1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:05,559 Speaker 1: Now back on Greg Papa and Greg Silver on KNBR. 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: The sports Leader. Filling in for Greg Papa is John 3 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: Dickinson on the Sports Leader. 4 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 2: Papa and Silver with JD is sponsored by Redwood Credit 5 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 2: Union for you for a community for seventy five years. 6 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 2: Join our CU today at REDWOODCU dot org. 7 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 3: About forty minutes left them. We'll get it over to 8 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 3: journey work. 9 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 2: A lot of giants talk after they got their first 10 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 2: win in the Tony Vitello Era. Go to catch up 11 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 2: with Marcus Thompson as we got the update on Steph Curry. 12 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: Practice today will be out Wednesday, doubtful for Thursday, but 13 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 2: there's a lot of optimism and signs that he may 14 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 2: make a return to the court after missing the last 15 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 2: couple of months with that runner's knee issue when he 16 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: exited part way through the loss to Detroit. So haven't 17 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: checked in too much on the forty nine ers front, 18 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 2: and we got the owner's meetings going down in Arizona, 19 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 2: so this is kind of like a spring break esque, 20 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 2: just a nice social time for a lot of people 21 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 2: to get together. And also where we got rule propositions. 22 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: Remember the famous you can now challenge a pass interference 23 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 2: call after the Rams Saints NFC championship that didn't go well. 24 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 3: Lasted about a year now, learning you can. 25 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 2: Declare an on sidekick at any point in the game, 26 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 2: they still got to wildly fix the on side kick 27 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 2: rule like that. One drives me absolutely insane. But I 28 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 2: know Papa probably has a lot of opinions about the 29 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 2: different rules of the NFL that we can touch back 30 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 2: on when when. 31 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 3: He makes his return. 32 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 2: As far as the forty nine ers front, more comments 33 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: about Mike Evans and a lot of questions still going 34 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 2: around about Brandon Ayuk, who still remains a member of 35 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 2: the roster, because the forty nine ers are hoping that 36 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 2: maybe they can find some way to get compensation for him, 37 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 2: or at the very least, well releasing him right now 38 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 2: just gives him all the power to go and select 39 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 2: his own team and orchestrate this possible exit he'd been 40 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 2: looking for the whole time. So Trent Williams still out there. 41 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 2: They are feeling like they're on the precipice of something. 42 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 2: Per John Lynch, could they perhaps add another piece in 43 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 2: free agency? These are all the things that we're starting 44 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 2: away as we get a little check in here. 45 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 3: A couple of weeks away from the draft. 46 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot to get into. 47 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 5: And it is that, you know, on the calendar where 48 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 5: the NFL make sure that they stay in the forefront. 49 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 2: Right. 50 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 5: You go back to the Super Bowl in February, on 51 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 5: February the eighth, and a couple of weeks later, it's 52 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 5: the Combine and you've got you know, the GM and 53 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 5: head coach. If the head coach is there, that meets 54 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 5: with the media there. Now Kyle doesn't go to the Combine, 55 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 5: and so he speaks at the owners meetings. And now 56 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 5: a month later you get the owners meetings. And in 57 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 5: between those two things you get free agency. And now 58 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 5: we're all gonna shift our attention here over the next 59 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 5: three and a half weeks to the. 60 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 4: Draft, which which is rapidly approaching. 61 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 5: It's only three weeks from Thurssday, I mean three It 62 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 5: is three weeks and two days away, so basically twenty 63 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 5: three days away from the first round on that Thursday, 64 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 5: the twenty third. 65 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 3: So well, you know how we faster famine. 66 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 2: We're gonna have the Dodgers playing the Giants at Oracle 67 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 2: the same day as we got NFL Draft coverage code no. 68 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 5: Question, and you know, potentially the Warriors in a game three, 69 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 5: you know that that night or the next night, or 70 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 5: at some point around there if they can navigate themselves 71 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 5: through the play in tournament. And hell, the Sharks could 72 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 5: even be playing a potential game three of a first 73 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 5: round series with the way they're going right around that time, 74 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 5: the night before, that night, the or the night after. 75 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 5: So there's no question there could be a ton of 76 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 5: things going on around that week as we had deeper 77 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 5: into April here, which is is going to begin tomorrow. 78 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 5: So yeah, the big things that stood out to me, 79 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 5: and I'll let you kind of take it where you 80 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 5: want as far as some of the sound, but the 81 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 5: latest on Trent Williams just in terms of it, you know, 82 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 5: continuing to I think for the first time be significantly 83 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 5: tamped down to the point where, like, I don't know 84 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 5: where your concern level is on the prospect of Trent 85 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 5: not being with a night. It just feels like Trent's 86 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 5: gonna be with the Niners at some point. I agree, 87 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 5: they'll they'll get this, they'll get this thing figured out, 88 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 5: which I think is good news. 89 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 3: Uh. 90 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 5: The Ayuk thing is is, I think pettiness and posturing 91 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 5: by the forty nine ers and and I don't blame them, 92 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 5: by the way, if they are being petty and or posturing, 93 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 5: because I think there is some belief, and I've said 94 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 5: this within the last couple of weeks, Greg, I think 95 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 5: there's a belief that that, you know, there's some kind 96 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 5: of you know, collusion going on between Ayuk and and 97 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 5: maybe the commanders or or Ayuk you know, working his 98 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 5: way to get out of this deal completely to where 99 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 5: he can just go be free and do whatever the 100 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 5: heck he wants. And so I think there's a oh, 101 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 5: you think we're just gonna let you go. Oh, by 102 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,679 Speaker 5: the way, we can absorb that cap number for a while. 103 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 5: So we're going to make it as difficult on you 104 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 5: as possible to wind up going to another team, just 105 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 5: how you made it as difficult on us as possible 106 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 5: by basically quitting on the on the team going back 107 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 5: to the last spring and not showing up. So I 108 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 5: understand and respect the pettiness going on there. I thought 109 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 5: the interesting comments from Kyle about Christian McCaffrey's workload, and 110 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 5: then Jed York with some comments on in addition to 111 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 5: the i Uke stuff on just the difference in off 112 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 5: season spending and also everybody everybody complaining about travel is 113 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 5: kind of a yawn to me. Although the Niners do 114 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 5: have the two you know, International games, one that's going 115 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 5: to be a home game and of course the one 116 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 5: in Melbourne that's gonna gonna kick everything off against the 117 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 5: Rams coming up here on that opening Thursday, which will 118 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 5: be Friday morning at ten thirty five in the morning 119 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 5: over in Australia. So I'll let you kind of take 120 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 5: it where you want. But those were kind of some 121 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 5: of the things that stood out to me as far 122 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 5: as the last few days and everybody being available, from 123 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 5: John Lynch to Kyle Shanahan to Jed York. 124 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 2: It's a nice relaxed setting and I've actually been to 125 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 2: the owner's meetings a couple of times, which is a 126 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 2: lot of fun out in Santa Clair or not sorry, 127 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,799 Speaker 2: Phoenix in Arizona. I don't know why I got Santa 128 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 2: Clara and me. I've just been thinking about the substation 129 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 2: that has since been debunked by an independent scientist. That's 130 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: not where I was going to start with it. 131 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 3: I was going to. 132 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 2: Start on the AYUK front because to bring it back 133 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 2: to the theme of halfway through the show pet peeves. Well, yeah, 134 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 2: one of my pet peeves sometimes is when people are saying, 135 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 2: why are you talking about X. Well, not anyone's done 136 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 2: it today, but there's been a lot of like, oh 137 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:21,679 Speaker 2: my gosh, move on from Ayuk. 138 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 3: He's still a forty nine er. 139 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 2: I'm not saying that he's going to be playing anymore 140 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 2: snaps with this team, but the whole move on from 141 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 2: the Ayuk situation, it's like he's not a member of 142 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 2: another team. He's not even released. Like this is still 143 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 2: very much a discussion point. 144 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 3: Now. 145 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 2: Matt Mayoko joins us every Friday and we will talk 146 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 2: to him at the end of the week. But he 147 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 2: was on the Rich Eisen Show and he had a 148 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 2: comment that effectively was like Jet York's comments about Brandon 149 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 2: Ayuk remaining with the forty nine Ers. The way he's 150 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 2: seeing that is, if you want him now, then come 151 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 2: and get him now. The Niners have no incentive to 152 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 2: get rid of him right away. They're not in a 153 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 2: hurry to do it whatsoever. So if you're the Washington 154 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 2: Commanders or theoretically any of the other thirty one teams 155 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 2: that would want to go and get him, well you 156 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,239 Speaker 2: can have him right now, if you want to offer 157 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 2: up some kind of compensation, or if you don't want 158 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 2: to do that because you know, we know that we're 159 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 2: gonna release him, then you can just have to wait 160 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 2: a while, because we're not just gonna just send him 161 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 2: out to go and do his own thing and get 162 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 2: all the leverage independence right now. 163 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, we may release him, but we're gonna release him. 164 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 5: We're gonna release him, you know, maybe on Labor Day 165 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 5: we're gonna you know, we're gonna release him, and we're 166 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 5: gonna take more money from him if he doesn't show up. 167 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 5: Now again, obviously that would be the most extreme, uh 168 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 5: you know, situation there. But yeah, and I think you know, 169 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 5: so that that sort of stalemate I guess continues based 170 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 5: on the way you know, things have played out. And 171 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 5: let's let's not forget I mean, Iyuka is the one 172 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 5: that started the weird with. 173 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 4: The with the failure to show up and all of that. 174 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 5: And again I think there is some as I mentioned, 175 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 5: internal kind of wondering like what's going on? And was 176 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 5: I you sort of colluding with the commanders and that hey, 177 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 5: I I you know you would they wouldn't trade me there. 178 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 5: This is where I want to go. I'll just leave 179 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 5: all the money on the table. You pick me up, 180 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 5: and I'm gonna be a great player for you, and 181 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 5: you can you can. I'll prove it for a year 182 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 5: and then you can you can give me a big 183 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 5: deal and I can be you know, one of Jayden 184 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 5: Daniel's number number one, number two targets here for years 185 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 5: to come. So I actually respect the pettiness in play 186 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 5: as it relates to the forty nine ers. I gotta 187 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 5: be honest, I'd be the I'd be the same way 188 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 5: and letting this thing play out, not in that you 189 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 5: necessarily even need to get a seventh round pick, and 190 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 5: that's exactly what we're talking about. And we're talking about 191 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 5: a seventh round pick, a conditional seven, a swap of seven's, 192 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 5: whatever it would be in twenty twenty seven or twenty 193 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 5: twenty nine, like whatever it winds up being. It's just 194 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 5: a means to say, hey, you're not gonna just get 195 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 5: completely everything you want after the way you screwed us 196 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 5: on your own terms, and we're also not gonna lie 197 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 5: you get to the place that you wanted to be 198 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 5: before you had the ability to truly be free as 199 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 5: a as a free agent. 200 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 4: So I get it. 201 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 5: I respect it. It's not something that's, you know, big 202 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 5: time on the radar. Although I think we all would 203 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 5: have anticipated greg that Brandon Ayuk would have been off 204 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 5: the forty nine ers roster by by March the thirty first. 205 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I would have as well. 206 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 2: But as far as what they are choosing to do, 207 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 2: I fully understand it. And let's just say there is 208 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 2: some kind of compensation swap, even if it's as as insignificant, 209 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 2: maybe as seventh round swaps. Well, if you're the forty 210 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 2: nine ers, why would you not do anything possible to 211 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 2: try to help your team gain any kind of competitive 212 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 2: advantage in what turned out to be a completely disastrous situation. 213 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 5: But it's more about it's more about the control and 214 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 5: the power than of course, the actual draft compensation. Of course, 215 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 5: like let's let's not act like that's really the deal, 216 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 5: like like the draft compensation. And I mean, I'll say it, 217 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 5: maybe others disagree with me, that's fine, but the draft 218 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 5: compensation part of it is essentially meaningless. 219 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm just saying, if there's a possibility to 220 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 2: get even any kind of advantage from it, why not, 221 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 2: like you have no reason to just let him go 222 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 2: right now, knowing that you could do this leading up 223 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 2: to the season. So I get where the forty nine 224 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 2: ers are coming from on that front completely. 225 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 5: Especially if you think he's especially if you think he's 226 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 5: got the ability to be healthy and be really productive, 227 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 5: which I think that the Niners probably, you know, there's 228 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 5: a thought that like, oh damn, like he works his 229 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 5: way out of here with all of the weirdness and 230 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 5: now he's going to go basically be you know, the 231 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 5: Brandon Ayuk of like three years ago. And again maybe 232 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 5: he can't physically, you know, be capable of doing that. 233 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 5: But I think there's a sense, if you're the Niners, 234 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 5: that you don't want to have this thing come off 235 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 5: like you completely got played, and so you're you're handling 236 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 5: it in a manner to where you try to try 237 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 5: to limit that damage. 238 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,719 Speaker 2: So to speak up, Another one of the topics I 239 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 2: would like to get into is the Christian McCaffrey workload, 240 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 2: because we were doing shows together in August and last 241 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 2: year leading up to the season, navigating through the preseason, 242 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 2: that was a long stretch when we were trying to 243 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 2: figure out what the forty nine ers of twenty twenty 244 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 2: five were even going. 245 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 3: To look like. 246 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 2: About thirty minutes before one of the shows we did, 247 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 2: Brian Robinson Junior was traded to the forty nine ers. 248 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 2: It was clear that the Commanders were going to move 249 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 2: on from him anyway, and we spent a lot of 250 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 2: time on Brian Robinson that day. Robinson ended up getting 251 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 2: a career low in carries for his young career, and 252 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey got a career high in carries and touches. 253 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 2: Shanahan says, they're going to have to find a way 254 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 2: to lessen the workload of McCaffrey. Do we believe him 255 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 2: this time? Let's talk about that. Next, It's Papa and 256 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 2: Silver only here. I'm the Sports Leader KNBRB. 257 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: Sports Leader Papa and Silver Now continues live from the 258 00:11:55,200 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: KNBR Casino Matrix Progressive jackpot Studios Casino Matrix Progressive Jackpotter Here. 259 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: Where are you just drop in? Please play responsibly. 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Maybe we'll get some resolution with a 268 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 2: little April Fool's Day tomorrow. 269 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 3: Make sure you get your pranks in order. 270 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 2: Though we are still in the month of March, we 271 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 2: have been out at the owners meetings, at least metaphorically 272 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 2: as we've been playing some sound, revisiting quotes and the 273 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 2: forty nine ers have a lot to sort through. We 274 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 2: talked about the brand and I you ex side of it, 275 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 2: and then Kyle Shanahan said something we've heard before, but 276 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 2: actions haven't necessarily backed that up. That is wanting to 277 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 2: limit the workload of running back Christian McCaffrey. So you know, 278 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 2: Shanahan said, in order for us to be the running 279 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 2: team we want to be, in order to have Christian 280 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 2: be as good as he can be throughout the whole year, 281 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 2: we've got to get someone to help him. Now, it 282 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 2: sounds like a logical goal, right, and the fan base 283 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 2: has talked about it a bunch and JD you even 284 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 2: brought this up to McCaffrey himself when we were out 285 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 2: of training camp last year and he gave us the 286 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 2: famous SoundBite, I didn't need less touches when talking about 287 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 2: the Achilles tendonitis and having to go through that. But 288 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 2: it is true that for us much as Christian McCaffrey 289 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 2: is an advantage, for as much as you want him 290 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 2: out there on the field, he is going to be 291 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 2: the leader of this offense. This team will go as 292 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 2: far as Christian McCaffrey can take them. 293 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 3: That also means that you need Christian McCaffrey to. 294 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 2: Be somewhat durable and ready to go when we're getting 295 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,479 Speaker 2: into the colder months of December, and then we've got January, 296 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 2: if the Niners can get to the playoffs, and then 297 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 2: the ultimate goal is playing that big game in February. 298 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 2: If you want to have Christian McCaffrey readily available and productive, 299 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 2: you're gonna have to find solutions to mix somebody in. 300 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 2: Doesn't mean he needs to always be off the field, 301 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 2: doesn't mean you need to. 302 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 3: Drastically cut back. 303 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 2: But what he did last year in his age twenty 304 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 2: nine season three hundred eleven carries, four hundred and thirteen 305 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 2: touches in the regular season, plus thirty seven more in 306 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 2: two playoff games. 307 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 3: One hundred and twenty nine targets. 308 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 2: That is just not sustainable for a position that gets 309 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 2: beat up in the way that it does. 310 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 5: I will believe it when I see it, Greg, I 311 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 5: will believe that they're gonna lessen the load when I 312 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 5: see it. And I don't know, you know, is it 313 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 5: gonna be Jordan James. Is it gonna be somebody that's 314 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 5: a non drafted free agent that they look to add 315 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 5: to the mix. What do the forty nine ers do 316 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 5: to come up with somebody that is capable enough to 317 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,479 Speaker 5: where you feel like you can take the load. 318 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 4: Off of Christian McCaffrey. 319 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 5: Because to me, I don't think it's been you know, 320 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 5: lack of quality intent to lessen the load. It's just 321 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 5: been the fact that the forty nine ers have been 322 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 5: so dependent on Christian McCaffrey he could be on the 323 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 5: field that it just leads to these scenarios where you 324 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 5: don't feel comfortable taking him off because you think you're 325 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 5: losing so much that you're not going to be as 326 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 5: effective on offense and be able to move the chains. 327 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 5: And so to me, like I've understood it, I know 328 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 5: I've I've kind of been on the on the in 329 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 5: the minority in terms of the opinion on it, it's 330 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 5: been Hey, if you need the guy, and you you know, 331 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 5: a lot of the times haven't been able to function 332 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 5: when he hasn't been on the field consistently, even going 333 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 5: back to prior to when you acquired him back in 334 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 5: twenty and twenty two. Then I think, if that's going 335 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 5: to be the case, then you just have to leave 336 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 5: him out there and hope for the best. Now he 337 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 5: is getting older, he wasn't as explosive last year. All 338 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 5: of those things are in play, But I think you've 339 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 5: got to come up with a viable option in terms 340 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 5: of somebody that can do some of the things that 341 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 5: he does on the field, you know, and to where 342 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 5: you don't feel like you're losing a ton offenseatively by 343 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 5: resting him. Because everybody understands the you know, in theory, 344 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 5: it's easier said than done. Yeah, take him off the field, 345 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 5: keep him fresh. You need him for the playoffs, you 346 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 5: need him. 347 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 4: For a Super Bowl run, all of those things. 348 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 5: Don't disagree with any of that, but you also can't 349 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 5: risk doing that and having it cost you games in 350 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 5: the regular season to where those games that you're saving 351 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 5: him for are less meaningful. 352 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 2: So the quote that I isolated from the story from 353 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 2: Matt Barrows about this, and it was the issue was 354 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 2: pronounced because McCaffrey's backup this last year, Brian Robinson, wasn't 355 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 2: nearly as talented in the passing game. So Shanahan says, 356 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 2: at times Bobby would take him off the field, and 357 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 2: I'm calling a play that is only for Christian and 358 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 2: he's off the field, and I don't know this, and 359 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 2: I've already said the play, and now my choice is 360 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 2: to call a time out or have someone do something 361 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 2: that they're not very good at. 362 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 3: Papa and I. 363 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 2: During this offseason, and particularly why he really likes Kenneth 364 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 2: gain Well. I also threw Rashad White into that, is 365 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 2: there was all this talk about go and get a 366 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 2: running back that can do something a little bit different 367 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 2: than Christian McCaffrey. Make it the sonic and knuckles, Jamiir Gibbs, 368 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 2: David Montgomery type of one two punch. Well, I think now, 369 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 2: and especially when I hear that quote, I'm like, go 370 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 2: and get a running back with a similar skill set 371 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 2: where you're not gonna find another Christian McCaffrey, but can 372 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:19,360 Speaker 2: you find someone who could be a potential matchup problem 373 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 2: in coverage with some linebackers, someone who you trust a 374 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 2: little bit more in the passing game, to where if 375 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 2: you do get into these kind of situations, you could 376 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 2: just give McCaffrey a little bit of a lesser load, 377 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 2: a little bits and pieces of snaps. Doesn't mean you 378 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 2: need to force taking him off the field, doesn't mean 379 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 2: that in every key snap of a third down, a 380 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 2: fourth down, or at gold Got situation, he needs to 381 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 2: be off the field. But if you have a running 382 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 2: back that has a similar kind of skill set, that's 383 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 2: the kind of thing where I'm like, maybe that makes 384 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 2: the option a little bit more clear cut for Kyle Shanahan, 385 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 2: Whereas before it's like, I'm not gonna have Brian Robinson 386 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 2: try to match up when I won with a linebacker. 387 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 3: That's not what he does. That's not what he's ever done. 388 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 4: Do they have that guy on the roster? 389 00:17:59,119 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 3: I don't think so. 390 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 5: All right, now, okay, so where where do you get 391 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 5: that guy? Cause it's I think it's it's done in 392 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 5: free agency? Like where do you Is it one of 393 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 5: your fourth round picks? Is it undrafted? 394 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:13,239 Speaker 4: Uh? Player? Is it? 395 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 5: You know there's a free agent still out there available, 396 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,439 Speaker 5: that's that's gone unsigned, because is it Jordan James? 397 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 4: Uh, you know, does he become that? 398 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 5: I mean Isaac Garrendo is still on the roster, although 399 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 5: he fell dramatically out of favor. Like it's one thing 400 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 5: that again, it's one thing to say they need to 401 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 5: do it. I don't think anybody disagrees with that. It's 402 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 5: how do you go about doing it and who is 403 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 5: actually going to be the player? Because I agree with 404 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 5: you there were players that were available to be signed 405 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 5: in free agency that never quite made like they made 406 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 5: sense in terms of the style of player. But but 407 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 5: I you know what I always felt when we talked 408 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 5: about gain Well or we talked about White from from Tampa. 409 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 5: You know, you know what I kept thinking, those guys 410 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 5: are too good. Those guys are too good. Like if 411 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 5: you bring the like you bring one of those guys in, 412 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 5: like they're gonna almost play play too much in a way, 413 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 5: uh or want to play too much, like they know 414 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 5: they can look at Christian McCaffrey and and look part 415 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 5: of the issue here is also McCaffrey and going back 416 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 5: to the question that I asked him at at at 417 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 5: training camp last year, like he didn't want to come 418 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 5: off the field. So and I and it's been hinted at, 419 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 5: it's been hinted at, uh that you know, he is 420 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 5: somebody that is hell bent on on staying on the field. 421 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 5: And and he'll and he'll tell the coaching staff I 422 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 5: want to be on the field, uh, and and that 423 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 5: it it takes some significant convincing to get him to 424 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 5: take breathers, you know, even in situations where it's it's 425 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 5: running downs. 426 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 4: Now. 427 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 5: I thought they did attempt to do it to a 428 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 5: greater extent, but it's also it's you know, the two 429 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 5: people who have the most control over it are Kyle 430 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 5: Shanahan and I think Christian McCaffrey. 431 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 4: And I think those are the two people that have 432 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 4: the most. 433 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 5: Difficult time in in you know, limiting his time on 434 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 5: the field and trying to keep him fresh. The easiest 435 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 5: way to do it is finding is finding a player 436 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 5: on the roster that you trust enough to put out 437 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 5: there enough to where you still can be a productive offense. 438 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 5: And that's the guy that again, maybe it's Jordan James, 439 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,199 Speaker 5: we haven't seen it to this point. I kind of 440 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 5: like Jordan James, but without that player on the roster currently, Greg, 441 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 5: I have a hard time believing that the forty nine 442 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 5: ers are actually able going to be able to stick 443 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 5: to that plan. I agree with that as much as 444 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 5: it's well intentioned. 445 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 2: No, and I agree with that as much as we 446 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 2: can all say that it's something that needs to be done. 447 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 3: When I was. 448 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 2: Talking about what kind of player you can go and get, 449 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 2: I don't think they have it on the roster. I 450 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 2: don't know enough about Jordan James because we only saw 451 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 2: him for that snippet of the playoff game when it 452 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 2: was already a blowout in Seattle. But I was thinking, yeah, 453 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 2: you probably go and get that guy as a later 454 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 2: draft pick, or an undrafted player, or just anyone that 455 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 2: can be someone without a serious financial commitment that maybe 456 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 2: comes in in surprises, which I understand finding those guys 457 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 2: even in the fourth round or certainly in later rounds 458 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 2: or no round at all. It's hard for guys to 459 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 2: come in and be contributors right away. So that's probably 460 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 2: not the most realistic expectation to have someone come in 461 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 2: and be the immediate RB two with a similar skill 462 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 2: set of McCaffrey and being able to execute at a 463 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 2: competent enough level where you think it's worthy of getting 464 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 2: McCaffrey off the field. But I think since they didn't 465 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 2: go and get a gain Well or a White or 466 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 2: one of those free agent markets, you're going to have 467 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 2: to find a solution that probably isn't going to cause 468 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 2: a lot of financial strain. 469 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 5: And again, is that player going to be capable enough 470 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 5: to where you do or do you just bite the 471 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 5: bullet and you do it and you say, hey, it's 472 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 5: you know, Kysh Shanahan, you got brock Purdy like like 473 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 5: figure it out, like you should be able. There's enough 474 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 5: talent to be able to figure out a means to 475 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 5: still have a functional offense at a relatively elite level 476 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 5: when we're talking about not even a couple of series, 477 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 5: but maybe a couple of of you know, a couple 478 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 5: of plays within certain series, because they did try to 479 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 5: do it at different times to the point on the 480 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 5: quote from from the Barrel story about you know, there 481 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 5: being some some scenarios or maybe they give them the 482 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 5: first couple of downs off of a series and then 483 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 5: it winds being third down and Kyle's calling a play 484 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 5: that he needs that he needs see MC out. 485 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 2: There for anyway, knbr to join our conversation, just kind 486 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 2: of wrapping up some of the Niner thoughts in general, 487 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 2: and we'll revisit them, you and I together on Friday 488 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 2: when Matt Mayoko does join the show. 489 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 3: But I'm kind of with you. As far as the Trent. 490 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 2: Williams thing, it sounds like they are planning on this 491 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 2: thing working out at some point. As far as the specifics, yeah, 492 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 2: we'll see how that ends up going based on the 493 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 2: way the off season is shaped up, and it doesn't 494 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 2: seem like there's any noise around a trade or Trent 495 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 2: Williams making a fuss about wanting out. We know he's 496 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 2: had the leverage and he's probably gonna be able to 497 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 2: find a way to stay with this team. The question 498 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 2: then becomes what would the forty nine ers plan be 499 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 2: in terms of the life after trend? And then once 500 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 2: a lot of the stuff starts getting sorted out. You 501 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 2: said it, we're three weeks away, at three weeks and 502 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 2: two days from the NFL Draft pick number twenty seven. Yeah, 503 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 2: that's late in a first round, but that's going to 504 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 2: be very fascinating as to what they ultimately do with 505 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,360 Speaker 2: that pick and what position area they decide to invest 506 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 2: in because there are multiple groups that could use the 507 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 2: investment and infusion of youth and productive youth that can 508 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 2: contribute right away. Where do they ultimately put their biggest 509 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 2: resource in pick number twenty seven. That'll be something we're 510 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 2: going to have to track a lot coming to the draft. 511 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 4: We are and where are you kind of lean in 512 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 4: right now? 513 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 5: I mean, to me, it's I still think it's it's edge, 514 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 5: edge rusher, slash, maybe wide receiver, But I don't know 515 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 5: where are you at on it as far as where 516 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,439 Speaker 5: they would look to go at that at that spot, 517 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 5: I don't think it's going to be tackle now that 518 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 5: now that the Trent thing seems like it's going to be, 519 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 5: you know, coming to an end at some point soon, 520 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 5: although you never know. Maybe if Trent doesn't doesn't get 521 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 5: everything agreed to in the next three and a half weeks, 522 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 5: they look to put a little more pressure on them 523 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 5: by going that route, although I still think there are 524 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 5: too many other needs on this forty nine ers roster 525 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 5: to where they can mess around with a left tackle 526 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 5: that maybe or maybe not can play for them in 527 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 5: this upcoming season with a first round pick. To me, 528 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 5: you would have to use it more on that edge 529 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 5: rusher or on somebody that could be another wide receiver 530 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 5: to throw into the mix. 531 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 2: Edge was the instinct when you asked me the question. 532 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 2: But if there is an offensive lineman that they could 533 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 2: put in as a guard and maybe see if they 534 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 2: could plug and play right away, that would not be 535 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 2: something I would hate by any means, because you're gonna 536 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 2: need depth at that position no matter what. And they 537 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 2: did go and get some depth pieces like Vederian Lowe, 538 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 2: and they brought in Robert Jones, but they also said 539 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 2: that just because they brought in those pieces, there's still 540 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 2: a lot of competition and they do got to figure 541 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 2: out the starting left guard, whether that be Jones or 542 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 2: somebody else. So I'd probably lean edge at this very 543 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 2: I am going to be intrigued by offensive linemen and 544 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 2: if there are any that you could fall to twenty 545 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 2: seven and feel like you get pretty good value at 546 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 2: that pick. 547 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, it remains to be seen. 548 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 5: But and again you could make the case now with 549 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 5: Kirk and involved Anne Evans and you still have Pearsol 550 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,719 Speaker 5: that there's a little less pressure on having to go 551 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 5: look to add a wide receiver because it would basically 552 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 5: be somebody that would project to be, you know, your 553 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 5: number four wide receiver at this point. So I think 554 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 5: in some ways they're setting themselves up unless there's another 555 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 5: move to be made in terms of the wide receiver 556 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 5: room where somebody maybe that's here currently winds up finding 557 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 5: his way not on the team anymore. I think it 558 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 5: probably is leaning toward not necessarily being at least with 559 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 5: the first round pick one of the wide receivers. 560 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a Dieter's instinct. We had him on 561 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 2: Krug and I like, right when the Christian Kirk news 562 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 2: broke and he kind of wrote off a pick twenty 563 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 2: seven for a wide receiver as well. But well, hey, 564 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 2: things can always changed, right, Like, this was an instant reaction. 565 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 4: But I mean, if Peter said it, it's you know. 566 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 2: Hey, hey, we love we love Teeter. We'll wrap up 567 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 2: the show. Yeah, well we'll wrap up the show when 568 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 2: we come on back and I'll give the big reveal. 569 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 2: And Walter, look, if you order the stuff and stole 570 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 2: my credit card, you got one day to admit it. 571 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: Man. 572 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 2: If if you're not doing it by tomorrow, we're gonna 573 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 2: have some issues. It's Papa and Silver with JD on 574 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 2: the Sports Leader. 575 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: This is Papa and Silver on KNBR The Z Sports Leader. 576 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: Filling in for Greg Papa is John Dickinson on the 577 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: Sports Leader. 578 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 2: All right, final few minutes here on a Tuesday Giants 579 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,959 Speaker 2: padres a little bit later tonight, Logan Webb getting his 580 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 2: second start of the year and a good opportunity for 581 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 2: the Giants to get their second win if Web rebounds 582 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 2: from that opening night start last Wednesday. 583 00:26:58,600 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 3: JD. 584 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 2: As far as the lineup for the Giants goes, we 585 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 2: don't know what it is yet at this point, and 586 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 2: usually when we get a couple months into the season, 587 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 2: I'm not so worried about the everyday release of the 588 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 2: lineup and maybe who goes where. But because of Devers 589 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 2: and the hamstring situation, and because of how much Tony 590 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 2: Vitello has surprised us already, particularly with yesterday's lineup, I 591 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 2: am kind of curious. 592 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 3: To see what we do and if. 593 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 2: We get another situation such as a domis leading off 594 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 2: or something like that. 595 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 5: I think it is still new enough in the season 596 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 5: to where it is a thing, and you know, I'm 597 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 5: gonna surprise maybe some here whatever it winds up being, 598 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 5: when it comes out here within the next hour. I 599 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 5: right now I trust Tony Vitello like he was patient 600 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 5: from game one to Game two. He made some adjustments 601 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 5: from game two to Game three, did some other things 602 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 5: differently game three to Game four, Like, whatever it winds 603 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 5: up being. And it was certainly a surprise to see 604 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 5: a Domis leading off last night considering the way things 605 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 5: had gone in the game on Saturday against the Yankees 606 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 5: to close out that series. 607 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 4: So whatever it. 608 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 5: Winds up being at this point, i'm I'm, I'm pretty 609 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 5: open minded to it is the Giants still, even with 610 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 5: the win last night, looking for a breakout offensive performance 611 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 5: and looking for the guys at the top and in 612 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 5: the middle of the lineup to you know, pull their 613 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 5: weight a little bit. It was the guys at the 614 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 5: bottom of the order in Bader and Bailey and Casey 615 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 5: Schmidt who got the job done along with Jung Hu 616 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 5: Lee last night. 617 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 2: That's kind of the next step that we want to see, right, 618 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 2: we want to see your Adamises, your devers, your Chapman's. 619 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 3: Really carry the load down. 620 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 5: Logan Web and of course and Logan Web. You want 621 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 5: to see Logan Web pitch like an ace. I know 622 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 5: that's not lineup related, but that I think The number 623 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 5: one thing going into tonight's game in the in the 624 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 5: micro is you know, how does does logan web bounce back? 625 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 4: Does logan web bounce back? 626 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 5: And how does that look in another You know, this 627 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 5: is another one of those starts against a team that 628 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 5: I think projects to be better than you. I can 629 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 5: can you know, go out there and pitch like a freakin' ace. 630 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 2: And if you do that and then your team can 631 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 2: wrap it up and the bullpen can do its job 632 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 2: and close, well, you got yourself a series win already 633 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 2: at this point in the season. 634 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 3: All right, final minute or so, and it's. 635 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 2: The moment that Walter's been waiting for all day long. Again, 636 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 2: I'm sarting to let him off the hook. So I'll 637 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 2: ask you the multiple choice, because Walter knows the answer 638 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 2: to this mystery. Deliveries to my apartment continued into this morning. 639 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 2: What do you think my latest arrival was option A 640 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 2: six one piece swimsuits, one hot pink cast iron pan, 641 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 2: ten powder sunscreen brushes, or twenty four Plato easter eggs. 642 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 5: I'm gonna say, I was gonna vote you caught me earlier. 643 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 5: I was gonna say, is there an all of the 644 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 5: above answer? That was when I when I blanked Anya, 645 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 5: that was gonna be my answer, but I thought you 646 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 5: were talking a walt, so I didn't. 647 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 4: Jump in there. I'm gonna go with the swimsuits. 648 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 3: The answer is the swimsuits. Six of these? Whoa, what 649 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 3: are we doing? 650 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 2: Six of these? I like, get this big old package. 651 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 2: So I got a text that's like, hey, you got 652 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 2: another package. I was like, you gotta be kidding me. 653 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 2: I like haul this up the stairs and like texting 654 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 2: Walter in the morning. I just sent them a picture 655 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 2: in the mirror. Bro, this brand. 656 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 4: Does it fit you? 657 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 3: I haven't tried it on. 658 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 2: Actually I got six of them, all the same in 659 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 2: this brand curve, agile, or however you want to pronounce 660 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 2: it. It's like an Amazon brand. Like that's it, there's nothing, 661 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 2: It's just okay. So you know, now I've got the trifecta, 662 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 2: as everybody would have expected. One piece swimsuits from some 663 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 2: Amazon brand, Pampers baby wipes, and a chat gpt ai 664 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 2: voice recorder. Again, what was this person planning when they 665 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 2: got all of this? 666 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 3: This is just incredible stuff. Who's bad side did you 667 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 3: get on? Silver? 668 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 4: Well? 669 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 2: Part of me thinks this is hilarious, But then there 670 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 2: is that part of me that's like who has my 671 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 2: credit card? And anyone wondering the money also didn't add up, 672 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 2: like we're now past the budget of what I reported 673 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 2: as far as credit card fraud. So I got no 674 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 2: answers for you. But maybe by April Fools tomorrow something 675 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 2: comes around and maybe FP will help me solve this. 676 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 2: When he's filling in, I got no words, so Jad, 677 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 2: I'm glad that you at least make sense when we 678 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 2: can talk sports, because I'm gonna loss here. 679 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 3: And it's just completely throwing me for a loop. 680 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 2: So appreciate you, and we will do the show together 681 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 2: on Friday. 682 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 4: Thanks brother Dubzot. 683 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 5: The next two days why I'm not gonna be with 684 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 5: you out at Harmonic Brewing after the Warriors play the 685 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 5: Spurs and they play the Caves Wednesday and Thursday. 686 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 4: Then back with you on Friday. So looking forward to it, 687 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 4: my man. 688 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 2: Absolutely, big thank you to Walter, Thank you to Susan 689 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 2: Slusser and Marcus Thompson. Today and it is time for 690 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 2: dirty work, Copes, d Pop and Tim's Tuesday Takes and 691 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 2: Trivia will be coming your way Land and Rupe is 692 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 2: joining the show in about fifteen minutes, so I will GTFO. 693 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 2: You're listening to K and B R and KANBR FM, 694 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 2: San Francisco, The Sports Leader, a Cumulus Media station, as 695 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 2: Dirty Work starts right now.