1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: And very Happy Tuesday to you at twelve oh six 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: in the West each the John Phillip Show, mister Randy 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: Weggs in Culver City. 4 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:08,399 Speaker 2: Well John. 5 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 3: After a lot of whining and kicking and screaming about 6 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 3: so many candidates not being invited to the Big Debate tonight, 7 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 3: the Big Debate got canceled. 8 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 2: No, that's right. 9 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: The University of Southern California was supposed to host an 10 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:33,959 Speaker 1: ubernatorial debate tonight with ABC seven and Univision. However, they 11 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 1: were going to leave out all the minority candidates. Yeah, 12 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: how was that going to go on UNIVISIONE when none 13 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: of the candidates who were on the stage spoke Spanish. 14 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 2: You know what USC was trying to do. 15 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: They were trying to give the white Democrats the Bush push? 16 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 2: Remember that, what was the Bush push? 17 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: The Bush push was when Reggie Bush, who was then 18 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: a running back for the University of Southern California, probably 19 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:07,479 Speaker 1: the best one they've had since OJ Simpson, and they 20 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: were playing the Notre Dame fighting Irish and it was 21 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 1: a year when USC was on fire. I think Matt 22 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: Lioner was the quarterback and he needed to get into 23 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: the end zone for USC. To win the game, and 24 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: they gave him the ball and then a bunch of 25 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 1: them got behind him and just shoved him as hard 26 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: as they could, and then he made his way into 27 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: the end zone and you're not supposed to be able 28 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: to do that, but they counted it. It was a 29 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: touchdown sc one and I think they went on to 30 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: win the national championship that year. But they called it 31 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: the Bush Push, And it seems like that's what the 32 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: Democratic Party and that's what the University of Southern California 33 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: and ABC seven and Univision were trying to do. They 34 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: don't want the minority candidates on stage because they don't 35 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: want to split the vote and allow to republic Pulicans 36 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: to end up on the November ballot, so they decided 37 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: to give the white Dems the Bush Push. 38 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 3: Now, what was being complained about was how it was 39 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 3: very confusing as the eligibility rules for this debate, because 40 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 3: you could say, well, you only want the high polling 41 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 3: candidates there. And as much as he's probably the most 42 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 3: common sense person on that side, Matt Mayheon was not 43 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 3: high polling. 44 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: No, no, he wasn't. And think about this, Think about this, 45 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: when you look at the public polling. What the public 46 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: polling essentially tells you is a couple of things. One 47 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: is the candidates, particularly the Democratic candidates, are all bunched 48 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: up together and there's no front runner. 49 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 2: If you go back and. 50 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: You look at the latest Public Policy Institute of California poll, 51 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 1: they found Steve Hilton in first place at fourteen percent, 52 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: Katie Porter in second place at thirteen percent, Chad Bianco 53 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: in third with twelve percent, then Eric Swalwell at eleven, 54 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: Styre at ten, Via Gosa, Bissa and ye all at 55 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: five percent. Now here's what's interesting. In that poll, the 56 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: margin of era was three point nine percent, let's call 57 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: it four percent, So that means there could be an 58 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: eight point swing in any of those numbers, and that 59 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: would be within the results of the poll. 60 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 2: What you end up. 61 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: With is Yee, Vira, Gosa and bisera polling within the 62 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: margin of air of the top performing Democrat in this poll, 63 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: that being Katie Porter. How do you tell them to 64 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: get out when they're statistically tied with the best performing democrat. 65 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: How do you say it's not your turn, get out 66 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: and go endorse Katie Porter or Eric Swalwell or Tom 67 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: stutt I don't see how you say that, especially when 68 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: you look at all the other metrics, because these aren't gadflies. 69 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: These are professional politicians and they're doing all of the 70 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: things that you would do if you were running for office. 71 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: They've been elected to high office before. Many of them 72 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: are statewide constitutional office holders. Antoniol Via Ragoso was the 73 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: mayor of Los Angeles. They've demonstrated the ability to raise 74 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 1: large sums of money. They have a list of endorsements 75 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 1: that goes on longer than a receiped CVS. 76 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:41,559 Speaker 2: What more do you want? 77 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: They're doing the same things as Tom Steyer and Katie 78 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: Porter and Eric Swalwell. Why should they take the knee? 79 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: But that's what the Democratic Party wants them to do 80 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: because they do not want two Republicans on that November ballot. 81 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: And right now, according to internal polling from the Democratic Party, 82 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: that's exactly what would happen. And USC goes, well, there's 83 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: not enough room on stage for everyone. 84 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 2: How many podiums did they need? Well, think about it. 85 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: You have the two Republicans, you have all the white Democrats, 86 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: that's Porter, Swollwell and Styre. And given the fact that 87 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: it's USC, they probably had to make room for Lori 88 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: Laughlan's kids, maybe Felicity Huffman too. Are you telling me 89 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: that you can't put four more podiums on that stage? 90 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 3: Well, I will say, for a televised debate, if you 91 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 3: have that many people on it once, you're not going 92 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 3: to get to many questions at all. No, But if 93 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 3: they're all bunched up together, what else are you supposed 94 00:05:59,360 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 3: to do? 95 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 2: That's the problem. If Kamala was in. 96 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: The race, she would be way ahead of everyone and 97 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: this wouldn't be an issue. Inexplicably, but that would be 98 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: the case. I will had had Alex Paedia gotten in 99 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: the race, he would have been way ahead of everyone else. 100 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 2: But the two people that. 101 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: Everyone expected to get in the race decided to take 102 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 1: a pass. And now you have a bunch of people 103 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 1: that most voters don't like, or they don't know, or 104 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 1: they don't know. 105 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 2: That's fair too. 106 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 3: I don't know if anyone has a negative opinion of 107 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 3: Betty Ye. They just have never heard of her. 108 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: No, And because Gavin Newsom doesn't care, we have an 109 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: absentee landlord governor. He's not even here half the time. 110 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: Democratic voters have no direction in terms of which direction 111 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: to go. 112 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 2: In Well, it's worse than that. 113 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 3: Gavin Newsom has been so provocative that he's actually sucking 114 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 3: up all the oxygen where you think a lame duck 115 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 3: governor wouldn't be getting this much coverage because of all 116 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 3: this stuff he does on social media, because of the 117 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 3: traveling around the country and the book tour and the podcast. 118 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 2: He's getting all the coverage. 119 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 3: And nobody's even aware that there is a governor's race. 120 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: No, so what happens. Everyone finds their tribe. So you 121 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: have all the environmentalists they go with Tom Steyer, all 122 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: the bipolar women they go with Katie Porter. 123 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 2: Winter Winter chicken dinner. 124 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: All the Bay Area people they go to Eric Swolwell. 125 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: The Mexicans they go to Vierragosa and Biserra. The Blacks 126 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: they go to Thurman, The Asians they go to e. 127 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 2: Well. 128 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: You end up splitting up the pie then, and that's 129 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: what they're left with. 130 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 2: And if you're the. 131 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: Republicans, what you want and what you need And I 132 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: know he disagrees with us. Steve Hilton, by the way, 133 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: is going to join us at twelve thirty five. And 134 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: maybe we'll have this fight, maybe we won't. 135 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 2: I don't know. 136 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: But what Republicans should do is they need to split 137 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: their vote as close to fifty to fifty as humanly possible. 138 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: If Republicans can split their vote fifty to fifty between 139 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: Hilton and Bianco, that is the only chance they have 140 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: at getting someone in that office. I don't think that 141 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: either Republican could beat any of those Democrats in a 142 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,119 Speaker 1: statewide head to head race. 143 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 2: I don't see that happening. 144 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: The one that they'd probably have the best shot against 145 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 1: is Katie Porter, because she's so personally offensive. You can 146 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: s R here, but she still has a D next 147 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: to her name, and that's probably good enough. You don't 148 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: need to win by twenty points. You need to win 149 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: by one vote, and she would start out with such 150 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: an advantage just in terms of voter registration that it 151 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 1: would be a huge upset if she were lose. 152 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 2: So that's not likely. Plus any day those cooking videos 153 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 2: are going to go viral. 154 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 3: Sorry for the noise, I'm cutting carrots. 155 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 2: If she loses, she should end up on the Food Network. 156 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 2: Replace the Barefoot Contessa with her. 157 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: Hey, at some point you're going to have to replace her. 158 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: But it is panic mode right now at the California 159 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: Democratic Party headquarters, because they now look at this race 160 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: and they see the likely scenario as two Republicans on 161 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: the November ballot. They themselves put that out to day. 162 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: Whether they believe it or not, I don't know, but 163 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: they're concerned enough to put that on social media. 164 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 3: I mean it might be a tactic that hey, we 165 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 3: need to start putting this out there as a wake 166 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 3: up call pay attention to this race. And a great 167 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 3: opportunity for people to pay attention to the race would 168 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 3: have been a debate. But now that debate just got canceled. 169 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: But here's the other problem. The three white Dems that 170 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: they're trying to clear the way for are deeply flawed, 171 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: deeply flawed. What do you think the odds are that 172 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 1: there are additional videos that exist of Katie Porter telling 173 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: an aid to f off. 174 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 3: Can you put odds at over one hundred percent? 175 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 2: You're out of my shop. 176 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 1: You're gonna talk to have to talk to the boys 177 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: in Las Vegas about that one. But she's one bad 178 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: video away from going to two percent. Eric Swalwell has 179 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: no judgment at all. He slept with a spy. What 180 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: do you think the odds are He's dabbled with the 181 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 1: staffers too, And what do you think the odds are 182 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: that we're going to find out about it before the election? 183 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: Democratic strategists have tweeted something to that effect out before 184 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: people in the know, people on the fringes, people who 185 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 1: work are working for candidates who are currently in the race, 186 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: They fully anticipate that happening, and depending on who it 187 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: is and what the details are, it could be catastrophic 188 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: for him. And then you have Tom Steyer, who is 189 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: a billionaire who is overtly trying to buy the office. 190 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 2: We're in a big ass crisis. 191 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: And if you're just a partisan and you don't care, 192 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: I guess that's okay. But that rubs people the wrong way. 193 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: No one wants to feel like the office is just 194 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: for sale and the highest bidder gets it well. 195 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 3: And who exactly is the electorate here? You have an 196 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 3: election where people might be voting on taxing billionaires and 197 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 3: then they're going to put a billionaire in the highest 198 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 3: office in the state. 199 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 2: It doesn't make sense. 200 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: So if you have those three deeply flawed candidates who 201 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: are doing the best right now now, none of them 202 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: are the front runner, none of them are running away 203 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: with it, and the filing deadline, by the way, has 204 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: come and gone, which means there's going to be no 205 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: White Knight coming to save the Democratic Party. 206 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 2: It's not like George Clooney or. 207 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: Someone like that is going to announce their candidacy at 208 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: the last minute and everyone's going to go vote for him. 209 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: You're on the ballot today or you're not getting on 210 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: because the filing deadline is coming gone. The Democratic Party 211 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: convention where they do endorsements that is come and gone. 212 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: They're not going to have another one. So what would 213 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: end up happening is the also rans. The people who 214 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: aren't pulling in the top three slots, they're going. 215 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 2: To get a second look. 216 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: Because if the three people who are pulling the best 217 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: all implode, then Antonio is going to get a second look, 218 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: but Sarah's going to get a second look. Tony Thurman's 219 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: going to get a second look, and Betty Yee's going 220 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: to get a second look. But if you drop out 221 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: before that happens, you're not going to be one of 222 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: the candidates that gets a second look. And you could 223 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: pull the pin on the grenade before you give yourself 224 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: a chance to win. 225 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 2: And this has happened before. 226 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: By the way, if you go back to nineteen ninety eight, 227 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: this was an election that happened after the Republicans controlled 228 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: the governor's office for sixteen straight years. I know that's 229 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: hard to believe, but it actually happened eight years of 230 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 1: George Duke Magin, eight years of Pete Wilson. Pete Wilson 231 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: was a popular governor leaving office and the Democrats. Back 232 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: then we had closed primaries, so only Democrats could vote 233 00:13:55,920 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: in the Democratic primary. And you had three candidates who 234 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:05,719 Speaker 1: were running. You had Al Checkie, a billionaire. You had 235 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: Jane Harmon who was rich Er Stell for husband. Sydney 236 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: Harmon did Harmon stereos and she was the congresswoman from 237 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: the South Bay. And then you had Gray Davis, who 238 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: was the lieutenant governor. And in that election you had 239 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: two wealthy candidates go nuclear on one another, Checkie and Harmon. 240 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: They attacked each other viciously on the television, on the radio, 241 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: in your mailbox every single day. And Gray Davis at 242 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: that time was given zero chance at winning the election. 243 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: But what did he do. He just hung around. He 244 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: just stayed in the race and did his thing. And 245 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: those two disqualified one another by going to war with 246 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: each other, and Grey Davis ended up being last man 247 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: standing and he won the election. He was one of 248 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: these statewide constitutional officeholders that. 249 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 2: People kind of knew but didn't really know. 250 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: But he had run for office before he understood politics, 251 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: and he was able to win. And a lot of 252 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: these people who they're trying to kick off the stage 253 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: have many of those same qualities, and they're thinking to themselves, 254 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: why should I get out? 255 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 2: Why should I get out now? 256 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: In particular for these people, And if it ends up 257 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: with two Republicans on the November ballot, I'll be as 258 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: happy as a clam. I don't have a problem with 259 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: that the way I see it. If you want things 260 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: to get better in California, as a Republican or a Democrat, 261 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: what you need is you need one of the people 262 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: who seems to care about fixing the state in that office. 263 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 2: And right now there's only four of them. 264 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: It's both Republicans Bianco and Hilton, and on the Democratic 265 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: side you have Mayhan and via Regosa. They are the 266 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: only ones talking about state issues. Everyone else is talking 267 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: about Donald Trump. Everyone else is talking about federal issues Washington, 268 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: d C. Because they don't understand what's going on in 269 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: the state, and if you don't understand it, you shouldn't 270 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: be put in charge. So right now, if Republicans can 271 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: figure out how to split their vote fifty to fifty 272 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: for Bianco and Hilton, you might be sitting in the 273 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: catbird seed. That might be the play right now. So 274 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: don't trash one another, don't go so nuclear on one another. 275 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: Understand that your only shot is sticking together. That's the 276 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: only way it's gonna work. And if you're the Democrats, 277 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: I don't know what you do right now. I really don't, 278 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 1: because your opportunity at fixing this was about six months ago, 279 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: and for whatever reason, they chose not to. 280 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 2: And now they're paying for it. 281 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,719 Speaker 1: One of the things that happens in a one party 282 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: state is when your working assumption is that you're gonna 283 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 1: win everything and it doesn't matter if you work for 284 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 1: it or not. Every once in a while you get 285 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: stun and this can be one of those elections where 286 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: they get stun. 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Download all the episodes to 301 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 3: your phone, even if you have no intention of ever 302 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 3: listening to them, you might just want them in case 303 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 3: you're in a dead zone where you have nothing else 304 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 3: to listen to, when you're getting no internet service. They're downloaded, 305 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 3: they're ready to go, and you can enjoy yourself. 306 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 1: Eight hundred two two two five two two two is 307 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 1: telephone number one eight hundred two two two five two 308 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: two two. It is our pleasure to welcome our next 309 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: guest to the program. He is the founder of Golden 310 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: Together and host of the Steve Hilton sho He's also 311 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 1: a candidate for governor here in the state of California, 312 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: one that's been polling in first place quite consistently in 313 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: recent surveys. You can get him online at Golden toogether 314 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: dot com and follow him on X at Steve Hilton X. 315 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 4: Steve Hilton, Welcome, Welcome to you, John. I really really 316 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 4: am very excited to be with you because I get to. 317 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 5: Talk about California and now we solve our problems, which 318 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 5: we were going to be doing tonight at a debate 319 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 5: at USC, and it's been canceled, and so what a fiasco. 320 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 4: This is where we've come to in California today. Unbelievable. 321 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 2: What do you make of. 322 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: The decision by the University of Southern California because apparently, 323 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 1: I guess there was a disagreement between USC and their 324 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: news partners ABC seven and Univision as to who would 325 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,239 Speaker 1: be invited and who would be excluded, and then at 326 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: the last minute they decided they couldn't come to an 327 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: answer that everyone could agree on, and so they just 328 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: canceled the entire time. 329 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is actually all about the corrupt Democrat machine 330 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 4: that's been running our state into the ground for all 331 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 4: these years, and it's totally on display, and it is 332 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 4: not a pretty site. Here's what actually happened. You had 333 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 4: a bunch of lpds, as I call them, low polling 334 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 4: Democrats who were cut off from being included in the 335 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 4: debate because they neither had the poll numbers nor the 336 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 4: fundraising numbers to make the cuts, and so, led by 337 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 4: Javier Basera, they started whining last week and started to 338 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 4: try and get themselves included. Of course, because they're Democrats, 339 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 4: they played the race card, claiming that it was the 340 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 4: people of color, as they put it, who were excluded 341 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 4: from the debate, nothing to do with race. They were 342 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 4: excluded because they're not doing well enough in the race, 343 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 4: not because of race. Nevertheless, they kept going with their protests. 344 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 4: They were joined on Monday yesterday. Now you had the 345 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 4: whole Democrat machine weighing in. You had all the usual 346 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 4: suspects from the California State Legislature of the Democrat factions 347 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 4: and pressure groups, the Latino Caucus, the Black Caucus, the 348 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 4: LGBTQ Caucus, the Native American, the women, all of the 349 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 4: different groups. They wrote a letter complaining that their colleagues 350 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 4: had been left off, and instead of standing up to them, 351 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 4: USC just completely caved and the whole thing is preposterous. 352 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 4: There's one thing also that I think we need to 353 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 4: point out, which is that they were in very weak 354 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 4: ground because they actually rigged their own rules after the 355 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 4: original set of criteria were published in order to get 356 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 4: Matt Mayhan into the debate. That is a fair criticism 357 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 4: because they invented this whole new category of fundraising criteria 358 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 4: purely to get Matt Mayhan in there, and I don't 359 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 4: think that was fair. Rule. I have no time for 360 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 4: the whining from the LPDS about why they're excluded, but 361 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 4: I do think it's a fair criticism that Matt Mayhan, 362 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 4: who's also an LPD, he's not going in right, he's 363 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 4: on two three four percent in the polls, but he's 364 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 4: got a ton of money from big tech, all in 365 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 4: a rush, and so they tried to squeeze him in. 366 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 4: I don't think that was right. 367 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,199 Speaker 1: Let me make the case for the LPDS here for 368 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: a second, because you look at the top three polling 369 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: Democrats in this race, Katie Porter, Ye, Eric Swollwell, and 370 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 1: Tom Steyer. All of those candidates are deeply flawed, deeply, deeply, 371 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: deeply flawed. We know that Katie porter who cannot promise 372 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: that there are no more videos that exist of her 373 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,479 Speaker 1: telling staffers to f off, and she is one video 374 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: of telling the stafferd to f off from going from 375 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 1: where she's at right now to two percent in the polls. 376 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: We know that Tom Steyer is trying to buy the 377 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 1: office and that has limited appeedal There are certain people 378 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: who are such hyperpartisans they're willing to go with them 379 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: because they think he can spend his own money and 380 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: he can win the office. But that's it's not a 381 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 1: majority of the people out there. I do not believe. 382 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: I think that people fundamentally do not believe that is fair, 383 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: and it's not a good look for him, and it's 384 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:13,239 Speaker 1: certainly not helpful at winning support. And then you have 385 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 1: Eric Swalwell, who might have the worst judgment in this race, 386 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: a guy who slept with a Chinese spy, and many 387 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: of the tweets have been deleted, but there are big 388 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 1: time Democratic consultants in this race who are not working 389 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 1: for him obviously, who have tweeted that he is going 390 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: to have additional sex scandals involving staffers that are going 391 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: to come out before this election is over, and he 392 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: is not going to be their standard bearer. Because you 393 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: have those three candidates with all of those problems, they 394 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 1: could all implode before election day. And if you're one 395 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,719 Speaker 1: of these low polling Democrats, you're looking at these people 396 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: and you go, Okay, these are unstable lunatics. At some 397 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: point they may take a second look at me. I'm 398 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: not going to drop out of the race. I'm going 399 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 1: to keep going. 400 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a good argument. You always you're always very 401 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 4: thoughtful about this stuff. It's a very good argument. I 402 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 4: understand that. I guess my point is that's all well 403 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 4: and good. But they set some rules and you know 404 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 4: that that's that was decided, and now they're complaining after 405 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 4: the fact they shouldn't have caved. I think that's the problem. 406 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 4: I think that the issue is for the Democrat maybe 407 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 4: the maybe the right way through this, I think is 408 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 4: for the Democrats to have their own debate, because when 409 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 4: you've got you know, and and the choice here is 410 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 4: so clear between you know, four more years or eight 411 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,719 Speaker 4: more years of one party ruled by the Democrats and 412 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 4: a change, you know. I mean my experience of all 413 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 4: these Democrats on the stages, they're all the same. I've 414 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 4: now done a bunch of done, a bunch of demo 415 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 4: debates with them, including some that will televised, others that 416 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 4: were not. There's no difference really between them in terms 417 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 4: of what they say. I mean, they're slight variations, but 418 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,959 Speaker 4: basically they're all the same as each other, are all 419 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 4: the same as what we've got now where we need 420 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 4: a real choice, we need change in California. I take 421 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 4: the point, I mean, but look, they're just not going anywhere. 422 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 4: They're not impressive. They're not impressing anybody but Sarah and 423 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 4: Betty Yee and Tony Thurmon. The don't heard of any 424 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 4: of these people. Via ra Gosa has the best name recognition, 425 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,719 Speaker 4: I would argue, I guess after all those years, you know, 426 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 4: being mayor of la And I like Antonio, actually, I 427 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 4: really do. And actually, to be fair to him, he's 428 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,360 Speaker 4: on some issues, for example, on gas and oil and gas. 429 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 4: He's definitely the least insane of the Democrats. So I 430 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 4: don't know, but the whole appearance of this is just 431 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 4: a shambles. Just to cancel a debate with less than 432 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 4: twenty four hours before it's supposed to happen, it's just ridiculous. 433 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: How much of the problem do you think a lot 434 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: of these people are having and you said that they're 435 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: anonymous and they're having a hard time breaking through and 436 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: becoming well known. How much of that do you think 437 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: is avansfault? Because Gavin is trying to take up as 438 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: much oxygen in the room as humanly possible to sell 439 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: his book, to promote himself as a presidential candidate, to 440 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 1: go on the national shows, the national podcast, travel around 441 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: other states, other countries, trying to make himself look like 442 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: the leader of the opposition. And if you are a 443 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 1: candidate for governor in the Democratic Party, I don't know 444 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 1: how you break through when you have your incumbent governor 445 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 1: who doesn't even seem to care, by the way, as 446 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: to who replaces him. But what he's trying to do 447 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 1: is accumulate all the attention humanly possible at your expense. 448 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 4: One hundred percent. I think that's a great point. And 449 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 4: I would add, and now that totally narcissistic self regarding 450 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 4: self promoting Democrat career politician to the problem for them, 451 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 4: And that's Kamala Harris, who's also in the same book 452 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 4: because she decided not to run for governor. If she'd 453 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 4: have run for governor of California. She as all the 454 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 4: polling shows she would have completely cleared the field. Now 455 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 4: she'd have been a disaster, And actually I think that 456 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 4: I could have beaten her because we want change and 457 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 4: she's an absolute symbol of the Democrat corruption and misrule. However, 458 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 4: the fact that she chose to put her who thinks 459 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 4: she's going to be their presidential candidate, let alone president, 460 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 4: No one except her, No one wants her, that one's 461 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 4: interested in her stupid book. But that's what she put 462 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 4: that first a narcissism because she wants to be president 463 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 4: just like Gavin does. So I think it's the two 464 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 4: of them together, Kamala Harris and Gavin Newsom. I think 465 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 4: that's a very very astute observation. They are the ones 466 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 4: who have caused this problem for the California Democrats, and 467 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 4: we're left with a bunch of complete non entities and 468 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 4: career politicians that nobody wants. It's an amazing situation, given. 469 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: The fact that they've created this wake of destruction behind 470 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: them as they have. It seems like so many of 471 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: these Democratic candidates for going are unwilling to publicly criticize Gavin. 472 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: There was just an interview with Ashley Zavala that was 473 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: posted on social media involving Tom Steyer, where he was 474 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 1: asked the question, point blank a through f how would 475 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: you grade Gavin Newsom's performance? And his answer was I 476 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: haven't paid attention, so I can't give him a grade. 477 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,360 Speaker 4: It's unbelieve. It's laughable. With every aspect of that is laughable. 478 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 4: The first is like the fact that he has not 479 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 4: is so little self awareness that he thinks that's a 480 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 4: good answer, that that's a good dodge to a question. 481 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:36,959 Speaker 4: And what are you talking about. You're running for governor 482 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 4: and you've paid so little attention to our state that 483 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 4: you couldn't even make an assessment of the incumbents record. 484 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 4: I mean, it's just ridiculous. The other one, of course, 485 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 4: was Eric Swolwells, in a different interview, was asked, can 486 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 4: you name a single thing that Gavin got wrong or 487 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 4: could have done? But he couldn't think of a single thing, 488 00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 4: not one. These people are not serious and it's shows you, 489 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 4: just as with the fuss over this debate, the Democrats 490 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 4: just put their own interests first. They just this is 491 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 4: what happens actually, after sixteen years of one party rule. 492 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 4: They get very self absorbed. They're not really interested in 493 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 4: They don't think they need to pay attention or even 494 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 4: care about the views of the public. It's all about 495 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 4: managing their internal coalition. Note they don't want to annoy 496 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 4: Gavin Newsom because they think you might help them or 497 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 4: endorse them or whatever it may be. I don't know. 498 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 4: And they say these ridiculous things that make them seem 499 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 4: just so out of touch. But they're so arrogant. They 500 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 4: really do assume that they're going to be re elected 501 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 4: and their power is going. 502 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: To go on forever, assuming that they're going to continue 503 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: to try to push these candidates out of the race. 504 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: The carrot hasn't worked. How long do you think they're 505 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: going to give it before the stick comes out and 506 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: they start ruining these people's lives trying to push them 507 00:29:55,280 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: out of the race, turn them into unemployable, unelectable pariahs. 508 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 4: It's interesting because they've tried all that and they've really failed, 509 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 4: and now they're on the ballot. So the truth is 510 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 4: that even if these candidates drop out, they will still 511 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 4: appear on the ballot even if they're not running. And 512 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 4: so given that they're only getting to you know, one 513 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 4: or two three percent. Anyway, maybe they'll get that in 514 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 4: the actual election without even being in the race, and 515 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 4: that causes a problem when it's a tight finish, and 516 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 4: so I think they really are in a mess. I 517 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 4: think the only thing that we need to be careful 518 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 4: of for those of us who are desperate for change 519 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 4: in California, and obviously the only real change is going 520 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 4: to be a change of political control. At the moment. 521 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 4: There's a lot of speculation and excitement actually in republic 522 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 4: on the Republicans side. I see it all the time. 523 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 4: Oh it's great. Look you've got Steve Hilton leading and 524 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 4: Chad is second, and we're going to have two Republicans 525 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 4: in the top two and so on. I just don't 526 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 4: think that's a realistic scenario. I mean, I agree with 527 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 4: you about Eric Swirlwel's vulnerabilities, but look at what's actually happening. 528 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 4: He got the big union endorsement, the SEIU, He's getting 529 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 4: all of the Pelos t crew endorsing him, Adam Schiff 530 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 4: and so on. I have a feeling that Eric Swolwell 531 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 4: is going to start consolidating the Democrat machine for all 532 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 4: his weaknesses, and so he might start moving up. And 533 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 4: then Tom Seyer, I mean, he's spent eighty million interest, 534 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 4: as he said earlier, spent this huge amount of money, Well, 535 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 4: what's another eighty or one hundred million to him nothing, 536 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 4: and maybe that moves him up a couple of poles. 537 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 4: So I think that the real risk for us is 538 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 4: that if we continue to divide the vote, that I'm ahead, 539 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 4: and that's great, but you know, it's still pretty evenly split. 540 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 4: There's a real chance. I think the much more realistic 541 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 4: chance than you get to Republicans in the top two 542 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 4: is actually that you get two Democrats. And that's why 543 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 4: I very strongly argue that it really is time for 544 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 4: us to get behind one Republican. And I think that 545 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 4: it's clear now, it's very consistent in the last couple 546 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 4: of months that I'm leading, and so that would be 547 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 4: my argument to Republicans, Let's get behind the leading candidate. 548 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: Here's my pushback on that theory. The one union that 549 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: hasn't weighed in yet is arguably the most powerful union 550 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: in the state of California, at the California Teachers Association. 551 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: And right now what you're seeing is you're seeing this 552 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: coordinated effort. They won't acknowledge it because it's illegal. But 553 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: there is a coordinated effort in big city school districts 554 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: all over the state Los Angeles, San Francisco, Oakland, Vallejo, 555 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: other places where the teachers are voting to authorize a 556 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: strike and they are trying to force these districts to 557 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: give them everything they want and more, even though if 558 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: the districts do what they want, they will go insolvent, 559 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,719 Speaker 1: and the teachers are going in pedal to the medal. 560 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: They don't seem to care about bankrupting these districts. They 561 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: just want all the silver they can get. And my 562 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: theory is that they are going to extract a promise 563 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: from whichever candidate they endorse that if that person wins, 564 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: all of these districts get a bail out from Sacramento 565 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: so they get their raises and they can continue to operate. 566 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: If you look at the Democratic side of the aisle, 567 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: I think that Swalwell would make that deal with them. 568 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: I think that Porter would make that deal with them. 569 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: I think the non vie ragsa low polling Dems would 570 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: make that deal with them. And I think that Swalwell 571 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 1: is probably the least likely to cut that deal because 572 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: right now, he sees himself as the most likely Democrat 573 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: to advance to November, and he wouldn't want that news 574 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: hanging around his neck, that promise to the teachers' union, 575 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: because he could see himself getting elected and that would 576 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: destroy his public image if he went around bailing out 577 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 1: all of these disaster school districts as his first order 578 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 1: of business. I think they're more likely to endorse someone 579 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: other than Eric Swalwell, which would then split those union endorsements. 580 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 4: I think that's right if they If that happens then 581 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 4: and they so far have shown absolutely no ability to 582 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 4: coordinate or coalesce, so that that would continue the pattern. 583 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 4: If the two big ones SEIU and then the teachers 584 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:17,240 Speaker 4: went in different directions, then that the CTA, the other teachers' 585 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 4: unions have endorsed elsewhere. But if those two real you know, 586 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 4: you know, giant ones went separate directions, that would be 587 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 4: the pattern that we've seen so far, and that's one 588 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 4: of the reasons why they're in this mess. I have 589 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 4: to be honest, though, John, I think you're giving Eric 590 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:34,240 Speaker 4: Swallow far too credit for being a serious, thoughtful candidate 591 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 4: who actually cares about anything in the real world. Other 592 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 4: than his own candidacy. I just can't believe he thinks 593 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,879 Speaker 4: like that. I truly don't. I just think he's he's 594 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 4: all about himself. I mean, look at these you know, 595 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 4: he's just constantly promoting himself for years, That's what it's 596 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 4: been all about. And if you look at what he says, 597 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 4: there's barely anything substantive on solving our problems. Is it's 598 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 4: all Trump, trump, trump and political you know, rhetoric and 599 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 4: superficial logans rather than any kind of thing. And there's 600 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 4: no sign that he's done a single thing to think 601 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 4: about how he would solve our problems. And I've seen 602 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 4: him on these debates now and he's one of the 603 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 4: things he constantly says, he thinks it's a nice little 604 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 4: I don't know why he thinks this is good, but 605 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 4: I suppose for a Democrat audience they lap it up. 606 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:20,399 Speaker 4: He says that my top three priorities for governor revenue, revenue, revenue, 607 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 4: we need more revenue. Really, they've nearly doubled the budget 608 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,320 Speaker 4: in the last five years and they want more revenue. 609 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 4: We've paid the highest taxes in the country for the 610 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,319 Speaker 4: worst results, but they just want more money. And so 611 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,439 Speaker 4: I don't know. I think that he's just I don't 612 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 4: think that he's a serious person at all in the 613 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 4: sense of thinking about the actual issues and developing solutions 614 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 4: to them. 615 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 1: Let me ask you one policy question. We have about 616 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: sixty seconds before we have to go. We mentioned that 617 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 1: the Democratic candidates have been hesitant to criticize Gavin Newsom. 618 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: One piece of legislation that Gavin Newsom has signed would 619 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 1: allow elderly inmates to be released from prison, regardless of 620 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: what they were sentenced to by a judge and a jury. 621 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: We have seen any number of very dangerous sex offenders 622 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: get released or the parole boards have voted to release 623 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 1: them from prison, one after another after another. It's not 624 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 1: an anomaly. It's what's going on right now in the 625 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 1: state of California. How big of a problem is that 626 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 1: right now? 627 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 4: It's a huge problem. I've discussed it with many people 628 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,800 Speaker 4: in law enforcement, including yesterday I had a very important 629 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 4: meeting on it. And yes, it's the legislation. Remember when 630 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 4: they say elderly, this is like, what is it, fifty 631 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 4: to fifty five? Is they're not elderly. So it's outrageous 632 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 4: to describe people as elderly in their fifties, and that's 633 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 4: what we're talking about here, and you've got people, I mean, 634 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,240 Speaker 4: you look at sex offenders now in California, I'm afraid 635 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 4: to say, you've got people in their twenties and thirties 636 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 4: committing those crimes. So they're going to be out really early. Now. 637 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 4: As governor, I can't single handedly, laterally unilaterally overturn the legislation, 638 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,359 Speaker 4: which of course I'd like to do. What you can 639 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 4: do is reclassify these people and have them in a 640 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,320 Speaker 4: different category so they are not eligible for early parole. 641 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,760 Speaker 4: And the decision on that is made by the parole 642 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 4: board appointed by the governor. And I've made it absolutely 643 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 4: clear that I would immediately fire anyone on that parole 644 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 4: board who signs up to this obscenity and replace them 645 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 4: with common sense people who want to protect public safety 646 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 4: and protect victims' rights to have people put away for 647 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 4: these absolutely disgusting crimes. So, one way or another, this 648 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 4: whole disgusting joke of a policy is going to end 649 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 4: when I'm governor. 650 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 1: Steve Hilton candidate for governor, you could get him online 651 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 1: at Golden toogether dot com and follow him on exit 652 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 1: Steve Hilton next Steve Hilton, thanks so much for stopping by. 653 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,839 Speaker 4: Thank you John. Great to be with you.