WEBVTT - Rob Bonta says he's cracking down on prostitution in San Diego County

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<v Speaker 1>so enjoy it. Rob Bonta, the Attorney General from California

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<v Speaker 1>is quite a clicher.

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<v Speaker 2>Every type of leadership is about meeting the moment and

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<v Speaker 2>rising to the occasion.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is what's required.

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<v Speaker 2>And so we're stepping up and getting it done.

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<v Speaker 1>And Rob Bonta held a press conference in San Diego

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<v Speaker 1>with District Attorney Summer Stepan to announce a massive bust,

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<v Speaker 1>a massive operation arresting over one hundred people for soliciting prostitution.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, it's time to crack down on it. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>hear what happened. Here's a report from CBS eight in

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<v Speaker 1>San Diego that.

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<v Speaker 4>The message was clear that human beings are not for.

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<v Speaker 3>Sale except on OnlyFans.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the message behind a major six day sex trafficking

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<v Speaker 5>operation that resulted in over one hundred arrests here in

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<v Speaker 5>San Diego County.

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<v Speaker 1>My goodness, that's how many per day. I can't do

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of math. I went to LUSD. That's quite

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. And that's just in San Diego. This ran

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<v Speaker 1>multiple counties, although not Los Angeles County because we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>hear about any arrest. We didn't hear Rob Bont's task

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<v Speaker 1>force going to Larchmont or Figueroa. But they were in

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<v Speaker 1>I'm guessing Barrio Logan.

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<v Speaker 5>Good evening.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm Steffi Rosch, I'm Carlo Chickeeto. State and local law

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<v Speaker 6>enforcement announced the results of a coordinated multi agency sweep

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<v Speaker 6>today targeting pimps and their customers.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, Johnny's got to like that. They didn't say John's CBSA.

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<v Speaker 5>It's Richard Allen is here with more on this targeted

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<v Speaker 5>enforcement and help being offered to the victims.

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<v Speaker 7>Richard and Steffi and Carlo. This nearly week long operation,

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<v Speaker 7>involving more than a dozen law enforcement agencies, led to

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<v Speaker 7>one hundred and twenty arrests statewide, the vast majority of

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<v Speaker 7>them right here in San Diego County.

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<v Speaker 3>And why is that?

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<v Speaker 7>Including arrests known sex trafficking hotspots in the City of

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<v Speaker 7>San Diego, National City, Santi and San Marcos.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's be clear, human trafficking is happening in our communities,

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<v Speaker 2>behind closed doors and in plain sight.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yes, we're well aware of that it's happening. There

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<v Speaker 1>are news reports about it constantly. In fact, legislation from

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<v Speaker 1>Scott Wiener pretty much decriminalized the act of street walking.

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<v Speaker 7>Speaking in San Diego today, California Attorney General Rob Bonta

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<v Speaker 7>also made it clear that law enforcement is focusing on

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<v Speaker 7>those driving the demand for sex trafficking, including the sex

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<v Speaker 7>buyers and the pimps.

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<v Speaker 3>There you go, but is that going to stop it?

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<v Speaker 3>Probably not.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, there are some things where I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>you get rid of the demand for considering the tendencies

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<v Speaker 1>of stupid young men. Maybe when the robots take off

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, you can just legally buy your own

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<v Speaker 1>sex robot, maybe this will all tamp down. But there

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<v Speaker 1>is a need out there, and unfortunately that need is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be fulfilled unless we decide to either really

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<v Speaker 1>crack down on it or go the other way.

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<v Speaker 2>Our strategy is straightforward, reduce demand, disrupt trafficking networks, and

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<v Speaker 2>protect survivors.

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<v Speaker 7>Operations Stand on Demand, which took place from January nineteenth

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<v Speaker 7>through the twenty fourth, led to eighty seven people arrested

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<v Speaker 7>for loitering, twenty five for solicitation, and eight for pimping

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<v Speaker 7>and pandering.

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<v Speaker 3>They got eight pimps off the streets.

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<v Speaker 1>The rest of them the people who solicited, the people

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<v Speaker 1>who were loitering and waiting around for the street walkers.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta imagine they got a ticket. I'll learn them.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if San Diego County does Dear John letters,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're starting to do that up here in La.

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<v Speaker 7>Of that one hundred and twenty total rests one hundred

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<v Speaker 7>and five, we're here in San Diego County.

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<v Speaker 4>One hundred and five. People who thought that they.

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<v Speaker 1>Were going to go out, you can say, men, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think any women were up and down the streets

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<v Speaker 1>of Barrio Logan looking for a prostitute.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe maybe I'm wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>Who thought that they were going to go out and

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<v Speaker 4>buy a human being like they're a hamburger or a

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<v Speaker 4>slice of pizza.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's it's a weird, weird, weird thing that

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<v Speaker 1>we can talk about how morally outrageous that this is,

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<v Speaker 1>that this persists. But we facilitate this because sure, we

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<v Speaker 1>have these occasional operations where we crack down heavily on

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<v Speaker 1>the street walking where we know it's happening some neighborhoods.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't.

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<v Speaker 3>They say they're cracking down on the Figure Corridor. They're not.

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<v Speaker 3>We heard about everything going on in Larchmont Village. They're not.

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<v Speaker 1>We heard about all this stuff going on in Cap

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<v Speaker 1>Street in San Francisco. Where the answer was well build barrios,

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<v Speaker 1>so cars can't get in there. Outside the churches and

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<v Speaker 1>the schools in Oakland, outside of the homeless encampments of

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<v Speaker 1>International Boulevard. We know about all that, and there's the

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<v Speaker 1>occasional bust. But you know what we also know of.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is why I just don't believe this state

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<v Speaker 1>when they say they want to take this issue seriously.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a lot of licensed businesses where these kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of transactions are taking place every single day, and we've

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<v Speaker 1>all seen them, We've all driven past them, and for

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<v Speaker 1>some reason, our cities, our counties, and our states just

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<v Speaker 1>like to have that business tax revenue. But there are

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<v Speaker 1>more massage parlors in Los Angeles than people in need

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<v Speaker 1>of a massage. I'm not talking about Burke Williams. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not talking about Glen Ivy. I'm not talking about ten

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<v Speaker 1>thousand Waves, the spa that I hung out at in

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<v Speaker 1>Santa Fe last week. No, no, no, no no, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the Strip Mall massage parlor. You've seen them everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>They usually have a flashing sign that says open, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, people really love to get lower back massages

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<v Speaker 1>at eleven o'clock at night. They've got iron bars on

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<v Speaker 1>the windows, and they usually have some nonsensical name. Johnny

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<v Speaker 1>loves to use the joke they're called Yum Yum number two,

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<v Speaker 1>but you've heard them seven days massage, all day massage.

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<v Speaker 1>They are usually occupied in a strip mall that might

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<v Speaker 1>also have, I don't know, a smoke shop, another hot

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<v Speaker 1>bed for illegal activity.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe i'm generalizing, but for the amount of smoke shops

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<v Speaker 1>that we have, which you would think, oh, are places

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<v Speaker 1>where people go to buy tobacco. No, it's where you

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<v Speaker 1>go to buy bongs, probably things that you're not supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to buy, like kratom and all kinds of legally dubious substances.

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<v Speaker 3>What was that thing that was something? Was this thing

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<v Speaker 3>that used to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Able to buy at headshops, at smoke shops, and it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't pot, and it wasn't synthetic pot, although that was

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<v Speaker 1>allowed there too. But you also had this weird thing,

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<v Speaker 1>this spice thing that you could buy that you could

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<v Speaker 1>only buy there, that you could smoke and it would

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<v Speaker 1>instantly give you a headache. Look, maybe it's generalizing, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think the vast majority of smoke shops are fronts

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<v Speaker 1>for either criminal organizations, or they're just straight up selling

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<v Speaker 1>things they're not supposed to, but we allow it because

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<v Speaker 1>we need that business tax revenue. In fact, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>strip mall near my home, which I'll tell you that

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<v Speaker 1>I don't live in that good of a neighborhood. There

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<v Speaker 1>are four units in this tiny little strip mall. One

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<v Speaker 1>of them is a bakery that went out of business,

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<v Speaker 1>one of them has been vacant for over a year,

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<v Speaker 1>one of them's a massage parlor, and one of them's

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<v Speaker 1>a smoke shop. It is nothing but a hotbed of

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<v Speaker 1>activity that is legally dubious and semi ethical because we

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<v Speaker 1>all know what goes on at all of those massage parlors.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no legitimate healing going on there. There's a term

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<v Speaker 1>that I cannot use on the radio. I'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>because it's a funny name, but I cannot use it.

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<v Speaker 1>But that is what the vast majority of those places are,

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<v Speaker 1>and the cities know this because the cities collect business

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<v Speaker 1>taxes from them. So if you really wanted to take

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<v Speaker 1>this issue seriously and including a lot of those, you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about a lot of people that were literally sent

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<v Speaker 1>here in shipping containers like the Wire in season two

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<v Speaker 1>where there is a lot of sex slavery going on. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>if we wanted to take it seriously outside of these

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<v Speaker 1>occasional bus on Sexual Trafficking Awareness Month, we would be

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<v Speaker 1>shutting down those establishments left and right. But here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>If you shut down all of the smoke shops and

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<v Speaker 1>you shut down all of the massage parlors, who's going

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<v Speaker 1>to rent out the spaces in these strip malls. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it's time to get rid of the strip malls.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's where you could start redeveloping and building housing

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<v Speaker 1>instead of tearing down single family homes. Another conversation for

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<v Speaker 1>another day. But it's just always weird to me how

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<v Speaker 1>it's so obvious what some of these businesses are and

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<v Speaker 1>yet we're profiting off of it. Now, you could also

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<v Speaker 1>go in the complete other way on this, because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a man who is starting to travel the world. I

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<v Speaker 1>have been to other places where, well, this specific industry

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<v Speaker 1>that we're talking about has been legalized and regulated.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't have to go too far to see this.

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<v Speaker 1>You can go over to perumpt, Nevada, to the Chicken

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<v Speaker 1>ranch or the Buddy Ranch. We used to have that

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<v Speaker 1>guy Dennis Hoff on the radio station all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and I remember when he used to show up at

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<v Speaker 1>my original radio station, the FM Talk station in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 1>He would drop off booty passes, which was like a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars gift certificate that bought you, well, it bought

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<v Speaker 1>you an hour of you know what. But yeah, that industry,

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<v Speaker 1>which is illegal and we're cracking down on here, is

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<v Speaker 1>legal and regulated pretty much everywhere outside of Las Vegas

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<v Speaker 1>and Nevada. You go south to Tijuana, they actually have

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<v Speaker 1>a regulated industry. You go to where I spent part

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<v Speaker 1>of my holidays at, I didn't go to these establishments,

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<v Speaker 1>but I definitely walked past it. Amsterdam is famous for

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things, including the red Light District, and

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<v Speaker 1>in the red Light District, it is a regulated prostitution

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<v Speaker 1>experience where there are everyone who's doing it is licensed,

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<v Speaker 1>they are checked, they have to there are specific rules

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<v Speaker 1>they have to deal with. There are no pimps involved.

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<v Speaker 1>These are independent contractors that are willfully making a living

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<v Speaker 1>doing this. And there are plenty of tourists that are like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>look at the lady in the window. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what the right answer is, but what I do know

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<v Speaker 1>is you can either fully crack down on this, which

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<v Speaker 1>includes getting a lot tougher on the purchases of sex

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<v Speaker 1>trafficking the Johns, Sorry, Johnny, we can actually make.

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<v Speaker 3>That a felony right now.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a felony if it's a minor, but if they're

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<v Speaker 1>an adult, it doesn't matter what the situation is. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a ticket and that doesn't seem to be doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>So we could go that way, but we could also

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<v Speaker 1>go the other way. I don't know what the right

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<v Speaker 1>answer is. I will say you didn't see any street

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<v Speaker 1>walking in Amsterdam because there's a very specific place where

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<v Speaker 1>this thing is done and it is very very regulated.

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<v Speaker 4>Victims can be any age, any gender, in any background.

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<v Speaker 7>Sureff. Kelly Martinez also points out that cooperation among agencies

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<v Speaker 7>is critical to combating trafficking, which, according to the DA's office,

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<v Speaker 7>is an eight hundred and ten million dollar in a

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<v Speaker 7>year industry in San Diego County alone.

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<v Speaker 1>WHOA what is going on in San Diego County? And look,

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<v Speaker 1>is there a deeper question as to why so many,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean men of all ages participate in this? But

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<v Speaker 1>I would argue it's mostly young men, and we have

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<v Speaker 1>got a crisis with young men these days where and

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<v Speaker 1>this is a real statistic of all people. Gavin Newsome

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<v Speaker 1>talks about this a lot. It's like thirty percent of

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<v Speaker 1>men under thirty have never asked a woman out on

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<v Speaker 1>a date. There is a weird situation going on where

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<v Speaker 1>this is what they do to fulfill their needs.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, when the robots take over, everything will

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<v Speaker 3>be okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Our border location, major highways, tourism, and the military presence

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<v Speaker 4>make regional collaboration essential.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, so is that why it's so high in San

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<v Speaker 1>Diego because it's where a lot of soldiers live.

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<v Speaker 8>That's stereotyping, no buyers, no trafficking.

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<v Speaker 7>Marissa Ugarte is executive director of the nonprofit Bilateral Safety

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<v Speaker 7>Corridor Coalition, which fights human trafficking on both sides of

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<v Speaker 7>the border. She says operations like this focusing on curbing

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<v Speaker 7>the demand for trafficking is crucial to sending a clear message.

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<v Speaker 8>Is that you're going to be arrested, You're going to

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<v Speaker 8>have a fellon me, especially if you are caught with

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<v Speaker 8>a miner.

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<v Speaker 1>Well only if you're caught with a miner, otherwise it's

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<v Speaker 1>a ticket. So again, if we want to take this

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<v Speaker 1>issue seriously, right now, the punishment for committing this actor.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it doesn't have to be prison time. Maybe it

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<v Speaker 1>has to be public shaming. Maybe we need billboards, we

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<v Speaker 1>need good old fashioned scarlet letters.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 8>So buyers beware, pimps beware.

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<v Speaker 1>This is just something legitimately funny about the word pimp.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, those are the worst of the worst.

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<v Speaker 7>Adding that in her experience, trafficking victims can be as

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<v Speaker 7>young as twelve years old.

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<v Speaker 8>You have recruitment in malls, you have them in schools,

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<v Speaker 8>you have them in restaurants.

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<v Speaker 7>Law enforcement also making it clear that more operations like

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<v Speaker 7>this most recent one are coming.

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<v Speaker 9>This isn't the end, this is the beginning.

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<v Speaker 7>And if you're planning to lurk in our communities, you

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<v Speaker 7>need to know we're going to be there.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's all great, and I'm glad that they made

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<v Speaker 1>so many busts in the span of a week, mostly

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<v Speaker 1>in San Diego County, But again, if the only thing

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<v Speaker 1>that the John's are getting is a ticket, is that

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<v Speaker 1>really a deterrent?

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<v Speaker 7>And law enforcement was also able to use a new

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<v Speaker 7>state law that just went into effect January first to

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<v Speaker 7>carry out some of these arrests. Maybe three seventy nine,

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<v Speaker 7>which was sponsored by District Attorney Summer Stephan and Mayor

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<v Speaker 7>Todd Gloria, makes it a misdemeanor to loiter with the

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<v Speaker 7>intent to buy sex and also makes it a felony

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<v Speaker 7>to solicit sex from someone who is sixteen or seventeen

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<v Speaker 7>years old.

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<v Speaker 1>So wait, it wasn't even a misdemeanor until this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Let alone, it's a felony. Obviously it's a minor. But

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<v Speaker 1>you remember how much of a fight that was in Sacramento, Richard.

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<v Speaker 6>One thing that kind of jumped out in that story

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<v Speaker 6>to me, California is a big state. One hundred and

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<v Speaker 6>twenty arrests, one hundred and five were in San Diego.

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<v Speaker 6>Did they say why so many were arrests were made here?

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<v Speaker 7>We are sort of a nexus, sort of a hot

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<v Speaker 7>spot for this activity, unfortunately, I mean, and there's a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of factors, and Sheriff Martinez kind of pointed it

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<v Speaker 7>out with our location to the border, our military presence,

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<v Speaker 7>our presidence of the major highway systems here were a

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<v Speaker 7>major tourist destination. So all of that together makes us

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<v Speaker 7>unfortunately a hotspot for human traffic.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's so weird that they keep bringing up, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we have all the military basis, so that's why.

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<v Speaker 6>And the Attorney General mentioned the importance of helping out

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<v Speaker 6>the survivors of sex traffics, right, what kind of resources

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<v Speaker 6>are out there for victims?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, he made it very point. He said a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of times, too often the victims are treated as

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<v Speaker 7>criminals and not as victims, which they are. And there

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<v Speaker 7>are a lot of resources locally and nationally. There are

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<v Speaker 7>three family Justice centers here in San Diego County, there's

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<v Speaker 7>the Bilateral Safety Corridor Coalition, who we interviewed. There's the

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<v Speaker 7>National Human Trafficking Hotline away of Lincoln.

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<v Speaker 1>And look, there is definitely, you know, some horrific things

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<v Speaker 1>going on there. There is sex slavery, there are miners

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<v Speaker 1>being trafficked. But there are also people doing this of

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<v Speaker 1>their own accord. There are also people who are willingly

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<v Speaker 1>put walking up and down those streets that willingly go

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<v Speaker 1>into this. Maybe it's a financial reason, what have you.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're not all fully victims. Now do they become

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<v Speaker 1>victimized and they get taken over by the pimp and

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<v Speaker 1>there is a you know, real you know, there are

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<v Speaker 1>some real problems going on there. Yes, but It's also

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<v Speaker 1>again the things that we decide are morally outrageous. It's

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<v Speaker 1>funny because if two people exchange money to perform an act,

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<v Speaker 1>that's against the law. But you can pay two people

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<v Speaker 1>to perform that act on camera and that's legal. How

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<v Speaker 1>that industry was born in the San Fernando Valley. You

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<v Speaker 1>can have an OnlyFans account where people can subscribe to

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<v Speaker 1>you to do all kinds of things, including occasionally inviting

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<v Speaker 1>a subscriber to join you, and somehow that's legal. So look,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we either got to go down one road here,

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<v Speaker 1>but we got to stick to it. Do you think

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<v Speaker 1>we need to crack down further on prostitution in California

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<v Speaker 1>make soliciting prostitution of any age a felony? Or do

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<v Speaker 1>you think it's time to go the other way and

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<v Speaker 1>go full Amsterdam and legalize and regulate this industry. What

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<v Speaker 1>say you give us a call eight hundred two two

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<v Speaker 1>two five two two two one eight hundred two two

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<v Speaker 1>two five two two two. Would you like to see

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<v Speaker 1>California crack down even further on prostitution and sex trafficking?

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<v Speaker 1>Or should we screw it, legalize and regulate the industry?

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<v Speaker 1>Cut the pimps out of the game because the prostitutes

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<v Speaker 1>can be independent contractors. What do you think legalize it

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<v Speaker 1>or crack down further? Eight hundred two two two five

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<v Speaker 1>two two two. California Attorney General rom Banta announced over

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred arrests in San Diego County for solicitation of prostitution.

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<v Speaker 1>But because of California laws, unless they were a minor,

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<v Speaker 1>these guys are only getting a ticket. So do you

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<v Speaker 1>think we need to crack down even further on solicitation

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<v Speaker 1>of prostitution making it a felony or should we go

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<v Speaker 1>full Amsterdam and just legalize and regulate this never ending

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<v Speaker 1>demand industry.

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<v Speaker 3>What say you?

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<v Speaker 1>There's no wrong answer here eight hundred two two two

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<v Speaker 1>five two two two. If you'd like to email us,

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<v Speaker 1>you could do so at Johnny don't like show at

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<v Speaker 1>gmail dot com. Al writes in fun fact from World

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<v Speaker 1>War Two. During the war, prostitutes around military basis complain

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<v Speaker 1>a teenage girls who were khaki wacky. We're giving it

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<v Speaker 1>away and severely cutting into their business. I bet Shang

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<v Speaker 1>likes that, so let's hear from her.

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<v Speaker 10>That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>I like that.

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<v Speaker 10>That is amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, we're going to Gladstone's in Long

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<v Speaker 1>and be part of the broadcast. We're taking your phone

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<v Speaker 1>calls right now. Eight hundred two to two two five

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<v Speaker 1>two two two one eight hundred two two two five

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<v Speaker 1>two two two. Rob Bonta announced a huge operation up

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<v Speaker 1>and down the state of California, but mostly focused in

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<v Speaker 1>San Diego, arresting over one hundred people for solicitation of

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<v Speaker 1>prostitution and or loitering. But most of those people unless

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<v Speaker 1>they were going after a minor just got a ticket.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's two ways we can go here. Do we

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<v Speaker 1>need to crack down even further to curb demand of

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<v Speaker 1>prostitution in California, making solicitation a felony, or do we

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<v Speaker 1>go the other way, legalize and regulate this industry and

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<v Speaker 1>go full Amsterdam?

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<v Speaker 3>What say you?

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<v Speaker 1>Eight hundred two two two five two two two one

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<v Speaker 1>eight hundred two to two two five two two two.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say this, Amsterdam is an immaculately clean city

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<v Speaker 1>and you don't really see any street walking because you

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<v Speaker 1>know exactly where to get that service and it is legal.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to John in San Jose.

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<v Speaker 3>John, Hello, Hello, Bob.

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<v Speaker 11>I agree, it would be savor for the guys. It

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<v Speaker 11>would be savor for the women for having legalized You

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<v Speaker 11>would do way went to pimp and the girls gets

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<v Speaker 11>beat up.

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<v Speaker 3>There is that aspect to it.

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<v Speaker 1>There's you know, there is a legitimate need to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>use such crass terms for this service. But the way

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<v Speaker 1>that we decriminalize it now, we are allowing women to

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<v Speaker 1>be victimized by the pimps that kind of rule over

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<v Speaker 1>them with impunity. If you're going to legalize it, you've

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<v Speaker 1>got to completely crack down on the illegal industry, which

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<v Speaker 1>means every massage parlor's.

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<v Speaker 3>Going out of business.

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<v Speaker 11>That's true.

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<v Speaker 3>There you go, John, Thanks so much for the call.

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<v Speaker 3>Appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, I'm not saying every massage parlor and smoke shop

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<v Speaker 1>is a hot bed of illegal activity. I'm just saying

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<v Speaker 1>most of them are. But I think the dirty little

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<v Speaker 1>secret is that we don't want to go after those

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<v Speaker 1>industries because cities and counties in the state need their

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<v Speaker 1>business taxes, even though we all know what's going on there.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to Danny and Gilroy. Danny, Hello, how you.

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<v Speaker 9>Doing, Randy? Thank you for you guys are show you

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<v Speaker 9>guys are awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm a sixty six year old male and I'm single

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<v Speaker 9>and single for about twelve years, and i run two

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<v Speaker 9>businesses and I've tried online dating and I'm sorry, but

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<v Speaker 9>most of the women are whacked out or drunks. And

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<v Speaker 9>for me to be able to go in once a

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<v Speaker 9>month and get a massage and a little something done

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<v Speaker 9>one hundred and fifty to cheaper than going on.

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<v Speaker 1>A date, I guess that is a good points.

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<v Speaker 9>It is. It's real. I'm not alone in this as

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<v Speaker 9>most of the guys I talked to, you know, are like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 9>boom boom, and you're done and you can go on

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<v Speaker 9>about your business and your day and you're not having

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<v Speaker 9>to sit there texting, talking, making plans to go out

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<v Speaker 9>to dinner and stuff. It's actually real convenient.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, as the old joke is, you're not paying them

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<v Speaker 1>for the act, you're paying them to leave.

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<v Speaker 9>Exactly. You hit it right on the nail head, buddy.

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<v Speaker 9>And with how long that this has been an issue

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<v Speaker 9>in the world, or at least the United States, it's like,

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<v Speaker 9>come on, man, It's like you keep trying to fix

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<v Speaker 9>a broken wheel, but you don't fix it and fix it.

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<v Speaker 9>Just make it legal. It'd be so much easier for everybody.

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<v Speaker 9>And the whole Amsterdam thing where you're guaranteed that the

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<v Speaker 9>women are clean and everything's taken care of. They're making

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<v Speaker 9>a living. If that's what they choose to have a profession,

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<v Speaker 9>it's their right being forced to do it. I disagree

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<v Speaker 9>within one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he makes some really strong points.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate the call, Danny, Danny telling us exactly what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on. Look, and there is a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>who are doing this on the regular. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>even if we increased it to a felony that we

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<v Speaker 1>would necessarily tamp down on the demand. There's always going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a demand for this kind of service, whether

0:24:59.080 --> 0:25:02.199
<v Speaker 1>it's you know, so for not wanting to deal with dating,

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<v Speaker 1>or people that are intimidated by dating, what have you.

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<v Speaker 1>People still have these needs, these urges. Now, well, this

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<v Speaker 1>whole world look completely different when the sex robots take over.

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<v Speaker 3>Possibly.

0:25:14.160 --> 0:25:15.960
<v Speaker 1>The other thing you do have to think about, though,

0:25:16.119 --> 0:25:20.600
<v Speaker 1>is it's one thing to say let's legalize it regulated,

0:25:21.640 --> 0:25:26.760
<v Speaker 1>and honestly, after traveling to Amsterdam, I'm like, well, it

0:25:26.880 --> 0:25:29.639
<v Speaker 1>seems to make sense there and it's really not that

0:25:29.720 --> 0:25:31.840
<v Speaker 1>big of a deal there, Like, you know, if that's

0:25:31.840 --> 0:25:33.399
<v Speaker 1>what you want to do, that's what you want to do.

0:25:33.480 --> 0:25:36.040
<v Speaker 1>But it's there's so many other things to see and

0:25:36.080 --> 0:25:38.240
<v Speaker 1>do in Amsterdam. They're like, oh, yeah, there's the red

0:25:38.320 --> 0:25:40.800
<v Speaker 1>light district. Cool, let's go check out the canals and

0:25:40.800 --> 0:25:43.200
<v Speaker 1>then let's go to the Reich's Museum. I miss Europe.

0:25:43.720 --> 0:25:48.960
<v Speaker 1>But the implementation is something to think about because California

0:25:49.000 --> 0:25:55.040
<v Speaker 1>has a terrible track record at legalizing industries, specifically the

0:25:55.040 --> 0:26:02.400
<v Speaker 1>marijuana industry. People voted to regulate and illegalize marijuana, and

0:26:02.560 --> 0:26:06.239
<v Speaker 1>the idea was that if we legalize it and tax it,

0:26:06.720 --> 0:26:11.200
<v Speaker 1>then we can get rid of the illegal cartel marijuana industry.

0:26:12.600 --> 0:26:16.480
<v Speaker 1>And here we are eight years later, and that illegal

0:26:16.520 --> 0:26:20.480
<v Speaker 1>industry is bigger than the legal industry because of how

0:26:20.520 --> 0:26:25.840
<v Speaker 1>awful the rollout was foration for legalization, how awful the

0:26:25.920 --> 0:26:29.280
<v Speaker 1>rollout was for the tax structure where it's more expensive

0:26:29.320 --> 0:26:31.639
<v Speaker 1>to do it legally and we don't punish the people

0:26:31.680 --> 0:26:36.080
<v Speaker 1>that do it illegally. So even in the abstract where

0:26:36.119 --> 0:26:40.119
<v Speaker 1>you can think about, yes, it could make sense, California

0:26:40.359 --> 0:26:44.240
<v Speaker 1>would bungle it because that is what California does best.

0:26:44.880 --> 0:26:47.480
<v Speaker 1>Eight hundred two two two five two two two is

0:26:47.520 --> 0:26:51.480
<v Speaker 1>the telephone number after Banta's big operation in San Diego

0:26:51.520 --> 0:26:54.119
<v Speaker 1>where they arrested and ticketed over one hundred guys for

0:26:54.240 --> 0:26:58.520
<v Speaker 1>solicitation of prostitution and loitering. Do you think we need

0:26:58.560 --> 0:27:02.240
<v Speaker 1>to crack down further to curb demand or do we

0:27:02.280 --> 0:27:05.359
<v Speaker 1>go the other way and legalize and regulate this? What

0:27:05.440 --> 0:27:08.040
<v Speaker 1>do you think? Eight hundred two two two five two

0:27:08.080 --> 0:27:10.200
<v Speaker 1>two two. Let's go to Mike at Vallejo.

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<v Speaker 12>Mike, Hello, Randy, how are you doing, partner doing great, excellent.

0:27:16.320 --> 0:27:17.960
<v Speaker 13>You know, I agree with the last caller. I will

0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:20.040
<v Speaker 13>say aloud and part I'll say my name, I'll say

0:27:20.040 --> 0:27:22.080
<v Speaker 13>where I'm from, and I'll say exactly what he said.

0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:26.240
<v Speaker 13>I at seventeen years old, I joined the military, and

0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:28.720
<v Speaker 13>from that point on I have been doing this. I'm

0:27:28.720 --> 0:27:30.600
<v Speaker 13>not going to stop doing it. I'm not quite as

0:27:30.600 --> 0:27:32.600
<v Speaker 13>old as the last guy, but very close. Yes, I

0:27:32.640 --> 0:27:35.080
<v Speaker 13>have my own business and I'm here to tell you,

0:27:35.640 --> 0:27:37.960
<v Speaker 13>for a couple hundred dollars, you can find a woman

0:27:38.040 --> 0:27:40.480
<v Speaker 13>skilled in a thircraft to turn you into a boiled chicken.

0:27:40.840 --> 0:27:43.840
<v Speaker 13>And she says things like thank you, She says things

0:27:43.880 --> 0:27:46.360
<v Speaker 13>like I can't wait to see you again. There's no drama,

0:27:46.560 --> 0:27:49.359
<v Speaker 13>there's no bs involved in all this. It is a

0:27:49.880 --> 0:27:53.040
<v Speaker 13>service being provided. Like you said, it's no problem doing

0:27:53.040 --> 0:27:55.199
<v Speaker 13>it on OnlyFans or whatever paying try people is doing

0:27:55.280 --> 0:27:57.560
<v Speaker 13>on a video. But again, I've been to Europe just

0:27:57.600 --> 0:28:00.560
<v Speaker 13>like you, and it is clean, it is regular, and

0:28:00.640 --> 0:28:04.159
<v Speaker 13>let's face it, it is the oldest profession ever.

0:28:05.160 --> 0:28:07.920
<v Speaker 1>I think there is definitely an argument that there's never

0:28:08.200 --> 0:28:11.240
<v Speaker 1>ever going to be getting rid of demand for this industry.

0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:14.520
<v Speaker 1>So we can either allow the horrific things to happen

0:28:14.560 --> 0:28:17.200
<v Speaker 1>that are happening on the streets, or you can find

0:28:17.280 --> 0:28:19.000
<v Speaker 1>a safe place to facilitate it.

0:28:20.280 --> 0:28:22.399
<v Speaker 13>Absolutely, and I want to echo his last statements though.

0:28:22.440 --> 0:28:24.679
<v Speaker 13>It's very important what he said. It's one thing a

0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:27.080
<v Speaker 13>woman who chooses to do this for a living or

0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:29.399
<v Speaker 13>one man, depending who there you are, and it's another

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:30.800
<v Speaker 13>thing someone being forced to do it.

0:28:32.040 --> 0:28:34.600
<v Speaker 1>That's a huge point. Thank you so much for the call, Mike,

0:28:34.680 --> 0:28:37.359
<v Speaker 1>and thanks for being so honest. I appreciate it. Look,

0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:42.960
<v Speaker 1>when I was eighteen, I went to Tijuana. It was

0:28:43.040 --> 0:28:48.720
<v Speaker 1>legal there, and at that point that seemed less scary

0:28:48.760 --> 0:28:54.560
<v Speaker 1>than asking a girl out on a date. I'm a

0:28:54.680 --> 0:28:58.200
<v Speaker 1>much older and wiser person now, but that's what young

0:28:58.240 --> 0:29:01.400
<v Speaker 1>guys do. That's what all guys do. Again, when the

0:29:01.520 --> 0:29:04.120
<v Speaker 1>robots take over, who knows when we have West World?

0:29:04.880 --> 0:29:07.560
<v Speaker 1>Who knows what this world's gonna look like? Oh, Adam,

0:29:07.600 --> 0:29:10.400
<v Speaker 1>and Santa Rosa has the answer I've been looking for, Adam.

0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:14.640
<v Speaker 3>Hello, Hello, Randy, how you doing doing great?

0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:20.080
<v Speaker 14>So I believe that what you were thinking of was salvia.

0:29:20.200 --> 0:29:23.760
<v Speaker 3>Yes, Salvia divin.

0:29:23.560 --> 0:29:26.920
<v Speaker 14>Norum is a sage derivative. It's in the sage family,

0:29:27.360 --> 0:29:29.160
<v Speaker 14>and so what salvia did is you're not supposed to

0:29:29.200 --> 0:29:31.440
<v Speaker 14>put It wasn't supposed to be a large amount. You

0:29:31.440 --> 0:29:33.240
<v Speaker 14>would either put a little bit of marijuana in the

0:29:33.240 --> 0:29:34.920
<v Speaker 14>bottom and then put put maril on the bottom in

0:29:34.960 --> 0:29:37.400
<v Speaker 14>a little bit of salvia on top, or you would

0:29:37.400 --> 0:29:38.960
<v Speaker 14>just smoke a little bit of salvia. But it never

0:29:39.000 --> 0:29:43.480
<v Speaker 14>required much. And the second you exhaled, you instantly felt it.

0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:46.360
<v Speaker 14>And you had no control over what you're going to experience.

0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:50.080
<v Speaker 14>Everybody experiences something different, but you have absolutely no control,

0:29:50.120 --> 0:29:54.360
<v Speaker 14>and you will see or experience something and it lasts

0:29:54.400 --> 0:29:57.520
<v Speaker 14>about three minutes and then it disappears. I know you

0:29:57.640 --> 0:29:59.600
<v Speaker 14>mentioned a headache. I had never experienced a headache. You

0:29:59.680 --> 0:30:03.080
<v Speaker 14>have a fouric feelings about three hours after. But the

0:30:03.160 --> 0:30:06.800
<v Speaker 14>high itself, and it is more than DMT acid. It

0:30:06.880 --> 0:30:09.480
<v Speaker 14>is more than mushrooms. And I have friends who've done

0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:11.680
<v Speaker 14>all that stuff who are in their seventies, and I'm

0:30:11.680 --> 0:30:15.600
<v Speaker 14>telling you, salvia is extremely as strong. It's a dude

0:30:15.600 --> 0:30:20.160
<v Speaker 14>once or twice and probably never again. Just because you're

0:30:20.200 --> 0:30:22.320
<v Speaker 14>gonna see something and you don't have really control like

0:30:22.360 --> 0:30:24.400
<v Speaker 14>you might over some mushrooms or you might have with acid.

0:30:24.760 --> 0:30:27.920
<v Speaker 14>This salvia, even though it's stage is crazy.

0:30:28.840 --> 0:30:30.960
<v Speaker 3>Well, and one of the things that.

0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:33.720
<v Speaker 14>The bushes also caused to listen egenics well.

0:30:33.560 --> 0:30:35.920
<v Speaker 1>And one of the things that people probably don't realize

0:30:36.040 --> 0:30:38.520
<v Speaker 1>is that is perfectly legal and you can buy it

0:30:38.560 --> 0:30:40.040
<v Speaker 1>in smoke shops right now.

0:30:42.000 --> 0:30:43.920
<v Speaker 14>Yeah well yeah, I mean, I know, like you had said,

0:30:43.960 --> 0:30:46.160
<v Speaker 14>a lot stopped carrying it. The first time I encountered

0:30:46.160 --> 0:30:48.680
<v Speaker 14>it was up in Chico, nor Fund one oh one,

0:30:49.760 --> 0:30:52.200
<v Speaker 14>but it was in Santa Rosa for a small amount

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:55.240
<v Speaker 14>of time and then just gone. The strength level also

0:30:55.280 --> 0:30:59.400
<v Speaker 14>had decreased over time. Originally, like eighty X was the

0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:02.520
<v Speaker 14>the highest ranks, but over time they lowered it, probably

0:31:02.520 --> 0:31:04.719
<v Speaker 14>because they noticed what was happening or realized he just

0:31:04.760 --> 0:31:07.600
<v Speaker 14>really didn't need it, and also that the money wasn't there.

0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:10.400
<v Speaker 14>Once people realized this was just way too strong, and

0:31:10.840 --> 0:31:13.080
<v Speaker 14>even for people who have done I had friends and

0:31:13.320 --> 0:31:16.960
<v Speaker 14>my old friend in Vietnam be passed now, but you know, buttons,

0:31:17.200 --> 0:31:19.040
<v Speaker 14>I think you know what I mean, but smoking buttons,

0:31:19.080 --> 0:31:21.520
<v Speaker 14>all this kind of stuff. And even him, I mean,

0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:24.120
<v Speaker 14>he thought that he was walking like his legs look

0:31:24.120 --> 0:31:26.160
<v Speaker 14>like they were down in the Grand Canyon. I had

0:31:26.240 --> 0:31:28.720
<v Speaker 14>a friend who said he had no doubt that he

0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:31.000
<v Speaker 14>could walk into the television. He refused to touch the

0:31:31.040 --> 0:31:33.320
<v Speaker 14>TV because he thought he could walk into it, or

0:31:33.360 --> 0:31:35.720
<v Speaker 14>a close friend of mine who was inside of this

0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:39.000
<v Speaker 14>just a giant forest. Everything's white and he sees the

0:31:39.080 --> 0:31:41.840
<v Speaker 14>stream running through and he leans down for some water,

0:31:41.920 --> 0:31:43.600
<v Speaker 14>and he said some people like pushed him over and

0:31:43.600 --> 0:31:46.160
<v Speaker 14>were telling him that he couldn't leave. And I'm watching him.

0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:47.720
<v Speaker 14>He's on his back. It was like, you know, like

0:31:47.760 --> 0:31:49.719
<v Speaker 14>a bug that dies right in his hands and feet up.

0:31:49.760 --> 0:31:51.880
<v Speaker 14>He's like no, no, He's like, oh my god, what

0:31:51.920 --> 0:31:55.320
<v Speaker 14>the hell's wrong with you? I had never seen that before.

0:31:56.080 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 3>Those are some wild stories at him.

0:31:57.800 --> 0:32:00.120
<v Speaker 1>I gotta tell you, the only time I ever tried it,

0:32:00.120 --> 0:32:02.360
<v Speaker 1>it just gave me a splitting headache. And then I

0:32:02.400 --> 0:32:04.800
<v Speaker 1>went back to pot for ten years. But thanks so

0:32:04.880 --> 0:32:07.680
<v Speaker 1>much for the call. Appreciate it. Eight hundred two to

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:10.720
<v Speaker 1>two two five two two two is the telephone number one.

0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Eight hundred two to two two five two two two.

0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:17.160
<v Speaker 1>Bonta announced a big crackdown on solicitation of prostitution in

0:32:17.240 --> 0:32:20.640
<v Speaker 1>San Diego. Of course, all that happened was the guys

0:32:20.640 --> 0:32:22.120
<v Speaker 1>who got arrested got tickets.

0:32:22.560 --> 0:32:24.320
<v Speaker 3>What do you think do we go further down? Do

0:32:24.400 --> 0:32:25.440
<v Speaker 3>we make that a felony.

0:32:25.480 --> 0:32:27.800
<v Speaker 1>Do we really crack down the demand or do we

0:32:28.080 --> 0:32:31.880
<v Speaker 1>just decide to go full Amsterdam and legalize this profession?

0:32:32.080 --> 0:32:32.720
<v Speaker 3>What say you?

0:32:33.000 --> 0:32:35.240
<v Speaker 1>Eight hundred two to two two five two two two

0:32:35.440 --> 0:32:37.760
<v Speaker 1>one eight hundred two two two five two two two

0:32:38.080 --> 0:32:40.960
<v Speaker 1>No wrong answers here, And as you can see, people

0:32:40.960 --> 0:32:44.400
<v Speaker 1>are calling in being brutally honest, and we appreciate it.

0:32:44.400 --> 0:32:47.000
<v Speaker 1>It's Randy Wang here. Let's get back to the phones

0:32:47.040 --> 0:32:51.360
<v Speaker 1>on the question of cracking down further or legalizing prostitution

0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:54.440
<v Speaker 1>in California. Let's go to mic in California. Mike, Hello,

0:32:56.280 --> 0:32:57.800
<v Speaker 1>how you knowing to doing great?

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:02.640
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, there was a time when everything web page called

0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:06.200
<v Speaker 10>red Book, and it got shut down by the state.

0:33:06.800 --> 0:33:10.920
<v Speaker 10>But it was actually a place for working girls to advertise.

0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:16.800
<v Speaker 10>But in addition it had chatrooms and reviews. People could

0:33:16.800 --> 0:33:21.920
<v Speaker 10>actually post reviews about the girls, which some liked, some didn't.

0:33:22.000 --> 0:33:24.280
<v Speaker 10>You know, the ones who liked it worship. But in

0:33:24.320 --> 0:33:26.920
<v Speaker 10>the chatrooms most of them were run by other girls,

0:33:26.920 --> 0:33:30.480
<v Speaker 10>so got kind of caddies. But at one point Maddie,

0:33:31.160 --> 0:33:33.240
<v Speaker 10>the wife of red who ran it, asked me to

0:33:33.320 --> 0:33:37.920
<v Speaker 10>run once, and being a guy, you know, I ran

0:33:37.960 --> 0:33:41.680
<v Speaker 10>it completely different. It was respectful. Girls got to meet

0:33:41.720 --> 0:33:47.120
<v Speaker 10>guys online first. And one thing that started is girls

0:33:47.120 --> 0:33:50.680
<v Speaker 10>had tasked me privately and tell me about guys were

0:33:50.760 --> 0:33:55.080
<v Speaker 10>violent or would risk them off. And we actually started

0:33:55.160 --> 0:33:59.840
<v Speaker 10>trading that information with the other girls and they appreciated it,

0:34:00.280 --> 0:34:02.640
<v Speaker 10>you know, helped keep them safe.

0:34:03.760 --> 0:34:06.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that kind of information definitely needs to be shared.

0:34:06.920 --> 0:34:08.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, if the girls are going to have a

0:34:08.520 --> 0:34:13.120
<v Speaker 1>one to five star review, so should the customers as well.

0:34:13.239 --> 0:34:13.439
<v Speaker 4>Well.

0:34:13.440 --> 0:34:15.520
<v Speaker 10>In addition, you know, I was friends with a lot

0:34:15.520 --> 0:34:18.120
<v Speaker 10>of them, you know, more than a customer. We started

0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:21.600
<v Speaker 10>doing meet and Greek dinners, and the standing rule was

0:34:21.680 --> 0:34:24.960
<v Speaker 10>this is just they're on break, they're just out to

0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:29.920
<v Speaker 10>socialize and it's not a hint party, but those go

0:34:30.040 --> 0:34:34.120
<v Speaker 10>pretty big. We had dinners up to like forty sixty

0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:37.360
<v Speaker 10>people at times, and it just turned to go nice social.

0:34:37.400 --> 0:34:39.880
<v Speaker 10>It was a whole different clique and a lot of

0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:41.719
<v Speaker 10>these girls that's all they can do. There's a lot

0:34:41.760 --> 0:34:45.080
<v Speaker 10>of the legals, ones that didn't have an education, but

0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:46.920
<v Speaker 10>they can make a lot of money. One of them,

0:34:46.960 --> 0:34:49.960
<v Speaker 10>I know, she's actually bought property in the Philippines and

0:34:50.040 --> 0:34:54.440
<v Speaker 10>retiring there, and others. You know, they've gotten good jobs

0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:58.560
<v Speaker 10>and they've actually left them to go back to working.

0:35:01.160 --> 0:35:02.520
<v Speaker 10>If they do with life, they can make a lot

0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:05.520
<v Speaker 10>of money. You just have to use some common sense

0:35:05.600 --> 0:35:07.240
<v Speaker 10>to be safe.

0:35:08.320 --> 0:35:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think you make some interesting points, Mike. Thank

0:35:10.920 --> 0:35:13.880
<v Speaker 1>you so much for sharing your story. Appreciate it. You

0:35:13.920 --> 0:35:18.719
<v Speaker 1>know it is something to consider. AI is about to

0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:23.440
<v Speaker 1>take away a whole lot of jobs. At some point.

0:35:23.760 --> 0:35:25.800
<v Speaker 1>This might be one of the only jobs that's left

0:35:26.400 --> 0:35:29.600
<v Speaker 1>unless the sex robots are really good. Let's go to

0:35:30.000 --> 0:35:31.200
<v Speaker 1>Stacey and Bellflowers.

0:35:31.239 --> 0:35:36.920
<v Speaker 15>Stacey, Hello, hey there, Oh gosh, let's say these guys

0:35:36.920 --> 0:35:41.160
<v Speaker 15>are It's just disturbing. I am just wondering why our

0:35:41.239 --> 0:35:46.239
<v Speaker 15>country just keeps giving into the decay of morals everywhere

0:35:46.600 --> 0:35:50.600
<v Speaker 15>and instead of force enforcing law and order. So, you guys,

0:35:50.719 --> 0:35:53.320
<v Speaker 15>they gave those side a few tickets, big deal. Tickets

0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:57.839
<v Speaker 15>are nothing, you know, like, charge them severe fines, make

0:35:57.920 --> 0:36:02.000
<v Speaker 15>them pay fines, confiscate their paychecks. You don't put it

0:36:02.040 --> 0:36:04.839
<v Speaker 15>on there. Let their companies know what they're doing. I mean,

0:36:05.000 --> 0:36:08.479
<v Speaker 15>women are not for sale. They are not for sale.

0:36:08.560 --> 0:36:10.279
<v Speaker 15>We can do better than that for the women in

0:36:10.320 --> 0:36:12.920
<v Speaker 15>this country. And that guy they're saying, you know, oh,

0:36:13.040 --> 0:36:15.799
<v Speaker 15>this helps to keep them safe by sharing information. No,

0:36:15.920 --> 0:36:17.719
<v Speaker 15>it doesn't. You know, they're going to get into a

0:36:17.800 --> 0:36:20.080
<v Speaker 15>room with these guys locked up in a room naked.

0:36:20.520 --> 0:36:23.640
<v Speaker 15>You know, they can you know, they could kill them, obviously,

0:36:23.719 --> 0:36:27.520
<v Speaker 15>rate them, drug them whatever. But instead of giving into

0:36:27.560 --> 0:36:29.839
<v Speaker 15>that and just say, oh, let's we know what's going on,

0:36:30.160 --> 0:36:32.919
<v Speaker 15>let's just make it legal. No, crack down the damn

0:36:33.320 --> 0:36:36.680
<v Speaker 15>crime of it. Crack down on their pens. I mean really,

0:36:36.840 --> 0:36:40.200
<v Speaker 15>that's that's the solution to just every woman's body's for sale.

0:36:40.280 --> 0:36:42.160
<v Speaker 15>Let them do it, because they're doing it anyway. No,

0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:45.880
<v Speaker 15>stop this. It's crazy. And those guys, I'm sorry you

0:36:45.920 --> 0:36:48.040
<v Speaker 15>guys that are all saying it's okay you don't want

0:36:48.040 --> 0:36:49.400
<v Speaker 15>to go on these long term dates.

0:36:49.480 --> 0:36:50.400
<v Speaker 14>You guys are pigs.

0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:53.120
<v Speaker 15>Yeah, I'm serious, I'm blue pigs.

0:36:53.280 --> 0:36:56.320
<v Speaker 1>So, Stacy, do you think that the people that purchase

0:36:56.480 --> 0:36:59.760
<v Speaker 1>the you know, people that are the John's that sorry Johnny,

0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:01.880
<v Speaker 1>but use that term. Do you think they should be

0:37:01.920 --> 0:37:02.440
<v Speaker 1>in prison?

0:37:04.480 --> 0:37:04.560
<v Speaker 6>No?

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<v Speaker 11>I don't think they.

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<v Speaker 15>Should be in prison at all. Our prisons, you know,

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<v Speaker 15>are overcrowded right now of you know, these really violent criminals. No,

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<v Speaker 15>but find them, you know, ticket isn't anything app find them,

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<v Speaker 15>make them pay for that eventually if they keep doing it,

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<v Speaker 15>then yeah, I mean maybe go to prison. You know,

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<v Speaker 15>if people just don't respect law and order, there needs

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<v Speaker 15>to be prison time for that. There's there's guys that

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<v Speaker 15>have rap sheets that are a mile long, so that

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<v Speaker 15>doesn't work either, so that at some point we've got

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<v Speaker 15>to crack down on that, and maybe they need time.

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<v Speaker 15>But no, just you're just going out a couple of

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<v Speaker 15>times and you know, finding yourself a prostitute or whatever.

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<v Speaker 15>I don't think that they should be in jail. There's

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<v Speaker 15>just not enough space. But find them, hit them with

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<v Speaker 15>their wallet and hit them with their work. Just like

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<v Speaker 15>the dads that don't pay child support, they get their

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<v Speaker 15>paychecks confiscated and everybody knows about that. Do that, Shame

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<v Speaker 15>them like that and make them pay, but don't give

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<v Speaker 15>into it and just say yet, no problem, we're going

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<v Speaker 15>to give into it. You know these women are for sale?

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<v Speaker 15>No they're not. We can do better than that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I really appreciate your passionate argument on this, Stacy,

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much for the call. Appreciate it. Let's go

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<v Speaker 1>to Teddy and Burbank.

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<v Speaker 3>Teddy, Hello, Hey, how are you Randy doing great?

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<v Speaker 16>Norma Jean Almadovar wrote a book called From Cop to

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<v Speaker 16>Call Girl. She did this basically in conjunction with founding Coyote,

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<v Speaker 16>which was a woman's projection group, and it will open

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<v Speaker 16>your eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll have to check it out. Thanks so much for

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<v Speaker 1>the call. Appreciate it. We got time for one more here,

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<v Speaker 1>Mike and Pataloma. Keep it clean, Mike, Hello.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh hello, hey.

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<v Speaker 12>You know, I have a whole different take on this,

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<v Speaker 12>and it starts with I took my aunt to her

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<v Speaker 12>doctor's appointment, and then as I came in, I saw

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<v Speaker 12>all these men there. It's a female doctor, and so

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<v Speaker 12>I asked the receptionist, you know, how come there's so

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<v Speaker 12>many men here? She says, well, the doctor, you know,

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<v Speaker 12>comes from an old school where they do prostate massage.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness, I know exactly where you're going with

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<v Speaker 1>that story. I'm so sorry we're out of time. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much for the call. Well that was a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of fun interesting debate, wasn't it. That's what we

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<v Speaker 1>do here. There's no wrong answers. Thank y'all so much

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<v Speaker 1>for being a part of this show. I gotta go

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<v Speaker 1>hop on the four or five freeway, suffer for an hour.

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<v Speaker 1>Have some lunch, and then I'll be back on the

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