WEBVTT - San Francisco turns the corner on Homelessness while Los Angeles doubles down on stupid 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:03.280 And we continue at one oh five in the afternoon 0:00:03.320 --> 0:00:07.119 on The John Phillips Show, broadcasting live from San Francisco. 0:00:08.080 --> 0:00:10.959 Mister Randy Wang's in Culver City. Every time you say 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:13.360 it like that, it feels like an attack. You're in 0:00:13.600 --> 0:00:19.799 San Francisco and I'm in Culver City. It's like you 0:00:19.840 --> 0:00:22.360 can always tell who's going to win the boxing match 0:00:22.720 --> 0:00:26.279 based on how the ring announcer introduces them. Johnny, we 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:28.080 ran out of time for this, but I just have 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:31.520 to play you this little snippet of KPIX sitting down 0:00:31.560 --> 0:00:36.760 with Floyd Mitchell because he might be the worst interview 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:37.960 guest of all time? 0:00:38.720 --> 0:00:42.159 Can you help residents understand why you didn't feel like 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:44.360 it was a good fit or some specifics? 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:51.880 A man a few words? Why even agree to sit 0:00:51.920 --> 0:00:54.320 down for the interview? If you're not going to explain 0:00:54.800 --> 0:00:58.480 what made you quit Oakland? Well, why do you even 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:04.160 have to ask the question? Why would anyone not want 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:07.120 to be law enforcement in Oakland? Gee? I wonder why. 0:01:08.000 --> 0:01:11.880 Who else do we gonna call Superma? 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:15.160 I mean, you don't need Barbara Walters for that interview. 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:22.120 Eight hundred two two two five two two two is 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:26.880 telephone number one eight hundred two to two five two to two. Well, 0:01:26.959 --> 0:01:30.080 we have a couple of dueling stories about the bums today, 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:35.160 which reminds me of Barbara Ferrara and Eric Garcetti when 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:38.800 they teamed up for the dueling Ums. Do you remember 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:42.000 that during COVID Randy, Oh, do I remember it? I 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:54.040 bet you. I still have it on here. M I 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:57.400 still haven't deleted that off of the main board. Ah, 0:01:57.440 --> 0:02:01.600 the good old days. This is a duel and homeless 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:05.560 encampment story for you. Let's start in southern California in 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:12.520 unincorporated La County, unincorporated Holly Mitchell Territory, mindful of a 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:17.280 massive homeless encampment full of RVs and tents that was 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:21.160 cleared a year ago that is back and bigger than ever. 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:26.160 If you live in Holly Mitchell's district, you're I'm your own. 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:28.600 You do whatever we can to get people to come. 0:02:28.800 --> 0:02:32.200 Tacos balloons. 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:38.960 For more on the encampment. Here is Fox eleven and 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:41.919 the Greatest Guy, Matthew Sedorf. 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:45.880 A massive homeless encampment stretching for a half mile in 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:50.320 West Rancho, Domingus. Entire roads covered with RV's tents and 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:53.400 fortified shocks our Matthew Cedar have got the tip from 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:56.000 a viewer who said calls to the county had long 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:57.120 gone unanswered. 0:02:57.680 --> 0:03:01.200 If you are not getting any response from local government 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:04.959 and you have a legitimate beef slide into Seedorf's DMS, 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:08.519 this guy gets results. Yeah, And let me just tell 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:12.240 you something else. If you see RV as far as 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:16.520 the I and there isn't Mount Rushmore in the background, 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:19.120 it's a failure of government. 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:21.840 Story you will only see on Fox eleven. 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:24.720 Well ignored no more. 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:29.000 A sprawling homeless and canon now dominates wes Rancho Dominguez, 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:33.760 stretching a half mile along West Compton boulevards or shelter. 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:38.520 Our estimate more than two hundred RV's tents and fortified shacks. 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:44.480 Two hundred RV's tents and shacks, that's a lot of 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:45.280 cousin eddies. 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:48.160 Our estimate more than two hundred RVs. 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:51.440 So that's two hundred RVs all dumping their sewage right 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:54.840 there on the street. Can you imagine the smell in 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:58.360 that neighborhood? You know, Katie, next time you want to 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:00.800 point out an environmental crisis, I don't even think you 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:02.600 need to go down to the Tijuana river. 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:03.960 Who can smell right here? 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:11.280 Our estimate more than two hundred RV's tense and fortified 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:12.880 checks the house. 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:18.680 To you, she's got a living room now? Oh yeah. 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:22.920 Also again, I don't want to be stereotypical. I know 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:24.560 there are a lot of people from a lot of 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:29.080 different circumstances. But I can just hear meth voice to 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:33.680 the house to you, you think she still calls it 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:36.120 the master bedroom or do you think she's updated her 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:37.880 language to be politically correct? 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:40.480 That's my bedrooms? 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:40.800 Do you. 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:45.920 Sarah walking closet? 0:04:46.279 --> 0:04:48.840 Do you get power? Yeah? 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:50.120 Through the streetlight right there right? 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:54.520 How is that not something that we can enforce? People 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:59.680 stealing power from the utility poles? And why do they 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:02.680 even need to steal power from the utility poles? It 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:05.520 sounds like they've all been hit by lightning so many times. 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:07.400 All they have to do is wave their hand and 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:10.240 turn the lights on. Well, they're gonna need power so 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:12.159 they can turn on They're stolen. 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:16.880 TV through the tree line right there, right. 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:20.279 And of course all these people have dogs, and I 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:23.120 guarantee the dogs are being abused, and nobody in government 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:27.359 seems to care about that. Yeah, why is it? Why 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:30.640 is it when you look at people who own animals, 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:34.200 we have animals in their possession. It's always people who 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:37.120 just love dogs, the Betty Whites of the world, the 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:40.040 Bob Barkers of the world. And then on the other 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:43.680 side of the spectrum, you have people who take math 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:46.599 for breakfast, lunch, and dinner and the dog is just 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:51.479 an accessory. Oh it's worse than that. There's been investigations 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:55.279 that show that the drug addicts on skid row are 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:58.320 using their dogs to test if their meth has any 0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:02.080 fentanyl in it. Wait, so the dogs are methaddics too, 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:04.800 not by choice. 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:10.400 Through the tree line right there, right countless dogs, trash 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:13.400 piled by the ton hopper, wild or cable use condoms. 0:06:13.720 --> 0:06:16.080 We sure want the world here for the World Cup 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:21.000 in just a couple of weeks. Again, I guess we 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:26.719 should be happy they're using protection. Well, the condoms tells 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:29.960 you a different story. And we had some people point 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:31.920 this out to us when we're doing that condom filled 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:33.880 homeless in camp. But that Seedorf have talked about a 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:38.720 while back. The condoms don't tell you that the homeless 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:43.320 are fornicating amongst each other. The condoms tell you that 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:50.719 the homeless RVs intents are also dens of prostitution who 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:54.560 could get turned on having sex with someone in a 0:06:54.680 --> 0:07:00.240 homeless methaddics RV Creepy dudes gotta do a creepy do's 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:03.240 got to do. The swallow wells of the world got 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:07.320 to get off somewhere. Maybe I'm just old fashioned, but 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:09.560 can't they just go back to Thailand. 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:14.680 Through the streetlight right there right, countless dogs, trash piled 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:16.600 by the ton hopper wire cable. 0:07:16.880 --> 0:07:20.120 Oh yeah, stolen copper wire of course, all over the place. Well, 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:23.520 we can't criminalize that, Hugo said as much. 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:25.960 You know, let's criminalize kind of lists of converters, let's 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:27.000 criminalize copper. 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:30.040 Let me just point out, for the umptyam time, that 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:33.280 guy is up for re election and if Hollywood and 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:37.840 Echo Park gives him another four years, that's on y'all. 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:40.760 Clap that up. Do not vote for him. 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:45.360 LA and illegal hookups of cable and wines running straight 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:47.840 from county infrastructure into shelters. 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:51.800 What are they also stealing the cable? I don't think 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:55.560 they're paying for anything. Spectrum, get on it. 0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:57.040 How long have you been out here? 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:00.880 I have to go, so I have to stay where 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:03.200 I am, but you have plenty of places to go. 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:10.200 I can't stand this mentality of I can't go anywhere, 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:13.600 so I need to stay here and create filth. No, 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:17.680 I'm telling you this is where the local government not 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:22.040 cooperating with the FEDS is awful. If you really truly 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:24.880 wanted to clean these encampments up, you need to send 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:27.760 the police in and find all of the warrants for 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:30.640 a rest. I guarantee you you're gonna hit about half 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:34.040 of them, if not more, just from the outstanding warrants. 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:36.640 And then you're gonna find a bunch of them who 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:39.600 are here illegally, and you need to send them back 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:42.559 to wherever it is that they came from. And then 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:45.520 if you observe people breaking the law, you can arrest 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:49.240 them for that. You don't need any special laws, you 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:53.119 don't need any special permission to bust up the homeless encampments. 0:08:53.679 --> 0:09:00.560 You just go in and enforce existing laws and bye bye. 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:02.440 So I had to stay right him, but I don't 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:02.840 like it. 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:05.720 Well now spill it into the neighborhood. So Petie is 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:08.080 like the only thing we can do is actual. 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:10.800 Leaf alt send me this tip on Instagram, calling conditions 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:12.520 horrible after multiple Can. 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:14.720 You imagine if you live in one of these neighborhoods 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:18.040 that just been completely taken over and because you're an 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:22.040 unincorporated LA Holly Mitchell is your mayor. And Holly Mitchell, 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:26.480 don't give a damn Willie No, it's Lord of the flies. 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:29.920 ALTI send me this tip on Instagram calling conditions horrible 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:33.000 after multiple calls to officials went unanswered. 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:36.280 And Holly Mitchell deserves more blame than almost anybody for 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:39.920 this nonsense. Before she was the La County Supervisor, she 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:43.080 was in the state Senate and she authored the Housing 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:46.560 First Bill, which meant that you could take your drugs 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:50.440 to the shelters, which have made the homeless problem way 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:56.240 worse from She doesn't get a lot of attention, but 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:59.240 she is one of the most destructive politicians in all 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:00.240 of California. 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:03.440 There's a lot of people out here who have overdosed, 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:05.920 a lot of shootings, a lot of stabbings. 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:07.920 Come to work and it's all everything's on fire. 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:13.040 There's car accidents, there's people fighting butt naked. Whoa sounds 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:19.800 like Norman Rockwell's America, doesn't it? How do you what now? 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:24.360 What institutes the butt naked fighting. I don't know when 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:27.200 people on meth want to fight. I guess they need 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:28.160 to nude up. 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:31.600 Coming to work and it's all everything's on fire, there's 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:33.960 car accidents, there's people fighting butt naked. 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:35.239 These orange camera. 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:39.360 I can't wait for people from Iran to come to 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:41.600 the World Cup game that's going to be in La 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:44.199 and be like, I want to go back to the 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:46.960 war zone. 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:49.880 These orange cam rails were put in a year ago 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:52.440 during a major and Cameron clean up on Verdondo Beach 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:54.959 Boulevard to prevent RVs from parking here. 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:57.000 They just moved one street over. 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:00.280 This was that clean up an La County crew who's 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:01.120 clearing the area. 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:03.760 The goal is to get the people help that they need. 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:07.559 That guys such a hack. Oh yeah, that's the sheriff, 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:13.440 Robert Luna, and he is also up for reelection. And 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:16.200 if you feel that Robert Luna has been a complete 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:19.360 failure as La County Sheriff, well I need you to 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:23.440 not feel that way. Why in the world does he 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:27.200 even want that job because he comes from law enforcement, 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:30.240 so he knows better. But he's got to do the 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:33.800 bidding of the Board of supervisors, who are four out 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:37.160 of five or crazy, and he's happy to do it. 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:40.920 The goal is to get the people help that they need. 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:44.800 Fast forward almost a year, more RVs, more people, more 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:45.440 help needed. 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:48.240 They came, they took me, and they put me in 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:48.800 the hotel. 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:50.000 Has it helped you a lot? 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:50.880 Wow? 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:54.959 Not really, because all we're doing is shoving drug addicts 0:11:54.960 --> 0:12:00.760 in hotels and calling it a success. People belong in 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:02.120 mental institutions. 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:06.680 I mean, my hotel's not paid and I don't know 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:07.720 what's going to happen with me. 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:10.000 Hope we can. By the way, that lady that he's 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:12.480 talking to, because I was listening to two different reports 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:14.040 and there was one where he was going back and 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:18.040 forth Seedorf with Christine de Vine. This woman gets placed 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:21.400 in a hotel instead of giving up her RV, which 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:24.959 I thought was the whole idea. Her son takes over 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:27.880 the RV and she leaves the hotel to go visit 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:32.960 the sun. In the RV. I wonder if she sticks 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:34.760 around for Hampton and breakfast. 0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:38.600 I mean, my hotel's not paid and I don't know 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:39.640 what's going to happen with me. 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:42.479 Hopefully we can help get you some answers. 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:45.600 Heeah, we're how much money would the city, the county, 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:50.600 and the state have if we stopped subsidizing bombs. Every 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:53.400 dollar that you spend on that woman, unless it's going 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:56.160 to a mental institution, is a wasted dollar. 0:12:56.920 --> 0:13:00.000 Yeah, we're we're we're looking for a senior County depth 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:02.480 for homelessness and housing tells us the issue has been 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:06.080 raised with Supervisor Holly Mitchell and they'll continue working on it. 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:10.760 Does the county come by and offer resources or help, Yeah, I. 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:11.360 Won't take it. 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:15.480 Boy, that high cost of housing's really a pain in 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:18.240 the ass, isn't it. We make it as easy as 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:21.280 possible for you to do meth on the streets. We 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:25.880 literally give you the paraphernalia for it, funded by the county. 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:29.440 We don't want to punish you when you steal from people, 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:31.840 so you have the ten dollars to buy your math. 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:34.520 But at the end of the day, we allow. 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:37.720 The drug dealers to be embedded in these encampments because 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:41.520 we know that's going on, and we, while you're high 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:45.559 on meth, beg you to come inside, and you're allowed 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:49.400 to say no, no, thank you. And it costs us 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:53.720 a fortune. We are going broke in the city and 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:56.640 the county and the state because we are straight up 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:59.880 subsidizing drug addicts every single day. 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:04.120 Well County workers keep offering help. No one we met 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:05.720 Wednesday wants to leave. 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:10.600 Of course, because why would they don't. 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:13.800 Like shelter like shelter, I don't like it, oh, just 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:16.440 because it's there too many people in the shelter. 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:20.400 You know, Los Angeles needs to change their motto Los 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:23.359 Angeles where beggars can be choosers. 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:28.720 Back out here, you'll notice how dark it is. 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:32.160 All the street lights are out, likely from copper wire theft. 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:37.600 Seriously, it is this. We spend so much money to 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:40.840 live here and the dregs of society gets to destroy 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:43.680 all of it and they get all the benefits. You know, 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:47.000 it won't be long before Oakland starts looking down their 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:51.120 notices at Los Angeles. I'm telling you that's happening right now. 0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:53.560 Oh my god. They melt to the basketball court. San 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:58.680 Francisco took the right turn. Oakland is seeming to starting 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:01.080 to take the right turn. They did not elect Barbara Lee, 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:03.560 but you have people like Ken Houston on that city 0:15:03.560 --> 0:15:08.080 council making some instrumental change. They actually changed their policy 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:11.480 for over six years, and now they are abating homeless encampments. 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:15.160 They're going to find people for illegal dumping. Los Angeles 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:19.000 continues to steer in the worst possible direction. 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:23.160 If you're feeling down, if you're feeling blue, let's get 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:25.440 help for you. 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:27.400 No word when not cleanup could take place. 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:31.480 Reporting in West Rancho, Domingas Matthew Sedorf Fox eleven News. 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:36.520 There you go a massive homeless encampment in unincorporated Holly 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:40.400 Mitchell's district where they cleaned it up a year ago, 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:43.520 and it's back and bigger than ever. You have to 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:46.840 be mindful of that. Now. Let's contrast this to what's 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:51.240 going on in San Francisco. San Francisco just passed a 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:55.200 motion to be able to offer to the homeless drug 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:59.120 free housing. For more, here's KPIX in the Bay. 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:02.120 We begin in San Francisco, where a plan to impose 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:07.040 new rules at supportive housing sites has divided community members 0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:10.680 and city leaders. It's the latest flashpoint in a year's 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:14.280 long debate over how to address rampant drug use in 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:14.760 the city. 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:19.360 Overdose don't allow it. If you tolerate it, you get 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:19.920 more of it. 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:23.320 Overdose has reached a record high in twenty twenty three 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:27.560 and remained much higher than pre pandemic levels. Kenny Choi 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:29.280 breaks down this new proposal. 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:33.240 For decades, San Francisco has followed a housing first model, 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:36.760 getting people off the streets without requiring them to be sober, 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:38.000 and that has. 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:41.080 Led to and this is the real statistics coming from 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:45.160 Tom Wolf, thirty percent of all overdose debts in San 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:50.840 Francisco happened in housing, which means their programs, you're failing. 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:54.040 But some city leaders believe there's growing demand for more 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:59.400 drug free environments. San Francisco's permanent supportive housing system, designed 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:03.120 to help people transition out of homelessness and address addiction 0:17:03.200 --> 0:17:07.199 with services, has long operated under one key rule. You 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:09.240 can't be evicted just for using. 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:11.880 Drugs, which means you can bring your drugs, you can 0:17:11.920 --> 0:17:14.920 do your drugs. Heck, you can have the gang member 0:17:15.040 --> 0:17:18.640 drug dealer from Honduras drop off the drugs in your 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:22.640 hotel room. Those homeless shelters must have looked like Graceland. 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:26.560 But supervisor Matt Dorsey argues the city's current system isn't 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:30.480 working for everyone, especially for residents trying to recover from addiction. 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:33.639 He wants to see more drug free housing options. 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:35.640 The reality is there are a lot of people who 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:38.040 are trying to get off the street and get sober, 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:41.760 and when we put them into drug tolerant environments where 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:44.960 it's a chaotic place and there's drug use in the hallway. 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:48.040 Yeah, if somebody says I want to turn my life around, 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:50.960 I need help, and you put them inside an sro 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:54.960 in the tenderline that's full of meth, that's real hard 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:57.000 to have the willpower to resist it when it's in 0:17:57.040 --> 0:18:00.560 your face. How do you expect the program to work 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:01.800 under those conditions? 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:06.679 A lot of drug related bad behavior playing out. It 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:09.400 can be a very chaotic environment. 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:14.840 Supporters and opponents showed up in full force in front 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:18.399 of city Hall. Junebug Koha is a housing advocate who 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:19.720 has experienced Junebug. 0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:23.280 I'm wonder if that's on the birth certificate. 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:27.560 June Bug Kloha is a housing advocate who has experienced homelessness. 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:30.280 She believes the proposed change will land more people on 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:30.880 the streets. 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:35.080 If I'm dealing with homelessness, that's trauma right there. 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:39.240 And so it just really is it's going to create more. 0:18:39.119 --> 0:18:42.639 Chaos and just cause more harm to our community. 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:45.960 It's causing more harm to tell people they can't keep 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:50.160 injecting poison into their veins. Well, the electeds believe that's 0:18:50.200 --> 0:18:52.800 the compassionate thing to do. 0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:56.160 Dorsy says or relapse would not result in someone's immediate eviction. 0:18:56.560 --> 0:19:00.159 A person's conduct would have to be substantially disruptive. His 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:03.440 proposal with halt city funding for new supportive housing projects 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:07.160 unless they agree to allow evictions for drug use only. 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:09.439 For that is a step in the right direction. It 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:13.160 makes it hard because the state's policy, thanks to Holly Mitchell, 0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:15.919 is you can do all the drugs you want in 0:19:16.000 --> 0:19:18.199 the housing that we're paying for you to be in. 0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:21.600 You just have to stick with it, and you have 0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:28.560 to enforce the rules, all right. So there you have it. 0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:33.960 Two different approaches. In Los Angeles, complete chaos, RVs, fires, 0:19:34.359 --> 0:19:38.359 naked people fighting. In San Francisco, they're letting you know, 0:19:38.520 --> 0:19:40.679 if you're going to stay at one of the city shelters, 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:46.119 you have to be clean. Which model works best? I 0:19:46.160 --> 0:19:49.399 think we all know the answer to that. Eight hundred 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:52.800 two two two five two two two is telephone number 0:19:53.200 --> 0:19:56.000 one eight hundred two two two five two two two. 0:19:56.680 --> 0:19:58.639 If you'd like to email the show, you can do so. 0:19:58.960 --> 0:20:02.199 Johnny don't like show at gmail dot com. That's Johnny 0:20:02.200 --> 0:20:05.760 don't like show at gmail dot com, and Randy, you're 0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:08.440 monitoring the mail bag, Chuck writes in at Johnny don't 0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:12.480 like show at gmail dot com. Happy Friday, guys. If 0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:16.000 you're feeling down, if you're feeling blue, we have free 0:20:16.080 --> 0:20:17.560 drug paraphernalia for you. 0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:21.680 If you're feeling down, if you're feeling blue, let's get 0:20:21.760 --> 0:20:22.440 help for you. 0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:27.920 And right now it's time to open up the California 0:20:28.000 --> 0:20:28.760 Crime Blodder. 0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:30.439 It's happened yet again. 0:20:32.640 --> 0:20:39.080 Nice see. Time for the California Crime Blodder. And today's 0:20:39.080 --> 0:20:44.119 first edition takes us to Napa. So we've told you 0:20:44.160 --> 0:20:48.720 this before, but we're gonna tell you again. Putting physical 0:20:48.920 --> 0:20:53.960 checks in the mail, like very very very pricey property 0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:59.119 tax checks is not safe. And lots of people have 0:20:59.200 --> 0:21:02.840 been sending in their property tax checks in Napa through 0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:07.240 the mail, only to have the mail stolen, the checks washed, 0:21:07.600 --> 0:21:11.080 and the money going to some criminal, and then the 0:21:11.119 --> 0:21:14.320 California Tax Board coming to you and saying, hey, you 0:21:14.359 --> 0:21:17.560 still owe us the money. And let me tell you. 0:21:18.119 --> 0:21:21.439 They might not know how to educate the children, they 0:21:21.520 --> 0:21:24.800 might not know how to fill the potholes. They might 0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:27.160 not know how to make sure that people don't rip 0:21:27.200 --> 0:21:30.680 off the EDED system. But if you owe them one 0:21:30.760 --> 0:21:34.440 red scent, they will put a helicopter over your house 0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:37.200 and they will have the state control or descend from 0:21:37.240 --> 0:21:40.840 a cable down your chimney to get it. For more 0:21:41.160 --> 0:21:45.119 on the NAPA check Thievan here is ABC seven in 0:21:45.200 --> 0:21:45.600 the Bay. 0:21:46.040 --> 0:21:48.440 We're learning more about the growing crisis at the Napa 0:21:48.480 --> 0:21:52.200 County tax Collector's office, where more than sixty property tax 0:21:52.280 --> 0:21:54.640 checks have been reported lost or stolen. 0:21:56.240 --> 0:21:59.719 We had sixty lost checks in the last two days. 0:22:01.080 --> 0:22:03.800 The checks are being stolen and altered through a type 0:22:03.800 --> 0:22:06.640 of fraud called check washing. It's a story we first 0:22:06.640 --> 0:22:09.960 brought you yesterday, and today more victims are coming forward. 0:22:10.080 --> 0:22:13.480 ABC seven News reporter Cornell Bernard is live and Napa 0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:14.760 with new information tonight. 0:22:14.800 --> 0:22:18.840 Cordell, Hey, Dan and Ama. Yeah, it is the largest 0:22:18.880 --> 0:22:22.160 case of fraud this tax collector's office has ever seen. 0:22:22.240 --> 0:22:25.440 More victims coming forward by the day, including a Napa 0:22:25.480 --> 0:22:26.240 Belly vineyard. 0:22:27.600 --> 0:22:29.639 If you don't have an impound account because you already 0:22:29.640 --> 0:22:34.400 paid off your mortgage, use the website and pay digitally. 0:22:34.520 --> 0:22:36.840 At least there's a track record of it at this point. 0:22:37.280 --> 0:22:39.760 Well and then you get Hilton Honors points too well. 0:22:39.760 --> 0:22:41.440 There is that can you pay property tax with a 0:22:41.480 --> 0:22:43.800 credit card? I think you can pay anything with a 0:22:43.840 --> 0:22:45.720 credit card. There might be a feed though. 0:22:46.440 --> 0:22:48.800 It was one of the largest checks that we write 0:22:49.119 --> 0:22:49.880