WEBVTT - Karen Bass sits down with Elex Michaelson

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<v Speaker 1>And very happy Wednesday to you. At twelve oh seven

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<v Speaker 1>in the West, it's the John Phillips Show, mister Randy

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<v Speaker 1>Weggs in Culver City.

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<v Speaker 2>John, we are now less than two weeks away from

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<v Speaker 2>the elent the end of election season in Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 2>City and County continue to underperform the state of California

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to getting those ballots. In the state

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<v Speaker 2>of California is at six percent. LA City in La

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<v Speaker 2>County are at four percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is interesting because Spencer Pratt is the one that

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<v Speaker 1>is generating all of the interest in this election.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but is that interest from people who can vote

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<v Speaker 2>in Los Angeles or is that interest from the people

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<v Speaker 2>on the internet that can't vote in Los Angeles. Very

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<v Speaker 2>good point, Randy.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight hundred two two two five two two two is

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<v Speaker 1>jellphone number one eight hundred two two two five two

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<v Speaker 1>two two. Well, speaking of the City of Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 1>La Mayor Mother Oos gave another disastrous interview, this time

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<v Speaker 1>to CNNs Alex Michaelson. Here's the short version. It did

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<v Speaker 1>not go well. She's out of her element if she's

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<v Speaker 1>not rhyming.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's hear Karen Bass in her sit down with CNN's

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<v Speaker 2>Alex Michaelson.

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<v Speaker 3>So when you talked to Jake Tapper in twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 3>you said that your goal was to end street homelessness

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<v Speaker 3>in LA by twenty twenty six. It's now twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 4>And we haven't ended it.

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<v Speaker 3>We have not ended it, and we're not close to

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<v Speaker 3>ending it.

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<v Speaker 2>Four more years. By the way, Gavin Newsom did the

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<v Speaker 2>exact same thing that he was mayor of San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 3>How are you so off?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, basically, when I said that have you a valley girl?

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<v Speaker 2>I thought you were in Baldwin Hills.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember when Barbara Ferrer took on the valley girl persona?

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<v Speaker 4>The evidence is like feel clear on that?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what do you think she was like at You

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<v Speaker 2>See Santa Cruz. I don't want to know because that's

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<v Speaker 2>like the biggest party school in the UC system. So

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<v Speaker 2>what was she doing?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, just because you know her as the lady with

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<v Speaker 1>the white lab coat doesn't mean when she was an

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<v Speaker 1>undergraduate at You See Santa Cruz, she wasn't dancing on

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<v Speaker 1>tables whipping her braw around her head to mony mony.

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<v Speaker 2>Next side. He always paid interesting visuals on this show. Well, basically,

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<v Speaker 2>when basically.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, basically, when I said that it was.

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<v Speaker 2>This is true. On the old Loveline show before it

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<v Speaker 2>ended with Doctor Drew and Mike Catherwood, they used to

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<v Speaker 2>have a bell they would play when they'd have a

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<v Speaker 2>caller who called in, and they hit the bell every time.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone would say basically because they would say it about

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<v Speaker 2>seventeen times when explaining how they got in STD.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my, well, basically, when I said that it was

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<v Speaker 4>at the beginning of my term, I am very committed

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<v Speaker 4>to achieving that goal. I didn't anticipate some of the

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<v Speaker 4>bureaucratic barriers that I would experience.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you should have gotten some advice from Shang E Tao.

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<v Speaker 2>The breaucracy is real. Could have learned a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>But I am prepared to take those on now. And

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<v Speaker 4>let me just give you.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, this first four years was just getting the

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<v Speaker 2>training wheels, figuring out how this city works. The next

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<v Speaker 2>four years it's gonna be great.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like spring training in baseball, where you get

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<v Speaker 1>a whole month to work the kinks out. You said,

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<v Speaker 1>if elected, you would end street homelessness in four years,

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<v Speaker 1>and now there's a bomb on it corner.

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<v Speaker 4>But I am prepared to take those on now. And

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<v Speaker 4>let me just give you an example. Los Angeles made

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<v Speaker 4>a decision probably twenty twenty five years ago to not

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<v Speaker 4>address street homelessness, to focus.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, twenty five years ago, this wasn't that big of

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<v Speaker 2>a problem. No, no, this has become a massive problem

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<v Speaker 2>in what the last ten years, pretty much since twenty fourteen,

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<v Speaker 2>because that is when we de facto legalized drugs, and

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<v Speaker 2>you could go all the way back to about twenty

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<v Speaker 2>ten when we started depopulating the prison system.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a combination of those two things prison realignment

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<v Speaker 1>Prop forty seven, Prop Fifty seven. The moment we decriminalized

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<v Speaker 1>drugs and we decriminalized retail theft, it exploded.

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<v Speaker 4>To focus solely on building. And granted, I have fast

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<v Speaker 4>tracked forty two thousand units of a fourth did.

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<v Speaker 2>You say granted or granted? I don't know. Let's listen

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<v Speaker 2>to that again.

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<v Speaker 4>And granted, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Makes for a hell of a countertop.

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<v Speaker 4>And granted, I have fast tracked forty two thousand units

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<v Speaker 4>of affordable housing, but it still takes a couple of years.

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<v Speaker 2>So basically, and that fast tracking was in an executive order.

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<v Speaker 2>She wrote about two weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, But even though she's giving some of them units

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<v Speaker 1>to sleep in, they're just storing their stuff there, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're still hanging out in the encampments because that's where

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<v Speaker 1>the drugs and the fun are.

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<v Speaker 4>But it still takes a couple of years. So basically,

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<v Speaker 4>the policy of La that was.

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<v Speaker 2>The second one. I need a bell. Are we gonna

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<v Speaker 2>hear about chlamydia next? Oh? I missed that show.

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<v Speaker 4>So basically the policy of La City in La County

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<v Speaker 4>was we could accept straight homelessness as long as we

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<v Speaker 4>were building. We didn't anticipate the problem tasticizing. In my

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<v Speaker 4>three and a half years, for the first time, two

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<v Speaker 4>years in a Row Street homelessness has decreased in our city.

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<v Speaker 1>Nope, and that's with how many of them dying on

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<v Speaker 1>the streets per day between five and seven in the county,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so you're looking at a few thousand that

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<v Speaker 1>are dying because of overdose or other issues every single year.

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<v Speaker 4>In my three and a half years, for the first time,

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<v Speaker 4>two years in a Row Street homelessness has decreased in

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<v Speaker 4>our city. There hadn't been a decrease before.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, some important context. When Karen Bass took over, she

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<v Speaker 2>installed her friend Valicia Adams Kellum. Excuse me, doctor Valiicia

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<v Speaker 2>Adams Callum is the head of LASA, who changed the

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<v Speaker 2>methodology of how they count the stupid homeless count, and

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<v Speaker 2>who also, through a whistleblower complaint, was hiding about how

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<v Speaker 2>ineffective Karen Bass's homeless plans were. Huh.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's one thing that you should be able to

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<v Speaker 1>notice because you see it on a regular basis. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like when someone loses weight. You're used to fat Al Roker,

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<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden, Al Roker loses a

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<v Speaker 1>ton of weight, and he's this thin guy doing the

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<v Speaker 1>weather and you go, oh, look, Al Roker's thin now,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe not thin, but not as fat as he

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<v Speaker 1>used to be. You live here in Los Angeles, You

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<v Speaker 1>drive around the streets, you drive around the freeways, you

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<v Speaker 1>have your eyes open, You're aware of your surroundings. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>you think we would all feel it and see it

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<v Speaker 1>if the number of people living on the streets was

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<v Speaker 1>actually in free fall?

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<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you, as a resident, unfortunately of the

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<v Speaker 2>city of Los Angeles, you can see it. You can

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<v Speaker 2>smell it.

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<v Speaker 4>You can smell it right here.

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<v Speaker 2>And you can feel it.

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<v Speaker 4>In my three and a half years for the first

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<v Speaker 4>time two years in a Row Street. Homelessness has decreased

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<v Speaker 4>in our city. There hadn't been a decrease before. That

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<v Speaker 4>is a quality of life issue that impacts all Angelinos,

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<v Speaker 4>whether you are unhoused or whether you run.

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<v Speaker 2>Can we stop using that term, No, she is wed

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<v Speaker 2>to that.

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<v Speaker 4>Term, or whether you run a business.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, lassit doesn't even like that term anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>They say. The appropriate term is people experiencing homelessness. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>how about this.

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<v Speaker 1>If they actually have a house, whether it be a

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<v Speaker 1>unit that was given to them through Project Inside Safe,

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<v Speaker 1>a bed at a homeless shelter, a couch to sleep on, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>But they have a domicile where they could live if

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted to, but they prefer to hang out in

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<v Speaker 1>the encampments because that is their preference.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you call that?

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<v Speaker 4>Or whether you run a business and your business can't

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<v Speaker 4>function because there's tenths outside, whether you're a peer that's

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<v Speaker 4>trying to navigate through tenths to get to.

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<v Speaker 2>School, all of this is still happening every single day.

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<v Speaker 4>Or whether it's residents where it has decreased the quality

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<v Speaker 4>of life. So this is a problem. That all Angelino's experience,

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<v Speaker 4>and we have got to have a commitment that this

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<v Speaker 4>has to end the.

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<v Speaker 2>City you're in charge. This is so pathetic.

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<v Speaker 1>Where she's making the argument, well, I know, I promised

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<v Speaker 1>that I would fix this problem in four years and

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even come close. However, I'm making a dent

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<v Speaker 1>in it, and you need to give me four more years,

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<v Speaker 1>because only if you give me four more years can

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<v Speaker 1>I make the problem go away.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think she can make the problem go away

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<v Speaker 2>at this rate in forty more years. No, no, she

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<v Speaker 2>can't because she's part of the problem.

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<v Speaker 4>The city and the county never made that commitment before.

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<v Speaker 4>And I found something that surprised me. I found a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of people who work internal in this system who

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<v Speaker 4>were very resistant to ending street homelessness.

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<v Speaker 2>You mean the homeless industrial complex who you are bringing

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<v Speaker 2>the brinks truck to. Shocking that the service providers don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to solve the problem because that's how they get

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<v Speaker 2>their funding. Part of Karen Bass's problem is this, she

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<v Speaker 2>is one of these people who buys into the false

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<v Speaker 2>idea that the high cost of housing is causing the homelessness,

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<v Speaker 2>which we all know is not true. It's drugs, it's alcohol,

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<v Speaker 2>it's mental illness, a combination of the three. But she

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<v Speaker 2>cannot move away from that position because part of the

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<v Speaker 2>reason that she has the money to run for reelection

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<v Speaker 2>is because the developers like her, because she gets to

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<v Speaker 2>spend money on homeless housing. The homeless services organizations love

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<v Speaker 2>her because she makes it rain for them. She keeps

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<v Speaker 2>it all going. This problem is never going to be

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<v Speaker 2>solved with that woman in that office.

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<v Speaker 3>But you promised that it would go away one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>percent and it's only gone down about seventeen point six percent.

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<v Speaker 3>So why should people trust you that you're going to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to get to the hunting?

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<v Speaker 2>Because great question, Alex Michaelson. Good for him.

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<v Speaker 3>So why should people trust you that you're going to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to get.

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<v Speaker 4>To the hunt because, let me just tell you, for

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<v Speaker 4>the first time, we've had a decrease at all.

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<v Speaker 1>No, if you were selling a product and car companies

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<v Speaker 1>get in trouble for this all the time, they put

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<v Speaker 1>ads in the newspaper, buy this suv because it gets

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<v Speaker 1>thirty miles per gallon, and then in real reality the

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<v Speaker 1>car comes nowhere near thirty miles per gallon. It gets

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know eighteen nineteen miles per gallon, and you go, now,

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<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, that's not what the salesman promised me.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not what it said on the sticker. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>what the car company said in their literature. They promised

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<v Speaker 1>thirty miles per gallon. The FTC if people file complaints,

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<v Speaker 1>comes down on the auto manufacturers like a ton of

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<v Speaker 1>bricks when they do that, because you cannot make a

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<v Speaker 1>false claim in writing in your advertising and then expect

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<v Speaker 1>the consumer to just deal with it when your promise

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't come to fruition. That's how you get class action lawsuits,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how you get government regulators knocking on your door. Yet,

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<v Speaker 1>for Karen Bass, she can make these totally outrageous promises

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<v Speaker 1>that you know are not going to come true, and

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<v Speaker 1>then she just moves on to the next one after

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<v Speaker 1>she gets called out for not fulfilling her first obligation.

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<v Speaker 2>I drive on Vano And Boulevard from my home on

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<v Speaker 2>the west side of the San Fernando Valley to Bourbank

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<v Speaker 2>Airport pretty regularly, and the last few times I've done this,

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<v Speaker 2>I've started counting the tents that I see just on

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<v Speaker 2>Van Owen going through the Valley to get to that airport.

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<v Speaker 2>The amount of tents have not changed.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it looks like outside of a Best Buy on

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<v Speaker 1>Black Friday.

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<v Speaker 4>There was not a decrease before at all, because there

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<v Speaker 4>was no commitment to get rid of street encampments, and

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<v Speaker 4>we had encampments all over the city.

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<v Speaker 2>We still do. It. Used to just be in skid row,

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<v Speaker 2>but now they're everywhere.

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<v Speaker 4>So I would ask for people's trust in the sense that.

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<v Speaker 2>We did drop a tea there. She likes to do that,

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't she Usually she drops the d That's the first

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<v Speaker 2>time she's dropped the tea. I trust Bass.

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<v Speaker 4>So I would ask for people's trusts in the sense

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<v Speaker 4>that we have absolutely made progress. We know what we

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<v Speaker 4>need to do now to in street homelessness.

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<v Speaker 2>We need I finally figured out what to do. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to need four more years to implement it, though.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, then why aren't you doing it now? If you've

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<v Speaker 1>cracked the code, why is it that we have to

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<v Speaker 1>wait until after election day in November.

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<v Speaker 4>We know what we need to do now to in

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<v Speaker 4>street homelessness. We need to end the failed policies of

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<v Speaker 4>the past, which is all we're going to do is

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<v Speaker 4>focus on building, and we are going to ignore street homelessness.

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<v Speaker 4>That is what the city in the county has done

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<v Speaker 4>for years, ignored street homelessness.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, she's really trying to throw everybody but her under

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<v Speaker 2>the bus.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, when she talks about the quote

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<v Speaker 1>mistakes of the past, what she's talking about is incarceration.

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<v Speaker 1>If we're ever going to get out of this crisis,

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<v Speaker 1>what we're going to have to do is put many

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<v Speaker 1>of them in prison because they're breaking the law on

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<v Speaker 1>a regular basis. They're doing it in plain side, and

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<v Speaker 1>the cops and the system are being told to look

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<v Speaker 1>the other way.

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<v Speaker 3>What would you identify as sort of the biggest obstacle

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<v Speaker 3>that you learned maybe being in the job, and how

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<v Speaker 3>are you going to tackle that differently in the next

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<v Speaker 3>four years.

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<v Speaker 4>The biggest obstacle is the resistance to building interim housing so.

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<v Speaker 2>Basic, you mean putting up shelters in single family neighborhoods

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<v Speaker 2>that attract crime. Gee, I wonder why there's resistance to that.

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<v Speaker 2>That one's hard to figure out. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>this was a policy of the former mayor Eric Garcetti

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<v Speaker 2>who created the Bridge Home system, where we needed a

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<v Speaker 2>shelter in every district. But don't you worry. If we

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<v Speaker 2>build these things, we're going to make sure to clean

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<v Speaker 2>up the area in front of the shelter. And that

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<v Speaker 2>did not happen. I received things on both ends.

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<v Speaker 4>So basically it was an three.

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<v Speaker 2>Where's that bell?

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<v Speaker 4>So basic it was an ald or nothing type policy.

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<v Speaker 4>I think probably.

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<v Speaker 2>She added a D there.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess if she drops the D she can pick

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<v Speaker 1>them up and use them when she wants to.

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<v Speaker 4>So basically it was an ald or nothing type policy.

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<v Speaker 4>I think probably for a good reason. We didn't want

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<v Speaker 4>people to languish in shelters, but the shelters of the

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<v Speaker 4>old was a big room with cots all around. That

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<v Speaker 4>does have to end. But now there's new and improved

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<v Speaker 4>shelters where you can house multiple people. It's not a

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<v Speaker 4>motel room.

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<v Speaker 2>You can have oy way. Your hope plan's been motels.

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<v Speaker 2>So why aren't you changing that strategy right now while

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<v Speaker 2>you are in charge of the government for at least

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<v Speaker 2>the next six months.

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<v Speaker 1>When she had the big reveal of Project inside Safe,

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't the snooty fox mentioned by name?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yes? And there were yelp reviews that were complaining

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<v Speaker 2>about the specific kinds of porn that you could order

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<v Speaker 2>on the TV. We got a lot more of this

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<v Speaker 2>unedited twenty minute interview with Karen Bass sitting down with

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<v Speaker 2>Alexmichaelson and it did not go well.

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<v Speaker 1>And we'll give you a hint. She drops more ds.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember when Jeffrey Tubin dropped the D.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't need to get into that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, are you coming down here for this? Are you

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<v Speaker 2>working from there?

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't decided yet, because if you're staying there, then

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<v Speaker 1>I'm staying home.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to be a Culver City till nine

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<v Speaker 2>o'clock at night. Anyway, that's a conversation I have with

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<v Speaker 2>Art if you want to hear what we think about

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<v Speaker 2>the election. As we close the polls at eight o'clock,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to be broadcasting live from seven to nine

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<v Speaker 2>that we have. But knowing that this is California and

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<v Speaker 2>people can submit their ballots right up until the end,

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<v Speaker 1>In the meantime, what do you say we make a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of listeners very happy?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm very happy about this. Seven ninety KABC welcomes

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<v Speaker 2>June thirteenth and Sunday, June fourteenth. Hey, they know what

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<v Speaker 2>let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>Back to LA Mayor Karen Bass's sit down interview. We

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<v Speaker 1>see it ends Alex Michaelson.

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<v Speaker 4>But now there's new and improved shelters where you can

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<v Speaker 4>house multiple people. It's not a motel room. You can

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<v Speaker 4>house multiple people.

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<v Speaker 2>Where they got to figure this out four years ago

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<v Speaker 2>just by having a one conversation with the Union Rescue Mission.

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<v Speaker 4>Where they do have a modicum of privacy. And one

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<v Speaker 4>thing that we have specialized that we have absolutely conquered

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<v Speaker 4>in my time, which is we know how to get

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<v Speaker 4>people off the streets. We know how to get there.

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<v Speaker 2>Where what evidence do you have to prove this? Every

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<v Speaker 2>single day that I drive into this radio station and

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<v Speaker 2>we're right on the dividing line of LA and Culver City.

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<v Speaker 2>Once you cross Venice, you're into Culver City. But when

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<v Speaker 2>you get off the ten Freeway at Robertson, you're still

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<v Speaker 2>in the city. And what do you see as you're

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<v Speaker 2>getting off the freeway a massive encampment that has been

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<v Speaker 2>there for years and years and years and years and years.

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<v Speaker 1>Under the freeway there's a homeless encampment that has a

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<v Speaker 1>loading dock for stolen bikes.

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<v Speaker 4>Which is, we know how to get people off the streets,

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<v Speaker 4>we know how to get them to accept the services

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<v Speaker 4>that they need. And the only people.

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<v Speaker 2>That forty percent of the people in your Signature program

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<v Speaker 2>are back on the streets three years later.

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<v Speaker 4>And the only people that refuse at this point, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's a very small number, are people who are so

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<v Speaker 4>profoundly ill they don't even know they're homeless. Or you

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<v Speaker 4>have the criminal element, and that's a very small element

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<v Speaker 4>of the homeless population.

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<v Speaker 2>But sure about that? What planet is this Disney broad

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<v Speaker 2>living on. Well, if you admit that there is a

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<v Speaker 2>massive criminal element to the homeless population, the public would

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<v Speaker 2>want to put them in prison.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember some time ago we had then Anaheim

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<v Speaker 1>councilwoman Lucille Kring on this program who talked about touring

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<v Speaker 1>the Santa Ana River. That's the river that runs right

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<v Speaker 1>through Orange County to the ocean and goes right by

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<v Speaker 1>Angel Stadium. And she said when she was interviewing the

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<v Speaker 1>people who were living in the river, almost to a person,

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<v Speaker 1>they were let out of prison early. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>criminal encampment. People who should still be in state prison

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<v Speaker 1>but were released early because we were overcrowded. Now, Karen

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<v Speaker 1>Bass is trying to tell us that the mentally ill population,

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<v Speaker 1>the drug addicted, the criminal elements. That's a tiny fraction

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<v Speaker 1>of the overall homeless population in Los Angeles who is

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<v Speaker 1>believing that we.

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<v Speaker 2>Know from the raids of MacArthur Park, and we've heard

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<v Speaker 2>this for a very long time. We've heard this about encampments.

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<v Speaker 2>Even in Nitia Rahmans District, the gangs imbed themselves in

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<v Speaker 2>the homeless encamment. Where do you think the drug dealers are.

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<v Speaker 4>Or you have the criminal element and that's a very

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<v Speaker 4>small element of the homeless population, but it does exist

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<v Speaker 4>and they should be held accountable.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, the most hollow word in the English language

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<v Speaker 1>in the state of California.

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<v Speaker 4>Accountability, accountability, accountability.

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<v Speaker 3>All of the candidates for governor said that people who

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<v Speaker 3>refuse shelter should be forced into it. Do you agree

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<v Speaker 3>with that, Well.

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<v Speaker 4>It depends. Let me just explain people.

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<v Speaker 2>Who are Wait, did you say depends or do you

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<v Speaker 2>say depends because those are two different things, one of

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<v Speaker 2>them sold to Target.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you agree with that, Well, it depends.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me just explain thinks you dropped another d.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me just explain people who are profoundly mentally ill

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<v Speaker 4>and they don't even know that they're ill. I do

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<v Speaker 4>believe there should be involuntary hospitalization. Right now, the laws

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<v Speaker 4>don't allow.

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<v Speaker 2>For that, right I thought Gavin Newsom's care Court specifically

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<v Speaker 2>allowed for that.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that all of these people act like they

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<v Speaker 1>have no power. You know, if I were in charge,

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<v Speaker 1>we take all the crazy ones and we throw them

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<v Speaker 1>in the nuthouse.

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<v Speaker 4>Right now, the laws don't allow for that, and even

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<v Speaker 4>if they did, we didn't have the facilities. But you

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<v Speaker 4>can't just incarcerate people, And let me.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell you why not.

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<v Speaker 1>If they're breaking the law, and they're doing it in

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<v Speaker 1>front of you, why can't you put them in jail?

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<v Speaker 4>Call up our sheriff and say, ask him what he

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<v Speaker 4>thinks about that. The jails are already overpopulated.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if you went to Sheriff Robert Lona, who is

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<v Speaker 2>also up for reelection, and you said I don't feel

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<v Speaker 2>safe in La County because you won't do anything about

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<v Speaker 2>the homeless program, he would say back, I need you

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<v Speaker 2>to not fill that wait.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's funny. Whenever we hear a crime victim

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<v Speaker 1>in a local news report and they sound totally defeated

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<v Speaker 1>from top to bottom, where they have no fight left

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<v Speaker 1>in them at all. That's what Robert Luna sounds like.

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<v Speaker 1>Every time he goes on television. He sounds like the

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<v Speaker 1>most defeated man on planet.

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<v Speaker 2>Earth. I'm talking about al Bundy level. Even al Bundy

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<v Speaker 2>had a little more fighting in than that guy. That's true.

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<v Speaker 4>And if you were upset about how much it costs,

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<v Speaker 4>it costs far more money.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it does. I don't think it does.

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<v Speaker 2>When you talk about all the different service providers, all

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<v Speaker 2>the NGOs, all the nonprofits, I really don't think it

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<v Speaker 2>costs more to keep these people in jail, in prison. No,

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<v Speaker 2>and think about this too.

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<v Speaker 1>Every time a crime occurs, there's a cost associated with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Every murder costs society a certain amount of dollars because

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<v Speaker 1>you have to have the police officers to go look

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<v Speaker 1>for the person. Let's assume that you find them. You

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<v Speaker 1>have to pay for the prosecutor to prosecute them, for

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<v Speaker 1>the people who collect the evidence, to collect the evidence,

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<v Speaker 1>for the judge, all the people who have to take

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<v Speaker 1>time off work to serve on the jury, all the

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<v Speaker 1>people who have to testify, all the people who have

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<v Speaker 1>to defend the person when they've been accused of the crime.

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<v Speaker 1>If they can get convicted, then they go to prison

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<v Speaker 1>and you have to pay for all the costs associated

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<v Speaker 1>with that. There is a huge bill that comes every

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<v Speaker 1>time a law is broken, and the more severe the crime,

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<v Speaker 1>the more cost that's associated with it. If you want

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<v Speaker 1>to look after the taxpayer dollars, what you need to

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<v Speaker 1>do is you need to identify the people who break

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<v Speaker 1>all the laws.

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<v Speaker 2>And you need to put them in jail.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what we did in the nineteen nineties, and it

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<v Speaker 1>worked like a Swiss clock. And then we became a

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<v Speaker 1>victim of our own success. People were saying, why is

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<v Speaker 1>it that we're spending a fortune on the prisons. Why

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<v Speaker 1>aren't we spending that money on education. Well, because we

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<v Speaker 1>like nice things. And if you let the criminals run wild,

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<v Speaker 1>guess what, you can't have nice things.

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<v Speaker 4>And if you were upset about how much.

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<v Speaker 2>Karen Bess's planned to put people in motels is costing

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<v Speaker 2>seventeen thousand dollars per bed per month, And if you.

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<v Speaker 4>Were upset about how much it costs, it costs far

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<v Speaker 4>more money to incarcerate somebody than it does to take

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<v Speaker 4>care of them. So that's an emotional response. And I

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<v Speaker 4>understand that that response comes out of frustration, but it

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<v Speaker 4>is not a productive thing.

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<v Speaker 1>No, don't say that. You know what that reminds me of.

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<v Speaker 1>It reminds me of all these sitcoms from the nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>fifties where the wife is so emotional and the husband

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<v Speaker 1>has to tell her to calm down. We're not a

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifties housewife. Our fear of the homeless and our

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<v Speaker 1>fear of the criminals is not something that is unwarranted.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a totally rational thing to have because we see

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<v Speaker 1>what they've done to the neighborhoods. We see how retail

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<v Speaker 1>stores can't stay open, we see the encampments. We've been

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<v Speaker 1>the victims of crime. Don't act like our response as irrational.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's talk for a moment about the fires, because that's

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<v Speaker 3>been a big part of what your opponent, Spencer Pratt,

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<v Speaker 3>is talking About's big reason why he's running in the

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<v Speaker 3>first place.

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<v Speaker 2>Because you burned his house down. Seems like a legit

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<v Speaker 2>reason to run to me.

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<v Speaker 3>And he points to the fact that you went to Ghana.

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<v Speaker 3>You said to me in February twenty twenty five that

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<v Speaker 3>there were warnings that you weren't aware of and that

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<v Speaker 3>it didn't reach the level to you to say that

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<v Speaker 3>you couldn't shouldn't have gone on the trip. It's what

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<v Speaker 3>you said to me when I was on Fox eleven.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a new book out by Jonathan Bigliatti of CBS

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<v Speaker 3>News called Torched.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh this was the reporter, by the way, that was

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<v Speaker 2>at these press conferences every single day following the initial

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<v Speaker 2>break of the fires, and Karen Bass got so pissed

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<v Speaker 2>at all of his questions. Oh I remember that. And

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<v Speaker 2>his book has some damning revelations.

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<v Speaker 3>And he says, quote, according to multiple sources, Bass had

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<v Speaker 3>been briefed before her departure about the National Weather Services

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<v Speaker 3>fire models, So which is it.

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<v Speaker 4>That's just simply not true.

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<v Speaker 2>The book also claims that Karen Bass didn't tell any

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<v Speaker 2>of her staffers where she was going.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is a little bit like Joe Biden being senile.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyone paying attention to the news is aware of it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like it was some big secret that the

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<v Speaker 1>winds were coming. It was on all the local TV stations,

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<v Speaker 1>all the local radio stations, it's on your iPhone, it's

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<v Speaker 1>everywhere you go. It's not as if you have to

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<v Speaker 1>have some sort of secret briefing with the chief of

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<v Speaker 1>the LAFD so you understand the wind is coming.

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<v Speaker 2>Open.

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<v Speaker 4>So I don't know what sources he's talking to, but

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<v Speaker 4>that is a whost sale.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if the sources were named, you would probably retaliate

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<v Speaker 2>against them like you did with the fire chief falsehood.

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<v Speaker 4>I will tell you that it wasn't just the city.

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<v Speaker 4>The entire county was not prepared for this.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not a really good defense. No, it's not. We

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<v Speaker 2>get a lot more of this insane answer to this

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<v Speaker 2>fire question coming up, Johnny.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight hundred two two two five two two two is

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<v Speaker 1>telephone number one eight hundred two two two five two

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<v Speaker 1>two two the fixed California Hour coming up after the

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<v Speaker 1>news it won. Jim Lacy joins us. But right now

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<v Speaker 1>we're going through the sound of La Mayor Karen Bass

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<v Speaker 1>to sit down with ceen n's Alex Michaelson.

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<v Speaker 4>And when I talked to the chief when I got home,

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<v Speaker 4>basically the response.

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<v Speaker 2>A dang she it really does like that word.

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<v Speaker 4>And when I talked to the chief when I got home,

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<v Speaker 4>basically the response was, well, we always have Santa Anna wins.

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<v Speaker 4>We didn't anticipate them being this bad.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not what the chief who's suing her is saying.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not what they said on every single traffic and

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<v Speaker 1>weather report in town.

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<v Speaker 4>It was not just the city of Los Angeles. It

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<v Speaker 4>was not just me, but what I also said to you,

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<v Speaker 4>Alex is that it was a horrible, horrible moment in

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<v Speaker 4>my life, and obviously it wasn't so many others lives.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, this isn't about you, baby.

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<v Speaker 1>People's homes burned down, their businesses burned down, their communities

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<v Speaker 1>burned down, and she's making this about Karen.

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<v Speaker 2>People died.

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<v Speaker 4>I compare it to if you're out of town when

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<v Speaker 4>a loved one has an accident or is sick. It

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't matter where you were, and it doesn't matter why

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<v Speaker 4>you were there. The point is I wasn't here when

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<v Speaker 4>my city and that is a profound regret.

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<v Speaker 2>So why should we ever trust you?

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<v Speaker 3>Good question, But that book makes the point that you

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<v Speaker 3>being in Ghana actually hurt the city's response. It argues

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<v Speaker 3>that during the hour when the fire was building, that

0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:18.640
<v Speaker 3>you were sort of out of touch because you were

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<v Speaker 3>focused on the event in Ghana.

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<v Speaker 4>No, that's actually not true either. So I'll have to

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<v Speaker 4>read this book. And it would have been helpful if

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<v Speaker 4>the author would have interviewed me.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, he said, he said that he asked for an

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<v Speaker 3>interview for a couple of years, and.

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<v Speaker 4>Well that's news to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, blaming her staff. Now, typically what journalists do before

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<v Speaker 2>they're about to put out a damning report or a

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<v Speaker 2>damning book is they asked for you to comment. They

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<v Speaker 2>ask parent bass, would you like to share your side

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<v Speaker 2>of the story. They did not do that, And now

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<v Speaker 2>she's claiming that she was never asked for that interview.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, she only does friendly interviews. Have you noticed that

0:32:59.640 --> 0:33:02.520
<v Speaker 1>she goes was on KNX, She'll go on Spectrum, She'll

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<v Speaker 1>go on MSNBC. I think she thought she was going

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<v Speaker 1>to get a softball from Alex over at CNN, and

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<v Speaker 1>boy did she guess wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a big difference between going on with Alex Michaelson

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<v Speaker 2>and going on with Brian Tyler Cohen.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me just explain to you that when the fire

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<v Speaker 4>broke out, it was nighttime in Ghana, and I was

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<v Speaker 4>due to board a plane in a couple of hours,

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<v Speaker 4>and I took.

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<v Speaker 2>You were at a cocktail party. There's pictures they first

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<v Speaker 2>plane out.

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<v Speaker 4>I was in touch the entire time. I was in

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<v Speaker 4>touch the twelve hours I was actually on the plane

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<v Speaker 4>because it was a military plane, and I was on

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<v Speaker 4>the phone the entire time. The minute the fires broke out,

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<v Speaker 4>I was on the phone talking to the chief and

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<v Speaker 4>talking to the council president. So when I leave town,

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<v Speaker 4>the council president becomes the mayor.

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<v Speaker 2>Was you also had a deputy mayor of public Safety

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<v Speaker 2>who's supposed to direct response to police and fire, but

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<v Speaker 2>he was on.

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<v Speaker 1>Leave for what John making fake bomb threads.

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<v Speaker 4>I was helping with the executive order that was being issued,

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<v Speaker 4>but obviously that wasn't enough. I wasn't here. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>like I found out there was a fire and I

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<v Speaker 4>was in the middle of a party.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually you were, No, that's exactly what happened.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think that, knowing what we know now looking back,

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<v Speaker 3>that this fire could have either been prevented or way

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<v Speaker 3>way way less in terms of its damage if the

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<v Speaker 3>city would have acted differently.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I think if the city and the county had

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<v Speaker 4>acted differently.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, we're throwing the county under the bus again.

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<v Speaker 1>She's doing that for a reason, because, don't forget it

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<v Speaker 1>was La County Supervisor Lindsay Horvath who was toying with

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of running for mayor against Karen Bass and

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<v Speaker 1>decided against it at the last minute. That's why the county,

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<v Speaker 1>he is experiencing their time in the barrel,