WEBVTT - Professor Barbara Stone previews the June Primary 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:01.960 And very happy Monday to you. 0:00:02.000 --> 0:00:04.480 At twelve oh six in the West Eats the Giant 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:07.960 at Phillips Show, mister Randy Weggs in Culver City. John, 0:00:08.039 --> 0:00:11.280 Here we are the day before election day in the 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:15.280 state of California. The June primary is tomorrow, and as 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:18.720 of nine minutes ago in the state of California, with 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:22.200 twenty three million ballots that were sent out, three point 0:00:22.280 --> 0:00:27.440 six million got sent back a return rate of sixteen percent. 0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:31.440 And we have a big show for you today. That's 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:34.320 a little bit complicated, so let's go ahead and go 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:38.160 through the schedule so you know what's coming up. At 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:41.839 twelve thirty five, Professor Barbara Stone is going to join 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:45.440 us from cal State Fullerton. At one o'clock, right at 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:49.120 the top of the fixed California hour, Spencer Pratt, candidate 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:52.440 for mayor of Los Angeles. He's going to be here 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:56.240 and weigh in on his race running against Karen Bass, 0:00:56.240 --> 0:00:59.320 who once another four years as mayor of the nation's 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:03.480 second law largest city. And then at two o'clock we're 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:06.480 going to open up the phone lines to candidates. I 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:09.200 know there's a lot of people running for various offices. 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:15.679 The state legislature, Congress, City Council, Board of Equalization, school board, 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:19.640 whatever the case may be, who haven't had an opportunity 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:23.200 to come on the show and pitch their campaigns. We 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:26.720 obviously can't make time for every candidate in every office. 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:29.000 So what we're going to do the two o'clock hour 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:31.640 is we're going to open up the phones. So if 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:34.480 you are a candidate for office and you want to 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:36.480 pitch your campaign, we'll give you a few minutes to 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:39.640 do that and make your case to voters the day 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:43.360 before the election. So if you're a candidate, or you 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:46.920 know someone or support someone who is running for office, 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:49.520 and you want them to be able to use this 0:01:49.680 --> 0:01:53.400 platform to make their pitch to voters, let them know 0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:56.440 that at two o'clock we will open up the phone 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:59.400 lines at eight hundred two two two five two two 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:02.680 two one eight hundred two two two five two two 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:06.040 two and allow them to make their pitch. This works 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:09.880 for southern California, northern California. I know there are many 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:11.960 of you who listen out of state. We're not taking 0:02:12.000 --> 0:02:14.919 out of state candidates, but anyone whose name will appear 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:18.160 on a ballot in the state of California is allowed 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:20.280 to call in and pitch their campaign. 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:22.000 Now, all of. 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:26.160 That being said, Randy, we got some doozies of emails 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:26.960 over the weekend. 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:30.280 John, there are a few people that are a little 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:33.360 upset with you. Let me read this email from Mark 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:37.880 and San Diego. I have enjoyed the show, but unfortunately, 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:41.400 when the gambling talk show Captain went all in on 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:45.760 a red wing dominance strategy, it concerned me. If the 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:48.960 Republicans are left out of the general election for governor 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:53.200 of California, I will end up blaming John Phillips. This 0:02:53.240 --> 0:02:57.720 will make it impossible to listen in. Loved your show, 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:02.520 Mark and San Diego, all. 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:05.840 Right, and there were others that were similar in tone 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:08.720 correct Dave writes in it, Johnny, don't like show. At 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:12.000 gmail dot com, I believe you were wrong about voting 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:17.440 for Bianco. It looks like it'll be two Democrats were screwed. Okay, 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:21.520 So I have already cast my ballot. I cast my 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:26.680 ballot for Chad Bianco for governor. If I had not voted, 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:29.639 and I were voting today, I would cast my ballot 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:31.440 for Chad Bianco for governor. 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:34.120 I'm not changing. 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:39.560 My picks on the website, and I'm not changing how 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:42.440 I think on this, and I'll tell you why. 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:46.240 There was a poll that was released. 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:49.600 Today showing what a head to head matchup of Steve 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:54.000 Hilton versus Xavier Besserra and Steve Hilton versus Tom Steyer 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:58.640 would look like in November. The poll found that Tom 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:03.320 Steyer would win with fifty five percent and Steve Hilton 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:07.240 would lose with thirty four percent. That would be a 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:12.600 twenty one point Styr victory. If I head to head 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:17.080 matchup between Steve Hilton and Javier Besserra was on the ballot, 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:21.120 Biserah would have fifty eight percent and Hilton would have. 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:22.120 Thirty five percent. 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:27.000 That would be a twenty three point Javier Besserra victory. 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:32.760 Meaning if it is a Republican versus a Democratic matchup, 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:37.320 it is almost certain the result will be a double 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:43.960 digit Democratic victory, probably by north of twenty percent. That 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:48.359 means the Republican candidate would lose and the Democrats would 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:52.760 control the governor's mansion for another four years and you 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:58.440 go John Well. Chad Bianco, according to the betting markets 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:01.520 right before the show started today, only has a five 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:06.239 percent chance of making the runoff. Five percent that means 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:09.320 ninety five times out of one hundred he won't make 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:14.080 the runoff. Yes, I know, but at least you have 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:18.640 a chance. At least you have an opportunity to win 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:23.040 the seat. What is the goal? This is the question 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:26.479 that I asked to people. What is the goal? Is 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:29.520 the goal to lose with dignity or is the goal 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:33.320 to give yourself an opportunity to win the seat. If 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:36.480 the goal is to lose with dignity, that do whatever 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:39.679 it is that you want to do. If the goal 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:44.560 is to win the seat, you have one path. That's it, 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:51.160 and that is a democratic lockout in November. Now it 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:55.600 became a lot more difficult to achieve after Trump endorsed Hilton. 0:05:55.960 --> 0:05:59.560 Whoever is giving him advice in California is giving him 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:03.880 her riff advice. I realize that he's paying attention to 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:07.120 a run right now, so he's relying on his people 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:11.240 in California. We shot ourselves in the foot on this 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:14.880 one by convincing him to get involved and to pick 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:18.799 a candidate. Because the moment he picked a candidate, Steve 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:22.720 Hilton's number is shot through the roof and Steve Hilton 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:25.679 will likely make the runoff. Now There are some polls 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:28.880 that say he may not, but most of them, including 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:30.640 the betting markets, say. 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:33.040 That he will. Odds are Steve. 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:35.560 Hilton is going to make the runoff, in part in 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:39.919 large part due to the Trump endorsement. But if you 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:44.680 don't win the seat, what's the point. And I know 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:46.920 there are people who are out there and they say, well, 0:06:47.960 --> 0:06:52.200 it's going to do damage to downballot candidates. If the 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:56.799 Republicans take a swing and miss and they don't get 0:06:56.880 --> 0:07:00.960 a Democratic lockout, and they get locked out often November ballot, 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:04.040 that's going to be bad for down ballot candidates. 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:05.000 Well, guess what. 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:10.040 Look at the statewide constitutional offices. You know, the last 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:13.120 time a Republican won one of those was two thousand 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:16.240 and six when it was Arnold Swarzenegger at the top 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:17.200 of the ticket. 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:19.080 And Steve Poisoner for insurance commissioner. 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:23.480 It is highly unlikely that any of those candidates are 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:27.520 going to win. Look at what's going on with the 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:32.720 congressional districts prior to Prop fifty. Maybe you would have 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:36.640 a point. Maybe you could say, look, here's the deal. 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:39.680 If there's no Republican on the top of the ticket, 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:44.480 the Democrats could win control of Congress. So therefore those 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:48.240 races are important, and it is important to have a 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:50.680 Republican on the top of the ticket, even if you're 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:56.880 sacrificing that office to save control of Congress. Okay, but 0:07:57.000 --> 0:08:00.360 now we have a jerrymanderd map, where there or what 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:05.920 three races that are being contested. Everything else is a 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:10.200 foregone conclusion. One of them's in San Diego, one of 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:13.720 them's in the Central Valley, and one of them's in Sacramento. 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:14.840 That's it. 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:20.560 If Republicans get locked off the top of the ticket, 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:25.480 that's not going to determine who controls Congress. Okay, how 0:08:25.520 --> 0:08:30.640 about the state legislature. Democrats currently have a super majority 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:34.120 in the state Senate. They have a supermajority in the 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:39.719 State Assembly. What you're arguing over is whether or not 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:43.679 their super majority has X number of seats or why 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:47.320 number of seats. But you're not going to break the supermajority, 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:50.000 and you're not going to get Republicans control of the 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:52.640 State Assembly or the state Senate. That is not on 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:57.240 the table. They're not playing in enough seats, Which leads 0:08:57.280 --> 0:09:01.120 me to the question, what do you have to lose? 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:06.240 Why not go for broke and do everything you can 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:12.360 to win. I do not understand this loser's mentality of 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:14.439 trying to lose a certain way. 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:17.120 And it's so important to lose a certain. 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:22.520 Way because it'll look bad if we don't. 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:25.320 That is an awful attitude to have. 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:32.200 You look at teams, athletic teams that go into matches, 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:35.480 that go into games with the working assumption that they're 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:41.520 not going to win. Guess what happens they lose. If 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:45.800 you want to give yourself an opportunity to win this seat, 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:49.080 there is one play for Republicans and that is a 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:50.320 democratic lookout. 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:52.200 That is literally it. 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:59.040 If the object is to lose a certain way, then fine, 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:02.040 But I don't understand while you go into a game 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:06.720 with that mentality, what do you get if it's a 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:11.600 Republican versus a Democratic matchup in November and you lose 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:14.920 by twenty three points? What is it that you got 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:21.000 out of that? What value do you have? Is it 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:23.960 going to determine who controls the state legislature? No? 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:27.079 Is it going to determine who controls the Congress? 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:27.400 No? 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:38.960 What does it matter? The answer is it doesn't. So 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:43.200 my attitude is do what you can do with the 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:47.080 hand to cards that you've been dealt to get the 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:51.800 best possible outcome, because that's the only thing you can do. 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:56.600 You can wish that things weren't a certain way. You 0:10:56.640 --> 0:11:00.240 could wish that things were something that they earned, but 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:05.079 you're just lying to yourself. You have to deal with reality. 0:11:05.559 --> 0:11:08.920 You have to deal with the electorate as it stands 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:14.240 right now in California, and what is possible because let 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:17.280 me tell you, Eric Swalwell is. 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:18.439 Out of the race right now. 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:21.920 He dropped out some time ago, and at one point 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:24.520 in time he was the Democratic leader in the primary. 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:29.880 Let's just play along for a second and assume that 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:37.880 the stories involving alleged sexual rape and sexual harassment didn't 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:41.600 break until after the primary, and let's say it was 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:47.120 Eric Swalwell versus one of the Republicans. I am here 0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:50.760 to tell you the Democratic voters in California would vote 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:56.120 for Eric Swalwell, an accused rapist, over a Republican. I 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:59.160 don't think that would change their vote. I really don't. 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:03.880 The people I know who are Democratic voters in this 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:09.600 state would prefer an accused rapist Democrat over any Republican. 0:12:11.600 --> 0:12:15.479 Maybe the people you know are different that's the attitude 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:21.160 of the Democrats I talked to. Take Javier Bessera, whose 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:24.319 chief of staff just cut a deal with the Feds, 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:26.840 and Dana Williamson just cut a deal with the Feds 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:29.920 or is alleged to have done so, or is trying 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:32.880 to do so, And then you have a third person too, 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:36.640 and you go, okay, well, Besarah could get indeted for 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:40.640 money laundering, but Sarah could get in dieted for tax evasion. 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:43.600 Tom Steyer has an ad out right now suggesting that 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:46.280 that could happen, and Besarah has asked him to pull 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:49.080 the ad, which he's not going to do obviously. I 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:53.800 think it's entirely possible that could happen, because either Besarah 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:56.000 was in on it or he's the dumbest man on 0:12:56.120 --> 0:13:02.440 planet Earth. Either way, it's not good for him. But 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:06.480 I don't see Democratic voters changing their mind over alleged 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:10.720 money laundering. I don't think they care because, let me 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:13.600 tell you, if they would be willing to vote for 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:17.000 Eric Swalwell, an accused rapist, they're not going to have 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:21.000 a problem with money laundering. They're just going to say 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:24.599 it's Trump out to get him and he's being targeted 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:27.320 because he's a Democrat and he could be the next 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:32.520 governor in California, and it is a political prosecution. And 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:35.280 even if he did it, who cares. He's not a Republican. 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:39.600 That's the attitude that they're going to have. And maybe 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:42.200 he won't win by twenty three points, but he's going 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:45.520 to win by double digits. It's not going to be 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:47.880 a close election. And then he's going to be a 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:52.559 horrible governor because the guy doesn't have the intellect or 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:56.080 abilities to do the job. And we're reminded of this 0:13:56.200 --> 0:14:01.720 time and time again. But the point is, you're not 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:04.800 going to beat him if it's him versus a Republican. 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:10.000 The way to beat him is in the primary. The 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:12.960 way to beat him is to deny him real estate 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:17.240 on the November ballot. That's it. Is it a log 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:22.480 shot and a hail Mary, Yes it is. But it's 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:26.120 the best play you have. And when you don't have 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:31.640 great options, you have to take the least bad one. 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:36.800 Is there risk, Yes, there's risk in everything in life. 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:42.200 That's the way it works. If you're scared, call the police. 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:47.880 But with the options that you have, it is the 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:51.560 only option that gives you an opportunity to win the seat. 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:56.520 That's it. This is it. 0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:00.840 So you can do whatever you want with your vote. 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:03.240 I don't tell you how to vote. I tell you 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:08.040 how I'm voting, and I explain why I'm voting that way. 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:14.080 But as we approach the election one day before the election, 0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:17.800 although it's not really election day anymore, it's election season 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:22.320 because we vote for a month, at least consider that argument, 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:29.120 because let me tell you, if we end up with 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:34.400 Javier Besserra or Tom Steyer as governor, it is not 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:37.960 going to get better from where things were with Gavin Newsom. 0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:43.160 In fact, Tom Steyer is to the left of Gavin Newsom, 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:47.840 and Javier Bessera has a room temperature IQ. So he's 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:50.680 going to be the Joe Biden of California. It's going 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:53.280 to be some group of people you don't know running 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:59.360 the state. Why not give yourself a chance? Remember with 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:02.160 Donald Trumpp said when he went and he went to 0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:06.680 I forget which black group it was, into BLACP or someone. 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:11.160 He went to a group that doesn't typically support Republicans, 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:14.360 and he pitched himself. He went there and he asked 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:18.160 them for their vote. And after he asked them for 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:22.200 their vote. He said, what do you have to lose? 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:27.120 And you know what, he did better with the black 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:31.480 vote than Mitt Romney did, and he did better with 0:16:31.560 --> 0:16:35.720 the black vote than John McCain did because he went 0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:38.760 in there and asked them for their vote, and people 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:40.840 liked to be asked for their vote. It's a sign 0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:44.720 of respect. And he posed a question that was a 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:49.400 legitimate question. After voting for the Democratic Party in lockstep 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:55.400 for decades and generations, what do you have? What do 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:58.720 you have to lose to try something different? What do 0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:02.240 you have to lose to role the dice on someone 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:07.120 who belongs to a party that you typically don't vote for. 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:11.679 And the answer was they had nothing to lose, and 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:14.320 many of them took the leap and voted for him. 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:18.240 They rolled the dice and they said, all right, Biden 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:21.400 and the Democrats or Hillary and the Democrats at the time, 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:26.800 they've done nothing for me, so why not give someone 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:30.520 else a chance? And they roll the dice. And that's 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:34.160 what I did in this election. 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So tomorrow we're here from noon 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:16.720 to three. As always, I'm here from five to six 0:19:16.800 --> 0:19:20.280 on seven ninety KABC for my Newsblitz show, and then 0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:23.120 from seven to nine we're going live and statewide. We'll 0:19:23.119 --> 0:19:27.080 be here from seven to nine pm on KABC in 0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:31.600 Southern California, KSFO in the Bay, and KMJ and Fresno. 0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:34.920 Be joined by our buddies Frank Motech of KABC and 0:19:34.920 --> 0:19:36.520 Phil Dressi of KMJ. 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:38.040 We will give you all. 0:19:37.920 --> 0:19:40.240 The results for all the races that we can give 0:19:40.240 --> 0:19:42.720 you results when the polls close at eight o'clock. 0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:48.119 All right, we have Spencer Pratt coming up after the 0:19:48.160 --> 0:19:50.560 news at one, and we're also going to be taking 0:19:50.600 --> 0:19:53.479 calls from candidates to two o'clock hour. If you're a 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:57.960 candidate for office, if you support someone who is on 0:19:58.080 --> 0:19:59.639 the ballot, you want to let them know that they 0:19:59.640 --> 0:20:02.119 can call all in and promote their campaign. We're going 0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:04.159 to do that at the two o'clock hour at eight 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:07.840 hundred two two two five two two two. All right, 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:09.680 it is our pleasure to welcome our next guest to 0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:12.280 the program. She is the professor of Political science and 0:20:12.359 --> 0:20:15.320 meritis at California State University at Fullerton. 0:20:15.560 --> 0:20:16.600 Professor Barbara Stone. 0:20:16.800 --> 0:20:21.800 Welcome, hi, John. So what's your read at this point 0:20:21.840 --> 0:20:22.840 on the governor's race? 0:20:25.400 --> 0:20:32.960 What's my read? Actually a couple three things of By 0:20:33.000 --> 0:20:36.880 the way, I hope if only to try to understand 0:20:36.920 --> 0:20:40.800 that your listeners listen to your first half hour because 0:20:40.880 --> 0:20:44.880 you explained your position as clearly as anybody could, including 0:20:44.960 --> 0:20:49.840 the downsides. And since your program's not supposed to be 0:20:49.960 --> 0:20:53.000 for dummies, all those people are voting for Javier Binsera 0:20:54.040 --> 0:20:56.920 that they don't have to agree with you, but they 0:20:57.000 --> 0:21:02.920 should hear what you said, and i'd lead in. It's 0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:07.639 funny because you made the case for Republicans should have 0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:11.960 focused from the beginning on getting two Republicans in the runoff. 0:21:12.000 --> 0:21:17.639 That was your only chance. Historically, that certainly true. The 0:21:17.720 --> 0:21:20.159 funny thing is I talked to lots of people on 0:21:20.280 --> 0:21:24.520 both sides of the aisle, and as soon as Donald 0:21:24.560 --> 0:21:29.840 Trump made his endorsement, Republicans stopped talking about that. That 0:21:30.000 --> 0:21:35.720 just simply didn't enter in to their thinking. Who paid 0:21:35.760 --> 0:21:41.320 attention were the Democrats. If you will recall the original 0:21:41.400 --> 0:21:45.000 thing going that up to twenty five percent chance two 0:21:45.080 --> 0:21:49.200 Republicans could get in the runoff came from Democrat consultants, 0:21:49.920 --> 0:21:54.640 and every Democrat I have talked to appears to believe 0:21:54.880 --> 0:21:58.040 that that was and still is. They don't know we 0:21:58.119 --> 0:22:03.240 tanked it, that that was a real possibility. So like 0:22:03.320 --> 0:22:05.159 I had lunch a couple of days ago with a 0:22:05.160 --> 0:22:08.440 couple of ladies died in the world, Democrats, they're exactly 0:22:08.480 --> 0:22:11.800 the people you're describing. They don't care if he murdered somebody. 0:22:11.960 --> 0:22:15.160 He's a Democrat, other guy's a Republican. They're voting Democrat. 0:22:16.480 --> 0:22:20.320 At least one of them really really truly wanted to 0:22:20.320 --> 0:22:26.720 be a Katie Porter voter, but she really really really 0:22:26.840 --> 0:22:31.280 didn't want two Republicans in the runoff. So a person 0:22:31.400 --> 0:22:35.440 who votes almost immediately when she gets her ballot had 0:22:35.480 --> 0:22:40.239 not yet voted as of actually this last Saturday, and 0:22:40.320 --> 0:22:43.440 it was because she was waiting to make sure how 0:22:43.480 --> 0:22:46.679 it played out, because she was going to vote for 0:22:46.720 --> 0:22:51.560 whichever Democrats showed ahead. And she is not stupid far 0:22:51.600 --> 0:22:54.800 as I can tell. She doesn't. I mean, Bessarah would 0:22:54.880 --> 0:22:57.960 not be her choice, but he's going to keep the 0:22:58.240 --> 0:23:02.040 Republicans from sweeping, so that's how she was going to vote. 0:23:02.680 --> 0:23:06.439 We may have dropped the thought, but they didn't, So 0:23:06.920 --> 0:23:09.080 I think that means you're going to get but Sarah 0:23:09.119 --> 0:23:13.040 in the runoff, probably, although not for sure for sure, 0:23:14.080 --> 0:23:18.679 but I think probably. And most of the polling shows 0:23:18.760 --> 0:23:22.359 Hilton in Styre quite close. In fact, it's all within 0:23:22.400 --> 0:23:25.600 the margin of error pretty much, except the last Emerson 0:23:25.680 --> 0:23:30.360 poll on the top person. And listening to the other 0:23:30.480 --> 0:23:33.800 numbers you were reading off like about how much Hilton 0:23:33.840 --> 0:23:39.560 would lose to Besarah by Interestingly enough, I'm quite confident 0:23:39.800 --> 0:23:43.680 that he would lose, but I don't think by that margin. 0:23:43.840 --> 0:23:46.520 What was his name, Cox, that had the bear and 0:23:46.560 --> 0:23:50.679 that was his campaign Oh dear lord, he did better 0:23:50.760 --> 0:23:54.720 than thirty three percent, So I actually suspect without knowing 0:23:54.760 --> 0:23:57.840 that the polling you're looking at at least on the 0:23:57.920 --> 0:24:05.080 margins under represents Republicans. And therefore, if you made me bet, 0:24:05.080 --> 0:24:07.840 and I don't bet on anything except horses and sure things, 0:24:08.320 --> 0:24:10.919 if you made me bet, I would bet that the 0:24:11.000 --> 0:24:13.000 runoff will be be Sarah and Hilton. 0:24:14.240 --> 0:24:17.080 And what do you think happens in November? If it's that? 0:24:17.400 --> 0:24:21.160 If that's the case, John John, I told you your 0:24:21.200 --> 0:24:25.639 program is not for dummies, and I don't want to 0:24:25.680 --> 0:24:28.119 be on the program for dummies. So if you have 0:24:28.280 --> 0:24:32.320 somebody who honestly thinks Steve Hilton can win, that fine. 0:24:32.560 --> 0:24:35.199 We all believe what we believe, but there are no 0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:40.359 numbers anytime that would support that. 0:24:41.800 --> 0:24:46.120 Now, Chen who ran for Controller did about as good 0:24:46.160 --> 0:24:48.200 of a job as you could do as a Republican 0:24:48.240 --> 0:24:52.280 statewide candidate. That was in what twenty twenty two when 0:24:52.280 --> 0:24:55.800 he ran for controller he ended up with forty four percent. 0:24:55.880 --> 0:24:59.439 That's with all of the newspaper endorsements, that is, with 0:25:00.359 --> 0:25:05.800 certain high profile Democratic donors getting behind him, and Democratic 0:25:06.160 --> 0:25:11.159 influencers and all of the Republican influencers and elected officials, 0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:14.359 and forty four percent appears to be the high water 0:25:14.440 --> 0:25:15.280 mark right now. 0:25:16.280 --> 0:25:19.159 Yes, and I think is far and away the high watermark. 0:25:19.480 --> 0:25:22.119 And the funniest thing. Your next guest is going to 0:25:22.119 --> 0:25:25.840 be Spencer Pratt, who is going to bring in some 0:25:25.960 --> 0:25:30.760 votes because some people know him from his reality TV show. 0:25:30.800 --> 0:25:35.040