Speaker 2: a rotational player but also a possible trade piece.

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Speaker 14: No, it's brutal, I mean, Moses, it's funny for all

462
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Speaker 14: the kind of you know, the you know, hotly contested

463
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Speaker 14: debates about the Warriors two.

464
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Speaker 15: Timelines and the old guys and the new guys.

465
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Speaker 14: Like like Moses to some extent was like Switzerland, you

466
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Speaker 14: know what I mean, Like everybody could agree on him,

467
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Speaker 14: and he was he was in that positive and and

468
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Speaker 14: he didn't rile the fan base up like Podjepski does,

469
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Speaker 14: and and he didn't you know, certainly create the hubbub

470
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Speaker 14: that Kamena did. You know, it might not have lived

471
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Speaker 14: up to his lottery status, but he was a good

472
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Speaker 14: player and you know, and a fantastic guy by all accounts,

473
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Speaker 14: especially in.

474
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Speaker 15: Locker room and off the court.

475
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Speaker 14: So you saw the depth of kind of disappointment and

476
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Speaker 14: empathy on the behalf of his teammates for what he's

477
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Speaker 14: going through. And then to your question, Derek, planning wise,

478
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Speaker 14: it just you know, Mike Dudley has got one of

479
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Speaker 14: the toughest jobs in the league right now because you

480
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Speaker 14: factor in Jimmy Butler and his injury bleeding over into

481
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Speaker 14: next year. Moses same scenario, you know, similar timelines. That

482
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Speaker 14: does not make it easy to really flesh out different

483
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Speaker 14: trade scenarios. And you know during a summer where if

484
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Speaker 14: we fast forward to next March and this roster looks

485
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Speaker 14: anything like it looks right now, then the Steph Curry

486
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Speaker 14: noise is going to be even louder. Like they obviously

487
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Speaker 14: want to get pieces around him to contend, and right now,

488
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Speaker 14: the movie situation just makes that pathway even more problematic.

489
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Speaker 2: Now, it definitely does, and we'll see what happens this offseason,

490
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Speaker 2: but as far as the hearing, now, Steph will return,

491
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Speaker 2: and it's kind of similar to twenty twenty where Steph

492
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Speaker 2: returned to play with Andrew Wiggins when the season was lost,

493
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Speaker 2: but Wiggins wasn't a free agent, and I'm not sure

494
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Speaker 2: about Porzingis's future with the team now. They could still

495
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Speaker 2: play for the plan and they probably won't make. But

496
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Speaker 2: do you think there's much of a benefit to Steph

497
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Speaker 2: returning when the roster is depleted and your ceiling is

498
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Speaker 2: probably just winning a playing game.

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Speaker 7: I do.

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Speaker 14: I'm a little bit old school when it comes to

501
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Speaker 14: It's funny because you could you could kind of juxtapose

502
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Speaker 14: the staff situation with Gianesi's situation at Milwaukee, and I

503
00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,560
Speaker 14: wrote about that a little bit today where it's like

504
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Speaker 14: my mentality is a guy like Giannis, a guy like Staff, Like,

505
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Speaker 14: if they say they're ready to go, this is what

506
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Speaker 14: they do for a living, you know. And by the way,

507
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Speaker 14: I know it's not real life money, but when you

508
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Speaker 14: have guys that are making, you know, that are literally

509
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Speaker 14: making you know, four hundred thousand dollars a game salary wise,

510
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Speaker 14: like they want to go in their money even if

511
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Speaker 14: it's not meaningful basketball, which is obviously a'll become a

512
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Speaker 14: well known phrase in the Warriors world. So I think

513
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Speaker 14: if Stef's ready, you just you let them go. Steph

514
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Speaker 14: you know, this is what these guys do for a living.

515
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Speaker 14: I just don't feel comfortable with the idea of holding

516
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Speaker 14: healthy guys back, you know, in the bucks or they

517
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Speaker 14: claim that's not what they're doing right now with the honest,

518
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Speaker 14: but but he is sending the opposite message that to

519
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Speaker 14: some degree, that is what they're doing. So you know,

520
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Speaker 14: it's you hear people and players especially talk about not

521
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Speaker 14: messing with the basketball gods. You know, I think Telly

522
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Speaker 14: staph to sit, uh when when he's ready to go.

523
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Speaker 14: What would be upsetting to the old basketball guys.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna say I have a cure.

525
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Speaker 4: A few more minutes on the Umer desk line, uh

526
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Speaker 4: covers the NBA for the athletic for your money. I mean,

527
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Speaker 4: we're talking NBA draft right now and where the Warriors

528
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Speaker 4: aren't such a weird peculiar spot for your money are they?

529
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Speaker 4: Are they using this draft pick or are they trade

530
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Speaker 4: it for something this offseason?

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Speaker 15: Total speculation?

532
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Speaker 14: Uh, you know, I would probably lean towards training it

533
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Speaker 14: just thinking that they're going to get ambitious and because

534
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Speaker 14: they got a swing for the fences.

535
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Speaker 15: It's you know, it is.

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Speaker 14: There is a little bit of I mean I'm tempted

537
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Speaker 14: to call it now or never, Like I don't know

538
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Speaker 14: what never looks like it's there's not necessarily you know,

539
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Speaker 14: I know occasionally we chat about will step ever asked out?

540
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Speaker 14: I know he kind of got people online talking the

541
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Speaker 14: other day when he had that interview with Charlotte when

542
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Speaker 14: he talked about having his dad's jersey number if you

543
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Speaker 14: ever played for the Hornets, like sure, like never say never,

544
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Speaker 14: but just in terms of doing right by him, they

545
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Speaker 14: know they can't let this offseason go without really taking

546
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Speaker 14: a swing, and.

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Speaker 15: That's going to require that Pick's.

548
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Speaker 2: Talking to Sam amic on the UMA Guest Lines the

549
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Speaker 2: other day, you talked about Lebron James future, and I

550
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Speaker 2: don't think it's any surprise that this will be his

551
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 2: last season with the Lakers, and the teams that are

552
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Speaker 2: most linked to him are the Cavaliers and the Warriors.

553
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Speaker 2: So you brought up Jannis and that relationship seems very

554
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Speaker 2: rocky at the moment. So honest ask what do you

555
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Speaker 2: think is more likely this offseason, the Warriors trading for

556
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Speaker 2: Jannis or signing Lebron. And I have a hard time

557
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Speaker 2: believe in Lebron and want to be second fiddle to

558
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Speaker 2: Steph and not have the power that he's had in

559
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Speaker 2: other organizations.

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Speaker 14: Well, I mean to that last point, Derek, he's probably

561
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Speaker 14: getting used to it by now because he doesn't.

562
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Speaker 15: Have much power with the Lakers.

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Speaker 14: True, yeah, you know, that's that is That's Luca's world,

564
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Speaker 14: And honestly, even Austin Reeves has surpassed Lebron on the old,

565
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Speaker 14: you know, kind of pecking order charts. Both of those

566
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Speaker 14: scenarios feel unlikely. So I'll couch you by saying that,

567
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Speaker 14: you know the and also I will say that there

568
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Speaker 14: is part of me that even with all the dysfunction

569
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Speaker 14: between Lebron and Lakers, you know, I wouldn't completely close

570
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Speaker 14: the door on him finding way to come back because

571
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Speaker 14: of how well he's played in this this third option

572
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Speaker 14: role recently, and combined with the fact that they have

573
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Speaker 14: a new owner, so maybe some of the bad blood

574
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Speaker 14: that is there between he and Jeannie Buss. You know,

575
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Speaker 14: you have a new sheriff in town, a new owner.

576
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Speaker 14: Maybe that helps the dynamics. So who knows, But you know,

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Speaker 14: I don't know. Those are both pretty unlikely. I just

578
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Speaker 14: have a hard time seeing the Warriors winning the Yanna

579
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Speaker 14: sweepstakes in terms of, you know, what other teams are

580
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Speaker 14: able to put on the table when the summer comes

581
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Speaker 14: around unless he and this is not any that I've

582
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Speaker 14: ever heard, you know, if you put his foot on

583
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Speaker 14: the scale and said, you know, it's Warriors or Bus,

584
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,360
Speaker 14: that would change things, and that would put them in

585
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Speaker 14: advantageous position.

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Speaker 15: But the Lebron's and the Warriors won.

587
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Speaker 14: You know, I'm probably in the minority. But I keep

588
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Speaker 14: harpening or hearkening.

589
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Speaker 13: Back to the Paris Olympics and how much.

590
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Speaker 14: Fun it was to see Lebron and Steph to their thing,

591
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Speaker 14: and I know that sapples to oranges and compared to

592
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Speaker 14: what it would be, they did have a chemistry there,

593
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Speaker 14: and I think how much would it help them in

594
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Speaker 14: the standings. I don't know, but you know, you're literally

595
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Speaker 14: talking about two of the top ten players of all

596
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Speaker 14: time in my opinion, that would be fun to watch.

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Speaker 2: Last one for you, Sam, I heard you the other

598
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Speaker 2: day with Greg Silver and Larry Krueger reacting this in

599
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Speaker 2: real time. So with the with the NBA PA speaking

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Speaker 2: out on Kate Cunningham not meeting the sixty five game

601
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Speaker 2: threshold for postseason awards, would you expect at this point

602
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Speaker 2: that this is going to be changed this offseason?

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Speaker 15: I don't. It's funny.

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Speaker 14: Adam Silver is absolutely you know, kind of hit check

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Speaker 14: the Union yesterday and his press conference where he, for one,

606
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Speaker 14: he kind of acted like it was only one guy

607
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Speaker 14: being infected, which I would disagree with.

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Speaker 6: I mean, there's literally because you guys.

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Speaker 14: Know, like Joker, the Why, Leonard Wemby, Shay Gilbs, Elexander,

610
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Speaker 14: Anthony Edwards, Canam a few, all of those guys are

611
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Speaker 14: like within you know, roughly five games of not being

612
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Speaker 14: eligible for postseason awards. So the rule is is on

613
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Speaker 14: the verge of blowing up in the league face. But

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Speaker 14: they are digging their heels in, I think, and they

615
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 14: have no reason to really link here because the players

616
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Speaker 14: union did agree to this as part of this current CBA.

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Speaker 14: Now they they could change it now if both sides

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Speaker 14: agreed to change it. The league is not so going

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Speaker 14: any willingness to do that, and it might be something

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Speaker 14: they have to kick back to the next CBA negotiations,

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Speaker 14: which is the feears down.

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Speaker 4: The road minute the voice you hear on the Yuma

623
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Speaker 4: guest I'm gonna do with them every Wednesday talking NBA

624
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Speaker 4: covers the NBA for the athletic Sam always appreciate the time,

625
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Speaker 4: enjoy the college hoops down at SAP and we'll talk

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Speaker 4: to you next week.

627
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Speaker 3: Thanks sim, Thank You's the.

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Speaker 4: Good, good deal there, the great Sam may make by

629
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Speaker 4: the way, still read his stuff on the college players.

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Speaker 4: Even if the Warriors don't make that that trade or

631
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Speaker 4: make a trade they're gonna need.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll need something for the future.

633
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Speaker 4: We'll see. But they are saying it's a deep NBA draft.

634
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Speaker 4: It sounds like there has to be had here.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like that, and I'll be glued as uh,

636
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Speaker 2: we got in the next twenty minutes here or thirty minutes.

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Speaker 2: Actually we got Texas and produce, so I'll be keep

638
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Speaker 2: it a close eye on that.

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Speaker 3: Throw that on dude.

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Speaker 4: By the way, how about him saying that Lebron is

641
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 4: now like maybe behind Luca and the pecking order obviously,

642
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 4: but he's like maybe even Austin Reeves.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, can you imagine Lebron?

644
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Speaker 4: Dude, I can't imagine a Polinka? And he's like, can

645
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Speaker 4: you get me another point guard? He's like, you gotta

646
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Speaker 4: check with Reeves.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about I created Austin.

648
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 4: Ree's like, dude, you gotta ask. Austin's like, what do

649
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Speaker 4: you mean. He's like, no, dude, you're third in the

650
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Speaker 4: pecking order out lot.

651
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't run things here anymore. Yeah, And it's uh,

652
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Speaker 3: who's my.

653
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Speaker 2: Guy with the trail Blazers back in the day they

654
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Speaker 2: play center for them.

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Speaker 3: Right now, I'm blaking on his name, Danny who ate In? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like he like in the pecking order, it's like

657
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 2: those three guys and it's Lebron, Like, please, I.

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Speaker 4: Was thinking Sun's first rate and yeah, a sap too.

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Speaker 4: That's number one overall. Pick Adam Copland, Deepop Dan done

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Speaker 4: with you. We got Danny's Double Dips coming up in

661
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Speaker 4: just a little while, about four fifteen or so. But

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Speaker 4: also a lot of people have checked in with some

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Speaker 4: really funny celebrity run ins or like somewhat celebrity run

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Speaker 5: Wild, weird all time for me. Anthony, by the way,

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Speaker 5: checked in.

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Speaker 4: He wasn't there when we were having these conversations with Man,

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Speaker 4: but he checked in. He said, he's dialog about the

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Speaker 4: Sir Anthony Garcia, shout him out.

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Speaker 3: He's the one who got us in.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for the invite, said, you guys want to

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Speaker 4: little a party, dude, I can get you in. It's

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Speaker 4: Lucille's throwing a party from Marlin's Man. I was like,

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Speaker 4: I don't understand that combination of what it's no big deal.

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Speaker 1: Curly could have got you in.

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Speaker 4: That's true, Curly could have got me into him going up.

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Speaker 4: All right, we'll take a quick break. We got to

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Speaker 4: get to the story a little bit later of this

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Speaker 4: person who went to a wedding and the the Verizon

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Speaker 4: guy was at his sister's wedding.

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Speaker 3: Oh can you hear me?

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Speaker 7: Now?

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Speaker 3: Can you hear me?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 3: This Verizon DAWs of the SATs totally fits the bill,

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Speaker 3: totally of what we're talking about.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, somebody else here says this doesn't totally fit the

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Speaker 4: criteria four oh eight. But I do remember Murph calling

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Speaker 4: himself a B list celebrity years ago in the Morning show.

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Speaker 4: He said pretty bold. He says, haha, pretty bold, move right.

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Speaker 4: You know it came to ours whatever to call in text.

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Speaker 4: We'll get some more of your thoughts. After we talked

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Speaker 4: to Shawn Astes, former Giants Lefty. He's going to join

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Speaker 4: us next talking Opening Day the uh oh actual Opening

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Speaker 4: Day game tomorrow, the day game, yes, and what he

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Speaker 5: We'll do that with Estes next on The Sports Leader.

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Speaker 4: We're going to catch up with Shawn Estis at four

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Speaker 4: Buster Posey was on the morning show this morning. We're

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Speaker 4: getting too that as well. Plus Richard really Andy Baggerley

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Speaker 4: join us a bit later in the show. We've been

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Speaker 4: talking about our weird and funny run in last night

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Speaker 4: after the game at Hotel Via with a Marlins man

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Speaker 4: who was was.

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Speaker 3: Quite the character I had the day.

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Speaker 4: Really, we've been asking, really after the Giants sort of

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Speaker 4: laid down, we've been asking about your funny celebrity run

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Speaker 4: ins or like low level celebrities that you have runs with.

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Speaker 4: One of my favorite ones came in here on the

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Speaker 4: Golden State number and showroom text on her eight o

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Speaker 4: A KMBR two h nine says, I went to my

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Speaker 4: sister's wedding in Palo Alto and the guy from the

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Speaker 4: old Verizon commercials was there.

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Speaker 8: Can you hear me?

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Speaker 5: The guy said, quote, can you hear me?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: And then he said he's now converted to sprint.

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Speaker 3: You know, Oh yeah, he made a jump. Yeah, it

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Speaker 3: was funny, he.

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Speaker 4: Said, uh uh he thought, uh, he thought that he

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Speaker 4: was the life of the party. I was just drunk.

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Speaker 4: I was just drunk, and I kept walking around asking

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Speaker 4: him if he could hear me that I called him

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Speaker 4: a trader for going to screen. He did not enjoy it. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: this is exactly the kind of stuff I'm talking about.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, scenario. It seems like the can you hear

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Speaker 3: me now?

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Speaker 2: Guy was just trying to have a good time at

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Speaker 2: the wedding and you were really leaning into who he was.

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Speaker 5: That's pretty funny.

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Speaker 2: Due now, I always thought that he kind of looked

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Speaker 2: like Jared from Subway who had his own problems.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you won't be hearing from him now.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna hear me now. No, never again, it's.

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Speaker 4: Gonna Nick Nixon, Sonoma, Nick, what's going on? You're on

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Speaker 4: the sports later?

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Speaker 8: Hey, thanks Mast for the call. I appreciate it. Mine

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Speaker 8: was back in high school about twenty years ago or so.

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Speaker 8: I was working at Pierce Point with a couple of

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Speaker 8: friends and we were doing outside services the weekend and

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Speaker 8: Jeff Carcia was there. Uh, we'll just say he was

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Speaker 8: having a pretty good time and uh was signing people's things,

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Speaker 8: like whether they wanted to be signed or not, and

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Speaker 8: grabbed my buddy's as hat, signed it, handed back to

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Speaker 8: him and he kind of had this look on his feet,

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Speaker 8: like I guess, I guess I wanted that on my hat.

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Speaker 8: But funny enough that kid actually ended up playing twelve

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Speaker 8: years in the MLB. If you guys remember Brandon Morro

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Speaker 8: back in the day.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember a picture.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it was pretty funny. It was just like cars.

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Speaker 8: He was having a big time. We were all having

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Speaker 8: a good time with it. And then the fact that

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Speaker 8: he just grabbed my buddy's hat and signed it and

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Speaker 8: hitded it back to him. But he's like, I guess,

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Speaker 8: I guess that's what we're happened now, dude.

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Speaker 5: That's pretty fair. Wait, it didn't bring tomorrow pitch for

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Speaker 5: the Giants and like, oh.

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Speaker 8: Nine, I don't think so he was. He came up

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Speaker 8: with Seattle. It was with Seattle for a couple of

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Speaker 8: years and then then did some playoffs since with the

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Speaker 8: Cubs and yeah, no, you.

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Speaker 4: Know what, I'm confusing him great fast, I'm confusing him

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Speaker 4: with a guy named Brandon Metters. Anyway, thanks for the call.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate its. I was like, dude, there's somebody out there.

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Speaker 4: I was like, Brandon Metters. I think I really knew her.

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Speaker 4: That is yeah, I think he played for the Giants,

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Speaker 4: And like, oh, there he is, dude, Brandon Mets told

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Speaker 4: you I.

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Speaker 3: Could see you could see his face. Let's go out

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Speaker 3: to the back, out to the phone line.

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Speaker 4: Sero at eight Awa, cam he are Actually. A text

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Speaker 4: came in, This is Phil in Santa Rosa said he

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Speaker 4: used to work at in a restaurant. This very popular

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Speaker 4: chef was coming by and my manager asked if I

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Speaker 4: wanted to meet him. I only just started working there

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Speaker 4: a couple of weeks before, and I said sure. A

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Speaker 4: little bit later, watching the door, introduce myself and he

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Speaker 4: asked me, what do you do around here? I said,

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Speaker 4: I'm a busser. I said, I bust tables. He said,

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Speaker 4: can you do me a big favor? He said, can

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Speaker 4: you go across the street to that ride it and

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Speaker 4: get a can of barbersol and a plastic razor and

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Speaker 4: shaving the bathroom because I don't ever want you in

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Speaker 4: my restaurant looking like that again.

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Speaker 3: Who said this is the chef?

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Speaker 4: The guy said, I had a four o'clock shadow, not

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Speaker 4: even very scruffy, but Guy Fieri did not like him.

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Speaker 3: Oh does it sound like guy?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, dinners, drive ins and bald faces like the Yankees.

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Speaker 4: That's what I'm That's what I'm Jesus, That's what I'm

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Speaker 4: all about.

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Speaker 3: You gotta be clean shaven for flavor toown.

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Speaker 4: Let's go to Let's go to Joby and uh no,

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Speaker 4: Valley Joby. You're on these sports leader shoofie.

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Speaker 16: Hey, guys that I was going to representing the filth

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Speaker 16: on the field last night.

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Speaker 3: Hell yeah, no, I appreciate you.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I'm sitting there walking banding practice. You know, he

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Speaker 16: had to remember, I'm fifty nine, got a pull ahead

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Speaker 16: of nearly silver hair. John Carlos Kant comes up behind

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Speaker 16: me on the toder sick, young fella. I'm like, come,

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Speaker 16: your dad.

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Speaker 7: Called the old.

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Speaker 3: Man's that college stating called you, young fellow. You're soon.

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Speaker 4: You're dealing, Jeremy. Appreciate the call, man, Thanks so much.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna just rugby dice.

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Speaker 4: Just go to Jacob Jacob's in San Juan Bautista. Jacob,

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Speaker 4: you're on the sports later.

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Speaker 17: Hi, guys, thanks for taking the call. I'm calling from

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Speaker 17: samone with Tita. But I'm from Calisoga in Napo Valley.

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Speaker 17: I actually used to live about two minutes from where

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Speaker 17: Joe Montana bought his property out there, and just out

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Speaker 17: of high school about twenty years ago, I was working

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Speaker 17: at a restaurant called Pacifico as a bartender and Joe

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Speaker 17: Montana came in and got a margarita. And I had

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Speaker 17: this lady come up to me and she's like, Hey,

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Speaker 17: I want to buy Joe Montana's margarita?

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Speaker 7: Is that him?

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Speaker 17: I said, yeah, that's him, and I said.

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Speaker 7: Are you sure.

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Speaker 17: She goes yeah, I'm like okay, and I showed her

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Speaker 17: how much it was. There was a fifty eight dollars margarita.

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Speaker 17: And she turns and looks at me and she goes,

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Speaker 17: I think I'm just going to say hi, And I said, yeah,

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Speaker 17: that's probably a good idea, haven't.

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Speaker 4: Nice Seam appreciate called Jacob, thanks so much.

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Speaker 3: Joe's like, you know, I A'm drinking him.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, I'm not doing that. I don't want the

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Speaker 4: forty seven. Take the fifty eight, telling the marks. Joe

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Speaker 4: Montana wanted, all right, we've made the connection with our guys.

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Speaker 4: Sean asked this long time San Francisco Giant and opening

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Speaker 4: day yesterday did not go how we would have liked.

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Speaker 3: Seven to nothing. Sean, what's going on?

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Speaker 15: Man?

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Speaker 3: Happy?

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Speaker 4: Uh, baseball season too. You good to talk to again, Man,

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Speaker 4: what's going on?

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Speaker 3: What's up?

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Speaker 7: Sean? Yeah, have happy New year to you guys. Uh.

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Speaker 7: Not a whole lot. A whole lot. Was not a

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Speaker 7: great start for the Giants last night. But uh, that's

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Speaker 7: why they play. I guess it was one hundred and

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Speaker 7: sixty one more games. So a lot of knee jerk reactions,

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Speaker 7: I'm sure, but but not the way they wanted.

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Speaker 3: To kick things off, No, for sure.

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Speaker 4: I mean, and again, Tony, if I tell us said

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Speaker 4: it after the game, He's like, you know, there was

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Speaker 4: a missed opportunity to maybe score a run in the

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Speaker 4: bottom of the first inning there, first and third with

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Speaker 4: one out, and they didn't get the run in. But

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Speaker 4: he said, you know, it's tough to go back to

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Speaker 4: that point and see how everything else might have played

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Speaker 4: out just because you scratch across a run early.

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Speaker 3: In the game.

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Speaker 4: But just in general, what are your thoughts on the

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Speaker 4: construction of this team right now? I mean, there's a

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Speaker 4: lot of questions on the pitching staff. I know the

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Speaker 4: offense didn't show up yesterday, but I do think that's

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Speaker 4: the strength of the team, and I think it's a

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Speaker 4: lineup that can compete.

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Speaker 7: I have to agree Coapse. I mean, I really do

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Speaker 7: think that it's going to be a lion up that's

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Speaker 7: going to put up runs. I mean, this is obviously

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Speaker 7: coming off the heels of a shutout and then team

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Speaker 7: that couldn't do a whole lot against Max Freed. But

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Speaker 7: I'm kind of just hoping it's not the same story

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Speaker 7: as we saw last year, where the team really struggled

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Speaker 7: against left handed pitching and especially left handed starters. Now

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Speaker 7: Max Freed is one of the best, maybe the second

883
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 7: best lefty in the NASH and the American League, so

884
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 7: they are up against some pretty tough competition. But if

885
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 7: you can scratch a run across in the first inning

886
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 7: and make maybe things change a little bit right, the

887
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 7: momentum maybe shifts a little bit. Freed uh doesn't isn't

888
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 7: able to settle in like he did. But I think

889
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 7: the offense is definitely going to be better than we

890
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 7: saw last night. It kind of has to be, or

891
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 7: it's going to be a long year, and I think

892
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 7: the construction of it, uh, you know, in what I

893
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 7: saw in spring training, UH proves that they have a

894
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 7: lot more length and depth in their lineup and and

895
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 7: UH they're gonna put runs up.

896
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 12: UH.

897
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 7: Pitching staff wise, I love, I love Logan and Robbie

898
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 7: loved how Tyler Mallley pitched in the spring. Adrian Hauser

899
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 7: looked great, UH landing roupe coming off of a solid

900
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 7: year last year. I love the rotation. Is it the

901
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 7: best rotation in the National League? No, but it's it's

902
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 7: a rotation where you have five guys that are going

903
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 7: to go out there and give you at least five

904
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 7: innings and keep keep your team in the game. There's

905
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 7: not a lot of question marks outside of maybe the

906
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 7: health of a couple of guys bullpen to work in progress.

907
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 7: But I loved what I saw last night and what

908
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 7: I saw in spring training from a lot of the

909
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 7: bullpen guys. And and that's going to be something that

910
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 7: Tony Vitella is going to have to figure out. He's

911
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 7: gonna have to navigate that figure out who those right

912
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 7: handed guys UH to pitch pitch the back end of

913
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 7: ball games. But the one thing that really stood out

914
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,439
Speaker 7: last night. It was the one It was the one

915
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,240
Speaker 7: question mark I had coming into the season was the defense,

916
00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 7: and you know, worked really hard on defense. This thing.

917
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 7: The guys that needed to work. Obviously, Elliott Ramos had

918
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 7: a blow average year defensively, worked a lot with Shane

919
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 7: Robinson and improving his jumps, improving just his decision making.

920
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 7: Obviously Ron Washington there maybe one of the best ever

921
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 7: infield guys that's come around, working a lot with a rise,

922
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 7: and and Bryce Eldridge, who's obviously triple A right now.

923
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 7: But you felt like that the defense, even what the

924
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 7: question marks, would be much improved. And last night it

925
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 7: was swappy. And that's the kind of what stood out

926
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 7: to me is that not necessarily you know, yeah, you

927
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 7: have some bad throws, you have some you know, a

928
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 7: poor decision by Ramason left throwing the ball to third

929
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 7: and Williamitt throws the ball away at second base, But

930
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 7: it was more just it was the range right up

931
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 7: the middle range. I think that's it's the balls that

932
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 7: not necessarily that you're bobbling or making bad throws, as

933
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 7: the balls that you're not getting to. And it really

934
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,720
Speaker 7: stands out when you have a guy like Logan Web

935
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 7: on the mound, who gets a ton of ground balls?

936
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 7: And uh, and when the when the balls that you know,

937
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 7: you look at on average the balls that are being

938
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 7: caught or being fielded compared to what's happening with with

939
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,479
Speaker 7: the Giants defense, you know that that that'll be something

940
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 7: we'll have to figure out as the season goes on.

941
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 7: But last night it just didn't look good. Just visually,

942
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 7: it didn't look good. So that that was my takeaways

943
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 7: from from from opening night. And and and really, how

944
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 7: I kind of see the team right now? Is it

945
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 7: defense is questionable, bullpen will have to wait and see. Uh,

946
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 7: I'm bullish on the on the rotation and in the

947
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 7: and I think the offense is going to be pretty good.

948
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sean, I mean, I don't think we need to,

949
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 2: you know, look too much into Logan Web yesterday it

950
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 2: was just a bad outing. And we saw today also

951
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 2: Paul Skeen's not not a good performance to start the season.

952
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 2: But how did you handle poor first starts of the

953
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 2: season back of the day where you waited all off

954
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 2: season to pitch again. And obviously it's the first start

955
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 2: of the season. You can move on, but how disappointing

956
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 2: is it to be like, damn, that's how I started

957
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 2: the season.

958
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 7: I never had a bad outing hope in the season,

959
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 7: of course, not, of course, I'm sure. Unfortunately, you guys

960
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 7: can probably go back to the archives and figure out

961
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 7: if I did or not. No, I absolutely did. Yeah,

962
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 7: And I remember pitching Opening Day in nineteen ninety eight

963
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 7: against the Astros in in the Astrodome and it didn't

964
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 7: go well. I mean, I came off an All Star

965
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 7: year in ninety seven. I confidenced with sky High, I

966
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 7: got the ball opening Day, and you know, it didn't

967
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,479
Speaker 7: go well. I I don't know how deep I pitched

968
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 7: in the game, but I don't think I even went

969
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 7: five innings in the game and gave up a few

970
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 7: runs and it didn't feel good. It's a big wet down.

971
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 7: And like you said, you know, Logan Web coming off

972
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 7: of solid spring and then really just dominant in the

973
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 7: in the WBC. You know he's expecting really good things

974
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,439
Speaker 7: going up against the Yankees only game of the night

975
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 7: or of the day, and uh, you know he he

976
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 7: has a couple of those outings a year where you

977
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 7: know he'll give he'll he'll he'll grind through five innings,

978
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 7: but he'll give up five or six spot, you know,

979
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 7: And that was just one of them last night. Unfortunately

980
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 7: I had to come on opening day. The thing is

981
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 7: is that he's not gonna he's not gonna think about

982
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,439
Speaker 7: it for very long. I mean, he's gonna he's gonna

983
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 7: flush it and he'll be And that's what makes him

984
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 7: so great is that he doesn't he doesn't carry that

985
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 7: with him for very long. Uh, He'll get back on

986
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 7: the bump and in between starts and he'll iron some

987
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,240
Speaker 7: things out, make some adjustments, and we'll probably see vintage

988
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 7: logan web in four days. So he takes it as

989
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 7: hard as anybody. I saw him in the spring after

990
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 7: just coming back to the WBC and he had that

991
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 7: one little tune up. Can't remember who it was against,

992
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 7: but he gave up I think five or six runs

993
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 7: and I looked at it as like, who cares? Right

994
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 7: spring training? You know, you got you got your bad

995
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 7: one out of the way. But he actually took it

996
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 7: to took it to heart. He was like, man, I

997
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 7: was a rough one yesterday and he was ticked off

998
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 7: about it. And that's the type of guy you love

999
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 7: to have on your rotation. Is that, especially your ace

1000
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 7: is that you want that guy to be the guy like, Hey,

1001
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 7: I don't accept poor outings no matter when they come.

1002
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 7: So you know, this was a spring training outing, so

1003
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 7: I think he's gonna take it hard. But I think

1004
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 7: by the time, well I know, by the time he

1005
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 7: gets back on the mountain in his next turn, Uh,

1006
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 7: that'll be a distant memory and you'll go out and

1007
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 7: pitch like we've seen Logan web pitch.

1008
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 4: I'm gonna shouan ask us here on the UMA guest line,

1009
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 4: how different does starts feel in March and April relative

1010
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 4: to like mid season when you've got the routine going,

1011
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 4: because then you know you're on the schedule for every

1012
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 4: five days or six if there's an off day. But

1013
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 4: how different does that start feel even having pitched in

1014
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 4: the WBC for him?

1015
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 7: Well, I mean, it's a game that actually matters to

1016
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 7: your team. And that's the and and the goal is

1017
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 7: coming to spring training every year with what it should

1018
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 7: be with every team, is it you want to be

1019
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 7: the last team standing. And so when when that game

1020
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 7: actulutely absolutely matters, uh, you know, to to the team's success. Uh,

1021
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 7: there's a lot of adrenaline that's involved in that game,

1022
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 7: and and then there's also you know, it's it's tough

1023
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 7: to control and and you know, you're talking about mid

1024
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 7: season now as you take the mound every fifth day

1025
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 7: spring training, a lot of day games. They've sprinkled in

1026
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 7: more night games in the spring to be a little

1027
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 7: bit more like the regular season. But you're playing a

1028
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:06,439
Speaker 7: lot of day games in the spring. All of a sudden,

1029
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 7: now you're playing majority of night games. Your your your clock,

1030
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 7: you know, changes a little bit, just just your inner

1031
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,439
Speaker 7: clock does. And so, yeah, take it takes a few

1032
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 7: starts to get back into the into the swing of things.

1033
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 7: But you know, some guys get off to just really

1034
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 7: good starts and then they struggle in the middle of

1035
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 7: the season. So there's really no rhyme or reason to it.

1036
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 7: But I think I think it really does. As you

1037
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 7: get the ball every fifty six day, you start to

1038
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 7: get into a routine, uh, you know, like like a

1039
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 7: regular season routine, and it becomes a little bit easier.

1040
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 2: Talking to Sean Estas on the UMA guest line. As

1041
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 2: far as the roster, there was one surprising move where

1042
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 2: Elise Mantos was waived in favor of Jared Olive. Were

1043
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 2: you surprised by that move And what'd you make of

1044
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 2: Luis Mantus's time as a Giant.

1045
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 7: I was actually really surprised. I mean they made it obviously,

1046
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 7: the last was the last day they made that decision,

1047
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 7: and they think the biggest thing was is that he

1048
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 7: was out of options, and and you know, they knew

1049
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 7: that there's a chain that they could lose them. I

1050
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 7: thought they would keep them for that reason, because you

1051
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 7: know you can you can send. The thing about it

1052
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 7: is is that you know you may lose all of

1053
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 7: it as well. But I think they just valued all

1054
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 7: of a little bit better than they did Matos and

1055
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 7: based on and and I don't think it had anything

1056
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 7: to do with the type of sprain that Matos had.

1057
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 7: I think it had everything to do with just what

1058
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 7: what what all of us provides to the team, and

1059
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 7: it's something that they just didn't have. And that's that's speed.

1060
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 7: I mean, the guy stole thirteen stolen They had thirteen

1061
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 7: stolen bases in spring training. I mean it was a

1062
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 7: track meet. Every time he got on the bases. I

1063
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 7: mean he was gonna steal no matter what, and he

1064
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 7: was going to be safe. I mean, the guy has

1065
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 7: you know, elite speed, so so it's something to have

1066
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 7: to play, plays elite defense. He does all the little

1067
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 7: things really well. I think they just loved his maturity

1068
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 7: and he's the guy they felt they would help the

1069
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 7: ball club win, you know, over the course of a

1070
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 7: full season, and he's always he's gonna do those little

1071
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 7: things well. I think with Matos, they just they I

1072
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 7: think they just had higher expectations for him. I remember

1073
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 7: and Pat Role talk about him when Pat was a

1074
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 7: hitting instructor in the minor leagues, about this, this guy

1075
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 7: is going to be This guy's the best hitting prospect

1076
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 7: that we have in the minor leagues at the time.

1077
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 7: Just his his bat speed, as back to ball skills.

1078
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 7: They loved him, and you know that's it's easy to

1079
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 7: see that sometimes in the minor leagues when you're facing

1080
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 7: i'll say, inferior pitching, but you're not facing big league pitching.

1081
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 7: But when you get to the big leagues, you've got

1082
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 7: to make some adjustments, right, I mean, the big league

1083
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 7: pitchers the book gets out on you and they're going

1084
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 7: to hammer the spots where you struggle. And if you

1085
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 7: don't make those adjustments in your swing, in your approach,

1086
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,240
Speaker 7: you're going to get exploited and you're gonna end up struggling.

1087
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 7: And I think that was the case with Mato's is

1088
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 7: that just never really quite made the adjustments they needed

1089
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 7: him to make, and because of that, they felt they

1090
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 7: had to make a decision between him and all of U.

1091
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 7: Do I think Matos can be a big leaguer, I do.

1092
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 7: I do I think he can be an everyday player.

1093
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 7: I actually do. Sometimes you need a little bit of

1094
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 7: a wake up call like this to kind of, you know,

1095
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 7: kick start. Maybe maybe you'll stop being as stubborn and

1096
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 7: make some adjustments, and then you know, some guys his

1097
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 7: careers can take off with different organizations. We'll have to

1098
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 7: wait and see on that, but I just think when

1099
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 7: it came down to those two guys, they valued all

1100
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 7: of a lot more on this roster than they did Matos.

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00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 2: A couple more minutes with Sean Estis on the Uma

1102
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,919
Speaker 2: guest Line, you mentioned the bullpen's a huge question mark

1103
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 2: this this season, Sean, and I just want to get

1104
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 2: your thoughts on Ryan Walker. A lot of pressure going

1105
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 2: into this season and seven blows saves a year ago,

1106
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 2: So what do you want to see differently from what

1107
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 2: Ryan Walker in this in this twenty twenty sixth season.

1108
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 7: More strikes. I think, you know, when he was coming

1109
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,399
Speaker 7: in and he was setting games, setting up games, it's

1110
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 7: a different type of pressure than it is when you're

1111
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 7: when you're closing games out. And I think, you know,

1112
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 7: he started off well as the closer. I mean, he dominated,

1113
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 7: and and then you start to struggle a little bit

1114
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 7: and you start to doubt not not only your stuff,

1115
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 7: but the ability to command pitches. I think that he

1116
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 7: just has just he has such great deception and the

1117
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 7: crossfire that he has his great arm angle where he

1118
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 7: creates a lot of movement and he's got two pitches

1119
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 7: that they're elite. One goes one way and the other

1120
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 7: goes the other way. And he's just a really tough

1121
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 7: at that, especially for right handed hitters. And I think

1122
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 7: he just had a ton of confidence because he didn't

1123
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 7: have a lot of He had a lot of success

1124
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 7: in the minor leagues, and then he got to the

1125
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,399
Speaker 7: big leagues and he just picked up right where left

1126
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 7: off well he started. You know, he actually dealt with

1127
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 7: little failure last year and didn't didn't deal well with it.

1128
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 7: And I think what he tried to do is tried

1129
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 7: to be better than he really needed to be. I

1130
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 7: think he tried to be too perfect. And when you

1131
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 7: do that, that's when you start to struggle. You start

1132
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,760
Speaker 7: that loose, loose command and you start to walk guys.

1133
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 7: And you know, how many times did we see him

1134
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 7: come in last year where he just he hit a

1135
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 7: batter or he'd walked the first batter, or you know,

1136
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 7: he just didn't have that command, And you know, I

1137
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 7: think I think he learned a lot from that. He

1138
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 7: did an interview with the NBC people when they came

1139
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:54,240
Speaker 7: down this spring, Him and Casey Schmidt and Spencer Bivns

1140
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 7: were all on the panel and someone asked him about,

1141
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 7: you know, what do you expected yourself this year? And

1142
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 7: he's fast. I learned a ton from last year. I

1143
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 7: learned tons from the failures that I have. It's gonna

1144
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 7: make me a better pitcher this year. I'm not gonna

1145
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 7: panic when things don't go well like they did last year.

1146
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 7: And he went out this spring and he didn't give

1147
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 7: up a run all spring. So I think he'll he'll

1148
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 7: he is he gonna be perfect? No, nobody is right.

1149
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 7: I mean, it's very difficult to run the table and

1150
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 7: saves in a year. He's going to have his hiccups,

1151
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 7: but I think it's how he deals with that failure.

1152
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 7: It's not going to prolong, right, It's not going to

1153
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 7: go from one blown save to three or four. It's

1154
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 7: gonna be Okay, that happened. I know what I need

1155
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 7: to do now to get back on track, and you

1156
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 7: can rely on him to take the ball the next

1157
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 7: day and get the job done. So that's my hope,

1158
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 7: and that's where I think his mind is right now.

1159
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 7: So I expect good things from Ryan Walker. I do

1160
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 7: because I think if there's one guy in that bullpen

1161
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 7: that really if you're going to focus on a guy

1162
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 7: that means the most of that pen, it's him, because

1163
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 7: there really isn't another guy that you can say, I'm

1164
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 7: gonna be able to trust in the ninth inning because

1165
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 7: quite frankly, nobody's done that. Nobody's done it in the

1166
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 7: ninth inning.

1167
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 12: Uh.

1168
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 7: And so he's the one guy that has had experience

1169
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 7: and success. So he's to me, the key to that

1170
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,439
Speaker 7: ballten this year, and I think it'll all trickle down

1171
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 7: from there and then you can figure out who your

1172
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 7: eighth to ninth or seventh inning guys are as as

1173
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 7: the games progress.

1174
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 5: Seawan asked us the voice you hear on the UMA

1175
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:21,959
Speaker 5: guest line.

1176
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 4: Giants open their day schedule tomorrow against the Yankees one

1177
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 4: thirty five. First pitch right here on the Sports Leader, Sean,

1178
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 4: I did find the ninety eight opener at Houston. I

1179
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 4: kind of remember this game like that was a kid,

1180
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 4: but I vaguely remember this game. You did it knocked around.

1181
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 4: But you know what, dude, I'm gonna give you. I'm

1182
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 4: gonna give you some problems. You guys won the game anyway,

1183
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 4: and you rope the double on one pitch and you're

1184
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 4: only a bet about that?

1185
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 7: Nice okay, first pitch, say thanks for focusing on the positive.

1186
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 3: You got to w man, you know what I mean?

1187
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 7: I got to w you didn't.

1188
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 5: You didn't get the debate, dude, Rob, I think that

1189
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 5: might have did.

1190
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 4: He came in two winnings and like middle relief and

1191
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 4: struck up five, didn't allow base runners, so five and

1192
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 4: the six guys, So hey, man, just you just got

1193
00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 4: to you gotta get.

1194
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 5: It going early, that's all.

1195
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 7: That's right, That's right. Well I got the bat going early, yeah, day,

1196
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 7: I got I got to get the arm going, right.

1197
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 4: I mean you're one of the dude, you're one of

1198
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 4: the better offensive. We had some good offensive pitchers at

1199
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 4: one play. I mean you had had a grand Slam

1200
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,320
Speaker 4: in your career. I know Russ was okay with the

1201
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 4: bat wood. He was great with a bat. Lev O

1202
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 4: could hit a little bit. We had some dudes to

1203
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 4: get swing.

1204
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 7: It without a doubt. I mean we we. I mean

1205
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 7: you mentioned all the guys that I was going I

1206
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 7: was going to tell you. I mean, those are four

1207
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 7: of the five guys in the rotation. Gardner I think

1208
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 7: was the fifth guy, Joe Nathan for a little bit.

1209
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:30,839
Speaker 7: Joe Nathan could handle the bat too.

1210
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 5: He was a short stop, you know.

1211
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, and Gardy. Gardy was Guardy wasn't it out either,

1212
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 7: but you know he was an elite like we were not.

1213
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 14: Like.

1214
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 4: Guy, You're great talking to him and always fun catching

1215
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 4: up and looking forward to talking to you throughout the year.

1216
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 5: Man, we'll do it again soon.

1217
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 3: Thanks Sean.

1218
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 7: Okay, thanks guys, great stuff.

1219
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 4: Man, Dude, I love getting to talk to giants from

1220
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 4: from my era as a kid. Like I was just

1221
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 4: thinking about that looking at that lineup, and I was like,

1222
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 4: now I got stuff. That's it's pinned in my brain

1223
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 4: for Richie. Now, Richard really are going to join us.

1224
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 2: A little bit later, Sean has a grand slam off

1225
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:00,760
Speaker 2: of Roger Climbers ripens.

1226
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's incredible.

1227
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 4: It's prety sweet. Yeah, they had some guys who could

1228
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 4: hit the giants. We've had good legacy. I mean, don't

1229
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 4: forget the last picture home run ever, Logan Web right,

1230
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and a home run the final at bat

1231
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 4: for a final home run for a picture before they

1232
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,879
Speaker 4: moved to University caged was Logan Web Did I.

1233
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 2: Tell you my encounter with Shawn Asses back in the

1234
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 2: day when I was producing, so it was just a

1235
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 2: fun celebrity run. So I was working weekends at the

1236
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 2: other station in the lake, Great Michael Urban was doing

1237
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 2: Inside the Bigs, and every weekend he had Shawn Estes

1238
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 2: coming studio.

1239
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 3: Now, Sean doesn't do elevators.

1240
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 5: He heally takes stare.

1241
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:31,240
Speaker 3: He's definitely afraid of elevator.

1242
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 2: So he comes in, he's riding his bike and he goes, hey, Derek,

1243
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 2: you mind going up to the twelfth floor with me?

1244
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 2: And I was like, well, you know, we gotta make

1245
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 2: a quick here, Sean. I gotta get back to the

1246
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,879
Speaker 2: studio goes, you have time to go up twelve flights

1247
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 2: of stairs with me?

1248
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 3: So I'm going upstairs with him.

1249
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 2: Yes, And Sean is in perfect shape, and I'm just

1250
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 2: huffing Hi puff.

1251
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 3: And he goes, damn, dude, I'm forty years old. You

1252
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 3: can't get through one flight of stairs. Good god man.

1253
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 3: I'm like, alright, Sean, you get on a peanut.

1254
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 2: I forgot about that was that him? That was him

1255
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 2: a year ago? And I remember, like Dave's like, go

1256
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 2: go get a glass of water. No, don't get another peanudge,

1257
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 2: Come on, Sean.

1258
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 4: That's pretty good, dude, that's pretty funny. I met Sean

1259
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 4: asked this. My dad was interviewing him at on Mornings

1260
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 4: on two like years ago.

1261
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 3: I mean I was a kid.

1262
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 4: I had to be like seven, and he showed I

1263
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 4: remember he was doing like some was ahead of opening day,

1264
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 4: and he showed me the He taught me as like

1265
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 4: a seven or eight. That must have been like eight

1266
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 4: or nine. He taught me the difference between a two

1267
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 4: seam and a four seamed fastball. Nice Seawan as did grips.

1268
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 4: I was like, pretty cool. Sean's yeah, he's a great dude, man,

1269
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 4: great stuff. From Seawan asked us, we'll talk to more

1270
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 4: Giants baseball little bit later. Our guy Richarralli is joining

1271
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 4: us for his weekly conversation at four fifty. We can

1272
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 4: talk more about that Giants era. When did Richie feel

1273
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 4: like his swing was informed at the start of the year,

1274
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:43,879
Speaker 4: Because I don't know if the Giants had it going

1275
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 4: last night, three sins, they go down to one of

1276
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 4: the better starters in baseball in Max Free Plus Andy

1277
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 4: Baggery to give us the reporter side of things after

1278
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 4: the game from Vaytello's angle last night, after the.

1279
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 3: Loss, we'll take a quick break. When we come on back.

1280
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 4: We continue to get into some of your stories, and

1281
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 4: we got we've got more to get to in terms

1282
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 4: of our funny and odd celebrity run ins. Plus, like

1283
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 4: if we're gonna go like low class celeb we're gonna

1284
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 4: mention my dad. Okay, you know what I mean, like

1285
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 4: B class I'll say that. I'll say that our guy

1286
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,879
Speaker 4: Pat h knowing if the Patt ahe crap section.

1287
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, had a little county. Yes, I got a run

1288
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 3: in with my.

1289
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 4: Dad yesterday at my dad's house. What in the got

1290
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 4: office a little bit later, Plus I did I did

1291
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 4: have that weird running with Gabe Kapler at that time

1292
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 4: on his birthday. I can tell you that's on his

1293
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 4: birthday too. I'll tell you that story again as well.

1294
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 4: We'll take a quick break. When do we come on

1295
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 4: back Danny's double dips. More to come, dirty work on

1296
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:29,479
Speaker 4: the sports Leader.

1297
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 3: Take a drink, DC got's of water. Don't eat another peanut.

1298
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 3: Take a drink.

1299
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 7: I'm done talking. I've done