WEBVTT - Hour 2 is a deep dive into 49ers training camp as the squad suffers early injuries to WR and Defensive Line 0:00:02.080 --> 0:00:06.200 Live from CAL Football Media Day at Memorial Stadium in Berkeley. 0:00:06.559 --> 0:00:14.680 This is Papa in Silver on the Sports Leaders. 0:00:15.600 --> 0:00:19.079 It is Tuesday, August fourth. We are here at California 0:00:19.120 --> 0:00:22.439 Memorial Stadium for Cal Football Media Day. One month from 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:24.800 now in a day, it's going to be their opening 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:28.479 kickoff against UCLA. And then a few days later we 0:00:28.560 --> 0:00:32.159 got opening kickoff down in the Southern Hemisphere on Netflix 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:35.000 of all places. By the way, it'll be Niners Rams 0:00:35.040 --> 0:00:38.440 in Australia. Quite a bang to start off the season. 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:43.480 Forty nine ers are off today after practice number six yesterday, 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:46.120 and we had some more injuries that we noted to 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:48.479 the wide receiver room. Mike Evans has a quad he 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:52.000 did not practice. Dejon Shribbling continues to take it easy 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:54.760 with that hamstring, and of course the big news over 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:57.600 the weekend is that it became official after trending in 0:00:57.640 --> 0:01:00.760 that direction. Ricky Piersoll now done for the season. So 0:01:01.120 --> 0:01:04.520 with Deebo Samuel back, we're in number nineteen. All the 0:01:04.520 --> 0:01:07.039 more meaning this time to that reunion, Yeah, all. 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:09.720 The more meaning. And we asked Derek Branch about it 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:12.120 is Debo in the right position to be able to 0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:15.360 be you know, the most successful and sometimes you just 0:01:15.720 --> 0:01:17.319 have to throw that by the wayside. I mean, they 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:20.560 just need them. They needed the body, They needed somebody 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:23.680 that knows the system and can play the position. And 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:26.240 so I mean we talked about the wide receiver room 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:30.000 maybe being right up there in terms of talent going 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:32.800 into training camp, if players were going to be healthy 0:01:32.840 --> 0:01:35.800 and the best version of themselves. I mean, have we 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:39.560 reached have we reached shambles yet? I know we touched 0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:42.200 it and then maybe got away from it when they 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:44.280 added Debo, But that's still when they at least had 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:46.520 Mike Evans and Stribbling healthy. And it doesn't sound like 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:51.360 either of these injuries are significant ones at this point. 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:54.000 But and the forty nine ers are definitely gonna be 0:01:54.000 --> 0:01:56.919 careful considering that the history up and down the roster. 0:01:57.760 --> 0:02:01.840 But man, it's just the one saying that everybody's hoping 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:05.840 is not the number one story has been the number 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:09.280 one story, aside from the Kyle Shanahan accident there at 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:13.400 the beginning of camp, it's been the injuries. Again. 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:16.600 Well you can feel it too in the Bay Area 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:19.640 when we're doing all these shows. People are rightfully really 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:23.919 frustrated with the Giant season. People rightfully really disappointed by 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:27.600 the Warriors offseason and lack of activity there. Everyone's just 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:29.960 waiting for the forty nine ers. We're all excited for 0:02:30.000 --> 0:02:32.760 football to come back. We got to experience it being 0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:35.240 a training camp and it's like, Hey, I'd actually rather 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:37.359 have August be a pretty dead month rather than having 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:39.600 these headlines pop up. I'm not gonna go as far 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:42.840 as shambles yet though it's August. I'm feeling that fall 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:46.679 optimism before we really get into it. And because these injuries, 0:02:46.720 --> 0:02:50.480 particularly to Evans and Stribbling, don't seem to be anything 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:54.600 consequential of significant cause and having them at risk for 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:57.240 a week one or something, and for that reason, I'm 0:02:57.280 --> 0:02:59.359 not gonna go there yet, but it is giving you 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:01.400 a little bit of heak into that window right there. 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:04.840 It's cracked open as to, oh, wait a minute, if 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:07.800 Christian Kirk's out, Mike Evans could be out, Dajon Stribbling 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:10.080 could be out. Hey, Deebo, any chance you could uh 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:11.919 rewind the clock back to twenty twenty one. 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:13.880 Yeah, we're gonna need you to be the number one 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:19.799 wide receiver and Christian McCaffrey's backup because Kaylon Black was 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:23.280 was banged up in addition to Jordan James and uh 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:26.880 return kickoffs. So basically it's gonna be Deebo and McCaffrey 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:29.919 as the wide receiver one and two and RB one 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:32.840 and two just constantly interchanging roles and still trying to 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:35.200 get George Kittle back and healthy into the mix. So 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:38.080 can you, you know, can you debo? We know, we 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:40.360 know you're in really good shape. Can you can you 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:43.360 line up at tight end? Kidding? But I mean at 0:03:43.400 --> 0:03:45.840 this point it doesn't feel that that far off. So 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:49.680 and you just look and it's it's all over the field, 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:51.680 by the way, it's not just the wide receiver room 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:54.840 in terms of of these injuries. It's you know, big 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:58.240 big focus of training camp coming in is keeping Christian 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:02.040 McCaffrey fresh and having the options to keep Christian McCaffrey fresh. 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:04.760 And now you've got RB two and RB three both 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:08.400 a little bit a little bit banged up. You look 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:10.840 at you know, not having Kiddle obviously in the in 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:14.480 the tight end room. I mean, Branch said, what seventeen 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:18.680 defensive linemen on the ninety man roster and eight or healthy? Yep. 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:23.520 At the end of the most recent practice it just 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:26.320 I mean, it's everywhere and in a lot of ways 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:29.120 the areas where the forty nine ers projected themselves to 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:32.560 be the strongest, which is which is unfortunate. 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:34.560 Now, if I am going to point to an area 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:37.920 where people should be feeling more optimistic, it is August fourth. 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:38.920 It's August fourth too. 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:41.400 And it's also that a lot of the younger defensive 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:43.440 players who we need to see a little bit more 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:46.799 from in terms of stepping up their game good returns 0:04:46.839 --> 0:04:49.080 so far. And yes, to your point, it's August fourth. 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:52.239 There's a ways to go. But JayR Brown, Diamere Lenoor, 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:56.360 Ornardo Green Siegel have all had their moments and everyone 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:59.080 seems to really feed off the energy that Raheem Morris 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:00.720 is bringing in the building as the new DC. 0:05:01.560 --> 0:05:04.800 Yeah, for sure, and they will get their opportunities. And no, 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:07.080 I would say in August fourth in terms of let's 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:09.440 see how many of these guys are able to come 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:13.279 back over the course of the next five weeks. In essence, 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:16.160 there's still time. You don't need to be completely fretting 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:19.800 about it. But I think everybody's got the PTSD from 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:23.599 the year's past in terms of the injuries and just 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:25.840 the impact that they've had. I mean, the thought coming 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:28.200 into this year, again not to belabor it, Greg, was 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:30.680 that the forty nine ers, like all that they had 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:33.240 to deal with last year, well, it's got to be 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:35.479 a better situation. And I think, I mean, to this 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:39.160 point it probably still is a better situation because you 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:43.400 haven't had the major ones other than the Ricky Piersoll 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:47.880 injury to this point. But it just feels like, at 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:49.560 what point are the forty nine ers going to have 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:51.800 a little bit more injury luck, be a little bit 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:55.000 on their side and you know, not have to have 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:57.839 it be something. Look, all teams, all teams in some 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:02.000 form of VASH have to overcome it, and all teams 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:03.920 deal with it. And it's not just a forty nine 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:06.920 or specific thing, but in the Bay, I mean, it 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:10.760 is just compounded by the fact that a year in, 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:13.479 year out, it just seems to be the number one 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:18.600 issue right with this team is what could have been 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:22.160 had so and so remained healthy. Well, there's two parts 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:22.839 of it. Also. 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:26.400 One is that we see that when injury luck is 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:29.320 closer to the forty nine ers side than not, they 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:33.120 generally have a really successful season. Right the two years 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:36.400 that it was better than average, shall we say, and 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:38.240 maybe you have a better way of were the two 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:40.040 super Bowl years? Those are the two years they went 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:42.200 to the Super Bowl when they were in the on 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:44.760 the high end of the spectrum in terms of fewer 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:48.279 injuries or fewer season ending injuries, fewer injuries to keep players. 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:51.160 The two years that stand out in the entire Shanahan 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:53.719 era were nineteen and twenty three. That's not even including 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:55.919 all the late runs in a road playoff wins that 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:58.919 got them to NFC championships. Then the other part of 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:01.920 that is the they also haven't been able to capture 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:04.120 that Lombardi Trophy. And I know we went through the 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:07.320 comparison of teams in this era, right it's really I'd 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:10.120 say the forty nine ers, Buffalo and Baltimore as the 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:14.640 teams that are tortured by being continuously competitive, feeling like 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:16.920 they've got a lot of stars, not able to get 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:19.440 past the Kansas City Chiefs in most cases as the 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:22.120 team that brings them down. And you can look at 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:25.239 the Eagles and the Rams as others. But they also got. 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:28.680 Their one that they did and that's the part that 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:31.680 if the Niners had gotten there one you'd take a 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:34.680 deep breath, I think, and say, all right, as at 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:38.480 least all of what has happened, there was some kind of, 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:42.280 you know, the ultimate end game at the forefront of it, 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:46.280 but they haven't been, which only compounds the pressure year in, 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:49.320 year out that comes into wanting to have this be 0:07:49.440 --> 0:07:52.679 the year where we're not looking up in the middle 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:56.320 of January or the early to middle part of February 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:58.480 and saying what could have been. And that's where the 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:00.640 draft picks part comes back in to it, too, right, 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:03.560 because it also compounds the pressure for hitting on your 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:06.160 big draft picks. And I understand that every team you 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:08.280 can look through and say, here was a high pick 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:10.120 that didn't pan out, or here was one that actually 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:12.560 you got pretty good value on. But the forty nine 0:08:12.680 --> 0:08:15.720 ers have had crazy ends of the spectrum where they 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:17.960 have found future Hall of famers in the fifth round, 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:20.200 they have their franchise quarterback with the last pick of 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:23.560 the draft, and generally speaking they've struggled on a lot 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:26.160 of picks in the higher rounds Day one or at 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:28.320 times day two. I know Fred was a Day two, 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:31.840 So whatever point being is now you're looking at, hey, 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:34.080 here's another first round pick. We hope to make a 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:36.839 big leap this year in availability, turns out he's not 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:38.600 going to be even playing a snap this year, and 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:41.640 that's Ricky Piersoll. So at some point you just wonder 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:44.160 how much it can all be held together. And if 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:46.439 you can't have players like a Ricky Piersoll playing or 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:48.880 a Mikel Williams to start the season, then who are 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:50.920 the ones that are going to be those pleasant surprises 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:52.800 picking up some of that slack. Well, the one thing 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:55.720 I would say that that should still give forty nine 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:59.920 er fans some optimism is the fact that they were 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:04.280 able to navigate last season at the level that they did, 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:07.280 and that had been something that they had not really 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:10.479 been able to do in the Kyle Shanahan era and 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:13.719 even most recently in twenty twenty four when that year 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:17.360 got completely away from him. Twenty twenty obviously you throw 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:19.880 that one out a lot of injuries, COVID all of 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:24.079 that eighteen was completely wrecked by the Jimmy Garoppolo injury 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:28.079 Week three at Kansas City at Arrowhead, and so you 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:30.319 look at it and it really has been the number 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:32.800 one story. But last year was really the first year 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:36.920 that they overcame a ton, maybe more than any other year. 0:09:37.320 --> 0:09:40.680 They were able to overcome and still be in a 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:43.680 position where they could win twelve games and win a 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:47.080 playoff game and have an opportunity to even go to 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:50.760 Seattle and have a shot at possibly knocking off the 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:52.960 Seahawks or maybe beating them in Week eighteen and not 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:55.440 having to go to Seattle had they been able to 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:58.640 do that. So the fact that and this is where 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:01.760 I think, and we talked to Branch about the return 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:07.199 of Kyle Shanahan and starting to make his presence felt 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:09.439 I think more and more by the day at this 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:12.720 point at forty nine ers camp, he really is. He 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:15.280 really is the ace in the hole in terms of 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:18.560 the ability. Like you feel like if you've got Kyle 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:23.000 Shanahan's leadership, and you've got his ability to call plays, 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:26.319 and you've got the culture that he's fostered with with 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:29.880 John Lynch, then you've got a shot to overcome a 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:33.720 significant level of adversity. And so I think, you know, yes, 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:37.760 there was the favorable schedule last year, to the extent 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:39.880 that it won't be this year. All of those things 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:42.959 are in play. The Niners, I think, were in large 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:46.440 part off the radar last year, which I think for them, 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:49.440 given how on the radar they had been, was refreshing 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:53.320 and they benefited from that in some ways, I think 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:56.640 similarly to maybe the way the Warriors benefited from it 0:10:56.679 --> 0:11:00.280 in the Warriors twenty one to twenty two championship run, 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:02.240 Like nobody was talking about them as a contender, and 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:03.960 then all of a sudden, they're eighteen and two and 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:06.440 they're forty one and thirteen, and they're in the in 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:11.800 a spot where they are a contender before anybody really notices. 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:14.640 So you know, they're not going to necessarily have those 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:17.000 things working for them this year the forty nine ers, 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:21.240 But I think really the leadership of Kyle Shanahan and 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:25.320 the offense, and you know, the energy of a Raheem Morris, 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:27.800 I think they're counting on to hold it all together. 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:31.560 Well, there's two names above all else that if they're available, 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:34.040 then the forty nine ers always have a chance. That's 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:38.160 Christian McCaffrey, as was displayed last year, and that's Kyle Shanahan, 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:40.679 who's also working his way back from the accident. So 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:43.000 I want to play some sound coming back from John 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:46.600 Middlecoff on the three and out podcast about just how 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:50.320 valuable Kyle Shanahan is to this organization. He compares him 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:53.480 to the likes of an NBA star. Let's unpack that, 0:11:53.559 --> 0:11:56.600 and then Susan Slusser at eleven fifty Pop and Silver 0:11:56.720 --> 0:11:58.480 with JD on the Sports Leader. 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:12.800 Let's get backed up, pop Ain's Let's get backed up 0:12:12.840 --> 0:12:19.080 Popey Silver from Memorial Stadium in Berkeley on the Sports Leader. 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:24.000 Yeah, clearly it must be Tim running the board. That's 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:26.040 the mistake of the day. Now, I'm just playing. We 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:29.280 are out here in Berkeley, cal Football Media Day. We're 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:32.520 gonna talk to Tash Lupoi and Sharon Kiave Sagapola Tela 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:35.120 coming up in about an hour or two, an hour 0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:37.000 and a half, So stay tuned for that twelve thirty 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:41.000 to one fifteen window. Really looking forward to an exciting 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:44.959 young team up and coming, potentially uh proud members of 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:48.000 the ACC in today's world of college football. I almost 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:50.400 asked Christian McCaffrey about the demise of the PAC twelve 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:52.559 and then I was like, h he's got other things 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:53.199 to worry about. 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:57.240 You gotta tell me though, And like is this right? 0:12:57.320 --> 0:12:59.760 Like that people picking him? I mean, what a what 0:12:59.840 --> 0:13:02.599 a prognosticators know. But but people are picking Cow to 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:04.600 be twelve. Yeah, I don't buy it. I don't buy twelve. 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:08.520 I think, like we can be looking at seven maybe. 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:09.600 I mean, maybe maybe higher. 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:12.000 I mean, if you look at the schedule early on, 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:13.559 they got a chance to get off to a very 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:16.480 hot start. They're not Miami or SMU. Not saying that, 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:19.920 but no, but I didn't really twelve. I was surprised 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:23.080 to see that in doing my prep, like I was. 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:26.680 I know, it's you know, first, your coach and a 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:28.920 lot of a lot of young players that are that 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:31.560 are coming in the recruiting all of that. Like you 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:34.520 you you feel better. I guess about maybe the what 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:37.760 the twenty seven or twenty eight cal team, then maybe 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:40.280 you do about the twenty sixteen. But twelve, come. 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:45.679 On, twelve transfer portals looking goods, receivers can tight ends. 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:47.760 You can flip it in an instant. You can flip 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:48.440 it in an instant. 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:50.960 So h No, I don't buy number twelve, which was 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:53.360 not Aaron Rodgers Cow number by the way, because that 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:53.959 was retired. 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:56.520 Although off, although I will say, I mean, did you 0:13:56.559 --> 0:13:58.480 see who was seventeen? Yeah? I did. 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:00.640 I actually most of the rank. I saw it was 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:03.920 Boston College the bottom. 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Let's hear that sound from John 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:41.880 Middlecoff about Kyle Shanahan being an NBA star equivalent to 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:43.400 the forty nine ers organization. 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:45.040 Here's what he had to say on the Three and 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:46.040 Out podcast. 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:48.680 It's interesting with the forty nine ers is that Kyle 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:52.680 is so respected that it sort of bulldozes any mistakes 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:53.920 or missteps in his life. 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:55.240 You're very close to the Niners. 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:56.160 What are you forecast? 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:58.880 Kyle Shanahan, is the most important guy in the organization. 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:00.880 They went to Philly last year a playoff game without 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:02.960 George Kittle, without Fred Warren, with down Nick Bosa. If 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:05.560 they got Kyle Shanahan, they're gonna be okay. I think 0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:08.320 actually parallel might be a little Sean Payton and his dad. 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:10.320 They are tough. Kyle to me, is the equivalent of 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:12.560 like an NBA star. He's that important, like if you got. 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:14.960 Jokic, your floor is still pretty high, or Lebron in 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:17.560 his prime or Curry. That's what Kyle is. It's pretty rare. 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:19.120 It doesn't really exist in the NFL. 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:21.560 I think if they just had a notch below him, 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:23.560 it could have unraveled multiple times. 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:27.520 I agree with what middle Koff is saying that you 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:30.080 don't really talk about that in the NFL. When it 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:33.000 comes to a coach, usually it's a quarterback, it's a 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:36.000 key defensive player on the edge. Head coach, and I 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:39.520 know hasn't won at the Super Bowl. You could gripe 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:42.520 about maybe some mismanagement late in games and fourth quarters. 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:45.360 I understand all of that, but I'm also talking about 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:47.640 the course of an entirety of a season and always 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:50.720 giving you a chance Christian McCaffrey Kyle Shanahan. 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:53.040 To me, those are the two names. Those are the 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:57.120 two names and have been able to in many ways 0:15:57.280 --> 0:16:01.360 hold this thing up in times where there's been some 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:04.280 pretty adverse circumstances. I think the defense as well. I mean, 0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:08.040 the truly dominant defense that they had going back to 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:10.520 twenty nine. I'm sorry, going back to twenty I'm going 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:13.640 back to nineteen and twenty and twenty one. You know, 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:15.840 the defense was on a different level twenty two. I 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:18.080 think it started to fray really in twenty three and 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:20.960 they didn't quite have enough maybe to get over the hump. 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:23.880 Needed a little bit more offense in that twenty three 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:26.520 season to offset the fact that the defense was was 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:28.440 kind of falling apart on him in twenty three and 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:30.960 then really did in twenty four. 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:34.160 Yeah, and it's never just one individual. You could also 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:37.240 point to Eddie Pinero helping save special teams last year, 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:40.840 Mac Jones, Robert sla of course, but Kyle Shanahan being 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:42.960 the guy that's always going to give you a chance, 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:45.800 and last year to me really proved it. Not because 0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:48.080 of the amount of games they won, but you could 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:49.480 look there at the end of the team and say 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:51.720 the forty nine ers were a very good football team 0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:54.120 even with all of what they lost. You know how 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:56.840 we know that because they do what good football teams do, 0:16:57.160 --> 0:16:59.160 which is beat up on bad teams, which they had 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:01.480 a lot of on their scale. And then they also 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:04.040 won a playoff game on the road. That's not counting 0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:08.360 for nothing. It wasn't just some odd juxtaposition of yeah, well, 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:10.680 Seattle dominated them twice at the end of the year, 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:13.879 and they never really looked comparable. It's a better competition, 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:16.320 but they also beat up on the bad teams too. 0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:19.800 They have been, I mean, really Seattle the Seattle game, 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:21.439 and they were they were clearly, as we talked to 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:24.240 Trent Williams, just just out of gas right when it 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:26.480 came to everything they put into the Philly game and 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:28.359 the injuries and the run that they had to get 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:30.760 on to get to that point where they were just 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:34.120 going to be going to Philly and and missing out 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:36.320 on the division championship in the final week of the 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:38.800 season and all of that. They just ran out of 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:41.639 gas against a team that was at that point in 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:46.640 Seattle still ascending to what they ultimately had had become. 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:51.760 But I think, I mean it truly. I mean you 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:54.639 look at that that team. You know, Trent acknowledged the 0:17:54.720 --> 0:18:00.000 fact that they've won. They've won multiple playoff games every 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:04.560 year up until this year, they've won multiple road playoff 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:06.359 games like there has never been an instance and this 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:08.639 is why I brought up Seattle. There's never been an 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:10.600 instance when you throw that game, when if you take 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:13.119 that one game out where the forty nine ers have 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:16.679 been just completely unprepared in a playoff game, like there 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:18.840 have been games that they haven't played well, even the 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:21.600 Super Bowls. Right the Super Bowls, they were they were 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:23.480 prepared to play at the beginning of the game and 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:25.239 in both of those games to the point where they 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:28.680 were able to have leads in both of those games. 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:31.320 And again that doesn't always mean you're going to be ahead. 0:18:31.320 --> 0:18:33.160 We've seen them have to come back and be able 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:35.159 to do it against Green Bay and the Lions in 0:18:35.200 --> 0:18:39.040 the in the twenty three season. But they they are 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:42.800 always prepared to the point where you feel like they've 0:18:42.880 --> 0:18:46.400 they've got a shot to win every single big game. 0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:48.520 I really, I mean you can count. I mean how 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:51.280 many games like Seattle have there even been in big 0:18:51.320 --> 0:18:55.199 spots in years where in years where it hasn't just 0:18:55.280 --> 0:18:59.160 been hey, this isn't a good football team twenty twenty twenty. 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:01.400 Getting into the post. I mean, I mean that's the one. 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:03.399 I mean, that's the only one, real one. Even the 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:05.639 bigger regular season games that have set up. GEM mean, 0:19:05.720 --> 0:19:07.880 you go to Seattle and you win in twenty nineteen, 0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:11.359 You've wanted Seattle a bunch over the year, just like 0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:13.360 you look at some of the games on the road 0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:17.440 against the Rams, like they're they're always prepared and held 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:20.320 together even in the even in the biggest games. Well, 0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:21.120 remember last. 0:19:20.960 --> 0:19:23.240 Year in August when we were going through the different 0:19:23.359 --> 0:19:26.359 joint practices of preseason, and some of that was with 0:19:26.440 --> 0:19:28.320 the Chargers at the end, so we got into the 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:31.919 conversation about Harbov versus Shanahan and the legacy as a 0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:35.000 head coach of the forty nine ers. Wildly different styles 0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:37.800 and personalities, but when you looked at the resume, it 0:19:37.960 --> 0:19:41.560 was awfully similar in terms of the heights they reached, 0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:45.119 coming so close, neither one able to quite capture the 0:19:45.160 --> 0:19:49.920 six Lombardy, some championship game heartbreaks as well. Generally very 0:19:49.920 --> 0:19:53.040 physical and competitive teams. And I remember saying at the 0:19:53.040 --> 0:19:55.240