Speaker 1: And very happy Monday to you.
Speaker 2: At twelve oh six in the West Eats the Giant
Speaker 2: at Phillips Show, mister Randy Weggs in Culver City. John,
Speaker 2: Here we are the day before election day in the
Speaker 2: state of California. The June primary is tomorrow, and as
Speaker 2: of nine minutes ago in the state of California, with
Speaker 2: twenty three million ballots that were sent out, three point
Speaker 2: six million got sent back a return rate of sixteen percent.
Speaker 2: And we have a big show for you today. That's
Speaker 2: a little bit complicated, so let's go ahead and go
Speaker 2: through the schedule so you know what's coming up. At
Speaker 2: twelve thirty five, Professor Barbara Stone is going to join
Speaker 2: us from cal State Fullerton. At one o'clock, right at
Speaker 2: the top of the fixed California hour, Spencer Pratt, candidate
Speaker 2: for mayor of Los Angeles. He's going to be here
Speaker 2: and weigh in on his race running against Karen Bass,
Speaker 2: who once another four years as mayor of the nation's
Speaker 2: second law largest city. And then at two o'clock we're
Speaker 2: going to open up the phone lines to candidates. I
Speaker 2: know there's a lot of people running for various offices.
Speaker 2: The state legislature, Congress, City Council, Board of Equalization, school board,
Speaker 2: whatever the case may be, who haven't had an opportunity
Speaker 2: to come on the show and pitch their campaigns. We
Speaker 2: obviously can't make time for every candidate in every office.
Speaker 2: So what we're going to do the two o'clock hour
Speaker 2: is we're going to open up the phones. So if
Speaker 2: you are a candidate for office and you want to
Speaker 2: pitch your campaign, we'll give you a few minutes to
Speaker 2: do that and make your case to voters the day
Speaker 2: before the election. So if you're a candidate, or you
Speaker 2: know someone or support someone who is running for office,
Speaker 2: and you want them to be able to use this
Speaker 2: platform to make their pitch to voters, let them know
Speaker 2: that at two o'clock we will open up the phone
Speaker 2: lines at eight hundred two two two five two two
Speaker 2: two one eight hundred two two two five two two
Speaker 2: two and allow them to make their pitch. This works
Speaker 2: for southern California, northern California. I know there are many
Speaker 2: of you who listen out of state. We're not taking
Speaker 2: out of state candidates, but anyone whose name will appear
Speaker 2: on a ballot in the state of California is allowed
Speaker 2: to call in and pitch their campaign.
Speaker 1: Now, all of.
Speaker 2: That being said, Randy, we got some doozies of emails
Speaker 2: over the weekend.
Speaker 3: John, there are a few people that are a little
Speaker 3: upset with you. Let me read this email from Mark
Speaker 3: and San Diego. I have enjoyed the show, but unfortunately,
Speaker 3: when the gambling talk show Captain went all in on
Speaker 3: a red wing dominance strategy, it concerned me. If the
Speaker 3: Republicans are left out of the general election for governor
Speaker 3: of California, I will end up blaming John Phillips. This
Speaker 3: will make it impossible to listen in. Loved your show,
Speaker 3: Mark and San Diego, all.
Speaker 2: Right, and there were others that were similar in tone
Speaker 2: correct Dave writes in it, Johnny, don't like show. At
Speaker 2: gmail dot com, I believe you were wrong about voting
Speaker 2: for Bianco. It looks like it'll be two Democrats were screwed. Okay,
Speaker 2: So I have already cast my ballot. I cast my
Speaker 2: ballot for Chad Bianco for governor. If I had not voted,
Speaker 2: and I were voting today, I would cast my ballot
Speaker 2: for Chad Bianco for governor.
Speaker 1: I'm not changing.
Speaker 2: My picks on the website, and I'm not changing how
Speaker 2: I think on this, and I'll tell you why.
Speaker 1: There was a poll that was released.
Speaker 2: Today showing what a head to head matchup of Steve
Speaker 2: Hilton versus Xavier Besserra and Steve Hilton versus Tom Steyer
Speaker 2: would look like in November. The poll found that Tom
Speaker 2: Steyer would win with fifty five percent and Steve Hilton
Speaker 2: would lose with thirty four percent. That would be a
Speaker 2: twenty one point Styr victory. If I head to head
Speaker 2: matchup between Steve Hilton and Javier Besserra was on the ballot,
Speaker 2: Biserah would have fifty eight percent and Hilton would have.
Speaker 1: Thirty five percent.
Speaker 2: That would be a twenty three point Javier Besserra victory.
Speaker 2: Meaning if it is a Republican versus a Democratic matchup,
Speaker 2: it is almost certain the result will be a double
Speaker 2: digit Democratic victory, probably by north of twenty percent. That
Speaker 2: means the Republican candidate would lose and the Democrats would
Speaker 2: control the governor's mansion for another four years and you
Speaker 2: go John Well. Chad Bianco, according to the betting markets
Speaker 2: right before the show started today, only has a five
Speaker 2: percent chance of making the runoff. Five percent that means
Speaker 2: ninety five times out of one hundred he won't make
Speaker 2: the runoff. Yes, I know, but at least you have
Speaker 2: a chance. At least you have an opportunity to win
Speaker 2: the seat. What is the goal? This is the question
Speaker 2: that I asked to people. What is the goal? Is
Speaker 2: the goal to lose with dignity or is the goal
Speaker 2: to give yourself an opportunity to win the seat. If
Speaker 2: the goal is to lose with dignity, that do whatever
Speaker 2: it is that you want to do. If the goal
Speaker 2: is to win the seat, you have one path. That's it,
Speaker 2: and that is a democratic lockout in November. Now it
Speaker 2: became a lot more difficult to achieve after Trump endorsed Hilton.
Speaker 2: Whoever is giving him advice in California is giving him
Speaker 2: her riff advice. I realize that he's paying attention to
Speaker 2: a run right now, so he's relying on his people
Speaker 2: in California. We shot ourselves in the foot on this
Speaker 2: one by convincing him to get involved and to pick
Speaker 2: a candidate. Because the moment he picked a candidate, Steve
Speaker 2: Hilton's number is shot through the roof and Steve Hilton
Speaker 2: will likely make the runoff. Now There are some polls
Speaker 2: that say he may not, but most of them, including
Speaker 2: the betting markets, say.
Speaker 1: That he will. Odds are Steve.
Speaker 2: Hilton is going to make the runoff, in part in
Speaker 2: large part due to the Trump endorsement. But if you
Speaker 2: don't win the seat, what's the point. And I know
Speaker 2: there are people who are out there and they say, well,
Speaker 2: it's going to do damage to downballot candidates. If the
Speaker 2: Republicans take a swing and miss and they don't get
Speaker 2: a Democratic lockout, and they get locked out often November ballot,
Speaker 2: that's going to be bad for down ballot candidates.
Speaker 1: Well, guess what.
Speaker 2: Look at the statewide constitutional offices. You know, the last
Speaker 2: time a Republican won one of those was two thousand
Speaker 2: and six when it was Arnold Swarzenegger at the top
Speaker 2: of the ticket.
Speaker 1: And Steve Poisoner for insurance commissioner.
Speaker 2: It is highly unlikely that any of those candidates are
Speaker 2: going to win. Look at what's going on with the
Speaker 2: congressional districts prior to Prop fifty. Maybe you would have
Speaker 2: a point. Maybe you could say, look, here's the deal.
Speaker 2: If there's no Republican on the top of the ticket,
Speaker 2: the Democrats could win control of Congress. So therefore those
Speaker 2: races are important, and it is important to have a
Speaker 2: Republican on the top of the ticket, even if you're
Speaker 2: sacrificing that office to save control of Congress. Okay, but
Speaker 2: now we have a jerrymanderd map, where there or what
Speaker 2: three races that are being contested. Everything else is a
Speaker 2: foregone conclusion. One of them's in San Diego, one of
Speaker 2: them's in the Central Valley, and one of them's in Sacramento.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 2: If Republicans get locked off the top of the ticket,
Speaker 2: that's not going to determine who controls Congress. Okay, how
Speaker 2: about the state legislature. Democrats currently have a super majority
Speaker 2: in the state Senate. They have a supermajority in the
Speaker 2: State Assembly. What you're arguing over is whether or not
Speaker 2: their super majority has X number of seats or why
Speaker 2: number of seats. But you're not going to break the supermajority,
Speaker 2: and you're not going to get Republicans control of the
Speaker 2: State Assembly or the state Senate. That is not on
Speaker 2: the table. They're not playing in enough seats, Which leads
Speaker 2: me to the question, what do you have to lose?
Speaker 2: Why not go for broke and do everything you can
Speaker 2: to win. I do not understand this loser's mentality of
Speaker 2: trying to lose a certain way.
Speaker 1: And it's so important to lose a certain.
Speaker 2: Way because it'll look bad if we don't.
Speaker 1: That is an awful attitude to have.
Speaker 2: You look at teams, athletic teams that go into matches,
Speaker 2: that go into games with the working assumption that they're
Speaker 2: not going to win. Guess what happens they lose. If
Speaker 2: you want to give yourself an opportunity to win this seat,
Speaker 2: there is one play for Republicans and that is a
Speaker 2: democratic lookout.
Speaker 1: That is literally it.
Speaker 2: If the object is to lose a certain way, then fine,
Speaker 2: But I don't understand while you go into a game
Speaker 2: with that mentality, what do you get if it's a
Speaker 2: Republican versus a Democratic matchup in November and you lose
Speaker 2: by twenty three points? What is it that you got
Speaker 2: out of that? What value do you have? Is it
Speaker 2: going to determine who controls the state legislature? No?
Speaker 1: Is it going to determine who controls the Congress?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: What does it matter? The answer is it doesn't. So
Speaker 2: my attitude is do what you can do with the
Speaker 2: hand to cards that you've been dealt to get the
Speaker 2: best possible outcome, because that's the only thing you can do.
Speaker 2: You can wish that things weren't a certain way. You
Speaker 2: could wish that things were something that they earned, but
Speaker 2: you're just lying to yourself. You have to deal with reality.
Speaker 2: You have to deal with the electorate as it stands
Speaker 2: right now in California, and what is possible because let
Speaker 2: me tell you, Eric Swalwell is.
Speaker 1: Out of the race right now.
Speaker 2: He dropped out some time ago, and at one point
Speaker 2: in time he was the Democratic leader in the primary.
Speaker 2: Let's just play along for a second and assume that
Speaker 2: the stories involving alleged sexual rape and sexual harassment didn't
Speaker 2: break until after the primary, and let's say it was
Speaker 2: Eric Swalwell versus one of the Republicans. I am here
Speaker 2: to tell you the Democratic voters in California would vote
Speaker 2: for Eric Swalwell, an accused rapist, over a Republican. I
Speaker 2: don't think that would change their vote. I really don't.
Speaker 2: The people I know who are Democratic voters in this
Speaker 2: state would prefer an accused rapist Democrat over any Republican.
Speaker 2: Maybe the people you know are different that's the attitude
Speaker 2: of the Democrats I talked to. Take Javier Bessera, whose
Speaker 2: chief of staff just cut a deal with the Feds,
Speaker 2: and Dana Williamson just cut a deal with the Feds
Speaker 2: or is alleged to have done so, or is trying
Speaker 2: to do so, And then you have a third person too,
Speaker 2: and you go, okay, well, Besarah could get indeted for
Speaker 2: money laundering, but Sarah could get in dieted for tax evasion.
Speaker 2: Tom Steyer has an ad out right now suggesting that
Speaker 2: that could happen, and Besarah has asked him to pull
Speaker 2: the ad, which he's not going to do obviously. I
Speaker 2: think it's entirely possible that could happen, because either Besarah
Speaker 2: was in on it or he's the dumbest man on
Speaker 2: planet Earth. Either way, it's not good for him. But
Speaker 2: I don't see Democratic voters changing their mind over alleged
Speaker 2: money laundering. I don't think they care because, let me
Speaker 2: tell you, if they would be willing to vote for
Speaker 2: Eric Swalwell, an accused rapist, they're not going to have
Speaker 2: a problem with money laundering. They're just going to say
Speaker 2: it's Trump out to get him and he's being targeted
Speaker 2: because he's a Democrat and he could be the next
Speaker 2: governor in California, and it is a political prosecution. And
Speaker 2: even if he did it, who cares. He's not a Republican.
Speaker 2: That's the attitude that they're going to have. And maybe
Speaker 2: he won't win by twenty three points, but he's going
Speaker 2: to win by double digits. It's not going to be
Speaker 2: a close election. And then he's going to be a
Speaker 2: horrible governor because the guy doesn't have the intellect or
Speaker 2: abilities to do the job. And we're reminded of this
Speaker 2: time and time again. But the point is, you're not
Speaker 2: going to beat him if it's him versus a Republican.
Speaker 2: The way to beat him is in the primary. The
Speaker 2: way to beat him is to deny him real estate
Speaker 2: on the November ballot. That's it. Is it a log
Speaker 2: shot and a hail Mary, Yes it is. But it's
Speaker 2: the best play you have. And when you don't have
Speaker 2: great options, you have to take the least bad one.
Speaker 2: Is there risk, Yes, there's risk in everything in life.
Speaker 2: That's the way it works. If you're scared, call the police.
Speaker 2: But with the options that you have, it is the
Speaker 2: only option that gives you an opportunity to win the seat.
Speaker 1: That's it. This is it.
Speaker 2: So you can do whatever you want with your vote.
Speaker 2: I don't tell you how to vote. I tell you
Speaker 2: how I'm voting, and I explain why I'm voting that way.
Speaker 2: But as we approach the election one day before the election,
Speaker 2: although it's not really election day anymore, it's election season
Speaker 2: because we vote for a month, at least consider that argument,
Speaker 2: because let me tell you, if we end up with
Speaker 2: Javier Besserra or Tom Steyer as governor, it is not
Speaker 2: going to get better from where things were with Gavin Newsom.
Speaker 2: In fact, Tom Steyer is to the left of Gavin Newsom,
Speaker 2: and Javier Bessera has a room temperature IQ. So he's
Speaker 2: going to be the Joe Biden of California. It's going
Speaker 2: to be some group of people you don't know running
Speaker 2: the state. Why not give yourself a chance? Remember with
Speaker 2: Donald Trumpp said when he went and he went to
Speaker 2: I forget which black group it was, into BLACP or someone.
Speaker 2: He went to a group that doesn't typically support Republicans,
Speaker 2: and he pitched himself. He went there and he asked
Speaker 2: them for their vote. And after he asked them for
Speaker 2: their vote. He said, what do you have to lose?
Speaker 2: And you know what, he did better with the black
Speaker 2: vote than Mitt Romney did, and he did better with
Speaker 2: the black vote than John McCain did because he went
Speaker 2: in there and asked them for their vote, and people
Speaker 2: liked to be asked for their vote. It's a sign
Speaker 2: of respect. And he posed a question that was a
Speaker 2: legitimate question. After voting for the Democratic Party in lockstep
Speaker 2: for decades and generations, what do you have? What do
Speaker 2: you have to lose to try something different? What do
Speaker 2: you have to lose to role the dice on someone
Speaker 2: who belongs to a party that you typically don't vote for.
Speaker 2: And the answer was they had nothing to lose, and
Speaker 2: many of them took the leap and voted for him.
Speaker 2: They rolled the dice and they said, all right, Biden
Speaker 2: and the Democrats or Hillary and the Democrats at the time,
Speaker 2: they've done nothing for me, so why not give someone
Speaker 2: else a chance? And they roll the dice. And that's
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Speaker 1: We will give you all.
Speaker 3: The results for all the races that we can give
Speaker 3: you results when the polls close at eight o'clock.
Speaker 2: All right, we have Spencer Pratt coming up after the
Speaker 2: news at one, and we're also going to be taking
Speaker 2: calls from candidates to two o'clock hour. If you're a
Speaker 2: candidate for office, if you support someone who is on
Speaker 2: the ballot, you want to let them know that they
Speaker 2: can call all in and promote their campaign. We're going
Speaker 2: to do that at the two o'clock hour at eight
Speaker 2: hundred two two two five two two two. All right,
Speaker 2: it is our pleasure to welcome our next guest to
Speaker 2: the program. She is the professor of Political science and
Speaker 2: meritis at California State University at Fullerton.
Speaker 1: Professor Barbara Stone.
Speaker 2: Welcome, hi, John. So what's your read at this point
Speaker 2: on the governor's race?
Speaker 4: What's my read? Actually a couple three things of By
Speaker 4: the way, I hope if only to try to understand
Speaker 4: that your listeners listen to your first half hour because
Speaker 4: you explained your position as clearly as anybody could, including
Speaker 4: the downsides. And since your program's not supposed to be
Speaker 4: for dummies, all those people are voting for Javier Binsera
Speaker 4: that they don't have to agree with you, but they
Speaker 4: should hear what you said, and i'd lead in. It's
Speaker 4: funny because you made the case for Republicans should have
Speaker 4: focused from the beginning on getting two Republicans in the runoff.
Speaker 4: That was your only chance. Historically, that certainly true. The
Speaker 4: funny thing is I talked to lots of people on
Speaker 4: both sides of the aisle, and as soon as Donald
Speaker 4: Trump made his endorsement, Republicans stopped talking about that. That
Speaker 4: just simply didn't enter in to their thinking. Who paid
Speaker 4: attention were the Democrats. If you will recall the original
Speaker 4: thing going that up to twenty five percent chance two
Speaker 4: Republicans could get in the runoff came from Democrat consultants,
Speaker 4: and every Democrat I have talked to appears to believe
Speaker 4: that that was and still is. They don't know we
Speaker 4: tanked it, that that was a real possibility. So like
Speaker 4: I had lunch a couple of days ago with a
Speaker 4: couple of ladies died in the world, Democrats, they're exactly
Speaker 4: the people you're describing. They don't care if he murdered somebody.
Speaker 4: He's a Democrat, other guy's a Republican. They're voting Democrat.
Speaker 4: At least one of them really really truly wanted to
Speaker 4: be a Katie Porter voter, but she really really really
Speaker 4: didn't want two Republicans in the runoff. So a person
Speaker 4: who votes almost immediately when she gets her ballot had
Speaker 4: not yet voted as of actually this last Saturday, and
Speaker 4: it was because she was waiting to make sure how
Speaker 4: it played out, because she was going to vote for
Speaker 4: whichever Democrats showed ahead. And she is not stupid far
Speaker 4: as I can tell. She doesn't. I mean, Bessarah would
Speaker 4: not be her choice, but he's going to keep the
Speaker 4: Republicans from sweeping, so that's how she was going to vote.
Speaker 4: We may have dropped the thought, but they didn't, So
Speaker 4: I think that means you're going to get but Sarah
Speaker 4: in the runoff, probably, although not for sure for sure,
Speaker 4: but I think probably. And most of the polling shows
Speaker 4: Hilton in Styre quite close. In fact, it's all within
Speaker 4: the margin of error pretty much, except the last Emerson
Speaker 4: poll on the top person. And listening to the other
Speaker 4: numbers you were reading off like about how much Hilton
Speaker 4: would lose to Besarah by Interestingly enough, I'm quite confident
Speaker 4: that he would lose, but I don't think by that margin.
Speaker 4: What was his name, Cox, that had the bear and
Speaker 4: that was his campaign Oh dear lord, he did better
Speaker 4: than thirty three percent, So I actually suspect without knowing
Speaker 4: that the polling you're looking at at least on the
Speaker 4: margins under represents Republicans. And therefore, if you made me bet,
Speaker 4: and I don't bet on anything except horses and sure things,
Speaker 4: if you made me bet, I would bet that the
Speaker 4: runoff will be be Sarah and Hilton.
Speaker 1: And what do you think happens in November? If it's that?
Speaker 4: If that's the case, John John, I told you your
Speaker 4: program is not for dummies, and I don't want to
Speaker 4: be on the program for dummies. So if you have
Speaker 4: somebody who honestly thinks Steve Hilton can win, that fine.
Speaker 4: We all believe what we believe, but there are no
Speaker 4: numbers anytime that would support that.
Speaker 2: Now, Chen who ran for Controller did about as good
Speaker 2: of a job as you could do as a Republican
Speaker 2: statewide candidate. That was in what twenty twenty two when
Speaker 2: he ran for controller he ended up with forty four percent.
Speaker 2: That's with all of the newspaper endorsements, that is, with
Speaker 2: certain high profile Democratic donors getting behind him, and Democratic
Speaker 2: influencers and all of the Republican influencers and elected officials,
Speaker 2: and forty four percent appears to be the high water
Speaker 2: mark right now.
Speaker 4: Yes, and I think is far and away the high watermark.
Speaker 4: And the funniest thing. Your next guest is going to
Speaker 4: be Spencer Pratt, who is going to bring in some
Speaker 4: votes because some people know him from his reality TV show.
Speaker 4: I guess if you don't watch Fox News, you have
Speaker 4: no idea who Steve Hilton is, so he doesn't see
Speaker 4: I would go well on he people didn't know him,
Speaker 4: blah blah blah. But he had everything you could ask
Speaker 4: for a Republican to have going for him, plus an
Speaker 4: ethnic vote behind him. And I don't see Hilton coming
Speaker 4: anywhere near that, not because there's anything wrong with him,
Speaker 4: just because he doesn't have anything to put He's not arnold.
Speaker 4: Heuts up.
Speaker 2: All right, let's shift gears here and talk about the
Speaker 2: LA mayor's race, because last week I opened up the
Speaker 2: phone lines and asked the question, of all of the
Speaker 2: candidates on the ballot, which one excites you the most?
Speaker 2: And the answer almost to a person with Spencer Pratt,
Speaker 2: including people who live in the city of La people
Speaker 2: who live in Orange County, people who live in cities
Speaker 2: in La County that aren't La City, the Bay area,
Speaker 2: out of state. He has captured the attention of a
Speaker 2: lot of people paying attention to this election, at.
Speaker 4: Least part of it. John, I mean, it's well, I
Speaker 4: think La is ungovernable, so I won't really try to
Speaker 4: be an expert on them. But we live in a
Speaker 4: certain way, and we get our information from social media,
Speaker 4: we get our information from many non traditional sources, and
Speaker 4: let me tell you that boy knows how to work them.
Speaker 4: I absolutely can't believe it. But he is clearly a
Speaker 4: national star. He is the only Republican remotely of that
Speaker 4: sort I can remember where the national media is covering him,
Speaker 4: because he just has a feel for what you do
Speaker 4: to get attention. And you go, well, no, honey, he's
Speaker 4: getting attention, and in something like he's running for that's
Speaker 4: worth a pile of money. Actually, it's a wonderful show
Speaker 4: to watch. By the way, just to comment, and if
Speaker 4: you have any explanation for it, I'd like to hear it.
Speaker 4: I've decided that maybe either the polling is terrible, which
Speaker 4: is perfectly possible, or her La is even further weirdo
Speaker 4: less than I think, because virtually every poll I've seen
Speaker 4: John shows Raman statistically tied with Pratt for the pleasant
Speaker 4: second spot. And I'm just going, seriously, you've got Karen
Speaker 4: Bass and what she pulls off. And then you've got
Speaker 4: a socialist who says she's a socialist may or may
Speaker 4: not be in the runoff. I I don't recommend your
Speaker 4: listeners live in City of LA if they can avoid
Speaker 4: it well.
Speaker 2: And then you have another socialist candidate, that reverend lady,
Speaker 2: who's pulling pretty decently. And if you add what she
Speaker 2: has up with what Nythia Rahman has, the socialist vote
Speaker 2: is doing better than Karen Bass.
Speaker 4: Oh well, by the way, what poll did I just see?
Speaker 4: And John, it's so hard to pull this thing. First
Speaker 4: of all, you have to determine who's actually going to
Speaker 4: vot and that's a problem. And then you have to
Speaker 4: determine whose ballots not getting burned up at drop boxes
Speaker 4: in so in South Los Angeles, you saw that one
Speaker 4: of those happened, so that I'm good to think the
Speaker 4: polling's off. But let's assume the polling is halfway accurate.
Speaker 4: Karen Bath may not make the runoff. How would that
Speaker 4: be crazy saying? Anyhow? And if she cannot make run offs,
Speaker 4: at least theoretically, Spencer Pratt can be mayor at least theoretically,
Speaker 4: I think that's fun but what he is a fracted
Speaker 4: nationwide in terms of attention blows me away.
Speaker 2: What happens if he doesn't make the runoff where he,
Speaker 2: to my eye and it sounds like to your eye,
Speaker 2: has done everything right. The guy has a story, The
Speaker 2: guy has a reason for running. The guy was great
Speaker 2: in the debate, is good in the interviews, is doing
Speaker 2: everything that you want a candidate to do on social media?
Speaker 2: If that turns out not to be enough as LA
Speaker 2: just a lost cause politically, yes.
Speaker 4: Now I say that, I say that was it four
Speaker 4: years ago? Rick Caruso came close. Now, Rick Caruso had
Speaker 4: registered as a Democrat, and they had to bring out
Speaker 4: the sitting president and vice president and all those people
Speaker 4: in order to beat him. So I probably shouldn't say
Speaker 4: what I just did, but put it together with how
Speaker 4: well socialists at least in the polling or running, and
Speaker 4: that place has deteriorated in ways that are unbelievable. Who
Speaker 4: was it somebody was recently talking about not that many
Speaker 4: years ago, LA was seeing the renaissance. Businesses were growing downtown,
Speaker 4: people were moving downtown. It was the coming place. And
Speaker 4: look what liberal democrats have managed to do to the city.
Speaker 4: You'd think somebody would wake up, But of course what
Speaker 4: happens is people take our advice and just move out.
Speaker 4: So that doesn't make it any better. It's a real pity.
Speaker 2: Why do you think so many Democratic voters have such
Speaker 2: a high tolerance for very bad government? Because when you
Speaker 2: talk to them one on one, at least the ones
Speaker 2: that live in the big cities, they're aware that these
Speaker 2: cities are run very poorly. They're aware that they shouldn't
Speaker 2: have to wring the button for the in assistance of
Speaker 2: an associate to buy their shampoo. They're aware that they're
Speaker 2: homeless encampments right outside their kids' schools, yet they continue
Speaker 2: to vote for it. Every time they're given an opportunity.
Speaker 2: They complain about it, but they don't change their behavior
Speaker 2: at the ballot box.
Speaker 4: I can think of two or three different explanations, and
Speaker 4: maybe they're all subservient to something else. John, You act
Speaker 4: as if people understand that if you elect these kinds
Speaker 4: of people, they will do what they say they're going
Speaker 4: to do, and that will result in these policies which
Speaker 4: will affect you badly. By the time you go through one, two, three, four,
Speaker 4: people have lost the thread. They don't They look at
Speaker 4: a field running and they go, oh, I like her.
Speaker 4: I have a friend who actually, if it's female she's
Speaker 4: voting for. That's as far as she's going to go.
Speaker 4: You have I like this person, or oh, look she's
Speaker 4: good on this that I like most of it, very performative.
Speaker 4: They don't put that together with this person will appoint
Speaker 4: these people, These people will do this, This will result
Speaker 4: in something very bad for you. I honest, honestly believe
Speaker 4: it's a very low level of conceptualization among the public.
Speaker 4: And if you pin the public down on it, they
Speaker 4: would go, no, no, no, you're implying I'm stupid. I'm
Speaker 4: not stupid. I just don't care. And that's what you're
Speaker 4: up against. Now I can make that excuse for the public.
Speaker 4: I guess it's an excuse. What do we have with
Speaker 4: Silicon Valley? Those idiots who over the years, they certainly
Speaker 4: should know more than just Sally a citizen, And they've
Speaker 4: been giving money to left wing Democrats for years and
Speaker 4: years and years, so they've been supporting this. I get
Speaker 4: on them way before I get on the voters, because
Speaker 4: their money could change things, not just overnight, but it could.
Speaker 4: And it's funny I have good Republican friends who are
Speaker 4: looking at the billionaire's tax, aren't going to be on
Speaker 4: the ballot, and who think it's horrible, but thinks all
Speaker 4: those guys deserve it because they've been supporting these day
Speaker 4: Democrats who are the ones who, of course have given
Speaker 4: us the problems.
Speaker 2: What do we do to bring Silicon Valley along and
Speaker 2: educate them on the politics of California and what they
Speaker 2: need to do to make the state a normal place again.
Speaker 4: How's this, John? We could start by instituting a billionaire's
Speaker 4: tax that will hit them. Oh, I guess that's what
Speaker 4: the Democrats are doing.
Speaker 2: That really is playing with fire for them, because if
Speaker 2: they wake them up and get them engaged and get
Speaker 2: them I guess acting rationally politically with their money and
Speaker 2: their support and their technology, that could really pose a
Speaker 2: problem for the Democrats in California.
Speaker 4: I think that that's true, and there are there are
Speaker 4: some things actually what has to happen. You have to
Speaker 4: have the We have decent people who are still willing
Speaker 4: to live in the state, who are still willing to
Speaker 4: be Republicans, who are willing to put in the time
Speaker 4: they have to do, and even more than we do
Speaker 4: basic grassroots organizing if that sounds right, not because in
Speaker 4: and of itself that will accomplish anything. It won't. But
Speaker 4: you have the troops ready. If in fact, the idiots
Speaker 4: with I mean the very rich people with all the money,
Speaker 4: decide that maybe they've been wrong, and maybe after they
Speaker 4: pour the money in in November, which by the way,
Speaker 4: is when they're going to that, maybe they should be
Speaker 4: thinking about at least trying to make the state competitive.
Speaker 4: And they need they can move out of it. A
Speaker 4: lot of them have, but if they'd meant it, they
Speaker 4: could make a difference. And that's the only place I
Speaker 4: can find it, because you've got to have huge bucks
Speaker 4: over a period of time.
Speaker 2: Professor Barbara Stone, Professor of Political Science Emeritus at California
Speaker 2: State University at Fullerton. And you're gonna be with us
Speaker 2: on election night tomorrow from seven to nine.
Speaker 4: Yes, And by the way, you know, I know you
Speaker 4: have to get off, but you know how dangerous that
Speaker 4: is because today I say this is gonna happen, and
Speaker 4: then tomorrow night you go, well, all.
Speaker 2: Right, well we'll check in tomorrow night. Professor Barberstone, thank you.
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