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Speaker 2: com and JD A lot to react to live last night,
Speaker 2: not only from the Giants attempted comeback before the Jung
Speaker 2: Houlee misread out and right field, but some familiar faces
Speaker 2: in new places. It was a little weird last night
Speaker 2: seeing Luis Arise as a member of the Philadelphia Phillies
Speaker 2: had RBI knots in his first two at bats. Elliott
Speaker 2: Ramos made his debut at Yankee Stadium, hitting in a
Speaker 2: cleanup spot. He went over for last night. Eric Miller
Speaker 2: made his debut Fenway Pac sixth inning. Came in recorded
Speaker 2: one out as the lefty specialists. Did you have any pangs, JD?
Speaker 2: Did you have any regrets? Did you have any feelings
Speaker 2: about maybe seeing some familiar faces in new places?
Speaker 3: No regrets, although I do think there was a case
Speaker 3: to be made for moving Jung Julie and maybe not
Speaker 3: Elliott Ramos.
Speaker 4: You could have maybe flipped that.
Speaker 3: But right handed bats in greater demand, and again I
Speaker 3: think they do want Jung Julee the hitter and the
Speaker 3: defender the end of last night, notwithstanding he's been excellent
Speaker 3: in the outfield. But the style of hitter that Jung
Speaker 3: Hoolee is exudes what the Giants want, that their style
Speaker 3: of hitter to be right, like somebody that's gonna hit
Speaker 3: line drives and spray the ball all over the field
Speaker 3: like Jung Houley has become. I think the sort of
Speaker 3: the prototypical identity for not everybody in a lineup, because
Speaker 3: you need boppers and thumpers too, but I think he
Speaker 3: kind of exudes.
Speaker 4: The way they want to be as as a team
Speaker 4: at the play.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he kind of fits the archetype of that contact
Speaker 2: first hitter that buser Posey has been looking for to
Speaker 2: put the ball in play.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: They just had a great one on Luis the Rise,
Speaker 2: but unfortunately had to trade him because of the expiring
Speaker 2: contracts act. But Jung Hou Lee probably fits that prototype
Speaker 2: more than a guy like Elliot Ramos does. And he's
Speaker 2: been a great defender at the corner and right field,
Speaker 2: and that's been the flip side to Elliott Ramos obviously,
Speaker 2: who struggled although improved from last year, but struggled in
Speaker 2: the outfield. Yeah, we had we had a text earlier
Speaker 2: from the four and five on the Golden State Lumber
Speaker 2: and shrowm Tex sign and said, boys, don't give Jung
Speaker 2: Ju Lee a hard time. He was just giving a
Speaker 2: tribute to Elliott Ramos with the bad route in right field.
Speaker 4: Can I riff a little bit?
Speaker 2: You can riff, but you can riff, But Jungle Lee
Speaker 2: has been great in right field defensively. A blunder last night,
Speaker 2: A bad play, a play that I still say to
Speaker 2: this day should go in the books as an air
Speaker 2: not a base hit. But maybe that's a complaint for
Speaker 2: another day, just a bad route from Jung Houlee.
Speaker 4: But hey, look it happens.
Speaker 2: I saw who was it Kyle Tucker last night go
Speaker 2: face first into the ivy last night at Wrigley as
Speaker 2: he was starting in right field for the Trek Scoobale
Speaker 2: debut in a Dodger's uniform. Let's hit that topic before
Speaker 2: we get the Giants pre game. It was an ugly sight.
Speaker 2: Walter had the cojones to ask us if it was
Speaker 2: good or bad for Bay Baseball that Schooble got traded
Speaker 2: to the Dodgers earlier this morning. Obviously the answer is
Speaker 2: bad for baseball, but it was good to see the
Speaker 2: Dodgers lose in Schoobl's debut. Have now lost five games
Speaker 2: in a row, the longest losing streak of the season
Speaker 2: for the Dodgers. Any reaction to see in schoobl last
Speaker 2: night and that Dodger blew Well.
Speaker 3: The question I asked you earlier that I'll pose again
Speaker 3: for the later audience, is is it karma?
Speaker 4: Is karma coming back to bite the I hope it bites.
Speaker 4: I sure do hope it's karma. I'm half kidding.
Speaker 3: Obviously they're not doing anything obviously against the rules, but yeah,
Speaker 3: it was a it was a playoff atmosphere at.
Speaker 4: Wrigley both of these these first two games.
Speaker 3: And they're playing an afternoon game today and and so
Speaker 3: we'll see how everything shakes out with that. But yeah,
Speaker 3: the Cubs are playing great baseball right now. But it's
Speaker 3: five in a row, right the Red Sox go in
Speaker 3: and sweep them over the weekend at Dodger Stadium, and
Speaker 3: then they lose the first two. Is the tide turning
Speaker 3: on the Dodgers just as everybody was ready to annoy
Speaker 3: as three time champion?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And that's what's so frustrating, because we all
Speaker 2: know in the sport of baseball, you can't just buy championships. Now,
Speaker 2: theoretically you can. The Dodgers have done a pretty damn
Speaker 2: good job going back to back the last couple of years.
Speaker 2: But let's not forget the Toronto Blue Jays. We're ninety
Speaker 2: feet away from winning the World Series last year. And
Speaker 2: I think maybe that leads to a bigger conversation that
Speaker 2: we'll be having over the next year or so, looking
Speaker 2: at the next twenty twenty seventh season, if there is
Speaker 2: a potential lockout. There's a lot of people who think
Speaker 2: the Dodgers have ruined the game, not only with the
Speaker 2: Shoho Tawny contract and the deferred money, but overpaying guys
Speaker 2: like Kyle Tucker. Like, that's one conversation that we can
Speaker 2: have about the deep pockets of the Dodgers. But when
Speaker 2: it comes to the schoobl trade, I hate to say it,
Speaker 2: there are twenty nine other teams around the league, or
Speaker 2: should I say twenty eight that could have made that
Speaker 2: trade offer as well. Now it's a little different because
Speaker 2: it seems like there has been kind of the cookie
Speaker 2: trail leading to the Dodgers, with schoobl listening to Time
Speaker 2: like it was kind of certain that he was going
Speaker 2: to sign with them this next offseason, which maybe made
Speaker 2: teams more hesitant to give up a haul of prospects
Speaker 2: for a rental when they could see Scooble leaving in
Speaker 2: the offseason.
Speaker 4: Anyways, but still.
Speaker 2: If you're even the Detroit Tigers, so only two and
Speaker 2: a half games out of the Wildcard, it's kind of
Speaker 2: crazy to sell on Schooble and only get that return
Speaker 2: for arguably the best pitcher in baseball.
Speaker 3: I understand why the Tigers did it, although I think
Speaker 3: to trade him and then not trade Maze and Mys
Speaker 3: went to the you know, right up until the minute
Speaker 3: before he ended up going to San Diego, that to
Speaker 3: me would have been would have been ridiculous. Like to me,
Speaker 3: you either are all in and keep both of them,
Speaker 3: or you or you trade both of them, despite the
Speaker 3: fact that you're right. Your record be damned because it's
Speaker 3: the third wild card. It's even more mediocre in terms
Speaker 3: of teams that are in it in the American League
Speaker 3: than even in the National League.
Speaker 4: But I think so.
Speaker 3: I understand why the Tigers did what they did despite
Speaker 3: their run differential and the leaf that they're a better team,
Speaker 3: and I actually get it from their point of view.
Speaker 3: I would have looked to get Schooble if I were
Speaker 3: one of the teams competing against the Dodgers, in part
Speaker 3: because of the labor questions that are a part of
Speaker 3: every conversation right now. Because you said something earlier that
Speaker 3: I honestly hadn't thought about, I thought it was a
Speaker 3: great point. You mentioned the Dodgers extending Schooble. Now, yep,
Speaker 3: extending Schooble during the season before the new collective bargaining agreement,
Speaker 3: And that is something that I as another team around baseball.
Speaker 4: Yes, you want to be able to beat.
Speaker 3: The Dodgers this year with Scooble if you're the Brewers
Speaker 3: or maybe one of these other teams, But I would
Speaker 3: want to acquire Schooble because it would limit the Dodgers'
Speaker 3: ability to sign him potentially in the off season. Because
Speaker 3: the financial ramifications are going to change. The Dodgers may
Speaker 3: have to trade half their off or move on for like,
Speaker 3: they may have to do a bunch of things they
Speaker 3: don't want to do based on what the new landscape
Speaker 3: of baseball is.
Speaker 4: I know I've thrown out there.
Speaker 3: There's gonna be amnesties and different things and salary caps
Speaker 3: and floors and all these different things that we don't
Speaker 3: need to get into too wonky. But the bottom line
Speaker 3: is that Dodgers are gonna have to shed talent in
Speaker 3: some form or fashion.
Speaker 4: So I think it's actually harder for.
Speaker 3: Them to sign Scooble or it will be in a
Speaker 3: new collective bargaining agreement than it would have been to
Speaker 3: just get him and extend him now. So if I'm
Speaker 3: another team, I would have bet yep, that you're going
Speaker 3: to actually give him a better shot at staying away
Speaker 3: from the Dodgers for the next five years for like
Speaker 3: getting a.
Speaker 2: Long term plan. And yes, the Dodgers might try to
Speaker 2: sneak in this contract extension before the next potential CBA agreement.
Speaker 2: Then you look at them maybe trying to grandfather that
Speaker 2: contract into the next kind of set of contracts moving forward.
Speaker 2: It's kind of how I felt when they said, screw it,
Speaker 2: we're gonna give Kyle Tucker sixty million dollars per year.
Speaker 2: Kyle Tucker's not worth that much. But if it's only
Speaker 2: a two to three year contract leading up to this
Speaker 2: next CBA, the Dodgers are essentially playing with blank you
Speaker 2: money right now, and they're gonna pay all these guys
Speaker 2: and get these deferred contracts lined up before it. Major
Speaker 2: League Baseball potentially tells them they're not allowed to do
Speaker 2: this anymore.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: That's that's exactly right, And so I think, you know,
Speaker 3: they've been ahead of the game in terms of and
Speaker 3: it's funny there are the parallels between, you know, the
Speaker 3: things that were done in the NBA because of the
Speaker 3: Warrior's success and trying to combat that and the Warriors
Speaker 3: maybe not being prepared for it in the way that
Speaker 3: they needed to be. It feels like the Dodgers are
Speaker 3: at a very like they're really trying to make sure
Speaker 3: that they have everything prepared to be.
Speaker 4: Able to navigate it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now the Warriors are dealing with second tax aprons
Speaker 2: and all that.
Speaker 4: Hooplah.
Speaker 2: Will see what the Major League Baseball in the CBA
Speaker 2: is able to do to maybe put some restraints on
Speaker 2: the Dodgers moving forward. But blank the Dodgers, It's time
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Speaker 2: All right, wrapping up the last couple seconds of the
Speaker 2: Murf and Marcus Show. Going into extra innings this morning
Speaker 2: with my guy John Dickinson fresh out of the bullpen.
Speaker 2: Murph is off for the remainder of the week, so
Speaker 2: JD will be filling in with me today, tomorrow and
Speaker 2: on Friday. Plenty of topics to get into with forty
Speaker 2: nine ers training camp in the NFL Hall of Fame
Speaker 2: game starting tomorrow as well. Buser Posey joins us at
Speaker 2: seven thirty. But JD, it's been a fun hour and
Speaker 2: a half leading up to Giants baseball game. I know
Speaker 2: we got to throw to it soon, but always appreciate
Speaker 2: your time this morning.
Speaker 3: Yeah, brother, always great to be with you. We'll do
Speaker 3: it again tomorrow, and yeah, we'll react to the Giants.
Speaker 3: We get forty nine ers back on the practic field today,
Speaker 3: and we'll just continue to look ahead here into the
Speaker 3: We're approaching the dog days of August.
Speaker 2: Get us through the dog days of summer. What was
Speaker 2: that Walter Buster Posey at seven thirty tomorrow on the
Speaker 2: Giants Executive Show, recapping the trade deadline and talking about
Speaker 2: maybe Carson Wisenhunt's performance today after we saw Blade Tidwell
Speaker 2: get his first start in a Giants uniform yesterday, not
Speaker 2: making his first appearance, but his first start in the rotation.
Speaker 2: We'll see if him and Carson wisenhe I can maybe
Speaker 2: take a hold in some of these roster spots that
Speaker 2: are open for the next couple of seasons. But that's
Speaker 2: all for the Murph and Marcus Show this morning. Let's
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