WEBVTT - It's So Cool Until It Kills Us

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the

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<v Speaker 1>George Washington Broadcast Center.

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<v Speaker 2>Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 3>And now, here's Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, the rhythm of life is back.

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<v Speaker 4>Kids at school, 60 Minutes is new, NFL football games,

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<v Speaker 4>all that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Soon-to-be playoff baseball. Loving it all.

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<v Speaker 5>Excellent.

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<v Speaker 3>Excellent.

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<v Speaker 5>You could mournfully mourn the summer passing, but I like

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<v Speaker 5>your forward-looking take on the challenge attitude.

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<v Speaker 3>Way to go.

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<v Speaker 1>You got to look forward.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, you do.

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<v Speaker 1>What was I going to say?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh.

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<v Speaker 4>So Friday, as we talked about a lot, was the

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<v Speaker 4>25-year anniversary of 9-11, got a lot of coverage. The

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<v Speaker 4>day before, the 10th, was the one-year anniversary of the

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<v Speaker 4>assassination of Charlie Kirk, which is a horrifying event to some,

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<v Speaker 4>but a gleeful event to others, it turns out, which

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<v Speaker 4>is highly troubling. So where did they do this man-on-the-street stuff?

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<v Speaker 3>I believe it was in the Philadelphia environs.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure you could do it lots of different places

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<v Speaker 4>where they just ask some people what they felt about

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<v Speaker 4>the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what they had to say.

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<v Speaker 2>What are your thoughts on Charlie Kirk?

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<v Speaker 5>He got everything that was coming to him, and I

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<v Speaker 5>wish it had been longer.

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<v Speaker 2>So do you think it was good that he was assassinated?

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<v Speaker 4>I think it was hilarious that he was assassinated.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you feel about Charlie Kirk?

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<v Speaker 7>I feel fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think he had what was coming to

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<v Speaker 2>him personally. And why did he deserve to die?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, he did say that, you know, gun deaths, you

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<v Speaker 7>need at least one to make guns worth it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think his was it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think.

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<v Speaker 4>That sort of talk would have happened or gone unremarked

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<v Speaker 4>upon 20 years ago, no matter who it was that

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<v Speaker 4>got shot.

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<v Speaker 1>We just didn't talk that way back then. Back then.

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<v Speaker 1>Not that many years ago. Anyway, here's more of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Rest in hell. Do you condemn the assassination of Charlie Kirk? Condemn?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>When it happened, I didn't really care, to be honest.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not even going to lie. My reaction was to laugh.

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<v Speaker 2>And then when I saw the video, I was like, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, that was kind of my reaction.

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<v Speaker 4>Kind of speaking to what I was talking about earlier,

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<v Speaker 4>about young people have seen so much grotesque violence online,

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<v Speaker 4>it doesn't leave a mark at all.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was going to withhold my comments, other than... Well,

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<v Speaker 3>let's go ahead and play the last one. What do

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<v Speaker 3>you like to talk?

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<v Speaker 2>Why is it F. Charlie Kirk?

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<v Speaker 1>He's a racist.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad that n * * * a' s dead. F * * *

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie Kirk. How is he a racist? How is he

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<v Speaker 2>a racist? You a b * * * h, that's

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<v Speaker 2>not true. You know that?

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<v Speaker 1>How so? You a b * * * h, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not true, bro.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not talking to you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not the one walking away from a conversation.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so you got a handful of things going on there.

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<v Speaker 5>And to your point, I think one of them is

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<v Speaker 5>not only do they see horrifying death and bloodshed and

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<v Speaker 5>stuff online to the point that they become desensitized to.

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<v Speaker 3>It, but also.

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<v Speaker 5>When so much of your experience is online, human beings

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<v Speaker 5>become abstractions. They're kind of just Charlie Kirk was another

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<v Speaker 5>character on my screen. He does not have the reality. And,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, you're always talking about are we the last

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<v Speaker 5>generation and experienced life pre, you know, online life. If

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<v Speaker 5>I see someone die on a screen, my reaction is

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<v Speaker 5>based on my entire life's experience, which is experiencing human

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<v Speaker 5>beings as human beings, other than like TV sitcom characters.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of these kids, most of their experience of

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<v Speaker 5>other human beings is screen deep. And so they can't even,

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<v Speaker 5>even if they wanted to, they have a hard time

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<v Speaker 5>relating to an actual human being who felt a bullet

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<v Speaker 5>rip through his throat and realized he was going to

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<v Speaker 5>die in that moment, realized he would never see his

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<v Speaker 5>wife and children again. And his kids would grow up

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<v Speaker 5>without him. And he bled out on the pavement. They, they,

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<v Speaker 5>it's not that they don't want to appreciate that. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>not sure they can.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I don't think they can either. I know my

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<v Speaker 4>son can't and it disturbs me that he can't.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, and then you've got the indoctrination and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I threatened to do this.

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<v Speaker 3>I never did.

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<v Speaker 5>Um, And what I threaten to do is talk about

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<v Speaker 5>Mao Zedong in the Cultural Revolutions, the way they ensured obedience,

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<v Speaker 5>compliance with their policies. And it had to do with

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<v Speaker 5>dividing humanity into two groups, the good and the evil,

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<v Speaker 5>to grossly oversimplify it. But since the kids are getting

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<v Speaker 5>taught a lot of that woke stuff in school– they've

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<v Speaker 5>now equated, well, quoting, I can't remember who said this.

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<v Speaker 5>I should have written it down. It might've been James Lindsay,

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<v Speaker 5>but political disagreement is increasingly treated as a serious moral

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<v Speaker 5>offense rather than a simple difference of opinion. When you

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<v Speaker 5>see the world that way, punishing someone for holding different

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<v Speaker 5>views becomes a moral good. And that's a good explanation

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<v Speaker 5>of Mao's thing too. But yeah, so those people, young

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<v Speaker 5>people who are disgusting and horrifying to me, They were

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<v Speaker 5>taught Charlie Kirk was a murderously hateful character. Therefore, to

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<v Speaker 5>celebrate his assassinations like celebrating the fact that Hitler finally

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<v Speaker 5>killed himself in the bunker morally to them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's pretty troubling.

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<v Speaker 5>I'd rather demonize the people who taught them that than

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<v Speaker 5>to demonize the young dolts.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they didn't raise themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if there's any turning this around, but

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<v Speaker 4>I get, as I've said many, many times, I get

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<v Speaker 4>flipped off regularly, angrily flipped off, not even just like

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<v Speaker 4>a casual joking flip off because I see their face

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<v Speaker 4>and sometimes the just angry, F you, because I'm driving

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<v Speaker 4>a Tesla Cybertruck and They don't like the fact that

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<v Speaker 4>Elon helped Trump. I can't even wrap my head around

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<v Speaker 4>being that angry about what somebody else is driving.

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<v Speaker 1>But I get that on a regular basis, and it

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<v Speaker 1>makes me so disturbed.

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<v Speaker 4>Not because I give a crap what anybody thinks about

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<v Speaker 4>how I dress, how I drive, anything like that, but

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<v Speaker 4>just that people can get that angry about politics. As

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<v Speaker 4>I've said before, I guarantee you that for those people,

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<v Speaker 4>if if somebody was beating me down because of that,

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<v Speaker 4>they would think that was awesome. He got what he deserved.

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<v Speaker 4>Like they said about Charlie Kirk.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, that's not a political disagreement treated as a serious

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<v Speaker 5>moral offense.

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<v Speaker 1>That is not a good place for society to be.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no.

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<v Speaker 5>So, uh, a couple other exhibits, uh, in the prosecution

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<v Speaker 5>of the modern world, if you will. Um, and a

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<v Speaker 5>number of people have written about this, uh, filmmaker, Lexi Alexander,

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<v Speaker 5>who directed a movie called green street hooligans. That was, uh,

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<v Speaker 5>Daniel Radcliffe was in it, and I can't remember who else.

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<v Speaker 5>It's about hooliganism and alleged white nationalism in Britain and

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<v Speaker 5>that sort of thing. It was a pretty big deal,

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<v Speaker 5>and it's very, very well made. But when that poor

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<v Speaker 5>young woman, that young mother who just ended maternity leave

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<v Speaker 5>and went back to work for Bank of America got

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<v Speaker 5>stabbed to death on the street by that lunatic in

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<v Speaker 5>New York City, she celebrated it. She put out, uh,

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<v Speaker 5>memes of like the bat light, except instead of the bat, it's, uh,

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<v Speaker 5>Luigi Mangione celebrating that this woman had been stabbed because

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<v Speaker 5>she's one of the evildoers. This gal happens to be

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<v Speaker 5>Palestinian American for what that's worth.

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<v Speaker 3>Um, that's.

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<v Speaker 5>Bizarre in the true sense of the word. So strange

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<v Speaker 5>as to be difficult to comprehend. Um, That idea that,

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<v Speaker 5>and back to the whole political disagreement, is a serious

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<v Speaker 5>moral failing. And then she explained it. Israel doesn't care

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<v Speaker 5>about the woman who got killed. They care about the

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<v Speaker 5>positive rating Bank of America gave them in the middle

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<v Speaker 5>of a genocide. There is huge money at stake. Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>so a young mom bleeding out on the pavement is good. Okay, sorry,

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't really, I didn't follow you there. Here's another

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<v Speaker 5>article about how Barron Trump lives an extremely reclusive life

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<v Speaker 5>because of the assassination attempts on his dad. And also,

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<v Speaker 5>he'd grown close to Charlie Kirk. They were actual friends.

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<v Speaker 5>And so he more or less lives in hiding because

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<v Speaker 5>of the political violence and the number of both. There's

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<v Speaker 5>a specific Iranian plot against him. There's a $ 10 million

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<v Speaker 5>bounty on his head from Iran. And, you know, we

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<v Speaker 5>never got to it. I read the headline. They're now

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<v Speaker 5>hiring local criminals all over the world to do their bidding.

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<v Speaker 5>Like there was a case in Romania where they hired

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<v Speaker 5>some local gangsters to beat down an Iranian dissident. And

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<v Speaker 5>there was an incident, I think it was in France,

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<v Speaker 5>that was fairly similar. So, yeah, the poor, poor kid

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<v Speaker 5>has got, I mean, you know, all presidential kids, they're

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<v Speaker 5>protected and keep a low-ish profile. Well, like the Obama

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<v Speaker 5>girls went to a private school in Washington, D.C., but

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<v Speaker 5>they went to the damn school.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, yeah, I actually know someone who protected one of

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<v Speaker 4>the Bush daughters all through her college years, following her

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<v Speaker 4>around for part of her life. and bars and sorority houses,

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<v Speaker 4>stuff like that. But they didn't really live in fear.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, right, exactly. Yeah, it's just, oh, it was going

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<v Speaker 5>to bring me ultimately to this. Yet another poll, Americans

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<v Speaker 5>who find killing acceptable. One in six tell pollsters they're

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<v Speaker 5>okay with assassination. Then they go into the Brian Thompson thing.

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<v Speaker 5>You're ignorant at best, evil at worst.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess quickly following up on what I said about

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<v Speaker 1>ignorant at best, evil at worst.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, morons.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're okay with assassination, you.

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<v Speaker 4>See what happens is some people on the other side

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<v Speaker 4>start assassinating the men and women you like.

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<v Speaker 1>And then it's just a race to the bottom, you see,

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<v Speaker 1>is the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>That would stick with them better if they didn't view

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<v Speaker 5>people on the other side as evil.

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<v Speaker 3>But we're the good people.

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<v Speaker 5>So assassinating us would be totally different than assassinating the

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<v Speaker 5>evil people would be their point of view, which is

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<v Speaker 5>obviously the sort of thing that leads you down the

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<v Speaker 5>road you're describing. So an Emerson poll came out a

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<v Speaker 5>couple of weeks ago. It was asking about Luigi Mangione,

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<v Speaker 5>the deranged, misguided, barely 20-something idiot. Were his actions acceptable

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<v Speaker 5>or unacceptable? And 16.7% of respondents said his actions were

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<v Speaker 5>either completely acceptable or somewhat acceptable. This is not a fluke.

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<v Speaker 5>It's the same finding as the firm's 2024 poll, December

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<v Speaker 5>2024 poll. So about 17% or one out of six said,

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<v Speaker 5>And after 20 months, the public trial, national news coverage,

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<v Speaker 5>the number has held steady. Public opinion had every opportunity

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<v Speaker 5>to self-correct, and it hasn't. It means that Americans' tolerance

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<v Speaker 5>for political violence is becoming hardwired into the public consciousness,

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<v Speaker 5>they write. Let's see, this is Adrian Norman writing. And

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<v Speaker 5>the violence isn't limited to one type of victim, and

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<v Speaker 5>it isn't confined to the opinion polls. Federal prosecutors argued

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<v Speaker 5>in an August 2025 court filing that the killing of Mr.

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<v Speaker 5>Thompson helped inspire the mass shooting at the National Football

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<v Speaker 5>League headquarters a month prior.

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<v Speaker 3>Simply put, Mr.

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<v Speaker 5>Mangione hoped to normalize the use of violence to achieve

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<v Speaker 5>ideological or political objectives since the murder of certain quarters

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<v Speaker 5>of the public who openly identify as acolytes of the defendant.

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<v Speaker 5>have increasingly begun to view violence as an acceptable or

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<v Speaker 5>even necessary substitute for reasoned political disagreement. Well, and if

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<v Speaker 5>you tended not to believe that, if you were taught

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<v Speaker 5>every day in school or damn near every day that

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<v Speaker 5>their speech is violence, and we've talked about this before,

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<v Speaker 5>if speech is violence, then of course you can answer

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<v Speaker 5>it with violence because every human society recognizes the right

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<v Speaker 5>to self-defense. But To justify our violence, that's just in

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<v Speaker 5>response to speech. First, we've got to teach the kids

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<v Speaker 5>that their speech is violence. It goes right back to

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<v Speaker 5>the educational system and how it's been captured by leftist lunatics.

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<v Speaker 1>So a couple of tech things coming up.

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<v Speaker 4>Left-handers are hating the new foldable iPhone.

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<v Speaker 1>How I used AI in my summer.

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<v Speaker 3>Who do I sue?

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<v Speaker 4>Also, a tip I'm taking to look at your phone

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<v Speaker 4>less that I think might be working.

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<v Speaker 1>Looking at it less. All coming up.

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<v Speaker 3>Stay here. Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 2>The Armstrong and Getty Show.

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<v Speaker 7>When we look at the hardware design for the iPhone Duo,

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<v Speaker 7>you'll notice it has an asymmetrical design with sharp right

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<v Speaker 7>corners on the hinge side and soft rounded corners on

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<v Speaker 7>the outside.

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<v Speaker 1>And they do this intentionally.

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<v Speaker 7>So you can have a nice soft rounded edge resting

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<v Speaker 7>on your hand rather than a sharp corner stabbing into

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<v Speaker 7>your palm. But even worse than that, the iPhone Duo

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<v Speaker 7>also had a major software change because instead of having

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<v Speaker 7>your home screen dock, toolbars and app controls on the

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<v Speaker 7>bottom of your phone like they always were, now they're

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<v Speaker 7>gonna be on the right hand side. But if you're left-handed,

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<v Speaker 7>you're going to have a sharp right corner stabbing the

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<v Speaker 7>palm of your hand, and you're going to have to

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<v Speaker 7>reach all the way across an even wider phone just

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<v Speaker 7>to send a text message.

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<v Speaker 4>So there's some guy claiming that the new Apple foldable

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<v Speaker 4>iPhone is unfair to left-handers.

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<v Speaker 3>Apple stabs left-handers. That's my headline.

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<v Speaker 4>I've taken in a lot of these review videos on

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<v Speaker 4>different things over the last couple of years.

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<v Speaker 1>God, some of the.

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<v Speaker 4>so-called problems are so overblown in these reviews. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>you got to talk about something, but I did that

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<v Speaker 4>with a lot of vehicles I've purchased and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 4>And then you get the car and it's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>the cup holder's a little further up than I would

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<v Speaker 4>like it to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't imagine doing a 15 minute video about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, back to the tech thing.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think I want to get that iPhone because

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<v Speaker 4>I take in every TV show, movies, sports, football games,

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<v Speaker 4>everything on my phone. So it'd be handy for me

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<v Speaker 4>to have that screen.

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<v Speaker 1>Two things I've done.

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<v Speaker 4>I read a little piece in the New York Times

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<v Speaker 4>about ways to look at your phone less, and one

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<v Speaker 4>of them was to turn the picture to grayscale instead

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<v Speaker 4>of the colors, because part of the dopamine hit is

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<v Speaker 4>the lurid, bright, vivid colors that you get. So I

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<v Speaker 4>turned my phone to the grayscale, and it is much, much,

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<v Speaker 4>much less satisfying to look at.

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<v Speaker 2>How interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>I know.

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<v Speaker 4>I was surprised myself. It's just kind of like to

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<v Speaker 4>look at it is kind of what a letdown.

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<v Speaker 1>So where is that?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that in settings? We're in settings.

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<v Speaker 4>And the key is because sometimes you want the color,

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<v Speaker 4>like especially if you're doing photos or watching videos. So

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<v Speaker 4>I did the shortcut to where you triple click the

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<v Speaker 4>right hand button. I can switch it to color real

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<v Speaker 4>quick if I want to do a picture, then switch

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<v Speaker 4>it back to gray. So I'm going to keep my

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<v Speaker 4>phone that way from here on out because it is.

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<v Speaker 4>Definitely less stimulating and exciting to look at a gray phone.

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<v Speaker 1>One other tech thing.

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<v Speaker 4>For better or worse, I showed my son a way

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<v Speaker 4>to use AI for a homework assignment he had yesterday,

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<v Speaker 4>which I thought was pretty handy. He got this assignment

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<v Speaker 4>in English. He gets to pick a book to read,

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<v Speaker 4>but it had some limits on what books he could read.

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<v Speaker 4>It had to be a certain number of pages. It

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<v Speaker 4>had to be blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, all these lists.

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<v Speaker 4>I said, we could try this. I just took a

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<v Speaker 4>picture of it. Put it on Claude and said, my

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<v Speaker 4>freshman in high school needs to follow these rules for books,

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<v Speaker 4>suggest some books. And it suggested like 10 different kinds

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<v Speaker 4>of books. If you'd like this kind of book, if

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<v Speaker 4>you'd like this kind of book, if you'd like this

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<v Speaker 4>kind of book. And we picked Fahrenheit 451, Ray Bradbury

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<v Speaker 4>is the right page length and skill level and everything

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<v Speaker 4>like that. And I thought that was a really handy

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<v Speaker 4>way to use AI.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, yeah, definitely. Love it.

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<v Speaker 4>God, the way it can just take a picture of

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<v Speaker 4>something and it reads it for you and comprehends it

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<v Speaker 4>is amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's great up until the moment it kills us all.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I used it for hours yesterday trying to plan

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<v Speaker 5>a vacation using all sorts of different possibilities and scenarios

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<v Speaker 5>and combinations. It was wonderfully, wonderfully productive. And then we'll

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<v Speaker 5>all be dead, but we'll be productive until that moment.

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<v Speaker 4>Until it kills us, it is so cool.

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<v Speaker 1>More on the way. If you're missing this podcast, Armstrong

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<v Speaker 1>and Getty on demand.

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<v Speaker 5>Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 2>The Armstrong and Getty Show.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, we certainly need to begin to act urgently to

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<v Speaker 6>address the challenges that exist. And unfortunately, Republicans have abandoned

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<v Speaker 6>their responsibility. So under Speaker Mike Johnson, he killed a

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<v Speaker 6>bipartisan task force, this Congress, that was prepared to do

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<v Speaker 6>the serious work necessary to to try to erect the

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<v Speaker 6>guardrails to protect the health, the safety, the well-being of

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<v Speaker 6>the American people.

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<v Speaker 1>Talking about AI there.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's Hakeem Jeffries likely to be the Speaker of

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<v Speaker 4>the House soon.

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<v Speaker 3>These Republicans sound like monsters.

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<v Speaker 4>Saying Republicans have abandoned their responsibility around controlling AI. And

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<v Speaker 4>Barack Obama speaking to a group yesterday behind closed doors

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<v Speaker 4>apparently said we've got to make this a central issue.

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<v Speaker 4>For Democrats running for president and in Congress, and I

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<v Speaker 4>really am worried that this is going to turn into

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<v Speaker 4>and I don't even it could go either direction.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like the.

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<v Speaker 4>Masks thing or the vaccines thing. Somehow it gets established

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<v Speaker 4>that one side is for and one side is against.

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<v Speaker 4>And then it's everybody gets locked into their positions because

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<v Speaker 4>of their tribalism around their party. And the best example

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<v Speaker 4>is vaccines. For the past however many decades, it was

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<v Speaker 4>liberals who were anti-vaccine and Republicans calling them crazy for it.

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<v Speaker 4>But then when COVID hit, for a variety of reasons,

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<v Speaker 4>it got flipped.

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<v Speaker 1>So you were anti-Trump.

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<v Speaker 4>If you wanted to get vaccines and just, but if

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<v Speaker 4>that gets locked into AI where it's seen as a

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<v Speaker 4>partisan thing being for or against it, then we're really,

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<v Speaker 4>really doomed.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that doesn't happen.

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<v Speaker 5>When you ducked out fairly briefly last week to begin

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<v Speaker 5>your journey, your jury odyssey, I was talking about, it

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<v Speaker 5>had dawned on me the other day, how Directionality has

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<v Speaker 5>taken over our society. And it's a term I'd never

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<v Speaker 5>really even heard. Directionally, I agree with them. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>they're trying to rein in AI. But we've become so

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<v Speaker 5>tribal that you've got to go in the accepted direction

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<v Speaker 5>of your tribe, even if like a reasonable correction of

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<v Speaker 5>your course. Oh, we got this one wrong. We went

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<v Speaker 5>too far. This is actually hurting people. would be very,

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<v Speaker 5>very smart, and everybody can see it's right, but you

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<v Speaker 5>can't go directionally against it. And so you're right. We

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<v Speaker 5>risk a situation in which, you know, one gets coded

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<v Speaker 5>left and the other point of view on AI gets

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<v Speaker 5>coded right, and then I don't know, whichever side ends

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<v Speaker 5>up being pro-AI, says, well, yes, it killed 50 million

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<v Speaker 5>people in the Western U.S., but that's no reason to

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<v Speaker 5>go all liberal or vice versa.

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<v Speaker 3>That's no reason to side with the fascists. And oh, God,

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<v Speaker 3>it makes everybody so dumb.

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<v Speaker 4>So to present a different view on this than we

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<v Speaker 4>were talking about in hour one, I guess.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, can I talk about the politics again? Just real quick.

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<v Speaker 5>I can't remember who it was pointed out that the

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<v Speaker 5>Obama be afraid, be very afraid thing is straight out

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<v Speaker 5>of the Democrats playbook. And that whether it's COVID or

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<v Speaker 5>climate change is a big one. They go with the,

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<v Speaker 5>be afraid, be very afraid. You need to give us

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<v Speaker 5>this power and we will save you thing. And then

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<v Speaker 5>the doomsayers never end up being right, but they don't

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<v Speaker 5>get called to account for it.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's onto the next doom.

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<v Speaker 5>And by way of illustration, I was struck that, You know,

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<v Speaker 5>the matter, I'm sorry, the modern above the fold is

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<v Speaker 5>what is the New York Times website top few stories.

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<v Speaker 5>And this morning, number one, EPA is expected to erase

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<v Speaker 5>limits on climate pollution from power plants. Number two, six

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<v Speaker 5>strangers connected by disaster, devastating wildfires and storms, weather caused

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<v Speaker 5>by climate change.

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<v Speaker 3>Story three.

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<v Speaker 5>As the fight for a key climate goal falters, some

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<v Speaker 5>beginners fight for survival about these little island nations that

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<v Speaker 5>are going to be drowned and all the little children

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<v Speaker 5>will die painfully in front of their parents because of

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<v Speaker 5>climate change.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how they get power. It doesn't mean there's nothing

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<v Speaker 3>worth worrying about, but oh, my God.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I've ever clicked on a climate

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<v Speaker 1>story and I never will. But that's just me.

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<v Speaker 3>Sell your parka, buy some shorts.

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<v Speaker 4>But back to AI, to give the point of view

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<v Speaker 4>that I know some of you have, that this whole

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<v Speaker 4>CEOs of the big companies coming forward and saying it's

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<v Speaker 4>time to put up guardrails and for the government to

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<v Speaker 4>get involved and all that sort of stuff is either

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<v Speaker 4>overblown or it's just you're trying to lock in things

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<v Speaker 4>where they are now because you're ahead so that nobody

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<v Speaker 4>can compete against you. I don't think that's true, by

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<v Speaker 4>the way. I think they're for real worried and rightfully so,

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<v Speaker 4>and we're in for the shock of all of our

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<v Speaker 4>lives as a species.

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<v Speaker 3>And or both are true.

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<v Speaker 4>But so this guy, David Sachs, I don't know who

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<v Speaker 4>you are, if you know who he is, but he

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<v Speaker 4>is the main advisor to Donald Trump on AI. He's

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<v Speaker 4>also a super rich tech gazillionaire financial dude. Anyway, He

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<v Speaker 4>put out this over the weekend after Dario put out

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<v Speaker 4>his letter on Saturday about how the time is now

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<v Speaker 4>in the last six months. This has happened. It's almost

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<v Speaker 4>too late. David Sachs put this out. Stop pretending you

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<v Speaker 4>need anyone else's permission. Stop pretending antitrust law has to

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<v Speaker 4>be suspended so you can form a cartel. Stop pretending

0:24:28.560 --> 0:24:32.379
<v Speaker 4>you need a regulatory approval process that supersedes product liability.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop pretending... I.

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<v Speaker 4>Didn't even understand that thing, so I won't read it.

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<v Speaker 4>Stop pretending you need those same evaluators to police competitors

0:24:43.850 --> 0:24:46.280
<v Speaker 4>who aren't even at the frontier. Most of all, stop

0:24:46.320 --> 0:24:49.870
<v Speaker 4>pretending the motivation to slow down is purely altruistic. You

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<v Speaker 4>face massive product liability exposure if your products do the

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<v Speaker 4>sort of damage in a truly damaging cyber attack you're

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<v Speaker 4>talking about. The market already punishes models that behave in

0:25:01.650 --> 0:25:07.050
<v Speaker 4>unpredictable or unauthorized ways. You can do this anytime you

0:25:07.090 --> 0:25:09.290
<v Speaker 4>want to. You don't need the government. You don't need

0:25:09.350 --> 0:25:11.770
<v Speaker 4>anybody else. If you think it's bad, stop doing it,

0:25:12.510 --> 0:25:16.260
<v Speaker 4>is basically his message. You're at the forefront of it.

0:25:17.250 --> 0:25:17.890
<v Speaker 2>Stop then.

0:25:18.920 --> 0:25:20.379
<v Speaker 3>So that's holding you back.

0:25:20.880 --> 0:25:24.240
<v Speaker 5>That casts the the tech giants is the serial killer

0:25:24.600 --> 0:25:25.660
<v Speaker 5>who writes the police.

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<v Speaker 3>Stop me before I kill again.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

0:25:28.310 --> 0:25:29.410
<v Speaker 3>I can't stop myself.

0:25:30.369 --> 0:25:33.510
<v Speaker 4>Go ahead and pace the frontier. It's about the idea

0:25:33.570 --> 0:25:36.129
<v Speaker 4>that they're on the frontier edge. Well, if you're on

0:25:36.170 --> 0:25:38.530
<v Speaker 4>the front edge, then you can slow down the pace

0:25:38.869 --> 0:25:41.640
<v Speaker 4>if you want to. You're the one setting the pace. Currently,

0:25:41.940 --> 0:25:44.500
<v Speaker 4>the easiest way to not build super intelligence is for

0:25:44.540 --> 0:25:45.879
<v Speaker 4>you to agree not to build it.

0:25:48.080 --> 0:25:49.640
<v Speaker 3>Boy, the product liability thing.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, if you wiped out humanity, there are going

0:25:51.880 --> 0:25:54.010
<v Speaker 5>to be so many lawsuits if there are a few

0:25:54.030 --> 0:25:56.890
<v Speaker 5>lawyers left. I'm going to be so angry. I'm calling

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<v Speaker 5>my lawyer immediately. You're going to be on the hook

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<v Speaker 5>for huge damages.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you think of that angle of, what are

0:26:05.390 --> 0:26:09.689
<v Speaker 4>you doing? You and Sam Altman and Elon as the

0:26:09.800 --> 0:26:12.740
<v Speaker 4>three biggest deals. The only thing is that, so like,

0:26:12.780 --> 0:26:14.340
<v Speaker 4>that doesn't include Zuckerberg.

0:26:15.240 --> 0:26:16.949
<v Speaker 1>And they're spending... billions of.

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<v Speaker 4>Dollars to try to get ahead of those people that

0:26:18.890 --> 0:26:23.190
<v Speaker 4>they're they're currently behind or google because you'd have you

0:26:23.210 --> 0:26:26.330
<v Speaker 4>gotta have all the leaders on board or all you

0:26:26.369 --> 0:26:29.310
<v Speaker 4>do is allow them to get where you are currently

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<v Speaker 4>in probably like two months and then move forward on

0:26:32.300 --> 0:26:34.359
<v Speaker 4>down the road and then as always what.

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<v Speaker 5>About china yeah yeah like i pointed out though it's

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<v Speaker 5>possible both things are true they might actually be terrified

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<v Speaker 5>of the frankenstein monster they have created And they're afraid

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<v Speaker 5>to go any further in their experiments, and they just

0:26:50.520 --> 0:26:53.239
<v Speaker 5>want everybody to be held back some because they know

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<v Speaker 5>how scary this could be. And, by the way, that

0:26:56.180 --> 0:27:00.440
<v Speaker 5>would solidify their lead. It's possible both are true. That's

0:27:00.460 --> 0:27:01.030
<v Speaker 5>what makes this.

0:27:00.960 --> 0:27:03.750
<v Speaker 3>Stuff so difficult to come to a conclusion about.

0:27:04.130 --> 0:27:06.710
<v Speaker 4>I'll read the whole last paragraph of his screen because

0:27:06.750 --> 0:27:09.210
<v Speaker 4>it is pretty good. So go ahead and pace the frontier.

0:27:09.570 --> 0:27:11.889
<v Speaker 4>You're the one setting it. The easiest way not to

0:27:11.930 --> 0:27:14.710
<v Speaker 4>build superintelligence is for you to agree not to build it.

0:27:15.150 --> 0:27:19.320
<v Speaker 4>Demanding your preferred regulatory framework as the price of that

0:27:19.430 --> 0:27:22.740
<v Speaker 4>will look like blackmail of the public and the political system.

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<v Speaker 4>So just do it. If you do, you'll buy goodwill

0:27:26.660 --> 0:27:29.740
<v Speaker 4>for the next conversation. If you don't, we'll know this

0:27:29.780 --> 0:27:32.700
<v Speaker 4>was just another bid for regulatory capture or... or an

0:27:32.740 --> 0:27:34.080
<v Speaker 4>election season psyop.

0:27:37.090 --> 0:27:37.899
<v Speaker 3>Forceful stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>The problem is, like, if you're right, and you might be,

0:27:44.010 --> 0:27:47.770
<v Speaker 4>that they're scared of it, and they want regulatory capture,

0:27:48.750 --> 0:27:49.590
<v Speaker 4>they might not want.

0:27:49.470 --> 0:27:50.650
<v Speaker 1>Regulatory capture at all.

0:27:50.970 --> 0:27:54.870
<v Speaker 4>And it's surely that this is about to be completely

0:27:54.930 --> 0:27:55.470
<v Speaker 4>out of control.

0:27:55.510 --> 0:27:57.250
<v Speaker 1>Somebody needs to do something.

0:27:58.390 --> 0:28:01.250
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if I buy David Sachs' argument that, well,

0:28:01.310 --> 0:28:02.609
<v Speaker 4>you're the guys at the forefront.

0:28:02.790 --> 0:28:03.430
<v Speaker 1>Stop then.

0:28:03.450 --> 0:28:06.389
<v Speaker 4>Because Dario on a couple of the shows over the

0:28:06.430 --> 0:28:09.629
<v Speaker 4>weekend did talk about, you know, there's lots of competition

0:28:09.670 --> 0:28:12.600
<v Speaker 4>out there, including China. We need to have the world

0:28:12.710 --> 0:28:15.840
<v Speaker 4>come together and set up some sort of rules like

0:28:15.900 --> 0:28:19.180
<v Speaker 4>we did around nuclear power, for instance.

0:28:20.160 --> 0:28:20.580
<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Immediately.

0:28:23.020 --> 0:28:27.200
<v Speaker 3>Well, to quote our president, whoever wins AI wins.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't.

0:28:31.210 --> 0:28:34.450
<v Speaker 4>Well, he said, and I think this is a childish view,

0:28:35.410 --> 0:28:37.430
<v Speaker 4>but a lot of people have it, that there's way

0:28:37.490 --> 0:28:40.440
<v Speaker 4>more good that's going to come out than bad. Well,

0:28:40.520 --> 0:28:43.420
<v Speaker 4>if the bad is the end of all jobs and

0:28:43.480 --> 0:28:44.400
<v Speaker 4>everyone's dead.

0:28:45.180 --> 0:28:45.420
<v Speaker 3>Yes.

0:28:46.140 --> 0:28:48.200
<v Speaker 1>What possible good matters?

0:28:48.600 --> 0:28:50.330
<v Speaker 3>Well, first of all, if I'm dead, I don't care

0:28:50.370 --> 0:28:52.070
<v Speaker 3>if I'm unemployed. So true.

0:28:52.390 --> 0:28:52.670
<v Speaker 2>Anyway.

0:28:54.130 --> 0:28:54.910
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know.

0:28:54.930 --> 0:28:55.990
<v Speaker 1>There's no arguing that.

0:28:57.500 --> 0:28:58.860
<v Speaker 3>This stuff is.

0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:03.280
<v Speaker 5>Also overwhelming and complex and difficult to get to people's

0:29:03.340 --> 0:29:07.130
<v Speaker 5>actual motives. But I would say, as you pointed out earlier,

0:29:07.170 --> 0:29:10.850
<v Speaker 5>and I agree 100 percent, whether it's Dario or the

0:29:11.050 --> 0:29:14.830
<v Speaker 5>Harry Potter lookalike who blew the whistle last week.

0:29:14.650 --> 0:29:16.310
<v Speaker 3>Or whatever, whomever.

0:29:18.570 --> 0:29:20.630
<v Speaker 5>The idea, well, we just need to get together with

0:29:20.710 --> 0:29:23.160
<v Speaker 5>all the countries of the world and and come to

0:29:23.200 --> 0:29:27.310
<v Speaker 5>an understanding and agree to work together, including China. Who

0:29:27.370 --> 0:29:31.480
<v Speaker 5>is that one moron who said China is run by scientists?

0:29:32.160 --> 0:29:33.080
<v Speaker 3>Oh, my Lord.

0:29:33.100 --> 0:29:36.660
<v Speaker 1>So Dario said, we need to work with China.

0:29:36.680 --> 0:29:40.040
<v Speaker 4>And he said, I realize that's going to be very

0:29:40.100 --> 0:29:42.600
<v Speaker 4>difficult to get China on board and slowing down.

0:29:42.880 --> 0:29:44.280
<v Speaker 1>And that's above my pay grade.

0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:45.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:29:46.150 --> 0:29:48.410
<v Speaker 1>It is, obviously. The fact that you just.

0:29:48.310 --> 0:29:51.370
<v Speaker 4>Said that sentence out loud like that's doable means it's

0:29:51.430 --> 0:29:53.830
<v Speaker 4>above your pay grade as far as I'm concerned. You're

0:29:53.850 --> 0:29:56.990
<v Speaker 4>a computer genius. You know more about that than I could,

0:29:57.530 --> 0:30:00.170
<v Speaker 4>you know, ever get even like a half of 1%

0:30:00.170 --> 0:30:03.830
<v Speaker 4>toward or anything like that. But you're just laughably ignorant

0:30:03.870 --> 0:30:06.100
<v Speaker 4>in my mind if you think you're going to get

0:30:06.170 --> 0:30:09.780
<v Speaker 4>China to agree to some sort of slowdown on this

0:30:10.040 --> 0:30:11.290
<v Speaker 4>and you can get them to honor it.

0:30:13.020 --> 0:30:14.420
<v Speaker 1>I just don't even think that's an option.

0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:16.660
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the best we can do is choke off their

0:30:16.700 --> 0:30:18.800
<v Speaker 5>access to chips, and that's imperfect at best.

0:30:18.960 --> 0:30:19.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:30:20.140 --> 0:30:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Now, I was listening to one genius.

0:30:21.540 --> 0:30:24.120
<v Speaker 4>It might even have been Hinton, the so-called godfather of AI,

0:30:24.140 --> 0:30:25.820
<v Speaker 4>and there's a bunch of people they put that label on.

0:30:25.860 --> 0:30:34.440
<v Speaker 4>But this angle of ASI.

0:30:32.600 --> 0:30:36.500
<v Speaker 1>Or RSI, there's way too many letters.

0:30:36.640 --> 0:30:41.480
<v Speaker 4>That's the recurvent superintelligence where it folds back in on

0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:42.560
<v Speaker 4>itself and programs itself.

0:30:42.580 --> 0:30:43.380
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:30:43.820 --> 0:30:45.380
<v Speaker 1>Would be so bad for everyone.

0:30:45.940 --> 0:30:49.060
<v Speaker 4>It's kind of it really is like mutually assured destruction

0:30:49.080 --> 0:30:51.980
<v Speaker 4>that we had during the Cold War with the USSR,

0:30:52.400 --> 0:30:54.219
<v Speaker 4>where they didn't want to blow up the world any

0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:57.080
<v Speaker 4>more than we did. So we wouldn't start a big

0:30:57.120 --> 0:31:02.260
<v Speaker 4>nuclear war. If China is convinced that superintelligence is about

0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:03.660
<v Speaker 4>to take over and then you're not going to be

0:31:03.700 --> 0:31:05.420
<v Speaker 4>in charge, we're not going to be in charge. Nobody's

0:31:05.440 --> 0:31:09.370
<v Speaker 4>going to be in charge. President Xi probably doesn't want that.

0:31:09.670 --> 0:31:11.290
<v Speaker 4>That'd be the end of their rule.

0:31:11.910 --> 0:31:12.690
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, true.

0:31:12.710 --> 0:31:14.860
<v Speaker 5>And I don't want to be a bummer. I don't

0:31:14.880 --> 0:31:16.910
<v Speaker 5>want to scare the crap out of people. But if

0:31:16.970 --> 0:31:21.000
<v Speaker 5>you were to say to Xi Jinping, I have a

0:31:21.120 --> 0:31:25.520
<v Speaker 5>way for you to dominate the globe through AI. 100

0:31:25.520 --> 0:31:30.620
<v Speaker 5>million of your people will die, but you will dominate

0:31:30.660 --> 0:31:35.020
<v Speaker 5>the globe for the next century. Chinese style communism. Will

0:31:35.040 --> 0:31:37.240
<v Speaker 5>you take that deal? I think Xi Jinping would say yes.

0:31:37.860 --> 0:31:40.020
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he'd even have to think about it.

0:31:41.980 --> 0:31:42.220
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:49.890
<v Speaker 5>So that's not cool. Mention that to Dario Amodei.

0:31:51.090 --> 0:31:52.890
<v Speaker 1>I'd rather none of this was happening.

0:31:53.430 --> 0:31:53.710
<v Speaker 3>Sure.

0:31:54.770 --> 0:31:59.180
<v Speaker 4>But it's sure damned interesting. It is so damned interesting.

0:31:59.700 --> 0:32:02.140
<v Speaker 4>Watching mankind do this to itself.

0:32:03.520 --> 0:32:04.240
<v Speaker 3>Holy crap.

0:32:04.880 --> 0:32:08.020
<v Speaker 5>You mentioned Mark Zuckerberg, who's busy developing his pretend to

0:32:08.060 --> 0:32:10.940
<v Speaker 5>be transgender and wear my glasses into a locker room

0:32:10.960 --> 0:32:16.940
<v Speaker 5>to take videos of girls glasses. The perception of which

0:32:16.980 --> 0:32:19.700
<v Speaker 5>he's trying to counter by running.

0:32:19.720 --> 0:32:21.040
<v Speaker 3>All right. I admit it.

0:32:21.200 --> 0:32:23.640
<v Speaker 5>An unbelievably great commercial. It may have been during the

0:32:23.660 --> 0:32:30.720
<v Speaker 5>football yesterday. A blinded veteran wearing his glasses saying, hey, metaglasses,

0:32:30.760 --> 0:32:32.459
<v Speaker 5>can you read this for me? And of course, it's

0:32:32.500 --> 0:32:33.840
<v Speaker 5>a letter from his grandchild or.

0:32:33.820 --> 0:32:37.320
<v Speaker 3>Something like that. Oh, my God. Well, that is nice.

0:32:37.380 --> 0:32:40.280
<v Speaker 5>Metaclass is which direction is the flag so he and

0:32:40.320 --> 0:32:41.650
<v Speaker 5>his buddy can salute it.

0:32:42.180 --> 0:32:42.960
<v Speaker 3>Okay.

0:32:43.120 --> 0:32:45.050
<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen it, but that seems a little over

0:32:45.110 --> 0:32:45.490
<v Speaker 1>the top.

0:32:45.570 --> 0:32:48.810
<v Speaker 4>Given the reality of mostly it's going to be used

0:32:48.850 --> 0:32:51.550
<v Speaker 4>to take pictures of hot chicks without them knowing it.

0:32:52.030 --> 0:32:52.230
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:32:52.590 --> 0:32:56.860
<v Speaker 5>Standing on the upper balcony and looking down women's breasts is.

0:32:57.360 --> 0:32:57.900
<v Speaker 1>Right, exactly.

0:32:57.920 --> 0:33:00.260
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that'd be great, Zuckerberg. It was over the top,

0:33:00.280 --> 0:33:00.880
<v Speaker 3>but it was good.

0:33:01.020 --> 0:33:04.040
<v Speaker 4>If it was all blind veterans saying which direction is

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:05.940
<v Speaker 4>the flag, that would be fantastic.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes. Yes, I believe you, Mark. He is Satan. Anyway,

0:33:12.460 --> 0:33:15.180
<v Speaker 3>we've got much more to come. Can't wait. Fun stuff. Wow,

0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:18.440
<v Speaker 3>I've got to check that ad out. That is too much.

0:33:18.940 --> 0:33:21.040
<v Speaker 3>I know. It is so over the top, but it's effective.

0:33:21.060 --> 0:33:22.719
<v Speaker 1>I really don't want to step on this puppy, but

0:33:22.770 --> 0:33:25.470
<v Speaker 1>I can't see. Google Glasses, could you help me not

0:33:25.510 --> 0:33:26.410
<v Speaker 1>step on this puppy?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you want or do you want Google glass or

0:33:32.520 --> 0:33:34.260
<v Speaker 3>meta glasses? Yeah, great.

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<v Speaker 5>In a recent interview, 68-year-old Sharon Stone says she hasn't

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<v Speaker 3>True, the last time she uncrossed her legs, a moth

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<v Speaker 3>flew out. Oh, now, now.

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<v Speaker 1>So coarse. I don't think that actually happened.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no.

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<v Speaker 5>Surely, more intellectually satisfying jokery could could take place on

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<v Speaker 5>your show, Greg, please.

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<v Speaker 3>So, this is crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>You know who I heard say that the other day?

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<v Speaker 1>What's that? I don't know why Sharon Stone said that.

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<v Speaker 1>How old is she? 68? She must be single.

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0:35:33.360 --> 0:35:35.820
<v Speaker 4>he was on stage doing his stand-up routine, his latest special.

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<v Speaker 4>And he said, I haven't had sex in many, many years.

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<v Speaker 4>But I thought, wow, that's interesting. Coming out of that

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<v Speaker 4>weird thing you got caught doing or you'd ask women

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<v Speaker 4>to watch you you just have like.

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<v Speaker 5>Had to take a break i guess or something all

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<v Speaker 5>or nothing he's like an alcoholic i guess whoa that's

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<v Speaker 5>odd so um university of california system promised that this

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<v Speaker 5>is from the boston globe promised that 170 million dollars

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<v Speaker 5>in spending on a single digital infrastructure project would cut

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<v Speaker 5>administrative bloat by $ 750 million over its lifetime. That sounds

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<v Speaker 5>like a pretty good investment. Spend $ 170, save $ 750. Instead,

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<v Speaker 5>the project took seven years and ballooned to $ 942.

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<v Speaker 3>Million in cost.

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<v Speaker 5>And the finished product was so poorly designed and difficult

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<v Speaker 5>to use that an entirely new IT unit had to

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<v Speaker 5>be created just to keep the software functional. The savings

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<v Speaker 5>on staffing, which was the original intent, was zero. How

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<v Speaker 5>do you even spend a billion dollars on new software?

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<v Speaker 5>And what specialized billion-dollar software do they possibly need? If

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<v Speaker 5>a billion dollars are being spent, writes the Free Press,

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<v Speaker 5>I should hope there are no administrators at all after

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<v Speaker 5>it's done. They could have just hired a personal assistant

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<v Speaker 5>for each student at that rate.

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<v Speaker 1>No kidding.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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