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Speaker 1: The newsplay runs over from Wendy and Night and I

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Speaker 1: argue about politics. Come oning one de Shell. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to the Broke program.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Jean.

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Speaker 1: Let's begin with the politics of snow. Cianti used to

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Speaker 1: call it Smiley's taking it on the chin. Smiley saw

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Speaker 1: his shadow the other day's got six more weeks in winter?

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Speaker 1: And Mary Lou is it Mary Lou Tom that was

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Speaker 1: Mary Lou Nelson. Mary's not Mary Lou's not happy with

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Speaker 1: the streets in Providence and people walking the streets instead

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Speaker 1: of the sidewalks.

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Speaker 3: And I worry about people walking in the street because

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Speaker 3: where there aren't sidewalks, and I have noticed that, you know,

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Speaker 3: around the neighborhood, where the sidewalks aren't clear, people are

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Speaker 3: walking in the street, and I'm always worried for them.

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Speaker 1: Then let me change the parking bend and the trash collection.

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Speaker 1: What's going on, Wendy, the politics of snow. Smiley should

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Speaker 1: have done better by now.

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Speaker 4: Yes, there's no question about that.

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Speaker 5: You know, those was a certain age might remember a

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Speaker 5: long time ago, and it was a huge blizzard in

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Speaker 5: nineteen seventy nine. I was a kid, but I remember

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Speaker 5: it and a guy was facing re election in Chicago.

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Speaker 5: Who is Michael Ballant who was supposed to win easily

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Speaker 5: and this upstart Jane Byrne. He didn't have a chance

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Speaker 5: of winning and there was a massive snowstorm and he

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Speaker 5: didn't get the streets plowed and they weren't cleaned, and

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Speaker 5: Jane barn beat them in the Democratic primary in Chicago

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Speaker 5: nineteen seventy nine. And you can say, oh, that's a

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Speaker 5: long time ago, but this is a lesson. I mean,

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Speaker 5: David Morales is out there. He's talking of business people saying,

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Speaker 5: I can't get.

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Speaker 2: The customers here.

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Speaker 4: You know, the streets are I onplowed, nobody can park.

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Speaker 5: And this is the kind of thing that can undo

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Speaker 5: someone who runs on confidence.

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Speaker 2: This is the guy who ran and said I'll fix the.

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Speaker 5: Potholes and make sure the treasure collected and the streets

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Speaker 5: are plowed. And we know that the streets did you know?

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Speaker 5: I think people were working hard. I'm not maligning anybody was.

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Speaker 4: Out there plowing the snowstorm. It was hard to keep up.

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Speaker 4: But the decisions like the parking band, even.

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Speaker 5: Alorza as I recall, kept a band in place longer.

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Speaker 4: Than people would have liked, just to get these.

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Speaker 2: Streets cleaned of snow.

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Speaker 5: Now where you're going to put it, Well, you got

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Speaker 5: to be creative. But if you run on something and

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Speaker 5: then you fail at it, you open yourself up.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's what's happening right now.

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Speaker 1: Here's what I think. He's got to tough love toe cars, toe,

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Speaker 1: hundreds of them. If you have to slap everybody with

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Speaker 1: two who doesn't clean their sidewalk, there's nothing else he

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Speaker 1: could do. By the way, Morales envisions himself as Mom, Donny,

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Speaker 1: light up here and right now, Mom Donni's taking it

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Speaker 1: on a chin in New York for doing a lousy

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Speaker 1: job down there. Eight days later, this is Cuomo, who

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Speaker 1: you know. Say what you want about Cuomo. I think

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Speaker 1: he probably would have done a better job clearing the snow,

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Speaker 1: because that much she knows. As a governor, Cuomo blasting

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Speaker 1: Mamdamie on the radio in New York.

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Speaker 6: The mayor stands up and says, there's a twelve billion

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Speaker 6: dollar deficit and it was secreted by Mayor Adams. Shock surprise,

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Speaker 6: twelve billion dollar deficit.

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Speaker 2: Can't believe it.

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Speaker 6: Nobody told me Mayor Adams hit it. It was hidden

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Speaker 6: and you know what, Now I have to raise taxes

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Speaker 6: on the rich because of the twelve billion dollar deficit. Uh. Beloney.

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Speaker 1: By the way, one day you want to hear something,

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Speaker 1: this is stunner that's going to I think that you

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Speaker 1: spin your head. He's putting a convicted ex con in

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Speaker 1: charge of New York City's jails prisons Rikers Island. He's

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Speaker 1: an ex con.

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I you know, I can't defend Momdani's

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Speaker 5: you know, choices of staff people.

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Speaker 4: I can say that.

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Speaker 2: I can say that for Dave Morales. Getting back to Providence.

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Speaker 2: If you're Dave Morales, you have.

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Speaker 4: A record, right, you have a credibility of a record.

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Speaker 5: You've announced your a certain kind of politician, you have

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Speaker 5: an ideology. But you have an opportunity now, uh to

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Speaker 5: also go back to the basics of what voters frequently

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Speaker 5: care the most about, which is, you know, good safe schools,

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Speaker 5: good roads. This is what voters vote on. You know,

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Speaker 5: if you're going to get people out the door, this

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Speaker 5: is the most important thing. He can I think he

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Speaker 5: could shift a little bit in his rhetoric and he

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Speaker 5: doesn't have to give up his principles, but he could

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Speaker 5: talk about the things that voters care about.

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Speaker 2: The most and poke holes.

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Speaker 5: And I think in Smiley's record, because Smiley is a

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Speaker 5: pretty good record, is very good in the Brown gun crisis,

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Speaker 4: But this is a big fail, right.

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Speaker 5: I mean, if you anybody on the east side go

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Speaker 5: to Hope Street, there are mountains of snow. And when

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Speaker 5: you say he couldn't have done anything else on the

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Speaker 5: west side of Providence, what about having people overnight using

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Speaker 5: like movers, snow movers, pay overtime, you know, get the snow,

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Speaker 5: put it in trucks and get it out of here.

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Speaker 5: You know, this is and it didn't look like he

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Speaker 5: just didn't do anything right, like not even trying.

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Speaker 2: So I think that's.

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Speaker 4: What people want to see.

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Speaker 5: And there's an opening for Moralis if he's willing to

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Speaker 5: do it, to focus on the kinds of issues people.

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Speaker 2: Care more about. And if mom Donnie's going to.

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Speaker 5: Make these decisions, some of them are going to be

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Speaker 5: successful and some of them are going to backfire.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty typical.

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Speaker 1: Smiley never should have went to Washington the day after

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Speaker 1: this thing. A couple of days later, he was on

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Speaker 1: a radio me on Tuesday and went to wash from

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Speaker 1: mayor of conference. Are you kidding me? You're in the

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Speaker 1: middle of a crisis.

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Speaker 5: Michelle Woo did the same thing, but Michelle Woo just

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Speaker 5: got reelected in Boston.

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Speaker 2: That's the big difference.

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Speaker 5: But you look at Boston, New York, Providence, and DC

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Speaker 5: Democrat mayors northeastern cities, big snow and we see the

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Speaker 5: snow coming, not like this was a big surprise. I

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Speaker 5: mean it was coming, and they all have failed. And

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Speaker 5: I think this is why the Democrats have a problem.

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Speaker 5: You tell me government's going to work, and government's a

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Speaker 5: good thing, and I should pay my taxes, and you

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Speaker 5: want me to pay more taxes.

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Speaker 4: If you're Dan McKee.

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Speaker 5: I'm not a millionaire, but but you know millionaire should

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Speaker 5: pay more taxes. And then government doesn't work in the

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Speaker 5: most basic things you expected to do. And that, to

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Speaker 5: me is where Democrats gave Republicans the opening.

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Speaker 1: You know, I still Governor mckissa, and you a millionaire's tax.

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Speaker 1: You're going to chase anybody who has any money right

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Speaker 1: out of Rude Island. Do you know what his answer was,

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Speaker 1: They've already left. Listen to this, Listen to this.

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Speaker 7: Our competition is Massachusetts and Connecticut, and that claud group

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Speaker 7: that you just talked about they had already left the

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Speaker 7: hold on.

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Speaker 1: There's new people behind them. There's people every year that

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Speaker 1: make decisions, who're going to go because of what you're doing.

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Speaker 7: That's why let's get rid of the Social Security tax.

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Speaker 7: And that's one of the main driver is because people

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Speaker 7: who are not under that income level, which is the

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Speaker 7: like it's the overwhelming majority majority, right, they're making their

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Speaker 7: decisions on those dollars.

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Speaker 1: No, no, stop stop those Security has got nothing to

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Speaker 1: do with the rich people in Palm Beach. They'd rather

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Speaker 1: pay that tax than pay the millionaire's tax. Go ahead, Wendy,

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Speaker 1: they've already left us.

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Speaker 5: I think we have a really really really big budget,

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Speaker 5: and I mean really really really big budget. You know,

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Speaker 5: fourteen billion now we're only close to fifteen billion where

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Speaker 5: we are.

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Speaker 4: Just it's a huge budget for.

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Speaker 5: What one point one million people the latest count is.

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Speaker 5: You know, Nebraska's about our size, maybe one hundred and

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Speaker 5: fifty thousand people fewer, and they have.

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Speaker 2: Half our budget size half, you know.

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Speaker 5: So I think Democrats have to face reality that they

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Speaker 5: have got to figure out a way to cut some

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Speaker 5: spending and make government work a little better. Before they

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Speaker 5: ask people who've been successful most of the time.

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Speaker 4: It's not inheritance.

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Speaker 2: This is you know, people are earning money to pay more.

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Speaker 5: Now that may me not be popular in the Democrat Party,

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Speaker 5: but I don't see how you win elections across the

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Speaker 5: country or in Rhode Island. You ask people pay more money,

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Speaker 5: but the government they're already paying for isn't working the

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Speaker 5: way they wanted to. I just don't see how that

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Speaker 5: works politically.

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Speaker 2: And I'm waiting to see what Chakarci says.

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Speaker 4: I haven't heard. Maybe this SA has missed it.

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Speaker 2: What has the speaker said about the millionaire tax?

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: That's an old idea that's come up before. And well

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Speaker 1: we will you know si Carti's answer, We'll look at everything.

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Speaker 1: We'll weigh everything.

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Speaker 4: You have waiting for him, waiting for him to decide

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Speaker 4: whether to run for a governor.

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Speaker 2: Right, we haven't heard yet.

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Speaker 7: So here's here's Chakarchi on the millionaire's tax, whiching back

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Speaker 7: on June tenth.

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Speaker 1: January tenth, am I understanding this, right, a millionaire's tax?

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Speaker 1: Do we want to chase anybody that has a little

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Speaker 1: money out of Rhode Island? Well, how does that? How

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Speaker 1: does that stick with you?

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Speaker 2: So this is not new.

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Speaker 8: I've been speaking for six years. This proposal has been

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Speaker 8: on the table for six years, you know. I like

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Speaker 8: to say everything's on the table. I don't prejudge. Think

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Speaker 8: we'll have hearings on it and we'll listen to the

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Speaker 8: testimony around that. I think there's a little bit more

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Speaker 8: emphasis around this issue this year, a little bit more

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Speaker 8: support because of the current administration in Washington has been

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Speaker 8: very good to the top one percent and they have

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Speaker 8: gotten significant tax relief from the federal government. So I

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Speaker 8: think people at the state level, you know, and because

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Speaker 8: they've gotten that, we've getten less money for the state.

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Speaker 8: So people to say, looking at this again.

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Speaker 1: It's indefensible, but I'll find you accountant. So maybe we

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Speaker 1: can't get there. It's easy to find account So tell

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Speaker 1: you to take your money out of Rode Island. That's

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Speaker 1: that's an easy one. Find a state attorney who can't

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Speaker 1: die here. You can't die here. The state tax is

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Speaker 1: ridiculous point.

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Speaker 5: I mean proportionally proportionally to the amount of wealth, you know,

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Speaker 5: the state tax. I think for the vast majority of

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Speaker 5: RhD Holandercy state tax thing, it's one point eight million dollars.

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Speaker 2: I think you know that.

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Speaker 5: I don't think it's something that drives you out of

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Speaker 5: the state, but you know, you can be making Let's

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Speaker 5: say you're a small business owner and you make more

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Speaker 5: than a million dollars, Let's make you make one point

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Speaker 5: one million.

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Speaker 2: Dollars, and then you're going to pay a much bigger tax.

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Speaker 5: So I think the governor would have been more successful

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Speaker 5: sort of making a five million, because there's just fewer

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Speaker 5: people who might be affected by that, and maybe that's

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Speaker 5: not on the margin, it's not going.

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Speaker 2: To hurt as much.

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Speaker 5: But I just again, you have to make government work

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Speaker 5: for people before you ask them to raise taxes. You

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Speaker 5: have to show that you're working hard to get the

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Speaker 5: budget under control, and you have to perform the services

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Speaker 5: garbage plowing, potholes and by the way, let's all look

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Speaker 5: forward to the potholes we're going to see on our

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Speaker 5: roads in a couple of months from all this freezing

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Speaker 5: cold and wet and snow. And I think I just

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Speaker 5: don't think you can get away with it politically. I

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Speaker 5: just don't think it's gonna fly.

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Speaker 1: Wendy's thanks are coming in today.

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Speaker 2: Talk to you, so okay, take here,