1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the ext Earning postgame show with Bill Laski. 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: I'm delighted to bring my guest on. Of course, he 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,399 Speaker 1: is the voice of the Sacramento Rivercats on radio as 4 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: well as television. Let's bring in Zach Berry. Rudy, Zach, 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: how are you today? 6 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 2: I'm great, Bill. How you doing, my friend? 7 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: I'm doing good myself. And the seasons ready to start. 8 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: Of course, the exhibition game is this Sunday, and you 9 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:26,319 Speaker 1: are in Arizona, just leaving Arizona as you just got 10 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: done doing the Spring Breakout game. Tell me a little 11 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: bit about that. 12 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a lot of fun. 13 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 3: I got to work with Joe Ritzo, who's one of 14 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,639 Speaker 3: my good friends, and we've been, you know, colleagues forever now, 15 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 3: and we started to round the same time in the Calleague, 16 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 3: So it was really cool to work with Joe and 17 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 3: the crew at a NBC Bay Area. The game sadly 18 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 3: was kind of a dot. I think it was a 19 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 3: ten to one final in cay for the red So 20 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 3: there wasn't much going on with the Giants prospects offensively, 21 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 3: but I'll tell you the Reds have some arms and 22 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 3: then they were pretty good last night, but still a 23 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 3: lot of excitement around these young giants prospects and the 24 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 3: death that they have now in the system, especially at 25 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 3: the lower levels, is pretty stunning. 26 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: Well, one of the biggest things Zach the players had 27 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: to deal with was the heat. It's very hot in 28 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: Arizona right now, over one hundred degrees and these guys 29 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: were signing autographs an hour before the game started, something 30 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,559 Speaker 1: they wanted to do for fans. But boy, it takes 31 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: it out of you, and you could see it a 32 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: little bit out of the players as well as the broadcasters. 33 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 1: You were pretty warm up in that booth. 34 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just telling you. 35 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 3: Joe and I walked over from the parking structure there 36 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 3: at Scottsdale Stadium, and if anyone's been there, you know, 37 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 3: it's right next door to the stadium, and it was 38 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 3: it was a sweatfest. I mean it was like the 39 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 3: heat was rising up from the asphalt as we were 40 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 3: walking over the wallpark. So I can only imagine for 41 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 3: the players out there in full uniform, you know, to 42 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 3: be engaging and to be signing, it. 43 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 2: Does take it out of you. Especially in the seiling 44 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 2: of Phoenix. 45 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: That voice you hear in the extra any post game show. 46 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: My good friend Zach bay Rudy, you got to see 47 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: a couple of young players, and I wanted to hear 48 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: you impression about Lewis Hernandez, the shortstop who's seventeen years old. 49 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: First time a player has ever been this young playing 50 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: in this prestigious game. What'd you think of him overall? 51 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 3: Man, Well, that's the first thing that jumps out off 52 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 3: the page at you. I mean, seventeen years old, and 53 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 3: I think he's the youngest player on any roster anywhere 54 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 3: right now. So that was Zach Managin was talking with 55 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 3: us before the game, and we're just chopping that up 56 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 3: with him about how young he was. 57 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: And you go back and you look at what he 58 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 2: did as a fifteen year old. 59 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 3: He played in the in the Venezuelan Major League as 60 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,959 Speaker 3: a fifteen year old, and he did something ridiculous, and 61 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 3: you know, he hit well over three hundred. But if 62 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 3: you even break it down further against guys who had 63 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 3: reached the major league level at a Triple A level, 64 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 3: he hit like three twenty four against those guys a 65 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 3: fifteen year old, So like against really competition, he a 66 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:53,119 Speaker 3: really stiff competition, he excelled and the bats. 67 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 2: Of ball skills. 68 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 3: They were real and I think if Joe and I 69 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 3: were talking about this last night, it kind of sympathies 70 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 3: what the Giants. 71 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 2: Are looking for. A guy that can get up there, has. 72 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 3: An awareness of what the strike zone is and can 73 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 3: make contact on a consistent basis, and for him to 74 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 3: be doing that as a seventeen year old is pretty special. 75 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: Zach. They were saying that he was going to bypass 76 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: the Dominican Republic kind of rookie ball. They brought him 77 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: to United States to get him acclimated here and possibly, 78 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: you know, start him in Scottsdale at Papa Go, but 79 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: you never know, he might be in lower a sooner 80 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: than you think. 81 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 2: I think that is probably going to be the case. 82 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 3: You know, and you go, like what I was just 83 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 3: telling you, You go off that sample size from when 84 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 3: he was playing with older guys in Venezuela. 85 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 2: He's shown that he can do. 86 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 3: It, and in this day and age where they're really 87 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 3: not taking their time with moving guys up, I think, 88 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 3: I mean, I think a level like a San Jose 89 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 3: would be a really good place to put him in, 90 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 3: a really good challenge for him at this point in 91 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 3: his career. 92 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: Another player that was in Big league Campo Davidson. What 93 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: an athlete he is as an outfielder as well as 94 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: a hitter. Have you seen him compete as that the 95 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: first time you've been watching him? 96 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 3: First time, first time I've seen him, first time I've 97 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 3: seen him. So for a lot of these guys who 98 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 3: played in the in the prospect game last night, it's 99 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 3: the first time I'm seeing and there are a couple exceptions, 100 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 3: Drew Kavanaugh being one of them, who's a catcher that's 101 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 3: actually pretty well on the radar in the system. But 102 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 3: first time for me seeing a lot of these guys, 103 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 3: So I was I was leaning on Joe as well 104 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 3: as a lot of the scouting reports from people who 105 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 3: have who have chronicled their journey along the way. 106 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: One of the cool things is you're seeing a lot 107 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: of the youth. There was a lot of young players 108 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: in uniform for the Giants, and then you got to 109 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: see some of the coaches. Travis c Chicaw or Joe Panic, 110 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: a couple of real key players that were good coaching. 111 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: Now in the coaching rank, you know, what are you 112 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: thinking about these guys? Are they looking at these guys 113 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: that develop them or do you think they're just going 114 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 1: to put him in different situations a ball high, a 115 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: double A and then try to compete at this age. 116 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 3: No, absolutely, I think they're they're developing them. I mean, 117 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 3: are you talking about the coaches Bill, Yeah, the coaches 118 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 3: with the Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, he's got 119 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 3: a guy like Edwin Viegas who won the call League 120 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 3: title last year with San Jose and he's going back 121 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 3: to San Jose. And again, I was talking with Joe, 122 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 3: who does you know a lot of the San Jose 123 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 3: Giants broadcasts, and he said that Edwin Viegas has done 124 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 3: just a remarkable job there with the San Jose Giants, 125 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 3: and that the organization really loves him. And he's a 126 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 3: guy who came up with the Giants. And I think 127 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 3: the Giants have done a great job keeping their guys around. 128 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 3: I mean, you look at that who's around. Kyle Haynes 129 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 3: is the farm director and he came up as a 130 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 3: as a member of the Giants organization. 131 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 2: You know. F P. 132 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 3: Santangelo the other day said something on the radio when 133 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 3: I was hanging out in the booth. He talked about 134 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 3: how it's kind of like a living museum, when you're 135 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 3: when you're walking around Scottsdale Stadium, because you see guys 136 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 3: who have you know, played Giants legends, and you also 137 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 3: see guys who really never made it as far as 138 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 3: the Buster posies of the world, but they're still involved 139 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 3: in the organization. And I think the Giants do such 140 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 3: a great job of keeping their people in house and 141 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 3: it creates a great vibe and a great culture. 142 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: Well, Zach Lech, jump into the Sacramento river Cats for 143 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: a little bit. Of course, you started in twenty twenty 144 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 1: three as the play by play announcer. Tell me a 145 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: little bit about what you've seen in the past few 146 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: years and what's upcoming for the coming season. 147 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 3: Oh man, Well, it's been just change after change, you know, 148 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 3: as far as philosophy and personnel, at least at the 149 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 3: top of the organization. I mean, when I started, you know, 150 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 3: it was it was far Han and Kapler, and then 151 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 3: you go into the Bowmail Buster era and now you're 152 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 3: in the Buster of Vice Ello era. So you know, 153 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 3: there have been the changes up at the top. But 154 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 3: what I've what I've really noticed is an infusion of 155 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 3: great young talent in the pharm system and a lot 156 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 3: of it is credit to Farhan. I mean, look, he 157 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 3: took over a farm system that was depleted. He infused 158 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 3: a lot of great talent there that got to the 159 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 3: higher levels of the minor leagues. And for a while 160 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 3: the talent was pretty top heavy, like we had a 161 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 3: lot of the guys the Matoses and Luciano's that that 162 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 3: kind of player in Sacramento. But at the lower levels 163 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 3: they didn't have much. But I think they've done a 164 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 3: great job now getting a lot of talent into the 165 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 3: lower levels of the minor leagues, and so you have 166 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 3: a really deep system. And I also think that just 167 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 3: Buster is now putting his stamp on the organization culturally. 168 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 3: I think it was a way different vibe when Barhan 169 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,679 Speaker 3: was running things. And that's not to say it was wrong, 170 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 3: but you know, Buster has a way of doing things. 171 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 3: It's I think a little bit different, and you can 172 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 3: feel it trickle down to the minor leagues and I 173 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 3: think it's it's going to bode well for years to 174 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 3: come for the Giants. 175 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: I really do well, Zach. 176 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: They kept the same coaching staff in Triple at the 177 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: only level that they kept all the coaches and of 178 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: course Date Brundi's coming back for his tenth year as 179 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: manager of the Rivercats. What makes him so special with 180 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: these players. 181 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 3: There's no better guy to manage the Triple A ball 182 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 3: club than Brundy, and he could, I mean, he could 183 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 3: do it at the major league level too. I'm not 184 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 3: selling him short, but you know, in Triple A, as 185 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 3: you know, Bill, it can oftentimes be a revolving door. 186 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 3: You never know what the roster is going to look like, 187 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 3: and it changes, you know, vastly sometimes day to day. 188 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 3: So I think Brundy keeps everybody on an even key. 189 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 3: And he's just such a great baseball mind, and he's 190 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 3: done it for so long now that I think he 191 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 3: just knows how to make players feel comfortable in any situation. 192 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 2: I mean his. 193 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 3: Office, you know, unless the doors closed, the door is 194 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 3: always opened, and you can go and talk to him 195 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 3: about anything. He's got great stories, especially if guys he's 196 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 3: called up along the way, or guys he's told you 197 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 3: know that are going up to the major leagues, guys 198 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 3: like Creddie Freeman and on down the line. 199 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 2: So you know, he's done. 200 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 3: It for a long long time, and I just think 201 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 3: the players love playing for him, and he makes everybody 202 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 3: just feel comfortable and brings out the best in everybody. 203 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: Zach bay Rudy, the voice of the Sacramento Rivercats, joining 204 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: me for a few more minutes on the Externing postgame show. 205 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: Of course, when the big league start cutting players, sending 206 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: players down. Of course, this week, Bryce Eldritch, Tyler Fitzgerald, 207 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: Grant McCrae, Will Bednar, some big names that are going 208 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: to be on this river Cat roster. It's a disappointing 209 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: time for these players. But at the same time, development, 210 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: as we talked about, this is going to be key 211 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: for all these players. 212 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 2: It is. 213 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 3: And I think that, you know, in the case of 214 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,479 Speaker 3: the player, I think the players have to be realistic 215 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 3: about what's going on. 216 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 2: You know. 217 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 3: I think if you ask Tyler Fitzgerald, you know, what 218 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 3: might be best for him at this time. Maybe it 219 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 3: is to go to Sacramento to play every day, to 220 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 3: get consistent at bats, you know, to find that good 221 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 3: swing again that he lost along the way last year. 222 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 2: So I think, you know, guys like like FITZI would 223 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:24,719 Speaker 2: would tell you that, you know, in. 224 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,319 Speaker 3: A case of a Bryce Eldridge, you're talking about a 225 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 3: kid who's is he finally turned twenty one. Is he 226 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 3: twenty one years old now, I think. But you know, 227 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 3: they called him up last year because they had a 228 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 3: need for a bat. They were still hanging around, you know, 229 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 3: hopeful for a postseason birth, and they had Bryce, who 230 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 3: was a candidate always to run into one, you know, 231 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 3: every time he's in the box. 232 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 2: So they gave a little cup of coffee. 233 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 3: But I think everybody around here knew that Bryce probably 234 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 3: still needed some more refining the Triple A and no surprise. 235 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 2: To me that they sent him back. 236 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 3: And if I'm Bryce, I'm not looking at it as 237 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 3: a demotion. I'm looking at it as an opportunity again 238 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 3: to get assistant at that's to dominate a very hit 239 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 3: or friendly league, like he could have a lot of 240 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 3: fun in the PCO and at the end of the day, 241 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 3: that's only going to help his confidence as he continues 242 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 3: to grow. 243 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: Zacha. Major league Baseball is going to incorporate to abs. 244 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: You see it on minor leagues, you see it all 245 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: the time in TRIPLEA. They've been having a lot of 246 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 1: fun with it in spring training, but now it's going 247 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 1: to be played out during the season. What is the 248 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: pluses and the minuses of the abs. 249 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 3: Well, I don't think there are a lot of minuses, 250 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 3: you know. I think there are only pluses, I think, 251 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 3: And I talked about this on the air last night 252 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 3: with Joe. You know, I'm a fan of the human 253 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 3: element in baseball. I'm now consider myself an old school 254 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 3: guy and in my forties, and I do love the 255 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 3: human element, the old school way of doing things. But 256 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 3: at the same time, you know, I think that it 257 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 3: gets tiresome seeing hitters and umpires and pitchers bicker at 258 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 3: each other, you know. And I think you have with 259 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 3: the challenge system, you have a way to keep everybody honest. 260 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 3: I mean, nobody know. I've seen a lot of bad 261 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 3: challenges along the way, and I've seen a lot of 262 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 3: a lot of oft the times when the umpire has 263 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 3: looked really sharp along the way, Like you know, it 264 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 3: illustrates for fans, I think just how good these umpires 265 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 3: are when you see how close these pitches are. But 266 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 3: it keeps it keeps everybody honest, and I think it's 267 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 3: good for fans and creates a little more transparency, especially 268 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 3: in moments where you know you're watching a game and 269 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 3: it can hinge on a ball or a strike here 270 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 3: and there, and and and I think it's good for 271 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 3: fans and overall good good for the game. 272 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 2: It's gonna be great for the game moving forward. 273 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: Well, Zach, you know you're listening to the games on radio, 274 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: watching a few of the games on television, it seems 275 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: like some of the players want to use it immediately 276 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: and to be you know, smart about it. Wouldn't you 277 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: always want one in your back pocket for the ninth inning? 278 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, And this is another element of the challenge system 279 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,839 Speaker 3: that's going to be fun for fans to follow too. 280 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 3: I mean there's strategy involved, Like you don't want to 281 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 3: deploy a challenge on the third pitch of the game 282 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 3: in a one to one count. I mean, you're you're 283 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 3: for moments of great consequence, I think to use these. 284 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 3: And you know, it's still again being refined by organizations 285 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 3: how they want to approach it. I know with the 286 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 3: river Cats, Dave Brundage does not want pitchers to ever 287 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 3: deploy a challenge because they're too emotionally involved in the outcome. 288 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 3: I mean, the catcher who always the creates the challenge. 289 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 3: If you're talking about you know, you're out there on defense. 290 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 3: So that's kind of one of the ways that Dave 291 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 3: Brundage has approached, and I know other teams I think 292 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 3: have followed suit with that. 293 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 2: But yeah, you want to be. 294 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 3: You want to be strategic about how you use those 295 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 3: challenges because you know you're probably going to need one 296 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 3: in the ninth inning and you want to have one. 297 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,199 Speaker 3: And last night I think the Reds tried to use 298 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 3: one and didn't have one in their back pocket to 299 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 3: your point, So yeah, you want to be savvy about it. 300 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: Well, Zach, as we finish up here, Sacramento Rivercats, another 301 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: tough year, another top of year. Travel, I still like 302 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: where you're playing so many games and a period of time. 303 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: You know, what is the biggest problem in Triple A? 304 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: Is travel? Is it? Competition? Is it? Is it having 305 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: your roster move so much from call ups and and 306 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: what is it's so difficult while the Rivercats can't win 307 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 1: another championship. 308 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 3: You know, it's funny because the last couple of years 309 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 3: they've been really good, you know, over five hundred and 310 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 3: I think two years ago it was a situation where Sugarland, 311 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 3: the Astros affiliate, won both halves. 312 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm at the. 313 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 3: Airport by the way, and there's the carts going by 314 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 3: that's I'm not on the road. 315 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 2: But Sugarland won both halves two years ago, and the format. 316 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 3: Was that if whoever won the first half went on 317 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 3: to win the second half, they would take the team 318 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 3: into the playoffs that had the next best record in 319 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 3: the second half. I think they should go the next 320 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 3: best team with the overall the best overall record, which 321 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 3: would have been the River Cats. I mean, it kind 322 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 3: of takes into account the first half of the year 323 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 3: and we were ten games over five hundred. But you know, 324 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 3: in that in that situation, it's kind of a format 325 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 3: thing where you know, we got left out. But you know, 326 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 3: I think I think they've still had pretty great years recently, 327 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 3: and you know, there's just been more talented teams in 328 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 3: the Coast League. You know, the Astros had just an 329 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 3: amazing farm system. The Dodgers are never a picnic to 330 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 3: go play. I mean, they have such depth in their 331 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 3: system that year after year they're good. That's not to 332 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 3: say Sacramento hasn't been competitive and groomed prospects of their own, 333 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 3: but it's a tough league, man, and it is a grind, 334 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 3: especially if you're a pitcher. So it's tough to get acclimated. 335 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 3: You hope you can kind of hit it right with 336 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 3: everybody on your roster having some synergy too. But I'm 337 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 3: excited for what this year has to hold, and especially 338 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 3: maybe a year or two down the road where you 339 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 3: have a lot of those San Jose guys who want 340 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 3: a title last year move up and see what they 341 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 3: could do in fripple life. 342 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: No doubt about it. You've got to get more fans 343 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: to come over to Sutter Health feel it's a great ballpark. 344 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: And of course I appreciate your time today traveling back 345 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: to Sacramento and another good year ahead of a Zach 346 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: and We'll be in touch. 347 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 2: Amen, Bill, thanks for having me my friend. 348 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: That was Zach Bay Rudy the Extra and new postgame 349 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: show more coming up right here on K and BR 350 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: The Sports Leader