WEBVTT - Spencer Pratt's AI Batman video goes viral

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<v Speaker 1>And we continue at one oh five in the afternoon.

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<v Speaker 1>On the John Phillips Show, Mister Randy Wangs in Culver City.

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<v Speaker 2>John d San Francisco City attorney is suing a corner

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<v Speaker 2>meth in there.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't show no drugs. We don't we don't sell

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<v Speaker 3>met they sell myth outside.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight hundred two two two five two two two is

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<v Speaker 1>a telephone number? What eight hundred two two two five

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<v Speaker 1>two two two. Well, As former California Attorney General Javier

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<v Speaker 1>Bessera sees a bump in the polls. The knives are

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<v Speaker 1>being sharpened and out for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, are you sure that's how you pronounce his name?

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<v Speaker 1>Grampy Joe for.

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<v Speaker 4>Secretary of Health and Educations over I nominated Javier Bakaria.

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<v Speaker 1>I stand corrected.

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<v Speaker 5>Scrub it.

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<v Speaker 2>A whole bunch of peop ball are starting to pick

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<v Speaker 2>through Javier Besera's record as Attorney General and as Secretary

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<v Speaker 2>of HJHS, and some of his colleagues aren't fans.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. Apparently, when he was Secretary of Health and Human Services,

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<v Speaker 1>he used to show up to meetings totally unprepared. Biden

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<v Speaker 1>would ask him questions and he wouldn't know the answer

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<v Speaker 1>to anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Based on the interviews that we've seen Bessarah in and

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<v Speaker 2>the debates we've seen Bessarah in that tracks. For more

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<v Speaker 2>on this, we go to CBSLA.

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<v Speaker 1>The governor's race and being a front runner means being

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<v Speaker 1>a target.

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<v Speaker 5>Democrat.

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<v Speaker 1>Havierbasserra is fending off attext and it's.

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<v Speaker 6>Not just from his rivals, but also from his former

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<v Speaker 6>coworkers in the White House. CBSLA political reporter Tom Waite

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<v Speaker 6>is here to explain.

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<v Speaker 7>And it just heats up every day. Right, people with

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<v Speaker 7>their ballots are voting, So all these kind of daily

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<v Speaker 7>sort of news cycles, they matter because people are making choices.

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<v Speaker 7>So Passara's pull numbers are on the rise.

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<v Speaker 1>They have been for the past few weeks.

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<v Speaker 7>As you becomes more of a threat, as Rude band

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<v Speaker 7>Wan were saying, his opponents are taking more shots. What

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<v Speaker 7>he may not have expected was that his former White

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<v Speaker 7>House colleagues would be piling on.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, I'm looking up at the TV today and

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<v Speaker 2>every commercial is either a Javi or Basera commercial or

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<v Speaker 2>a Tom Steier commercial saying that Javi or Basera lost

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<v Speaker 2>eighty thousand migrants.

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<v Speaker 1>They must really hate him too, because typically when something

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<v Speaker 1>like this happens, they just plant negative stories about you

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe talk to the reporter off the record. They're

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<v Speaker 1>going on the record saying he was awful.

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<v Speaker 7>As Democrat Javier Besserra's poll numbers rise in the gubernatorial race,

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<v Speaker 7>so do the attacks on his candidacy, including fellow Democrats

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<v Speaker 7>at the debates.

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<v Speaker 8>Antonio is absolutely right about the secretary's failure on the

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<v Speaker 8>immigration issue.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a direct one, and other Dems.

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<v Speaker 2>Mayhe I think it's over, buddy.

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<v Speaker 1>He keeps moving up in the polls, but man, it's

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<v Speaker 1>inch by inch.

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<v Speaker 7>And other Dems are piling on too. Thursday, Politico reported

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<v Speaker 7>that a half dozen former Biden administration officials who worked

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<v Speaker 7>with Bisera are anonymously mocking his front runner status.

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<v Speaker 1>Could you imagine what those text groups must be like.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder what emojis they're using. I know what emojis

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<v Speaker 1>they use for swallwell.

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<v Speaker 7>One telling Politico quote it gets the biggest political laugh

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<v Speaker 7>every time we send around a poll. According to Politico,

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<v Speaker 7>the whispers claim as Health and Human Services Secretary Biserah

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<v Speaker 7>bungled the COVID response, a migrant health, crisis at the border,

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<v Speaker 7>and other issues.

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<v Speaker 9>Feel like it's a little too soon for the Biden

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<v Speaker 9>people to be lecturing on. You know what California voter

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<v Speaker 9>should be doing. These are officials, some of whom you know,

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<v Speaker 9>we're kind of hiding from the country, Biden's deterioration.

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<v Speaker 7>The business.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah right. I love how they're still pretending is if

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<v Speaker 1>no one knew he was senile.

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<v Speaker 7>The Bisara campaign is blasting those claims and provided statements

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<v Speaker 7>of support from former Biden administration officials like former Energy

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<v Speaker 7>Secretary Jennifer Granholm. Even a veteran California Republican strategist is

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<v Speaker 7>minimizing the claims.

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<v Speaker 10>Unless the former president were to come on say something,

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<v Speaker 10>I don't think any of this breaks.

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<v Speaker 2>The former president doesn't know who he is, and by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, didn't know who he was on day one

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<v Speaker 2>and throughout the Biden term would constantly confuse the names

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<v Speaker 2>Bessara and majorcis.

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<v Speaker 10>Unless the former president were to come on say something,

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<v Speaker 10>I don't think any of this breaks through. The only

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<v Speaker 10>way to change the trajectory of the race to have

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<v Speaker 10>something swallwell size, can we.

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<v Speaker 2>Not make that a phrase?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we haven't seen the tapes yet, so we can't

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<v Speaker 1>really comment on that.

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<v Speaker 7>The candidates have gathered for three debates over the course

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<v Speaker 7>of the last two weeks, including the showdown CBS California

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<v Speaker 7>and Pomona College hosted last week. New polling is out

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<v Speaker 7>every day, many of them showing support coalescing behind the

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<v Speaker 7>Sarah for the Democrats and Steve Hilton on the Republican side.

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<v Speaker 11>Steve Hilton is just a more television friendly.

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<v Speaker 1>Pius A way, how is it that we haven't seen

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<v Speaker 1>the Swalwell sex tapes out yet? I have a plane

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<v Speaker 1>trip tomorrow and I need something to watch. Well, if

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<v Speaker 1>they're not out by tomorrow and you're not able to

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<v Speaker 1>watch the Swallwell sex tapes that have been promised that

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<v Speaker 1>you thought we're going to be delivered, I guess you're

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna have to log into your HBO Max account

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<v Speaker 1>and check out a little heated rivalry.

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<v Speaker 12>Why do you have to watch porn in the living room?

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<v Speaker 1>You think they'll cut me off with the booze on

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<v Speaker 1>the plane if I do that.

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<v Speaker 11>Maybe Steve Hilton is just a more television friendly personality.

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<v Speaker 11>The race is.

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<v Speaker 2>Still Yeah, Bianco has resting bitch face. I said it.

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<v Speaker 11>Steve Hilton is just a more television friendly personality. The

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<v Speaker 11>race is still fluid. Be Sarah's ahead right now, but

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<v Speaker 11>not by a huge margin. There's still an opportunity for

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<v Speaker 11>other candidates to pull up. Keep an eye on mat Man.

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<v Speaker 7>A staggering statistic in the race Tom Steyer's campaign spending.

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<v Speaker 7>He's poured more than one hundred and fifty million dollars

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<v Speaker 7>of his own fortune into the campaign. He led Democrats.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know how many medical taxi cab rides?

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<v Speaker 13>That is?

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<v Speaker 1>I am still perplexed that there's an audience for that.

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<v Speaker 1>The crowd that thinks it should be illegal to be

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<v Speaker 1>a billion there is getting behind Tom Steyer.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

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<v Speaker 7>Led Democrats in some polls for a while, but has

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<v Speaker 7>now slipped from the top. So polls change a lot

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<v Speaker 7>day to day.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see where this goes.

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<v Speaker 5>We're seeing it happen right now.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you, Tom Well for much more on the June

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<v Speaker 6>primary and the people wanting your vote. Go to CPSLA

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<v Speaker 6>dot com slash Voter's guide to watch our candidate interviews

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<v Speaker 6>and compare candidates side by side.

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<v Speaker 2>So there you go. Everyone's going after Besera. Because Besara

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<v Speaker 2>keeps going up in the polls, I think we're at

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<v Speaker 2>a point where there is a ceiling for how many

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<v Speaker 2>people will vote for Tom Steyer. I don't think I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen him go above fifteen percent in any poll, and

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<v Speaker 2>now there are polls showing Besera in the twenties.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and I think the same thing is true for

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<v Speaker 1>Katie Porter, because have you noticed that even the people

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<v Speaker 1>who like her reference the fact that she's a monster,

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<v Speaker 1>including the cod Save Up, Go Ahead Katie Dinner, including

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<v Speaker 1>the pod Save America guy and the ladies on the View.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they all prefer this Katie out of my shot.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what the kind of energy they thought was going

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<v Speaker 2>to go into these debates.

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<v Speaker 5>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the latest on the goobernatorial campaign. But we

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<v Speaker 1>also have an LA mayor's race going on, and fresh

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<v Speaker 1>off the heels of his successful debate performance against incumbent

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<v Speaker 1>Karen Bass and Socialist councilwoman Nitia Rahman, Spencer Pratt has

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<v Speaker 1>campaign ads that are now going viral.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's because they are completely generated by AI and

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<v Speaker 2>one of them that is going everywhere. I can't tell

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<v Speaker 2>you the amount of people that have emailed it to us.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Spencer Pratt is Batman and Karen Bass is the joker,

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<v Speaker 2>and Gavin Newsom is French Royalty eating cake. For more

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<v Speaker 2>on the implications of the Spencer Pratt AI ads here

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<v Speaker 2>is CBS Sacramento.

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<v Speaker 8>The Badman inspired AI political ad is going viral and

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<v Speaker 8>it's stirring up plenty of talk.

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<v Speaker 2>At one point, all the people in the AI ads

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<v Speaker 2>start throwing tomatoes at Karen Bass and she doesn't like it.

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<v Speaker 14>I love it and you can see why.

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<v Speaker 8>Thanks for joining us here at six.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm Tony Lopez and I'm Marley Ginter.

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<v Speaker 7>Well.

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<v Speaker 15>That video depicts California's politicians as comic style super villains. Well,

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<v Speaker 15>former reality star turned LA mayoral candidate Spencer Pratt steps

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<v Speaker 15>in to save the city video.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got another one out where Karen Bass is a dictator.

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<v Speaker 2>It's interesting, Well, didn't Fidel Castro bring her into politics?

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<v Speaker 2>That is true.

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<v Speaker 8>Video is also raising questions about the ethics of using

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<v Speaker 8>AI for political ads.

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<v Speaker 15>GBS thirteen Steve Large is live at the Capitol with

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<v Speaker 15>that video message and how AI is really transforming campaigns

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<v Speaker 15>right now?

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<v Speaker 16>Steve, Yeah, we all know now that the future of

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<v Speaker 16>AI is really here. This video shows a candidate as Batman,

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<v Speaker 16>an incumbent as the joker, and raises the question when

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<v Speaker 16>is the joke on the voter?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't think anyone's going to watch that video

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<v Speaker 2>and think it's real.

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<v Speaker 1>No. No, And it also just goes to show you

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<v Speaker 1>that being a political strategist or a political consultant is

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<v Speaker 1>another job that AI is going to eliminate, because I

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<v Speaker 1>have seen pictures of the shoots where they develop these

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<v Speaker 1>campaign ads and there's like fifteen or twenty people there. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>now that a candidate can do it on a shoe

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<v Speaker 1>string budget with AI, you don't need to raise that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of money anymore to get a campaign ad out there.

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<v Speaker 1>It could be just one person with a laptop.

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<v Speaker 17>LA Mayor Karen Bass portrayed as a scary villain to

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<v Speaker 17>a good viewer, Governor Gavin Newsom as French Royalty eating Kate.

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<v Speaker 2>The technology is getting scary. It wasn't this good a

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<v Speaker 2>year ago.

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<v Speaker 17>And former reality TV star turned LA mayoral candidate Spencer

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<v Speaker 17>Pratt as Batman saving his city and the state from

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<v Speaker 17>a comic book Tyranny, all using artificial intelligence.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this a good thing or a bad thing.

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<v Speaker 18>Well, I think it depends on your perspective.

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<v Speaker 17>From Indy Romero is the founder of the nonpartisan Center

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<v Speaker 17>for Inclusive Democracy and says, the viral video is easy

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<v Speaker 17>for most voters to tell. It's not real.

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<v Speaker 6>As far as we know, Spencer Price is not Batman.

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<v Speaker 2>Could be. We don't know what he does late at night.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the fact that you needed a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>college degrees in a position on a board to make

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<v Speaker 1>that stay.

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<v Speaker 2>As far as we know, Spencer Pratt is not Batman.

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<v Speaker 2>Adam West is Batman was Batman.

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<v Speaker 17>The video was created by filmmaker Charles Kerran, not a

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<v Speaker 17>political campaign committee, and Kerran has not said who paid

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<v Speaker 17>for the work. New California state law and acted in

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<v Speaker 17>twenty twenty five, would require disclosure of the use of

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<v Speaker 17>artificial intelligence in campaign advertisements.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and that specifically for things like deep fakes, where

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<v Speaker 2>they're really trying to manipulate someone into thinking someone said

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<v Speaker 2>something that they didn't say. This is not that. This

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<v Speaker 2>is satire in one of its best forms.

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<v Speaker 17>Under certain circumstances to root out deep fake deception.

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<v Speaker 19>The Spencer Pratt spot is exactly what AI should be,

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<v Speaker 19>which is using innovation and technology to make an interesting

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<v Speaker 19>ad that is not trying to fool voters.

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<v Speaker 17>Republican strategist tad Berg runs political cares and is concerned

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<v Speaker 17>AI in the hands of bad acting political operatives can

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<v Speaker 17>be used to deceive voters.

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<v Speaker 2>Or are you worried about that your consulting firms about

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<v Speaker 2>to go out of business?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because think about this. If one guy on a

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<v Speaker 1>laptop can create an AD that goes viral, it's all

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<v Speaker 1>over x it's all over Facebook, it's all over Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>People are texting each other, texting it to each other,

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<v Speaker 1>they're posting it on their social media pages. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>need Tom Steyer's money to get a message out anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>All you need is a message and something clever that

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<v Speaker 1>can be done for pennies. This means that over the

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<v Speaker 1>next few cycles, the amount of money that it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to take to make a campaign or a candidate viral

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<v Speaker 1>is going to change dramatically, and the cost is going

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<v Speaker 1>to come down by a lot.

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<v Speaker 19>So where they've literally changed the world of elected officials

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<v Speaker 19>who are speaking to.

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<v Speaker 2>Wether Way, we're calling this an AD, but I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think they're trying to put this in a thirty second

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<v Speaker 2>form to air on KTLA.

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<v Speaker 1>No, No, I haven't seen anyone by time. They haven't

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<v Speaker 1>bought time on this program. They haven't bought time on

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<v Speaker 1>the channels I have going on in the background. I

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<v Speaker 1>think this was just someone fooling around on their laptop

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<v Speaker 1>and they put it out on social media because they

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was funny, and then people just shared it

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<v Speaker 1>on their own.

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<v Speaker 19>This was very organic of elected officials who were speaking

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<v Speaker 19>to change the meaning.

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<v Speaker 17>The use of AI in this La mayor's race.

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<v Speaker 18>Did you know that wasn't real?

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<v Speaker 2>And do you believe that it wasn't real?

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<v Speaker 17>Raising the campaign question? Without the comic book fantasy of

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<v Speaker 17>the Batman and Joker, would voters be full?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there probably is a voter out there that

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<v Speaker 2>thinks that ads real.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you there are people out there who have

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<v Speaker 1>no clue that Eric's wal Wells an accused rapist and

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<v Speaker 1>he is going to get thousands of votes.

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<v Speaker 16>Now, it's the Fair Political Practices Commission that enforces AI rules.

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<v Speaker 16>They have asked the legislature for more money so that

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<v Speaker 16>they can help root out AI, and they say they've

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<v Speaker 16>gotten some allegations of misuse of AI, but so far

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<v Speaker 16>no public violations have been reported.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you remember when the Katie Porter Julie Watts video

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<v Speaker 2>first came out, people started messing with that with AI

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<v Speaker 2>where they were able to manipulate that footage and make

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<v Speaker 2>it look like she was playing patty Cake with Julie

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<v Speaker 2>Watts and of course dumping potatoes on Julie Watts. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>there were some videos that had Katie Porter hitting her no.

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<v Speaker 1>To the point to where Julie Watts actually had to

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<v Speaker 1>put together a rap about all of the deep fake

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<v Speaker 1>AI videos.

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<v Speaker 2>That was six months ago. The technology has advanced way

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<v Speaker 2>faster than anyone thought it could, and I'm here for it,

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<v Speaker 2>well until it takes our jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not so uh I eight hundred two two two

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<v Speaker 1>five two two two is telephone number one eight hundred

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<v Speaker 1>two two two five two two two. Well, Randy, we

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<v Speaker 1>have an update on a story that we brought to

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<v Speaker 1>you some weeks ago involving home most people who are

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<v Speaker 1>allegedly being paid to sign voter petition not as themselves

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<v Speaker 1>but as other people.

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<v Speaker 2>This was, of course, originally uncovered by our friend JJ

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<v Speaker 2>Smith up in the Tenderloin and it went everywhere. So

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<v Speaker 2>Dan Noys teamed up with JJ Smith on an unrelated story.

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<v Speaker 2>Noticed a car with a whole bunch of ballot petitions

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<v Speaker 2>just sitting on the windshield, and that's where dan Ney's

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<v Speaker 2>got into a little bit of a verbal argument with

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<v Speaker 2>the guy who was obviously paying the homeless to sign

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<v Speaker 2>those petitions. Well, they have finally identified that guy and

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<v Speaker 2>he's a grifter from Detroit.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't say for more.

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<v Speaker 2>Here is ABC seven in the Bay and the always

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<v Speaker 2>awesome Dan Neis.

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<v Speaker 13>We have finally been able to identify this man who

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<v Speaker 13>took a swipe at the ABC seven Newsy team.

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<v Speaker 5>As you can see, we.

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<v Speaker 13>Were questioning him about allegations that he paid homeless to

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<v Speaker 13>sign other people's names on petitions against the Bill Millionaire's tex.

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<v Speaker 16>Im reporter Dan Noise is here with the latest on

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<v Speaker 16>that viral video that you were one of.

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<v Speaker 14>The stars of Dan Wow and Daniel for my report

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<v Speaker 14>last month.

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<v Speaker 20>I had a hard time identifying that man, but after

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<v Speaker 20>the story aired, I started getting messages from across the country.

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<v Speaker 20>I was investigating a different story in San Francisco's Tenderloin

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<v Speaker 20>when I saw this woman with petitions spread across the

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<v Speaker 20>hood of a car. I approached and started taking pictures

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<v Speaker 20>of the documents when a man emerged from the passenger seat.

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<v Speaker 21>Violate my privacy rights.

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<v Speaker 5>Stay away from my car.

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<v Speaker 1>If apparently it's illegal to take pictures in public.

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<v Speaker 21>Violate my privacy rights. Stay away from my car. If

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<v Speaker 21>you can see this viole my privacy rights. If you

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<v Speaker 21>can see this on the street, if you can see

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<v Speaker 21>one on the street, I can see those petitions right

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<v Speaker 21>there on the street.

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<v Speaker 5>They right there.

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<v Speaker 1>They mind, they're mine, they're yours.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, okay, are you paying people?

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<v Speaker 20>Are you paying people? Neighborhood advocate JJ Smith had already

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<v Speaker 20>captured video of the man and his partner paying a

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<v Speaker 20>homeless couple five dollars each to sign petitions in other

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<v Speaker 20>people's names.

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<v Speaker 2>JJ's got those meta ray bands and they're full and everybody, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>yes they are.

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<v Speaker 14>Smith asked the man.

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<v Speaker 5>You fight hollis for doing it? Which one can you write?

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<v Speaker 18>Neely?

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<v Speaker 14>Can I write neatly?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>You see, JJ got invited to the White House.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh did he?

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<v Speaker 21>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know when that's happening, but oh boy.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe he's staying in the Lincoln bedroom.

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<v Speaker 20>After our confrontation, I tried to identify the man, checked

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<v Speaker 20>the license plate, ran facial recognition, but could not confirm

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<v Speaker 20>his name. Then our story went viral and I got

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<v Speaker 20>a message from a signature gatherer living in the Midwest.

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<v Speaker 22>You watched the story and you recognized him.

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<v Speaker 18>Yes, I recognized him, and I recognized him immediately.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's not the guy's voice.

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<v Speaker 1>No, But instead, every single person who's interviewed by the

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<v Speaker 1>local news acts as if they're in the witness protection program.

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<v Speaker 2>But instead of doing the old school disguising somebody's voice,

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<v Speaker 2>they literally did the interview, took the transcript of what

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<v Speaker 2>the witness said, and used an AI voice.

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<v Speaker 1>They should have used the Queen of England.

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<v Speaker 22>You watched the story and you recognized him?

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<v Speaker 18>Yes, I recognized him, and I recognized him immediately.

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<v Speaker 20>He doesn't want to show his face or use his name.

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<v Speaker 20>He also asked that I replace his voice with a

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<v Speaker 20>computer generated one.

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<v Speaker 2>He says, guy's gone for extra levels of protection because

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't want anyone thinking he's a rat.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if he's in a hotel under an assumed name.

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<v Speaker 20>He says the signature gathering community is small and that

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<v Speaker 20>he has seen Phil Brunson on other jobs.

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<v Speaker 22>When you saw our story, what was your reaction.

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<v Speaker 18>I was upset.

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<v Speaker 2>See the AI can't really do the inflection properly.

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<v Speaker 18>I was upset.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy may have a comical accent.

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<v Speaker 2>It's possible.

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<v Speaker 18>I was upset. There's a lot of petitioners that are

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<v Speaker 18>upset because our job is to go out there legally

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<v Speaker 18>and do it the right way. You never beat the system.

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<v Speaker 2>Something that maybe people aren't aware of is how many

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<v Speaker 2>signature gatherers are, like from out of state and they

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<v Speaker 2>just travel around the country and this is their job.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, because different states have elections at different times.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're in that business, you have to go

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<v Speaker 1>where the jobs are, you have to go where the

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<v Speaker 1>money is.

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<v Speaker 18>You never beat the system. It never happens. You just

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<v Speaker 18>get caught, you might as well just do it the

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<v Speaker 18>right way.

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<v Speaker 20>The signature gather appointed me to Philip DeShawn. Brunson's social

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<v Speaker 20>media and a background check shows that he is fifty

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<v Speaker 20>years old, living in Detroit, with a criminal history. He

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<v Speaker 20>spent time in prison.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't say, and I thought he was a fine,

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<v Speaker 1>upstanding person this whole time.

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<v Speaker 20>Brunson is again getting attention from law enforcement. Secretary of

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<v Speaker 20>State Shirley Weber is California's chief elections officer.

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<v Speaker 14>Her spokesperson says.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course she's not going to talk.

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<v Speaker 1>No, she never does, even when she screws everything up,

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<v Speaker 1>which is all the time.

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<v Speaker 14>They have reviewed our video and that an investigation is ongoing. Quote.

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<v Speaker 20>We are continuing to work closely with law enforcement to

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<v Speaker 20>hold those who abuse the initiative process accountable.

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<v Speaker 23>Like any business, Dan, they're bad actors. You know, in

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<v Speaker 23>every industry has to take steps throughtout bad actors.

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<v Speaker 5>It's no different here.

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<v Speaker 20>Brandon Castillo has been running ballot measure campaigns for some

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<v Speaker 20>twenty five years.

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<v Speaker 14>He's not involved in either.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder how many of those were kidney bills.

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<v Speaker 20>He's not involved in either side of the billionaire tax issue.

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<v Speaker 20>He says signature gathering could be so lucrative that people

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<v Speaker 20>travel state to state. Online groups post where the jobs

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<v Speaker 20>are and what they're paying the anti billionaire tax.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta say the whole concept to paid signature gathering,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a fan of.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, how often are you exiting a grocery store and

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<v Speaker 1>they come up to you and they have a honey

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<v Speaker 1>trap It is, hey sign this petition to protect Prop thirteen?

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<v Speaker 1>Say you do it, and then they go, okay, we

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<v Speaker 1>have this other one about a kidney bill, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they start pressuring you to sign that one too because

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<v Speaker 1>they have a live one.

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<v Speaker 5>So if they're.

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<v Speaker 1>Gathering signatures for five or six petitions and they lured

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<v Speaker 1>you in with one that has broad public support, they

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<v Speaker 1>just expect that you're going to stand there and sign

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<v Speaker 1>them all, and then you're worth like one hundred bucks.

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<v Speaker 14>The Anti Billionaire Tax group paid fifteen dollars a signature.

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<v Speaker 14>Some of these folks I've heard are making.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, the billionaires that don't want to get taxed. They

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<v Speaker 2>were spending all kinds of money on paid signature gathering

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<v Speaker 2>to get their anti billionaire tax on the ballot, including

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<v Speaker 2>to some of these firms that we're using less than

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<v Speaker 2>legal methods of getting those signs natures.

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<v Speaker 1>And here's what I'm sure happens. And it's not just

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<v Speaker 1>for the Billionaires Tax. I'm sure it goes for all

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<v Speaker 1>of them. You just know that you need a certain

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<v Speaker 1>number of signatures, so you go to one of these

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<v Speaker 1>firms and you hire them. It's not like the people

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<v Speaker 1>are working in house for you and you're the one

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<v Speaker 1>that tells them to go out and be unethical. You

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<v Speaker 1>just hire another company and you assume that what they're

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<v Speaker 1>doing is legal because they have a business license. They're

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<v Speaker 1>certainly someone who has done this before for other initiatives,

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<v Speaker 1>and you just pay them per signature.

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<v Speaker 20>The Anti Billionaire Tax group paid fifteen dollars a signature.

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<v Speaker 23>Some of these folks I've heard are making, you know,

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<v Speaker 23>hundreds of thousands of dollars over the course of a

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<v Speaker 23>year or even in a short season where they're collecting.

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<v Speaker 23>You know, just do the math. If you stand in

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<v Speaker 23>front of a store and you get one hundred signatures

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<v Speaker 23>at ten bucks a pop, you know, that's a pretty

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<v Speaker 23>good chunk of money.

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<v Speaker 20>Group sponsoring ballot measures check the validity of signatures and

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<v Speaker 20>so do county election offices.

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<v Speaker 24>So when we receive the petition and we have the signatures.

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<v Speaker 20>Jim Irizari walked me through the process for San Mateo County.

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<v Speaker 20>Every signature on a petition is digitized and then compared

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<v Speaker 20>to that voter signatures from past elections. Even a more

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<v Speaker 20>popular raceis with hundreds of thousands of ballots each get

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<v Speaker 20>scanned by the human eye.

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<v Speaker 24>We will have a person look at every one of

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<v Speaker 24>those signatures and compare them to.

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<v Speaker 14>The voter registration card or the history on that card.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad they do the history because I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 2>right now, my signature looks nothing like it did when

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<v Speaker 2>I was eighteen and filled out that voter registration card.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, it changes over time.

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<v Speaker 2>I gave up a long time ago, and now I

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<v Speaker 2>just do a squiggle R, SQUIGGLEW. Seriously, can anybody in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty six that's not an English major even do cursive.

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<v Speaker 1>No, which is why maybe they look at it. But

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<v Speaker 1>how many ballots do they actually throw out because the

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<v Speaker 1>signatures don't match.

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<v Speaker 24>For prior signatures that we've reviewed, even when is three

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<v Speaker 24>hundred thousand signatures, Even if those when three hundred thousand signatures.

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<v Speaker 24>We hire anywhere between fifteen to twenty people just to

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<v Speaker 24>do that. That are signature.

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<v Speaker 14>Verifiers here, as already tells me.

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<v Speaker 20>If they come upon a signature gatherer or petitioned circulator

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<v Speaker 20>as they're called, who appears to be cheating.

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<v Speaker 2>They're certified chicken scratch experts.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, I don't even think AI can do

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<v Speaker 1>that yet, verify a signature.

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<v Speaker 20>Her as Alrea tells me, if they come upon a

0:27:36.440 --> 0:27:40.600
<v Speaker 20>signature gatherer or petitioned circulator as they're called, who appears

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<v Speaker 20>to be cheating, they'll contact law enforcement.

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<v Speaker 24>So the greatest danger we have here is undermining the

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<v Speaker 24>integrity of the electoral process. That's why it is a

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<v Speaker 24>felony to do that, and also the circulator that is

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<v Speaker 24>violating the law will go to jail for that.

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<v Speaker 20>The group called Building a Better California is sponsoring the

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<v Speaker 20>anti billionaire tax measure. A spokesperson says, because of the

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<v Speaker 20>item report, they instructed our campaign's signature contractor to screen

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<v Speaker 20>out any and all signatures submitted by mister Brunson, but

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<v Speaker 20>so far they haven't found any quote. We think it's

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<v Speaker 20>likely that mister Brunson got scared off by the fact

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<v Speaker 20>that he was featured in the ABC seven story.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's definitely possible. Once he realized who Dan Noys was,

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<v Speaker 2>he knew that if he turned in those signatures, those

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<v Speaker 2>obviously fraudulent signatures, he was going back to prison probably.

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<v Speaker 20>The group said they also have a zero tolerance policy

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<v Speaker 20>against any type of fraud. The San Francisco Die's office

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<v Speaker 20>confirms they have received a referral, but won't comment on

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<v Speaker 20>the status of this case. Now, I left messages on

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<v Speaker 20>brunson social media, his email accounts, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Thus he slid into his DMS.

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<v Speaker 5>Dan.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think he's going to respond his.

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<v Speaker 20>Email accounts and phone numbers, but have received no response

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<v Speaker 20>at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, what a world that ends.

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<v Speaker 20>Yeaholute, and it's wild that there are people, groups of

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<v Speaker 20>people who state the state the state to do this

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<v Speaker 20>because it can be big money.

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<v Speaker 13>Make some real money to it. Absolutely well, you're always

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<v Speaker 13>quick with questions, Joseph quick Cadillike reflection.

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<v Speaker 14>Thank you, Thank you, Dan Scott.

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<v Speaker 2>You know it's probably people that grew up being a

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<v Speaker 2>carnie and this is what they graduate to do, is

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<v Speaker 2>be a signature gatherer. You still travel all around, usually

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<v Speaker 2>dress the same and you bother people.

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<v Speaker 1>A real respected profession. Eight hundred two two two five

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<v Speaker 1>two two two is telephone number one. Eight hundred two

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<v Speaker 1>to two two five to two two two. Here with

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<v Speaker 1>an update on drugs and the Tenderloin, mister Randy Wang, the.

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<v Speaker 2>City attorney for San Francisco, David Chu is suing a

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<v Speaker 2>corner store in the Tenderloin because they say, even though

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<v Speaker 2>you can buy a whole bunch of drugs on the street,

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<v Speaker 2>you can also buy a whole bunch of drugs inside

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<v Speaker 2>this mini mark for more, here's k TVU Fox two

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<v Speaker 2>in the bay.

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<v Speaker 25>We found methanphetamine, we found cannabis, we found other illegal

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<v Speaker 25>tobacco products.

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<v Speaker 3>Utol drugs. This a competition down the street, hating on

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<v Speaker 3>us because we've taken all the testimony.

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<v Speaker 26>Right Those connected to the business pushing back against these

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<v Speaker 26>new allegations.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you're operating a corner store voluntarily in

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<v Speaker 2>the Tenderloin, something's up.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a rough job.

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<v Speaker 26>Those connected to the business pushing back against these new allegations.

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<v Speaker 5>Good evening.

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<v Speaker 12>I'm Greg Lee and I'm clutting Wall, San Francisco's city attorney,

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<v Speaker 12>bringing that lawsuit forward today as the result of a

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<v Speaker 12>year's long operation. This business on Eddy Street, which is

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<v Speaker 12>called the Corner Store, is described as a hub.

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<v Speaker 2>Our original.

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<v Speaker 4>Is described as.

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<v Speaker 12>A hub for drug activity, and tonight the city Attorney

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<v Speaker 12>wants it's shut down.

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<v Speaker 26>Attend KGB's Betty you Live at City Hall tonight after

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<v Speaker 26>hearing from both sides.

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<v Speaker 4>Betty greg I stopped by the Corner Store just hours

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<v Speaker 4>after this lawsuit was announced and workers they're denied selling drugs.

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<v Speaker 4>They said they're actually being blamed for crime that's happening

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<v Speaker 4>outside their doors. The Corner Store at Eddie and Levenworth

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<v Speaker 4>was selling more than sodas and snacks, according to a

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<v Speaker 4>lawsuit filed by the San Francisco City Attorney. Investigators say

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<v Speaker 4>the shop was also selling met.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, apparently it's not just a hub for drugs. It's DFW.

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<v Speaker 4>Tell me about the store.

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<v Speaker 3>We sell torches, we sell snacks, we sell clothes, speakers.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's see, we don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Sell no drugs. We don't sell met They sell meth.

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<v Speaker 2>Outside upstanding business owner here by the way, what Corner

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<v Speaker 2>Store also sells speakers in addition to Dorito's.

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<v Speaker 4>According to the complaint, investigators turned up meth a ghost

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<v Speaker 4>gut illegal tobacco products and drug pay for nilia during

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<v Speaker 4>a coordinated operation last year.

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<v Speaker 5>They said we seven drugs off the stove. Basically, that's

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<v Speaker 5>what they're saying.

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<v Speaker 4>Because they found here's a picture of the myth.

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<v Speaker 22>This is the myth.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh man, Yeah, that's there. Ain't no mother math.

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<v Speaker 1>We always seem to get these stories on a Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you noticed that?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh man? Yeah, that's there. Ain't no mother meth.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's making the wall.

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<v Speaker 5>Ain't no.

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<v Speaker 9>Math.

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<v Speaker 27>This is the myth.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh man, Yeah, that's there. Ain't no mother meth. No adderall.

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<v Speaker 2>That's adderall.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, you're not supposed to be selling that either. It

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<v Speaker 1>ain't nothing going on.

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<v Speaker 2>We're just snorting adderall. What's wrong with you? That's totally normal.

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<v Speaker 5>It ain't nothing going on.

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<v Speaker 4>Have you ever witnessed such activity?

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<v Speaker 8>No?

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<v Speaker 5>Never, Just time me here record Cosmin's come here.

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<v Speaker 4>The city is asking a judge to shut the store

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<v Speaker 4>down for one year.

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<v Speaker 2>The man, why is it so hard to shut down

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<v Speaker 2>a store that's obviously operating illegally. It's the same thing

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<v Speaker 2>with all the illegal pot stores in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 1>Because it's California and that's how we do business here.

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<v Speaker 4>The city is asking it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there's a measure on the LA ballot that

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<v Speaker 2>says that we can't shut down illegal pot stores. So

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to try to send them a tax bill

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<v Speaker 2>at the voters say we can.

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<v Speaker 4>The city is asking a judge to shut the store

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<v Speaker 4>down for one year. The man who identified himself as

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<v Speaker 4>J Money said.

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<v Speaker 14>These names.

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<v Speaker 4>His family owns the business and insists it's being blamed

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<v Speaker 4>for the chaos surrounding it. The city attorney said the

0:33:56.240 --> 0:33:58.600
<v Speaker 4>corner store didn't just promote drug activity.

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<v Speaker 14>It became the drug dealer.

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<v Speaker 5>Became a drug sound even had to stove.

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<v Speaker 1>Every man on the street interview in this story is

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<v Speaker 1>just gold. These are all of the store owners.

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<v Speaker 5>It was already legal activity in the neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're saying, George, right now, it's the same.

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<v Speaker 2>That is tricked. If they stopped, if they stopped operating

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<v Speaker 2>and stopped spelling meth at this store, there would still

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<v Speaker 2>be people smelling, buying and selling meth outside.

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<v Speaker 1>If that's the store owner. For the record, that was

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<v Speaker 1>not a denial.

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<v Speaker 2>Nope, So you're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, it's the same, and you know what, he's

0:34:53.520 --> 0:34:54.279
<v Speaker 1>probably right.

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<v Speaker 4>City officials say, police responded to multiple incidents at ordinary

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<v Speaker 4>the store over a two span.

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<v Speaker 25>There were thefts, there were assaults, violence, There were employees

0:35:04.360 --> 0:35:06.920
<v Speaker 25>from this comedian store that had criminal records. So the

0:35:06.960 --> 0:35:11.320
<v Speaker 25>San Francisco Police Department diderrate and what they discovered was

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<v Speaker 25>the evidence of a drug operation.

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<v Speaker 2>City Attorney David then they also have illegal gambling machines

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<v Speaker 2>in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, same neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 4>City Attorney David Cho says his office has now sued

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<v Speaker 4>or shut down thirteen convenience stores tied to alleged criminal activity,

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<v Speaker 4>including SF Discount Market in the Tenderloin.

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<v Speaker 27>This is showing another action that the city is taking

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<v Speaker 27>from its administrative capability to shut down the hubs for

0:35:39.120 --> 0:35:40.880
<v Speaker 27>different parts of our opening our drug market, in this

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<v Speaker 27>case the meth dealing.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, at this point, outside of maybe a mom

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<v Speaker 2>and pop restaurant that's been there for forty years that

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't know what to do, you have to look real

0:35:50.680 --> 0:35:53.560
<v Speaker 2>suspicious that anyone that wants to operate a store in

0:35:53.600 --> 0:35:56.239
<v Speaker 2>the Tenderloin, who would want to.

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<v Speaker 1>Do that for a living.

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<v Speaker 4>And the city says the ultimate goal here is to

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<v Speaker 4>put pressure on the property owners to bring in law

0:36:03.719 --> 0:36:05.600
<v Speaker 4>abiding businesses. That better serve.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not going to get any law abiding businesses that

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<v Speaker 2>want to rent space in.

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<v Speaker 1>The tenure line, not even clothes. Well, we've learned a

0:36:17.120 --> 0:36:22.360
<v Speaker 1>lot in that last segment. Stay away from that neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 5>I ain't no mother Smith.