WEBVTT - San Francisco Giants Rebuild? Breaking Down the Deadline Deals and Prospect Haul PLUS Interview with Duane Kuiper

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to murphin markets on the Sports Leader, streaming

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually can characterize it with how you want. I

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't necessarily say it rebuild. I mean, obviously we move

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<v Speaker 3>some some six major league players off of our roster today.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess the messages we're not satisfied with the way

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<v Speaker 3>that we've played this year, in the last few years,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're trying everything we can to to continue to

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<v Speaker 3>build a product that that we can all be uh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, excited to come and watch, and that was

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<v Speaker 3>really the goal. And this is can we even if

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<v Speaker 3>we have to subtract a little bit now, can we

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<v Speaker 3>potentially add some players that we think our fans are

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<v Speaker 3>going to be excited about and hopefully wear a Giants

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<v Speaker 3>uniform for a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>Buster posey on the zoom.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're just joining us, it's all we've been talking

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<v Speaker 4>about the first hour and twenty minutes, taking a bunch

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<v Speaker 4>of calls, and I would have to say, if you're

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<v Speaker 4>just joining us. The reaction has been mostly positive. There's

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<v Speaker 4>a couple negatives saying, hey man, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 4>wait this long, or man, what are they doing? They

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<v Speaker 4>still got devers A Dominson Chapman.

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<v Speaker 2>I get it.

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<v Speaker 4>Listen, there's seventeen hunderd bro I have been agitating for

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<v Speaker 4>this for a long time to just kind of say, listen,

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<v Speaker 4>the direction of five hundred after five hundred, after five hundred,

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<v Speaker 4>after five hundred after seventeen under five hundred. Nice win

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<v Speaker 4>last night, though it recalls for something different, and now

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<v Speaker 4>there's a direction, whether it's the starting pitching prospects of

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<v Speaker 4>hopefully Matt Tugbot Wilkinson and now Henry Lalane Ramon Marquez.

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<v Speaker 4>In fact, Buster went out of his way to highlight

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<v Speaker 4>Ramone Marquez. I would say that if the Giants had

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<v Speaker 4>to sort of power rank all the guys they got,

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<v Speaker 4>I think the one they're most high on is the

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<v Speaker 4>guy they got from the Phillies, Ramone Marquez.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and he has inserted himself as the highest prospect

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<v Speaker 5>now in the Giant system from all the pieces that

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<v Speaker 5>we saw get moved yesterday. That's a guy that a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of Philly fans were upset about trading for Luisa

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<v Speaker 5>Rise And when the other fan base is upset about

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<v Speaker 5>the trade, Jui and the prospect you gave up.

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<v Speaker 2>Usually that makes me feel a little bit better about

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<v Speaker 2>the trade.

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<v Speaker 4>Red Sox fans were in their feelings about Meyer, Marcelo Meyer.

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<v Speaker 4>Phillies fans were in their feelings about Romo Marquez in fact,

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<v Speaker 4>so he's Buster. Buster kind of went out of his

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<v Speaker 4>way too. He was kind of like almost like the beat,

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<v Speaker 4>whereas none of you have asked. So I'm going to

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<v Speaker 4>go ahead and mention Phillies right hander prospect Ramone Marquez.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I'd like to specifically highlight a guy, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Ramone Marquez. He was one that our scouts had flagged

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<v Speaker 3>early on in this process and a guy that we

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<v Speaker 3>weren't sure we were going to have access to. So

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<v Speaker 3>somebody that were extremely excited about to add to the

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<v Speaker 3>system and feel like he's a starting pitcher that's going

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<v Speaker 3>to slot up in the top of our system going forward.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, a guy like that, I think he's

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<v Speaker 3>going to probably carry a little bit more weight than

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<v Speaker 3>a few few other pictures that might be a tier

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<v Speaker 3>or two down below that.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Buster picking out his favorite kid. All right, I

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<v Speaker 4>love all you, I love all my children, but I

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<v Speaker 4>love Ramone the most.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, give me some of the Raizor Ramon and he's

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<v Speaker 5>already slotted in as the number two pitching prospect behind Jackson.

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<v Speaker 2>Floor in the Giants organization.

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<v Speaker 4>Right now, you're telling me that in the last month,

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<v Speaker 4>the Giants have remade their pitching prospect pipeline and they

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<v Speaker 4>the top two guys weren't on the team. Weren't in

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<v Speaker 4>the organization six weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 2>No, they were not.

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<v Speaker 5>I'd say probably four of the six top pitching prospects

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<v Speaker 5>in the organization might have not been on the roster.

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<v Speaker 4>To your career in Milana and Miguel Mendez Andres. By

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<v Speaker 4>the way, we need to talk about a couple of

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<v Speaker 4>cultural things here. One, how do we feel about Robbie

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<v Speaker 4>Reyes a padre? Are we feeling any Are we feeling anything?

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<v Speaker 4>These interdivision trades are unusual. Shout out Charlie Culberson.

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<v Speaker 2>To the Rockies. Uh, you know, I know right well,

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<v Speaker 2>I got you on that one.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, Shout out Candy Maldonado from the Dodgers, or

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<v Speaker 4>Alex Travino, who is the catcher for the Dodgers.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, I asked before the first things.

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<v Speaker 4>I asked my kid, because he continues to be my

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<v Speaker 4>update guy because he's on his phone all the freaking time. Dad,

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<v Speaker 4>you know Robbi Raisa Padre. I'm like, no, I didn't know,

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<v Speaker 4>but you're telling me. I said, are there any revenge matches?

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<v Speaker 4>They have one series left with the Padres September eleven,

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<v Speaker 4>twelve thirteen. Here the same weekend the forty nine Ers. No,

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<v Speaker 4>the Niners played that Thursday against the Rams. When we're

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<v Speaker 4>digesting the big win over the Rams, Robbie Ray will

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<v Speaker 4>be on the hill.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm guessing we're gonna talk a lot more about the

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<v Speaker 5>Rams and the forty nine Ers than a Robbie Ray

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<v Speaker 5>revenge game, because maybe it'll be a spoiler game for

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<v Speaker 5>the San Francisco Giants. But the Giants are seventeen games

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<v Speaker 5>under five hundred. Those games against the Padres are gonna

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<v Speaker 5>be meaningless to close out the season. So no, I

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<v Speaker 5>don't care about trading and expiring contract to the San

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<v Speaker 5>Diego Padres. Robbie Ray is gonna walk away this offseason,

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<v Speaker 5>and the Giants got two prospects in return. Another seventeen

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<v Speaker 5>year old international shortstop who I saw a stat yesterday

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<v Speaker 5>has more walks than strikeouts and rookie ball this year

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<v Speaker 5>seventeen year old Joni al Hernandez bro. They got four

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<v Speaker 5>teenage up the middle guys from the International Pool that

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<v Speaker 5>are considered lights out again teenagers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, still using clearasil. We're gonna call it the American

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<v Speaker 2>band Stand group.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that too dated? American band Stand? Remember American Bandstand.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a teen dance TV show back in the seventies,

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<v Speaker 4>actually sixties and seventies. Yeah, the Beach Boys would show up,

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<v Speaker 4>and ladies and gentlemen the Beach Boys, and they'd.

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<v Speaker 2>Be playing surfer so far and all the teenagers doing

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<v Speaker 2>the thing.

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<v Speaker 4>It lasted all the way into the early eighties and

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<v Speaker 4>Mike the Madonna showed up on American bands.

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<v Speaker 2>I can give you kind of more of like a

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<v Speaker 2>soul train.

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<v Speaker 4>Soul Train was the African American VERSEI I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 4>ahead and racially profiled straight up.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called train, but there was no Latino. There was

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<v Speaker 2>a few Latinos.

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<v Speaker 4>It's soul Train was almost exclusively African American, and American

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<v Speaker 4>Bandstand would be more multicultural, but primarily Caucasian.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's go ahead and talk about the racial divide.

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<v Speaker 4>I understand this piece, so let's be honest now, continue

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<v Speaker 4>to racially profile Soul Train a little cooler.

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<v Speaker 6>You call that.

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<v Speaker 2>God forbid a white boy, get a little bit of motion.

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<v Speaker 5>Shout out, George Kittle, Ricky Pearson, Ricky Oh, they said

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<v Speaker 5>that about rock Party Actually in the Duggy anyway.

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<v Speaker 4>The teenagers I'm talking about, seventeen year old Joniel Hernandez,

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<v Speaker 4>Joshua or Gonzalez is what eighteen nineteen Luis Hernandez eighteen

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<v Speaker 4>nineteen seventeen making that throw from freaking Turkey Mike's did

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<v Speaker 4>you see the play he made.

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<v Speaker 2>When he's playing third back. He was in Turkey, Mike,

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<v Speaker 2>Ronny made that throw.

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<v Speaker 5>You're absolutely right getting the big heater, the big filthy dude.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a phenomenal play.

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<v Speaker 5>Effortlessly Again, he's seventeen, Johnny Rganzalez and Johnny Love as well,

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<v Speaker 5>who's now up in double Way.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually still on Higa Eugene right now. He's nineteen years old.

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<v Speaker 5>So these are a lot of young prospects that are

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<v Speaker 5>at the top of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Giants farm rankings right now. Just quick check of the cash.

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<v Speaker 4>We gotta get one more cut in here, but the

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<v Speaker 4>not trading logan web, there's still I saw a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of texts and tweets, and I still would have traded.

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<v Speaker 4>One guy said in their argus logical argument was if

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<v Speaker 4>indeed the Giants are pointing towards twenty twenty eight and

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<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty nine, that's more reason to trade Logan Web.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, Okay, that's an interesting take. I got you.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, We're not ruling out twenty seven. First of all,

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<v Speaker 4>is there going to be baseball in twenty seven?

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<v Speaker 2>Lockout?

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<v Speaker 4>But it's an interesting take that if you only have

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<v Speaker 4>Web for two more years and you're pointing towards twenty

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<v Speaker 4>eight and twenty nine, why wouldn't you trade him? The

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<v Speaker 4>other angle would be to keep him around because he's

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<v Speaker 4>really freaking good.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And I'd also say, before I play this cut

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<v Speaker 5>real quick, you know who else is also going to

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<v Speaker 5>be here in twenty eight twenty nine. Raphael Devers, Willie Adomis,

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<v Speaker 5>Matt Chatman contracts are still around. Yeah, there's a possibility

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<v Speaker 5>they get moved this offseason or maybe in the foreseeable future.

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<v Speaker 5>But if Bus or Posey, according to this cut, thinks

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<v Speaker 5>that this team can compete in the next couple of years,

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<v Speaker 5>you're gonna need a guy like Logan Web.

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<v Speaker 2>Leading this rotation. Here's Posey on not trading Logan web.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I don't think it's out of the realm

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<v Speaker 3>with possibilities at all to think that we can be

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<v Speaker 3>in contention. And Webby's a guy who's been around for

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<v Speaker 3>a long time, he's a pros pro. Had a great

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<v Speaker 3>conversation with him a couple of weeks ago and was

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<v Speaker 3>just really enthused to see his enthusiasm about where he

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<v Speaker 3>is at this point in his career and his understanding

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<v Speaker 3>I think of of what it's going to take as

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<v Speaker 3>he's starting to rack up the years and the innings

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<v Speaker 3>to continue to be pitching it an elite level, And

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<v Speaker 3>was was just really encouraging just to hear I think

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<v Speaker 3>how excited he was about the way his body was feeling.

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<v Speaker 3>Feel like he had not to speak for him, but

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<v Speaker 3>you know, making some changes with's the way he's doing

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<v Speaker 3>some of his work, and just felt like his body

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<v Speaker 3>was in a really good place.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's he's a guy.

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<v Speaker 3>That I think we all see as somebody that can

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<v Speaker 3>can mentor the next wave of pitchers that come through

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<v Speaker 3>San Francisco. And yes, I do think that, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we we feel like there's still a chance as bad

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<v Speaker 3>as this year has been this year, that we can

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<v Speaker 3>be a team that can be in contingent contention.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, very very interesting stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>And by the way, Tony Vattello went out of his

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<v Speaker 4>way to say Logan web performed like a leader last

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<v Speaker 4>night in Texas heid there was a day of pure

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<v Speaker 4>chaos and Webby calmed everyone down with six shuddy.

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<v Speaker 5>You know what Logan Webb did yesterday? He tasted like

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<v Speaker 5>some waffle fries from Chick fil A.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty damn good.

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<v Speaker 6>There you go.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, Well, listen, Kype after a win, Kipe after

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<v Speaker 4>a trade deadline that reshaped the future of the Giants.

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<v Speaker 7>Next on the Sports Leader KNBR Sports Leader, there's no

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<v Speaker 7>question we've got the best in the boot. That's why

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<v Speaker 7>we all mimic his call.

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<v Speaker 2>Time for murphin Marcus catch up with Kite.

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<v Speaker 1>On KNBR one oh four, five am and.

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<v Speaker 4>Six oh yeah, what a day in Giants history. At

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<v Speaker 4>various times through the years, me and Dwayne have talked

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<v Speaker 4>and Kipe seg Murph.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you want to play the kid. You want

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<v Speaker 2>kids Murby. Hey, they did it.

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<v Speaker 4>They traded for a slew of prospects and we'll get

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<v Speaker 4>Dwayne's take on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Play the Kids, h for Sure.

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<v Speaker 4>Giants twenty twenty six, Trade Lead nine gone, Elliot Ramos

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<v Speaker 4>to the Yankees, Luis Rise to the Phillies, Robbie Raid

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<v Speaker 4>to the Padres, Eric Miller to the Reds, Caleb Killian gone,

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<v Speaker 4>Tyler Mally gone, income, a ton of prospects, including Marcello Meyer,

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<v Speaker 4>Ramon Marquez a pitcher, Henry Lallani a pitcher, Jeff Kent's son.

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<v Speaker 4>So many things to talk about, Kype, we got a

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<v Speaker 4>million things to get to.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning, How are you hey, morning, Kipe?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah? What it was kind of a different day yesterday,

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<v Speaker 6>wasn't it, you know, not a day that any of

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<v Speaker 6>us are used to. I mean, look, last year, I

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<v Speaker 6>get it, it was a seller's year. But over the

0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:36.719
<v Speaker 6>years we've been used to watching Brian Sabian and and

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<v Speaker 6>that group just be buyers buyers almost every year, and

0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:45.360
<v Speaker 6>you kind of get used to that because if you're

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<v Speaker 6>a buyer, that means you're having a good year. And

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<v Speaker 6>of course we know what type of year it's been

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<v Speaker 6>this year and in even the last couple of years,

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<v Speaker 6>but this year when sideways so fast that there's no

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<v Speaker 6>way to catch up. And if you can't put together

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<v Speaker 6>a winning streak like the Red Sox did, then you're

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<v Speaker 6>not gonna You're not gonna be in the thing. And

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<v Speaker 6>I'm still amazed at how they did that. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 6>so you know this, when you don't play well and

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<v Speaker 6>you have a record like they do, you kind of

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<v Speaker 6>have to expect us, especially if you've got some people

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<v Speaker 6>that are leaving after the season is over, and they did. No,

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<v Speaker 6>the unexpected are the guys that you have under control,

0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:40.000
<v Speaker 6>like Romoson Miller. Uh, that's probably a little bit more unexpected,

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<v Speaker 6>But I get it. Once you get on a roll

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<v Speaker 6>and you start acquiring prospects and you start looking into

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<v Speaker 6>the future, it's probably a good time to start pulling

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<v Speaker 6>the trigger. And pull the trigger they did.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I liked all of it.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I really just feel like, you know, what

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<v Speaker 4>we've seen the last five years, including this year, just

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<v Speaker 4>called for a new change. And you know, we don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>as Buster himself said, until they do it on a

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<v Speaker 4>big league field.

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<v Speaker 2>You're dreaming.

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<v Speaker 4>But you certainly have a lot of lottery tickets now

0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:13.000
<v Speaker 4>to cash in. Was there any one of them that

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<v Speaker 4>raised your eyebrows the most of all the trades that

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<v Speaker 4>went down. What one kind of caught your eye the most.

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<v Speaker 6>Probably the infielder from the Red Sox Mayor just because

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<v Speaker 6>of his his stock. I mean, you know, guys, young

0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:37.520
<v Speaker 6>guys are not going to all come out of the

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<v Speaker 6>gate and be like Ronald of Junior Junior was. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>that doesn't always happen, and it hasn't happened with this kid.

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<v Speaker 6>And I know he's getting up now, but I can't

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<v Speaker 6>wait to see him in a Giant's uniform. And I

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<v Speaker 6>hope when he's well, they put him right at second base,

0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:57.079
<v Speaker 6>put him out there. There's a spot open right there.

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<v Speaker 6>So you know, and if you listen to what the

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<v Speaker 6>so called experts are out there, and there's a ton

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<v Speaker 6>of them on TV and you know, on Exit radio,

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<v Speaker 6>and they all liked what happened yesterday for the Giants,

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<v Speaker 6>and a lot of them really liked this kid there,

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<v Speaker 6>so and you know, getting Canaden kids is fun. And

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<v Speaker 6>then I looked at his numbers and I thought, well,

0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:33.800
<v Speaker 6>they didn't get him for fun. His numbers are pretty

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<v Speaker 6>damn good. And then you know, you have to laugh

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<v Speaker 6>because now you've got a bonds and a kent in

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<v Speaker 6>the organization.

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<v Speaker 2>Crazy right, And then the other one I liked was.

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<v Speaker 6>The kids from Cuba the short stuff seventeen years old?

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<v Speaker 6>Is it Janelle or Janelle Hernandez? Bring him on? Maybe

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<v Speaker 6>you guys are stacked at that position. And I mean

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<v Speaker 6>they got four or five right now that are all

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<v Speaker 6>supposed to be really good. Well, add another kid to

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<v Speaker 6>the less let's see what you can do. So hey,

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, broadcast team isn't going to be as much

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<v Speaker 6>fun the rest of this year because you lost some

0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:25.520
<v Speaker 6>of the people that made the broadcast fun. But I

0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:29.080
<v Speaker 6>do think our fans will still him out. They've been

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<v Speaker 6>great fans all year, and I do think they'd get

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<v Speaker 6>this too.

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<v Speaker 5>Kip, you mentioned two of the controllable contracts that the

0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:39.440
<v Speaker 5>Giants shred away, one being Eric Miller and the trade

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<v Speaker 5>with the Red Sox for Marcelo Meyer. Also Elliot rams

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<v Speaker 5>being shipped out to the Yankees for Kaid And can't

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<v Speaker 5>you just mentioned in Henry Lalaune, one of the Yankees'

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<v Speaker 5>top pitching prospects. What do you think it says about

0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:51.600
<v Speaker 5>this organization, especially in the Elliot Ramas trade, that they

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<v Speaker 5>would be willing to give up a home grown bat

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<v Speaker 5>like elliot Ramos do you think they have more confident

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<v Speaker 5>overall with the offense at the big league level and

0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:01.240
<v Speaker 5>throughout the minor league system. They're willing to part what

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<v Speaker 5>they team controllable bat like this to go out and

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<v Speaker 5>get one of the betting pitching prospects in all of baseball.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I mean, I think, Marcus, you have to look

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<v Speaker 6>what are we getting in return? And all those things

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<v Speaker 6>you said about Elliott Ramos and all the wonderful things

0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:25.240
<v Speaker 6>people say about them, they're all true. But if this

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<v Speaker 6>year is going to be the way it is, why

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<v Speaker 6>not get a couple of prospects. You have people that

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<v Speaker 6>you want to see if they can play or not,

0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:41.280
<v Speaker 6>like Grant McCrae. You know, Gilbert is still out there.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, we got some guys coming off the IL

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<v Speaker 6>and they're not going to play. If Ramos is out there,

0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:51.560
<v Speaker 6>they know what Ramos can do. So give these kids

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<v Speaker 6>a shot and then get some people in return.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, listen, last night's lineup was crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>Nate Furman out there, they got they got any Alex

0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:02.200
<v Speaker 4>Cobb trade. Shout out Farhan, that was an Alex Cobb

0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:05.120
<v Speaker 4>trade pickup. Grant McCray was out there last night. So

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<v Speaker 4>I actually to be honest, I was intrigued to watch

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<v Speaker 4>I know, maybe like, oh, I wanted to see what

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<v Speaker 4>McCray did. I wanted to see what Furman did, you

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<v Speaker 4>know type you know, I'm in Ray Reaver, San Martin,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, bring him on, I want.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, And I wanted to see what John Lee could do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, enjoyed that.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, he hits him in bunches, and you know, and

0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:35.480
<v Speaker 6>web was great. Uh. And I think we're starting to

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<v Speaker 6>see who your catcher is going to be for a while.

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<v Speaker 6>Maybe not every day this year, but you're looking down

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<v Speaker 6>the road. I think they got a good one in Suicide.

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<v Speaker 5>Kuype last night with the Giants making all those moves,

0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:55.200
<v Speaker 5>treading away six guys from active roster. They actually played

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<v Speaker 5>a man down last night. Talk to us about some

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<v Speaker 5>of the challenges that maybe pop up now, not only

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<v Speaker 5>as a player being uncertain if you're gonna get traded

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<v Speaker 5>before the deadline, but how much more difficult it is

0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:06.720
<v Speaker 5>for Tony Vitello and his staff to put together a

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<v Speaker 5>line for the last night's game when there's so much

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<v Speaker 5>uncertainty leading them to the deadline.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, because you don't remember when rosters were twenty five,

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, they were a twenty five man roster for

0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:25.359
<v Speaker 6>a long long time and then just recently they've jumped

0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:28.440
<v Speaker 6>it up a couple. So you know, it's not that

0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:31.520
<v Speaker 6>tough for a manager. I mean, unless you get involved

0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:36.160
<v Speaker 6>in an extrating game and you know, you start looking

0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:40.040
<v Speaker 6>down the bench and maybe you can't pinch it when

0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:43.080
<v Speaker 6>you should. You know, maybe if you do pinch hit,

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<v Speaker 6>you're an infielders short of where to put them. Uh.

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<v Speaker 6>But bottom line is is after you trade that many people,

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<v Speaker 6>I think any manager is going to be you know,

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<v Speaker 6>they're going to have a long, long leash as to

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<v Speaker 6>what he can do or can't do. But I don't

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<v Speaker 6>think it was that big of a deal.

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<v Speaker 4>Logan Webb with a great performance last night to calm

0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:12.160
<v Speaker 4>everything down. Tony Tellis said, a pure chaos. He threw

0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:14.720
<v Speaker 4>six shutout Giants get the win five to one. Talking

0:18:14.760 --> 0:18:17.080
<v Speaker 4>to Kype, Giants do go back at it tonight. Interestingly enough,

0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:21.360
<v Speaker 4>Blade Tidwell scheduled to start part of this whole makeover

0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:23.600
<v Speaker 4>that we're seeing, but Cap I wanted to do one

0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:25.520
<v Speaker 4>thing that was kind of fun here. I know you

0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:28.040
<v Speaker 4>are an ardent listener to the Murf and Marcus Show

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<v Speaker 4>and we appreciate you. Did you hear Jeff Kent on

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<v Speaker 4>with us last week?

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<v Speaker 6>God? How did I miss that? Well?

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<v Speaker 2>Great?

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<v Speaker 4>So do you mind if we play a little he

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<v Speaker 4>We actually asked him about Caden Kent, not knowing at

0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:45.719
<v Speaker 4>all that Cayden Kent was gonna get traded to the Giants.

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<v Speaker 4>We were just having a nice conversation with him. I

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<v Speaker 4>looked up his son's numbers. I said, hey, your kid's

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<v Speaker 4>putting up decent numbers in high A. Do I want

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<v Speaker 4>to play this for you because you'll get a kick

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<v Speaker 4>in just some classic Jeff Kent. This is Jeff Kent's

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<v Speaker 4>analysis of his own son on our show last week.

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<v Speaker 2>Take a listen.

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<v Speaker 8>I've beat him up enough where he is. His power

0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:10.320
<v Speaker 8>numbers are are okay, he's not big power numbers, but

0:19:10.520 --> 0:19:14.640
<v Speaker 8>his strikeap, the walk ratio is okay for the minor league.

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<v Speaker 8>But you look at a lot of kids in the

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<v Speaker 8>minor leagues and they're hitting two forty going to the

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<v Speaker 8>big leagues. I told Kayden, if he goes kids two forty,

0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:24.560
<v Speaker 8>I'm gonna fill him. He's got to hit. He's got

0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:27.040
<v Speaker 8>to stay in that three hundred range. At one time

0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:29.159
<v Speaker 8>he was hitting three point fifty. Another time he was

0:19:29.280 --> 0:19:32.480
<v Speaker 8>hitting two eighty so, and I want him to move

0:19:32.560 --> 0:19:35.200
<v Speaker 8>the ball around the field drive in runs. He was

0:19:35.280 --> 0:19:37.800
<v Speaker 8>hitting leadoffs and driving in a bunch of runs, and

0:19:38.560 --> 0:19:41.400
<v Speaker 8>he's doing a good job of doing that. I still

0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:44.000
<v Speaker 8>don't know what kind of hitter he's gonna be. He's

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<v Speaker 8>not gonna be a big power guy.

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<v Speaker 6>The kids.

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<v Speaker 8>The kid loves the game. And as I said in

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<v Speaker 8>my feet, I'm I'm he loves the game more than

0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:55.080
<v Speaker 8>I did at his age. And that's scary. But he's

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<v Speaker 8>doing a good job. And I'm proud that I get

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<v Speaker 8>to stand back and watch a kid work and uh

0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:03.439
<v Speaker 8>and get to throw cents and every now and then too.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think of that?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I mean, if it if you just said who

0:20:09.640 --> 0:20:12.399
<v Speaker 6>is this and I didn't know, I mean, you know

0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:15.800
<v Speaker 6>right away that it was Jeff Kent and uh, and

0:20:15.920 --> 0:20:19.359
<v Speaker 6>you know we always described Kent when he was a player.

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<v Speaker 6>Is you know the you're driving down I five to

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<v Speaker 6>LA and you can stop by the highway patrol and

0:20:27.720 --> 0:20:30.280
<v Speaker 6>that top comes to your window and he's got the

0:20:30.400 --> 0:20:36.720
<v Speaker 6>mirrored glasses. That's him. Now. Now, now figure a couple

0:20:36.760 --> 0:20:41.399
<v Speaker 6>of boys being raised by that guy. Uh, so I

0:20:41.720 --> 0:20:43.800
<v Speaker 6>don't think there's any doubt that this kid is tough

0:20:44.720 --> 0:20:48.000
<v Speaker 6>and uh and his dad made him tough, but uh,

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<v Speaker 6>but it the fact that he loves the game as

0:20:52.000 --> 0:20:54.679
<v Speaker 6>much as he does and he comes from good stock.

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<v Speaker 6>You might see that kid in the big leagues, and

0:20:57.400 --> 0:21:00.960
<v Speaker 6>then I don't think that would surprise anybody. Kipe.

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<v Speaker 5>With the addition of Caden King, Joni l Hernandez, who

0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:07.200
<v Speaker 5>you brought up, and Marcelo Meyer, that now makes a

0:21:07.400 --> 0:21:10.000
<v Speaker 5>pretty loaded pharm system of middle infielders. You look at

0:21:10.080 --> 0:21:13.840
<v Speaker 5>Josh Wargenzalez, Loui Hernandez, Johnny Lolevell, all teenagers. Gavin Keeling

0:21:13.920 --> 0:21:15.359
<v Speaker 5>was a first round pick a couple of years ago

0:21:15.400 --> 0:21:18.080
<v Speaker 5>out of Tennessee. Is it a problem to have too

0:21:18.160 --> 0:21:20.840
<v Speaker 5>many infielders or do you think the versatility is there

0:21:20.880 --> 0:21:22.680
<v Speaker 5>for maybe these guys that climb the rankings at other

0:21:22.720 --> 0:21:23.960
<v Speaker 5>positions throughout the organization.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, listen, I don't think it's that long ago. I

0:21:28.359 --> 0:21:31.480
<v Speaker 6>told this story. We going to Cleveland two years ago

0:21:32.720 --> 0:21:35.840
<v Speaker 6>and Stephen Vote comes over, because you know, he knows

0:21:35.920 --> 0:21:39.920
<v Speaker 6>everybody to dugout, And as he was walking away, he

0:21:40.000 --> 0:21:43.159
<v Speaker 6>turned around and he looked at I think Hobby and

0:21:43.240 --> 0:21:46.680
<v Speaker 6>I were sitting there and he said, guys, we're start

0:21:46.720 --> 0:21:52.720
<v Speaker 6>eating seven short steps today. And you know, we were like, hey,

0:21:52.880 --> 0:21:56.119
<v Speaker 6>good one order of good job. Way to go. And

0:21:56.240 --> 0:21:58.440
<v Speaker 6>then we turned around and we went upstairs and looked

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<v Speaker 6>even out of the nine guys that played short at

0:22:02.280 --> 0:22:05.439
<v Speaker 6>some point. So if that's an example of it, If

0:22:05.480 --> 0:22:08.520
<v Speaker 6>you can play short, it's likely you can move around

0:22:08.600 --> 0:22:13.119
<v Speaker 6>and play just about anywhere. And it is such a

0:22:13.240 --> 0:22:17.600
<v Speaker 6>valued position that if you've got if you've got a

0:22:17.680 --> 0:22:22.479
<v Speaker 6>great one playing at the big league level, another backup

0:22:22.560 --> 0:22:25.480
<v Speaker 6>one wouldn't be a bad idea, and any other ones

0:22:25.520 --> 0:22:27.960
<v Speaker 6>that you have will bring you some really good players

0:22:28.000 --> 0:22:32.000
<v Speaker 6>in return if you decide to trade him. And maybe

0:22:32.080 --> 0:22:32.720
<v Speaker 6>that's what they do.

0:22:33.520 --> 0:22:36.360
<v Speaker 4>Giants, maybe starting seven short stops in twenty twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 4>Who does It's pretty fun something now, I mean, listen,

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<v Speaker 4>it's good enough.

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<v Speaker 2>For Steven Vote.

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<v Speaker 4>And speaking of which, Kype, when we talk about this

0:22:42.600 --> 0:22:44.399
<v Speaker 4>trade deadline, Marcus and I were saying this earlier in

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<v Speaker 4>the show, we have to throw Patrick Bailey in there too.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, that's a major piece that they traded earlier

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<v Speaker 4>this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Think about that. Now they've traded.

0:22:51.960 --> 0:22:57.000
<v Speaker 4>Bailey, Ramos, Eric Miller Robbie Ray Luis Rise. So this

0:22:57.160 --> 0:22:59.360
<v Speaker 4>guy Buster, you know, he's getting knocked by so many

0:22:59.400 --> 0:23:02.000
<v Speaker 4>fans because the lost record is bad. And that's fair, right,

0:23:02.040 --> 0:23:03.719
<v Speaker 4>the what you are, what your record says you are.

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<v Speaker 4>But man oh man man kive, I don't ever remember,

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<v Speaker 4>and you mentioned Sabian buying, but even that, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>remember any GM being this active.

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<v Speaker 2>Ever.

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<v Speaker 6>The last time it was this active was when Brian

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<v Speaker 6>made the big trade that brought Kent over in three

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<v Speaker 6>or four other guys, and that was for Matt Williams

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<v Speaker 6>and maybe somebody else. I think that you know there

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<v Speaker 6>was I think Brian made one in ninety seven with

0:23:32.080 --> 0:23:36.600
<v Speaker 6>the White Sox. Think he got her Hernandez was one

0:23:36.640 --> 0:23:40.159
<v Speaker 6>of the relievers, and Danny Darwin might have been in

0:23:40.240 --> 0:23:44.160
<v Speaker 6>that deal. And there was a starter, a left Tanny starter.

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<v Speaker 6>But as far as number of people traded, I don't

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<v Speaker 6>believe this has ever happened in the organization. You may

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<v Speaker 6>have gotten some volume back, but this is this is

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<v Speaker 6>really something. So speaking of Patrick Bailey, did you guys

0:24:04.720 --> 0:24:12.040
<v Speaker 6>cover the story with the Diamondbacks and the Guardians where

0:24:12.200 --> 0:24:15.480
<v Speaker 6>the Williams pitcher from Cleveland had a no hitter.

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<v Speaker 4>We didn't cover because we were at Santa Clara yesterday

0:24:18.119 --> 0:24:20.679
<v Speaker 4>doing all Niners, but we definitely saw it over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I think it was a couple of days ago

0:24:23.480 --> 0:24:28.639
<v Speaker 6>when Tim Tawa tried to bunt. Yeah. Yeah, it was

0:24:28.760 --> 0:24:32.720
<v Speaker 6>great because now the managers come out of their face

0:24:32.800 --> 0:24:35.840
<v Speaker 6>to face and teams out there. But guests who broke

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<v Speaker 6>up the scrum old pat ground screw, not the ground screw.

0:24:40.800 --> 0:24:43.040
<v Speaker 6>They couldn't put the tarp on the field because it

0:24:43.160 --> 0:24:46.720
<v Speaker 6>was raining so hard that uh that the heads ground

0:24:46.800 --> 0:24:50.800
<v Speaker 6>crew guy broke everybody up. But actually Patrick Bailey waited

0:24:50.880 --> 0:24:55.119
<v Speaker 6>for twa because he butted the ball foul and h

0:24:55.160 --> 0:24:57.120
<v Speaker 6>and approached him as soon as he got the home

0:24:57.200 --> 0:24:59.360
<v Speaker 6>plate and he looked at him and you could read

0:24:59.400 --> 0:25:02.480
<v Speaker 6>his lips. He said, what the heck are you? Tweets

0:25:04.640 --> 0:25:08.040
<v Speaker 6>And it's a great baseball discussion, it really is. It

0:25:08.160 --> 0:25:11.280
<v Speaker 6>was a two to nothing score. I think think Guy's

0:25:11.320 --> 0:25:13.480
<v Speaker 6>got a wreck to bud ooh part of his game.

0:25:13.720 --> 0:25:20.720
<v Speaker 6>Ooh gotcha because I budded. I don't know if I'd

0:25:20.760 --> 0:25:23.600
<v Speaker 6>have done it there, especially if somebody out of the

0:25:23.640 --> 0:25:27.719
<v Speaker 6>mind was angry enough to throw it at you. But anyway,

0:25:27.760 --> 0:25:29.840
<v Speaker 6>I just thought it was interested, and Patrick Bailey was

0:25:29.880 --> 0:25:31.720
<v Speaker 6>in the middle of it, and I think he actually

0:25:31.720 --> 0:25:32.640
<v Speaker 6>hadn't win that game.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know what's interesting, And I'll just throw this

0:25:34.480 --> 0:25:36.880
<v Speaker 4>out there. I don't know what war is wins above replacement.

0:25:37.200 --> 0:25:39.400
<v Speaker 4>The stack came around fifteen years ago. People start throwing

0:25:39.440 --> 0:25:41.639
<v Speaker 4>it at me. I don't know, but you use it

0:25:41.760 --> 0:25:44.240
<v Speaker 4>in an argument when it helps you. Here's an interesting

0:25:44.400 --> 0:25:48.760
<v Speaker 4>stat because it includes defense. Daniel Sussak's war for twenty

0:25:48.800 --> 0:25:51.080
<v Speaker 4>twenty six is actually higher than Patrick Bailey's.

0:25:52.280 --> 0:25:54.280
<v Speaker 2>That crazy zero point eight to zero point three.

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<v Speaker 6>I not obviously not aware of that, and I am

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<v Speaker 6>surprised by that, but I'll stand by what I said.

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<v Speaker 6>This kid's going to be really really good. Su Sac

0:26:08.480 --> 0:26:10.520
<v Speaker 6>Sue Sack's gonna be really really good good.

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<v Speaker 9>I like that.

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<v Speaker 4>I like that they didn't trade him, they kept him. Oh, man,

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<v Speaker 4>kve what a day, man, What a crazy, crazy, crazy day.

0:26:17.200 --> 0:26:19.280
<v Speaker 4>And we've been to tell you what easy show for us.

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<v Speaker 9>Man.

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<v Speaker 4>People are less stacked up calling in and texting in,

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<v Speaker 4>so we got a lot to get to. So enjoy

0:26:25.800 --> 0:26:28.960
<v Speaker 4>your Tuesday night baseball Giants, Rangers. And see this kid

0:26:29.000 --> 0:26:31.560
<v Speaker 4>Blade Tidwell, see what he does and uh and then

0:26:31.600 --> 0:26:32.440
<v Speaker 4>we'll talk to you next week.

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<v Speaker 6>And by the way, m yes, they will compete next year. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I told you I wasn't gonna bitch, and I'm not.

0:26:41.200 --> 0:26:43.840
<v Speaker 2>And only am I not bitching. I'm actually pretty excited.

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<v Speaker 6>They will compete next year for a wildcard spot.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Kyve, we want baseball next year, no matter what.

0:26:52.080 --> 0:26:55.679
<v Speaker 6>I forgot about that, right, but tell me there's going

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<v Speaker 6>to be baseball next year, now, ticked off?

0:26:59.600 --> 0:27:01.600
<v Speaker 2>Come on, man, your buddy, Marvin Miller.

0:27:02.680 --> 0:27:04.960
<v Speaker 6>The thing in LA didn't help the sole situation.

0:27:05.200 --> 0:27:09.000
<v Speaker 2>No it didn't. It's going to affect that, You're right, affect.

0:27:08.720 --> 0:27:12.200
<v Speaker 6>It those you know, those middle market teams. You know

0:27:12.320 --> 0:27:14.720
<v Speaker 6>they they were dug in and I think they dug

0:27:14.800 --> 0:27:19.240
<v Speaker 6>in a little deeper. Now we'll see what happens. It

0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:22.680
<v Speaker 6>makes me sick to think something could happen, but we've

0:27:22.760 --> 0:27:23.399
<v Speaker 6>seen it before.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, let's not worry about Le's just try to enjoy blade.

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<v Speaker 4>Ted well tonight, So thanks, Kyle, be good next week.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually can't characterize it with how you want. I

0:28:27.440 --> 0:28:30.120
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't necessarily say a rebuild. I mean, obviously we move

0:28:30.240 --> 0:28:33.760
<v Speaker 3>some some six major league players off of our roster today.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess the messages we're not satisfied with the way

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<v Speaker 3>that we've played this year in the last few years,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're trying everything we can to to continue to

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<v Speaker 3>build a product that we can all be, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>excited to come and watch. And that was really the

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<v Speaker 3>goal and this is can we even if we have

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<v Speaker 3>to subtract a little bit, now, can we potentially add

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<v Speaker 3>some players that we think are are going to be

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<v Speaker 3>excited about and hopefully wear a Giants uniform for a

0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:03.720
<v Speaker 3>long time.

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<v Speaker 4>There it is buster posey with the topic of the

0:29:06.360 --> 0:29:09.360
<v Speaker 4>day and the topic of the really the month, because

0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:11.400
<v Speaker 4>the Giants with a full makeover.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we can't call it a fire.

0:29:13.280 --> 0:29:15.800
<v Speaker 4>Sale because they didn't trade Logan Web, Jung Huli or

0:29:15.840 --> 0:29:17.720
<v Speaker 4>any of the big three. Dev's a Dominsion Chapman. But

0:29:17.760 --> 0:29:20.880
<v Speaker 4>we're calling it a firesal. Perhaps drop the he some

0:29:21.040 --> 0:29:23.200
<v Speaker 4>saying a garage sale, some saying a makeover where you

0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:25.680
<v Speaker 4>keep two walls and pay less in permit fees. But

0:29:25.880 --> 0:29:29.000
<v Speaker 4>something changed with the Giants yesterday. It's all we've been

0:29:29.040 --> 0:29:31.520
<v Speaker 4>talking about. At eight oh eight Cambyr's the phone number.

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<v Speaker 4>It's been a caller's day.

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<v Speaker 2>Stack them up.

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<v Speaker 4>Eight oh eight Camby our old school call day, Golden

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<v Speaker 4>State Lumber and showIn text line four and five eight

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<v Speaker 4>oh eight, five six two seven. Of course you are

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<v Speaker 4>listening to camberr MCAMBR FM, Servi School the Sports Leader,

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<v Speaker 4>a Cumulus Media station. Me Marcus, I'm in, I've wanted

0:29:47.640 --> 0:29:50.240
<v Speaker 4>this for a long time, dating back to the twenty

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<v Speaker 4>seventeen eighteen Samarja Cuato Longoria days when they were trying

0:29:55.480 --> 0:29:58.080
<v Speaker 4>to keep hope alive and just kind of spinning their wheels.

0:29:58.160 --> 0:30:00.680
<v Speaker 4>And now here we are again, and they in the

0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:03.680
<v Speaker 4>devers of Damas Chapman days. And no, they didn't move

0:30:03.680 --> 0:30:05.640
<v Speaker 4>any of those guys, But man, oh man, did they

0:30:05.880 --> 0:30:08.800
<v Speaker 4>stack the farm system two years in a row now,

0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:11.320
<v Speaker 4>and with a good draft pick last or two first

0:30:11.400 --> 0:30:14.200
<v Speaker 4>round draft picks just last month. Giants right now are

0:30:14.280 --> 0:30:18.720
<v Speaker 4>looking way more promising for twenty twenty eight, twenty nine,

0:30:18.800 --> 0:30:22.240
<v Speaker 4>twenty thirty than they have at any point in the

0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:23.000
<v Speaker 4>twenty twenties.

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<v Speaker 2>For sure. Now the question to you, guys is is

0:30:25.560 --> 0:30:26.520
<v Speaker 2>that too long to wait?

0:30:27.040 --> 0:30:29.600
<v Speaker 4>Are you guys thinking it's just all hopes and dreams

0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:32.360
<v Speaker 4>and lottery tickets and you'd rather see Shohey Otani and

0:30:32.400 --> 0:30:36.280
<v Speaker 4>Freddie Freeman in orange and black? But man Oman between

0:30:36.840 --> 0:30:39.840
<v Speaker 4>the Ramon Marquez acquisition from the Phillies, which Buster Posey

0:30:39.880 --> 0:30:40.200
<v Speaker 4>went out of.

0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:41.760
<v Speaker 2>His way to highlight, Henry L.

0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:45.600
<v Speaker 4>Lane of the Yankees and Miguel Mendez of the Padres,

0:30:45.640 --> 0:30:48.240
<v Speaker 4>all acquired in the Robbie Ray Elliott Ramos and Luisa

0:30:48.320 --> 0:30:50.680
<v Speaker 4>Ris trades. There are those in the industry saying the

0:30:50.760 --> 0:30:54.040
<v Speaker 4>Giants got three legitimate starting position prospects to go with

0:30:54.200 --> 0:30:58.360
<v Speaker 4>Jackson Flora and Carson Bowman and Wacht and tug Boat Wilkinson.

0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:01.160
<v Speaker 4>Don't forget Pat Bailey as part of this trade deadline

0:31:01.160 --> 0:31:01.560
<v Speaker 4>stuff too.

0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:03.400
<v Speaker 2>That happened in May. So listen.

0:31:03.600 --> 0:31:06.440
<v Speaker 4>One texter said, the only reason you'd be trading away

0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:08.760
<v Speaker 4>for prospects is if you did a terrible job building

0:31:09.280 --> 0:31:12.600
<v Speaker 4>this year's team. All true, but believe me, we've been

0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:14.760
<v Speaker 4>saying that all year. Yeah, Marcus, give me a laugh

0:31:14.840 --> 0:31:17.040
<v Speaker 4>track here. We've been saying it all year. Just ask

0:31:17.080 --> 0:31:20.960
<v Speaker 4>the Giants, right. So, I mean, nobody's excusing the twenty

0:31:21.000 --> 0:31:24.640
<v Speaker 4>twenty sixteen but we are saying, when you're giving chicken blank,

0:31:25.520 --> 0:31:27.720
<v Speaker 4>try to make chicken salad, give me some chicken salad.

0:31:27.720 --> 0:31:29.360
<v Speaker 4>I feel like there's at least the makings for a

0:31:29.440 --> 0:31:30.040
<v Speaker 4>chicken salad.

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<v Speaker 5>And Murph, circling back to your opening statement, it's not

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<v Speaker 5>just a topic of today, the topic of the last

0:31:35.000 --> 0:31:36.360
<v Speaker 5>couple of weeks. It feels like this has been a

0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:39.360
<v Speaker 5>topic all season long for the Giants, since opening night.

0:31:39.440 --> 0:31:41.160
<v Speaker 2>And I know immediately it wasn't that bad.

0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:42.880
<v Speaker 5>But this has been a bad baseball team with a

0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:45.760
<v Speaker 5>bad bullten and not that great of a rotation. So

0:31:45.880 --> 0:31:48.959
<v Speaker 5>you can call this a rebuild, a retool, you can

0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:51.200
<v Speaker 5>call it whatever the hell you want. I call it

0:31:51.400 --> 0:31:54.120
<v Speaker 5>actually doing something. I call it being active at this

0:31:54.280 --> 0:31:57.600
<v Speaker 5>trade deadline, because it was one of our biggest complaints

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<v Speaker 5>about the prior regime, about holding onto guys like Blake Snell,

0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:05.240
<v Speaker 5>like Carlos Rodin pieces that you knew were walking away

0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:08.720
<v Speaker 5>on expiring contracts and getting absolutely nothing for a return.

0:32:09.000 --> 0:32:11.160
<v Speaker 5>That's why we've been talking about the topic of trading

0:32:11.200 --> 0:32:13.239
<v Speaker 5>away Luisa Rice as much as we all love them,

0:32:13.400 --> 0:32:16.080
<v Speaker 5>treading away Robbie Ray, who might have been maybe one

0:32:16.120 --> 0:32:19.120
<v Speaker 5>of four Hunt's best moves, Flitcher flipping Mitch Hanneger to

0:32:19.200 --> 0:32:21.240
<v Speaker 5>get Robby Ray, and now flipping him for a couple

0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:24.280
<v Speaker 5>of prospects from the Padre system for a rental. Then

0:32:24.320 --> 0:32:26.800
<v Speaker 5>you go on even beyond the rentals and moving on

0:32:26.920 --> 0:32:29.720
<v Speaker 5>from a guy like Tyler Mallley, treadingway Elliott Ramos and

0:32:29.720 --> 0:32:32.520
<v Speaker 5>getting two top fifteen prospects from the Yankees, treading away

0:32:32.640 --> 0:32:35.880
<v Speaker 5>Eric Miller, a bullpen arm for Marcelo Meyer, who might

0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:39.440
<v Speaker 5>be one of the potential biggest steals of this trade deadline.

0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:41.760
<v Speaker 5>This is the guy that's been widely regarded as a

0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:44.720
<v Speaker 5>top fifteen, top twenty prospect in all of baseball for

0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:47.000
<v Speaker 5>the last three four years. A guy that a lot

0:32:47.080 --> 0:32:49.040
<v Speaker 5>of Boston Red Sox fans thought that they were gonna

0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:52.720
<v Speaker 5>build the future of this franchise around, hasn't really shown

0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:54.520
<v Speaker 5>it at the big league level. Is currently dealing with

0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:57.120
<v Speaker 5>an injury right now. But that's one hell of a

0:32:57.280 --> 0:33:00.320
<v Speaker 5>by low move for me for our left handed bullpen arm.

0:33:00.560 --> 0:33:02.400
<v Speaker 5>It's a move that you need to make. And it

0:33:02.480 --> 0:33:05.120
<v Speaker 5>feels like they've really replenished his farm system over the

0:33:05.200 --> 0:33:06.920
<v Speaker 5>last couple of months when you look at what they've

0:33:06.960 --> 0:33:09.240
<v Speaker 5>done through the trade deadline and also through the MLB.

0:33:09.560 --> 0:33:11.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean we're in agreement here on this. I mean,

0:33:11.320 --> 0:33:13.240
<v Speaker 2>this is needed to be done, and he did it,

0:33:13.440 --> 0:33:15.600
<v Speaker 2>and then some man trade Elliott Ramas. You know what's

0:33:15.600 --> 0:33:16.440
<v Speaker 2>interesting to mean Ramos.

0:33:16.800 --> 0:33:19.440
<v Speaker 4>Ramos's departure hasn't torn up Giants fans as much as

0:33:19.440 --> 0:33:19.720
<v Speaker 4>I thought.

0:33:19.720 --> 0:33:20.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's forever Giant.

0:33:20.920 --> 0:33:23.000
<v Speaker 4>He goes back to the Bobby Evans they got him

0:33:23.000 --> 0:33:25.320
<v Speaker 4>in twenty eighteen, He was the guy they brought into

0:33:25.360 --> 0:33:26.800
<v Speaker 4>the dugout like Jackson Flora.

0:33:27.000 --> 0:33:29.640
<v Speaker 5>You know, yeah, I mean he was the first home

0:33:29.880 --> 0:33:33.560
<v Speaker 5>grown outfilled All Star since Chili Davis High School. He

0:33:33.760 --> 0:33:36.840
<v Speaker 5>was the first ever right handed hitter to hit a

0:33:36.920 --> 0:33:40.000
<v Speaker 5>splash hit in some COVID cove. Elliott Ramos, a guy

0:33:40.080 --> 0:33:42.120
<v Speaker 5>that a lot of people labeled a bust at age

0:33:42.160 --> 0:33:45.080
<v Speaker 5>twenty two, twenty three, twenty four, had a breakout season

0:33:45.080 --> 0:33:47.440
<v Speaker 5>at age twenty five, turned into an All Star, and

0:33:47.560 --> 0:33:48.960
<v Speaker 5>now you're able to move him for a couple of

0:33:49.000 --> 0:33:50.480
<v Speaker 5>prospects just a few years later.

0:33:50.560 --> 0:33:53.400
<v Speaker 4>In fact, Ramos and Casey Schmid are two examples as

0:33:53.440 --> 0:33:57.280
<v Speaker 4>to why you should be hopeful that Marcello Meyer could

0:33:57.320 --> 0:33:59.960
<v Speaker 4>do something. He's only twenty three years old. He's only

0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:01.840
<v Speaker 4>he had two hundred and five Big League at bats.

0:34:02.160 --> 0:34:04.240
<v Speaker 4>They say the glove is there. He has been injury

0:34:04.320 --> 0:34:06.040
<v Speaker 4>prone Red Sox fans, but Red Sox fans were in

0:34:06.080 --> 0:34:08.959
<v Speaker 4>their feelings. They were very attached to this guy. Now, again,

0:34:09.080 --> 0:34:11.719
<v Speaker 4>we know not every prospect pans out. As I was

0:34:11.800 --> 0:34:14.560
<v Speaker 4>just saying to my good friend Marco Luciano, although is

0:34:14.560 --> 0:34:15.600
<v Speaker 4>he putting up numbers on the.

0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:18.560
<v Speaker 2>Way He's hitting over three hundred the Yankees right.

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:20.799
<v Speaker 5>Now, another example of somebody who took some time right,

0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:23.200
<v Speaker 5>but the Giants were not patient enough, and next thing

0:34:23.239 --> 0:34:25.000
<v Speaker 5>you know, you're running out of options and making that

0:34:25.120 --> 0:34:27.240
<v Speaker 5>decision to move on from a guy like Marco Luciano,

0:34:27.480 --> 0:34:29.440
<v Speaker 5>just like the Red Sox are now moving on from Marcelo.

0:34:29.600 --> 0:34:29.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:34:29.960 --> 0:34:32.160
<v Speaker 4>Tons of reaction on the Golden State lumber and showroom

0:34:32.160 --> 0:34:33.960
<v Speaker 4>text line and calls eight away came back.

0:34:33.960 --> 0:34:35.440
<v Speaker 2>If you guys want to check in? Five one no,

0:34:35.560 --> 0:34:37.960
<v Speaker 2>said Brian and Marcus. Let him call me Brian. Hey,

0:34:38.040 --> 0:34:39.040
<v Speaker 2>what's Brian and Bobby?

0:34:39.160 --> 0:34:41.680
<v Speaker 4>I am so stoked about these giants move. It's about time.

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:43.719
<v Speaker 4>Oh this is Niner head Rick. Now, this farm system

0:34:43.800 --> 0:34:45.160
<v Speaker 4>is going to get strong, and that's how they should

0:34:45.200 --> 0:34:47.800
<v Speaker 4>be building this thing, especially in the pitching department.

0:34:47.880 --> 0:34:51.000
<v Speaker 2>Great job, buster, Zach and company. This Niner Headrick six

0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:51.520
<v Speaker 2>five us is.

0:34:51.520 --> 0:34:53.160
<v Speaker 4>All these trades are good, but let's hope the Giants

0:34:53.160 --> 0:34:56.239
<v Speaker 4>are able to develop these prospects.

0:34:56.280 --> 0:34:58.359
<v Speaker 2>It is key, that is the one thing, the key.

0:34:58.680 --> 0:35:00.080
<v Speaker 2>Four one four.

0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:03.880
<v Speaker 4>Rado says Eric Miller couldn't throw strike one to save

0:35:04.200 --> 0:35:05.640
<v Speaker 4>his life.

0:35:05.880 --> 0:35:07.680
<v Speaker 2>I've got trouble with strike two and strike three.

0:35:07.760 --> 0:35:09.920
<v Speaker 4>Sometimes nine one six says I hear you, Murph, but

0:35:09.960 --> 0:35:12.880
<v Speaker 4>how many prospects that we've been talking about for years now? Luciano,

0:35:12.960 --> 0:35:15.839
<v Speaker 4>wizen Hunt, Matos, the list, the list goes on a rise,

0:35:15.920 --> 0:35:19.960
<v Speaker 4>wanted to stay, extend him well nine six and the

0:35:20.000 --> 0:35:21.480
<v Speaker 4>first of all, Rid's gonna hit the market.

0:35:21.520 --> 0:35:23.520
<v Speaker 2>Bro, He's gonna hit the market. I don't think, Luisa Rise.

0:35:23.719 --> 0:35:23.919
<v Speaker 6>Nine.

0:35:24.560 --> 0:35:26.680
<v Speaker 4>To your point about the Luciano's, the wizen Hunts and

0:35:26.680 --> 0:35:28.880
<v Speaker 4>the Matos is, first of all, wizzen Hunts still has

0:35:28.960 --> 0:35:30.160
<v Speaker 4>hope and a chance to be good.

0:35:30.600 --> 0:35:32.839
<v Speaker 2>And second of all, that's why you flood the zone

0:35:32.920 --> 0:35:33.640
<v Speaker 2>with prospects.

0:35:33.840 --> 0:35:35.960
<v Speaker 4>Yes, some are not going to work out, but if

0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:38.719
<v Speaker 4>you flood the zone, some are simply the law of

0:35:38.840 --> 0:35:42.040
<v Speaker 4>averages here Uhi three says this is more of a

0:35:42.200 --> 0:35:46.239
<v Speaker 4>storage unit, auction storage trash that someone else might want. Also,

0:35:46.280 --> 0:35:47.960
<v Speaker 4>the Giants are one of the richest teams. They shouldn't

0:35:47.960 --> 0:35:50.160
<v Speaker 4>be competing for wild cards. They should be competing for

0:35:50.360 --> 0:35:50.920
<v Speaker 4>the division.

0:35:51.000 --> 0:35:53.400
<v Speaker 2>Shout out to the TV show Storage Wars. Is that

0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:54.160
<v Speaker 2>dall over there?

0:35:55.480 --> 0:35:55.640
<v Speaker 6>Two?

0:35:55.680 --> 0:35:57.520
<v Speaker 4>And nine says after the trade for Camilla de Val,

0:35:57.560 --> 0:35:59.239
<v Speaker 4>I'm surprised the Yankees even took our call.

0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:02.600
<v Speaker 5>I mean, yeah, Camillo is now a Pittsburgh Piray and

0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:05.880
<v Speaker 5>the Giants where we get Hajesus Rodriguez and Parks Harbor

0:36:06.000 --> 0:36:08.200
<v Speaker 5>back plus more in that trade package last year. It's

0:36:08.239 --> 0:36:10.239
<v Speaker 5>looking like back to back years where Buster in the

0:36:10.320 --> 0:36:12.800
<v Speaker 5>front office have gotten pretty good trade returns from the

0:36:12.880 --> 0:36:13.480
<v Speaker 5>Yankees four and.

0:36:13.520 --> 0:36:16.239
<v Speaker 4>Five says, I'm so excited about these trades. I'll see

0:36:16.280 --> 0:36:18.440
<v Speaker 4>you guys at the ballpark in twenty thirty if we're

0:36:18.480 --> 0:36:19.040
<v Speaker 4>still alive.

0:36:19.160 --> 0:36:21.200
<v Speaker 2>I suppose that's a cynical take there, for.

0:36:21.400 --> 0:36:23.359
<v Speaker 4>Ray says, is a tribute to this year's Giants team,

0:36:23.920 --> 0:36:26.239
<v Speaker 4>have a tribute of the producers at the current theater.

0:36:26.280 --> 0:36:27.560
<v Speaker 2>People still remember the current theater.

0:36:27.840 --> 0:36:30.479
<v Speaker 4>Eight three one says Giants fans that are pissed because

0:36:30.480 --> 0:36:32.560
<v Speaker 4>they're going to suck now and it's too long to

0:36:32.600 --> 0:36:34.919
<v Speaker 4>wait need to realize they've been teetering around twenty under

0:36:35.000 --> 0:36:36.640
<v Speaker 4>five hundred for more than a year.

0:36:37.440 --> 0:36:38.799
<v Speaker 2>You got to hope you hit on some of these

0:36:38.840 --> 0:36:39.239
<v Speaker 2>young guys.

0:36:39.280 --> 0:36:41.759
<v Speaker 4>In trust player development five three zero says this is

0:36:41.760 --> 0:36:44.480
<v Speaker 4>the best the pharm system has been in a long time.

0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:47.320
<v Speaker 4>Farhunt's inability to build the farm was his biggest failure.

0:36:47.400 --> 0:36:51.239
<v Speaker 4>It's impressive what Buster has done. Seven oh seven says,

0:36:51.239 --> 0:36:54.440
<v Speaker 4>does trading ramas open up left for Schmidt and Marcella

0:36:54.560 --> 0:36:56.359
<v Speaker 4>Meyer can slide into second full time?

0:36:56.840 --> 0:36:57.439
<v Speaker 2>That's a question.

0:36:57.680 --> 0:37:00.279
<v Speaker 4>Seven oh seven says it's not a full rebuild. It's

0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:02.359
<v Speaker 4>more like the Giants put up a pardon our dust

0:37:02.480 --> 0:37:05.440
<v Speaker 4>sign while they remodel. Nineteen five says I think it's

0:37:05.480 --> 0:37:07.359
<v Speaker 4>good the Giants management did something. I hate to see

0:37:07.400 --> 0:37:08.640
<v Speaker 4>some of these people go, but we got to make

0:37:08.719 --> 0:37:11.239
<v Speaker 4>something change and hopefully things will be more exciting than

0:37:11.320 --> 0:37:11.759
<v Speaker 4>last year.

0:37:11.840 --> 0:37:13.319
<v Speaker 2>I saw that in spring training for the first time.

0:37:13.440 --> 0:37:15.799
<v Speaker 2>Sawba Sabe. He's an exciting player. I saw Basabe too.

0:37:15.960 --> 0:37:16.160
<v Speaker 6>Brother.

0:37:16.200 --> 0:37:19.160
<v Speaker 4>We had another nice night last night. The Sabe bro

0:37:19.920 --> 0:37:23.880
<v Speaker 4>Babe Bi save doing his thing all right. We got calls, Marcus,

0:37:23.920 --> 0:37:27.200
<v Speaker 4>We got calls. Todd in Fresno is first up. Todd,

0:37:27.320 --> 0:37:28.560
<v Speaker 4>you're on with Murphy and Marcus.

0:37:29.080 --> 0:37:29.680
<v Speaker 6>What do you think?

0:37:29.800 --> 0:37:29.960
<v Speaker 10>Man?

0:37:30.000 --> 0:37:31.279
<v Speaker 2>The floor is yours. Hey, what's up?

0:37:31.320 --> 0:37:31.520
<v Speaker 6>Todd?

0:37:32.280 --> 0:37:34.040
<v Speaker 10>Love love being lead off here.

0:37:34.239 --> 0:37:35.200
<v Speaker 4>Thanks for taking my call.

0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:38.560
<v Speaker 6>There's just an inability to develop.

0:37:38.680 --> 0:37:41.239
<v Speaker 11>They need to start looking at and I've said this

0:37:41.400 --> 0:37:43.520
<v Speaker 11>before with other guys, they need to start looking at

0:37:43.560 --> 0:37:44.719
<v Speaker 11>what Tampa Bay does.

0:37:45.360 --> 0:37:48.000
<v Speaker 12>Because Tampa Bay over the last ten years is one

0:37:48.080 --> 0:37:51.480
<v Speaker 12>hundred games over five hundred Jeeze Giants are forty games

0:37:51.560 --> 0:37:55.200
<v Speaker 12>below five hundred with one hundred and seven win season

0:37:55.280 --> 0:37:55.840
<v Speaker 12>in that group.

0:37:55.960 --> 0:37:59.160
<v Speaker 6>Wow. So it's great they got these prospects. But to

0:37:59.200 --> 0:38:00.640
<v Speaker 6>the developments mark because Luciano?

0:38:00.719 --> 0:38:03.480
<v Speaker 11>Is it because the Giants were impatient or maybe somebody

0:38:03.640 --> 0:38:05.920
<v Speaker 11>was able to develop them and give them information that's

0:38:05.960 --> 0:38:07.080
<v Speaker 11>going to allow him to be good?

0:38:08.800 --> 0:38:11.600
<v Speaker 6>I echo Eric Burns was going off yesterday.

0:38:11.719 --> 0:38:14.560
<v Speaker 11>I echo him, you got a right handed pitcher, the

0:38:14.640 --> 0:38:17.520
<v Speaker 11>most common thing you could get for an elite hitter.

0:38:19.239 --> 0:38:21.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, but I listen.

0:38:21.320 --> 0:38:23.600
<v Speaker 4>I love Burns, you, but I cannot understand for the

0:38:23.800 --> 0:38:27.000
<v Speaker 4>life of me why he didn't understand the simple math here.

0:38:27.080 --> 0:38:29.200
<v Speaker 4>The contract was expiring and he wasn't going to re

0:38:29.320 --> 0:38:30.560
<v Speaker 4>sign before testing the market.

0:38:30.840 --> 0:38:31.000
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

0:38:31.520 --> 0:38:33.520
<v Speaker 6>I don't think it's about the contract.

0:38:33.600 --> 0:38:36.400
<v Speaker 11>It's about are you getting elite guys? I mean this

0:38:36.560 --> 0:38:39.080
<v Speaker 11>mayor guy great I pulled up his minor league says,

0:38:39.080 --> 0:38:40.240
<v Speaker 11>you never had one hundred hits.

0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:43.719
<v Speaker 2>In a season, Marcella Meyer, you never had a yes?

0:38:43.880 --> 0:38:46.399
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, Well we talked. We we know the fact

0:38:46.440 --> 0:38:48.359
<v Speaker 4>that we know his bio, but that's not who they

0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:51.200
<v Speaker 4>got for the for a rise. They got Ramon Marquez.

0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:52.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I guess the question is, would you rather have

0:38:53.160 --> 0:38:55.760
<v Speaker 5>nothing in return for Luisa Rice walking away this offseason?

0:38:57.680 --> 0:38:59.439
<v Speaker 6>Well, I mean that's that's a good question.

0:38:59.600 --> 0:39:02.160
<v Speaker 11>Or would you rather build with guys that could flat

0:39:02.200 --> 0:39:02.760
<v Speaker 11>out play?

0:39:02.960 --> 0:39:05.320
<v Speaker 4>Well, here's the pro here's the math problem. And I

0:39:05.400 --> 0:39:07.760
<v Speaker 4>love Burns, but don't you and Todd Todd and Burnsey.

0:39:08.160 --> 0:39:10.239
<v Speaker 4>He wasn't gonna re sign without testing the market, and

0:39:10.320 --> 0:39:11.879
<v Speaker 4>somebody was gonna go give him more.

0:39:12.080 --> 0:39:14.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, you had a chance to resign him.

0:39:16.360 --> 0:39:18.400
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, So you have two.

0:39:18.080 --> 0:39:21.000
<v Speaker 10>Schools of thought, We're gonna buy a team or we're

0:39:21.000 --> 0:39:22.840
<v Speaker 10>going to develop a team. If you look at the

0:39:22.920 --> 0:39:26.520
<v Speaker 10>Dodgers farm system, there's still an last farm system when

0:39:26.600 --> 0:39:28.920
<v Speaker 10>developing players, and they're still buying players.

0:39:29.200 --> 0:39:31.080
<v Speaker 4>Well yeah, I mean, listen, we talked about the Dodgers.

0:39:31.840 --> 0:39:35.120
<v Speaker 4>The Dodgers' economic profile versus any other team in Major

0:39:35.200 --> 0:39:37.280
<v Speaker 4>League Baseball is totally different. First of all, they colonize

0:39:37.280 --> 0:39:39.360
<v Speaker 4>the nation of Japan. Second of all, there is that

0:39:39.480 --> 0:39:42.040
<v Speaker 4>strange bankruptcy ruling that got after them, a court thing

0:39:42.120 --> 0:39:44.759
<v Speaker 4>that allows them to play with more money and flat

0:39:44.800 --> 0:39:47.200
<v Speaker 4>out gigantic market. They've done a brilliant job. They've left

0:39:47.239 --> 0:39:49.600
<v Speaker 4>twenty nine teams in the dust, including the Yankees, you

0:39:49.680 --> 0:39:51.800
<v Speaker 4>know what I mean. So now I'm forever going to

0:39:51.840 --> 0:39:54.160
<v Speaker 4>disagree with you and Burnssey on the Rise one. And

0:39:54.600 --> 0:39:56.200
<v Speaker 4>if yeah, I know, he's a righty. You know who

0:39:56.239 --> 0:39:58.960
<v Speaker 4>else was alrighty? Matt Cain and tim Linsecomb, they were righties.

0:39:59.080 --> 0:39:59.239
<v Speaker 6>You know.

0:39:59.520 --> 0:40:02.600
<v Speaker 4>Johnn Fuscho was already, Jason Schmidt was alrighty. I mean,

0:40:02.719 --> 0:40:05.080
<v Speaker 4>you know, I mean that's I'm not going to denigrate

0:40:05.120 --> 0:40:06.239
<v Speaker 4>a picture because he's a right now.

0:40:06.280 --> 0:40:07.719
<v Speaker 5>No, And I think it just comes down to the

0:40:07.800 --> 0:40:10.400
<v Speaker 5>fact that Luisa Rise was on an expiring contract, just

0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:13.080
<v Speaker 5>like Robbie Ray. This is the same situation we just

0:40:13.160 --> 0:40:15.480
<v Speaker 5>went through it Blake SNeW and Carlos Rodon and many

0:40:15.600 --> 0:40:18.680
<v Speaker 5>others who walked away with absolutely nothing in return. The

0:40:18.800 --> 0:40:20.919
<v Speaker 5>Giants still have the possibility if they want to shell

0:40:20.920 --> 0:40:23.520
<v Speaker 5>at some money this offseason and maybe give out a

0:40:23.560 --> 0:40:25.880
<v Speaker 5>pitch to bring Louise Rise back, but they were not

0:40:25.960 --> 0:40:28.640
<v Speaker 5>going to work out a contract extension this season, which

0:40:28.680 --> 0:40:30.399
<v Speaker 5>is why you make a move when you're eighteen games

0:40:30.440 --> 0:40:33.239
<v Speaker 5>under five hundred. Anyway, Todd will agree to disagreebody, Thanks

0:40:33.239 --> 0:40:34.239
<v Speaker 5>for the call. We appreciate it.

0:40:34.280 --> 0:40:38.399
<v Speaker 4>Bruce, and Palo Alto is next, Bruce, Good morning, all right, man.

0:40:39.040 --> 0:40:40.279
<v Speaker 6>Hey guys, hey guys.

0:40:40.920 --> 0:40:43.239
<v Speaker 9>I like the deals that were made, and I've seen

0:40:43.320 --> 0:40:49.000
<v Speaker 9>the trade grades from a publication like the Athletic. They're

0:40:49.000 --> 0:40:52.080
<v Speaker 9>all a's or a MIAs is, except for maybe the

0:40:52.640 --> 0:40:53.600
<v Speaker 9>Tyler Marley trade.

0:40:53.680 --> 0:40:56.279
<v Speaker 6>But so that's all good. I looked at this.

0:40:56.480 --> 0:40:58.680
<v Speaker 9>If I was talking old Harry Bears, I'd call it

0:40:58.920 --> 0:41:01.880
<v Speaker 9>a refresh. If need to still on, call it a rebuild.

0:41:03.040 --> 0:41:06.400
<v Speaker 9>But the reason I called though, is because a relief

0:41:06.480 --> 0:41:09.960
<v Speaker 9>pitcher is something, A major league relief pitcher something I

0:41:10.120 --> 0:41:14.200
<v Speaker 9>was hoping they would acquire yesterday. And there were a

0:41:14.239 --> 0:41:16.719
<v Speaker 9>couple of guys, Zephyr John of the Angels, who's got

0:41:16.760 --> 0:41:20.959
<v Speaker 9>almost fourteen k's per nine, and Brazil Bond of the Mets,

0:41:21.160 --> 0:41:25.320
<v Speaker 9>who went in deals, and yeah, it would have cost something,

0:41:25.400 --> 0:41:28.520
<v Speaker 9>would probably cost one of their terrific young outfielders in

0:41:28.560 --> 0:41:32.359
<v Speaker 9>the minor leagues, maybe a pitcher. But don't you think

0:41:32.440 --> 0:41:36.360
<v Speaker 9>that going into next season, the buster, he's going to

0:41:36.400 --> 0:41:39.799
<v Speaker 9>have to he's under the gun now between a rock

0:41:39.840 --> 0:41:42.520
<v Speaker 9>and a heart. Place to bring in an established reliever,

0:41:42.680 --> 0:41:46.200
<v Speaker 9>you can't count on Rodriguez coming back from a serious

0:41:46.280 --> 0:41:50.080
<v Speaker 9>injury as being the guy right from the get go.

0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:51.279
<v Speaker 6>What do you guys think about that?

0:41:51.400 --> 0:41:53.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Bruce, thanks for the call, man, appreciate because we've

0:41:53.080 --> 0:41:54.640
<v Speaker 4>got to get the Inntebagul into a second now. I

0:41:54.680 --> 0:41:56.960
<v Speaker 4>think you're right, certainly, but picking up one of those

0:41:57.000 --> 0:42:00.560
<v Speaker 4>major league ready relievers right now would be a win move.

0:42:00.920 --> 0:42:03.680
<v Speaker 4>And I think what we're learning is they ain't gonna

0:42:03.719 --> 0:42:07.360
<v Speaker 4>win now. They're planning for twenty eight, twenty nine, thirty.

0:42:08.000 --> 0:42:09.719
<v Speaker 4>That's the fact of the matter is. And so some

0:42:09.880 --> 0:42:12.920
<v Speaker 4>of these guys they picked up, whether it's Miguel Mendez,

0:42:13.120 --> 0:42:15.840
<v Speaker 4>or whether it's Anthony Molina, or whether it's you know,

0:42:16.040 --> 0:42:21.120
<v Speaker 4>some of these Marty Jaiere are hoped for bullpen arms

0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:23.040
<v Speaker 4>down the road. So I think picking up a major

0:42:23.120 --> 0:42:24.640
<v Speaker 4>league ready reliever now would be more of a win

0:42:24.719 --> 0:42:26.359
<v Speaker 4>now move. The Giants aren't looking to win now.

0:42:26.480 --> 0:42:29.680
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Bryce, or excuse me, Bruce is correct. There's no

0:42:29.880 --> 0:42:32.800
<v Speaker 5>question the Giants need to address or bullpen issues next season.

0:42:33.000 --> 0:42:35.400
<v Speaker 5>They're just not in a position to make an offer

0:42:35.520 --> 0:42:38.239
<v Speaker 5>to add a reliever that can help them win right now. Yes,

0:42:38.400 --> 0:42:41.000
<v Speaker 5>Randy Rodrigue should make his return. Jose Boutel as well.

0:42:41.160 --> 0:42:43.200
<v Speaker 5>They need more help. They just could not make that

0:42:43.360 --> 0:42:45.799
<v Speaker 5>type of deal. They weren't buyers, they were seld They're

0:42:45.800 --> 0:42:46.160
<v Speaker 5>gonna have.

0:42:46.200 --> 0:42:47.200
<v Speaker 2>To spend in the market.

0:42:47.239 --> 0:42:50.520
<v Speaker 4>Will be expensive, but they're gonna have to And yeah, correct,

0:42:50.600 --> 0:42:53.520
<v Speaker 4>that remains a thing for sure. All right, listen, look

0:42:53.520 --> 0:42:56.520
<v Speaker 4>at the clock. We got Andy Bagley got the expert

0:42:56.600 --> 0:42:58.480
<v Speaker 4>view from the press box. This guy, you know, man,

0:42:58.560 --> 0:43:00.799
<v Speaker 4>he wrote a really scathing piece over the weekend about

0:43:00.840 --> 0:43:03.799
<v Speaker 4>how the Giants have handled their pitching this year, calling

0:43:03.880 --> 0:43:06.279
<v Speaker 4>out Vitello message and Frank Anderson, we can talk to

0:43:06.360 --> 0:43:07.920
<v Speaker 4>him about that and does he think that the Giants

0:43:07.920 --> 0:43:10.040
<v Speaker 4>did enough to stock their pitching prospects?

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