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Speaker 1: Our Giants Round Team Blee.

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Speaker 2: Gives un Dave Blackfield and.

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Speaker 1: Pat Jack Bailey featuring Brian Murphy and his boombox, Marcus Bouchet,

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Speaker 1: Greg Silvershan Dickinson, Adam Copeland and Derek.

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Speaker 3: Poppa another walk off for him, and this time it's

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Speaker 3: a Grand Slam.

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Speaker 1: Live from fifty eighth Social at Oracle Park. Here's your host,

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Speaker 1: Adam Copeland.

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Speaker 4: It's Opening Day.

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Speaker 3: Happy Opening Day to everybody except for the La Dodgers.

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Speaker 3: Adam Copeland, Derek Poppa, Brian Murphy, Marcus Bouchet, Greg Silver,

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Speaker 3: John Dickinson with you live from fifty eight Social at

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Speaker 3: Oracle Park, getting you're ready for Opening Day as part

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Speaker 3: of our canby our Giants Roundtable.

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Speaker 4: What's up? Boys? What up? Dude?

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Speaker 2: Where's the where's the crowd? Get him in here? Come on?

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Speaker 5: Smattering, Hey, smattering, smattering, Finny, you guys are leading the

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Speaker 5: chairs like Curly last yearys hear the story about Curly

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Speaker 5: and the chest. He wouldn't do it, yeah, and then

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Speaker 5: he and then he just like he decided to have

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Speaker 5: like his send it moment where he's like blanket and

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Speaker 5: he got out there sitting on the.

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Speaker 2: Chairs going go Giants. You know, it was a flavor

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Speaker 5: Dude, his face was crimson, he was spittle was flying everywhere.

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Speaker 2: So come on, man, it's a big lineout and.

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Speaker 3: You guys are back your Friday morning for the morning show.

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Speaker 3: You guys are going that on opening Day. Its secondly

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Speaker 3: opening day across baseball because it is the first game

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Speaker 3: of the twenty twenty six season. But it's opening night

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Speaker 3: and we love our day baseball. I mean, we're gonna

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Speaker 3: get the sun out of get on Friday, but it's

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Speaker 3: gonna be a beautiful night here at the ballpark for

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Speaker 3: the Giants and the Yankees.

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Speaker 5: Fair to say, Giants have always been fined by opening day.

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Speaker 5: Your Oakland A's defined by opening night.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was always.

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Speaker 5: It was always how how you identified yourself as a

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Speaker 2: But I guess Netflix brought the check book.

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Speaker 4: Yeah we are yeah money, I heard, I heard.

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Speaker 3: I heard a man for now with you guys the

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Speaker 3: other saying yeah, you just you love a partner who

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Speaker 3: has a platform that's going to reach out to kids.

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Speaker 3: You love a partner that's it's forward thinking, and it's

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Speaker 3: in the streaming business. And I thought, and you love

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Speaker 3: a partner with deep pockets. That's exactly why the Giants

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Speaker 3: are opening on Netflix. If you look at the slate

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Speaker 3: though across baseball, if you were Netflix, this is the

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Speaker 3: only game you're picking. It's two marquee franchises going back

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Speaker 3: to New York City. You've got by Coastal awareness here.

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Speaker 3: It's the only game of the day. It is a

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Speaker 3: weird start to the season with the schedule being Wednesday

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Speaker 3: evening at five o five, and we'll have it for

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Speaker 3: you right here by the way on the Sports Leader

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Speaker 3: four oh five pregame will be with you until then.

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Speaker 5: Don't Cannedy's campaign against by Coastal things though, like yeah,

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Speaker 5: I get left in the South right up against by

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Speaker 3: We'll be watching the stripes to the bench, dripes our

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty six camby our Giants roundtable. So I obviously

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Speaker 4: Here, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: And Jill's telling Charles and Jill got into the staff here,

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Speaker 5: So that's that's twice right there, by the way, guys,

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Speaker 5: Is there a different feel to the start of this

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Speaker 3: I mean, I know a lot of the fasers are

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Speaker 2: I think so.

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Speaker 6: I think it is the the optimism and unknown of

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Speaker 6: As you know, not only do the Giants get to

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Speaker 2: So I think there is some juice.

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Speaker 6: And I also think, you know, people are people are

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Speaker 3: What do you think so, I mean in terms of

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Speaker 3: So everything that we've known from Giants baseball pitching in

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Speaker 3: It's his manager now, it's the first full year of

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Speaker 4: We don't need to. We're willing to pay you to

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Speaker 2: It's a swing on this league, all right.

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Speaker 3: It's a five hundred team, is what it is, and

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Speaker 3: So you said to me, I said, they only miss

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Speaker 4: Fraudile, yea.

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Speaker 3: And that's how I look at the last couple of

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Speaker 3: Last year, the d Backs won the Pennant a couple

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Speaker 7: And what's different is the Vaytello vibes, Like that's the

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Speaker 7: And I've been at the station since twenty eighteen. This

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Speaker 7: So yeah, I think the expectations are playoffs or bust,

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Speaker 3: And the under performance Derek might be tied, not might be.

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Speaker 3: It's I think it's directly tied to to Bob Melvin's departure.

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Speaker 8: No, no, absolutely, And I think that today, Yes, there's optimism,

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Speaker 8: We get to see raffiae old Devers for a full season,

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Speaker 8: the term that that Greg Silver used with Tim Ryan.

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Speaker 8: There is trepidation with the bullpen. There is trepidation right

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Speaker 8: And also like we're steering away from tradition. I think

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Speaker 8: where this is opening night and you're gonna have a

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Speaker 2: Head, not head, hands head, Thanks for the Adams family

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Speaker 8: We got Netflix involved, and again like that's just that's

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Speaker 4: Is going to be.

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Speaker 2: Now, that's what sport's gonna be.

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Speaker 8: Now we have streaming, like Rob Manfer went on with

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Speaker 8: adapt or die. That's the way that sports media is going.

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Speaker 8: But as far as tradition, I am I'm kind of

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Speaker 8: thrown off today because where's Murph's broom boomboxes?

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Speaker 5: That is not tradition because anything we it wouldn't be

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Speaker 5: the first time I can be our promo did not

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Speaker 5: deliver on a season. Great knowledge there, pop, After all

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Speaker 5: the all the hype and last year's boombox, I'm here

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Speaker 5: to report, uh, the incredible, the incredible case the hardy boys,

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Speaker 4: Probably what happened?

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Speaker 2: Don't turn the dude. Don't have teenagers, bro.

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Speaker 5: Don't Not only do they live freaking Marcus knows wet

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Speaker 2: So we promo, we promo, we promo? No boom box?

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Speaker 5: Some No Valley podcast is walking around and that's it

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Speaker 5: Nola Russell, come on. It means I'm gonna spin positive.

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Speaker 5: It means the Giants are no gimmicks, all business.

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Speaker 3: We're riffing on the the other said Marcus, A bigger,

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Speaker 3: Yes, it is our care. We are twenty twenty six

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Speaker 3: By the way, just to circle back Teddy Ball games,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, dude, Dan, but Will Clark would endorse it. I

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Speaker 5: win a bad time Hawaii Winners in the house, Marcus, Yeah, right, man,

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Speaker 4: Oh my god. Yeah, they're incredible.

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Speaker 2: You guys are unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: Man, give it up. Giving up to the listeners.

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Speaker 4: Will they deliver? We got to get into the Vitello

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Speaker 3: The first ever manager to be hired and go directly

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Speaker 1: the Sports Leader.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: I've always loved Opening Day. It just is fitting for baseball.

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Speaker 9: I got to disagree strongly now part of it is

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Speaker 3: So I had the voice of Giants manager Tony Vatello.

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Speaker 3: The Tony Vitello era begins today. We are live at

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Speaker 4: Roundtable on every day Dude.

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Speaker 3: The Giants and the Yankees on Netflix on opening days,

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Speaker 3: just as God intended. I mean, it's just like just

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Speaker 3: Game five.

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Speaker 2: Take me out to the streaming service.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I want to shout out Danny Dunn.

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Speaker 5: Oh, by the way, Tony d shots fired at Jim

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Speaker 4: To take it? I like him even more now.

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Speaker 5: The way we got to shout out Dan from Brentwood

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, back in the Orange.

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Speaker 5: He's coaching his daughter's uh cyo te ball softball team

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Speaker 5: And my man looks like he looks like Fello's cousin.

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Speaker 4: And some orange and some.

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Speaker 2: To rest peace.

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Speaker 3: Adam Copeland and John Dickinson, Greg Shilver, Derek Papa, Marcus Bouschet,

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Speaker 3: is we're year two now of the Buster Posey President

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Speaker 4: Right, he's the guy calling the shots.

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Speaker 3: I said before, it's sort of like the the Mark

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Speaker 4: Now this is a this is Buster's move, This is

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Speaker 3: I can't help but feel though the fans are, like,

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Speaker 3: But I can't help but feel like if Farahn we're

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Speaker 4: Oh God, So why is why is it doing? Why

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Speaker 5: One guy has credibility, the other guy is an analytics nurve.

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Speaker 2: There's no question.

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Speaker 5: And I did. I Jock blogged on it, the lightly

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Speaker 5: great sports writers. In Buster, we trust her, you know

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Speaker 5: what I mean? This is really truly our faith in

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Speaker 5: I heard somebody knocking it the other day.

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Speaker 5: Somebody was knocking like, I'm not sure about Buster. Was

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Speaker 5: I wasn't sure about the Buster posy. Oh no, it

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Speaker 2: But he's like, I'm very skeptical on the Buster high.

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Speaker 2: I'm like you were. I mean, if you've been around

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Speaker 5: I mean, the guy is an absolute freaking buttoned up

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Speaker 5: And we're gonna get into I'm sure the likes of

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Speaker 5: So so Tony Vaitello, I truly am in in Buster.

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Speaker 2: We trust her mode. I mean, we can't knock it

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Speaker 5: There's plenty of a knock There's no question every criticism

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Speaker 2: Be like, yeah, yeah, you're right, yeah yeah yeah. And

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Speaker 2: I hardly know her absolutely right.

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Speaker 7: If far Han made this move, we be ripping it

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Speaker 7: we would be ripping this move because we've never seen

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Speaker 7: It's a guy that has that experience. It's a guy

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Speaker 7: There are former managers in the clubhouse, and that's why

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Speaker 3: G D, how long will it take for Giants fans

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Speaker 6: Quite a while, I feel like I mean to be.

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Speaker 6: And again, it's gonna be tricky because nobody wants to

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Speaker 6: down far far on Outsider A's guy Dodger Guy Easy

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be really difficult.

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Speaker 6: For people to question is whether Buster pos You know,

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Speaker 6: But I think the thing that we're gonna be doing

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Speaker 6: He's new, he's new. You hire unconventional. In my book,

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Speaker 6: He gets to work his way into it. It to

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Speaker 3: Hey, baseball is such a game where you can feel

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Speaker 3: and you know the style of the team in the

438
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Speaker 3: way they're playing.

439
00:17:58,040 --> 00:17:59,600
Speaker 4: There's been no style for the Giants.

440
00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,479
Speaker 3: There's been just sort of aimless let's try to get

441
00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:03,720
Speaker 3: good players and plug these holes.

442
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Speaker 4: And they haven't developed enough talent.

443
00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:06,800
Speaker 3: There's still not a bunch of talent from the system

444
00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,080
Speaker 3: even on this opening day roster, and we'll run through

445
00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,240
Speaker 3: the roster. But because they've gone in this direction and

446
00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,399
Speaker 3: you're asking fans to sort of understand that this is

447
00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,159
Speaker 3: a new direction, we've got to be a bit patient.

448
00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,520
Speaker 3: My hope really is that I'll be able to know

449
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Speaker 3: at some point throughout the season what Tony Vitello ads

450
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Speaker 3: in terms of an energy standpoint, because that's what we

451
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Speaker 3: hear about playing aggressive baseball.

452
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Speaker 4: Will they play it in a different style. That's how

453
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Speaker 4: I want to evaluate.

454
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Speaker 3: But really the only way fans can evaluate, And Derek,

455
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Speaker 3: you and I've talked about this seemingly from like a

456
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Speaker 3: fan perspective on a manager is like did he make

457
00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,720
Speaker 3: the right bullpen moves? Like when he wins and they

458
00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,600
Speaker 3: make the right bullpen moves, you don't get credit because

459
00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,280
Speaker 3: the guy's got the out. You just go, what a

460
00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,359
Speaker 3: great game for the team. When they lose and you

461
00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,760
Speaker 3: think he brought in the wrong guy at the wrong time,

462
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Speaker 3: then you start to question everything. There's a lot of

463
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Speaker 3: voices that are going to be going into this. How

464
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Speaker 3: will we judge him?

465
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Speaker 4: Your one, Derek, I.

466
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Speaker 8: Mean it's gonna be based on success because he's not

467
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Speaker 8: gonna get a pass. I'm sorry, but like, just because

468
00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,760
Speaker 8: he's new with this, he has to win. This team

469
00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,960
Speaker 8: has been in mediocrity for the last four or five seasons,

470
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Speaker 8: and you know, we have the same phrase every year,

471
00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,080
Speaker 8: nothing like it. Something needs to change here at this

472
00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,399
Speaker 8: point with the San Fransco Giants. But as far as

473
00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,320
Speaker 8: Tony Vitello like and Buster Posey, I go back to

474
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Speaker 8: that press conference after they fired Bob Melvin, and I

475
00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,200
Speaker 8: think one of the best moves Buster Posey has had

476
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Speaker 8: as President Baseball Operations is telling the fan base we're

477
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Speaker 8: not going back to Bruce Bochi. We're going in entirely

478
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Speaker 8: a different direction. And I think that we all knew

479
00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:23,760
Speaker 8: that his first choice was Nick Hunley.

480
00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:24,760
Speaker 2: That did not happen.

481
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Speaker 8: Now we settled down to Tony Vitello, and it's unique,

482
00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,760
Speaker 8: it's something different. I think it makes the Giants fascinating

483
00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,520
Speaker 8: to the national media this year where people will be

484
00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,880
Speaker 8: following logo web. Can he be a cy young contender?

485
00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,680
Speaker 8: Can Raffield Devers be the guy that we saw in Boston?

486
00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,720
Speaker 8: And can't Tony vite Tello coach at the major league level.

487
00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,399
Speaker 8: And he's won over fans. It's clear, like when you

488
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Speaker 8: hear him talk, he won me over talking to fan

489
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Speaker 8: fest and he's got a personality. He's won at the

490
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Speaker 8: college level. People kind of compare him to Ted Lasso.

491
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Speaker 8: He has that effect. I think it's across sports now

492
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Speaker 8: where you bring in guys that try to build up

493
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Speaker 8: younger guys and not break them down.

494
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Speaker 2: But talk is cheap. Also, ted Lasso's not reality. You

495
00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:00,679
Speaker 2: have to win.

496
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's as a fan for me, it's sort of

497
00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:05,960
Speaker 3: I'm up two minds about it, right, Like, I see

498
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,600
Speaker 3: what the Dodgers have done, and I'm like.

499
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Speaker 4: You're not going to compete with that. You've got to

500
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Speaker 4: go a.

501
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Speaker 3: Completely different route and sort of what the A's did

502
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Speaker 3: right with the moneyball mentality, like that was coming to

503
00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:15,840
Speaker 3: the game at some point, but they said, we're not

504
00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,720
Speaker 3: gonna be able to compete with these teams that are

505
00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:21,280
Speaker 3: spending all this money. We lost Giambi, we lost isring Housen,

506
00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,200
Speaker 3: so we've got to figure out a different way to compete.

507
00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,159
Speaker 3: If this is the Giants saying we're thinking outside the

508
00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,200
Speaker 3: box and trying to go a different way and figure

509
00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,720
Speaker 3: out a different route into an eighty three win team

510
00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,720
Speaker 3: that gets you into the playoffs, then I'm okay with

511
00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:33,800
Speaker 3: that logic. The other part of it, for me as

512
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Speaker 3: a fan, goes, dude, shoe hail Tani's sitting like three

513
00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:37,840
Speaker 3: homers in the World Series games, So I just went

514
00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:39,560
Speaker 3: back to back and the Giants are like, let's go

515
00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,399
Speaker 3: with a dude who's never been around Major League Baseball,

516
00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,879
Speaker 3: which is I'm like, that's a bit frustrating and if

517
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Speaker 3: it doesn't work immediately, I will be upset. I think

518
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Speaker 3: The only way I will judge this a success this year,

519
00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,320
Speaker 3: and it's unfair, is by a playoff appearance. They've got

520
00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,520
Speaker 3: to hit the ground running, and he doesn't really get

521
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Speaker 3: the rope or the leeway that we give some other

522
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Speaker 3: teams or managers in a red Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Well, I'm gonna jump in and say copes on the

524
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Speaker 7: topic of think and outside the box. Let's look at

525
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,919
Speaker 7: the past four years post twenty twenty one.

526
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Speaker 2: We all know that was kind of an anomaly.

527
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Speaker 7: Yeah, they had two years with Gab Kapler five hundred

528
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Speaker 7: baseball new school analytics.

529
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,640
Speaker 2: All that came out to two years.

530
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Speaker 7: With Bob Melvin old school baseball five hundred record.

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Speaker 2: So they've gone old school, they've gone new school.

532
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Speaker 7: Why not go outside of the box and see if

533
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Speaker 7: Tony Vitelo can bring you something different, bring you different energy.

534
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Speaker 7: We'll see if it lasts one hundred and sixty two games.

535
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Speaker 7: But we also what happened in June and July and

536
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,720
Speaker 7: August last year when they lost fourteen of fifteen at home, Like,

537
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 7: this was a team that did not have that energy.

538
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,359
Speaker 7: So maybe Tony Vitelo does bring that energy, and maybe

539
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,920
Speaker 7: that's the difference of winning a few more ballgames and

540
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Speaker 7: getting to the postseason. William Domind said the other day,

541
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Speaker 7: we want to improve by having more fun this year. Well,

542
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:46,640
Speaker 7: it's easier to have fun when you win.

543
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Speaker 4: Games, of course.

544
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Speaker 3: So actually, something I said to JD in the first

545
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Speaker 3: hour of our show today, and I want to explain

546
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Speaker 3: the context behind the statement. I said, I don't think

547
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Speaker 3: it's necessarily a playoff berth that will define success.

548
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Speaker 4: I do think they're away.

549
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Speaker 3: They could not make the playoffs, and you could look

550
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 3: back at it and say that's successful. Now what I

551
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,159
Speaker 3: mean by that though here Now that's fine, and you

552
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:08,120
Speaker 3: could totally disagree.

553
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Speaker 1: I do.

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00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,639
Speaker 3: I think the how is gonna matter. Let's say they

555
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,680
Speaker 3: win eighty seven games, they don't make the postseason, right.

556
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Speaker 4: Fair enough?

557
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,160
Speaker 3: Then you ask yourself, Okay, were you in the race

558
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 3: from start to finish? How healthy were you? Did you

559
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 3: add or sell at different times with the team, like

560
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 3: you know, did you play clean baseball?

561
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 4: Did you get in your own way? Did you feel

562
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 4: like you gave away wins?

563
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Speaker 3: Like those are all pure that you're going to be

564
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Speaker 3: asking And if you can say that the answer to

565
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 3: a lot of those questions is on the more positive side.

566
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Speaker 3: And then at the same time, have the unequivocal expectation

567
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 3: that the next year you have to take that jump

568
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Speaker 3: and get into the postseason. Then I think in the

569
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Speaker 3: literal sense, it's not playoffs or buss. But by and large,

570
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,879
Speaker 3: a team that picks the playoffs is probably gonna be

571
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Speaker 3: how we defined the season or not. What I mean,

572
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Speaker 3: did I have junture if they won eighty seven and

573
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,920
Speaker 3: didn't get in, it would feel like ninety three. It's

574
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Speaker 3: like nineteen eighty three had a good year. Nine Yeah,

575
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:01,880
Speaker 3: but no nine they weren't really in the hunting. Fewer

576
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,120
Speaker 3: teams made the playoffs. Then they did eighty eight wins.

577
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Speaker 3: But I don't think I came to a lot of

578
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 3: games on it. I don't feel like that team that

579
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 3: seemed like the team that went on a run. But

580
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,360
Speaker 3: Boaji was in a lame duck year. They were coming

581
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 3: off with seventy something wins and they get Linsa, come

582
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,440
Speaker 3: into a second side young season. Uh, they win eighty

583
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,879
Speaker 3: eight games, They find Romo, they start building the bullpen,

584
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 3: Wilson becomes the closer. Like that's really when things started

585
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 3: to come into form. But we still didn't see Buster

586
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 3: Posey yet. So Crawford was still years away. Bumgardner debuted

587
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Speaker 3: the next year. You know nine, you said eight.

588
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Speaker 5: I think you've been O nine Yeah, yeah, I meant no,

589
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 5: I meant nine nine Yeah. Eighty three wins got in

590
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 5: last year the Reds got him in. But I agree

591
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Speaker 5: with you Greg on that it is about like how

592
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 5: they go about it. Sure, a couple of things to

593
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Speaker 5: be wrap.

594
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Speaker 4: I know we got a break.

595
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Speaker 5: A couple of things. One is, uh, look at you

596
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,679
Speaker 5: on the clock, I know, right, Uh, they are expected

597
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 5: to win, now, Jad was saying like patients, So they

598
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Speaker 5: were not. I don't think fans are they signed?

599
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,200
Speaker 2: Think there is any No. They signed Harrison Bader to

600
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:53,879
Speaker 2: what what?

601
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 9: How?

602
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 2: How short is his contract? Was it? Two years?

603
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 5: They signed Luisa Rise to a one year deal? Right,

604
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 5: they traded for raffis right? This is not Hey, guys,

605
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 5: you gotta like these kids grow with us. No, he

606
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 5: I mean eventually, I think Buster wants to get to

607
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 5: a point where Bryce Eldridge, bo Davidson to court, to

608
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 5: Dakota Jordan, Mauiohuna, who the josh you are all these

609
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 5: He wants to get to that point where those guys

610
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:17,679
Speaker 5: are the guys who are doing it. But I think

611
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,360
Speaker 5: right now he's building to go in so I don't

612
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Speaker 5: think I agree. I think Buster, if he was sitting

613
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 5: right here, said no, guys, even though Tony is new,

614
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 5: he's got to get to the play I think Tony

615
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 5: probably knew that.

616
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Speaker 2: When he took the job too, Like this is that

617
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Speaker 2: this team's built to win.

618
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Speaker 5: You have Rafael Frickin' Dev's on your team, bro, So

619
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Speaker 5: I would say, like, you know, what is our patient's

620
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Speaker 5: level with Tony.

621
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Speaker 2: No, he's got to make the playoffs.

622
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Speaker 5: I'm not going to fire him after a year unless

623
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Speaker 5: it's a disaster, Unless Krug suggested he might not make

624
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 5: it to the end of the year that Kirk Casally

625
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 5: was ready to.

626
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Speaker 4: Take because he works for the organization.

627
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Speaker 5: It was a smoking hot take, dud KRUGI kama the hot.

628
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Speaker 5: At some point, I just want to get this out

629
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Speaker 5: before I forget. We're gonna have to address at some

630
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 5: point that this team was evaluated by Forbes as a

631
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Speaker 5: top five revenue team in.

632
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Speaker 2: Baseball and they are twelve, thank you, in baseball.

633
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 5: That is a gigantic, Freakin Bibar sized elephant in this

634
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 5: room right now that everything we say comes back to

635
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 5: that bab Bar everything we say comes back.

636
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Speaker 2: To Dumbo, Babar sell you Mount Elephant More. I don't

637
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 2: know what you got Barnim and Bailey?

638
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 4: Who forget?

639
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 2: Can you give him couple of four?

640
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 4: I don't know we need one more?

641
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 2: I got Bombo.

642
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 4: Stop. Well there you got it. Take a quick break.

643
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Speaker 4: We are live for fifty eight Socials on twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: Am.

645
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Speaker 4: We are giants round table. Dude.

646
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Speaker 3: We got Elep Mount Elephant More and we got ted

647
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 3: Williams frozen head. We're talking vite dude, Any chance I

648
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,640
Speaker 3: get to talk. I'm a teddy get teddy bark dude,

649
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 3: so am I I know his head get hit three ten.

650
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Speaker 3: I'm telling them speak of it today.

651
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Speaker 4: He could do it.

652
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 3: When we come on back. We'll get into some of

653
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 3: this roster. Uh, some moves that I wasn't totally expecting.

654
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 3: Luis Monto's gone.

655
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Speaker 4: That's it. They put him on waivers.

656
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Speaker 3: We've got the opening day lineup for both of these

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Speaker 3: teams is Logan Web. He's going up against Max Freed

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Speaker 3: and uh, it'll try to get Aaron Judge out, but Judge.

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Speaker 5: And one last thing I want to add on this

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Speaker 5: whole thing, is this this schedule to start, we were

661
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Speaker 5: talking about Paton, Yeah, and the perception of the first

662
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Speaker 5: twelve thirteen games. So that teams well three of the

663
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Speaker 5: top four payrolls. We're talking payrolls. Phillies, Mets, and Yankees

664
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Speaker 5: are three of the top four pay rolls. Padre is

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Speaker 5: not far behind.

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Speaker 2: And the other part of it, too, to me is

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Speaker 2: just real quick.

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Speaker 6: It's the fact that I think there was a belief

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Speaker 6: that last year's team should have been better, and that Vitello,

670
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Speaker 6: specifically in the mind of Buster Posey, is gonna give

671
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Speaker 6: them something that Bob Melvin didn't. Then, to me, that's

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Speaker 6: the thing that he's gonna news. You have to hold

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Speaker 6: him accountable to that. Yeah, if Buster believed.

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Speaker 3: That, you guys talk so much, I have to say

675
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Speaker 3: it again though we went too far. We're live for

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Speaker 3: fifty eight. Socialis the twenty two. Can't be our giants

677
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Speaker 3: round table. You gotta do the rap and then there

678
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Speaker 3: can't be too much after it. You know what, We're

679
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Speaker 3: gonna take a quick break the heart. When we come

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Speaker 3: on back, I'll get you guys to line up. We'll

681
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Speaker 3: get into the roster. Shut up the sports.

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Speaker 1: This is the twenty twenty six kN B are Giants

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Speaker 1: roundtable on the Sports Leader. Let's get back to fifty

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Speaker 1: eight Social and your host Adam Copeland.

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Speaker 3: We're alive from fifty eight Social. It's our twenty twenty

686
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Speaker 3: six can bet opening day?

687
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Speaker 2: Pretty good?

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Speaker 4: Get a good crowd out here.

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Speaker 3: Come on bye, it's a beautiful day. Getting ready for

690
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Speaker 3: some baseball, some evening baseball on Netflix. Pregame starts at

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Speaker 3: four oh five right here on the Sports Leader. First

692
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Speaker 3: pitch at five o five, Max Freed against Logan Web.

693
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Speaker 3: We'll be with you until pregame and then the return

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Speaker 3: of You're getting some crook and kipe around the park,

695
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Speaker 3: right you get the this date and Giants history, some.

696
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 4: More Tony V, some more V. Are we getting some mill?

697
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Speaker 4: Today's V, Today's V, Today's bye.

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Speaker 5: By the way, we've talked about this, Darren Chant's toughest

699
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Speaker 5: a sign of this year is gonna be editing the

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Speaker 5: John Miller Tony V.

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Speaker 4: Tight.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, those are two guys who are not tight. So

703
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Speaker 5: that dude DC's already freaking. He's like cracking his knuckles,

704
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Speaker 5: ready to go. And by the way, everybody here Darren

705
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Speaker 5: Chan's audio tribute this morning, seven fifty to eight ten.

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Speaker 2: Do you guys, hear that that incredible? Were you emotional?

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Speaker 2: Pedlum of Mike? Mike emotional listening to that thing?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 2: You got in your fields, didn't you?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 2: We had people The text line was like a slot

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Speaker 2: machine this morning.

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Speaker 5: It was Darren Freakin' chan legend, audio legend, Washington High

714
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Speaker 5: Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 4: Oh about that?

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Speaker 3: About that anyway is problem DC knowledge. So we've got

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Speaker 3: we've got opening day here, first pitch five oh five?

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Speaker 3: Do you guys want the line up for tonight?

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Speaker 2: Sure? All right?

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Speaker 4: So sounds like it feels like a big, big line up.

721
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Speaker 2: Do we do like they do it in high school?

722
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Speaker 2: Like softball? You need to say the name and then

723
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Speaker 2: we double clap? Sure, yea if you want? Or is

724
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Speaker 2: that too close to roll call Louisa Road tonight time?

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Speaker 4: Und high school?

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Speaker 5: Be careful, you know what doing roll call in the

727
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Speaker 5: bleacher Marcus might be leading roll call out in the bleacher.

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Speaker 4: Code. I don't need that. Here's here's the Giants line

729
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Speaker 4: up for opening day.

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Speaker 3: Luisa Rise, the new second baseman, starts off leading off

731
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Speaker 3: at second base. Matt Chapman back second at third base.

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Speaker 3: Raphaele Devers hits third at d H Today Adamas it's

733
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Speaker 3: fourth at short hitting fifth in right field.

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Speaker 4: You guys are all off. Ellen Ramos hits hit sixth

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Speaker 4: in left field.

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Speaker 3: Casey Schmidt starting today at first base, hitting seventh, Pact

737
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Speaker 3: Bailey hits eighth behind the plate, and then Harrison Bader

738
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Speaker 3: hits ninth in center field. Good to have Vader out there.

739
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Speaker 3: I mentioned before we went to break and by the way,

740
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Speaker 3: here's what the Yankees are going. Cheers boys, by the way,

741
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Speaker 3: cheers everybody year, Grisham, Judge Bellinger, Rice, Stanton Chisholm, Caballero, McMahon,

742
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Speaker 3: and then Wells.

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Speaker 4: Is the line of the Yankees are going.

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Speaker 2: I need this guy to evaluate it here.

745
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Speaker 3: What say it again, Grisham, Judge Bellinger, Rice at first base,

746
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Speaker 3: Stanton Dhing, Chisholm, Caballero, McMahon at third, and then Wells surprises.

747
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Speaker 7: I mean, not the best opening day lineup that we've

748
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Speaker 7: seen from the Yankees over the last couple of years.

749
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Speaker 7: I really don't know what the Yankees playing was this offseason.

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Speaker 7: We talked to Nick Detruro this morning, that didn't been

751
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 7: any cash. They're showing up to town with essentially the

752
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,479
Speaker 7: same team they had last year, minus a few bullpen

753
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 7: pieces Garrett Cole Carlos were down not ready to go.

754
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Speaker 4: So just like the Giants.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, essentially one team as Eric.

756
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Speaker 3: Judge once he judge, and one team's got got Raphael Devers,

757
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Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

758
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Speaker 4: So here is a Yankee killer who has been in

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Speaker 4: his career.

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Speaker 3: Here's the uh any any surprises for you guys in

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Speaker 3: the in the roster decisions, We'll go with the pitching first. Uh,

762
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Speaker 3: Lefty Ryan Barocki who we don't even know you too,

763
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Speaker 3: Barocki for every Giant they just showed up and.

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Speaker 4: He's on the team. JT.

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Speaker 3: Brew Baker out of the bullpen, Jose Bouto they acquired

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Speaker 3: from the Mets last year. Matt Gage who pitched really

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Speaker 3: well last year. Adrian Howser. By the way, Matt Gidge

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Speaker 3: checking in a to sixty one?

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Speaker 4: How about that? What's Eric Miller checking in sixty nine?

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Speaker 4: Two big lefties.

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Speaker 5: By the way, they're carrying Kyle Shanahan online too, Bro,

772
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Speaker 5: he needs him, he needs him from the left guard.

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Speaker 3: They're carrying three lefties out of the bullpen. Can Win

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Speaker 3: also makes the team, as does a Ryan Walker. As

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Speaker 3: the close of Eric Miller's your third lefty.

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Speaker 2: Top of my head.

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Speaker 5: Every question we had about the bullpen is reaffirmed by

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Speaker 5: what they had.

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Speaker 2: Caleb Killian unproven.

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Speaker 4: J T.

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Speaker 2: Brew Baker unproven. Uh, Ryan BAROCKI actually has proven, believe

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Speaker 2: it or not.

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Speaker 4: He's not approval with us.

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Speaker 5: There's a third right hander and forgetting right now, give

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Speaker 5: me the third right hander team win. That's the third

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Speaker 5: another one, so Win Killy and brew Baker. Those are

787
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Speaker 5: guys like, yo, what now Marcus was talking up Keaton

788
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Speaker 5: Win today. Caleb Kenny's kind of a far on genius.

789
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Speaker 5: They traded him for Chris Bryant and got him back.

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Speaker 5: Now they got him back. So I do like the

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Speaker 5: idea of three lefties.

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Speaker 4: I do like that.

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Speaker 2: At times they had did they have like none or

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Speaker 2: one one?

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Speaker 5: So hey, Freddie Freeman and show, hey, you're on notice,

796
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Speaker 5: we got three lefties coming at you here.

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Speaker 4: So you need him.

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Speaker 3: In the National League West, it seems used to have

799
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Speaker 3: to have one day to face Bury. Every team in

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Speaker 3: the NL West had one. Justine Rosco was out there

801
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Speaker 3: like forty five years old.

802
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Speaker 2: Who was my brother in Colorado? The lefty who he no, no,

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Speaker 2: the brother Ray King.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he was a left m Yeah, and didn't Bonds.

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Speaker 2: Take it deep in the tenth inning of the birthday game.

806
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but that was a Braves game. Yeah that was ky.

807
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Speaker 4: We are going, oh yeah for books off my sister's shelf.

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Speaker 2: I ran in and it was right in your hearty

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Speaker 2: way give him.

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Speaker 3: He gave him a walk off the week before that

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Speaker 3: same week, I was at the game in Oakland? Did

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Speaker 3: Germain die in the thirteenth same week he gave it

813
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Speaker 3: up two walk.

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Speaker 4: Off home runs King did.

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Speaker 5: Yeah that was a lefty, righty though, Yeah, that was

816
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 5: so anyway. I mean, yeah, guys, I mean three lefties

817
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 5: is good. But there's a lot of It's exactly what

818
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 5: we thought. There's a lot of unproven stuff there.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 4: I'll say you this.

821
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Speaker 7: We showed up to the playball lunch yesterday and Caleb

822
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 7: Killing didn't even have a name or a number on

823
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Speaker 7: the back of his jersey.

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Speaker 2: That's how new he is to this roster.

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Speaker 7: Great story there, but yeah, outside of that, there's gonna

826
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Speaker 7: be a ton of questions with the bullpen this year.

827
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Speaker 2: Murp mentioned it. I'm high on Keaton Win. His fastballs

828
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 2: open the high nineties.

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Speaker 7: Now with that splitter combination, I think he can get

830
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Speaker 7: some guys out. The one name I was surprised not

831
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Speaker 7: to see in the bullpen t mac Trevor McDonald. I

832
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Speaker 7: thought maybe he would get a shot after the way

833
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Speaker 7: he pitched in spring training, but maybe they want to

834
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Speaker 7: keep him and kind of build him up as a starter.

835
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Speaker 3: Any surprises for use over all the bullpens, not necessarily.

836
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Speaker 3: I mean, there was gonna be a lot of questions,

837
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Speaker 3: and that's kind of the one area because of all

838
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 3: the unknowns and unprovens where I'm not gonna react too

839
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Speaker 3: much into the twenty six man opening day roster as

840
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 3: far as that goes, because look, if last year taught

841
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 3: us anything, you can never have enough arms. So just

842
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 3: because it is this way at the start, I'm more

843
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 3: concerned with Ken Ryan Walker revert back to twenty twenty

844
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 3: four Ryan Walker rather than what we saw with bumps

845
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 3: in the road last year, as opposed to the options

846
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Speaker 3: of names that could be out there in the sixth, seventh,

847
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 3: and eighth in it.

848
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Speaker 4: I think a lot about that was pitch selection too.

849
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Speaker 3: They talked about his usage being higher on the sinker

850
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 3: last year, and in I guess the effect of that

851
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 3: was he stopped getting strikeouts against right handed hitters that

852
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 3: dropped by like ten percent last year, which is something

853
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 3: he's got to get over and can't keep giving up the.

854
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 4: Home run ball.

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Speaker 3: In terms of the rest of the roster, kind of

856
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 3: a surprise to me that Luis Monts was just Wow,

857
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 3: we just offered up nut. Jared oliverm made the team,

858
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 3: which I like that, and you hear that. We'll talk

859
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 3: about Bryce Eldridge. Eldritch said that he thought he came

860
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 3: in they wanted him to have more attitude, and I

861
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 3: don't think he really took the role, and he said

862
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 3: he was a bit uncomfortable. I think they're looking for

863
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 3: guys who were going to go and take a job,

864
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Speaker 3: and I liked it. All of them made the roster.

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Speaker 6: They gave it to a guy who earned it over

866
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Speaker 6: a guy who's been here that you wanted to get

867
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Speaker 6: another look at.

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Speaker 2: I personally think that that's a great move.

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Speaker 6: We know what Matos did and couldn't do, and if

870
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Speaker 6: he goes on to do it somewhere else, so be it.

871
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 6: It's about building the best team for this year. And

872
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 6: I think sometimes you know a guy like oli A,

873
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 6: sometimes you need a role player to play that to

874
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 6: be a role player and I think Matos was somebody

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Speaker 6: that you always were thinking could be more than that.

876
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 4: But was he ever really good when he had to

877
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 4: be a role player?

878
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 5: No, No, is that greg Or Blanco like that kind

879
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 5: of thing that I'm telling you guys, we're seeing Buster

880
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 5: build a team differently, like he's to me, Christian Costs

881
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 5: is Jared Oliva. Jared Olova is Christian Coss. I don't

882
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 5: know if those guys would have been on far Han

883
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:27,760
Speaker 5: game teams.

884
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 2: I'm not sure.

885
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 3: No, yeah, I or they to be here for a

886
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 3: week and then they go back down, right right, there's

887
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 3: nobody here to stay in.

888
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 7: Moves like that tell me that Buster and Tony are

889
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 7: more serious about winning this season.

890
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 2: They're not worried about the future.

891
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 7: They're not worried about whether or not Luis Montos will

892
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 7: turn into an Elliot Ramos, who became an All Star

893
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 7: at twenty five years old, Like these are moves that

894
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 7: are going to help him win this weekend against the

895
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 7: New York Yankees.

896
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I'm sorry, go ahead, Derek.

897
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 8: I'm normally surprised with anything with the with the bullpen,

898
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 8: because we knew coming to the season it was gonna

899
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 8: be a huge question Mark and we knew that Ryan

900
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 8: Walker and Eric Miller are gonna be there. Besides that,

901
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 8: I have I mean, honestly, I have no idea. It's

902
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 8: a lot of names from the past, it's a lot

903
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 8: of new names too. And I'm with Cary Crowley where

904
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 8: if it doesn't pan out with the bullpen, you can

905
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,720
Speaker 8: make a move to Triny Casey Schmidt or and Elliott

906
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 8: Ramos later in the season and get another arm. But

907
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 8: as far as the move yesterday with the Luis Montos

908
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 8: and Jared Oliva, like that was a little surprising considering

909
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 8: that Bryce Eldridge and to make the roster, But I

910
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 8: think we know at this point who Louis Montos is. Honestly,

911
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 8: for me, the only time that I was truly impressed

912
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,720
Speaker 8: was that one weekend May of twenty twenty four.

913
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 4: Where he's player of the week.

914
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 2: You always player of the weekend D eleven RBIs.

915
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 4: He was just aanity run exactly and it was just fair.

916
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 2: It was just too inconsistent with him. So it's the

917
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 2: same thing.

918
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 8: You know, you move on from Marca Luciano or Joey

919
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 8: bart and you're unfortunately that doesn't pan out.

920
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 2: It's a new regime. You make changes.

921
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,720
Speaker 5: But yeah, I think that we know what Luis Monto's

922
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 5: was at this point. Big question is is this a

923
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 5: knock on Giants player development? Yes, Marco, Luciano, Joey bart

924
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 5: Luis Matos are all guys we were sold a lot

925
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 5: on and they.

926
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 4: Didn't develop them, and they're all gone by twenty five.

927
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean this is I mean, this is what

928
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 5: what Randy Winn and the new you know, they gotta

929
00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 5: develop man. We were talking about the forty nine ers,

930
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 5: remember that, like the Niners got that whole draft class

931
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 5: last year. The Niners success depends on they got to

932
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 5: battle up these guys, right and the Giants right now.

933
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 5: You look at Luciano Matosen, But those are three guys

934
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 5: we thought we're gonna be cornerstone starters on this team,

935
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 5: like twenty twenty five opening day, Joey Barton the crouch.

936
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 6: Isn't it refreshing though that they're willing to now just

937
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 6: move on from that and to stop chasing it, Like

938
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 6: I think there is something to be said about all right,

939
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 6: it was a mistake you didn't develop them. Whoever's fault

940
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 6: it was prior regime, this regime, both regimes, whatever it

941
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 6: is cut bait, right now, move forward with somebody that

942
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 6: you think you can help you in the short term,

943
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 6: and start to evaluate your own young players that you've

944
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 6: brought in in this regime as the guys that I.

945
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 5: Mean, Buster's making big decisions here, Man's that's a farewell

946
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 5: to a very He was a pretty touted guy. I

947
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,760
Speaker 5: remember his debut game in Saint Lui. We're so excited.

948
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 5: Ben pat Burrow was a big advocate of him. We

949
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 5: had him on Bobby and we had Bobby Evans on.

950
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 5: Remember we talked about him growing up in Venezuela.

951
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 2: And all that. There were high hopes man. So this

952
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 2: is a loss to this farm system.

953
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 4: But it's funny.

954
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 5: The text line this morning was more like they were like, yeah,

955
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 5: you know what I'm not. I'm not too broken up

956
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 5: over there.

957
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 4: So when you get tired, yeah you get I was

958
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 4: really broken.

959
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 2: Up over But there's Sir Jonathan Kamenga.

960
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

961
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 7: But I'll say this on the topic of cutting ties, like, yes,

962
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 7: it makes sense if that's the decision you want to make, that's.

963
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 2: Best for the organization.

964
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 7: But it's almost like their hand was forced because they

965
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 7: ran out of options because of the cogsit rosters, the

966
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 7: ups and downs, ups and downs, ups and downs. I mean,

967
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 7: this is a guy that's twenty three, just turned twenty

968
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 7: four a couple of months ago. So that's my bigger

969
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 7: issue is the roster shuffling that we've seen, which has

970
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:33,760
Speaker 7: kind of stunted a lot of the development.

971
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 3: I think we're also seeing year two of Buster Posey

972
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 3: and his evaluation of talent, what he's looked at. And

973
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 3: I've said this to Derek and I always think this

974
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 3: is true. In the NFL, when a guy takes over,

975
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 3: you've got to give him a chance to put his

976
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 3: system in place, unless I mean, there are disasters and

977
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 3: you got to ask a guy after year one.

978
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 4: But we saw it with Shanahan.

979
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 3: He got a six year contract out of a gate

980
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 3: and I thought, Okay, they're really gonna let him build.

981
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 3: And he signed all those free agents and then they

982
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 3: started drafting and they got their quarterback, and they got

983
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 3: a running back, and they got a traded for a

984
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 3: left tackle. But you gotta give a guy chance to

985
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 3: put his system in place to build around it. In baseball,

986
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 3: that system could take much longer to develop. We were

987
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 3: in the far On era. Uh you know, reaping the

988
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 3: benefits of Bobby Evans. Yeah, with so many players that

989
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 3: he drafted's so frequently previous regimes are what lead to

990
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 3: be successive current teams in baseball, and we're just now

991
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 3: getting to see buster put price.

992
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 2: Bryce Elders is a far hand.

993
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. I part of gift.

994
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, So, I.

995
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 3: Mean that's not it is a big thing with with

996
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 3: player development. They've not done well. I think they've not

997
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 3: what how many players in the opening day lineup we're

998
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 3: on the opening day roster. On the offensive side our

999
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 3: home growth.

1000
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 5: Elliott Ramos, Sets Ramos is Bobby Evans, and then Casey

1001
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 5: and Bailey.

1002
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 3: Are are are far han But offensively, you have three players,

1003
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 3: man of your thirteen Yankees are homegrown.

1004
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 2: Just just for fun, just top of my head, I

1005
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 2: can't right now you have Yankee lineup go through that,

1006
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 2: right there, Joe homegrown? Your home grown? Not Bellinger, No,

1007
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 2: not Grisham, I mean not Grisham Chism, not.

1008
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:04,720
Speaker 7: At all, Nope, Nope, No Camalo, nope, McMahon nope, Wells,

1009
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,240
Speaker 7: no Rockies No, So that they're hey a away, Cambre.

1010
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 2: Yankee player development sucks.

1011
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 3: But they're using those pieces to go get others like

1012
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 3: they've been. They've developed enough to have enough studs to compete,

1013
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 3: and they're in the playoffs.

1014
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 2: Every and careful. That's your guy, Brian Sabian out there.

1015
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 2: Hart Cole, not Carrett Cole, Carlos Horddan not homegrown.

1016
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 3: Nope, Yeah, Dodgers too, I mean the Dodgers opening day one. No,

1017
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 3: I mean, they're very true. It's it's Will Smith. And

1018
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:31,720
Speaker 3: I mean is Pat has homegrown?

1019
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, maybe that's it. I think it's those two.

1020
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 4: But and even the road, I think all five of

1021
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 4: their rotation pieces are are purchased.

1022
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 2: Spot and page.

1023
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know what I mean. But they did

1024
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 4: it with the right guys, and they also developed.

1025
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 3: Heaps of talent and used that talent to go trade

1026
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 3: for like Manny Machado for part of a season, to

1027
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 3: get Max Scherzer for part of a season, Like they

1028
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 3: have the ability to trade four pieces. Where when Jan

1029
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 3: Soda became available, the Giants open up the books to

1030
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 3: the Nats and they were like, I don't don't really

1031
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 3: see it.

1032
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 4: I'm good, And they were right.

1033
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 5: The one guy we haven't is the beneficiary all of

1034
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 5: this is a guy who Buster apparently believes in because

1035
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 5: for two years he keeps giving him a chance, as

1036
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 5: Gerar and Karnacion, whose career does not scream breakout prospect.

1037
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 5: I mean he played in the Mexican League. Right, he

1038
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,399
Speaker 5: had a cup of coffee with the Marlins. Right, he's

1039
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 5: a big guy. He's been injury prone a little bit.

1040
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 5: And then there's something Buster and Zach love this guy.

1041
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 3: He likes the bat, maybe off the bench. He's not

1042
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 3: in the lineup today. Dhing is Rafael Den He can

1043
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,360
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1047
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1049
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Speaker 3: Hanging with you until about four o'clock today when we

1050
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Speaker 3: get pregame doing at four h five for the Giants

1051
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 3: and the Yankees on opening Day. Now we've talked about

1052
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 3: the lineup, what will the identity of this team be.

1053
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 3: I don't think it's pitching, but I'm hoping it will be.

1054
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1060
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1061
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1062
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Speaker 3: Giants and the Yankees on Opening Day here opening baseball

1063
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Speaker 3: for all of Major League Baseball, the only game on

1064
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 3: the schedule, then a weird off day tomorrow, and then

1065
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 3: Saturday Sunday against the Yanks before before hitting the road.

1066
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Speaker 4: Friday, Saturdayday. Think today was Thursday or today's Wednesday off.

1067
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Speaker 5: No Sunday, Which is why you can come out to

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1069
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Speaker 3: Two yeah, or if you're not gonna or if you're

1070
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Speaker 3: not getting here until first pitch, or don't plan to

1071
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Speaker 3: you on on Friday, you can come see me cops

1072
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Speaker 3: from ten to noon and pronounce it right, Mila. So

1073
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Speaker 3: I'll be missing the show because I'll be a pleasant hill.

1074
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Speaker 3: I mean, I'll be hanging out.

1075
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Speaker 5: Shout out Chef Chelsea. She's cooking out there day. Chef

1076
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1077
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1078
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1079
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Speaker 2: Is be walking, Chelsea's is cooking up a storm. He's

1080
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Speaker 2: freaking every You want to buy every appliance in the world.

1081
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Speaker 3: You're like, there's like you walked to the back. There's

1082
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Speaker 3: like a bunch of paddiers. I feel like you're at Rome.

1083
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Speaker 3: I mean like it's let's say, credib all these like you're.

1084
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Speaker 2: In clost Friday, me Sunday and and thank us later.

1085
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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you go come buy an All right, So

1086
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 3: we got the Giants open it against the Yankees. Your

1087
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 3: five oh five first pitch, four oh five pre game.

1088
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,280
Speaker 3: You can hear it all right here on the Sports

1089
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Speaker 3: Leader all season long. Uh, what is the greatest strength

1090
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 3: or what do we think the greatest strength will be

1091
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 3: of v San Francisco Giants? Derek, We'll start with you, Like, okay,

1092
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 3: you and I have spent so much time in football

1093
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 3: season talking about identity of the forty nine ers. The

1094
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 3: offense had to be so much better than the defense

1095
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 3: this year and had to carry the load. That had

1096
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 3: to be the identity of the team to find success

1097
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,240
Speaker 3: and and ultimately they went to the to the Division

1098
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 3: A round of the postseason. With the Warriors, the identity

1099
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 3: is always Steph Curry. It's can he carry them? Do

1100
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 3: they have enough A roa helps them win?

1101
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 4: Right?

1102
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 3: When it comes to these Giants, all of their success

1103
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 3: in the Golden generation has been around pitching. It seemingly

1104
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 3: is not going to be the strength of this team.

1105
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,879
Speaker 3: And you're betting on a lot of innings from three

1106
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 3: or four different guys who haven't thrown more than a

1107
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 3: full season in the last two or three years. What

1108
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 3: are your thoughts on what the strength of this team

1109
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 3: will be.

1110
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 8: Well, with football, you kind of have to find out

1111
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 8: the identity of a team when the head coach gets there.

1112
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 2: And we knew what Kyle Shanahan was gonna.

1113
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 8: Do later on where he wants to run the football

1114
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 8: and wants to play certain type of defense. With Tony Vitello,

1115
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 8: we really don't know, but yes, with this offseason, they

1116
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 8: took a step back with their pitching, no doubt about it.

1117
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 2: With the starting rotation and the bullpen. So this will

1118
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 2: be a team.

1119
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 8: That's predicated and you know as far as their success

1120
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 8: on their offense, and what we need this season is

1121
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 8: you need Rafield Devers being that guy from from Boston

1122
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 8: having thirty home runs. You need Willia Damas not having

1123
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 8: a slow start and figuring things out and being that

1124
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 8: guy that got thirty home runs a season ago. You

1125
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 8: need Matt Chapman with with you know, with with with

1126
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 8: with with that, with that glove at third base and

1127
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,919
Speaker 8: being the guy that he usually is and hopefully getting

1128
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 8: too twenty home runs. But you need we Surrise to

1129
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 8: be that guy that gets almost two hundred hits this season.

1130
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 2: So it's gonna be different.

1131
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 8: I have no idea to expect from Tony Vitello and

1132
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 8: his brand of baseball. And I know that Marcus cut

1133
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 8: up with him in San Jose and he said the

1134
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 8: goal this year is we want to play like hell.

1135
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 2: What does that really mean? Though, Like you know he

1136
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 2: talked about the other day or like a week.

1137
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 8: Later with Murphy and Nola Marcus and talk about how

1138
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 8: you know, that's just something you say to get the

1139
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 8: fans riled up.

1140
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 2: But yeah, exactly.

1141
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 4: But it's like when you ask how you're doing. I

1142
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 4: don't really want to know. I'm right, it's just a greeting.

1143
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 4: I'm just saying it.

1144
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 8: But but but there was a style that he had

1145
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 8: with Tennessee. Does that mean more small ball? Does that

1146
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 8: mean more you know, stealing bags? And if you look

1147
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 8: at this lineup, yeah, it looks good offensively, but do

1148
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 8: they have speed? Do they have a lot of guys

1149
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,280
Speaker 8: that could do that? So as far as the pitching,

1150
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 8: I really don't know to expect. It's going to be

1151
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 8: Logan Webb going longer into games, I would assume, and

1152
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 8: then hopefully, you know, hopeing for the best when it

1153
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 8: comes to the bullpen. But as far as the offense,

1154
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 8: they cannot be that same team a year ago that

1155
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 8: went from May to June seventeen straight games with scoring

1156
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 8: five runs or less.

1157
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 4: He cannot be that case. That's brutal because Tom Smith

1158
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 4: hit walking through that door exactly.

1159
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 3: I love him, one of my favorite partial season giants

1160
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 3: generation in an era that that's provided so little in

1161
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 3: terms of success and players to love. I really did

1162
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 3: like Tom Smith, got a chance to talk to him

1163
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 3: in that what used to be the Bunker. I think

1164
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 3: that's okay. I mean it's a crab shack, no joke.

1165
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 3: You'll see I'm not not they sell the crab sandwich.

1166
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: Is that?

1167
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 2: I don't know what might have been an up I saw,

1168
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 2: I saw popscord Maker.

1169
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 3: Okayby Pop, there's there's no denying it could be the

1170
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:18,760
Speaker 3: door mat popcorn.

1171
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 2: Just give me the better crab.

1172
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, bottom blight is I totally lost.

1173
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 1: Oh.

1174
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 4: I talked to to Tom Smith day out.

1175
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 3: He was a test, he was signed, he came in

1176
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 3: and remember he drove in a run, a couple of

1177
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:28,959
Speaker 3: runs that first game, one.

1178
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 2: Of our favorite interviews at twenty twenty four, twenty five, and.

1179
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 4: He got a job. He's in Atlanta when I.

1180
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 2: Got yeah with Yas who had a great spring.

1181
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1182
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 5: So anyway, like a way kme our greatest partial season Giants,

1183
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 5: where we go Uh, Scooter ro obviously comes tomorrow, Cody Ross,

1184
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 5: We're going parcels h Cody, Yeah, party because you said

1185
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 5: Don Smith is a great.

1186
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 4: Parcels Chris Bryant. Now yeah, he's like, yeah, can I

1187
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 4: go kemy Lofton?

1188
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 2: Was he only a partial?

1189
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 4: Yeah? Because two year after Yeah, okay.

1190
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 5: So we're going Lofton, Tom Smith, Scootero and Cody Ross.

1191
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,479
Speaker 4: That's it where Biggers are another mount partial season.

1192
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 2: Joe Carter in ninety eight, he made the last out

1193
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 2: in the wild against against Rod Beck Beck.

1194
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 5: Shoot, yeah, anyway, back to your point about there's no

1195
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 5: Dom Smith walking through that door, I don't.

1196
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 4: Even remember why I said it up this point.

1197
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 2: The whole point of this is, uh, well, identity.

1198
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:20,879
Speaker 3: We were on the identity of the team and Derek

1199
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 3: said they can't go sixteen or seventeen straight game. Yah,

1200
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 3: and Dom Smith was was part of breaking that streak.

1201
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 3: They've got to be better offensively. Like the way I

1202
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,240
Speaker 3: look at it is it has to be RAPHIEO Devers

1203
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 3: carries this lineup. You've got guys like Luisa Rise, who,

1204
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 3: by the way, I like a batting average. I'm okay

1205
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 3: with the Rise leading the league and it hits and

1206
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 3: they'll get it down yere. I'm like, dude, the guy

1207
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 3: wants to play the field, and he's like, I want

1208
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 3: to play second base and I want to get on

1209
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 3: base and set the table. That's where I get excited.

1210
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,399
Speaker 3: I think they've got guys. If Chapman's hitting two, you've

1211
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 3: got a Rise at the top, and you've got Devers

1212
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 3: hitting three. A Domas is your four guy who can

1213
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 3: just slug, and he hit thirty last year, though it

1214
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 3: was a weird thirty.

1215
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 4: I feel pretty good about the top of the lineup.

1216
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 3: I just think it has to be exceptional to give

1217
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 3: the the bullpen and the starting rotation an opportunity for air.

1218
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 3: So the strength of this team, as I see it

1219
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 3: at zero and zero, is the potential for some pop.

1220
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 3: And I understand playing in this ballpark that doesn't really

1221
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 3: play into those conditions, right, but you have guys that

1222
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 3: you feel like are capable of hitting twenty or more homers. Obviously,

1223
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 3: Rafael Devers, Willian Damas, Matt Chapman, Elliott Ramos, Casey Schmidt

1224
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 3: if he gets enough at bats right, like, we could

1225
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 3: go up and down the list. But what I want

1226
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 3: the strength of this team to be is hitting the

1227
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 3: other way, putting the ball in play.

1228
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 4: Seeing what we saw a lot of early on in

1229
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 4: the Cactus League.

1230
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 3: I want us to love Hunter Menz like we love

1231
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 3: Hunter Pence coming over from the Blue Jays.

1232
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 4: That's kind of what I love this.

1233
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: I like it.

1234
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 5: I like it, Yeah, yeah, it is, it's true, and

1235
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 5: it is. Hunter mens is the hitting coach from Toronto.

1236
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 5: If people don't know. And they what they lead the

1237
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 5: league in batting average last year, and they and they

1238
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 5: were ninety.

1239
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 2: Feet away, they were one shoelace away from knocking. How

1240
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:57,240
Speaker 2: they make that catch?

1241
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: To that?

1242
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 2: Who made that catch? Were those two outfielders who collide?

1243
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 4: That wasn't that wasn't cool?

1244
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,240
Speaker 2: Don't know the identity.

1245
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 5: It's a heck of a question, coach, because in a

1246
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 5: way the Giants, yeah giant, Yeah, in a way they

1247
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 5: picked him up. Yeah, it's kind of scary question because

1248
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 5: if you look at it, they don't really have and

1249
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 5: I mean, like we all love the Giants. We love

1250
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 5: being here, we love being at the yard, all that stuff.

1251
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 5: We love Buster, but man oh man, it's kind of

1252
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 5: a scary question. I mean, really, the only acceptable answer

1253
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 5: is offense. That's the only acceptable that they went and

1254
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 5: got an offensive center fielder.

1255
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 2: Harrison Bader that Jung Huley should should be. I mean,

1256
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 2: he hit a.

1257
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 5: Tank last night. I mean he's playing the Sultans, I know,

1258
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 5: but still shut a hop on it shouts some pop

1259
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 5: in a Sultan Sultanic trying to get away with that

1260
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 5: great Yankees, the Yankees of the Mexicano. But anyway, it

1261
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 5: is a little scary because what is their identity? I mean,

1262
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 5: there's no obvious answer. I started thinking when you guys

1263
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 5: were answering, well, what was their identity in twenty ten

1264
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 5: going into that season.

1265
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 2: Well, you know, we didn't truly know that yet. We

1266
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 2: lent to them, Yeah, and.

1267
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 4: Had debuted and they also Sanchez thrown hitter like and

1268
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 4: well Amia looked good in spring.

1269
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, so that there was In twelve, well, Buster had

1270
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 5: an MVP season and they still had those pitchers, but

1271
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 5: Timmy had faded off by then. But they got vocal

1272
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 5: song in power and being clutch. But they know that

1273
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 5: thing you just said right there until the.

1274
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 2: Second and not to the second, and the twenty ten.

1275
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 5: Team was particles, right ashcon right. I mean, there was

1276
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 5: no real reason that twenty ten teams should have caught.

1277
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 5: They called themselves a team of misfait, right, right, right.

1278
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 5: So this is why we get excited, is why we're

1279
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 5: all here. That's something magical could happen, you know what

1280
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 5: I mean. And hopefully Tony V is sort of that

1281
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 5: elixir where every day they go to the clubhouse and

1282
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 5: something fun's going on, or something some pissing vinegar.

1283
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 2: Speech or some sort of squeeze. Buddy bunted Monday night,

1284
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 2: all of them put down a squeeze. But I was

1285
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 2: pretty excited by that.

1286
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 5: Bob Melvin never I kept thinking Bob and Mattie were

1287
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:18,879
Speaker 5: gonna bring the hum baby squeeze, and they never did.

1288
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 2: Bob just laid.

1289
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 6: Dormant the whole day's guys sucked the life out of him.

1290
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 2: Man, I guess stop stop. The Billy was like, never again.

1291
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 2: I know, dude, don't get me started.

1292
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,760
Speaker 5: I still remember reading that Glendicky column in nineteen ninety

1293
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 5: eight or so when Billy was coming through the.

1294
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 2: Joe Carter was back again.

1295
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, dude, Andy and and Billy and Glendick were like,

1296
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 5: the bunch is dead. You're a moron if you butt

1297
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 5: I was. I'm still pissed about that column from nineteen eighty.

1298
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 2: All Right, dude's so good.

1299
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 5: So the identity is gonna have to be a The

1300
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 5: obvious thing is bats, because they have Devers, they have

1301
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 5: a Domis, they have Chapman, they have Bait or they

1302
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:53,879
Speaker 5: have Lee.

1303
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 2: They got Ramos who can hit right.

1304
00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 7: So bats and magic to Yeah, And I feel like

1305
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 7: that's the biggest question when we're asking about the identity

1306
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 7: of the team. We need to figure out what's the

1307
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 7: identity of Tony Vitello. We know what he did at

1308
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 7: the college game, but is that going to translate to

1309
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 7: the big league level? And now Tony Vitello has the

1310
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 7: best lineup that he's ever managed in his entire life.

1311
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 7: He's got more talent than he's ever had before. So

1312
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 7: if you're asking us a question, what's the identity, I

1313
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 7: think we all answer offense.

1314
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 2: But I'm more with Derek.

1315
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 7: I want to see the things in between the lines.

1316
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 7: I want to see more stolen bags, and that's why

1317
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 7: all of um made the roster. I want to see

1318
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,720
Speaker 7: better defense. Defensively in the outfield, they were the worst

1319
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 7: defense according to outs above average.

1320
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 4: You could see it.

1321
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, they were bad, and that's why they bring You

1322
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 7: can actually just watch and we all saw what happened.

1323
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 7: So moving Jung hoo Lee over to right field, bringing

1324
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 7: in a goal glover with Harrison Bader.

1325
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 2: I know there's concerns about luisl Rise defensively. He's been

1326
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:50,479
Speaker 2: working with Ron.

1327
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 7: Washington, but that's why you have Christian Kosts on the

1328
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 7: roster as a late game defensive replacement.

1329
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 2: If they just clean up the defense, that could be

1330
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 2: worth five to six games.

1331
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 7: Ramos is still in left though, Yeah, which that's why

1332
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 7: you have all of us as a lake game place.

1333
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 2: Romos is a tough watch and left this is I

1334
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 2: guess my fear.

1335
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 3: And this one Murph said, is your when I mean

1336
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 3: gonna quote Billy b we can go back to. Hope

1337
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 3: is not a strategy and hoping for magic is not

1338
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 3: a strategy.

1339
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:13,959
Speaker 4: I don't.

1340
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 3: I don't totally And we'll talk more about bustering how

1341
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 3: we evaluate him a year in about to start year

1342
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 3: two in a little bit. But like, I don't totally

1343
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 3: love the approach to the offseason with the rotation. I

1344
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 3: think I like the way they approached the deadline last year.

1345
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 3: I thought that was the right thing to do.

1346
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 2: Yes, I believe I thought the deadline they've had in years.

1347
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 4: I thought they did the right things that it's exactly

1348
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 4: what I would have wanted to do.

1349
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 3: I thought they got pieces back and I was happy

1350
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 3: for with the return for expiring expiring contracts and pieces

1351
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 3: that weren't going to be used there. I would have

1352
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:41,320
Speaker 3: liked to have Tyler Rodgers back, but look when he

1353
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 3: got paid to go to Toronto, like they weren't gonna

1354
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 3: they weren't gonna pay that.

1355
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 4: My fear though, is like they could do all those

1356
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 4: things and we don't even know if they have a closer.

1357
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 4: Like it's hoping Ryan Walker can reclaim what he had

1358
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 4: a couple of years age.

1359
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 2: Back to the elephant there, back to the elephant.

1360
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 4: They're not bust.

1361
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 5: Greg Johnson told him, you get the twelfth payroll, you

1362
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 5: get the twelfth rank payroll, kid, go do it.

1363
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:02,720
Speaker 2: Go knock him dead. I mean he didn't. Tyler Rodgers would.

1364
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 3: Have been a great at and then more than he

1365
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 3: said he said, he said a chickil You guys want

1366
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 3: to throw something up on the air.

1367
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 4: The problem in the city, Well there is one year.

1368
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 4: There's one year the camp. Have you guys hit it? Yeah,

1369
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 4: not da.

1370
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 2: I'm holding for the hooker from the giants. I have

1371
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 2: a teenager, and teenagers are addicted to Chick fil A.

1372
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 2: Let me tell you they're addicted. It's Deli chicken, it's

1373
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 2: fried chicken.

1374
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 3: I'm finding out new things about the finding new things

1375
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:34,760
Speaker 3: about teenagers to at the wet towel, about the boom boxes,

1376
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 3: boom boxes and Chick fil.

1377
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 2: And danced it like Dave's what's Dave's wings, Dave's hot chicken.

1378
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 2: That's Nashville hot chicken.

1379
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:44,399
Speaker 4: Yeah that's good.

1380
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 2: That's good. Yeah, that's really good.

1381
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: No, that's good.

1382
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 7: I like it.

1383
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm not high school.

1384
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 2: I got the same taste books as high school.

1385
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 3: I mean, if you're right, like you watch other teams

1386
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 3: go out and spend it. Margats, you said the Yankees

1387
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 3: didn't spend, but they have spent and they did well.

1388
00:53:58,880 --> 00:53:59,959
Speaker 2: They spent to bring back Belly.

1389
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 7: Yes there was thoughts of and they you know, yeah,

1390
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 7: they paid for and like talking about the bullpen and

1391
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 7: not bringing in arms.

1392
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 2: The Dodgers won another World Series. They went out and

1393
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 2: paid Kyle Tucker and then paid Edwin.

1394
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 4: D Is on top of him now and none of

1395
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 4: that was deferred by the way.

1396
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:13,280
Speaker 2: I don't know what we're gonna do with the Dodgers.

1397
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 4: I just kind of like, ignore it until it flares up.

1398
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: For me.

1399
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 5: The only chance you have with the Dodgers trying to

1400
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 5: pat him in a five game series and and freaking

1401
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 5: ninety foot him to death, you know what I mean,

1402
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:26,320
Speaker 5: that's your only hope or or hope.

1403
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 4: They play somebody before you, you know what I mean?

1404
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 5: Had him, The Blue Jays had him, the Phillies. Actually,

1405
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 5: who is that poor? That poor rookie pitcher. Yeah so,

1406
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 5: I mean it can happen. It's baseball. But the Dodgers

1407
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 5: are a wagon, bro, They are a freaking wagon. The

1408
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,720
Speaker 5: only thing we can hope is just that Freddy gets older.

1409
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 5: Bookie gets older.

1410
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, father time's undefeated.

1411
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 1: Man.

1412
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 2: By the way, they had their bad year last year.

1413
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:54,240
Speaker 2: That's rights only finished twelve games in the regular season.

1414
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:55,839
Speaker 2: Like everybody thinks they want one hundred and eighty.

1415
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 5: Wok you believed Giants only finished twelve behind him last year.

1416
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 4: Booki's getting older. They moved him and he's playing gold

1417
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 4: glove short stock. How does that? Talking about.

1418
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 5: The Red Sox should have been on lifetime probation for trade.

1419
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 5: So we had Danny Everman on last week from Boston

1420
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 5: as a Warriors hit. We got hey, Danny, what's up

1421
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 5: in your hometown? He goes, yeah, I'm chilling with my mom,

1422
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 5: and Daddy goes, I got my dog, Mookie. I got

1423
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 5: my dog on the lap.

1424
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 2: What's his name? He was Mooky Ode from Boston. He

1425
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 2: named your dog Mookie. He's a freaking Dodger. And then

1426
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,280
Speaker 2: another dog came barking in and that dog was named Evers.

1427
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 4: Ye, he's like my other dog.

1428
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, here's raft that opens up the doors. Why isn't

1429
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 5: Bryce Eldridge Roman Anthony?

1430
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 3: Then all right, maybe he's Richie Sexon. I would I

1431
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 3: would accept that. I'll take forty five homers into two

1432
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:44,800
Speaker 3: forty average.

1433
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 2: We haven't even talked much about Bryce.

1434
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 4: We're gonna get into that.

1435
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 3: Okay, we will talk more about Bryce Aldred if we

1436
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 3: liked the decision and he didn't start this season on

1437
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 3: the roster.

1438
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 4: But something so we've done.

1439
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,240
Speaker 2: I think we decided they have no identity.

1440
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, we just ident Happy opening day, everybody.

1441
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 2: I'm excited. Nothing like that by Tello effect.

1442
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 4: So is this our in total we've done?

1443
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 3: We did a Giants roundtable last year, yep, We've done

1444
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 3: one Niner roundtable. Yes, so we did one Warriors round

1445
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,720
Speaker 3: tab and now we're doing our fourth total roundtable.

1446
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 4: Something that's become.

1447
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 2: Kind of round table out.

1448
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, it seems like it's coming a little

1449
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 3: too frequently. You're working your regular rout those show shows.

1450
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:21,280
Speaker 4: Great, Are we gonna.

1451
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 2: Get a dirty work Sharks roundtable?

1452
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 4: Sometimes? I saw you saw they lost again?

1453
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 2: Well, next October.

1454
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 4: My favorite team, the Preads.

1455
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 3: So what's happened in the last two roundtables is h

1456
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 3: he's a cute story. I think there's I think there's

1457
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 3: a feeling that there's been some back and forth between

1458
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 3: Murph and JDH an opposite let's go.

1459
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 4: I think there's a bit of a spot. So when

1460
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 4: we come we gotta get into it.

1461
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 3: When we come on back, we got The Thriller third

1462
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 3: and King Murphy Special HIBR twenty twenty sixth.

1463
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 5: I don't know today, here's it. Today's Wednesday? All right, Yeah,

1464
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 5: that's my that's all because he's a days.

1465
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 2: It's just like nineteen ninety eight these does that comes

1466
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 2: game a Wednesday.

1467
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 4: We roll on from fifty eight Social.

1468
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 3: When we come on back, Murph against j D The

1469
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 3: Thriller at thirty K, we'll get into the Giants topics

1470
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 3: and then S four will decide who the winner of

1471
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 3: that topic was.

1472
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 4: Move on your fifty eight Social rolls.

1473
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 2: Off twenty JD Down Giant Draft

1474
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 4: Table is next on these Sports Leader