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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I actually can characterize it with how you want. I
Speaker 3: wouldn't necessarily say it rebuild. I mean, obviously we move
Speaker 3: some some six major league players off of our roster today.
Speaker 3: I guess the messages we're not satisfied with the way
Speaker 3: that we've played this year, in the last few years,
Speaker 3: and we're trying everything we can to to continue to
Speaker 3: build a product that that we can all be uh,
Speaker 3: you know, excited to come and watch, and that was
Speaker 3: really the goal. And this is can we even if
Speaker 3: we have to subtract a little bit now, can we
Speaker 3: potentially add some players that we think our fans are
Speaker 3: going to be excited about and hopefully wear a Giants
Speaker 3: uniform for a long time.
Speaker 2: Buster posey on the zoom.
Speaker 4: If you're just joining us, it's all we've been talking
Speaker 4: about the first hour and twenty minutes, taking a bunch
Speaker 4: of calls, and I would have to say, if you're
Speaker 4: just joining us. The reaction has been mostly positive. There's
Speaker 4: a couple negatives saying, hey man, I don't want to
Speaker 4: wait this long, or man, what are they doing? They
Speaker 4: still got devers A Dominson Chapman.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 4: Listen, there's seventeen hunderd bro I have been agitating for
Speaker 4: this for a long time to just kind of say, listen,
Speaker 4: the direction of five hundred after five hundred, after five hundred,
Speaker 4: after five hundred after seventeen under five hundred. Nice win
Speaker 4: last night, though it recalls for something different, and now
Speaker 4: there's a direction, whether it's the starting pitching prospects of
Speaker 4: hopefully Matt Tugbot Wilkinson and now Henry Lalane Ramon Marquez.
Speaker 4: In fact, Buster went out of his way to highlight
Speaker 4: Ramone Marquez. I would say that if the Giants had
Speaker 4: to sort of power rank all the guys they got,
Speaker 4: I think the one they're most high on is the
Speaker 4: guy they got from the Phillies, Ramone Marquez.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and he has inserted himself as the highest prospect
Speaker 5: now in the Giant system from all the pieces that
Speaker 5: we saw get moved yesterday. That's a guy that a
Speaker 5: lot of Philly fans were upset about trading for Luisa
Speaker 5: Rise And when the other fan base is upset about
Speaker 5: the trade, Jui and the prospect you gave up.
Speaker 2: Usually that makes me feel a little bit better about
Speaker 2: the trade.
Speaker 4: Red Sox fans were in their feelings about Meyer, Marcelo Meyer.
Speaker 4: Phillies fans were in their feelings about Romo Marquez in fact,
Speaker 4: so he's Buster. Buster kind of went out of his
Speaker 4: way too. He was kind of like almost like the beat,
Speaker 4: whereas none of you have asked. So I'm going to
Speaker 4: go ahead and mention Phillies right hander prospect Ramone Marquez.
Speaker 3: You know, I'd like to specifically highlight a guy, you know,
Speaker 3: Ramone Marquez. He was one that our scouts had flagged
Speaker 3: early on in this process and a guy that we
Speaker 3: weren't sure we were going to have access to. So
Speaker 3: somebody that were extremely excited about to add to the
Speaker 3: system and feel like he's a starting pitcher that's going
Speaker 3: to slot up in the top of our system going forward.
Speaker 3: So you know, a guy like that, I think he's
Speaker 3: going to probably carry a little bit more weight than
Speaker 3: a few few other pictures that might be a tier
Speaker 3: or two down below that.
Speaker 4: Okay, Buster picking out his favorite kid. All right, I
Speaker 4: love all you, I love all my children, but I
Speaker 4: love Ramone the most.
Speaker 5: Yeah, give me some of the Raizor Ramon and he's
Speaker 5: already slotted in as the number two pitching prospect behind Jackson.
Speaker 2: Floor in the Giants organization.
Speaker 4: Right now, you're telling me that in the last month,
Speaker 4: the Giants have remade their pitching prospect pipeline and they
Speaker 4: the top two guys weren't on the team. Weren't in
Speaker 4: the organization six weeks ago.
Speaker 2: No, they were not.
Speaker 5: I'd say probably four of the six top pitching prospects
Speaker 5: in the organization might have not been on the roster.
Speaker 4: To your career in Milana and Miguel Mendez Andres. By
Speaker 4: the way, we need to talk about a couple of
Speaker 4: cultural things here. One, how do we feel about Robbie
Speaker 4: Reyes a padre? Are we feeling any Are we feeling anything?
Speaker 4: These interdivision trades are unusual. Shout out Charlie Culberson.
Speaker 2: To the Rockies. Uh, you know, I know right well,
Speaker 2: I got you on that one.
Speaker 4: You know, Shout out Candy Maldonado from the Dodgers, or
Speaker 4: Alex Travino, who is the catcher for the Dodgers.
Speaker 2: Anyway, I asked before the first things.
Speaker 4: I asked my kid, because he continues to be my
Speaker 4: update guy because he's on his phone all the freaking time. Dad,
Speaker 4: you know Robbi Raisa Padre. I'm like, no, I didn't know,
Speaker 4: but you're telling me. I said, are there any revenge matches?
Speaker 4: They have one series left with the Padres September eleven,
Speaker 4: twelve thirteen. Here the same weekend the forty nine Ers. No,
Speaker 4: the Niners played that Thursday against the Rams. When we're
Speaker 4: digesting the big win over the Rams, Robbie Ray will
Speaker 4: be on the hill.
Speaker 5: I'm guessing we're gonna talk a lot more about the
Speaker 5: Rams and the forty nine Ers than a Robbie Ray
Speaker 5: revenge game, because maybe it'll be a spoiler game for
Speaker 5: the San Francisco Giants. But the Giants are seventeen games
Speaker 5: under five hundred. Those games against the Padres are gonna
Speaker 5: be meaningless to close out the season. So no, I
Speaker 5: don't care about trading and expiring contract to the San
Speaker 5: Diego Padres. Robbie Ray is gonna walk away this offseason,
Speaker 5: and the Giants got two prospects in return. Another seventeen
Speaker 5: year old international shortstop who I saw a stat yesterday
Speaker 5: has more walks than strikeouts and rookie ball this year
Speaker 5: seventeen year old Joni al Hernandez bro. They got four
Speaker 5: teenage up the middle guys from the International Pool that
Speaker 5: are considered lights out again teenagers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, still using clearasil. We're gonna call it the American
Speaker 2: band Stand group.
Speaker 4: Is that too dated? American band Stand? Remember American Bandstand.
Speaker 4: It's a teen dance TV show back in the seventies,
Speaker 4: actually sixties and seventies. Yeah, the Beach Boys would show up,
Speaker 4: and ladies and gentlemen the Beach Boys, and they'd.
Speaker 2: Be playing surfer so far and all the teenagers doing
Speaker 2: the thing.
Speaker 4: It lasted all the way into the early eighties and
Speaker 4: Mike the Madonna showed up on American bands.
Speaker 2: I can give you kind of more of like a
Speaker 2: soul train.
Speaker 4: Soul Train was the African American VERSEI I'm gonna go
Speaker 4: ahead and racially profiled straight up.
Speaker 2: It's called train, but there was no Latino. There was
Speaker 2: a few Latinos.
Speaker 4: It's soul Train was almost exclusively African American, and American
Speaker 4: Bandstand would be more multicultural, but primarily Caucasian.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go ahead and talk about the racial divide.
Speaker 4: I understand this piece, so let's be honest now, continue
Speaker 4: to racially profile Soul Train a little cooler.
Speaker 6: You call that.
Speaker 2: God forbid a white boy, get a little bit of motion.
Speaker 5: Shout out, George Kittle, Ricky Pearson, Ricky Oh, they said
Speaker 5: that about rock Party Actually in the Duggy anyway.
Speaker 4: The teenagers I'm talking about, seventeen year old Joniel Hernandez,
Speaker 4: Joshua or Gonzalez is what eighteen nineteen Luis Hernandez eighteen
Speaker 4: nineteen seventeen making that throw from freaking Turkey Mike's did
Speaker 4: you see the play he made.
Speaker 2: When he's playing third back. He was in Turkey, Mike,
Speaker 2: Ronny made that throw.
Speaker 5: You're absolutely right getting the big heater, the big filthy dude.
Speaker 2: That was a phenomenal play.
Speaker 5: Effortlessly Again, he's seventeen, Johnny Rganzalez and Johnny Love as well,
Speaker 5: who's now up in double Way.
Speaker 2: Actually still on Higa Eugene right now. He's nineteen years old.
Speaker 5: So these are a lot of young prospects that are
Speaker 5: at the top of the.
Speaker 2: Giants farm rankings right now. Just quick check of the cash.
Speaker 4: We gotta get one more cut in here, but the
Speaker 4: not trading logan web, there's still I saw a couple
Speaker 4: of texts and tweets, and I still would have traded.
Speaker 4: One guy said in their argus logical argument was if
Speaker 4: indeed the Giants are pointing towards twenty twenty eight and
Speaker 4: twenty twenty nine, that's more reason to trade Logan Web.
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, that's an interesting take. I got you.
Speaker 4: Now, We're not ruling out twenty seven. First of all,
Speaker 4: is there going to be baseball in twenty seven?
Speaker 2: Lockout?
Speaker 4: But it's an interesting take that if you only have
Speaker 4: Web for two more years and you're pointing towards twenty
Speaker 4: eight and twenty nine, why wouldn't you trade him? The
Speaker 4: other angle would be to keep him around because he's
Speaker 4: really freaking good.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I'd also say, before I play this cut
Speaker 5: real quick, you know who else is also going to
Speaker 5: be here in twenty eight twenty nine. Raphael Devers, Willie Adomis,
Speaker 5: Matt Chatman contracts are still around. Yeah, there's a possibility
Speaker 5: they get moved this offseason or maybe in the foreseeable future.
Speaker 5: But if Bus or Posey, according to this cut, thinks
Speaker 5: that this team can compete in the next couple of years,
Speaker 5: you're gonna need a guy like Logan Web.
Speaker 2: Leading this rotation. Here's Posey on not trading Logan web.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean I don't think it's out of the realm
Speaker 3: with possibilities at all to think that we can be
Speaker 3: in contention. And Webby's a guy who's been around for
Speaker 3: a long time, he's a pros pro. Had a great
Speaker 3: conversation with him a couple of weeks ago and was
Speaker 3: just really enthused to see his enthusiasm about where he
Speaker 3: is at this point in his career and his understanding
Speaker 3: I think of of what it's going to take as
Speaker 3: he's starting to rack up the years and the innings
Speaker 3: to continue to be pitching it an elite level, And
Speaker 3: was was just really encouraging just to hear I think
Speaker 3: how excited he was about the way his body was feeling.
Speaker 3: Feel like he had not to speak for him, but
Speaker 3: you know, making some changes with's the way he's doing
Speaker 3: some of his work, and just felt like his body
Speaker 3: was in a really good place.
Speaker 2: And he's he's a guy.
Speaker 3: That I think we all see as somebody that can
Speaker 3: can mentor the next wave of pitchers that come through
Speaker 3: San Francisco. And yes, I do think that, you know,
Speaker 3: we we feel like there's still a chance as bad
Speaker 3: as this year has been this year, that we can
Speaker 3: be a team that can be in contingent contention.
Speaker 2: Okay, very very interesting stuff.
Speaker 4: And by the way, Tony Vattello went out of his
Speaker 4: way to say Logan web performed like a leader last
Speaker 4: night in Texas heid there was a day of pure
Speaker 4: chaos and Webby calmed everyone down with six shuddy.
Speaker 5: You know what Logan Webb did yesterday? He tasted like
Speaker 5: some waffle fries from Chick fil A.
Speaker 2: Pretty damn good.
Speaker 6: There you go.
Speaker 4: All right, Well, listen, Kype after a win, Kipe after
Speaker 4: a trade deadline that reshaped the future of the Giants.
Speaker 7: Next on the Sports Leader KNBR Sports Leader, there's no
Speaker 7: question we've got the best in the boot. That's why
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Speaker 2: Time for murphin Marcus catch up with Kite.
Speaker 1: On KNBR one oh four, five am and.
Speaker 4: Six oh yeah, what a day in Giants history. At
Speaker 4: various times through the years, me and Dwayne have talked
Speaker 4: and Kipe seg Murph.
Speaker 2: I know you want to play the kid. You want
Speaker 2: kids Murby. Hey, they did it.
Speaker 4: They traded for a slew of prospects and we'll get
Speaker 4: Dwayne's take on it.
Speaker 2: Play the Kids, h for Sure.
Speaker 4: Giants twenty twenty six, Trade Lead nine gone, Elliot Ramos
Speaker 4: to the Yankees, Luis Rise to the Phillies, Robbie Raid
Speaker 4: to the Padres, Eric Miller to the Reds, Caleb Killian gone,
Speaker 4: Tyler Mally gone, income, a ton of prospects, including Marcello Meyer,
Speaker 4: Ramon Marquez a pitcher, Henry Lallani a pitcher, Jeff Kent's son.
Speaker 4: So many things to talk about, Kype, we got a
Speaker 4: million things to get to.
Speaker 2: Good morning, How are you hey, morning, Kipe?
Speaker 6: Yeah? What it was kind of a different day yesterday,
Speaker 6: wasn't it, you know, not a day that any of
Speaker 6: us are used to. I mean, look, last year, I
Speaker 6: get it, it was a seller's year. But over the
Speaker 6: years we've been used to watching Brian Sabian and and
Speaker 6: that group just be buyers buyers almost every year, and
Speaker 6: you kind of get used to that because if you're
Speaker 6: a buyer, that means you're having a good year. And
Speaker 6: of course we know what type of year it's been
Speaker 6: this year and in even the last couple of years,
Speaker 6: but this year when sideways so fast that there's no
Speaker 6: way to catch up. And if you can't put together
Speaker 6: a winning streak like the Red Sox did, then you're
Speaker 6: not gonna You're not gonna be in the thing. And
Speaker 6: I'm still amazed at how they did that. But anyway,
Speaker 6: so you know this, when you don't play well and
Speaker 6: you have a record like they do, you kind of
Speaker 6: have to expect us, especially if you've got some people
Speaker 6: that are leaving after the season is over, and they did. No,
Speaker 6: the unexpected are the guys that you have under control,
Speaker 6: like Romoson Miller. Uh, that's probably a little bit more unexpected,
Speaker 6: But I get it. Once you get on a roll
Speaker 6: and you start acquiring prospects and you start looking into
Speaker 6: the future, it's probably a good time to start pulling
Speaker 6: the trigger. And pull the trigger they did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I liked all of it.
Speaker 4: I mean, I really just feel like, you know, what
Speaker 4: we've seen the last five years, including this year, just
Speaker 4: called for a new change. And you know, we don't know,
Speaker 4: as Buster himself said, until they do it on a
Speaker 4: big league field.
Speaker 2: You're dreaming.
Speaker 4: But you certainly have a lot of lottery tickets now
Speaker 4: to cash in. Was there any one of them that
Speaker 4: raised your eyebrows the most of all the trades that
Speaker 4: went down. What one kind of caught your eye the most.
Speaker 6: Probably the infielder from the Red Sox Mayor just because
Speaker 6: of his his stock. I mean, you know, guys, young
Speaker 6: guys are not going to all come out of the
Speaker 6: gate and be like Ronald of Junior Junior was. I mean,
Speaker 6: that doesn't always happen, and it hasn't happened with this kid.
Speaker 6: And I know he's getting up now, but I can't
Speaker 6: wait to see him in a Giant's uniform. And I
Speaker 6: hope when he's well, they put him right at second base,
Speaker 6: put him out there. There's a spot open right there.
Speaker 6: So you know, and if you listen to what the
Speaker 6: so called experts are out there, and there's a ton
Speaker 6: of them on TV and you know, on Exit radio,
Speaker 6: and they all liked what happened yesterday for the Giants,
Speaker 6: and a lot of them really liked this kid there,
Speaker 6: so and you know, getting Canaden kids is fun. And
Speaker 6: then I looked at his numbers and I thought, well,
Speaker 6: they didn't get him for fun. His numbers are pretty
Speaker 6: damn good. And then you know, you have to laugh
Speaker 6: because now you've got a bonds and a kent in
Speaker 6: the organization.
Speaker 2: Crazy right, And then the other one I liked was.
Speaker 6: The kids from Cuba the short stuff seventeen years old?
Speaker 6: Is it Janelle or Janelle Hernandez? Bring him on? Maybe
Speaker 6: you guys are stacked at that position. And I mean
Speaker 6: they got four or five right now that are all
Speaker 6: supposed to be really good. Well, add another kid to
Speaker 6: the less let's see what you can do. So hey,
Speaker 6: I mean, broadcast team isn't going to be as much
Speaker 6: fun the rest of this year because you lost some
Speaker 6: of the people that made the broadcast fun. But I
Speaker 6: do think our fans will still him out. They've been
Speaker 6: great fans all year, and I do think they'd get
Speaker 6: this too.
Speaker 5: Kip, you mentioned two of the controllable contracts that the
Speaker 5: Giants shred away, one being Eric Miller and the trade
Speaker 5: with the Red Sox for Marcelo Meyer. Also Elliot rams
Speaker 5: being shipped out to the Yankees for Kaid And can't
Speaker 5: you just mentioned in Henry Lalaune, one of the Yankees'
Speaker 5: top pitching prospects. What do you think it says about
Speaker 5: this organization, especially in the Elliot Ramas trade, that they
Speaker 5: would be willing to give up a home grown bat
Speaker 5: like elliot Ramos do you think they have more confident
Speaker 5: overall with the offense at the big league level and
Speaker 5: throughout the minor league system. They're willing to part what
Speaker 5: they team controllable bat like this to go out and
Speaker 5: get one of the betting pitching prospects in all of baseball.
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, I think, Marcus, you have to look
Speaker 6: what are we getting in return? And all those things
Speaker 6: you said about Elliott Ramos and all the wonderful things
Speaker 6: people say about them, they're all true. But if this
Speaker 6: year is going to be the way it is, why
Speaker 6: not get a couple of prospects. You have people that
Speaker 6: you want to see if they can play or not,
Speaker 6: like Grant McCrae. You know, Gilbert is still out there.
Speaker 6: I mean, we got some guys coming off the IL
Speaker 6: and they're not going to play. If Ramos is out there,
Speaker 6: they know what Ramos can do. So give these kids
Speaker 6: a shot and then get some people in return.
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, last night's lineup was crazy.
Speaker 4: Nate Furman out there, they got they got any Alex
Speaker 4: Cobb trade. Shout out Farhan, that was an Alex Cobb
Speaker 4: trade pickup. Grant McCray was out there last night. So
Speaker 4: I actually to be honest, I was intrigued to watch
Speaker 4: I know, maybe like, oh, I wanted to see what
Speaker 4: McCray did. I wanted to see what Furman did, you
Speaker 4: know type you know, I'm in Ray Reaver, San Martin,
Speaker 4: you know, bring him on, I want.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I wanted to see what John Lee could do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, enjoyed that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he hits him in bunches, and you know, and
Speaker 6: web was great. Uh. And I think we're starting to
Speaker 6: see who your catcher is going to be for a while.
Speaker 6: Maybe not every day this year, but you're looking down
Speaker 6: the road. I think they got a good one in Suicide.
Speaker 5: Kuype last night with the Giants making all those moves,
Speaker 5: treading away six guys from active roster. They actually played
Speaker 5: a man down last night. Talk to us about some
Speaker 5: of the challenges that maybe pop up now, not only
Speaker 5: as a player being uncertain if you're gonna get traded
Speaker 5: before the deadline, but how much more difficult it is
Speaker 5: for Tony Vitello and his staff to put together a
Speaker 5: line for the last night's game when there's so much
Speaker 5: uncertainty leading them to the deadline.
Speaker 6: Well, because you don't remember when rosters were twenty five,
Speaker 6: I mean, they were a twenty five man roster for
Speaker 6: a long long time and then just recently they've jumped
Speaker 6: it up a couple. So you know, it's not that
Speaker 6: tough for a manager. I mean, unless you get involved
Speaker 6: in an extrating game and you know, you start looking
Speaker 6: down the bench and maybe you can't pinch it when
Speaker 6: you should. You know, maybe if you do pinch hit,
Speaker 6: you're an infielders short of where to put them. Uh.
Speaker 6: But bottom line is is after you trade that many people,
Speaker 6: I think any manager is going to be you know,
Speaker 6: they're going to have a long, long leash as to
Speaker 6: what he can do or can't do. But I don't
Speaker 6: think it was that big of a deal.
Speaker 4: Logan Webb with a great performance last night to calm
Speaker 4: everything down. Tony Tellis said, a pure chaos. He threw
Speaker 4: six shutout Giants get the win five to one. Talking
Speaker 4: to Kype, Giants do go back at it tonight. Interestingly enough,
Speaker 4: Blade Tidwell scheduled to start part of this whole makeover
Speaker 4: that we're seeing, but Cap I wanted to do one
Speaker 4: thing that was kind of fun here. I know you
Speaker 4: are an ardent listener to the Murf and Marcus Show
Speaker 4: and we appreciate you. Did you hear Jeff Kent on
Speaker 4: with us last week?
Speaker 6: God? How did I miss that? Well?
Speaker 2: Great?
Speaker 4: So do you mind if we play a little he
Speaker 4: We actually asked him about Caden Kent, not knowing at
Speaker 4: all that Cayden Kent was gonna get traded to the Giants.
Speaker 4: We were just having a nice conversation with him. I
Speaker 4: looked up his son's numbers. I said, hey, your kid's
Speaker 4: putting up decent numbers in high A. Do I want
Speaker 4: to play this for you because you'll get a kick
Speaker 4: in just some classic Jeff Kent. This is Jeff Kent's
Speaker 4: analysis of his own son on our show last week.
Speaker 2: Take a listen.
Speaker 8: I've beat him up enough where he is. His power
Speaker 8: numbers are are okay, he's not big power numbers, but
Speaker 8: his strikeap, the walk ratio is okay for the minor league.
Speaker 8: But you look at a lot of kids in the
Speaker 8: minor leagues and they're hitting two forty going to the
Speaker 8: big leagues. I told Kayden, if he goes kids two forty,
Speaker 8: I'm gonna fill him. He's got to hit. He's got
Speaker 8: to stay in that three hundred range. At one time
Speaker 8: he was hitting three point fifty. Another time he was
Speaker 8: hitting two eighty so, and I want him to move
Speaker 8: the ball around the field drive in runs. He was
Speaker 8: hitting leadoffs and driving in a bunch of runs, and
Speaker 8: he's doing a good job of doing that. I still
Speaker 8: don't know what kind of hitter he's gonna be. He's
Speaker 8: not gonna be a big power guy.
Speaker 6: The kids.
Speaker 8: The kid loves the game. And as I said in
Speaker 8: my feet, I'm I'm he loves the game more than
Speaker 8: I did at his age. And that's scary. But he's
Speaker 8: doing a good job. And I'm proud that I get
Speaker 8: to stand back and watch a kid work and uh
Speaker 8: and get to throw cents and every now and then too.
Speaker 2: What do you think of that?
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, if it if you just said who
Speaker 6: is this and I didn't know, I mean, you know
Speaker 6: right away that it was Jeff Kent and uh, and
Speaker 6: you know we always described Kent when he was a player.
Speaker 6: Is you know the you're driving down I five to
Speaker 6: LA and you can stop by the highway patrol and
Speaker 6: that top comes to your window and he's got the
Speaker 6: mirrored glasses. That's him. Now. Now, now figure a couple
Speaker 6: of boys being raised by that guy. Uh, so I
Speaker 6: don't think there's any doubt that this kid is tough
Speaker 6: and uh and his dad made him tough, but uh,
Speaker 6: but it the fact that he loves the game as
Speaker 6: much as he does and he comes from good stock.
Speaker 6: You might see that kid in the big leagues, and
Speaker 6: then I don't think that would surprise anybody. Kipe.
Speaker 5: With the addition of Caden King, Joni l Hernandez, who
Speaker 5: you brought up, and Marcelo Meyer, that now makes a
Speaker 5: pretty loaded pharm system of middle infielders. You look at
Speaker 5: Josh Wargenzalez, Loui Hernandez, Johnny Lolevell, all teenagers. Gavin Keeling
Speaker 5: was a first round pick a couple of years ago
Speaker 5: out of Tennessee. Is it a problem to have too
Speaker 5: many infielders or do you think the versatility is there
Speaker 5: for maybe these guys that climb the rankings at other
Speaker 5: positions throughout the organization.
Speaker 6: Hey, listen, I don't think it's that long ago. I
Speaker 6: told this story. We going to Cleveland two years ago
Speaker 6: and Stephen Vote comes over, because you know, he knows
Speaker 6: everybody to dugout, And as he was walking away, he
Speaker 6: turned around and he looked at I think Hobby and
Speaker 6: I were sitting there and he said, guys, we're start
Speaker 6: eating seven short steps today. And you know, we were like, hey,
Speaker 6: good one order of good job. Way to go. And
Speaker 6: then we turned around and we went upstairs and looked
Speaker 6: even out of the nine guys that played short at
Speaker 6: some point. So if that's an example of it, If
Speaker 6: you can play short, it's likely you can move around
Speaker 6: and play just about anywhere. And it is such a
Speaker 6: valued position that if you've got if you've got a
Speaker 6: great one playing at the big league level, another backup
Speaker 6: one wouldn't be a bad idea, and any other ones
Speaker 6: that you have will bring you some really good players
Speaker 6: in return if you decide to trade him. And maybe
Speaker 6: that's what they do.
Speaker 4: Giants, maybe starting seven short stops in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 4: Who does It's pretty fun something now, I mean, listen,
Speaker 4: it's good enough.
Speaker 2: For Steven Vote.
Speaker 4: And speaking of which, Kype, when we talk about this
Speaker 4: trade deadline, Marcus and I were saying this earlier in
Speaker 4: the show, we have to throw Patrick Bailey in there too.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's a major piece that they traded earlier
Speaker 4: this year.
Speaker 2: Think about that. Now they've traded.
Speaker 4: Bailey, Ramos, Eric Miller Robbie Ray Luis Rise. So this
Speaker 4: guy Buster, you know, he's getting knocked by so many
Speaker 4: fans because the lost record is bad. And that's fair, right,
Speaker 4: the what you are, what your record says you are.
Speaker 4: But man oh man man kive, I don't ever remember,
Speaker 4: and you mentioned Sabian buying, but even that, I don't
Speaker 4: remember any GM being this active.
Speaker 2: Ever.
Speaker 6: The last time it was this active was when Brian
Speaker 6: made the big trade that brought Kent over in three
Speaker 6: or four other guys, and that was for Matt Williams
Speaker 6: and maybe somebody else. I think that you know there
Speaker 6: was I think Brian made one in ninety seven with
Speaker 6: the White Sox. Think he got her Hernandez was one
Speaker 6: of the relievers, and Danny Darwin might have been in
Speaker 6: that deal. And there was a starter, a left Tanny starter.
Speaker 6: But as far as number of people traded, I don't
Speaker 6: believe this has ever happened in the organization. You may
Speaker 6: have gotten some volume back, but this is this is
Speaker 6: really something. So speaking of Patrick Bailey, did you guys
Speaker 6: cover the story with the Diamondbacks and the Guardians where
Speaker 6: the Williams pitcher from Cleveland had a no hitter.
Speaker 4: We didn't cover because we were at Santa Clara yesterday
Speaker 4: doing all Niners, but we definitely saw it over the weekend.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it was a couple of days ago
Speaker 6: when Tim Tawa tried to bunt. Yeah. Yeah, it was
Speaker 6: great because now the managers come out of their face
Speaker 6: to face and teams out there. But guests who broke
Speaker 6: up the scrum old pat ground screw, not the ground screw.
Speaker 6: They couldn't put the tarp on the field because it
Speaker 6: was raining so hard that uh that the heads ground
Speaker 6: crew guy broke everybody up. But actually Patrick Bailey waited
Speaker 6: for twa because he butted the ball foul and h
Speaker 6: and approached him as soon as he got the home
Speaker 6: plate and he looked at him and you could read
Speaker 6: his lips. He said, what the heck are you? Tweets
Speaker 6: And it's a great baseball discussion, it really is. It
Speaker 6: was a two to nothing score. I think think Guy's
Speaker 6: got a wreck to bud ooh part of his game.
Speaker 6: Ooh gotcha because I budded. I don't know if I'd
Speaker 6: have done it there, especially if somebody out of the
Speaker 6: mind was angry enough to throw it at you. But anyway,
Speaker 6: I just thought it was interested, and Patrick Bailey was
Speaker 6: in the middle of it, and I think he actually
Speaker 6: hadn't win that game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what's interesting, And I'll just throw this
Speaker 4: out there. I don't know what war is wins above replacement.
Speaker 4: The stack came around fifteen years ago. People start throwing
Speaker 4: it at me. I don't know, but you use it
Speaker 4: in an argument when it helps you. Here's an interesting
Speaker 4: stat because it includes defense. Daniel Sussak's war for twenty
Speaker 4: twenty six is actually higher than Patrick Bailey's.
Speaker 2: That crazy zero point eight to zero point three.
Speaker 6: I not obviously not aware of that, and I am
Speaker 6: surprised by that, but I'll stand by what I said.
Speaker 6: This kid's going to be really really good. Su Sac
Speaker 6: Sue Sack's gonna be really really good good.
Speaker 9: I like that.
Speaker 4: I like that they didn't trade him, they kept him. Oh, man,
Speaker 4: kve what a day, man, What a crazy, crazy, crazy day.
Speaker 4: And we've been to tell you what easy show for us.
Speaker 9: Man.
Speaker 4: People are less stacked up calling in and texting in,
Speaker 4: so we got a lot to get to. So enjoy
Speaker 4: your Tuesday night baseball Giants, Rangers. And see this kid
Speaker 4: Blade Tidwell, see what he does and uh and then
Speaker 4: we'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 6: And by the way, m yes, they will compete next year. Okay.
Speaker 2: I told you I wasn't gonna bitch, and I'm not.
Speaker 2: And only am I not bitching. I'm actually pretty excited.
Speaker 6: They will compete next year for a wildcard spot.
Speaker 2: Well, Kyve, we want baseball next year, no matter what.
Speaker 6: I forgot about that, right, but tell me there's going
Speaker 6: to be baseball next year, now, ticked off?
Speaker 2: Come on, man, your buddy, Marvin Miller.
Speaker 6: The thing in LA didn't help the sole situation.
Speaker 2: No it didn't. It's going to affect that, You're right, affect.
Speaker 6: It those you know, those middle market teams. You know
Speaker 6: they they were dug in and I think they dug
Speaker 6: in a little deeper. Now we'll see what happens. It
Speaker 6: makes me sick to think something could happen, but we've
Speaker 6: seen it before.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's not worry about Le's just try to enjoy blade.
Speaker 4: Ted well tonight, So thanks, Kyle, be good next week.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I actually can't characterize it with how you want. I
Speaker 3: wouldn't necessarily say a rebuild. I mean, obviously we move
Speaker 3: some some six major league players off of our roster today.
Speaker 3: I guess the messages we're not satisfied with the way
Speaker 3: that we've played this year in the last few years,
Speaker 3: and we're trying everything we can to to continue to
Speaker 3: build a product that we can all be, you know,
Speaker 3: excited to come and watch. And that was really the
Speaker 3: goal and this is can we even if we have
Speaker 3: to subtract a little bit, now, can we potentially add
Speaker 3: some players that we think are are going to be
Speaker 3: excited about and hopefully wear a Giants uniform for a
Speaker 3: long time.
Speaker 4: There it is buster posey with the topic of the
Speaker 4: day and the topic of the really the month, because
Speaker 4: the Giants with a full makeover.
Speaker 2: No, we can't call it a fire.
Speaker 4: Sale because they didn't trade Logan Web, Jung Huli or
Speaker 4: any of the big three. Dev's a Dominsion Chapman. But
Speaker 4: we're calling it a firesal. Perhaps drop the he some
Speaker 4: saying a garage sale, some saying a makeover where you
Speaker 4: keep two walls and pay less in permit fees. But
Speaker 4: something changed with the Giants yesterday. It's all we've been
Speaker 4: talking about. At eight oh eight Cambyr's the phone number.
Speaker 4: It's been a caller's day.
Speaker 2: Stack them up.
Speaker 4: Eight oh eight Camby our old school call day, Golden
Speaker 4: State Lumber and showIn text line four and five eight
Speaker 4: oh eight, five six two seven. Of course you are
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Speaker 4: a Cumulus Media station. Me Marcus, I'm in, I've wanted
Speaker 4: this for a long time, dating back to the twenty
Speaker 4: seventeen eighteen Samarja Cuato Longoria days when they were trying
Speaker 4: to keep hope alive and just kind of spinning their wheels.
Speaker 4: And now here we are again, and they in the
Speaker 4: devers of Damas Chapman days. And no, they didn't move
Speaker 4: any of those guys, But man, oh man, did they
Speaker 4: stack the farm system two years in a row now,
Speaker 4: and with a good draft pick last or two first
Speaker 4: round draft picks just last month. Giants right now are
Speaker 4: looking way more promising for twenty twenty eight, twenty nine,
Speaker 4: twenty thirty than they have at any point in the
Speaker 4: twenty twenties.
Speaker 2: For sure. Now the question to you, guys is is
Speaker 2: that too long to wait?
Speaker 4: Are you guys thinking it's just all hopes and dreams
Speaker 4: and lottery tickets and you'd rather see Shohey Otani and
Speaker 4: Freddie Freeman in orange and black? But man Oman between
Speaker 4: the Ramon Marquez acquisition from the Phillies, which Buster Posey
Speaker 4: went out of.
Speaker 2: His way to highlight, Henry L.
Speaker 4: Lane of the Yankees and Miguel Mendez of the Padres,
Speaker 4: all acquired in the Robbie Ray Elliott Ramos and Luisa
Speaker 4: Ris trades. There are those in the industry saying the
Speaker 4: Giants got three legitimate starting position prospects to go with
Speaker 4: Jackson Flora and Carson Bowman and Wacht and tug Boat Wilkinson.
Speaker 4: Don't forget Pat Bailey as part of this trade deadline
Speaker 4: stuff too.
Speaker 2: That happened in May. So listen.
Speaker 4: One texter said, the only reason you'd be trading away
Speaker 4: for prospects is if you did a terrible job building
Speaker 4: this year's team. All true, but believe me, we've been
Speaker 4: saying that all year. Yeah, Marcus, give me a laugh
Speaker 4: track here. We've been saying it all year. Just ask
Speaker 4: the Giants, right. So, I mean, nobody's excusing the twenty
Speaker 4: twenty sixteen but we are saying, when you're giving chicken blank,
Speaker 4: try to make chicken salad, give me some chicken salad.
Speaker 4: I feel like there's at least the makings for a
Speaker 4: chicken salad.
Speaker 5: And Murph, circling back to your opening statement, it's not
Speaker 5: just a topic of today, the topic of the last
Speaker 5: couple of weeks. It feels like this has been a
Speaker 5: topic all season long for the Giants, since opening night.
Speaker 2: And I know immediately it wasn't that bad.
Speaker 5: But this has been a bad baseball team with a
Speaker 5: bad bullten and not that great of a rotation. So
Speaker 5: you can call this a rebuild, a retool, you can
Speaker 5: call it whatever the hell you want. I call it
Speaker 5: actually doing something. I call it being active at this
Speaker 5: trade deadline, because it was one of our biggest complaints
Speaker 5: about the prior regime, about holding onto guys like Blake Snell,
Speaker 5: like Carlos Rodin pieces that you knew were walking away
Speaker 5: on expiring contracts and getting absolutely nothing for a return.
Speaker 5: That's why we've been talking about the topic of trading
Speaker 5: away Luisa Rice as much as we all love them,
Speaker 5: treading away Robbie Ray, who might have been maybe one
Speaker 5: of four Hunt's best moves, Flitcher flipping Mitch Hanneger to
Speaker 5: get Robby Ray, and now flipping him for a couple
Speaker 5: of prospects from the Padre system for a rental. Then
Speaker 5: you go on even beyond the rentals and moving on
Speaker 5: from a guy like Tyler Mallley, treadingway Elliott Ramos and
Speaker 5: getting two top fifteen prospects from the Yankees, treading away
Speaker 5: Eric Miller, a bullpen arm for Marcelo Meyer, who might
Speaker 5: be one of the potential biggest steals of this trade deadline.
Speaker 5: This is the guy that's been widely regarded as a
Speaker 5: top fifteen, top twenty prospect in all of baseball for
Speaker 5: the last three four years. A guy that a lot
Speaker 5: of Boston Red Sox fans thought that they were gonna
Speaker 5: build the future of this franchise around, hasn't really shown
Speaker 5: it at the big league level. Is currently dealing with
Speaker 5: an injury right now. But that's one hell of a
Speaker 5: by low move for me for our left handed bullpen arm.
Speaker 5: It's a move that you need to make. And it
Speaker 5: feels like they've really replenished his farm system over the
Speaker 5: last couple of months when you look at what they've
Speaker 5: done through the trade deadline and also through the MLB.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we're in agreement here on this. I mean,
Speaker 2: this is needed to be done, and he did it,
Speaker 2: and then some man trade Elliott Ramas. You know what's
Speaker 2: interesting to mean Ramos.
Speaker 4: Ramos's departure hasn't torn up Giants fans as much as
Speaker 4: I thought.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's forever Giant.
Speaker 4: He goes back to the Bobby Evans they got him
Speaker 4: in twenty eighteen, He was the guy they brought into
Speaker 4: the dugout like Jackson Flora.
Speaker 5: You know, yeah, I mean he was the first home
Speaker 5: grown outfilled All Star since Chili Davis High School. He
Speaker 5: was the first ever right handed hitter to hit a
Speaker 5: splash hit in some COVID cove. Elliott Ramos, a guy
Speaker 5: that a lot of people labeled a bust at age
Speaker 5: twenty two, twenty three, twenty four, had a breakout season
Speaker 5: at age twenty five, turned into an All Star, and
Speaker 5: now you're able to move him for a couple of
Speaker 5: prospects just a few years later.
Speaker 4: In fact, Ramos and Casey Schmid are two examples as
Speaker 4: to why you should be hopeful that Marcello Meyer could
Speaker 4: do something. He's only twenty three years old. He's only
Speaker 4: he had two hundred and five Big League at bats.
Speaker 4: They say the glove is there. He has been injury
Speaker 4: prone Red Sox fans, but Red Sox fans were in
Speaker 4: their feelings. They were very attached to this guy. Now, again,
Speaker 4: we know not every prospect pans out. As I was
Speaker 4: just saying to my good friend Marco Luciano, although is
Speaker 4: he putting up numbers on the.
Speaker 2: Way He's hitting over three hundred the Yankees right.
Speaker 5: Now, another example of somebody who took some time right,
Speaker 5: but the Giants were not patient enough, and next thing
Speaker 5: you know, you're running out of options and making that
Speaker 5: decision to move on from a guy like Marco Luciano,
Speaker 5: just like the Red Sox are now moving on from Marcelo.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Tons of reaction on the Golden State lumber and showroom
Speaker 4: text line and calls eight away came back.
Speaker 2: If you guys want to check in? Five one no,
Speaker 2: said Brian and Marcus. Let him call me Brian. Hey,
Speaker 2: what's Brian and Bobby?
Speaker 4: I am so stoked about these giants move. It's about time.
Speaker 4: Oh this is Niner head Rick. Now, this farm system
Speaker 4: is going to get strong, and that's how they should
Speaker 4: be building this thing, especially in the pitching department.
Speaker 2: Great job, buster, Zach and company. This Niner Headrick six
Speaker 2: five us is.
Speaker 4: All these trades are good, but let's hope the Giants
Speaker 4: are able to develop these prospects.
Speaker 2: It is key, that is the one thing, the key.
Speaker 2: Four one four.
Speaker 4: Rado says Eric Miller couldn't throw strike one to save
Speaker 4: his life.
Speaker 2: I've got trouble with strike two and strike three.
Speaker 4: Sometimes nine one six says I hear you, Murph, but
Speaker 4: how many prospects that we've been talking about for years now? Luciano,
Speaker 4: wizen Hunt, Matos, the list, the list goes on a rise,
Speaker 4: wanted to stay, extend him well nine six and the
Speaker 4: first of all, Rid's gonna hit the market.
Speaker 2: Bro, He's gonna hit the market. I don't think, Luisa Rise.
Speaker 6: Nine.
Speaker 4: To your point about the Luciano's, the wizen Hunts and
Speaker 4: the Matos is, first of all, wizzen Hunts still has
Speaker 4: hope and a chance to be good.
Speaker 2: And second of all, that's why you flood the zone
Speaker 2: with prospects.
Speaker 4: Yes, some are not going to work out, but if
Speaker 4: you flood the zone, some are simply the law of
Speaker 4: averages here Uhi three says this is more of a
Speaker 4: storage unit, auction storage trash that someone else might want. Also,
Speaker 4: the Giants are one of the richest teams. They shouldn't
Speaker 4: be competing for wild cards. They should be competing for
Speaker 4: the division.
Speaker 2: Shout out to the TV show Storage Wars. Is that
Speaker 2: dall over there?
Speaker 6: Two?
Speaker 4: And nine says after the trade for Camilla de Val,
Speaker 4: I'm surprised the Yankees even took our call.
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, Camillo is now a Pittsburgh Piray and
Speaker 5: the Giants where we get Hajesus Rodriguez and Parks Harbor
Speaker 5: back plus more in that trade package last year. It's
Speaker 5: looking like back to back years where Buster in the
Speaker 5: front office have gotten pretty good trade returns from the
Speaker 5: Yankees four and.
Speaker 4: Five says, I'm so excited about these trades. I'll see
Speaker 4: you guys at the ballpark in twenty thirty if we're
Speaker 4: still alive.
Speaker 2: I suppose that's a cynical take there, for.
Speaker 4: Ray says, is a tribute to this year's Giants team,
Speaker 4: have a tribute of the producers at the current theater.
Speaker 2: People still remember the current theater.
Speaker 4: Eight three one says Giants fans that are pissed because
Speaker 4: they're going to suck now and it's too long to
Speaker 4: wait need to realize they've been teetering around twenty under
Speaker 4: five hundred for more than a year.
Speaker 2: You got to hope you hit on some of these
Speaker 2: young guys.
Speaker 4: In trust player development five three zero says this is
Speaker 4: the best the pharm system has been in a long time.
Speaker 4: Farhunt's inability to build the farm was his biggest failure.
Speaker 4: It's impressive what Buster has done. Seven oh seven says,
Speaker 4: does trading ramas open up left for Schmidt and Marcella
Speaker 4: Meyer can slide into second full time?
Speaker 2: That's a question.
Speaker 4: Seven oh seven says it's not a full rebuild. It's
Speaker 4: more like the Giants put up a pardon our dust
Speaker 4: sign while they remodel. Nineteen five says I think it's
Speaker 4: good the Giants management did something. I hate to see
Speaker 4: some of these people go, but we got to make
Speaker 4: something change and hopefully things will be more exciting than
Speaker 4: last year.
Speaker 2: I saw that in spring training for the first time.
Speaker 2: Sawba Sabe. He's an exciting player. I saw Basabe too.
Speaker 6: Brother.
Speaker 4: We had another nice night last night. The Sabe bro
Speaker 4: Babe Bi save doing his thing all right. We got calls, Marcus,
Speaker 4: We got calls. Todd in Fresno is first up. Todd,
Speaker 4: you're on with Murphy and Marcus.
Speaker 6: What do you think?
Speaker 10: Man?
Speaker 2: The floor is yours. Hey, what's up?
Speaker 6: Todd?
Speaker 10: Love love being lead off here.
Speaker 4: Thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 6: There's just an inability to develop.
Speaker 11: They need to start looking at and I've said this
Speaker 11: before with other guys, they need to start looking at
Speaker 11: what Tampa Bay does.
Speaker 12: Because Tampa Bay over the last ten years is one
Speaker 12: hundred games over five hundred Jeeze Giants are forty games
Speaker 12: below five hundred with one hundred and seven win season
Speaker 12: in that group.
Speaker 6: Wow. So it's great they got these prospects. But to
Speaker 6: the developments mark because Luciano?
Speaker 11: Is it because the Giants were impatient or maybe somebody
Speaker 11: was able to develop them and give them information that's
Speaker 11: going to allow him to be good?
Speaker 6: I echo Eric Burns was going off yesterday.
Speaker 11: I echo him, you got a right handed pitcher, the
Speaker 11: most common thing you could get for an elite hitter.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but I listen.
Speaker 4: I love Burns, you, but I cannot understand for the
Speaker 4: life of me why he didn't understand the simple math here.
Speaker 4: The contract was expiring and he wasn't going to re
Speaker 4: sign before testing the market.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I don't think it's about the contract.
Speaker 11: It's about are you getting elite guys? I mean this
Speaker 11: mayor guy great I pulled up his minor league says,
Speaker 11: you never had one hundred hits.
Speaker 2: In a season, Marcella Meyer, you never had a yes?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Well we talked. We we know the fact
Speaker 4: that we know his bio, but that's not who they
Speaker 4: got for the for a rise. They got Ramon Marquez.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess the question is, would you rather have
Speaker 5: nothing in return for Luisa Rice walking away this offseason?
Speaker 6: Well, I mean that's that's a good question.
Speaker 11: Or would you rather build with guys that could flat
Speaker 11: out play?
Speaker 4: Well, here's the pro here's the math problem. And I
Speaker 4: love Burns, but don't you and Todd Todd and Burnsey.
Speaker 4: He wasn't gonna re sign without testing the market, and
Speaker 4: somebody was gonna go give him more.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, you had a chance to resign him.
Speaker 7: Yeah, So you have two.
Speaker 10: Schools of thought, We're gonna buy a team or we're
Speaker 10: going to develop a team. If you look at the
Speaker 10: Dodgers farm system, there's still an last farm system when
Speaker 10: developing players, and they're still buying players.
Speaker 4: Well yeah, I mean, listen, we talked about the Dodgers.
Speaker 4: The Dodgers' economic profile versus any other team in Major
Speaker 4: League Baseball is totally different. First of all, they colonize
Speaker 4: the nation of Japan. Second of all, there is that
Speaker 4: strange bankruptcy ruling that got after them, a court thing
Speaker 4: that allows them to play with more money and flat
Speaker 4: out gigantic market. They've done a brilliant job. They've left
Speaker 4: twenty nine teams in the dust, including the Yankees, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. So now I'm forever going to
Speaker 4: disagree with you and Burnssey on the Rise one. And
Speaker 4: if yeah, I know, he's a righty. You know who
Speaker 4: else was alrighty? Matt Cain and tim Linsecomb, they were righties.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 4: Johnn Fuscho was already, Jason Schmidt was alrighty. I mean,
Speaker 4: you know, I mean that's I'm not going to denigrate
Speaker 4: a picture because he's a right now.
Speaker 5: No, And I think it just comes down to the
Speaker 5: fact that Luisa Rise was on an expiring contract, just
Speaker 5: like Robbie Ray. This is the same situation we just
Speaker 5: went through it Blake SNeW and Carlos Rodon and many
Speaker 5: others who walked away with absolutely nothing in return. The
Speaker 5: Giants still have the possibility if they want to shell
Speaker 5: at some money this offseason and maybe give out a
Speaker 5: pitch to bring Louise Rise back, but they were not
Speaker 5: going to work out a contract extension this season, which
Speaker 5: is why you make a move when you're eighteen games
Speaker 5: under five hundred. Anyway, Todd will agree to disagreebody, Thanks
Speaker 5: for the call. We appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Bruce, and Palo Alto is next, Bruce, Good morning, all right, man.
Speaker 6: Hey guys, hey guys.
Speaker 9: I like the deals that were made, and I've seen
Speaker 9: the trade grades from a publication like the Athletic. They're
Speaker 9: all a's or a MIAs is, except for maybe the
Speaker 9: Tyler Marley trade.
Speaker 6: But so that's all good. I looked at this.
Speaker 9: If I was talking old Harry Bears, I'd call it
Speaker 9: a refresh. If need to still on, call it a rebuild.
Speaker 9: But the reason I called though, is because a relief
Speaker 9: pitcher is something, A major league relief pitcher something I
Speaker 9: was hoping they would acquire yesterday. And there were a
Speaker 9: couple of guys, Zephyr John of the Angels, who's got
Speaker 9: almost fourteen k's per nine, and Brazil Bond of the Mets,
Speaker 9: who went in deals, and yeah, it would have cost something,
Speaker 9: would probably cost one of their terrific young outfielders in
Speaker 9: the minor leagues, maybe a pitcher. But don't you think
Speaker 9: that going into next season, the buster, he's going to
Speaker 9: have to he's under the gun now between a rock
Speaker 9: and a heart. Place to bring in an established reliever,
Speaker 9: you can't count on Rodriguez coming back from a serious
Speaker 9: injury as being the guy right from the get go.
Speaker 6: What do you guys think about that?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Bruce, thanks for the call, man, appreciate because we've
Speaker 4: got to get the Inntebagul into a second now. I
Speaker 4: think you're right, certainly, but picking up one of those
Speaker 4: major league ready relievers right now would be a win move.
Speaker 4: And I think what we're learning is they ain't gonna
Speaker 4: win now. They're planning for twenty eight, twenty nine, thirty.
Speaker 4: That's the fact of the matter is. And so some
Speaker 4: of these guys they picked up, whether it's Miguel Mendez,
Speaker 4: or whether it's Anthony Molina, or whether it's you know,
Speaker 4: some of these Marty Jaiere are hoped for bullpen arms
Speaker 4: down the road. So I think picking up a major
Speaker 4: league ready reliever now would be more of a win
Speaker 4: now move. The Giants aren't looking to win now.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Bryce, or excuse me, Bruce is correct. There's no
Speaker 5: question the Giants need to address or bullpen issues next season.
Speaker 5: They're just not in a position to make an offer
Speaker 5: to add a reliever that can help them win right now. Yes,
Speaker 5: Randy Rodrigue should make his return. Jose Boutel as well.
Speaker 5: They need more help. They just could not make that
Speaker 5: type of deal. They weren't buyers, they were seld They're
Speaker 5: gonna have.
Speaker 2: To spend in the market.
Speaker 4: Will be expensive, but they're gonna have to And yeah, correct,
Speaker 4: that remains a thing for sure. All right, listen, look
Speaker 4: at the clock. We got Andy Bagley got the expert
Speaker 4: view from the press box. This guy, you know, man,
Speaker 4: he wrote a really scathing piece over the weekend about
Speaker 4: how the Giants have handled their pitching this year, calling
Speaker 4: out Vitello message and Frank Anderson, we can talk to
Speaker 4: him about that and does he think that the Giants
Speaker 4: did enough to stock their pitching prospects?
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