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Speaker 1: Now back on Greg Papa and Greg Silver on KNBR

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Speaker 1: the Sports Leaders.

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Speaker 2: Happy Friday. Thanks for spending your time with us. It

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Speaker 2: is Greg Silver, John Dickinson, Waltzer Ecobell set hanging out

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Speaker 2: with you. We'll get our first hit of the baseball

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Speaker 2: season with Andy Baggerley coming up in about half an hour.

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Speaker 2: But it was great to catch up with Matt Barrows

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Speaker 2: spend some time down in Phoenix, and yeah, I can

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Speaker 2: imagine the contrast of being in somewhere like Denver right

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Speaker 2: now or the Midwest and Phoenix sports already hitting triple digits,

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Speaker 2: nice and dry, so we all still got a little

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Speaker 2: bit of winter skin. But the Bay Area has been

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Speaker 2: awesome weather wise. I mean, we've had like three weeks

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Speaker 2: this week and we're right back to some daily city suns.

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Speaker 2: So we're all feeling good as we head into the weekend.

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Speaker 2: All right, less than three weeks now until the NFL Draft,

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Speaker 2: So there's gonna be what you said.

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Speaker 3: We do have some we have some breaking news I

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Speaker 3: apologize for, and we'll get back into the into the

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Speaker 3: forty nine ers here, but just quick breaking news via

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Speaker 3: Shams and again we've known this has been trending in

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Speaker 3: this direction. But Warriors star Stephan Curry expected to be

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Speaker 3: cleared to return on Sunday against the Houston Rockets after

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Speaker 3: missing the last twenty seven games. Again that per the

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Speaker 3: ESPN fellas shams and of course Anthony Slater. Steph expected

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Speaker 3: to be cleared to return on Sunday against the Rockets.

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Speaker 3: Hasn't played since January the thirtieth. So a little bit

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Speaker 3: of Dubs breaking news here in the twelve o'clock hour.

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Speaker 2: I was going to ask you, because you're so good

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Speaker 2: with the dates. It was January the thirtieth that Pistons game,

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Speaker 2: right when he had the knee, and then they were

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Speaker 2: convince the training staff to play. So this was the

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Speaker 2: kind of thing that was leading up, But man, I

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Speaker 2: did not expect it to get all the way up

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Speaker 2: to twenty seven games here and Arrior seam pretty you

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Speaker 2: know set in the ten seed. Not official. I think

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Speaker 2: there were three back of the Clippers with five to go,

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Speaker 2: but they're more likely than not either going to be

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Speaker 2: going to Portland or LA.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's looking more and more like it might

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Speaker 3: be LA as Portland has moved in front of LA

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Speaker 3: and again we don't have to get into the play

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Speaker 3: and standings. Those two teams play each other again. Portland

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Speaker 3: and LA do coming up a week from tonight in Portland.

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Speaker 3: But all of a sudden, all of a sudden, you

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Speaker 3: look up and Portland has moved in front and is

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Speaker 4: So the ramp up is real.

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Speaker 3: I would expect, I know, been a little little concerning

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Speaker 3: to say, do you really want to bring him back

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Speaker 3: the Rockets that you know it is truly going to

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Speaker 3: test him.

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Speaker 4: But if he's ready, he's ready.

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Speaker 3: And that's been the refrain from Steve curR even last

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Speaker 3: night in the pregame press conference, like, once he's ready,

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Speaker 3: he's ready. It doesn't matter the opponent, it doesn't matter

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Speaker 3: how injury depleted the rest of the roster is. None

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Speaker 3: of that stuff matters, and so it gives Steph what

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Speaker 3: I would imagine is a three to four game ramp

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Speaker 3: to be on April to fifteenth. They'll get the game

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Speaker 3: then you figure out where you're at for the finale

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Speaker 3: You know, a little bit of light work in that

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Speaker 3: with still two days in between that game on Sunday

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Speaker 3: now and whenever that that season ends. Can you imagine

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Speaker 3: to play the Oklahoma City Thunder, even if even if

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Speaker 2: Before you even got there with that thought process, I

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Speaker 2: coming back, Because once the Moses Moody injury happened, that

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Speaker 2: just reset for twenty twenty six, twenty twenty seven, because damn,

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Speaker 2: that was something that impacted your plans that were going

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Speaker 2: if We're being completely honest about it. If the Warriors

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Speaker 2: Porzingis is a part of it. The best thing they

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Speaker 2: if that means going to war and getting out there

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Speaker 4: And I'll ask you this.

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Speaker 3: The playoffs, the pick's going to be fifteen, and there's

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Speaker 3: But that would also, if you're a veteran player, increase

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Speaker 3: let's move that pick to try to get some help in.

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Speaker 3: That would maybe create this last dance scenario. And I

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Speaker 3: know Tim kaal Kami, our friend, has hinted more here

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Speaker 3: It truly is setting up like a last dance scenario

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And look, Steve had that quote last night when

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Speaker 2: defensive nights when he is locked in. James Harden and

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Speaker 2: We've seen it happen when it's Victor Webbin Yama and

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Speaker 2: other big matchups. I also do wonder if Steph wanting

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Speaker 2: do it for Draymond and how he's been available during

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Speaker 3: No question, and so I think Draymond. Draymond's also played better,

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Speaker 3: Draymond was very much maligned, I think really up until

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Speaker 3: look to trade him. I don't think the Warriors are

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Speaker 3: thinking that at all as it relates to Draymond. I

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Speaker 3: this team, whether it's trading draft capital or trying to

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Speaker 3: Lebron or a Kawhi if you can. If not, maybe

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Speaker 4: I think the Tels are in play. They're gonna look

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Speaker 3: necessarily think that the that the thought process has to

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Speaker 3: change on it.

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Speaker 2: That's interesting, and I think you can bring up good

438
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Speaker 2: points on the benefit of the doubt, because that is

439
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Speaker 2: one area where I'm with you. I'm going to give

440
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Speaker 2: the forty nine ers more benefit of the doubt on

441
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Speaker 2: the offensive line philosophy than I would in other areas.

442
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Speaker 2: I guess where I'm getting pushed a little bit more

443
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Speaker 2: in the other direction, and kind of where Todd Husack

444
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Speaker 2: was saying is you can look at the data and

445
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Speaker 2: also understand that aside from just the playoff game, aside

446
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Speaker 2: from just what the La Rams have as a strength

447
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Speaker 2: with their defensive line, you also got to look at

448
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,359
Speaker 2: ways in which you won and lost games last season.

449
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Speaker 2: And you know, brock Perty is someone that missed eight games,

450
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Speaker 2: and he's someone that I don't really want to say

451
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Speaker 2: injury prone, but he's not the biggest quarterback, and he

452
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Speaker 2: has missed a variety of time with injuries in his

453
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Speaker 2: young career already. So he missed half the season, you

454
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Speaker 2: really want to think about making sure you can protect him.

455
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Speaker 2: And to Brock's credit, though, he makes a lot of

456
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Speaker 2: use of the mobility and the quick ten yard split

457
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Speaker 2: by getting out of some tricky situations. And as great

458
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Speaker 2: as Christian McCaffrey was for you last season, they were

459
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Speaker 2: averaging three point eight yards of carry either himself or

460
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Speaker 2: as a team on the ground, like they could not

461
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Speaker 2: really get the running game going. So I think about

462
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Speaker 2: both of those elements too, and I'm like, if I'm

463
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Speaker 2: thinking about a puzzle piece that could take your offense

464
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Speaker 2: to another level. Getting Mike Evins certainly was a massive plus,

465
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Speaker 2: and if he can give you a healthy thirteen or

466
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Speaker 2: more games, that would be awesome for you. Getting that

467
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Speaker 2: interior offensive line figured out, both for your starting quarterbacks sake,

468
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Speaker 2: who's got a lot of money on the books coming up,

469
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Speaker 2: and for the running game's sake, which unlike most Kyle

470
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Speaker 2: Shanahan teams really wasn't getting going this year. That's why

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Speaker 2: I look at it a little bit differently here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'm less inclined to believe that they're

473
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Speaker 3: going to be looking at a receiver. It just it

474
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Speaker 3: seems like unless there's something going on with Ricky Piersol

475
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Speaker 3: to where maybe they would consider moving on from Ricky Piersall.

476
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Speaker 3: I just and again, they do tend to historically draft

477
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Speaker 3: a year ahead of you know, positionally of areas in

478
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Speaker 3: which they think they're going to have to fill you know,

479
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Speaker 3: phil needs. And but I look at I look at Evans,

480
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Speaker 3: and I look at Kirk and and I look at

481
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Speaker 3: them having Pearsall and I, you know, with with Jordan

482
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Speaker 3: Watkins and even Jacob Cowing, who I don't think you

483
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Speaker 3: can necessarily count on until he proves otherwise, Yeah, coming

484
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Speaker 3: into twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 4: But I I look at I look at Evans, I.

486
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Speaker 3: Look at I look at Pearsaw, I look at Kirk,

487
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Speaker 3: and I think to myself, are they really gonna go

488
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Speaker 3: get another guy in the first round that winds up

489
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Speaker 3: being sort of that fourth guy, uh to where you

490
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Speaker 3: almost have more more players than you do, you know,

491
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Speaker 3: spots on the field as far as you know, playing

492
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Speaker 3: time goes. So I'm less inclined unless they're gonna look

493
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Speaker 3: to do something maybe with pearsall in terms of a trade.

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Speaker 3: To think that they're gonna go wide receiver. Again, maybe

495
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Speaker 3: I'm wrong on that. It really does seem to me

496
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Speaker 3: like they're looking at at edge slash defensive line.

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Speaker 4: With that. With that first eight to.

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Speaker 2: Way, K and BR is the number to join the conversation.

499
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Speaker 2: But before we get back into your calls and texts

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Speaker 2: and chat, Andy Baggerley of the Athletic is gonna stop by.

501
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Speaker 2: We'll talk to him next and we'll do it every

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Speaker 2: Friday throughout the baseball season. It's Papa and Silver with

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Speaker 2: JD on the sports Leader, Greig.

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Speaker 1: And Greg, Kapa and Silver. This is K ANDBR the

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Speaker 1: sports Leader.

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Speaker 2: We're getting into the Friday swing of things in every

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Speaker 2: Friday here throughout the rest of the baseball season, we'll

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Speaker 2: be talking to the Athletics Andy Baggerly. It is great

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Speaker 2: to have him on the UMA guest line. Greg Silver,

510
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Speaker 2: John Dickinson with you for another hour and ten or so,

511
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Speaker 2: and then we'll send it out to the ballpark where

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Speaker 2: dirty work is going to be on the Patio at

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Speaker 2: fifty eight Social Bag's good to talk to you. We

514
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Speaker 2: had a crazy chaos of opening week and now we're

515
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Speaker 2: finally trying to settle in. And I think the Giants

516
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Speaker 2: two are trying to get a little bit of normalcy going,

517
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Speaker 2: like we've seen them in the doing the last four nights,

518
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Speaker 2: win in three out of four.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, obviously they didn't get off to the

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Speaker 5: start they wanted to, especially in front of their home

521
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Speaker 5: fans against the Yankees. Tas some really good pitching in

522
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Speaker 5: that series, and needed a little time to settle in,

523
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Speaker 5: new manager and everything. But now Tony Vtello's got his

524
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Speaker 5: first win out of the way. He's got his first

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Speaker 5: home win out of the way. Really nice to see.

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Speaker 5: Not only like Louis rise get two hits in an

527
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Speaker 5: RBA triple off the arcade and Raphiel Deveres hit his

528
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Speaker 5: first homer. But you know, Daniel Sussac, you know, has

529
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Speaker 5: to wait around to get make his major league debut,

530
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Speaker 5: but he's certainly ready for it when he does. And

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Speaker 5: Blade Tidwell comes out of the bullpen gives him a

532
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Speaker 5: lift where a day earlier they were pretty down after

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Speaker 5: losing Jose Bouteau and worried about him. So really good

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Speaker 5: way to start the homestand it's you know, two really

535
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Speaker 5: good teams with the Mets and Phillies coming in. So yeah,

536
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Speaker 5: they definitely have a little bit of mojo going right now.

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Speaker 3: All right, So the question bags of the day here is,

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Speaker 3: you know what, do you believe this team is closer

539
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Speaker 3: to the team we've seen in the last four days

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00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 3: with the three of four as opposed to the team

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Speaker 3: that we saw the first three games against the Yankees,

542
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Speaker 3: or is it all kind of adding up to be

543
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Speaker 3: as they sit here still three and four, a different

544
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Speaker 3: version of the same or at least similar to what

545
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Speaker 3: we've seen in twenty two, twenty three, twenty four, and

546
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Speaker 3: twenty five with different players, different managers. But that gravitational

547
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Speaker 3: pull to five hundred both ways has been really real

548
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Speaker 3: for this Giant's team here.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean, you know, I guess the simplest, most

550
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Speaker 5: boring answer is we got to kind of wait to

551
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Speaker 5: find that out. Like in the aggregate, you know, what

552
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Speaker 5: is this team all about? I think we can look

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Speaker 5: at things like, you know, the bullpen's pitch better than

554
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Speaker 5: I think maybe we had thought that they would, you know,

555
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Speaker 5: take time to settle into roles and it might might

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Speaker 5: be some hiccups early, and I'm sure there will be,

557
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Speaker 5: but you know, thus far, I think you'd have to

558
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Speaker 5: be pretty encouraged with the bullpen performance you look at.

559
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Speaker 5: You know, everybody in the starting rotation has looked pretty good.

560
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Speaker 5: The only guy who's really kind of scuffled of that

561
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Speaker 5: is Logan Web coming off the w SEE, which he

562
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Speaker 5: says has an impacted him. But you know, Robbie Raised

563
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 5: looked really good landon Rupe with terrific Adrian Houser had

564
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 5: a nice first start, uh and Tyler Mulley as well.

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Speaker 5: So the pitching side, I think you've got to feel

566
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Speaker 5: pretty good about it. And and the hitting. You know,

567
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 5: this is a lineup that is, you know, full of

568
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Speaker 5: everyday guys, and they're going to go as those guys go.

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Speaker 5: And you know it's maybe Rophildevers isn't off to quite

570
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 5: the start he'd like to be, Willie Damas has had

571
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Speaker 5: one really good game and and and then a lot

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Speaker 5: of frustration. But you know, this is a team that

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Speaker 5: they think is going to score, and you know, if

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Speaker 5: this team can score, and I do think that one

575
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Speaker 5: of the barometers I'm looking at is. I think they

576
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Speaker 5: have to whatever the league average ends up being in

577
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 5: runs per game, four point one, full point, whatever it is,

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Speaker 5: the Giants need to be north of that. I think

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Speaker 5: if if they are struggling to score runs, it's going

580
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Speaker 5: to be a long season because there are days where

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Speaker 5: they're going to have to score six, seven, eight months.

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Speaker 5: But thus far, I think you're looking at it. You know,

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Speaker 5: it's too really to really make any any critical evaluations,

584
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Speaker 5: but there are a lot of positives in terms of

585
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Speaker 5: some of the areas where you thought might be troublespots.

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Speaker 2: Just with you bags. I told JD earlier in the

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Speaker 2: show that Tony Vitello one of the interesting observations is

588
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 2: he has put a lot of trust in his guys

589
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 2: and using the same combinations of people, but also tinkering

590
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 2: around the order. And we've seen Casey Schmidt play a

591
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 2: lot of first base because at Devers and how he's

592
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 2: managed the bullpen right, and so there's a lot of trust.

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Speaker 2: But at the same time, he's not afraid to have

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Speaker 2: a quick trigger in terms of making small changes. What

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Speaker 2: have you made of the fact that he's messed around

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Speaker 2: with the lineups a little bit like when Willie Damas

597
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 2: was leading off and Arise was hit and forth. I

598
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 2: was thinking, that's kind of weird, but hey, weird ended

599
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 2: up working. And so now we're seeing a lot of

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Speaker 2: small changes here just in a seven game sample size.

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Speaker 5: Well, and you never want to overreact, right, But the

602
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 5: reason that he's managing this team and that Bob Melbourne

603
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 5: isn't managing this team is because when the Giants got

604
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Speaker 5: in funks, they just took way too long to get

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Speaker 5: themselves out of it. And Tony Vitello was here because

606
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Speaker 5: Buster Posey zach Manassian felt that this guy was going

607
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Speaker 5: to be a catalyst. He was going to be an

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Speaker 5: action guy who you know, would would kind of give

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Speaker 5: everyone a sense of urgency and and and wouldn't kind

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Speaker 5: of just like let things happen to them, which is

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Speaker 5: you know, it comes off sounding like a criticism of

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Speaker 5: Bob Melvin. It's not meant to be, uh, you know,

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Speaker 5: I think you know, Bob is obviously won two thousand

614
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Speaker 5: games in the big leagues and as one Manager of

615
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 5: the Year three times for a reason. I mean, there's

616
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Speaker 5: there are teams that really just need that sort of

617
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Speaker 5: steady hand on the wheel. And last year maybe the

618
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,239
Speaker 5: Giants needed something a little bit different. And so you know,

619
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Speaker 5: you have one run in your first three games against

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Speaker 5: the Yankees and and facing some really good pitching, and

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Speaker 5: you know they could roll the same lineup out there,

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Speaker 5: but you know, you get Willie Domas leading off, and

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Speaker 5: and and you have Lewis Rise who's not really kind

624
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Speaker 5: of a pro a typical cleanup hitter, but you kind

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Speaker 5: of like him with runs on bass because he can

626
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Speaker 5: put the ball in play. And they tried something different

627
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Speaker 5: and it you know, it's it hasn't worked one hundred

628
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Speaker 5: percent of the time, but they definitely had some more

629
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Speaker 5: traffic on the basis more opportunities. So, you know, and

630
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Speaker 5: we talk about the lineup, and I think line up

631
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Speaker 5: has talked to death. You know. It's one of those

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Speaker 5: things that they're going to use a hundred different lineups

633
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Speaker 5: this year, you know, so I try not to get

634
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Speaker 5: too granular on those things. But you know, it was

635
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Speaker 5: a pretty big move to put a Damas in the

636
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Speaker 5: leadoff spot because he's only hit there two or three

637
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Speaker 5: times in his career. So so yeah, it was definitely

638
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 5: an out of the box thought and it's worked out

639
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Speaker 5: pretty decent so far well.

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Speaker 3: And It's interesting too, because I mean a Damas As

641
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Speaker 3: you mentioned, had the He's had the one, the one

642
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Speaker 3: big game and a lot of frustration. But sometimes an

643
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Speaker 3: individual may not necessarily benefit from being shifted in a lineup,

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Speaker 3: but the entire group can can be more productive. And

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Speaker 3: that's that's been the case here over these these last

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Speaker 3: four days. The group, it just looks looks like it

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Speaker 3: flows better with with the way that he's been more

648
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Speaker 3: more prone to do it here since moving a Damas

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Speaker 3: into that leadoff spot.

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, and the bottom of the lineup has been producing.

651
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 5: Daniels Susk was on base four times. I mean that

652
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 5: really helps. And you know, I guarantee you they would

653
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 5: they will take every day of the season. They will

654
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 5: take Willia Damas coming to bat with seven runners on

655
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 5: base in his first three plate appearances or first four

656
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 5: plate appearances, and especially from the leadoff spot. And yeah,

657
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 5: he didn't drive any of them in. He had kind

658
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 5: of a miserable game with you know, three strikeouts, the

659
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 5: GIDP and a challenge that didn't go his way. So

660
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 5: that's when you just want to wash off. But you know,

661
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 5: they obviously they really think a lot of Willia Damas

662
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 5: they sign him for that big deal, and he hit

663
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 5: thirty homers last year, and if that's the kind of

664
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 5: opportunities he's going to get every single game, they'll take

665
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 5: that every day of the year.

666
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 2: It's not going to Andy Baggerley on the Uma guest line.

667
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 2: So for Daniel Susack, that was a big story last night,

668
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 2: him going three for three, getting on base four times.

669
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 2: How much his family loved watching that in person. Do

670
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 2: you think we could see him mixed in more frequently

671
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 2: in a way that could also help preserve Patrick Bailey, Like,

672
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to overreact to the one game sample

673
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 2: size of Daniel Sussack, but where I do think it

674
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 2: is fair to react is that we've seen Bailey struggle

675
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 2: at the plate, particularly as we get over the hump

676
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 2: into the second half of the season. And if Susak

677
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 2: can routinely produce, even if not at the degree to

678
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 2: which we saw last night, that could be something that

679
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 2: provides a benefit to both catchers.

680
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, one hundred percent, I think that. I think there's

681
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 5: gonna be a lot of momentum to start Susack against lefties.

682
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 5: You know, not long ago that was Tom Murphy's role.

683
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 5: That's why they signed him to be that guy. And

684
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 5: this is a guy who was a first round pick

685
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 5: of the A's, you know, not necessarily because he was

686
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 5: a great, you know, defender behind the playbofs he was

687
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 5: mostly a bat first catcher. So and he's really come

688
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 5: along and made nice strides defensively, so they feel good

689
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 5: about that part of it. But and you know, I

690
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 5: really don't mean for this to be a knock on anyone,

691
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,239
Speaker 5: but you know, we saw, like a couple of years ago,

692
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 5: they tried to use someone like Blake Sable as a

693
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 5: bat first catcher and he just didn't have the catching

694
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 5: skills in the big leagues. You know, a lot of

695
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 5: pitchers were asked to make a lot of sacrifices to

696
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 5: work with him, and he just just didn't develop the

697
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 5: proficiency defensively. A heck of a good guy. Wish him well.

698
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 5: He's with the Raised organization now hopefully his bad gets

699
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 5: him back to the big league. But you compare that

700
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 5: against what they have now with Daniels Susak, and it's

701
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 5: night and day. I mean, you know, this guy looks

702
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 5: like he could play a big role on the team.

703
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 5: And I'll tell you what, if they get to a

704
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,959
Speaker 5: place where you know, they decide it's redundant to have

705
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 5: costs in Schmid on the roster, or they decide to

706
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 5: need a little more versatility on the bench, and Hasus

707
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 5: Rodriguez is you know, hitting you know, three p fifty

708
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 5: at triple A. All of a sudden you put him

709
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 5: on the roster and you got someone who could be

710
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 5: a third catcher back there. That frees you up to

711
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 5: use Susack's bat, not just as you know, a backup catcher,

712
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 5: but you know, maybe even as a DH sometimes or

713
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,959
Speaker 5: more actively used as a pinch hitter. So we may

714
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 5: see that configuration before long. And you know, the best

715
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 5: way the players make the decision for you is by performing.

716
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 5: And certainly I think Del Sussack deserve himself another start

717
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 5: against the next lected the Giants space.

718
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 4: Without question.

719
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 3: Now, Andy Baggerley joining us here on these sports Leader,

720
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 3: what are some other ways you envision Tony Vaitello being

721
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 3: able to use the bench more. I know that was

722
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 3: a big topic of discussion, maybe too much for for

723
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 3: my likeing of the first three four days of the season,

724
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 3: but we've seen the speed of Oliva. I mean you

725
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,720
Speaker 3: mentioned Christian costs like at what spots do you think

726
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 3: over time the Giants will be more open to giving

727
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 3: some other players off the bench some run, maybe in

728
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 3: lessening some of the some of the reliance on on

729
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 3: the guys that are the everyday guys. Right now, we know,

730
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 3: we know it's not Chapman or Devers or Adamis or

731
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 3: those guys. But are there are there spots where you

732
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 3: think there could be and maybe catchers obviously one of

733
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 3: them a little bit more of a h you know,

734
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 3: balance of let's give some guys off the bench an

735
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 3: opportunity to see what they can do well.

736
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 5: One thing that's really going to help is when Rothfield

737
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 5: Devers plays first base again, which you know probably is

738
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 5: going to be by the end of this next road trip.

739
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 5: They're being very very cautious with that, and he is

740
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 5: taking early work. He's kind of ramping back up, you know,

741
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 5: with missing a little time with the hamstring and spring training.

742
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 5: So once they can get him back at first base,

743
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 5: now all of a sudden, jar In Cornossion has an

744
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,399
Speaker 5: opportunity on this team where right now he's just kind

745
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 5: of frozen out and everyone feels kind of bad about that.

746
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 5: He's just had one pinch hitting appearance. But like you said,

747
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 5: I mean the first pinch hitting appearance of the season

748
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 5: came in the sixth game. The only time that I

749
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 5: tell he used his bench against the Yankees was to

750
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 5: pinch run Oliver for Adamus in the ninth inning of

751
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 5: the last game. So, yeah, you want to try to

752
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,919
Speaker 5: incorporate as much of the roster as early as you can.

753
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 5: That was always Bruce Bochi was big on that. For

754
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 5: Lup Baylu was big on that. Dusty was big on that.

755
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 5: You don't want someone sitting around cool on their heels,

756
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 5: waiting to get involved or get some dirt in their

757
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 5: cleats in the first week of the season, especially when

758
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 5: you're su second, you're waiting for making your major league

759
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 5: debut with with your whole family in toe, you know,

760
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 5: waiting every game. So they got that out of the way.

761
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 5: Everybody has played, but obviously the bench has been a

762
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 5: little underutilized so far. And you know what, it's going

763
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 5: to be a little bit of a challenge for someone

764
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 5: like Christian Costs because Willie Damas plays every day, Matt

765
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 5: Chapman plays every day. Maybe there are going to be

766
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 5: some times when Devers goes back to first base, they

767
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 5: can give a Rise a day off his feet and

768
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 5: start Costs at second base, or Schmidt at second base

769
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 5: and arises DH. So yeah, they have some ways they

770
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 5: can go, but I think that, you know, it's really

771
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,439
Speaker 5: gonna kind of open things up when Devers can play

772
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 5: first base again, which which should happen soon.

773
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 2: What was going through your mind when you saw Ryan

774
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 2: Walker trot out there to replace Robbie Ray. I know

775
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,240
Speaker 2: Tony Veitelo explained the reasoning behind it after the game,

776
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 2: but one of those elephants in the room is also

777
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 2: the closer position. And Ryan Walker in his one save

778
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 2: opportunity so far, you know, it was a little bit shaky.

779
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 2: He did get the save, but also gave up a

780
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 2: two run bomb and got a little bit of a

781
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 2: break when Tatis didn't challenge what could have been ball

782
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 2: three instead of strike two. So you know, what was

783
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 2: your thought just sitting there and ingesting it in real time?

784
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, the four pitch walk really to start a three

785
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 5: to nothing ninth inning is probably even worse than the

786
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,240
Speaker 5: home run. Really, but he got it, throw strikes and

787
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 5: and you know, look he's he's you know, feeling it

788
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 5: a little bit. He's he's got some pressure on him,

789
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 5: and he needs to establish himself again. He knows that

790
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 5: he's he said all the right things and was very

791
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 5: determined in spring training, had a really nice interview with

792
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 5: Sergio Romo, who talked with him a lot during his

793
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 5: week as a guest instructor. And it's going to be

794
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 5: the easiest thing for everybody if Ryan Walker can re

795
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 5: establish himself as a closer on this team. But there's

796
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 5: a reason they didn't name him the closer. They don't

797
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 5: want to, you know, have him struggle and then have

798
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 5: to walk it back and it comes off like a failure.

799
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 5: I mean, they really want him to to basically do

800
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 5: like what Denial Susak did. You get the opportunity, you

801
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 5: earn the ne next opportunity. And I think that he's

802
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 5: on board with that. He doesn't have a sense of

803
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 5: entitlement at all. And that was the situation where, you know,

804
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 5: they thought that sixth thenning was pretty important, you know

805
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 5: that to you know, get the the next two hitters out.

806
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 5: I believe it was Robert and it was the mets

807
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 5: of five six hitters before you get to the bottom

808
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 5: part of the lineup. So they wanted Walker to face

809
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 5: those guys, not necessarily the seventy eight nine guys, So

810
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 5: that shows a little bit of faith. But yeah, you

811
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 5: know they're they're Tony by Tello said afterwards, he doesn't

812
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 5: really believe in roles. Now, I think that he's gonna

813
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 5: learn that Major league believers believe in roles and they

814
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 5: like to have a better idea when they're coming in.

815
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 5: So there might be some give and take on that

816
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 5: over time, but it really is very much open. They're

817
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 5: gonna read and react to how these guys look when

818
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 5: they throw them out there. And you know, thus bark

819
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 5: Heaton Winn has looked terrific, Kleb Keilly and has looked

820
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 5: really good. And Blade saidwell, I mean we saw him

821
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 5: in spring training and he throws strikes with that slider.

822
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 5: I mean it's a nasty pitch. It's a Robinan slider.

823
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 5: So yeah, he could be a guy that factors in

824
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 5: late in games as well.

825
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting to your point on roles.

826
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 3: You better have success if you don't believe in roles,

827
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 3: because because guys tend to not buy in quickly if

828
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 3: there isn't a level of success, and to this point,

829
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 3: the group overall has been pretty good. If it's not

830
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 3: Ryan Walker bags who would get the first next opportunity

831
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 3: to be the closer in your mind, among among who

832
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 3: they have.

833
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 5: I mean, it sounds like they're going to be very

834
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 5: matchup oriented. So if they've got a pocket of lefties

835
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 5: in the ninth, it may be Eric Miller, you know,

836
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,399
Speaker 5: it may be killing or win. I don't think they're

837
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 5: really married to anybody or there there really is a

838
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 5: pecking order at this point. It's just everybody be ready

839
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 5: to pitch at any time. And uh, that's that's kind

840
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 5: of the the the environment that Tony Vaitela was coaches

841
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 5: want to kind of establish here. It's just, hey, I

842
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,919
Speaker 5: want you to want the ball in every situation. That's

843
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 5: the way he put it last night. And I mean

844
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 5: that sounds great, it really does. And if you can

845
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 5: foster that, uh, then you know that's that's a mark

846
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 5: of a of a good team, a good team with

847
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 5: some good sort of u you know, bonha me. But

848
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 5: but you know, relievers generally like to have a pretty

849
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 5: good idea of when they're going to pitch. I mean

850
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 5: that's just sort of been true throughout the history of

851
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,720
Speaker 5: the game. So I do think that it'll be easier

852
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 5: on everybody, including the manager if if people do end

853
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 5: up sort of slotting into roles, and you know, again

854
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 5: the decision has become easy if guys perform.

855
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 3: How impressive was was Keaton win against the Padres and

856
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 3: the game where he comes in he strikes out the side.

857
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 3: He's off to a good start, and what what's your

858
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 3: sense for how the Giants view him in terms of

859
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 3: making the switch from being a starter to a reliever

860
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 3: and the ability.

861
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,240
Speaker 4: I mean, he looked really dominant.

862
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 3: You don't want to overreact to one game, good or bad,

863
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 3: or a couple of games good or bad, but but

864
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 3: he did look like it popped to everyone watching, Hey,

865
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 3: this looks like future closer stuff, even if maybe we

866
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 3: need to pump the brakes on that a little bit

867
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 3: because it's it's so soon.

868
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, and let's not forget that he's doing

869
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 5: this for the first time, right, so pitching on back

870
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 5: to back days. You know, how he recovers, We don't

871
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 5: know at all how he's gonna be with that, if

872
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 5: it's going to be a problem for him, if he's

873
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 5: going to be really proficient at it. This seam goes

874
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 5: for Blade Tidwell, the same goes for uh, you know,

875
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 5: Caleb Killian, he really is in this relief role for

876
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 5: the first time. I'm too, So you know, you look

877
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 5: at the stuff and you think, boy, this stuff can

878
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 5: can really work at the back end of games. But

879
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 5: you've got to be able to post too. You got

880
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 5: to be able to be available, and you know it

881
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 5: can be a struggle for people going through it for

882
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 5: the first time. You know, we we focus so much

883
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 5: on starting pitchers and how many pitches they throw through

884
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 5: every start, or how many innings they throw. And if

885
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 5: you go up vote, you know, land and Route through

886
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 5: only eighty innings this year. Now he's going up to

887
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 5: one forty. That's kind of a big leap in one year,

888
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 5: whatever the case may be. But with relievers, you know,

889
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 5: if you've never done it before, you know, to appear

890
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,959
Speaker 5: in fifty games, sixty games, seventy games is really really

891
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 5: tough if you've never done it before. So you know,

892
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 5: that's where I would pump the brakes a little bit.

893
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 5: It's just you know, you got to find out what

894
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 5: these guys are going to look like, how they can

895
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 5: maintain you know, over the course of of you know,

896
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 5: a couple of weeks, a month, you know, a first

897
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 5: half then the whole season, because you know, everyone's built different,

898
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,439
Speaker 5: everybody has different physical challenges, and you know the best

899
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 5: relievers are are like they say, your best ability is availability,

900
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 5: so that is to be determined for some of these guys.

901
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,919
Speaker 2: Begs, thanks so much for coming by. Great to read

902
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 2: you in the Athletic as always, And look, the first

903
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 2: three went one way. Then now they've won three out

904
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 2: of four and so when we talk to you next week,

905
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,479
Speaker 2: they're going to be starting up on their first big

906
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 2: road trips. So a lot more to catch up on

907
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 2: as we continue to gather information. As JD said at

908
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 2: the beginning of the show, April is about learning and

909
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 2: that's what we're doing.

910
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, hey, if they win today, you know they'll be

911
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 5: bright at five hundred again.

912
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:37,959
Speaker 2: So beangs, Bags, thank you absolutely, Andy Baggery of The Athletic. Yeah, JD.

913
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 2: My joke to Krug after opening night and the seven

914
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,240
Speaker 2: nothing was well, hey, if they win and they bounced

915
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,760
Speaker 2: back though, right back to five hundred, everyone's least favorite spot.

916
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 2: But no, it is obviously very very early in the season.

917
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 3: I mean, it is so funny because that has been

918
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 3: the thing that I've kept coming back to as they've

919
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 3: looked better and better here in the last three or

920
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 3: four days, and I I you praise them for obviously

921
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 3: the improvements that they've made, and some of it is

922
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:06,280
Speaker 3: just the natural ebb and flow of a long MLB season.

923
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 3: But even last night, it's like, oh, damn, three out

924
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 3: of four and then you look up it's like, oh,

925
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 3: they're still three and four, and so like it. It

926
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 3: feels like in the moment, and again we are in

927
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 3: the early part where everything I think it's accounted for to,

928
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,760
Speaker 3: you know, a much greater level than probably it should.

929
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 3: But even though it's like, oh, damn, like people are

930
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 3: really high on this team, all of a sudden, it

931
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 3: feels like there's still three and four at this point.

932
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:36,280
Speaker 3: It has led me toward that familiar thought of damn,

933
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 3: like maybe this team truly is just gonna be destined

934
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 3: to be within a game or two of five hundred

935
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 3: all year long, as most of these teams have been

936
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 3: the last four years.

937
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 2: Eight O, wait, K and b are we got a

938
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 2: little extra headlines coming your way, including a focus on

939
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 2: these San Jose Sharks, and then Walter's gonna hit us

940
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 2: with a little take it or leave it and before

941
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 2: we know it, we'll be out of here and kick

942
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 2: it right over to dirty work. At fifty eight Social

943
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 2: Giants met six forty five. Tonight Tyler Malley gonna be

944
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 2: on the mound as he gets his second start of

945
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 2: the year. It's all coming up. It's Papa and silver

946
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 2: on the Sports Leader.