WEBVTT - A Human Sized Bird Cage

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the

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<v Speaker 1>George Washington Broadcast Center.

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<v Speaker 2>Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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<v Speaker 3>Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 4>And now, here's Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys see this? France has accused Iran of being

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<v Speaker 3>behind cyber attacks that affected supermarket fridges and freezers.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, when they heard McDonald's was like, yeah, and Iran

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<v Speaker 4>definitely broke our ice cream machines, too. Oh, the unreliable

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<v Speaker 4>ice cream machines of McDonald's.

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<v Speaker 3>So this has been a mystery for the world for

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of weeks now. Who is hacking into refrigerators

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<v Speaker 3>in Europe?

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<v Speaker 4>There are more and more indications that the obvious answer

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<v Speaker 4>is the correct one. It was Russia. Sending the message

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<v Speaker 4>that you keep backing Ukraine, we are going to hurt

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<v Speaker 4>you and we can hurt you in all sorts of

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<v Speaker 4>different ways.

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<v Speaker 3>You want spoiled yogurt? You want spoiled yogurt?

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<v Speaker 4>Turning freezers up to 120 degrees, which is, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>halfway to an oven. Just keep going and we'll eat

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<v Speaker 4>this stuff now. Yeah, and the whole... vulnerability of everything

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<v Speaker 4>because it's all connected to the internet i for the

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<v Speaker 4>convenience of i'm the grocery store manager i get an

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<v Speaker 4>alert hey that freezer just went down i don't find

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<v Speaker 4>out when i get in in the morning and all

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<v Speaker 4>the zillion dollars of meat spoiled i find out immediately

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<v Speaker 4>i can deal with it i get it but man

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<v Speaker 4>is it vulnerable i'm so a.

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<v Speaker 3>Little confused by the you don't take credit for it

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<v Speaker 3>but you clearly hope that people figure out it's you

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<v Speaker 3>or assume it's you So you accomplish what you tried

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<v Speaker 3>to accomplish with basically terrorism.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I've got to admit, I'm still mystified by the

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<v Speaker 4>whole everybody knows it, but you deny it. And that's

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<v Speaker 4>good enough to not have. I don't know what the

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<v Speaker 4>United Nations weigh in with sanctions or the US to

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<v Speaker 4>go crazy or what I just. If you know it's them,

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<v Speaker 4>you know it's them. I don't understand why plausible deny

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<v Speaker 4>or implausible deniability still works at all.

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<v Speaker 3>If Russia announced it, that would be– then you have

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<v Speaker 3>to respond to it because they've committed an act of war.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>That's part of it. So as kind of a sidelight

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<v Speaker 4>to this piece I was reading, I thought this was

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<v Speaker 4>super interesting. Then we can get to– Weak acts, children,

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<v Speaker 4>and honyucks elected office in the recent blue tsunami.

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<v Speaker 3>Did a dog get elected anywhere? I love it when

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<v Speaker 3>dogs get elected.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure one did. I'm not familiar with it. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't have a dog for you. Well, I've got a

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<v Speaker 4>different dog for you, the one that saved the baby, maybe. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>so as part of this piece, and I thought this

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<v Speaker 4>was so interesting, during the Cold War, European countries actively

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<v Speaker 4>prepared for war with the Soviet Union. Not only by

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<v Speaker 4>maintaining sizable militaries until they got fat, lazy and socialist

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<v Speaker 4>in the, you know, especially in the 70s, 80s, 90s,

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<v Speaker 4>mostly 80s, 90s.

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<v Speaker 3>But anyway, with us as their enabler.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, exactly. Yeah. But they also ensured that civil society

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<v Speaker 4>could continue to function during the war. And they use

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<v Speaker 4>Sweden as the example. And I found this really interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>Sweden stored years worth of oil in massive secret rock caverns,

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<v Speaker 4>for instance. They were so sure there would be war

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<v Speaker 4>with the Soviets. Medicine, food, and other necessities were also stockpiled.

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<v Speaker 4>Sweden had mandatory conscription for all men, a year of

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<v Speaker 4>service for all 18-year-olds, which included extensive training in guerrilla

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<v Speaker 4>warfare to ensure that resistance could continue if and when

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<v Speaker 4>Stockholm fell. I wouldn't be 100% comfortable at this point

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<v Speaker 4>in our nation's history giving hundreds of thousands of 18-year-olds

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<v Speaker 4>guerrilla warfare training. Of course, it's worth pointing out Sweden

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<v Speaker 4>at the time especially was incredibly homogenous in terms of ethnicity, language, religion,

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<v Speaker 4>the rest of it. They were all one people. They

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<v Speaker 4>were a nation state, as we say in political science.

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<v Speaker 3>Your concern is if we gave our young people guerrilla

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<v Speaker 3>warfare training, they would turn on Tesla or their college campus.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, or God knows what else. Right, yeah, depending on

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<v Speaker 4>what wackadoodled philosophy they'd fallen under the sway of. Moreover,

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<v Speaker 4>everyone between the ages of 16 and 70, male and female,

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<v Speaker 4>had a total defense duty. I'm sure the Swedish phrase

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<v Speaker 4>is charming, but women and those who had not served

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<v Speaker 4>in the military were pre-assigned to other roles, which they

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<v Speaker 4>were to assume immediately if mobilization were declared. Report to

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<v Speaker 4>the nearest hospital, if that was your job. Collect the

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<v Speaker 4>keys to the local bomb shelter. Turn up at the

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<v Speaker 4>munitions factory. the very moment jet fighters took off from

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<v Speaker 4>the other side of the Baltic Sea, every Swede would

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<v Speaker 4>know exactly where to go, what to do, and what

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<v Speaker 4>their individual role in the defense of the country was.

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<v Speaker 3>So part of that has got to be... How amazing

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<v Speaker 3>is that? These are all people that have living memory

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<v Speaker 3>of big countries going to war with each other. Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>And so it seems like a reality. It was a

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<v Speaker 3>reality for them as kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>war as an adult. And now, I think, for whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 3>I feel this a little bit myself even. You can't

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<v Speaker 3>imagine actually going to war with China or Russia.

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<v Speaker 4>It'll never happen. Please, we're all too satisfied and rich

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<v Speaker 4>and safe. Yeah, you're exactly right. One more note. Some

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<v Speaker 4>civilians were even trained as special stay-behind forces tasked with

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<v Speaker 4>carrying out sabotage missions behind enemy lines. So, look, you're

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<v Speaker 4>going to go to the food warehouse and you're just

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<v Speaker 4>a food distribution guy. Okay. Except we're giving you the

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<v Speaker 4>special training and you're actually a demolition gorilla for when

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<v Speaker 4>the Soviets occupy us. Cause we will never stop fighting.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you see the story over the weekend? So somebody

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<v Speaker 3>was able to hack into Russia's government computers and get

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<v Speaker 3>accurate statistics on, uh, all kinds of stuff around the war.

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<v Speaker 3>So the worst, the worst coming up on five years

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<v Speaker 3>in February, five years, I am terrible at guessing how

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<v Speaker 3>long a war will last. Whenever they start, I think

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<v Speaker 3>the one with us and Iran, I always think, well,

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<v Speaker 3>it can't last. When people talk about this could still

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<v Speaker 3>be going on in the midterms. I thought there's no

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<v Speaker 3>way this is still going on at the midterms. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>now there's no reason to think it's going to be

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<v Speaker 3>over a year from now. Um, And the Ukraine-Russia war,

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<v Speaker 3>if you'd have told me five years, I thought, no

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<v Speaker 3>flipping way. Anyway, Russia had their worst weekend, their worst

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<v Speaker 3>day of the entire war Sunday. They lost 3,000 guys killed, wounded,

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<v Speaker 3>or missing. 3,000 on a day! Man, there aren't many

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<v Speaker 3>countries that have the appetite for that, but they are

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<v Speaker 3>now at, and a lot of people think it's a

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<v Speaker 3>higher number than this, but it's at least a half

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<v Speaker 3>a million.

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<v Speaker 4>Dead.

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<v Speaker 5>Dead.

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<v Speaker 3>A half a million dead.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Ten times, well, not quite ten times our losses in Vietnam.

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<v Speaker 3>Approaching our losses in all of World War II. And

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<v Speaker 3>by next year, if this continues, they'll reach our deadliest war,

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<v Speaker 3>which was the Civil War, because everybody that died was

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<v Speaker 3>an American on both sides, which was about 600,000. They'll

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<v Speaker 3>have lost as many men in this stupid project that's

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<v Speaker 3>going to accomplish nothing for them that's of any use whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 3>The same amount of men. It's just what a meat

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<v Speaker 3>grinder is not an exaggeration.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, right. And at the risk of getting off on

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<v Speaker 4>that tangent and getting back to the Swedes and their

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<v Speaker 4>vow to fight forever, yeah, the Ukrainians are going to think,

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<v Speaker 4>all right, you abducted our kids. You slaughtered us for

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<v Speaker 4>very little reason. You gained a little ground as a

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<v Speaker 4>meat grinder. Well, you occupy this part of the Donbass.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's live and let live for the next couple of generations.

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<v Speaker 4>You're a fool if you think that. It's going to

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<v Speaker 4>be a drain on Russian finances until long after I'm

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<v Speaker 4>in probably hell with Trump. But you see my point.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to find out. I hope it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>happen in my lifetime. But I don't know what project

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<v Speaker 3>in the world the U.S. public would accept 3,000 dead, wounded,

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<v Speaker 3>or missing in one day. Defending Taiwan... pushing back against Russia.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think there is one.

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<v Speaker 4>Just to repel an invasion.

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<v Speaker 3>It would have to be actually invading our country before

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<v Speaker 3>we would accept those kind of losses and not say no.

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<v Speaker 4>Which is why you never turn your back on a Canadian.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I say. Oh, so the point of this

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<v Speaker 4>article was that it's a compare and contrast back in

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<v Speaker 4>the day how tough and ready a lot of Europe was,

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<v Speaker 4>including Sweden most notably, and how they're all now like, what?

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<v Speaker 4>What do we do? Take our freezers off the internet?

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<v Speaker 5>Really?

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<v Speaker 4>We got to do that?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, boy.

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<v Speaker 3>We probably ought to take a break and then get

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<v Speaker 3>into that whole weirdos and losers that are coming into

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<v Speaker 3>the next Congress. But what is that saying you always have?

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<v Speaker 3>Because it's so good and it's what's going on clearly

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<v Speaker 3>in Sweden and lots of places. The good times lead

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<v Speaker 3>to weak people. Well, tough times make for tough men.

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<v Speaker 3>Tough men make for prosperous times. Prosperous times make for

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<v Speaker 3>soft people. And then soft people make for tough times.

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<v Speaker 3>And you start the cycle again. I don't think there's

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<v Speaker 3>any avoiding it. I think it can be delayed, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think you owe it to your children and yourself

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<v Speaker 3>and your grandchildren to delay it if you can. But

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<v Speaker 3>human nature is unchanging, and that's been true over and

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<v Speaker 3>over and over again. Look at some of the great

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<v Speaker 3>civilizations of old.

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<v Speaker 4>There are a bunch of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, sure.

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<v Speaker 3>They lasted for way longer than the American Empire. That's

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<v Speaker 3>the whole plot of Finnegan's Wake, which I've been trying

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<v Speaker 3>to read. And that's why the last sentence cuts off

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<v Speaker 3>and the book begins with the picking up of the

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<v Speaker 3>last sentence of the book. It's just a cycle that

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<v Speaker 3>this cycle that you just described just keeps going over

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<v Speaker 3>and over and over with every civilization throughout history. And

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<v Speaker 3>there's no breaking it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just the way it is. That's art, dude. Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>that reminds me. I teased this yesterday and we never

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<v Speaker 4>got to it. A 2,400-year-old explanation for why character matters. Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>In politics right now.

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<v Speaker 3>There you go.

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<v Speaker 4>That's good stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>On the way.

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<v Speaker 4>Stay here.

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<v Speaker 5>Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 2>The Armstrong and Getty Show.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen to this headline from the L.A.

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<v Speaker 2>Times.

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<v Speaker 3>Stanford scientist after decades of study concludes we don't have

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<v Speaker 3>free will. Maybe we'll talk about that later.

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<v Speaker 4>All right. We'll be back in L.A. in just a second.

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<v Speaker 4>So a lot of interesting results from the elections, obviously,

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<v Speaker 4>including the number of DSA candidates that were elected mayors

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<v Speaker 4>of various cities. More than most people are talking about.

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<v Speaker 4>Keeping in mind, and I've got the DSA's platform right

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<v Speaker 4>in front of me, they want to empty the prisons,

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<v Speaker 4>open the borders.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't even need to go past the first one.

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<v Speaker 4>The first one is insane. I'm working up to it.

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<v Speaker 4>The one you just said. Oh, that first one.

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<v Speaker 3>Empty the prisons. That's insanity. You can't support a party

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<v Speaker 3>that believes that. That's nuts.

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<v Speaker 4>I was working up to the really good ones. So

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<v Speaker 4>that and to.

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<v Speaker 4>Dramatically cut defense spending, enclose all overseas U.S. military bases,

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<v Speaker 4>and discard the Constitution. They want to get rid of

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<v Speaker 4>the bicameral Congress and replace the presidency and Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 4>with just tools of Congress. Teach dogs to ride bicycles

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<v Speaker 4>and fish to read. Go ahead. So they want to

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<v Speaker 4>get rid of the Constitution. Here's what to know. Nithya

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<v Speaker 4>Raman won the mayoral race in L.A. last Thursday. Joining

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<v Speaker 4>the ranks, Democratic Socialists. New York City got Zoran Mamdani.

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<v Speaker 4>In L.A., Seattle, Mayor Katie Wilson, the woman child who's

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<v Speaker 4>never really held a job and has gotten slapped in

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<v Speaker 4>the face by reality. In Washington, D.C., Janice Lewis George,

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<v Speaker 4>District Council member who was a member of the DSA,

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<v Speaker 4>was elected mayor on Tuesday. You probably didn't hear that.

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<v Speaker 4>Rhode Island, Providence, Rhode Island. David Morales, state lawmaker and

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<v Speaker 4>former professional wrestler. who's also a DSA member, was elected

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<v Speaker 4>mayor on Tuesday, easily defeated his Republican opponent after running

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<v Speaker 4>on a campaign focusing on capping rent hikes, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 4>et cetera. So there you go, America. So on to

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<v Speaker 4>the question of these various districts and races where the

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<v Speaker 4>Democratic Party just they hadn't won in so long. Somebody

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<v Speaker 4>would come along like Sebastian Matta, 19 years old, and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>county clerk for Maricopa County. That's Phoenix. That's the biggest

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<v Speaker 4>county in Arizona. I want to run for that. And

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<v Speaker 4>the Democratic Party is like, go ahead. Knock yourself out.

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<v Speaker 4>We haven't won that race since your granny was skipping

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<v Speaker 4>rope on the playground. All right. Do whatever you want. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>this child has won. He's 19. He's got a 3.25

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<v Speaker 4>grade point average, which given grade inflation lately is not great.

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<v Speaker 4>But so he now has. I think 600, more than

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<v Speaker 4>600 employees.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>He'll oversee an office with a $ 65 million budget that

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<v Speaker 4>processes nearly 15,000 documents and half a million dollars every day.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm guessing he's got not the slightest idea where

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<v Speaker 3>to even start.

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<v Speaker 4>No, he's an odd kid. He wears a suit to

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<v Speaker 4>class most days. He has a background in high school

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<v Speaker 4>theater and debate, speaks with a political polish beyond his years,

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<v Speaker 4>often wears a suit to class. Theater kid.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, God.

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<v Speaker 4>Run for your lives. Anyway, so that's him. Then I

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<v Speaker 4>like this one. This is my favorite. North Carolina's 14th district.

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<v Speaker 4>You got to focus in here. You see that green triangle?

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<v Speaker 4>That's the triangle of greenness. It's super red-leaning. It's sent

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<v Speaker 4>Republicans time after time. But in the whatever the hell

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<v Speaker 4>happened last week. It went Democrat and the Democratic Party's like,

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<v Speaker 4>did we run somebody in the 14th? Who was it? Well,

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<v Speaker 4>it was Lakeisha Womack who headed not to Congress, but

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<v Speaker 4>to court first. She's set to appear on felony charges

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<v Speaker 4>for failing to return a rental car. She was served

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<v Speaker 4>a felony summons three weeks before Election Day, according to

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<v Speaker 4>court records reviewed by the Free Beacon, which blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

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<v Speaker 3>You held on to your rental car so long you

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<v Speaker 3>might go to prison.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, exactly. And the budget rental car location in Charlotte said,

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<v Speaker 4>we've been calling her and calling her. Attempts to locate

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<v Speaker 4>the suspect have been unsuccessful. It's a felony in North Carolina. Blah, blah, blah.

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<v Speaker 4>This happened a little while back.

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<v Speaker 3>Because at some point you've stolen a car.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, right. Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>That's pretty funny.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, Axios noted two days before the election that

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<v Speaker 4>she was poised to defeat her opponent. Didn't mention the

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<v Speaker 4>felony charges against her. Rather, the news outlet indicated that

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<v Speaker 4>Womack is a minister and consultant who has experienced home insecurity. Finally,

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<v Speaker 4>one more real quick. A guy in Iowa suspended his

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<v Speaker 4>campaign because he had terrible health problems months ago. He

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<v Speaker 4>quit the race and he got elected.

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<v Speaker 3>This happens in these wave elections. It happened with Republicans

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<v Speaker 3>during the Tea Party thing. I need to, next time

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<v Speaker 3>it looks like there might be a wave election, go

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<v Speaker 3>ahead and register for some various posts in case there's

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<v Speaker 3>a wave, and then get in there.

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<v Speaker 4>And then do fun stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>And then do what? I don't know. Enjoy the benefits.

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<v Speaker 4>Bilk the taxpayers out of whatever you can get and

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<v Speaker 4>then head for the hills. Certainly what I would do. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Thousands of years of wisdom on why character matters in politics.

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<v Speaker 4>You've got that and a lot more coming up. Stay

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<v Speaker 5>Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 2>The Armstrong and Getty Show.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got a red alert. We go to halftime in Charlotte,

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<v Speaker 3>North Carolina. Halftime entertainment, a corgi race, and a corgi.

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<v Speaker 4>Is loose, and the handlers can't handle him.

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<v Speaker 3>The second half is supposed to be kicking off. They

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<v Speaker 3>can't get him at the 40. They can't get him

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<v Speaker 3>at the 45. He's at midfield. The corgi is loose.

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<v Speaker 3>He's checking to his left, to his right. He's looking

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<v Speaker 3>at himself on the big video board, and finally they

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<v Speaker 3>tackle him, but not until about a 100-yard gain. And

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<v Speaker 3>the crowd really enjoyed that. And we've been saying for years,

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<v Speaker 3>rather than have a big halftime show that pleases practically

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<v Speaker 3>nobody with some musical guest or whatever, why don't you

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<v Speaker 3>have dogs catching Frisbees or wiener dogs racing or something

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<v Speaker 3>like that? Everybody would love that.

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<v Speaker 4>Have a couple of people in the inflatable sumo outfits

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<v Speaker 4>going at each other. Something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Do the thing where you put a bunch of two-year-olds

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<v Speaker 3>in a starting line and see which one happens to

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<v Speaker 3>crawl the right direction the furthest to win a prize.

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<v Speaker 4>I would watch that. Heck yeah!

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<v Speaker 2>Jay-Z? No.

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<v Speaker 4>But whoever, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know. When I was at an NBA game recently,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the dancing girls come out, and I just,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't, is there anybody that really enjoys that?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>But when they would have some.

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<v Speaker 3>Doughy Dope come out there and try to make, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>a half-court shot for a car or something. Yeah, everybody's

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<v Speaker 3>into it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that is funny, the preconceptions. Anyway, I want that

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<v Speaker 4>Corgi checked for steroids. That was clear Corgi rage. Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>that reminds me, I've mentioned this a couple of times,

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<v Speaker 4>and Katie, I don't know if you're available, you'll find

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<v Speaker 4>this interesting. Here's this gal who's got a five-month-old and

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<v Speaker 4>her dog is was whining and pacing nervously around the kid,

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<v Speaker 4>licking the baby's face and just becoming more and more distressed.

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<v Speaker 4>And mom and grandma are like, what's up with the dog?

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<v Speaker 4>And just thought it was odd. And then later that day,

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<v Speaker 4>the child started screaming and crying, and they finally brought

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<v Speaker 4>him into the emergency care. Turns out the baby's heart

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<v Speaker 4>rate was dangerously high, well over 200 beats per minute.

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<v Speaker 3>Whoa.

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<v Speaker 4>Whoa. And the dog could sense something was wrong. Nobody's

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<v Speaker 4>quite sure what the mechanism. Oh, I know. I love

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<v Speaker 4>dogs so much. No, honey, I'm not going to get

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<v Speaker 4>another one. Don't worry if you're listening. But yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 4>quite amazing. These stories, I mean, whether it's cancer or

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<v Speaker 4>diabetes or. Now that's nailed down, right? That they can

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<v Speaker 4>smell cancer in a way that. Yeah. Impending seizures, low

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<v Speaker 4>blood sugar, heart arrhythmias.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe it's the adrenaline. They believe that the dogs pick

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<v Speaker 4>up on the odors emanating from our breath and our sweat,

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<v Speaker 4>as far as they can tell. And after thousands of

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<v Speaker 4>years of dogs becoming acclimated to humans and their closeness

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<v Speaker 4>to humans being their survival mechanism, they've become incredibly adept

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<v Speaker 4>at being in tune with us, which is so cool.

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<v Speaker 4>It is so cool. God, I love dogs.

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<v Speaker 3>On the other hand, If you, like, get drunk, fall

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<v Speaker 3>down the stairs, crack your head and die, after a

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<v Speaker 3>couple days, they will eat you.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, what are you going to do? Let you go

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<v Speaker 4>to waste? I'll let meat?

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<v Speaker 3>They'll eat your face off. Oh, yeah, I don't mind that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, you know, what are they supposed to do exactly?

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<v Speaker 3>You can't. You're not feeding them.

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<v Speaker 4>Right. You got a couple of dogs. Back when I

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<v Speaker 4>had Onyx and Ace, they'd have said to each other,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, he was a damn fine fella. Remember when

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<v Speaker 4>we helped him out with that hearty rhythm of your thing?

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<v Speaker 4>I was really proud of myself that day. Yep, good times. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>let's eat him. Yeah. And who can blame him? Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a little less sophisticated, but there are times when

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<v Speaker 6>Van or my son will get fussy and Frank will

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<v Speaker 6>get right up next to me and paw.

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<v Speaker 4>At me and let me know. Frank's the dog, not

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<v Speaker 4>the husband, by the way, for new listeners.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Frank the dog, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm sorry, he will get up. I always forget.

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<v Speaker 4>right up next to you and.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah he'll he'll come and he'll he'll get my attention

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<v Speaker 6>whether it's by jumping up on his back legs and

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<v Speaker 6>pawing at me with his front paws he'll he's done

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<v Speaker 6>that a couple of times like excuse me my baby.

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<v Speaker 4>Is crying yeah yeah that's amazing yeah amazing you know

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<v Speaker 4>he's a good boy he's a good boy according to

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<v Speaker 4>my observations all right so i mentioned this and i

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<v Speaker 4>just wanted to get to this uh at least semi-briefly

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<v Speaker 4>human nature doesn't change And character matters. And I think

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<v Speaker 4>this might be a good explanation for it. We've talked

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<v Speaker 4>about this in terms of politics. I mean, Trump's the

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<v Speaker 4>obvious example. You know, married multiple times, affairs, cheating on

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<v Speaker 4>his wife, blah, blah, blah. Some questionable business practices. Among

0:23:27.790 --> 0:23:32.870
<v Speaker 4>other examples. And I could have a coughing fit. Trump water.

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<v Speaker 4>Trump University.

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<v Speaker 3>Trump watches. Trump coin.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump phones.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, boy. I forgot that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyway. The Bible!

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<v Speaker 3>The Trump Bible, you're right.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, my God.

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<v Speaker 3>The Bible! There's a Trump Bible.

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<v Speaker 4>So this bloke, Spencer Clavin, he is reading an ancient

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<v Speaker 4>Greek comedy, Aristophanes' Clouds.

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<v Speaker 3>This isn't like Diogenes, is it? Different sort of guy?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I remember old Diogenes from the other day. Had

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<v Speaker 4>some curious habits.

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<v Speaker 3>Doesn't live in a barrel and yank it in public,

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<v Speaker 3>does he? Like Diogenes did.

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<v Speaker 4>Look it up. And just poops whenever he feels like it,

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<v Speaker 4>wherever he feels like it. Aristophanes, totally different guy. Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>This play Clouds was first produced in, you got to

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<v Speaker 4>help me out here, the late 5th century BCE. All right,

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<v Speaker 4>which one is that now? Because you can't say before

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<v Speaker 4>Christ or after Christ. And I know the Latin is

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<v Speaker 4>a little different.

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<v Speaker 3>That's before the year zero because CE is what they

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<v Speaker 3>call now after.

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<v Speaker 4>So this is the fifth century before Jesus.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, Katie.

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<v Speaker 3>Before Common Era.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly. Ah, the Common Era.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>The era we all know so well.

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<v Speaker 3>Godless communists.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyway, so Athens was just beginning to lose its grip

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<v Speaker 4>on their sprawling naval empire. They'd beat the hell out

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<v Speaker 4>of Persia a generation before, and like America after the

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<v Speaker 4>world wars, Athens emerged from the Persian wars world leader,

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<v Speaker 4>freshly minted world leader, flushed with cultural and political confidence,

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<v Speaker 4>just as America's post-war energies largely dissipated into partisan infighting

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<v Speaker 4>and foolhardy military expeditions. That's an opinion, but... Athens found

0:25:30.859 --> 0:25:34.500
<v Speaker 4>its golden age glow quickly fading as chronic overreach brought

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<v Speaker 4>it into conflict with its rival Sparta in the disastrous

0:25:38.230 --> 0:25:41.930
<v Speaker 4>Peloponnesian War. Jack, any thoughts on the Peloponnesian War?

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<v Speaker 3>Read Victor David Hansen's book about that. It's fantastic.

0:25:46.210 --> 0:25:49.620
<v Speaker 4>VDH is fabulous on that. Absolutely fabulous. He actually broke

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<v Speaker 4>down the midterms lately. We never got to it, but

0:25:51.640 --> 0:25:55.520
<v Speaker 4>it was in VDH fashion. Very practical and very smart. Anyway,

0:25:58.520 --> 0:26:06.609
<v Speaker 4>this writer... is crediting corruption among the MAGA crowd as

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<v Speaker 4>a big, big factor in the election. 90% of people said, yeah,

0:26:11.890 --> 0:26:16.060
<v Speaker 4>government corruption is something I'm really worried about. 90%. On

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<v Speaker 4>the other hand, I think it probably cuts both ways.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that one really snuck up on me. The corruption

0:26:22.340 --> 0:26:25.980
<v Speaker 3>leaping to the top or near the top of people's

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<v Speaker 3>concerns for the election. And Part of it is just

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<v Speaker 3>my anecdotal. I don't really have people bringing that up.

0:26:36.580 --> 0:26:39.060
<v Speaker 3>But people must be, like, feeling it and not talking

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<v Speaker 3>about it a lot or something. I don't know. Like,

0:26:43.050 --> 0:26:48.710
<v Speaker 3>you're Trumpy. Maybe you supported him all three times. You

0:26:48.730 --> 0:26:52.070
<v Speaker 3>preferred him to the alternative. But you really don't dig

0:26:52.150 --> 0:26:53.790
<v Speaker 3>some of the stuff. I mean, what are you doing

0:26:53.830 --> 0:26:55.130
<v Speaker 3>with the crypto and the phones?

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<v Speaker 4>Come on. Right, and it wasn't a big topic of conversation,

0:26:58.410 --> 0:27:01.010
<v Speaker 4>but I think all of us were seeing it. Then

0:27:01.369 --> 0:27:03.609
<v Speaker 4>you go with all the Congress people on both sides

0:27:03.650 --> 0:27:08.230
<v Speaker 4>getting rich during their time in Washington, D.C., and the

0:27:08.330 --> 0:27:11.210
<v Speaker 4>revolving door between the lobbyists and the departments, then back

0:27:11.250 --> 0:27:13.970
<v Speaker 4>to the lobbyists, and the unions are utterly corrupt. I mean,

0:27:14.340 --> 0:27:16.760
<v Speaker 4>for instance, California, where the show's based, the state government

0:27:17.040 --> 0:27:20.240
<v Speaker 4>is utterly corrupt in that way. It's more and more egregious.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you happen to see.

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<v Speaker 3>Stuff that was edited out of the 60 Minutes interview.

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<v Speaker 4>I haven't watched that.

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<v Speaker 3>Do that did with Trump. Man, I was I meant

0:27:36.080 --> 0:27:37.980
<v Speaker 3>to do a deep dive on that last night and

0:27:38.000 --> 0:27:40.590
<v Speaker 3>figure out if that was real. It was real. I mean,

0:27:40.619 --> 0:27:41.460
<v Speaker 3>I'm a Barry White.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you mean if it was real?

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<v Speaker 3>If it wasn't AI or something. I mean, they made

0:27:47.990 --> 0:27:48.510
<v Speaker 3>stuff up.

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<v Speaker 4>This is an allegation and we'll get back to clouds

0:27:51.310 --> 0:27:51.630
<v Speaker 4>in a minute.

0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:54.580
<v Speaker 3>Do I think who made some stuff up? The person

0:27:54.600 --> 0:27:57.100
<v Speaker 3>that posted, here's the stuff that was edited out of

0:27:57.100 --> 0:27:59.020
<v Speaker 3>60 Minutes. I don't know who these people are who

0:27:59.040 --> 0:27:59.820
<v Speaker 3>are posting this stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, because 60minutes. com had the entire interview.

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<v Speaker 3>No, this is different. This is different than that. There's

0:28:05.980 --> 0:28:07.740
<v Speaker 3>60 Minutes. You can watch the interview, and then they

0:28:07.760 --> 0:28:09.810
<v Speaker 3>have the extra time thing on 60 Minutes. Like, if

0:28:09.830 --> 0:28:12.490
<v Speaker 3>they ever do a story you like... You know, they

0:28:12.570 --> 0:28:15.030
<v Speaker 3>edited it for time and there's more at the 60

0:28:15.030 --> 0:28:17.210
<v Speaker 3>minutes extra that's often really, really good. So there's that.

0:28:17.650 --> 0:28:20.540
<v Speaker 3>But then I was watching a couple of different places

0:28:20.580 --> 0:28:23.100
<v Speaker 3>where they posted stuff last night. It sure looked real

0:28:24.200 --> 0:28:26.920
<v Speaker 3>that they took a lot of Trump's answers. And because

0:28:26.960 --> 0:28:28.980
<v Speaker 3>he's so all over the place and rambles and stuff,

0:28:29.380 --> 0:28:31.540
<v Speaker 3>it got edited down to try to like to the

0:28:31.680 --> 0:28:34.020
<v Speaker 3>essence of it. But in some cases, some of the

0:28:34.060 --> 0:28:37.399
<v Speaker 3>stuff that they left out would like have been really

0:28:37.480 --> 0:28:41.000
<v Speaker 3>damaging to Trump. And it'd be very easy to make

0:28:41.040 --> 0:28:43.100
<v Speaker 3>the argument that they had to do that out to

0:28:43.160 --> 0:28:46.540
<v Speaker 3>make him look better or not as bad. The versions

0:28:46.580 --> 0:28:48.160
<v Speaker 3>that I saw, and I'd like to know if they

0:28:48.180 --> 0:28:49.820
<v Speaker 3>were real or not. They sure looked real. Looked like

0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:51.600
<v Speaker 3>it'd been really hard to do that with AI.

0:28:52.080 --> 0:28:54.140
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that doesn't mean anything to me.

0:28:54.220 --> 0:28:54.620
<v Speaker 2>Sorry.

0:28:55.140 --> 0:28:58.220
<v Speaker 4>I've seen stuff so realistic. It was stunning. Right.

0:28:58.420 --> 0:29:00.790
<v Speaker 3>Just like in the last 48 hours. Like the Jensen

0:29:00.870 --> 0:29:04.990
<v Speaker 3>Wong and his girlfriend from the movie. You will see everything.

0:29:05.050 --> 0:29:07.150
<v Speaker 3>I mean, that is very realistic.

0:29:07.630 --> 0:29:07.870
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:29:08.030 --> 0:29:08.190
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:29:08.550 --> 0:29:10.970
<v Speaker 4>Anyway, we'll never get in this analysis of this play

0:29:11.010 --> 0:29:13.070
<v Speaker 4>if we don't get back to it. So anyway, the

0:29:13.090 --> 0:29:19.510
<v Speaker 4>play is Clouds, the Peloponnesian War, etc. So Clouds' playwright, Aristophanes,

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<v Speaker 4>had a longstanding feud with various Athenian political leaders, especially

0:29:23.290 --> 0:29:26.940
<v Speaker 4>this guy Cleon, who was a general in the Peloponnesian War,

0:29:27.300 --> 0:29:30.420
<v Speaker 4>and he was kind of a blustering populist hawk, to

0:29:30.640 --> 0:29:36.370
<v Speaker 4>oversimplify it. But Aristophanes was no revolutionary. He didn't want

0:29:36.390 --> 0:29:38.350
<v Speaker 4>to tear down the system and bring on anarchy, but

0:29:38.710 --> 0:29:42.560
<v Speaker 4>his play bitterly savages Athens' leaders, not because they represent

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<v Speaker 4>law and order, but because, in his view, they misrepresent

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<v Speaker 4>it by thundering about virtue while indulging their own vices.

0:29:50.500 --> 0:29:52.880
<v Speaker 3>Leon likes his money, you could say.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:58.000
<v Speaker 4>Demagogues were frequently accused, for example, of manipulating the courts,

0:29:58.100 --> 0:30:01.650
<v Speaker 4>plundering public resources, extending wartime to avoid accountability for their

0:30:01.670 --> 0:30:07.969
<v Speaker 4>own political incompetence. And the hypocrisy Aristophanes believed gave credibility

0:30:08.050 --> 0:30:12.030
<v Speaker 4>to dangerous radicals when they accused the old guard of corruption.

0:30:12.410 --> 0:30:16.390
<v Speaker 4>And just real briefly, so in this play, which is

0:30:16.490 --> 0:30:19.830
<v Speaker 4>many centuries old, he stages a face-off between two characters

0:30:19.910 --> 0:30:24.960
<v Speaker 4>embodying two ideologies. The right argument... stands for old-fashioned morality,

0:30:25.050 --> 0:30:29.650
<v Speaker 4>common sense, and civic order. Big fan. Well, the wrong

0:30:29.810 --> 0:30:36.209
<v Speaker 4>argument is this moral relativist who openly declares contempt for tradition, normalcy,

0:30:36.310 --> 0:30:40.450
<v Speaker 4>and even truth itself, very much like the radical left today.

0:30:40.470 --> 0:30:42.350
<v Speaker 4>And that's why I got so excited reading about this.

0:30:42.690 --> 0:30:46.050
<v Speaker 4>The critical theory crowd, the woke crowd that denies that

0:30:46.090 --> 0:30:51.240
<v Speaker 4>there's any objective truth. Okay? And so the two of

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<v Speaker 4>them are competing for the attention of the new generation

0:30:56.380 --> 0:31:02.600
<v Speaker 4>in Athens, essentially. And the right argument is right. It's righteous.

0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:09.160
<v Speaker 4>But all of the right argument's characters are fatally undermined

0:31:09.270 --> 0:31:12.650
<v Speaker 4>because they're dishonest frauds.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you hand your opponents such a weapon when you

0:31:15.350 --> 0:31:15.710
<v Speaker 3>do that.

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<v Speaker 4>And in essence... The right arguments are discredited because the

0:31:21.790 --> 0:31:28.930
<v Speaker 4>people representing them are frauds, and the maniacs gain power thereby.

0:31:29.490 --> 0:31:32.010
<v Speaker 4>And so it was, you know, this was a political

0:31:32.030 --> 0:31:34.430
<v Speaker 4>play written at the time. It was a devastating indictment

0:31:34.750 --> 0:31:39.550
<v Speaker 4>of Athens' real-life dignitaries and their hypocrisy.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think this example would work. It's the way

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<v Speaker 3>that when bad religious actors.

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<v Speaker 3>Undermine the whole premise of God and everything like that.

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<v Speaker 3>The teachings of Jesus, yeah. People use that example all

0:31:56.390 --> 0:32:00.030
<v Speaker 3>the time. Well, look at Catholic priests. Okay, that shouldn't.

0:32:00.090 --> 0:32:02.230
<v Speaker 3>Look at Jim and Tammy Baker. Yeah, that shouldn't discount,

0:32:02.250 --> 0:32:02.790
<v Speaker 3>but it does.

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<v Speaker 4>It's got nothing to do with Jesus, yeah. And finally,

0:32:06.450 --> 0:32:09.590
<v Speaker 4>and this calls for an on-air meeting, in devastating indictments

0:32:09.630 --> 0:32:12.860
<v Speaker 4>of Athens real-life dignitaries, the wrong argument points at the

0:32:12.890 --> 0:32:16.000
<v Speaker 4>esteemed personages sitting out in the audience and forces the

0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:20.500
<v Speaker 4>right argument to admit that they are all europroctoids. An

0:32:20.540 --> 0:32:25.370
<v Speaker 4>exceptionally rude Greek term referring to indecency with young boys.

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<v Speaker 3>Speaking of Catholic priests.

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<v Speaker 4>The translation, I think the translation is a bit much.

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<v Speaker 4>Turn off the microphones real quick. Hit your cough button. Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>What do we think of that term?

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<v Speaker 3>It's not something I'd use in front of my mom,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'll give it, I'll give it a thumbs up

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<v Speaker 3>for the air.

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<v Speaker 4>He says, yes, I'm a, essentially made them admit that they're.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you want to vote, Michael? You're voting against it

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<v Speaker 3>because you took the FCC training.

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<v Speaker 4>The term roughly translates to butt slots. Wow. Which is

0:33:11.090 --> 0:33:15.090
<v Speaker 4>an unfortunate term indeed on the air thereby, because the,

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<v Speaker 4>the people chosen to represent goodness and decency are, were

0:33:19.530 --> 0:33:23.750
<v Speaker 4>hypocrites and bad people. Goodness and decency lost the day.

0:33:25.250 --> 0:33:29.830
<v Speaker 4>That's ancient wisdom, baby. Don't be a BS.

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<v Speaker 3>The BS would ruin everything.

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<v Speaker 4>You hire BSs to represent what is good and decent.

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<v Speaker 4>It doesn't work out.

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<v Speaker 3>And people throw out the bath with the baby with

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<v Speaker 3>the bathwater or whatever that expression is.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, that's exactly what they do.

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<v Speaker 3>Very, very interesting. Any thoughts on that? Give us a text, 415-295-KFTC.

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<v Speaker 5>Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 2>The Armstrong and Getty Show.

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<v Speaker 4>Aggies lead.

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<v Speaker 3>Wrong basket. Wrong basket. She shot it in their basket.

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<v Speaker 3>That threw me for a loop as well. Oh, my gosh.

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<v Speaker 3>I can honestly say I've never seen that.

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<v Speaker 4>Everyone acted as if it was a turnover and a

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<v Speaker 4>quick steal and score. Did they? It was a turnover.

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<v Speaker 3>And it fooled me as well. Did everybody act that way,

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<v Speaker 3>or are you just the worst sports announcer of all time? Anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>the New Mexico State women's basketball team scores in the

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<v Speaker 3>wrong basket. Dude, you, like, didn't connect to that.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, the player didn't. So, you know, you got to

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<v Speaker 4>excuse him.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait a minute. Put it back in the same basket

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<v Speaker 3>as the other person who shot it.

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<v Speaker 4>No, that would confuse you as a viewer. You know,

0:35:57.590 --> 0:35:59.609
<v Speaker 4>they grab the ball and then jam it. Well, they're

0:35:59.630 --> 0:36:01.150
<v Speaker 4>not going to jam it. In fact, the fact that

0:36:01.170 --> 0:36:06.660
<v Speaker 4>they made this shot is mildly surprising. Wow, that's unfortunate.

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<v Speaker 3>So I just saw Walmart is going to have for

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<v Speaker 3>Black Friday, which is still a thing for some reason,

0:36:15.380 --> 0:36:19.600
<v Speaker 3>is going to have $ 3 hoodies in different colors. Wow,

0:36:19.700 --> 0:36:22.780
<v Speaker 3>what did they pay that Chinese child to make that

0:36:22.780 --> 0:36:25.540
<v Speaker 3>$ 3 hoodie? That's a loss later, Jack.

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<v Speaker 4>They're trying to get people inside the store.

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<v Speaker 3>So I mentioned the other day.

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<v Speaker 4>It actually cost them three and a quarter.

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<v Speaker 3>My son is on a kick watching South America episodes.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what they call South Park now. They renamed it

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<v Speaker 3>South America.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>Which is pretty funny.

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<v Speaker 4>On so many levels.

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<v Speaker 5>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>So, but the kick we're on now, we started over

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<v Speaker 3>the weekend and I hadn't watched this in years. Were

0:36:51.270 --> 0:36:53.760
<v Speaker 3>you ever into Reno nine one one, but my son

0:36:53.820 --> 0:36:58.040
<v Speaker 3>is just loving it. That show is so freaking hilarious.

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<v Speaker 3>It was ahead of its time.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like one of the first of that just

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<v Speaker 3>really kind of low budget snarky. You could see it

0:37:05.580 --> 0:37:10.520
<v Speaker 3>being like a YouTube show, but, uh, but we saw

0:37:10.540 --> 0:37:14.859
<v Speaker 3>the classic episode the other night of when, uh, The

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<v Speaker 3>one short haired female geeky cop was dating the Truckee

0:37:19.580 --> 0:37:24.360
<v Speaker 3>River Killer. Oh, my God. She finally got a boyfriend

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<v Speaker 3>in there. They're all looking at the wanted poster on

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<v Speaker 3>the wall and look at her boyfriend. It's the Truckee

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<v Speaker 3>River Killer. He's got a human sized bird cage in

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<v Speaker 3>his living room. Anyway, that's a funny show. If you

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<v Speaker 3>haven't watched it, it's online somewhere.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks for the recommendation.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, it's very funny. We got a lot of stuff

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<v Speaker 3>to get to in hour four, including where we are

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<v Speaker 3>with the impeachment of the current Secretary of Defense or

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<v Speaker 3>Secretary of War, if you call it that, Pete Hegseth.

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<v Speaker 3>Impeachment articles are going to be introduced. Whether or not

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<v Speaker 3>the House votes to impeach him or not is an

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<v Speaker 3>open question. Pete put out quite a forceful defense. You'll

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<v Speaker 3>hear some of that in hour four. If you don't

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<v Speaker 3>get it, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand.

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<v Speaker 5>Armstrong and Getty.