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Speaker 2: Dirty Work on a Thursday afternoon out of Copeland Pop

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Speaker 2: and joined now by Danny Emmermanni covers the Warriors for

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Speaker 3: What's what's going on?

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Speaker 2: You know who doesn't want to hear about Tarret Jeter

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Speaker 2: being a face of the franchise? This guy right here, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's not a Jeter guy.

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Speaker 3: Did David Ortiz come up in the conversation.

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Speaker 2: No, but uh not not on the Steph Curry level, certainly.

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Speaker 3: Of Steph Curry never had this as my FN City moment,

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Speaker 3: No he didn't.

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Speaker 2: He also never, like you know, been a drug lord's

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Speaker 2: wife and the Cominican Republican and got shot for it.

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Speaker 2: Plus steroids too, you know, plus plus the whole juicing thing.

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Speaker 2: But we won't get into that day.

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Speaker 3: We're here to talk at positive.

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Speaker 2: No, of course, just like Bonds, I'm with you. But

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Speaker 2: he also never brought a glove to the yard, So

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Speaker 2: I don't even have beef with Poppy. I just like,

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Speaker 2: just like tearing guys down crazy to tell. By the way,

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Speaker 2: do you know why his nick name is Big Poppy?

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Speaker 2: Do you know about how he never knew his teammates names.

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Speaker 3: He's called him Poppy.

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Speaker 4: You know this story?

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Speaker 2: I mean he went already He called basically every American

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Speaker 2: on the team. He goes, hey, what's going on, Poppy?

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Speaker 4: How you doing? Puppy?

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Speaker 2: He called everybody Poppy. So one time, like Veritec called

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Speaker 2: him out about it. It's like on the team Bush,

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Speaker 2: He's like, what's his name? He goes, come on, Poppy,

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Speaker 2: I know his name? He said, do you need to

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Speaker 2: know your teammates' names? So he made him write all

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Speaker 2: the guy's names inside of his hat. The other big

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Speaker 2: story is Dustin. Petroya says one time he's standing there

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Speaker 2: and somebody came up to him and said something about Dustin.

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Speaker 4: He goes, hey, what the f was?

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Speaker 3: That f is Dustin?

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Speaker 4: He says, what do you mean? He goes, who the

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Speaker 4: f is?

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Speaker 2: Dust and goes, dude, that's my name, and he goes

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Speaker 2: That's where he goes, oh, okay, uh huh.

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Speaker 4: That's your name?

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Speaker 3: Because I thought you were a Pete.

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Speaker 2: He goes, I thought you were a PETI, he goes, Dude,

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Speaker 2: we've played like fifteen hundred games together. He goes, He goes,

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Speaker 2: they literally announced my name five thousand times while you

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Speaker 2: were batting after me.

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Speaker 4: I you didn't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I called him, you know, Okay, Poppy, all right, puppy. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that was his whole thing. So they started calling him

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Speaker 2: some bad team. So they think they became Big Poppy

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Speaker 2: because Terrible told everybody else Poppy.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, it's one of my favorite Big Poppy stories.

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Speaker 2: At least he was showing up for games. Steph Curry tonight,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: Game super co get five left.

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Speaker 2: We can't fill the arena with Steph on a Thursday

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Speaker 2: before the the last home game of the year, and.

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Speaker 3: The arena will be filled six hundred and fifth straight

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Speaker 4: How many Laker fans Probably probably quite a few. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: they'll be out there tonight. I mean it is. It

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Speaker 4: is a bumber. We're not gonna see Steph Lebron for

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Speaker 4: the final time this season.

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Speaker 3: It is a bummer. Yeah, this was their last chance

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Speaker 3: year with Lebron where he plays if he does play,

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Speaker 3: I think he probably will play, but we'll see what

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Speaker 3: what team he's on. And yeah, this was gonna be

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Speaker 3: the last chance of the season. They're not going to

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Speaker 3: meet in the playoffs, so yeah, I mean, with Steph

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Speaker 3: being out tonight, the only thing I know for certain

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Speaker 3: is that the team is prioritizing health as much as

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Speaker 3: the tenth seed, so they don't have anything necessarily to

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Speaker 5: So as far as the play and we know that

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Speaker 5: Draymond was asked about the other day and he was like,

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Speaker 5: I'm not really excited about it, but these are the circumstances.

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Speaker 5: And nobody on this team wanted to play in the

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Speaker 5: But at this point, what do you think of the Warriors' chances?

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Speaker 5: You know, Steph Curry coming back. These last two games

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Speaker 5: look better in the Rockets games as in comparison to

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Speaker 5: the Kings game, but if it is Portland, if it

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Speaker 5: is the Clippers, how do you think the Warriors stack up.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna have to play. They're gonna have to be

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Speaker 3: two of Portland, Clippers, and Phoenix. I think what's a

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Speaker 3: we'd probably like to play them, but they don't get

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Speaker 3: them in the in the nine to ten game, right Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Phoenix has kind of been backsliding. They're five hundred since

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Speaker 3: has had the Warrior's number this year. I think their

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Speaker 3: long rangey athletic defenders give them a little bit of trouble,

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Speaker 3: Blazers are the highest turnover eight team in the league,

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Speaker 3: so that's an area where the Warriors could probably take

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Speaker 3: are a tough out. We'll see them on Sunday, but

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Speaker 3: they have Kawhi Leonard and he's the only other player

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Speaker 3: you know, the best player in a single game format.

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Speaker 3: He's had an incredible offensive season, career high twenty eight

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Speaker 3: Every time he puts it up, it's a line drive.

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Speaker 3: You think it's going in, and in a one game scenario,

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Speaker 3: So he's a pretty scary guy that you probably don't

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Speaker 3: want to play. Clippers and Blazers play tomorrow night. In

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Speaker 3: that game will determine a lot as who will be

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Speaker 4: Hey, Danny Emmerman here of the SF Standard.

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Speaker 2: He joins us at Harmonic Brewing Warriors in the Lakers

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Speaker 2: tonight at seven o'clock. Is there any reason to believe

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Speaker 2: even when you like with some of the magic you

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Speaker 2: see when staff hits the floor, like we sat against

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Speaker 2: Houston the other night, I thought it was awesome twenty

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Speaker 2: in the six minute chanks he did at the end

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Speaker 2: of each quarter was fantastic. Is there anything to the

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Speaker 2: thought that he could catch fire for three weeks and

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Speaker 2: that they could do something magical in the first round

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Speaker 2: is what I'm talking about. Get into the actual postseason

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Speaker 2: and make noise against our casey.

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Speaker 3: I know you guys have a lot of guests on

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Speaker 3: the show, which is great, but you're gonna have to

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Speaker 3: find another guest to convince themselves that the Warriors will

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Speaker 3: have a chance against the Thunder.

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Speaker 2: I want to be clear, nobody believes this is nobody

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Speaker 2: nod but Ted Rami has said no, I think it's happening.

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Speaker 2: Ted Raby happened, Well, he might, he might have said,

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Speaker 2: he might have said, I'm not going to write him

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Speaker 2: off for him, but he's like, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I think, I think.

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Speaker 2: I think Ted thinks are getting into the playoffs. I'm

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Speaker 2: not even that far.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know about that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's say they get into the playoffs, they get

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Speaker 3: into a series with the Thunder.

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Speaker 4: It's like, you think you can win three against the

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Speaker 3: I think they can maybe maybe steal one's.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not about Steph, it's about everybody else.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, who else is he out there?

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Speaker 4: That's my point is it's not about staff.

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Speaker 3: Can Christaps Porzingis stay healthy for the next three weeks?

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Speaker 4: Had he heard fewer than five fouls the third.

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Speaker 3: Can I Horford be healthy, He's come He's thirty nine

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Speaker 3: years old coming off a calf strain. Yeah, those those

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Speaker 3: played like the most minutes he's ever played in his

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Speaker 3: life over the past two months, and he's become so

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Speaker 3: important to them. He's out again tonight. It's just a

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Speaker 3: matter of who's gonna be out there with Steph when

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Speaker 3: when you think about what kind of chances they might

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Speaker 3: have in a playoff series, did you what.

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Speaker 2: Did you think of the closing line up, the small

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Speaker 4: Because I really liked that line up. I think it

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Speaker 2: Steph Melton and Draymond, and that was kind of just

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Speaker 2: I mean, really that's what they have available to go

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Speaker 4: But I thought it looked pretty good. What did you

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Speaker 3: Those are their best five players in that particular game.

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Speaker 3: Another different set of best five players that they could

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Speaker 3: have fully healthy would not be small. It would be sure, Draymond,

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Speaker 3: Horford and Porzingis. It's a look we saw a little

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Speaker 3: those three bigs, and that's something that we haven't seen

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Speaker 3: the Warriors do kind of ever. But Steph and the

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Speaker 3: way he bends defenses kind of unlocks a lot of possibilities.

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Speaker 3: He kind of breaks every kind of rule that you

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Speaker 5: At the same time, I'm talking to Danny Eferman live

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Speaker 5: from Harmonic Brewing outside at Chase Center. Oh, you mentioned

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Speaker 5: Kristaps Porzingis, and I think initially when that trade went

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Speaker 5: But since that time, he's been better. But what do

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Speaker 5: you think about him right now in his future with

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Speaker 5: the Warriors.

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Speaker 3: It's a great question. I'm glad you asked. I wrote

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Speaker 3: about this a few weeks ago for the s F

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Speaker 3: to hit the open market, he's on an expiring thirty

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Speaker 3: million dollar year. He has been effective when he's healthy,

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Speaker 3: but he can wake up one morning and feel sick

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Speaker 3: and then you might not see him for a week.

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Speaker 3: He's had a ton of injury issues that makes his

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Speaker 3: probably wouldn't give him more than two years. Maybe you could.

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Speaker 3: You could format it maybe similar design on Williamson's deal

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Speaker 3: where you have a lot of non guarantees in there.

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Speaker 3: And in addition to that, I made an app that

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Speaker 3: would predict NBA contracts and I think the app I

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Speaker 3: named it Christops after him. I think it spit out

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Speaker 3: two years, eighteen and a half million for him, So

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Speaker 3: it would be somewhere in that range in terms of

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Speaker 3: maybe two years, maybe two plus a team option, and

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Speaker 3: you're looking at around ten million a year for him.

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Speaker 3: That would be my educated guest, given my reporting and

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Speaker 3: then my kind of passion project on the side.

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Speaker 2: Nice, you created an app that will tell you what

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Speaker 3: Based on recent statistics, recent injury history, league trends, and

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Speaker 4: Oh I love that.

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Speaker 1: Nice.

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Speaker 2: Wow, So how many players have you pluged into this thing?

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Speaker 2: And like how is it has it given you?

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Speaker 4: Did you have this last summer? Is his brand new?

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Speaker 4: You need to do to sort of counteract that. Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think it's more of a thought exercise than everything

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Speaker 2: A superstar, where the name means something is intangible and

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Speaker 3: Yes, so it's an imperfect science, but it's a fun

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Speaker 4: Yeah, very cool man.

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Speaker 2: You work on that, dude. I love I'd love to

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Speaker 3: You can find on SF standard dot com.

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Speaker 2: SEF standard dot com the Danny Erraman Chris Stops contracts.

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Speaker 4: I like that, dude.

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Speaker 5: I like that should apayly to everybody like so then

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Speaker 4: Can you apply this to everybody?

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Speaker 3: I could make different ones for others.

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Speaker 2: If I had this before I worked out my new

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Speaker 4: If I see what he's valuing met I had the

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Speaker 4: Yeah? He's like, what's my value right now?

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Speaker 3: Dude?

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Speaker 4: Huh? That's all I'm getting I'm worth.

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Speaker 2: What does it say about Draymond if you were to

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Speaker 4: Kind of where I'm at.

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Speaker 4: If you sided one more, I mean, that's.

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Speaker 5: Got to be a plus for him, right, No, definitely,

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Speaker 4: You think any of those names are feasible?

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Speaker 5: Do you think the Warriors are gonna be left thinking

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Speaker 4: To make this team better for next season.

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Speaker 3: I think they're going to look anywhere they can around

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Speaker 3: I think before thinking about big names, I think the

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Speaker 4: And as far as Steve Kerr, you know.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't say that's an assumption, okay, because I don't

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Speaker 3: Nick wants was best for his dad, and he hopes

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Speaker 3: Steve's gonna be the coach.

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Speaker 2: Dan Ammerman covers the Warriors for the SF Standard. Where

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Speaker 2: can we you said, it's just on the SF Standards

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Speaker 2: Skeball page.

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Speaker 3: We can find the that's right, yep, that'sf Standard dot com.

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Speaker 3: And we just got an app this week for subscribers only.

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Speaker 4: Good deal.

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Speaker 3: Find that on the app store.

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Speaker 2: Hell yea check out subscribers only and you should subscribe.

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Speaker 2: This Substandard's got a lot of really good stuff. Tim

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Speaker 2: tim Kalla commedist and Bridge stuff as this, Danny and

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Speaker 2: Kerry Crowley and John Jay over on the baseball side,

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Speaker 2: a lot of great stuff at the Standard.

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Speaker 4: Danny always appreciate the.

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Speaker 3: Time, Bro, Thanks guys.

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Speaker 2: Great to see you Man, Good to see you, Poppy.

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Speaker 2: We got plenty more to come here. Dirty work rolls

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