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Speaker 1: so enjoy it. Rob Bonta, the Attorney General from California
Speaker 1: is quite a clicher.
Speaker 2: Every type of leadership is about meeting the moment and
Speaker 2: rising to the occasion.
Speaker 3: And this is what's required.
Speaker 2: And so we're stepping up and getting it done.
Speaker 1: And Rob Bonta held a press conference in San Diego
Speaker 1: with District Attorney Summer Stepan to announce a massive bust,
Speaker 1: a massive operation arresting over one hundred people for soliciting prostitution.
Speaker 1: That's right, it's time to crack down on it. Let's
Speaker 1: hear what happened. Here's a report from CBS eight in
Speaker 1: San Diego that.
Speaker 4: The message was clear that human beings are not for.
Speaker 3: Sale except on OnlyFans.
Speaker 5: That's the message behind a major six day sex trafficking
Speaker 5: operation that resulted in over one hundred arrests here in
Speaker 5: San Diego County.
Speaker 1: My goodness, that's how many per day. I can't do
Speaker 1: that kind of math. I went to LUSD. That's quite
Speaker 1: a lot. And that's just in San Diego. This ran
Speaker 1: multiple counties, although not Los Angeles County because we didn't
Speaker 1: hear about any arrest. We didn't hear Rob Bont's task
Speaker 1: force going to Larchmont or Figueroa. But they were in
Speaker 1: I'm guessing Barrio Logan.
Speaker 5: Good evening.
Speaker 6: I'm Steffi Rosch, I'm Carlo Chickeeto. State and local law
Speaker 6: enforcement announced the results of a coordinated multi agency sweep
Speaker 6: today targeting pimps and their customers.
Speaker 1: Oh, Johnny's got to like that. They didn't say John's CBSA.
Speaker 5: It's Richard Allen is here with more on this targeted
Speaker 5: enforcement and help being offered to the victims.
Speaker 7: Richard and Steffi and Carlo. This nearly week long operation,
Speaker 7: involving more than a dozen law enforcement agencies, led to
Speaker 7: one hundred and twenty arrests statewide, the vast majority of
Speaker 7: them right here in San Diego County.
Speaker 3: And why is that?
Speaker 7: Including arrests known sex trafficking hotspots in the City of
Speaker 7: San Diego, National City, Santi and San Marcos.
Speaker 2: Let's be clear, human trafficking is happening in our communities,
Speaker 2: behind closed doors and in plain sight.
Speaker 1: Well, yes, we're well aware of that it's happening. There
Speaker 1: are news reports about it constantly. In fact, legislation from
Speaker 1: Scott Wiener pretty much decriminalized the act of street walking.
Speaker 7: Speaking in San Diego today, California Attorney General Rob Bonta
Speaker 7: also made it clear that law enforcement is focusing on
Speaker 7: those driving the demand for sex trafficking, including the sex
Speaker 7: buyers and the pimps.
Speaker 3: There you go, but is that going to stop it?
Speaker 3: Probably not.
Speaker 1: Look, there are some things where I don't know how
Speaker 1: you get rid of the demand for considering the tendencies
Speaker 1: of stupid young men. Maybe when the robots take off
Speaker 1: and you know, you can just legally buy your own
Speaker 1: sex robot, maybe this will all tamp down. But there
Speaker 1: is a need out there, and unfortunately that need is
Speaker 1: going to be fulfilled unless we decide to either really
Speaker 1: crack down on it or go the other way.
Speaker 2: Our strategy is straightforward, reduce demand, disrupt trafficking networks, and
Speaker 2: protect survivors.
Speaker 7: Operations Stand on Demand, which took place from January nineteenth
Speaker 7: through the twenty fourth, led to eighty seven people arrested
Speaker 7: for loitering, twenty five for solicitation, and eight for pimping
Speaker 7: and pandering.
Speaker 3: They got eight pimps off the streets.
Speaker 1: The rest of them the people who solicited, the people
Speaker 1: who were loitering and waiting around for the street walkers.
Speaker 1: I gotta imagine they got a ticket. I'll learn them.
Speaker 1: I don't know if San Diego County does Dear John letters,
Speaker 1: but they're starting to do that up here in La.
Speaker 7: Of that one hundred and twenty total rests one hundred
Speaker 7: and five, we're here in San Diego County.
Speaker 4: One hundred and five. People who thought that they.
Speaker 1: Were going to go out, you can say, men, I
Speaker 1: don't think any women were up and down the streets
Speaker 1: of Barrio Logan looking for a prostitute.
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 4: Who thought that they were going to go out and
Speaker 4: buy a human being like they're a hamburger or a
Speaker 4: slice of pizza.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's a weird, weird, weird thing that
Speaker 1: we can talk about how morally outrageous that this is,
Speaker 1: that this persists. But we facilitate this because sure, we
Speaker 1: have these occasional operations where we crack down heavily on
Speaker 1: the street walking where we know it's happening some neighborhoods.
Speaker 1: We don't.
Speaker 3: They say they're cracking down on the Figure Corridor. They're not.
Speaker 3: We heard about everything going on in Larchmont Village. They're not.
Speaker 1: We heard about all this stuff going on in Cap
Speaker 1: Street in San Francisco. Where the answer was well build barrios,
Speaker 1: so cars can't get in there. Outside the churches and
Speaker 1: the schools in Oakland, outside of the homeless encampments of
Speaker 1: International Boulevard. We know about all that, and there's the
Speaker 1: occasional bust. But you know what we also know of.
Speaker 1: And this is why I just don't believe this state
Speaker 1: when they say they want to take this issue seriously.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of licensed businesses where these kinds
Speaker 1: of transactions are taking place every single day, and we've
Speaker 1: all seen them, We've all driven past them, and for
Speaker 1: some reason, our cities, our counties, and our states just
Speaker 1: like to have that business tax revenue. But there are
Speaker 1: more massage parlors in Los Angeles than people in need
Speaker 1: of a massage. I'm not talking about Burke Williams. I'm
Speaker 1: not talking about Glen Ivy. I'm not talking about ten
Speaker 1: thousand Waves, the spa that I hung out at in
Speaker 1: Santa Fe last week. No, no, no, no no, I'm
Speaker 1: talking about the Strip Mall massage parlor. You've seen them everywhere.
Speaker 1: They usually have a flashing sign that says open, because
Speaker 1: you know, people really love to get lower back massages
Speaker 1: at eleven o'clock at night. They've got iron bars on
Speaker 1: the windows, and they usually have some nonsensical name. Johnny
Speaker 1: loves to use the joke they're called Yum Yum number two,
Speaker 1: but you've heard them seven days massage, all day massage.
Speaker 1: They are usually occupied in a strip mall that might
Speaker 1: also have, I don't know, a smoke shop, another hot
Speaker 1: bed for illegal activity.
Speaker 3: I'm just sorry.
Speaker 1: Maybe i'm generalizing, but for the amount of smoke shops
Speaker 1: that we have, which you would think, oh, are places
Speaker 1: where people go to buy tobacco. No, it's where you
Speaker 1: go to buy bongs, probably things that you're not supposed
Speaker 1: to buy, like kratom and all kinds of legally dubious substances.
Speaker 3: What was that thing that was something? Was this thing
Speaker 3: that used to be.
Speaker 1: Able to buy at headshops, at smoke shops, and it
Speaker 1: wasn't pot, and it wasn't synthetic pot, although that was
Speaker 1: allowed there too. But you also had this weird thing,
Speaker 1: this spice thing that you could buy that you could
Speaker 1: only buy there, that you could smoke and it would
Speaker 1: instantly give you a headache. Look, maybe it's generalizing, but
Speaker 1: I think the vast majority of smoke shops are fronts
Speaker 1: for either criminal organizations, or they're just straight up selling
Speaker 1: things they're not supposed to, but we allow it because
Speaker 1: we need that business tax revenue. In fact, there's a
Speaker 1: strip mall near my home, which I'll tell you that
Speaker 1: I don't live in that good of a neighborhood. There
Speaker 1: are four units in this tiny little strip mall. One
Speaker 1: of them is a bakery that went out of business,
Speaker 1: one of them has been vacant for over a year,
Speaker 1: one of them's a massage parlor, and one of them's
Speaker 1: a smoke shop. It is nothing but a hotbed of
Speaker 1: activity that is legally dubious and semi ethical because we
Speaker 1: all know what goes on at all of those massage parlors.
Speaker 1: There's no legitimate healing going on there. There's a term
Speaker 1: that I cannot use on the radio. I'd like to
Speaker 1: because it's a funny name, but I cannot use it.
Speaker 1: But that is what the vast majority of those places are,
Speaker 1: and the cities know this because the cities collect business
Speaker 1: taxes from them. So if you really wanted to take
Speaker 1: this issue seriously and including a lot of those, you're
Speaker 1: talking about a lot of people that were literally sent
Speaker 1: here in shipping containers like the Wire in season two
Speaker 1: where there is a lot of sex slavery going on. Look,
Speaker 1: if we wanted to take it seriously outside of these
Speaker 1: occasional bus on Sexual Trafficking Awareness Month, we would be
Speaker 1: shutting down those establishments left and right. But here's the thing.
Speaker 1: If you shut down all of the smoke shops and
Speaker 1: you shut down all of the massage parlors, who's going
Speaker 1: to rent out the spaces in these strip malls. Now,
Speaker 1: maybe it's time to get rid of the strip malls.
Speaker 1: And that's where you could start redeveloping and building housing
Speaker 1: instead of tearing down single family homes. Another conversation for
Speaker 1: another day. But it's just always weird to me how
Speaker 1: it's so obvious what some of these businesses are and
Speaker 1: yet we're profiting off of it. Now, you could also
Speaker 1: go in the complete other way on this, because I'm
Speaker 1: a man who is starting to travel the world. I
Speaker 1: have been to other places where, well, this specific industry
Speaker 1: that we're talking about has been legalized and regulated.
Speaker 3: You don't have to go too far to see this.
Speaker 1: You can go over to perumpt, Nevada, to the Chicken
Speaker 1: ranch or the Buddy Ranch. We used to have that
Speaker 1: guy Dennis Hoff on the radio station all the time,
Speaker 1: and I remember when he used to show up at
Speaker 1: my original radio station, the FM Talk station in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: He would drop off booty passes, which was like a
Speaker 1: thousand dollars gift certificate that bought you, well, it bought
Speaker 1: you an hour of you know what. But yeah, that industry,
Speaker 1: which is illegal and we're cracking down on here, is
Speaker 1: legal and regulated pretty much everywhere outside of Las Vegas
Speaker 1: and Nevada. You go south to Tijuana, they actually have
Speaker 1: a regulated industry. You go to where I spent part
Speaker 1: of my holidays at, I didn't go to these establishments,
Speaker 1: but I definitely walked past it. Amsterdam is famous for
Speaker 1: a lot of things, including the red Light District, and
Speaker 1: in the red Light District, it is a regulated prostitution
Speaker 1: experience where there are everyone who's doing it is licensed,
Speaker 1: they are checked, they have to there are specific rules
Speaker 1: they have to deal with. There are no pimps involved.
Speaker 1: These are independent contractors that are willfully making a living
Speaker 1: doing this. And there are plenty of tourists that are like, hey,
Speaker 1: look at the lady in the window. I don't know
Speaker 1: what the right answer is, but what I do know
Speaker 1: is you can either fully crack down on this, which
Speaker 1: includes getting a lot tougher on the purchases of sex
Speaker 1: trafficking the Johns, Sorry, Johnny, we can actually make.
Speaker 3: That a felony right now.
Speaker 1: It's a felony if it's a minor, but if they're
Speaker 1: an adult, it doesn't matter what the situation is. It's
Speaker 1: a ticket and that doesn't seem to be doing it.
Speaker 1: So we could go that way, but we could also
Speaker 1: go the other way. I don't know what the right
Speaker 1: answer is. I will say you didn't see any street
Speaker 1: walking in Amsterdam because there's a very specific place where
Speaker 1: this thing is done and it is very very regulated.
Speaker 4: Victims can be any age, any gender, in any background.
Speaker 7: Sureff. Kelly Martinez also points out that cooperation among agencies
Speaker 7: is critical to combating trafficking, which, according to the DA's office,
Speaker 7: is an eight hundred and ten million dollar in a
Speaker 7: year industry in San Diego County alone.
Speaker 1: WHOA what is going on in San Diego County? And look,
Speaker 1: is there a deeper question as to why so many,
Speaker 1: I mean men of all ages participate in this? But
Speaker 1: I would argue it's mostly young men, and we have
Speaker 1: got a crisis with young men these days where and
Speaker 1: this is a real statistic of all people. Gavin Newsome
Speaker 1: talks about this a lot. It's like thirty percent of
Speaker 1: men under thirty have never asked a woman out on
Speaker 1: a date. There is a weird situation going on where
Speaker 1: this is what they do to fulfill their needs.
Speaker 3: So you know, when the robots take over, everything will
Speaker 3: be okay.
Speaker 4: Our border location, major highways, tourism, and the military presence
Speaker 4: make regional collaboration essential.
Speaker 1: Wait, so is that why it's so high in San
Speaker 1: Diego because it's where a lot of soldiers live.
Speaker 8: That's stereotyping, no buyers, no trafficking.
Speaker 7: Marissa Ugarte is executive director of the nonprofit Bilateral Safety
Speaker 7: Corridor Coalition, which fights human trafficking on both sides of
Speaker 7: the border. She says operations like this focusing on curbing
Speaker 7: the demand for trafficking is crucial to sending a clear message.
Speaker 8: Is that you're going to be arrested, You're going to
Speaker 8: have a fellon me, especially if you are caught with
Speaker 8: a miner.
Speaker 1: Well only if you're caught with a miner, otherwise it's
Speaker 1: a ticket. So again, if we want to take this
Speaker 1: issue seriously, right now, the punishment for committing this actor.
Speaker 1: Maybe it doesn't have to be prison time. Maybe it
Speaker 1: has to be public shaming. Maybe we need billboards, we
Speaker 1: need good old fashioned scarlet letters.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 8: So buyers beware, pimps beware.
Speaker 1: This is just something legitimately funny about the word pimp.
Speaker 1: But yeah, those are the worst of the worst.
Speaker 7: Adding that in her experience, trafficking victims can be as
Speaker 7: young as twelve years old.
Speaker 8: You have recruitment in malls, you have them in schools,
Speaker 8: you have them in restaurants.
Speaker 7: Law enforcement also making it clear that more operations like
Speaker 7: this most recent one are coming.
Speaker 9: This isn't the end, this is the beginning.
Speaker 7: And if you're planning to lurk in our communities, you
Speaker 7: need to know we're going to be there.
Speaker 1: And that's all great, and I'm glad that they made
Speaker 1: so many busts in the span of a week, mostly
Speaker 1: in San Diego County, But again, if the only thing
Speaker 1: that the John's are getting is a ticket, is that
Speaker 1: really a deterrent?
Speaker 7: And law enforcement was also able to use a new
Speaker 7: state law that just went into effect January first to
Speaker 7: carry out some of these arrests. Maybe three seventy nine,
Speaker 7: which was sponsored by District Attorney Summer Stephan and Mayor
Speaker 7: Todd Gloria, makes it a misdemeanor to loiter with the
Speaker 7: intent to buy sex and also makes it a felony
Speaker 7: to solicit sex from someone who is sixteen or seventeen
Speaker 7: years old.
Speaker 1: So wait, it wasn't even a misdemeanor until this year.
Speaker 1: Let alone, it's a felony. Obviously it's a minor. But
Speaker 1: you remember how much of a fight that was in Sacramento, Richard.
Speaker 6: One thing that kind of jumped out in that story
Speaker 6: to me, California is a big state. One hundred and
Speaker 6: twenty arrests, one hundred and five were in San Diego.
Speaker 6: Did they say why so many were arrests were made here?
Speaker 7: We are sort of a nexus, sort of a hot
Speaker 7: spot for this activity, unfortunately, I mean, and there's a
Speaker 7: lot of factors, and Sheriff Martinez kind of pointed it
Speaker 7: out with our location to the border, our military presence,
Speaker 7: our presidence of the major highway systems here were a
Speaker 7: major tourist destination. So all of that together makes us
Speaker 7: unfortunately a hotspot for human traffic.
Speaker 1: And it's so weird that they keep bringing up, well,
Speaker 1: we have all the military basis, so that's why.
Speaker 6: And the Attorney General mentioned the importance of helping out
Speaker 6: the survivors of sex traffics, right, what kind of resources
Speaker 6: are out there for victims?
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, he made it very point. He said a
Speaker 7: lot of times, too often the victims are treated as
Speaker 7: criminals and not as victims, which they are. And there
Speaker 7: are a lot of resources locally and nationally. There are
Speaker 7: three family Justice centers here in San Diego County, there's
Speaker 7: the Bilateral Safety Corridor Coalition, who we interviewed. There's the
Speaker 7: National Human Trafficking Hotline away of Lincoln.
Speaker 1: And look, there is definitely, you know, some horrific things
Speaker 1: going on there. There is sex slavery, there are miners
Speaker 1: being trafficked. But there are also people doing this of
Speaker 1: their own accord. There are also people who are willingly
Speaker 1: put walking up and down those streets that willingly go
Speaker 1: into this. Maybe it's a financial reason, what have you.
Speaker 1: But they're not all fully victims. Now do they become
Speaker 1: victimized and they get taken over by the pimp and
Speaker 1: there is a you know, real you know, there are
Speaker 1: some real problems going on there. Yes, but It's also
Speaker 1: again the things that we decide are morally outrageous. It's
Speaker 1: funny because if two people exchange money to perform an act,
Speaker 1: that's against the law. But you can pay two people
Speaker 1: to perform that act on camera and that's legal. How
Speaker 1: that industry was born in the San Fernando Valley. You
Speaker 1: can have an OnlyFans account where people can subscribe to
Speaker 1: you to do all kinds of things, including occasionally inviting
Speaker 1: a subscriber to join you, and somehow that's legal. So look,
Speaker 1: I think we either got to go down one road here,
Speaker 1: but we got to stick to it. Do you think
Speaker 1: we need to crack down further on prostitution in California
Speaker 1: make soliciting prostitution of any age a felony? Or do
Speaker 1: you think it's time to go the other way and
Speaker 1: go full Amsterdam and legalize and regulate this industry. What
Speaker 1: say you give us a call eight hundred two two
Speaker 1: two five two two two one eight hundred two two
Speaker 1: two five two two two. Would you like to see
Speaker 1: California crack down even further on prostitution and sex trafficking?
Speaker 1: Or should we screw it, legalize and regulate the industry?
Speaker 1: Cut the pimps out of the game because the prostitutes
Speaker 1: can be independent contractors. What do you think legalize it
Speaker 1: or crack down further? Eight hundred two two two five
Speaker 1: two two two. California Attorney General rom Banta announced over
Speaker 1: one hundred arrests in San Diego County for solicitation of prostitution.
Speaker 1: But because of California laws, unless they were a minor,
Speaker 1: these guys are only getting a ticket. So do you
Speaker 1: think we need to crack down even further on solicitation
Speaker 1: of prostitution making it a felony or should we go
Speaker 1: full Amsterdam and just legalize and regulate this never ending
Speaker 1: demand industry.
Speaker 3: What say you?
Speaker 1: There's no wrong answer here eight hundred two two two
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Speaker 1: calls right now. Eight hundred two to two two five
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Speaker 1: two two two. Rob Bonta announced a huge operation up
Speaker 1: and down the state of California, but mostly focused in
Speaker 1: San Diego, arresting over one hundred people for solicitation of
Speaker 1: prostitution and or loitering. But most of those people unless
Speaker 1: they were going after a minor just got a ticket.
Speaker 1: So there's two ways we can go here. Do we
Speaker 1: need to crack down even further to curb demand of
Speaker 1: prostitution in California, making solicitation a felony, or do we
Speaker 1: go the other way, legalize and regulate this industry and
Speaker 1: go full Amsterdam?
Speaker 3: What say you?
Speaker 1: Eight hundred two two two five two two two one
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Speaker 1: I will say this, Amsterdam is an immaculately clean city
Speaker 1: and you don't really see any street walking because you
Speaker 1: know exactly where to get that service and it is legal.
Speaker 1: Let's go to John in San Jose.
Speaker 3: John, Hello, Hello, Bob.
Speaker 11: I agree, it would be savor for the guys. It
Speaker 11: would be savor for the women for having legalized You
Speaker 11: would do way went to pimp and the girls gets
Speaker 11: beat up.
Speaker 3: There is that aspect to it.
Speaker 1: There's you know, there is a legitimate need to you know,
Speaker 1: use such crass terms for this service. But the way
Speaker 1: that we decriminalize it now, we are allowing women to
Speaker 1: be victimized by the pimps that kind of rule over
Speaker 1: them with impunity. If you're going to legalize it, you've
Speaker 1: got to completely crack down on the illegal industry, which
Speaker 1: means every massage parlor's.
Speaker 3: Going out of business.
Speaker 11: That's true.
Speaker 3: There you go, John, Thanks so much for the call.
Speaker 3: Appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Look, I'm not saying every massage parlor and smoke shop
Speaker 1: is a hot bed of illegal activity. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: most of them are. But I think the dirty little
Speaker 1: secret is that we don't want to go after those
Speaker 1: industries because cities and counties in the state need their
Speaker 1: business taxes, even though we all know what's going on there.
Speaker 1: Let's go to Danny and Gilroy. Danny, Hello, how you.
Speaker 9: Doing, Randy? Thank you for you guys are show you
Speaker 9: guys are awesome.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 9: I'm a sixty six year old male and I'm single
Speaker 9: and single for about twelve years, and i run two
Speaker 9: businesses and I've tried online dating and I'm sorry, but
Speaker 9: most of the women are whacked out or drunks. And
Speaker 9: for me to be able to go in once a
Speaker 9: month and get a massage and a little something done
Speaker 9: one hundred and fifty to cheaper than going on.
Speaker 1: A date, I guess that is a good points.
Speaker 9: It is. It's real. I'm not alone in this as
Speaker 9: most of the guys I talked to, you know, are like, yeah,
Speaker 9: boom boom, and you're done and you can go on
Speaker 9: about your business and your day and you're not having
Speaker 9: to sit there texting, talking, making plans to go out
Speaker 9: to dinner and stuff. It's actually real convenient.
Speaker 1: Well, as the old joke is, you're not paying them
Speaker 1: for the act, you're paying them to leave.
Speaker 9: Exactly. You hit it right on the nail head, buddy.
Speaker 9: And with how long that this has been an issue
Speaker 9: in the world, or at least the United States, it's like,
Speaker 9: come on, man, It's like you keep trying to fix
Speaker 9: a broken wheel, but you don't fix it and fix it.
Speaker 9: Just make it legal. It'd be so much easier for everybody.
Speaker 9: And the whole Amsterdam thing where you're guaranteed that the
Speaker 9: women are clean and everything's taken care of. They're making
Speaker 9: a living. If that's what they choose to have a profession,
Speaker 9: it's their right being forced to do it. I disagree
Speaker 9: within one hundred percent.
Speaker 3: I think he makes some really strong points.
Speaker 1: I appreciate the call, Danny, Danny telling us exactly what's
Speaker 1: going on. Look, and there is a lot of people
Speaker 1: who are doing this on the regular. I don't know
Speaker 1: even if we increased it to a felony that we
Speaker 1: would necessarily tamp down on the demand. There's always going
Speaker 1: to be a demand for this kind of service, whether
Speaker 1: it's you know, so for not wanting to deal with dating,
Speaker 1: or people that are intimidated by dating, what have you.
Speaker 1: People still have these needs, these urges. Now, well, this
Speaker 1: whole world look completely different when the sex robots take over.
Speaker 3: Possibly.
Speaker 1: The other thing you do have to think about, though,
Speaker 1: is it's one thing to say let's legalize it regulated,
Speaker 1: and honestly, after traveling to Amsterdam, I'm like, well, it
Speaker 1: seems to make sense there and it's really not that
Speaker 1: big of a deal there, Like, you know, if that's
Speaker 1: what you want to do, that's what you want to do.
Speaker 1: But it's there's so many other things to see and
Speaker 1: do in Amsterdam. They're like, oh, yeah, there's the red
Speaker 1: light district. Cool, let's go check out the canals and
Speaker 1: then let's go to the Reich's Museum. I miss Europe.
Speaker 1: But the implementation is something to think about because California
Speaker 1: has a terrible track record at legalizing industries, specifically the
Speaker 1: marijuana industry. People voted to regulate and illegalize marijuana, and
Speaker 1: the idea was that if we legalize it and tax it,
Speaker 1: then we can get rid of the illegal cartel marijuana industry.
Speaker 1: And here we are eight years later, and that illegal
Speaker 1: industry is bigger than the legal industry because of how
Speaker 1: awful the rollout was foration for legalization, how awful the
Speaker 1: rollout was for the tax structure where it's more expensive
Speaker 1: to do it legally and we don't punish the people
Speaker 1: that do it illegally. So even in the abstract where
Speaker 1: you can think about, yes, it could make sense, California
Speaker 1: would bungle it because that is what California does best.
Speaker 1: Eight hundred two two two five two two two is
Speaker 1: the telephone number after Banta's big operation in San Diego
Speaker 1: where they arrested and ticketed over one hundred guys for
Speaker 1: solicitation of prostitution and loitering. Do you think we need
Speaker 1: to crack down further to curb demand or do we
Speaker 1: go the other way and legalize and regulate this? What
Speaker 1: do you think? Eight hundred two two two five two
Speaker 1: two two. Let's go to Mike at Vallejo.
Speaker 12: Mike, Hello, Randy, how are you doing, partner doing great, excellent.
Speaker 13: You know, I agree with the last caller. I will
Speaker 13: say aloud and part I'll say my name, I'll say
Speaker 13: where I'm from, and I'll say exactly what he said.
Speaker 13: I at seventeen years old, I joined the military, and
Speaker 13: from that point on I have been doing this. I'm
Speaker 13: not going to stop doing it. I'm not quite as
Speaker 13: old as the last guy, but very close. Yes, I
Speaker 13: have my own business and I'm here to tell you,
Speaker 13: for a couple hundred dollars, you can find a woman
Speaker 13: skilled in a thircraft to turn you into a boiled chicken.
Speaker 13: And she says things like thank you, She says things
Speaker 13: like I can't wait to see you again. There's no drama,
Speaker 13: there's no bs involved in all this. It is a
Speaker 13: service being provided. Like you said, it's no problem doing
Speaker 13: it on OnlyFans or whatever paying try people is doing
Speaker 13: on a video. But again, I've been to Europe just
Speaker 13: like you, and it is clean, it is regular, and
Speaker 13: let's face it, it is the oldest profession ever.
Speaker 1: I think there is definitely an argument that there's never
Speaker 1: ever going to be getting rid of demand for this industry.
Speaker 1: So we can either allow the horrific things to happen
Speaker 1: that are happening on the streets, or you can find
Speaker 1: a safe place to facilitate it.
Speaker 13: Absolutely, and I want to echo his last statements though.
Speaker 13: It's very important what he said. It's one thing a
Speaker 13: woman who chooses to do this for a living or
Speaker 13: one man, depending who there you are, and it's another
Speaker 13: thing someone being forced to do it.
Speaker 1: That's a huge point. Thank you so much for the call, Mike,
Speaker 1: and thanks for being so honest. I appreciate it. Look,
Speaker 1: when I was eighteen, I went to Tijuana. It was
Speaker 1: legal there, and at that point that seemed less scary
Speaker 1: than asking a girl out on a date. I'm a
Speaker 1: much older and wiser person now, but that's what young
Speaker 1: guys do. That's what all guys do. Again, when the
Speaker 1: robots take over, who knows when we have West World?
Speaker 1: Who knows what this world's gonna look like? Oh, Adam,
Speaker 1: and Santa Rosa has the answer I've been looking for, Adam.
Speaker 3: Hello, Hello, Randy, how you doing doing great?
Speaker 14: So I believe that what you were thinking of was salvia.
Speaker 3: Yes, Salvia divin.
Speaker 14: Norum is a sage derivative. It's in the sage family,
Speaker 14: and so what salvia did is you're not supposed to
Speaker 14: put It wasn't supposed to be a large amount. You
Speaker 14: would either put a little bit of marijuana in the
Speaker 14: bottom and then put put maril on the bottom in
Speaker 14: a little bit of salvia on top, or you would
Speaker 14: just smoke a little bit of salvia. But it never
Speaker 14: required much. And the second you exhaled, you instantly felt it.
Speaker 14: And you had no control over what you're going to experience.
Speaker 14: Everybody experiences something different, but you have absolutely no control,
Speaker 14: and you will see or experience something and it lasts
Speaker 14: about three minutes and then it disappears. I know you
Speaker 14: mentioned a headache. I had never experienced a headache. You
Speaker 14: have a fouric feelings about three hours after. But the
Speaker 14: high itself, and it is more than DMT acid. It
Speaker 14: is more than mushrooms. And I have friends who've done
Speaker 14: all that stuff who are in their seventies, and I'm
Speaker 14: telling you, salvia is extremely as strong. It's a dude
Speaker 14: once or twice and probably never again. Just because you're
Speaker 14: gonna see something and you don't have really control like
Speaker 14: you might over some mushrooms or you might have with acid.
Speaker 14: This salvia, even though it's stage is crazy.
Speaker 3: Well, and one of the things that.
Speaker 14: The bushes also caused to listen egenics well.
Speaker 1: And one of the things that people probably don't realize
Speaker 1: is that is perfectly legal and you can buy it
Speaker 1: in smoke shops right now.
Speaker 14: Yeah well yeah, I mean, I know, like you had said,
Speaker 14: a lot stopped carrying it. The first time I encountered
Speaker 14: it was up in Chico, nor Fund one oh one,
Speaker 14: but it was in Santa Rosa for a small amount
Speaker 14: of time and then just gone. The strength level also
Speaker 14: had decreased over time. Originally, like eighty X was the
Speaker 14: the highest ranks, but over time they lowered it, probably
Speaker 14: because they noticed what was happening or realized he just
Speaker 14: really didn't need it, and also that the money wasn't there.
Speaker 14: Once people realized this was just way too strong, and
Speaker 14: even for people who have done I had friends and
Speaker 14: my old friend in Vietnam be passed now, but you know, buttons,
Speaker 14: I think you know what I mean, but smoking buttons,
Speaker 14: all this kind of stuff. And even him, I mean,
Speaker 14: he thought that he was walking like his legs look
Speaker 14: like they were down in the Grand Canyon. I had
Speaker 14: a friend who said he had no doubt that he
Speaker 14: could walk into the television. He refused to touch the
Speaker 14: TV because he thought he could walk into it, or
Speaker 14: a close friend of mine who was inside of this
Speaker 14: just a giant forest. Everything's white and he sees the
Speaker 14: stream running through and he leans down for some water,
Speaker 14: and he said some people like pushed him over and
Speaker 14: were telling him that he couldn't leave. And I'm watching him.
Speaker 14: He's on his back. It was like, you know, like
Speaker 14: a bug that dies right in his hands and feet up.
Speaker 14: He's like no, no, He's like, oh my god, what
Speaker 14: the hell's wrong with you? I had never seen that before.
Speaker 3: Those are some wild stories at him.
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, the only time I ever tried it,
Speaker 1: it just gave me a splitting headache. And then I
Speaker 1: went back to pot for ten years. But thanks so
Speaker 1: much for the call. Appreciate it. Eight hundred two to
Speaker 1: two two five two two two is the telephone number one.
Speaker 1: Eight hundred two to two two five two two two.
Speaker 1: Bonta announced a big crackdown on solicitation of prostitution in
Speaker 1: San Diego. Of course, all that happened was the guys
Speaker 1: who got arrested got tickets.
Speaker 3: What do you think do we go further down? Do
Speaker 3: we make that a felony.
Speaker 1: Do we really crack down the demand or do we
Speaker 1: just decide to go full Amsterdam and legalize this profession?
Speaker 3: What say you?
Speaker 1: Eight hundred two to two two five two two two
Speaker 1: one eight hundred two two two five two two two
Speaker 1: No wrong answers here, And as you can see, people
Speaker 1: are calling in being brutally honest, and we appreciate it.
Speaker 1: It's Randy Wang here. Let's get back to the phones
Speaker 1: on the question of cracking down further or legalizing prostitution
Speaker 1: in California. Let's go to mic in California. Mike, Hello,
Speaker 1: how you knowing to doing great?
Speaker 10: Yeah, there was a time when everything web page called
Speaker 10: red Book, and it got shut down by the state.
Speaker 10: But it was actually a place for working girls to advertise.
Speaker 10: But in addition it had chatrooms and reviews. People could
Speaker 10: actually post reviews about the girls, which some liked, some didn't.
Speaker 10: You know, the ones who liked it worship. But in
Speaker 10: the chatrooms most of them were run by other girls,
Speaker 10: so got kind of caddies. But at one point Maddie,
Speaker 10: the wife of red who ran it, asked me to
Speaker 10: run once, and being a guy, you know, I ran
Speaker 10: it completely different. It was respectful. Girls got to meet
Speaker 10: guys online first. And one thing that started is girls
Speaker 10: had tasked me privately and tell me about guys were
Speaker 10: violent or would risk them off. And we actually started
Speaker 10: trading that information with the other girls and they appreciated it,
Speaker 10: you know, helped keep them safe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that kind of information definitely needs to be shared.
Speaker 1: You know, if the girls are going to have a
Speaker 1: one to five star review, so should the customers as well.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 10: In addition, you know, I was friends with a lot
Speaker 10: of them, you know, more than a customer. We started
Speaker 10: doing meet and Greek dinners, and the standing rule was
Speaker 10: this is just they're on break, they're just out to
Speaker 10: socialize and it's not a hint party, but those go
Speaker 10: pretty big. We had dinners up to like forty sixty
Speaker 10: people at times, and it just turned to go nice social.
Speaker 10: It was a whole different clique and a lot of
Speaker 10: these girls that's all they can do. There's a lot
Speaker 10: of the legals, ones that didn't have an education, but
Speaker 10: they can make a lot of money. One of them,
Speaker 10: I know, she's actually bought property in the Philippines and
Speaker 10: retiring there, and others. You know, they've gotten good jobs
Speaker 10: and they've actually left them to go back to working.
Speaker 10: If they do with life, they can make a lot
Speaker 10: of money. You just have to use some common sense
Speaker 10: to be safe.
Speaker 1: Well, I think you make some interesting points, Mike. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much for sharing your story. Appreciate it. You
Speaker 1: know it is something to consider. AI is about to
Speaker 1: take away a whole lot of jobs. At some point.
Speaker 1: This might be one of the only jobs that's left
Speaker 1: unless the sex robots are really good. Let's go to
Speaker 1: Stacey and Bellflowers.
Speaker 15: Stacey, Hello, hey there, Oh gosh, let's say these guys
Speaker 15: are It's just disturbing. I am just wondering why our
Speaker 15: country just keeps giving into the decay of morals everywhere
Speaker 15: and instead of force enforcing law and order. So, you guys,
Speaker 15: they gave those side a few tickets, big deal. Tickets
Speaker 15: are nothing, you know, like, charge them severe fines, make
Speaker 15: them pay fines, confiscate their paychecks. You don't put it
Speaker 15: on there. Let their companies know what they're doing. I mean,
Speaker 15: women are not for sale. They are not for sale.
Speaker 15: We can do better than that for the women in
Speaker 15: this country. And that guy they're saying, you know, oh,
Speaker 15: this helps to keep them safe by sharing information. No,
Speaker 15: it doesn't. You know, they're going to get into a
Speaker 15: room with these guys locked up in a room naked.
Speaker 15: You know, they can you know, they could kill them, obviously,
Speaker 15: rate them, drug them whatever. But instead of giving into
Speaker 15: that and just say, oh, let's we know what's going on,
Speaker 15: let's just make it legal. No, crack down the damn
Speaker 15: crime of it. Crack down on their pens. I mean really,
Speaker 15: that's that's the solution to just every woman's body's for sale.
Speaker 15: Let them do it, because they're doing it anyway. No,
Speaker 15: stop this. It's crazy. And those guys, I'm sorry you
Speaker 15: guys that are all saying it's okay you don't want
Speaker 15: to go on these long term dates.
Speaker 14: You guys are pigs.
Speaker 15: Yeah, I'm serious, I'm blue pigs.
Speaker 1: So, Stacy, do you think that the people that purchase
Speaker 1: the you know, people that are the John's that sorry Johnny,
Speaker 1: but use that term. Do you think they should be
Speaker 1: in prison?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 11: I don't think they.
Speaker 15: Should be in prison at all. Our prisons, you know,
Speaker 15: are overcrowded right now of you know, these really violent criminals. No,
Speaker 15: but find them, you know, ticket isn't anything app find them,
Speaker 15: make them pay for that eventually if they keep doing it,
Speaker 15: then yeah, I mean maybe go to prison. You know,
Speaker 15: if people just don't respect law and order, there needs
Speaker 15: to be prison time for that. There's there's guys that
Speaker 15: have rap sheets that are a mile long, so that
Speaker 15: doesn't work either, so that at some point we've got
Speaker 15: to crack down on that, and maybe they need time.
Speaker 15: But no, just you're just going out a couple of
Speaker 15: times and you know, finding yourself a prostitute or whatever.
Speaker 15: I don't think that they should be in jail. There's
Speaker 15: just not enough space. But find them, hit them with
Speaker 15: their wallet and hit them with their work. Just like
Speaker 15: the dads that don't pay child support, they get their
Speaker 15: paychecks confiscated and everybody knows about that. Do that, Shame
Speaker 15: them like that and make them pay, but don't give
Speaker 15: into it and just say yet, no problem, we're going
Speaker 15: to give into it. You know these women are for sale?
Speaker 15: No they're not. We can do better than that.
Speaker 1: Well, I really appreciate your passionate argument on this, Stacy,
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for the call. Appreciate it. Let's go
Speaker 1: to Teddy and Burbank.
Speaker 3: Teddy, Hello, Hey, how are you Randy doing great?
Speaker 16: Norma Jean Almadovar wrote a book called From Cop to
Speaker 16: Call Girl. She did this basically in conjunction with founding Coyote,
Speaker 16: which was a woman's projection group, and it will open
Speaker 16: your eyes.
Speaker 1: I'll have to check it out. Thanks so much for
Speaker 1: the call. Appreciate it. We got time for one more here,
Speaker 1: Mike and Pataloma. Keep it clean, Mike, Hello.
Speaker 9: Oh hello, hey.
Speaker 12: You know, I have a whole different take on this,
Speaker 12: and it starts with I took my aunt to her
Speaker 12: doctor's appointment, and then as I came in, I saw
Speaker 12: all these men there. It's a female doctor, and so
Speaker 12: I asked the receptionist, you know, how come there's so
Speaker 12: many men here? She says, well, the doctor, you know,
Speaker 12: comes from an old school where they do prostate massage.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, I know exactly where you're going with
Speaker 1: that story. I'm so sorry we're out of time. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much for the call. Well that was a
Speaker 1: lot of fun interesting debate, wasn't it. That's what we
Speaker 1: do here. There's no wrong answers. Thank y'all so much
Speaker 1: for being a part of this show. I gotta go
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