Speaker 1: And we continue at one oh five in the afternoon.
Speaker 1: On the John Phillips Show, Mister Randy Wangs in Culver City.
Speaker 2: John d San Francisco City attorney is suing a corner
Speaker 2: store in the Tenderloin because they say they've been selling
Speaker 2: meth in there.
Speaker 3: We don't show no drugs. We don't we don't sell
Speaker 3: met they sell myth outside.
Speaker 1: Eight hundred two two two five two two two is
Speaker 1: a telephone number? What eight hundred two two two five
Speaker 1: two two two. Well, As former California Attorney General Javier
Speaker 1: Bessera sees a bump in the polls. The knives are
Speaker 1: being sharpened and out for him.
Speaker 2: Wait, are you sure that's how you pronounce his name?
Speaker 1: Grampy Joe for.
Speaker 4: Secretary of Health and Educations over I nominated Javier Bakaria.
Speaker 1: I stand corrected.
Speaker 5: Scrub it.
Speaker 2: A whole bunch of peop ball are starting to pick
Speaker 2: through Javier Besera's record as Attorney General and as Secretary
Speaker 2: of HJHS, and some of his colleagues aren't fans.
Speaker 1: Well. Apparently, when he was Secretary of Health and Human Services,
Speaker 1: he used to show up to meetings totally unprepared. Biden
Speaker 1: would ask him questions and he wouldn't know the answer
Speaker 1: to anything.
Speaker 2: Based on the interviews that we've seen Bessarah in and
Speaker 2: the debates we've seen Bessarah in that tracks. For more
Speaker 2: on this, we go to CBSLA.
Speaker 1: The governor's race and being a front runner means being
Speaker 1: a target.
Speaker 5: Democrat.
Speaker 1: Havierbasserra is fending off attext and it's.
Speaker 6: Not just from his rivals, but also from his former
Speaker 6: coworkers in the White House. CBSLA political reporter Tom Waite
Speaker 6: is here to explain.
Speaker 7: And it just heats up every day. Right, people with
Speaker 7: their ballots are voting, So all these kind of daily
Speaker 7: sort of news cycles, they matter because people are making choices.
Speaker 7: So Passara's pull numbers are on the rise.
Speaker 1: They have been for the past few weeks.
Speaker 7: As you becomes more of a threat, as Rude band
Speaker 7: Wan were saying, his opponents are taking more shots. What
Speaker 7: he may not have expected was that his former White
Speaker 7: House colleagues would be piling on.
Speaker 2: In fact, I'm looking up at the TV today and
Speaker 2: every commercial is either a Javi or Basera commercial or
Speaker 2: a Tom Steier commercial saying that Javi or Basera lost
Speaker 2: eighty thousand migrants.
Speaker 1: They must really hate him too, because typically when something
Speaker 1: like this happens, they just plant negative stories about you
Speaker 1: and maybe talk to the reporter off the record. They're
Speaker 1: going on the record saying he was awful.
Speaker 7: As Democrat Javier Besserra's poll numbers rise in the gubernatorial race,
Speaker 7: so do the attacks on his candidacy, including fellow Democrats
Speaker 7: at the debates.
Speaker 8: Antonio is absolutely right about the secretary's failure on the
Speaker 8: immigration issue.
Speaker 1: There is a direct one, and other Dems.
Speaker 2: Mayhe I think it's over, buddy.
Speaker 1: He keeps moving up in the polls, but man, it's
Speaker 1: inch by inch.
Speaker 7: And other Dems are piling on too. Thursday, Politico reported
Speaker 7: that a half dozen former Biden administration officials who worked
Speaker 7: with Bisera are anonymously mocking his front runner status.
Speaker 1: Could you imagine what those text groups must be like.
Speaker 1: I wonder what emojis they're using. I know what emojis
Speaker 1: they use for swallwell.
Speaker 7: One telling Politico quote it gets the biggest political laugh
Speaker 7: every time we send around a poll. According to Politico,
Speaker 7: the whispers claim as Health and Human Services Secretary Biserah
Speaker 7: bungled the COVID response, a migrant health, crisis at the border,
Speaker 7: and other issues.
Speaker 9: Feel like it's a little too soon for the Biden
Speaker 9: people to be lecturing on. You know what California voter
Speaker 9: should be doing. These are officials, some of whom you know,
Speaker 9: we're kind of hiding from the country, Biden's deterioration.
Speaker 7: The business.
Speaker 1: Yeah right. I love how they're still pretending is if
Speaker 1: no one knew he was senile.
Speaker 7: The Bisara campaign is blasting those claims and provided statements
Speaker 7: of support from former Biden administration officials like former Energy
Speaker 7: Secretary Jennifer Granholm. Even a veteran California Republican strategist is
Speaker 7: minimizing the claims.
Speaker 10: Unless the former president were to come on say something,
Speaker 10: I don't think any of this breaks.
Speaker 2: The former president doesn't know who he is, and by
Speaker 2: the way, didn't know who he was on day one
Speaker 2: and throughout the Biden term would constantly confuse the names
Speaker 2: Bessara and majorcis.
Speaker 10: Unless the former president were to come on say something,
Speaker 10: I don't think any of this breaks through. The only
Speaker 10: way to change the trajectory of the race to have
Speaker 10: something swallwell size, can we.
Speaker 2: Not make that a phrase?
Speaker 1: Well, we haven't seen the tapes yet, so we can't
Speaker 1: really comment on that.
Speaker 7: The candidates have gathered for three debates over the course
Speaker 7: of the last two weeks, including the showdown CBS California
Speaker 7: and Pomona College hosted last week. New polling is out
Speaker 7: every day, many of them showing support coalescing behind the
Speaker 7: Sarah for the Democrats and Steve Hilton on the Republican side.
Speaker 11: Steve Hilton is just a more television friendly.
Speaker 1: Pius A way, how is it that we haven't seen
Speaker 1: the Swalwell sex tapes out yet? I have a plane
Speaker 1: trip tomorrow and I need something to watch. Well, if
Speaker 1: they're not out by tomorrow and you're not able to
Speaker 1: watch the Swallwell sex tapes that have been promised that
Speaker 1: you thought we're going to be delivered, I guess you're
Speaker 1: just gonna have to log into your HBO Max account
Speaker 1: and check out a little heated rivalry.
Speaker 12: Why do you have to watch porn in the living room?
Speaker 1: You think they'll cut me off with the booze on
Speaker 1: the plane if I do that.
Speaker 11: Maybe Steve Hilton is just a more television friendly personality.
Speaker 11: The race is.
Speaker 2: Still Yeah, Bianco has resting bitch face. I said it.
Speaker 11: Steve Hilton is just a more television friendly personality. The
Speaker 11: race is still fluid. Be Sarah's ahead right now, but
Speaker 11: not by a huge margin. There's still an opportunity for
Speaker 11: other candidates to pull up. Keep an eye on mat Man.
Speaker 7: A staggering statistic in the race Tom Steyer's campaign spending.
Speaker 7: He's poured more than one hundred and fifty million dollars
Speaker 7: of his own fortune into the campaign. He led Democrats.
Speaker 2: Do you know how many medical taxi cab rides?
Speaker 13: That is?
Speaker 1: I am still perplexed that there's an audience for that.
Speaker 1: The crowd that thinks it should be illegal to be
Speaker 1: a billion there is getting behind Tom Steyer.
Speaker 2: Doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
Speaker 7: Led Democrats in some polls for a while, but has
Speaker 7: now slipped from the top. So polls change a lot
Speaker 7: day to day.
Speaker 2: We'll see where this goes.
Speaker 5: We're seeing it happen right now.
Speaker 6: Thank you, Tom Well for much more on the June
Speaker 6: primary and the people wanting your vote. Go to CPSLA
Speaker 6: dot com slash Voter's guide to watch our candidate interviews
Speaker 6: and compare candidates side by side.
Speaker 2: So there you go. Everyone's going after Besera. Because Besara
Speaker 2: keeps going up in the polls, I think we're at
Speaker 2: a point where there is a ceiling for how many
Speaker 2: people will vote for Tom Steyer. I don't think I've
Speaker 2: seen him go above fifteen percent in any poll, and
Speaker 2: now there are polls showing Besera in the twenties.
Speaker 1: Well, and I think the same thing is true for
Speaker 1: Katie Porter, because have you noticed that even the people
Speaker 1: who like her reference the fact that she's a monster,
Speaker 1: including the cod Save Up, Go Ahead Katie Dinner, including
Speaker 1: the pod Save America guy and the ladies on the View.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they all prefer this Katie out of my shot.
Speaker 2: That's what the kind of energy they thought was going
Speaker 2: to go into these debates.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 1: So that's the latest on the goobernatorial campaign. But we
Speaker 1: also have an LA mayor's race going on, and fresh
Speaker 1: off the heels of his successful debate performance against incumbent
Speaker 1: Karen Bass and Socialist councilwoman Nitia Rahman, Spencer Pratt has
Speaker 1: campaign ads that are now going viral.
Speaker 2: And it's because they are completely generated by AI and
Speaker 2: one of them that is going everywhere. I can't tell
Speaker 2: you the amount of people that have emailed it to us.
Speaker 2: It's Spencer Pratt is Batman and Karen Bass is the joker,
Speaker 2: and Gavin Newsom is French Royalty eating cake. For more
Speaker 2: on the implications of the Spencer Pratt AI ads here
Speaker 2: is CBS Sacramento.
Speaker 8: The Badman inspired AI political ad is going viral and
Speaker 8: it's stirring up plenty of talk.
Speaker 2: At one point, all the people in the AI ads
Speaker 2: start throwing tomatoes at Karen Bass and she doesn't like it.
Speaker 14: I love it and you can see why.
Speaker 8: Thanks for joining us here at six.
Speaker 4: I'm Tony Lopez and I'm Marley Ginter.
Speaker 7: Well.
Speaker 15: That video depicts California's politicians as comic style super villains. Well,
Speaker 15: former reality star turned LA mayoral candidate Spencer Pratt steps
Speaker 15: in to save the city video.
Speaker 2: He's got another one out where Karen Bass is a dictator.
Speaker 2: It's interesting, Well, didn't Fidel Castro bring her into politics?
Speaker 2: That is true.
Speaker 8: Video is also raising questions about the ethics of using
Speaker 8: AI for political ads.
Speaker 15: GBS thirteen Steve Large is live at the Capitol with
Speaker 15: that video message and how AI is really transforming campaigns
Speaker 15: right now?
Speaker 16: Steve, Yeah, we all know now that the future of
Speaker 16: AI is really here. This video shows a candidate as Batman,
Speaker 16: an incumbent as the joker, and raises the question when
Speaker 16: is the joke on the voter?
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think anyone's going to watch that video
Speaker 2: and think it's real.
Speaker 1: No. No, And it also just goes to show you
Speaker 1: that being a political strategist or a political consultant is
Speaker 1: another job that AI is going to eliminate, because I
Speaker 1: have seen pictures of the shoots where they develop these
Speaker 1: campaign ads and there's like fifteen or twenty people there. Well,
Speaker 1: now that a candidate can do it on a shoe
Speaker 1: string budget with AI, you don't need to raise that
Speaker 1: kind of money anymore to get a campaign ad out there.
Speaker 1: It could be just one person with a laptop.
Speaker 17: LA Mayor Karen Bass portrayed as a scary villain to
Speaker 17: a good viewer, Governor Gavin Newsom as French Royalty eating Kate.
Speaker 2: The technology is getting scary. It wasn't this good a
Speaker 2: year ago.
Speaker 17: And former reality TV star turned LA mayoral candidate Spencer
Speaker 17: Pratt as Batman saving his city and the state from
Speaker 17: a comic book Tyranny, all using artificial intelligence.
Speaker 1: Is this a good thing or a bad thing.
Speaker 18: Well, I think it depends on your perspective.
Speaker 17: From Indy Romero is the founder of the nonpartisan Center
Speaker 17: for Inclusive Democracy and says, the viral video is easy
Speaker 17: for most voters to tell. It's not real.
Speaker 6: As far as we know, Spencer Price is not Batman.
Speaker 2: Could be. We don't know what he does late at night.
Speaker 1: I love the fact that you needed a bunch of
Speaker 1: college degrees in a position on a board to make
Speaker 1: that stay.
Speaker 2: As far as we know, Spencer Pratt is not Batman.
Speaker 2: Adam West is Batman was Batman.
Speaker 17: The video was created by filmmaker Charles Kerran, not a
Speaker 17: political campaign committee, and Kerran has not said who paid
Speaker 17: for the work. New California state law and acted in
Speaker 17: twenty twenty five, would require disclosure of the use of
Speaker 17: artificial intelligence in campaign advertisements.
Speaker 2: Well, and that specifically for things like deep fakes, where
Speaker 2: they're really trying to manipulate someone into thinking someone said
Speaker 2: something that they didn't say. This is not that. This
Speaker 2: is satire in one of its best forms.
Speaker 17: Under certain circumstances to root out deep fake deception.
Speaker 19: The Spencer Pratt spot is exactly what AI should be,
Speaker 19: which is using innovation and technology to make an interesting
Speaker 19: ad that is not trying to fool voters.
Speaker 17: Republican strategist tad Berg runs political cares and is concerned
Speaker 17: AI in the hands of bad acting political operatives can
Speaker 17: be used to deceive voters.
Speaker 2: Or are you worried about that your consulting firms about
Speaker 2: to go out of business?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because think about this. If one guy on a
Speaker 1: laptop can create an AD that goes viral, it's all
Speaker 1: over x it's all over Facebook, it's all over Instagram.
Speaker 1: People are texting each other, texting it to each other,
Speaker 1: they're posting it on their social media pages. You don't
Speaker 1: need Tom Steyer's money to get a message out anymore.
Speaker 1: All you need is a message and something clever that
Speaker 1: can be done for pennies. This means that over the
Speaker 1: next few cycles, the amount of money that it's going
Speaker 1: to take to make a campaign or a candidate viral
Speaker 1: is going to change dramatically, and the cost is going
Speaker 1: to come down by a lot.
Speaker 19: So where they've literally changed the world of elected officials
Speaker 19: who are speaking to.
Speaker 2: Wether Way, we're calling this an AD, but I don't
Speaker 2: think they're trying to put this in a thirty second
Speaker 2: form to air on KTLA.
Speaker 1: No, No, I haven't seen anyone by time. They haven't
Speaker 1: bought time on this program. They haven't bought time on
Speaker 1: the channels I have going on in the background. I
Speaker 1: think this was just someone fooling around on their laptop
Speaker 1: and they put it out on social media because they
Speaker 1: thought it was funny, and then people just shared it
Speaker 1: on their own.
Speaker 19: This was very organic of elected officials who were speaking
Speaker 19: to change the meaning.
Speaker 17: The use of AI in this La mayor's race.
Speaker 18: Did you know that wasn't real?
Speaker 2: And do you believe that it wasn't real?
Speaker 17: Raising the campaign question? Without the comic book fantasy of
Speaker 17: the Batman and Joker, would voters be full?
Speaker 2: You know, there probably is a voter out there that
Speaker 2: thinks that ads real.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you there are people out there who have
Speaker 1: no clue that Eric's wal Wells an accused rapist and
Speaker 1: he is going to get thousands of votes.
Speaker 16: Now, it's the Fair Political Practices Commission that enforces AI rules.
Speaker 16: They have asked the legislature for more money so that
Speaker 16: they can help root out AI, and they say they've
Speaker 16: gotten some allegations of misuse of AI, but so far
Speaker 16: no public violations have been reported.
Speaker 2: Do you remember when the Katie Porter Julie Watts video
Speaker 2: first came out, people started messing with that with AI
Speaker 2: where they were able to manipulate that footage and make
Speaker 2: it look like she was playing patty Cake with Julie
Speaker 2: Watts and of course dumping potatoes on Julie Watts. Oh,
Speaker 2: there were some videos that had Katie Porter hitting her no.
Speaker 1: To the point to where Julie Watts actually had to
Speaker 1: put together a rap about all of the deep fake
Speaker 1: AI videos.
Speaker 2: That was six months ago. The technology has advanced way
Speaker 2: faster than anyone thought it could, and I'm here for it,
Speaker 2: well until it takes our jobs.
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Speaker 1: It's not so uh I eight hundred two two two
Speaker 1: five two two two is telephone number one eight hundred
Speaker 1: two two two five two two two. Well, Randy, we
Speaker 1: have an update on a story that we brought to
Speaker 1: you some weeks ago involving home most people who are
Speaker 1: allegedly being paid to sign voter petition not as themselves
Speaker 1: but as other people.
Speaker 2: This was, of course, originally uncovered by our friend JJ
Speaker 2: Smith up in the Tenderloin and it went everywhere. So
Speaker 2: Dan Noys teamed up with JJ Smith on an unrelated story.
Speaker 2: Noticed a car with a whole bunch of ballot petitions
Speaker 2: just sitting on the windshield, and that's where dan Ney's
Speaker 2: got into a little bit of a verbal argument with
Speaker 2: the guy who was obviously paying the homeless to sign
Speaker 2: those petitions. Well, they have finally identified that guy and
Speaker 2: he's a grifter from Detroit.
Speaker 1: You don't say for more.
Speaker 2: Here is ABC seven in the Bay and the always
Speaker 2: awesome Dan Neis.
Speaker 13: We have finally been able to identify this man who
Speaker 13: took a swipe at the ABC seven Newsy team.
Speaker 5: As you can see, we.
Speaker 13: Were questioning him about allegations that he paid homeless to
Speaker 13: sign other people's names on petitions against the Bill Millionaire's tex.
Speaker 16: Im reporter Dan Noise is here with the latest on
Speaker 16: that viral video that you were one of.
Speaker 14: The stars of Dan Wow and Daniel for my report
Speaker 14: last month.
Speaker 20: I had a hard time identifying that man, but after
Speaker 20: the story aired, I started getting messages from across the country.
Speaker 20: I was investigating a different story in San Francisco's Tenderloin
Speaker 20: when I saw this woman with petitions spread across the
Speaker 20: hood of a car. I approached and started taking pictures
Speaker 20: of the documents when a man emerged from the passenger seat.
Speaker 21: Violate my privacy rights.
Speaker 5: Stay away from my car.
Speaker 1: If apparently it's illegal to take pictures in public.
Speaker 21: Violate my privacy rights. Stay away from my car. If
Speaker 21: you can see this viole my privacy rights. If you
Speaker 21: can see this on the street, if you can see
Speaker 21: one on the street, I can see those petitions right
Speaker 21: there on the street.
Speaker 5: They right there.
Speaker 1: They mind, they're mine, they're yours.
Speaker 14: Yeah, okay, are you paying people?
Speaker 20: Are you paying people? Neighborhood advocate JJ Smith had already
Speaker 20: captured video of the man and his partner paying a
Speaker 20: homeless couple five dollars each to sign petitions in other
Speaker 20: people's names.
Speaker 2: JJ's got those meta ray bands and they're full and everybody, Oh,
Speaker 2: yes they are.
Speaker 14: Smith asked the man.
Speaker 5: You fight hollis for doing it? Which one can you write?
Speaker 18: Neely?
Speaker 14: Can I write neatly?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: You see, JJ got invited to the White House.
Speaker 5: Oh did he?
Speaker 21: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I don't know when that's happening, but oh boy.
Speaker 1: Maybe he's staying in the Lincoln bedroom.
Speaker 20: After our confrontation, I tried to identify the man, checked
Speaker 20: the license plate, ran facial recognition, but could not confirm
Speaker 20: his name. Then our story went viral and I got
Speaker 20: a message from a signature gatherer living in the Midwest.
Speaker 22: You watched the story and you recognized him.
Speaker 18: Yes, I recognized him, and I recognized him immediately.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's not the guy's voice.
Speaker 1: No, But instead, every single person who's interviewed by the
Speaker 1: local news acts as if they're in the witness protection program.
Speaker 2: But instead of doing the old school disguising somebody's voice,
Speaker 2: they literally did the interview, took the transcript of what
Speaker 2: the witness said, and used an AI voice.
Speaker 1: They should have used the Queen of England.
Speaker 22: You watched the story and you recognized him?
Speaker 18: Yes, I recognized him, and I recognized him immediately.
Speaker 20: He doesn't want to show his face or use his name.
Speaker 20: He also asked that I replace his voice with a
Speaker 20: computer generated one.
Speaker 2: He says, guy's gone for extra levels of protection because
Speaker 2: he doesn't want anyone thinking he's a rat.
Speaker 1: I wonder if he's in a hotel under an assumed name.
Speaker 20: He says the signature gathering community is small and that
Speaker 20: he has seen Phil Brunson on other jobs.
Speaker 22: When you saw our story, what was your reaction.
Speaker 18: I was upset.
Speaker 2: See the AI can't really do the inflection properly.
Speaker 18: I was upset.
Speaker 1: This guy may have a comical accent.
Speaker 2: It's possible.
Speaker 18: I was upset. There's a lot of petitioners that are
Speaker 18: upset because our job is to go out there legally
Speaker 18: and do it the right way. You never beat the system.
Speaker 2: Something that maybe people aren't aware of is how many
Speaker 2: signature gatherers are, like from out of state and they
Speaker 2: just travel around the country and this is their job.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because different states have elections at different times.
Speaker 1: So if you're in that business, you have to go
Speaker 1: where the jobs are, you have to go where the
Speaker 1: money is.
Speaker 18: You never beat the system. It never happens. You just
Speaker 18: get caught, you might as well just do it the
Speaker 18: right way.
Speaker 20: The signature gather appointed me to Philip DeShawn. Brunson's social
Speaker 20: media and a background check shows that he is fifty
Speaker 20: years old, living in Detroit, with a criminal history. He
Speaker 20: spent time in prison.
Speaker 1: You don't say, and I thought he was a fine,
Speaker 1: upstanding person this whole time.
Speaker 20: Brunson is again getting attention from law enforcement. Secretary of
Speaker 20: State Shirley Weber is California's chief elections officer.
Speaker 14: Her spokesperson says.
Speaker 2: Of course she's not going to talk.
Speaker 1: No, she never does, even when she screws everything up,
Speaker 1: which is all the time.
Speaker 14: They have reviewed our video and that an investigation is ongoing. Quote.
Speaker 20: We are continuing to work closely with law enforcement to
Speaker 20: hold those who abuse the initiative process accountable.
Speaker 23: Like any business, Dan, they're bad actors. You know, in
Speaker 23: every industry has to take steps throughtout bad actors.
Speaker 5: It's no different here.
Speaker 20: Brandon Castillo has been running ballot measure campaigns for some
Speaker 20: twenty five years.
Speaker 14: He's not involved in either.
Speaker 2: I wonder how many of those were kidney bills.
Speaker 20: He's not involved in either side of the billionaire tax issue.
Speaker 20: He says signature gathering could be so lucrative that people
Speaker 20: travel state to state. Online groups post where the jobs
Speaker 20: are and what they're paying the anti billionaire tax.
Speaker 2: I gotta say the whole concept to paid signature gathering,
Speaker 2: I'm not a fan of.
Speaker 1: Well, how often are you exiting a grocery store and
Speaker 1: they come up to you and they have a honey
Speaker 1: trap It is, hey sign this petition to protect Prop thirteen?
Speaker 1: Say you do it, and then they go, okay, we
Speaker 1: have this other one about a kidney bill, and then
Speaker 1: they start pressuring you to sign that one too because
Speaker 1: they have a live one.
Speaker 5: So if they're.
Speaker 1: Gathering signatures for five or six petitions and they lured
Speaker 1: you in with one that has broad public support, they
Speaker 1: just expect that you're going to stand there and sign
Speaker 1: them all, and then you're worth like one hundred bucks.
Speaker 14: The Anti Billionaire Tax group paid fifteen dollars a signature.
Speaker 14: Some of these folks I've heard are making.
Speaker 2: Yes, the billionaires that don't want to get taxed. They
Speaker 2: were spending all kinds of money on paid signature gathering
Speaker 2: to get their anti billionaire tax on the ballot, including
Speaker 2: to some of these firms that we're using less than
Speaker 2: legal methods of getting those signs natures.
Speaker 1: And here's what I'm sure happens. And it's not just
Speaker 1: for the Billionaires Tax. I'm sure it goes for all
Speaker 1: of them. You just know that you need a certain
Speaker 1: number of signatures, so you go to one of these
Speaker 1: firms and you hire them. It's not like the people
Speaker 1: are working in house for you and you're the one
Speaker 1: that tells them to go out and be unethical. You
Speaker 1: just hire another company and you assume that what they're
Speaker 1: doing is legal because they have a business license. They're
Speaker 1: certainly someone who has done this before for other initiatives,
Speaker 1: and you just pay them per signature.
Speaker 20: The Anti Billionaire Tax group paid fifteen dollars a signature.
Speaker 23: Some of these folks I've heard are making, you know,
Speaker 23: hundreds of thousands of dollars over the course of a
Speaker 23: year or even in a short season where they're collecting.
Speaker 23: You know, just do the math. If you stand in
Speaker 23: front of a store and you get one hundred signatures
Speaker 23: at ten bucks a pop, you know, that's a pretty
Speaker 23: good chunk of money.
Speaker 20: Group sponsoring ballot measures check the validity of signatures and
Speaker 20: so do county election offices.
Speaker 24: So when we receive the petition and we have the signatures.
Speaker 20: Jim Irizari walked me through the process for San Mateo County.
Speaker 20: Every signature on a petition is digitized and then compared
Speaker 20: to that voter signatures from past elections. Even a more
Speaker 20: popular raceis with hundreds of thousands of ballots each get
Speaker 20: scanned by the human eye.
Speaker 24: We will have a person look at every one of
Speaker 24: those signatures and compare them to.
Speaker 14: The voter registration card or the history on that card.
Speaker 2: I'm glad they do the history because I'll tell you
Speaker 2: right now, my signature looks nothing like it did when
Speaker 2: I was eighteen and filled out that voter registration card.
Speaker 1: Oh no, it changes over time.
Speaker 2: I gave up a long time ago, and now I
Speaker 2: just do a squiggle R, SQUIGGLEW. Seriously, can anybody in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six that's not an English major even do cursive.
Speaker 1: No, which is why maybe they look at it. But
Speaker 1: how many ballots do they actually throw out because the
Speaker 1: signatures don't match.
Speaker 24: For prior signatures that we've reviewed, even when is three
Speaker 24: hundred thousand signatures, Even if those when three hundred thousand signatures.
Speaker 24: We hire anywhere between fifteen to twenty people just to
Speaker 24: do that. That are signature.
Speaker 14: Verifiers here, as already tells me.
Speaker 20: If they come upon a signature gatherer or petitioned circulator
Speaker 20: as they're called, who appears to be cheating.
Speaker 2: They're certified chicken scratch experts.
Speaker 1: By the way, I don't even think AI can do
Speaker 1: that yet, verify a signature.
Speaker 20: Her as Alrea tells me, if they come upon a
Speaker 20: signature gatherer or petitioned circulator as they're called, who appears
Speaker 20: to be cheating, they'll contact law enforcement.
Speaker 24: So the greatest danger we have here is undermining the
Speaker 24: integrity of the electoral process. That's why it is a
Speaker 24: felony to do that, and also the circulator that is
Speaker 24: violating the law will go to jail for that.
Speaker 20: The group called Building a Better California is sponsoring the
Speaker 20: anti billionaire tax measure. A spokesperson says, because of the
Speaker 20: item report, they instructed our campaign's signature contractor to screen
Speaker 20: out any and all signatures submitted by mister Brunson, but
Speaker 20: so far they haven't found any quote. We think it's
Speaker 20: likely that mister Brunson got scared off by the fact
Speaker 20: that he was featured in the ABC seven story.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's definitely possible. Once he realized who Dan Noys was,
Speaker 2: he knew that if he turned in those signatures, those
Speaker 2: obviously fraudulent signatures, he was going back to prison probably.
Speaker 20: The group said they also have a zero tolerance policy
Speaker 20: against any type of fraud. The San Francisco Die's office
Speaker 20: confirms they have received a referral, but won't comment on
Speaker 20: the status of this case. Now, I left messages on
Speaker 20: brunson social media, his email accounts, and.
Speaker 2: Thus he slid into his DMS.
Speaker 5: Dan.
Speaker 2: I don't think he's going to respond his.
Speaker 20: Email accounts and phone numbers, but have received no response
Speaker 20: at this point.
Speaker 2: Wow, what a world that ends.
Speaker 20: Yeaholute, and it's wild that there are people, groups of
Speaker 20: people who state the state the state to do this
Speaker 20: because it can be big money.
Speaker 13: Make some real money to it. Absolutely well, you're always
Speaker 13: quick with questions, Joseph quick Cadillike reflection.
Speaker 14: Thank you, Thank you, Dan Scott.
Speaker 2: You know it's probably people that grew up being a
Speaker 2: carnie and this is what they graduate to do, is
Speaker 2: be a signature gatherer. You still travel all around, usually
Speaker 2: dress the same and you bother people.
Speaker 1: A real respected profession. Eight hundred two two two five
Speaker 1: two two two is telephone number one. Eight hundred two
Speaker 1: to two two five to two two two. Here with
Speaker 1: an update on drugs and the Tenderloin, mister Randy Wang, the.
Speaker 2: City attorney for San Francisco, David Chu is suing a
Speaker 2: corner store in the Tenderloin because they say, even though
Speaker 2: you can buy a whole bunch of drugs on the street,
Speaker 2: you can also buy a whole bunch of drugs inside
Speaker 2: this mini mark for more, here's k TVU Fox two
Speaker 2: in the bay.
Speaker 25: We found methanphetamine, we found cannabis, we found other illegal
Speaker 25: tobacco products.
Speaker 3: Utol drugs. This a competition down the street, hating on
Speaker 3: us because we've taken all the testimony.
Speaker 26: Right Those connected to the business pushing back against these
Speaker 26: new allegations.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're operating a corner store voluntarily in
Speaker 2: the Tenderloin, something's up.
Speaker 1: That's a rough job.
Speaker 26: Those connected to the business pushing back against these new allegations.
Speaker 5: Good evening.
Speaker 12: I'm Greg Lee and I'm clutting Wall, San Francisco's city attorney,
Speaker 12: bringing that lawsuit forward today as the result of a
Speaker 12: year's long operation. This business on Eddy Street, which is
Speaker 12: called the Corner Store, is described as a hub.
Speaker 2: Our original.
Speaker 4: Is described as.
Speaker 12: A hub for drug activity, and tonight the city Attorney
Speaker 12: wants it's shut down.
Speaker 26: Attend KGB's Betty you Live at City Hall tonight after
Speaker 26: hearing from both sides.
Speaker 4: Betty greg I stopped by the Corner Store just hours
Speaker 4: after this lawsuit was announced and workers they're denied selling drugs.
Speaker 4: They said they're actually being blamed for crime that's happening
Speaker 4: outside their doors. The Corner Store at Eddie and Levenworth
Speaker 4: was selling more than sodas and snacks, according to a
Speaker 4: lawsuit filed by the San Francisco City Attorney. Investigators say
Speaker 4: the shop was also selling met.
Speaker 1: Well, apparently it's not just a hub for drugs. It's DFW.
Speaker 4: Tell me about the store.
Speaker 3: We sell torches, we sell snacks, we sell clothes, speakers.
Speaker 5: Let's see, we don't.
Speaker 3: Sell no drugs. We don't sell met They sell meth.
Speaker 2: Outside upstanding business owner here by the way, what Corner
Speaker 2: Store also sells speakers in addition to Dorito's.
Speaker 4: According to the complaint, investigators turned up meth a ghost
Speaker 4: gut illegal tobacco products and drug pay for nilia during
Speaker 4: a coordinated operation last year.
Speaker 5: They said we seven drugs off the stove. Basically, that's
Speaker 5: what they're saying.
Speaker 4: Because they found here's a picture of the myth.
Speaker 22: This is the myth.
Speaker 5: Oh man, Yeah, that's there. Ain't no mother math.
Speaker 1: We always seem to get these stories on a Friday.
Speaker 1: Have you noticed that?
Speaker 5: Oh man? Yeah, that's there. Ain't no mother meth.
Speaker 2: Well, that's making the wall.
Speaker 5: Ain't no.
Speaker 9: Math.
Speaker 27: This is the myth.
Speaker 5: Oh man, Yeah, that's there. Ain't no mother meth. No adderall.
Speaker 2: That's adderall.
Speaker 1: Sure, you're not supposed to be selling that either. It
Speaker 1: ain't nothing going on.
Speaker 2: We're just snorting adderall. What's wrong with you? That's totally normal.
Speaker 5: It ain't nothing going on.
Speaker 4: Have you ever witnessed such activity?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 5: Never, Just time me here record Cosmin's come here.
Speaker 4: The city is asking a judge to shut the store
Speaker 4: down for one year.
Speaker 2: The man, why is it so hard to shut down
Speaker 2: a store that's obviously operating illegally. It's the same thing
Speaker 2: with all the illegal pot stores in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: Because it's California and that's how we do business here.
Speaker 4: The city is asking it.
Speaker 2: You know, there's a measure on the LA ballot that
Speaker 2: says that we can't shut down illegal pot stores. So
Speaker 2: we're going to try to send them a tax bill
Speaker 2: at the voters say we can.
Speaker 4: The city is asking a judge to shut the store
Speaker 4: down for one year. The man who identified himself as
Speaker 4: J Money said.
Speaker 14: These names.
Speaker 4: His family owns the business and insists it's being blamed
Speaker 4: for the chaos surrounding it. The city attorney said the
Speaker 4: corner store didn't just promote drug activity.
Speaker 14: It became the drug dealer.
Speaker 5: Became a drug sound even had to stove.
Speaker 1: Every man on the street interview in this story is
Speaker 1: just gold. These are all of the store owners.
Speaker 5: It was already legal activity in the neighborhood.
Speaker 1: So you're saying, George, right now, it's the same.
Speaker 2: That is tricked. If they stopped, if they stopped operating
Speaker 2: and stopped spelling meth at this store, there would still
Speaker 2: be people smelling, buying and selling meth outside.
Speaker 1: If that's the store owner. For the record, that was
Speaker 1: not a denial.
Speaker 2: Nope, So you're saying.
Speaker 1: Right now, it's the same, and you know what, he's
Speaker 1: probably right.
Speaker 4: City officials say, police responded to multiple incidents at ordinary
Speaker 4: the store over a two span.
Speaker 25: There were thefts, there were assaults, violence, There were employees
Speaker 25: from this comedian store that had criminal records. So the
Speaker 25: San Francisco Police Department diderrate and what they discovered was
Speaker 25: the evidence of a drug operation.
Speaker 2: City Attorney David then they also have illegal gambling machines
Speaker 2: in there.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, same neighborhood.
Speaker 4: City Attorney David Cho says his office has now sued
Speaker 4: or shut down thirteen convenience stores tied to alleged criminal activity,
Speaker 4: including SF Discount Market in the Tenderloin.
Speaker 27: This is showing another action that the city is taking
Speaker 27: from its administrative capability to shut down the hubs for
Speaker 27: different parts of our opening our drug market, in this
Speaker 27: case the meth dealing.
Speaker 2: I mean, at this point, outside of maybe a mom
Speaker 2: and pop restaurant that's been there for forty years that
Speaker 2: doesn't know what to do, you have to look real
Speaker 2: suspicious that anyone that wants to operate a store in
Speaker 2: the Tenderloin, who would want to.
Speaker 1: Do that for a living.
Speaker 4: And the city says the ultimate goal here is to
Speaker 4: put pressure on the property owners to bring in law
Speaker 4: abiding businesses. That better serve.
Speaker 2: You're not going to get any law abiding businesses that
Speaker 2: want to rent space in.
Speaker 1: The tenure line, not even clothes. Well, we've learned a
Speaker 1: lot in that last segment. Stay away from that neighborhood.
Speaker 5: I ain't no mother Smith.