Speaker 1: And we continue at one five in the afternoon on
Speaker 1: the John Phillips Show, mister Randy Wlggs in Culver City.
Speaker 2: Well, John, we have a new poll out in the
Speaker 2: governor's race. Now this is an internal Besserah pole, so
Speaker 2: take that for what it's worth. But this poll shows
Speaker 2: that Javier Bacheriea is tied for first place with Steve
Speaker 2: Hilton at nineteen percent, followed by Bianco and Styre tied
Speaker 2: at fourteen percent, Porter at eight may And at seven,
Speaker 2: Viragos at two, and Tony Thurmond at one percent.
Speaker 3: Scrub it. What do you know?
Speaker 2: A Bserah pole shows Besara doing well. Now here's the
Speaker 2: thing that's funny. They also, again, take this poll for
Speaker 2: what it's worth, they looked at favorability ratings among all
Speaker 2: the other candidates, and John, can you guess which candidate
Speaker 2: among all of them has the highest unfavorable rating? Now,
Speaker 2: this is Democrat and Republican.
Speaker 1: Now, in a deep blue state like California, in theory,
Speaker 1: it should be both Republicans. However, because Katie Porter slammed
Speaker 1: dunked a plate full of mashed potatoes on Dad's head
Speaker 1: and Tom Steyer is in our face every time the
Speaker 1: game goes to a commercial, my guest would be those
Speaker 1: two are at the top.
Speaker 3: Of the list Winter Winter Chicken Dinner.
Speaker 2: Katie Porter has the highest unfavorable rating, followed closely by
Speaker 2: Tom Steyer, and then a few below that is Chad Bianco.
Speaker 2: But yes, the top two vote getters when it comes
Speaker 2: to people that they don't like is Katie Porter and
Speaker 2: Tom Steyer.
Speaker 4: I'm pulling in to the bakery.
Speaker 1: Now, did they pull likely California voters or did they
Speaker 1: pull former Katie Porter students. Eight hundred two two two
Speaker 1: five two two two is a telephone number one eight
Speaker 1: hundred two two two five two two two. It is
Speaker 1: our pleasure to welcome our next guest to the program.
Speaker 1: He is a Republican candidate for governor, former host on
Speaker 1: the Fox News Channel. You can follow him on exit
Speaker 1: Steve Hilton X. Steve Hilton, welcome.
Speaker 5: Well, it's great to be with you, John, especially now
Speaker 5: you clearly have your finger on the pulse. You accurately
Speaker 5: predicted the two most unpopular in the state Porter and Steyer.
Speaker 5: Who would have guessed. It's amazing, isn't it. He spent
Speaker 5: one hundred and forty million dollars in order to be
Speaker 5: the most unpopular catt at It's incredible.
Speaker 1: There is a thing as oversaturation where you can't do
Speaker 1: it too much. And I think Meg Whitman did that
Speaker 1: back when she ran for governor. I think Alchecki did
Speaker 1: that when he ran for governor. I think Rick Russo
Speaker 1: did that when he ran for mayor. And I think
Speaker 1: that Tom Steyer is repeating that this cycle.
Speaker 5: Do you think that he'll get the message and stop
Speaker 5: or he's got nothing else. It's interesting, isn't it, because
Speaker 5: he's not quite there yet. You know, in some of
Speaker 5: the polls he's in the top two, and others he's not.
Speaker 5: This falling back now back area surging as they say,
Speaker 5: I don't know what do you do if you're Tom's
Speaker 5: stye I mean, look, my view has always been I
Speaker 5: don't care who the Democrats sent to run against me.
Speaker 5: We're sick of them. They've completely failed. We got the
Speaker 5: highest cost of living in the country, all the other
Speaker 5: issues we know about, and the time for change argument,
Speaker 5: even the time for balance argument, is just going to
Speaker 5: be incredibly strong whoever they send.
Speaker 1: So Randy and I were in the audience last night
Speaker 1: in Claremont at Pomona College for the debate, and a
Speaker 1: couple of things popped into our heads after watching the debate,
Speaker 1: and I'm curious to see what you think about them.
Speaker 1: First and foremost, it was shocking. It was shocking to
Speaker 1: both of us for the first time seeing Tom Dyer
Speaker 1: in person, how old he looked, and how sickly he looked.
Speaker 1: He looked like someone who just escaped from the old
Speaker 1: folks home. Especially we're in a suit in those sneakers.
Speaker 1: I was kind of surprised because in his ads they
Speaker 1: portray him as this guy who swearing right and left.
Speaker 3: He's this ass kicker.
Speaker 1: He's going to go to Washington, DC and tell Donald
Speaker 1: Trump what for, and he's going to bring socialized medicine
Speaker 1: to California, something that Gavin Newsom couldn't do. He's going
Speaker 1: to give the teachers union everything they want. And then
Speaker 1: you see him in person, and the framing of him
Speaker 1: as a candidate that the ad makers portrayed and the
Speaker 1: person who walked onto that stage in the same room
Speaker 1: as us, it was like night and day, like two
Speaker 1: different people.
Speaker 5: Yeah, to me, I totally agree. That was exactly my
Speaker 5: first resht. I mean I've seen him up close. I
Speaker 5: guess I'm not as surprised now because I've seen him
Speaker 5: quite a few times. Because apart from these TV debates,
Speaker 5: we do a number of these forums that don't get
Speaker 5: anything like the attention that they're mostly not televised, And
Speaker 5: I remember thinking exactly the same, He's like some grumpy
Speaker 5: old man. You mean, John, You don't think that the
Speaker 5: sneakers make him look like a cool kid with the
Speaker 5: kind of hip vibe he's going for. He just looks ridiculous.
Speaker 5: I agree with you.
Speaker 1: The other thing that kind of surprised me was how
Speaker 1: unimpressive Javier Besserra was for a guy who is surging
Speaker 1: in the polls, for a guy who I think the
Speaker 1: Democratic establishment is kicking tires on getting behind. Last night,
Speaker 1: he seemed unsure of himself. He said things that were
Speaker 1: not only fact checked by the other candidates, but by
Speaker 1: the moderators of the debate. He wanted to do things
Speaker 1: that were patently illegal. As someone who is the attorney
Speaker 1: general of the state of California, you'd think he would
Speaker 1: be aware of that.
Speaker 3: He seemed not to be aware of it.
Speaker 1: This is in line with how he performed in the
Speaker 1: last debate where he kept confusing I ran for Iraq
Speaker 1: and a whole bunch of other things. He seems like
Speaker 1: that Joe Biden in the race.
Speaker 5: To me, it's so funny you should say that. I
Speaker 5: was just thinking about that last night and thinking, that's
Speaker 5: who does this guy really, what does he really represent?
Speaker 5: What's he all about? And that's exactly what he's literally
Speaker 5: the Biden of this race. That's exactly what I thought
Speaker 5: last night, just total career politician, doesn't believe in anything,
Speaker 5: does what he's told by the unions, by the activist,
Speaker 5: by the machine. In that sense, he's the perfect candidate
Speaker 5: for them because he's exactly the puppet that they've been
Speaker 5: looking for that they just put him in there and
Speaker 5: he'll deliver whatever they want.
Speaker 1: He's running to be the figurehead of the coalition in
Speaker 1: the same lane that Kamala Harris ran in, that Joe
Speaker 1: Biden ran in, that Karen bass in Los Angeles ran in.
Speaker 1: And I just can't imagine, given how awful her numbers
Speaker 1: are and how badly Kamala Harris lost, and how Joe
Speaker 1: Biden was pushed out of the election, that there's any
Speaker 1: appetite at all for that.
Speaker 5: I agree with that. I mean, if the basic argument
Speaker 5: in this election is going to come down to, are
Speaker 5: you happy with the way things are going in California?
Speaker 5: Do you want another four years of one party rule
Speaker 5: or do you think it's time for change. There's no
Speaker 5: one that represents more of the same more than him.
Speaker 5: I mean, he's just absolutely the Democrat machine turned into
Speaker 5: human form, just like Biden was, just like all those
Speaker 5: people you mentioned. That's exactly right. Machine politicians will just
Speaker 5: do whatever the especially in California. Of course, the Unions won,
Speaker 5: and so I don't know. I mean everyone always asks
Speaker 5: me who would you rather face? There used to be
Speaker 5: Stire or Porter, and before Swolwell dropped out, and now
Speaker 5: of course Bessa is in the mix. I really can't decide, because,
Speaker 5: in their different ways, each of them is so deeply flawed.
Speaker 1: I thought Matt Mahan, the mayor of San Jose, had
Speaker 1: a good night last night, and I thought he had
Speaker 1: a good night in the first two. The problem I
Speaker 1: see with him is that he's put his poll in
Speaker 1: a pond with no.
Speaker 3: Fish in it.
Speaker 1: He is appealing to people who hate Donald Trump, but
Speaker 1: who believe that the state of California does an awful
Speaker 1: job delivering services. And I just don't think there are
Speaker 1: any Democrats out There are many Democrats out there who
Speaker 1: feel that way. He's selling peanut butter without jelly, and
Speaker 1: I just see them buying into the whole thing or
Speaker 1: not buying into it at all. Because the Democrats I
Speaker 1: know who are fed up with how the state of
Speaker 1: California has been run, They're not happy with Pelosi, They're
Speaker 1: not happy with Hakim Jeffries. They weren't happy with Joe
Speaker 1: Biden either, And it seems like he's trying to thread
Speaker 1: the needle in this way that's too cool for school,
Speaker 1: and I just don't see any appetite at all in
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party for the product that he's trying to sell.
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, And I said that right from the beginning.
Speaker 5: By the way, I felt the same way about Rick Caruso,
Speaker 5: who's obviously backing Mayhan. And really the only the only
Speaker 5: reason Mayhan is in the race is because Caruso decided
Speaker 5: not to run, and then almost overnight, all of the
Speaker 5: money that was lined up to support Rick Caruso in
Speaker 5: the belief that what this state needs is a moderate Democrat,
Speaker 5: as they describe it, and it all switched to mayhan
Speaker 5: and he's had a huge amount of money. I mean
Speaker 5: he's spending not not quite stire money, but you know,
Speaker 5: a lot. And he's still on single digits. Four, five, six, seven.
Speaker 5: I think seven is high for him. And he's not
Speaker 5: going anywhere because remember it's a Democrat, it's a primary election.
Speaker 5: The people who tend to vote in a primary are
Speaker 5: the most you know, the party loyalists. They don't want
Speaker 5: what mayhansney. You're completely right. I always thought there was
Speaker 5: no lane for him in the top two system, and
Speaker 5: just as there wasn't for Rick Caruso, which is I
Speaker 5: guess why Rick Caruso didn't run, amongst other reasons. But
Speaker 5: I think what Mayhanon's done, it's going to be for
Speaker 5: Sarah Stile. Maybe still. Katie Porter, I thought she did
Speaker 5: all right last night.
Speaker 1: Honestly, well, during some of the commercial breaks she walked
Speaker 1: up to you and I believe Matt Mahan as well,
Speaker 1: and she was talking to you during the commercial break.
Speaker 3: What was it that she had to say?
Speaker 5: Well, she was complaining a lot about the format. So
Speaker 5: the thing about her was that she basically she was
Speaker 5: not going to be in last night's debate until the
Speaker 5: very last minute. She waited for Ages to confirm, and
Speaker 5: then she said she wasn't coming, and then she changed
Speaker 5: her mind. As she was saying, she was complaining about
Speaker 5: the format and the way they structured it. So we
Speaker 5: were chatting about that. Look, the truth is that we
Speaker 5: you know, we've seen each other a lot on these
Speaker 5: on these occasions, and on a personal level, actually get
Speaker 5: on pretty well. Obviously totally disagree on policy and politics.
Speaker 5: But I think that it's interesting. I just look at
Speaker 5: these three that are in the top tier for the Democrats,
Speaker 5: and I really could see any of them making it.
Speaker 5: And I don't know, we've got to. I mean, the
Speaker 5: ballots go out next week. I mean, the election is
Speaker 5: basically here. One other thing that's very important to bear
Speaker 5: in mind, and this poll from the Bessarah's team, you know,
Speaker 5: illustrates that today is that we can't take for granted
Speaker 5: that as a fact that I'll be in the top two.
Speaker 5: Obviously I'm leading in all of the polls, and my
Speaker 5: lead is growing, but you know, you could even see
Speaker 5: the way that that because you've still got Chad in
Speaker 5: the race, you know, polling lower, but taking you know,
Speaker 5: a big chunk of Republican votes, you could end up
Speaker 5: with two Democrats if we're not careful. So I do
Speaker 5: think we need to face up to that on the
Speaker 5: Republican side and really make a clear decision that we've
Speaker 5: got to have a Republican in the top two. If
Speaker 5: we don't, it's a disaster for California. There'll be no
Speaker 5: chance of change. It's a disaster for all the down
Speaker 5: ballot races, even for voter ID And so we've got
Speaker 5: to wake up and get serious. And so I'm very
Speaker 5: strongly saying to everyone, Look, it's pretty clear now who's
Speaker 5: the leading Republican, leading in the polls, leading on fundraising,
Speaker 5: endorsed by President Trump. Let's get together as a party
Speaker 5: and make this happen.
Speaker 1: I disagree because when you look at the poll particularly
Speaker 1: put out by the California Democratic Party, they still have
Speaker 1: a Democrat lockout on the November ballot as a distinct possibility.
Speaker 1: They wouldn't be putting that poll out if they didn't
Speaker 1: have their hair on fire worried about a Democratic lockout, because,
Speaker 1: let's face it, if it's you and Chad Bianco on
Speaker 1: the November ballot, not only does that mean that there
Speaker 1: will be a Republican governor. It means good luck getting
Speaker 1: any Democratic voters to turn out or to get ginned
Speaker 1: up about the election, which means the Republicans have a
Speaker 1: much better shot hanging onto that isis seat in San
Speaker 1: Diego and Riverside County, that seat that's being contested by
Speaker 1: both parties in the Central Valley, the Valadeo seat, and
Speaker 1: certainly the Kevin Kyley seat in Northern California. I mean,
Speaker 1: if that were to happen, that could determine not only
Speaker 1: who is in the next governor of California, but who's
Speaker 1: in charge of the Congress in Washington, d C.
Speaker 3: Too.
Speaker 1: And I think that they see that as being the
Speaker 1: worst case scenario for the California Democratic Party, as they should,
Speaker 1: but they certainly still see that as a distinct possibility.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Look, of course that would be an incredible outcome, But
Speaker 5: for all the reasons you give, couldn't agree more. It's
Speaker 5: just very difficult to see how we engineer that, especially
Speaker 5: considering how much money they've got on their side to
Speaker 5: muck about with the with the system to meet their goals.
Speaker 5: I mean, look what, that's why Katie Porters so angry
Speaker 5: with them all, because they really took her out in
Speaker 5: order for Adam Schiff in the Senate race to make
Speaker 5: sure that he faced Steve Garvey. And so my view
Speaker 5: has always been that if there's any real possibility of
Speaker 5: the two Republicans being in the top two, they would
Speaker 5: spend a ton of money to stop that from happening.
Speaker 5: The machine, you know, the Union money and so on,
Speaker 5: and so I don't know. I just think that trying
Speaker 5: to get to that outcome might actually mean that we
Speaker 5: end up with no Republican. But in the end, it's
Speaker 5: very difficult for us to affect this other than for
Speaker 5: both me and Chad to do what we're doing, which
Speaker 5: is to campaign hard and get our message out. Then
Speaker 5: that's what I'm doing, and I guess that's what he's doing,
Speaker 5: and we'll see how it goes. But I do worry
Speaker 5: that we might end up with two Democrats if we're
Speaker 5: not careful.
Speaker 1: Last night's debate was different from the first debate and
Speaker 1: other forums that you have participated in with Chad Bianco
Speaker 1: in the sense that you two really didn't mix it
Speaker 1: up together. He got into it with Tony Thurman, the
Speaker 1: state Superintendent of Public Instruction. Those two mixed it up
Speaker 1: a few different times. He certainly went at it with
Speaker 1: the moderators, went at it with Katie Order at various
Speaker 1: points in time, but you and him certainly never were.
Speaker 3: At each other's throats.
Speaker 1: The callers, we had callers call in the first hour
Speaker 1: react to the debate last night, and it's quite interesting
Speaker 1: to me because typically when you have a contested primary,
Speaker 1: people who support one candidate hate the other. If you
Speaker 1: support candidate B, you hate candidate A. And it seems
Speaker 1: like the people who say they're going to vote for
Speaker 1: Bianco still have a really good impression of you. The
Speaker 1: people who are voting for you still have a pretty
Speaker 1: good impression of Bianco. Was the decision to not go
Speaker 1: at it with each other last night something that you
Speaker 1: walked into that building knowing would happen, or did it
Speaker 1: just happen that way organically?
Speaker 5: A bit of both, honestly, John, I mean, I feel
Speaker 5: like we've got to in a forum like that and
Speaker 5: or an event like that where it's a statewide TV audience.
Speaker 5: It's not just Republicans, it's not just Democrats. It's really
Speaker 5: important that we just make who's responsible for this mess.
Speaker 5: It's not the Republican has nothing to do with Republicans.
Speaker 5: It's the Democrats and both of us in different ways.
Speaker 5: And you know, you don't get unlimited time. You have
Speaker 5: a certain amount of time, and so you've got to
Speaker 5: use it to make the points that are most important.
Speaker 5: And the most important point is that we're desperate for
Speaker 5: change in California. You've got to hold the Democrats accountable,
Speaker 5: and we need a new direction. And the fact is
Speaker 5: that Chad and I do agree on the direction for sure.
Speaker 5: On most policy areas, we're completely in agreement. There's a
Speaker 5: couple of exceptions. We've talked about that before, and immigration
Speaker 5: is probably really the only significant issue where we don't
Speaker 5: actually agree, and our disagreement is really on you know,
Speaker 5: who's best able to deliver that and so on, and
Speaker 5: we don't need to get into that now. But in
Speaker 5: terms of the argument, the argument is you cannot have
Speaker 5: another four years of Democrat one party rule. And I
Speaker 5: think that both of us, you know, we didn't we
Speaker 5: certainly didn't discuss it or in any way talk about
Speaker 5: our respective strategies, but I think we both understand that
Speaker 5: it's our responsibility as leaders for the Republican Party in
Speaker 5: this situation to pin the blame where it lies, which
Speaker 5: is with Democrats.
Speaker 1: What did you make of the format last night and
Speaker 1: the moderators?
Speaker 5: Ah, I mean it was way too over engineered. I look,
Speaker 5: I liked this debate more than the last one. I
Speaker 5: thought the last one was very bloodless and two micromanaged
Speaker 5: and everyone just delivering their lines. And in fact, the
Speaker 5: last one it was, you know, we're all in a
Speaker 5: tiny little studio right next to each other. It just
Speaker 5: felt very restricted in every way. This one was much looser.
Speaker 5: I think there was more energy to it, and I
Speaker 5: liked that. But I thought the structure, with all these
Speaker 5: different sections and the fact that you know, you're not
Speaker 5: everyone to answer the same question, it meant just weird.
Speaker 5: And I think that there was way too much. You know,
Speaker 5: I'm made too much speaking by the motivators.
Speaker 1: Frankly Steve Hilton, Republican candidate for governor here in the
Speaker 1: state of California, the man who was pulling first and
Speaker 1: just about every recent poll. You can follow him on
Speaker 1: x at Steve Hilton X. Steve, thanks so much for
Speaker 1: stopping by. Well chat again real soon.
Speaker 5: Thank you, Joe. Great to be with you.
Speaker 3: Let's go to Charlotte and Woodland Hills. Charlotte. Hello, Hi,
Speaker 3: how are you good?
Speaker 7: Yeah? So I'm just my comments about the debate last night.
Speaker 7: I definitely thought Hilton was the best. I thought that
Speaker 7: Matt Mahon was the second best. I thought he was
Speaker 7: actually pretty good looking from the TV. I know you
Speaker 7: said he looks better in person. I think he's too skinny.
Speaker 7: But I thought he was pretty good looking, which surprised
Speaker 7: me because I didn't notice that before. I thought, but
Speaker 7: Sarah was mean spirited, which I was surprised because I
Speaker 7: never thought that until last night. He made some comment.
Speaker 7: He made a couple of snide remarks, and I think
Speaker 7: one of them was to Helton about his dad, but
Speaker 7: he was really talking about Trump apparently, So I wasn't
Speaker 7: impressed with that. I thought, I think stier, he just
Speaker 7: tries too hard, he jumps around, he's not likable, he
Speaker 7: talks too much, and Katie Porter is just not likable.
Speaker 7: And Bianco came off was angry and mean, you know.
Speaker 7: So that was kind of my take on it.
Speaker 3: All right, thank you for the call.
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Speaker 3: John. Hello, Hi, Hi John.
Speaker 8: I want to thank you for your analysis of the
Speaker 8: governor's race. I agree with your strategym for Sheriff Biankell
Speaker 8: and mister Hilton winning the top two primary. I'm a
Speaker 8: little bit more than a little worried that they are
Speaker 8: mad candidacy. We'll get a lot of independent voters that
Speaker 8: might have gone to our candidates and will reduce all
Speaker 8: percentage of the vote overall, so it won't be an
Speaker 8: impressive going into the fall.
Speaker 1: I think that you're right to be worried about that. However,
Speaker 1: I assume that in primaries, more than anything, what you're
Speaker 1: going to have is you're going to have Republican voters
Speaker 1: voting for Republican candidates, Democratic voters voting for Democratic candidates.
Speaker 1: They're really and I know people will disagree with this,
Speaker 1: but just trust me on this.
Speaker 3: I'm right.
Speaker 1: There are very few truly independent people out there. There
Speaker 1: are very few people out there with no ideology or
Speaker 1: no personal politics, and they vote based on who's the
Speaker 1: most down the middle or whatever what you have declined
Speaker 1: the state voters or no party preference voters, or you
Speaker 1: have people who are usually relying, liable Republican voters or
Speaker 1: reliable Democrat voters, but they can't self identify with the
Speaker 1: party for one reason or another. You could have someone
Speaker 1: who thinks the Democratic Party is not far left enough,
Speaker 1: for example. Or you may have someone who is a
Speaker 1: Republican but doesn't believe in the Republican position on abortion,
Speaker 1: and so they don't register as a Republican, but they
Speaker 1: vote that way and that's their own little personal protest.
Speaker 1: You have a lot of that going on, but these
Speaker 1: people typically vote in very predictable ways. There are independents
Speaker 1: who vote Republican almost every time they cast a ballot,
Speaker 1: Democrat independent voters who vote Democrat almost every time they
Speaker 1: cast a ballot. That's very common in politics. I would
Speaker 1: imagine that Mayhan being on the ballot, all things being equal,
Speaker 1: hurts the Democrats more than he hurts the Republicans, because
Speaker 1: the primary population of people that he's going to draw
Speaker 1: from are Democrats who would vote for a Democrat for
Speaker 1: governor or independents who would vote for a Democrat for governor,
Speaker 1: and all of those people voting for him hurts the
Speaker 1: California Democratic Party at this point.
Speaker 8: Another thing John is he keeps on dragging that he
Speaker 8: himself built thousands of houses in the last year or
Speaker 8: two that he's been mayor. But that's pure boloney. It's
Speaker 8: the free enterprise system that builds these houses, not the politicos. Plus,
Speaker 8: Santase is not really a big city city. It's really
Speaker 8: a collection of suburbs. So you know, the idea about
Speaker 8: the crime rate. We're a unique city, and then we
Speaker 8: have a small downtown in about five parts that could
Speaker 8: really be separate suburb cities, you know. So I just
Speaker 8: wanted to get that in on or too, that he's
Speaker 8: a lot of hot air and I'm just worried about
Speaker 8: the margin of the vote.
Speaker 1: Well, who knows, maybe he did build homes. He could
Speaker 1: have played monopoly with his family the last time it reigned.
Speaker 5: Oh no money.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, thanks for the call, Sarah, we appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Let's go to John and Hollis here. John, Hello, Yes, hi.
Speaker 6: Hi there, I was calling.
Speaker 3: Hey.
Speaker 6: I actually had two things I wanted to give you,
Speaker 6: and one is my personal opinion of the debate last night.
Speaker 6: It was it was a dumpster fire. There was because
Speaker 6: there was so many people on stage, they attempted to
Speaker 6: cover too many subjects, and none of the candidates got
Speaker 6: really a good chance to respond to anything. And you
Speaker 6: also had a situation where even Chad Bianco made a
Speaker 6: point of it when he said I thought I was
Speaker 6: invisible up here or something like that. But you didn't
Speaker 6: hear from Steve Hilton or Bianco very much at all.
Speaker 6: And the other thing I wanted to say was I
Speaker 6: kind of agree with Steve Hilton. I don't think there
Speaker 6: is enough Republicans in California that if you try and
Speaker 6: split the vote, you're going to end up with them
Speaker 6: going below somebody like Steve Hilton, and then you're going
Speaker 6: to you're gonna definitely end up with a Democrat lockout.
Speaker 6: I just think we ought to get behind one pit
Speaker 6: one candidate, in my opinion, that Steve Hilton, and then
Speaker 6: hope for the best.
Speaker 3: Well here's the way I see it.
Speaker 1: If you are looking at the ballot as a Republican
Speaker 1: and the goal is to get a Republican governor, and
Speaker 1: you really don't have much of a preference, or it
Speaker 1: doesn't bother you either way, if it's Hilton or Bianco.
Speaker 1: To my eye, the play is still to go for
Speaker 1: a Democrat lockout in November, because if you get a
Speaker 1: Republican versus Democrat matchup in November, you have about less
Speaker 1: than one percent chance of winning. There are things that
Speaker 1: can happen where the Republican candidate can win. The Democrat
Speaker 1: could get caught up in a scandal. I mean, imagine
Speaker 1: if Eric Swalwell was the Democratic nominee and the stories
Speaker 1: of alleged rape didn't come out until after the primary
Speaker 1: was over. Well, the Democrats would be in a heap
Speaker 1: of trouble that certainly would put them in a bind
Speaker 1: and in a position where Republican could win the race.
Speaker 1: But a Republican candidate would need that sort of an
Speaker 1: event to happen to have a realistic shot of winning.
Speaker 1: The last time a Republican came close to winning was
Speaker 1: Lonnie Chen when he ran for controller some years ago,
Speaker 1: and he got within I think single digits. But that
Speaker 1: was him doing exceptionally well, getting all the newspaper endorsements,
Speaker 1: having the win. That is back and he's still lost
Speaker 1: by I think I don't know, seven or eight points.
Speaker 1: If you're the Republican party and you have a let's
Speaker 1: say one in five chance of winning, if you go
Speaker 1: for two Republicans, well that twenty percent chance of winning
Speaker 1: is much better than the one percent chance you would
Speaker 1: have if it's a Republican versus a Democrat. And I
Speaker 1: like to play cards. I like to play poker, I
Speaker 1: like to play video poker. I like to play blackjack.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you make moves that you would otherwise not want
Speaker 1: to make, that you do because at least you could
Speaker 1: win something. You may have two to a royal flush
Speaker 1: or three to a royal flush, but you have money
Speaker 1: in the bank with you know, a pair or three
Speaker 1: of a kind or whatever.
Speaker 3: You go with the sure thing.
Speaker 1: You go with the hand that is most likely to
Speaker 1: produce a win, because if you go for the once
Speaker 1: in a lifetime one percent chance less than one percent chance,
Speaker 1: the odds are you're going to end up with nothing.
Speaker 1: And if Republicans end up with nothing this time around,
Speaker 1: and we have four more years of some disastrous democratic
Speaker 1: leaders one party rule in this state, the state is
Speaker 1: going to go down the tubes even further. I mean
Speaker 1: there are a lot of people out there who think
Speaker 1: that we've already hit rock bottom. I don't think we've
Speaker 1: come close to hitting rock bottom. I think it can
Speaker 1: get much much worse. And if you put Katie Porter
Speaker 1: in charge, or Tom Steyer in charge, or Javier Bisra
Speaker 1: in charge, it is going to get worse because all
Speaker 1: of them are destructive people, and some of them aren't
Speaker 1: even really that bright. Basarah, I'm looking at you, and
Speaker 1: so for my vote, I'm going to try to go
Speaker 1: for the strategic play, which is to give the Republicans
Speaker 1: the best shot, the greatest chances of winning the governorship.
Speaker 1: All things being equal, it's unlikely to occur. I think
Speaker 1: the odds are definitely against us. But whatever the percentages are,
Speaker 1: it's better than one percent. And that's why I'm going
Speaker 1: to do it that way.
Speaker 6: Well, okay, then I just thought i'd two.
Speaker 3: Then all right, thank you for the golfer. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Let's go to Vivian in Berkeley. Vivian, Hello, Hi.
Speaker 9: My choice is the Uncle because I feel that he's
Speaker 9: the most honest and we have absolutely need change. And
Speaker 9: I live in Berkeley, and I have firsthand knowledge of
Speaker 9: just insanity, and I used to be I can't believe it.
Speaker 9: I used to My favorite station was KPFA, and I
Speaker 9: sponsored them even and throughout the years it was I
Speaker 9: think it's it's the climate change agenda that got me,
Speaker 9: because I really believe that climate change is all these
Speaker 9: crazy things they want to do in order to control us,
Speaker 9: and all of a sudden, we don't really care about pollution.
Speaker 9: All we care about is carbon, which is not a
Speaker 9: pollutant anyway. That be that as it may. But that
Speaker 9: was my first thing, and I've been gradually going more
Speaker 9: towards just mainly just like you could say I have
Speaker 9: Democrat derangement syndrome because I've had this such an experience
Speaker 9: with this. But anyway, the reason I agree with you
Speaker 9: that it's best to get two Republicans in there, and
Speaker 9: my preferences for Bianco, but I really do like him.
Speaker 9: You know, people say, oh, he comes off angry. Well,
Speaker 9: you know, like they used to say, bar Belize Bird
Speaker 9: speaks for me. Well, Bianco speaks for me because I
Speaker 9: am really angry and I want to stop to the nonsense.
Speaker 9: And he's the one that really I feel I could
Speaker 9: do it, but I kind of agree that he might
Speaker 9: not make it. But the worst is stire. If we
Speaker 9: get Styre in there, we're going to be going full
Speaker 9: bore into the climate change agenda, which is very destructive.
Speaker 1: Are you there, I'm here. Thank you for the call.
Speaker 1: I appreciate your comments, and thanks for listening. All right, Randy,
Speaker 1: let's dip into some sound from last night's big gubernatorial debate.
Speaker 2: And the first moment where things started to get out
Speaker 2: of control was when the question was about cuts to
Speaker 2: healthcare in California.
Speaker 4: Now to another issue important to Californian's and mister Mayhan,
Speaker 4: you brought this up. We're talking about gas prices. They're
Speaker 4: the highest in the name.
Speaker 2: Oh maybe this was gas prices first, you know, you
Speaker 2: know what it was, gas prices. Then we get into healthcare.
Speaker 2: Let's start with gat Now I'm moving on, where's the
Speaker 2: healthcare one?
Speaker 4: California more affordable Again, as far as healthcare.
Speaker 10: Is concerned, healthcare is a right for every Californian and
Speaker 10: long term, the only way we can afford that is
Speaker 10: a single payer healthcare system.
Speaker 3: How are you going to pay for that?
Speaker 1: That would bankrupt the state in ways that it's that
Speaker 1: bankrupting us by a little bit, it's bankrupting us by
Speaker 1: a lot, and his plan to get us there is
Speaker 1: to hire smart people to figure it out. Well, Gavin
Speaker 1: newsom ran on socialized medicine too, and then they showed
Speaker 1: him the books and he goes, oh, I really can't
Speaker 1: do that, can't I a lot? And now Tom Steyer
Speaker 1: thinks he's going to step in and figure out how
Speaker 1: to put the Rubik's cube together with the pot of
Speaker 1: the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow
Speaker 1: being Canadian style healthcare, a lot.
Speaker 10: That will take at least three years to get if
Speaker 10: we start on day one, and in the interim, we're
Speaker 10: going to have a shih the way.
Speaker 2: I've heard him give the same answer in interviews, he
Speaker 2: sounded so tired last night.
Speaker 1: He sounded tired, and it sounds like he doesn't even
Speaker 1: have a basic understanding as to how any of this
Speaker 1: actually works.
Speaker 2: I don't think he needs to. I think he's a billionaire,
Speaker 2: and I think he has consultants telling him how great
Speaker 2: he is, and he's buying into their bs.
Speaker 10: A lot that will take at least three years to
Speaker 10: get if we start on day one, and in the interim,
Speaker 10: we're going to have a structural shortfall because of the
Speaker 10: fact that Donald Trump has kicked three million people off
Speaker 10: medical On day one, I will call a special election
Speaker 10: to close a corporate real estate tax loophole worth twenty
Speaker 10: two billion dollars to the state of California every year.
Speaker 2: That's the thing he wants to do at Prop thirteen,
Speaker 2: the split Role, which by the way, the voters had
Speaker 2: an opportunity to vote on that back in twenty twenty
Speaker 2: and they rejected it.
Speaker 1: And keep in mind, look at the framing here. Most
Speaker 1: California voters love Prop thirteen, even many Democrats, because in
Speaker 1: a state that's so expended to live in, it allows
Speaker 1: us to stay here. Because you look at property taxes
Speaker 1: in other states. Look at Texas, look at New York.
Speaker 1: Property taxes are through the roof. If you eliminate Prop thirteen,
Speaker 1: property taxes in California will look very similar to Texas
Speaker 1: and New York, which would make the state totally unaffordable
Speaker 1: for a lot of people. But instead of saying I'm
Speaker 1: going to attack Prop thirteen head on, how does he
Speaker 1: frame it.
Speaker 3: I'm going after a loophole.
Speaker 10: So that we can close that budget shortfall. The truth is,
Speaker 10: no one else on this.
Speaker 2: Stage you could close the state's budget shortfall with just
Speaker 2: the money that you were spending on this campaign.
Speaker 1: And by the way, if he actually goes through with
Speaker 1: socialized medicine, whatever he says, it's going to cost you
Speaker 1: better double that because he believes in open borders, and
Speaker 1: he believes in healthcare for illegal aliens, which means half
Speaker 1: of Guatemala is going to get the same healthcare as
Speaker 1: you because he's going to kick you off your ppo
Speaker 1: to pay for it.
Speaker 10: The truth is, no one else on this stage wants
Speaker 10: to talk about revenue because we're short of revenue as
Speaker 10: a result of that bill in the Congress last year.
Speaker 2: California's budget is bigger than it ever has been before
Speaker 2: this year. It's at three hundred and fifty billion dollars
Speaker 2: a year. And you're going to tell me it's a
Speaker 2: revenue problem. We actually brought in so much money last
Speaker 2: year that Prop ninety eight kicked in and we to
Speaker 2: send even more money to the no good schools.
Speaker 3: With declining enrollment.
Speaker 2: And I think we got to get rid of Prop
Speaker 2: ninety eight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no kidding.
Speaker 10: And it's absolutely difficult if we believe that healthcare is
Speaker 10: a right, did in fact we have the revenue.
Speaker 3: There's that bell nobody was paying attention to the bell.
Speaker 1: No, no one cared about the easy bake oven.
Speaker 10: Did in fact, we have the revenue. Is single payer?
Speaker 3: Is this only way we saw?
Speaker 4: I'm going to go to miss supporter because you also
Speaker 4: believe in single payer?
Speaker 3: Yes? Correct?
Speaker 11: I mean, look, single payer delivers the most healthcare at
Speaker 11: the lowest administrative costs. I was a champion for single
Speaker 11: payer at the federal level because Medicare spends about two
Speaker 11: percent of everything that we put into it on administrative
Speaker 11: Here's a.
Speaker 1: Question that I have for her, and I have the
Speaker 1: same question for Tom Steyer. Is socialized medicine is the
Speaker 1: bee's knees? Why is it that all of the people
Speaker 1: means in England or Canada, when something really bad happens
Speaker 1: to them, they fly to the Mayo Clinic to get
Speaker 1: treated there. Why is it that that happens? If socialized
Speaker 1: medicine is so great, why is it that they come
Speaker 1: here for treatment when it hits the fan? And the
Speaker 1: answer is healthcare is a commodity where there's not an
Speaker 1: infinite supply and you have to ration it based on
Speaker 1: one of two things. You can ration it based on cost,
Speaker 1: where people who can afford it get quicker, better treatment,
Speaker 1: or you can ration it based on lines where everyone
Speaker 1: has to wait in a line, like it's Space Mountain
Speaker 1: at Disneyland in the middle of July. And when you
Speaker 1: ration it based on lines, and you really need a
Speaker 1: procedure done otherwise something really bad is going to happen
Speaker 1: to you. So sorry. This is socialized medicine. This is
Speaker 1: the way it works. You better cross your fingers and
Speaker 1: help you don't die of cost.
Speaker 11: And private health insurance spends seventeen or eighteen percent on
Speaker 11: pushing paper into nine claims and telling you no and
Speaker 11: who you can and can't go see as a doctor.
Speaker 11: So that's the change we have to get. We have
Speaker 11: to get much more administratively efficient with our healthcare. With
Speaker 11: regard to Donald Trump's cuts, we have to make sure
Speaker 11: we're protecting our hospitals.
Speaker 2: Try not even listening to pat Are you no, she
Speaker 2: just ran or right?
Speaker 11: We have to make sure we're protecting our hospitals. Twenty
Speaker 11: five percent of our hospitals in California are projected to
Speaker 11: close because of those cuts, and those hospitals provide sixty
Speaker 11: percent of care for car accidents, heart attacks, strokes, and
Speaker 11: other trauma mister Bianco.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll tell you what mister Bianco had to
Speaker 1: say about this after the news. It's the John Phillips
Speaker 1: Show and we have one more hour to go. Don't
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