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Speaker 2: Matt mayok or forty nine ers Insider from NBC Sports

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Speaker 2: Perry and joins us And if my count is right, Matt,

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Speaker 2: we are right around mock draft? Four point oh time?

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Speaker 3: Is that?

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Speaker 2: Is that correct? Is that it always feels like that

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Speaker 2: this time of here?

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Speaker 4: How you doing?

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Speaker 3: Man? No, that's you're on it? Yep, that's right? Four

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Speaker 3: point oh five point oh soon? Oh yeah when yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm sure I'll feel we uh we planned this so

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Speaker 3: that the five point zero comes after four point zero?

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Speaker 3: So oh perfect, that's good, really well thought out.

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Speaker 4: So what's the last one?

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Speaker 1: Mac? Is it?

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Speaker 4: Is it six point zero?

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Speaker 3: H it just we might just call it the final final?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, let me think about this. Is uh, I'm

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Speaker 3: not sure if we're going to have one more before

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Speaker 3: the final one or it's all it's all mapped out.

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Speaker 3: I just haven't consulted that list. But yeah, so far

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Speaker 3: for four you haven't you didn't ask, but I'm all

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Speaker 3: about you know what, I'm curious, you don't need. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: So we went edge rusher for round one. That was

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Speaker 3: Omark Cooper Junior, the wide receiver from Indiana. Oh my god,

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Speaker 3: he's he's perfect from the forty and then the forty

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Speaker 3: went back to edge rusher, TJ. Parker from Clemson. And

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Speaker 3: then the last one I did last week after the

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Speaker 3: and m So so far three defensive ends, one wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: I'm quite sure what I'll you. I don't know if

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Speaker 3: I what do you guys think?

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Speaker 2: Well, what I think of the Well, what I think

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Speaker 2: is interesting is you made all those picks, and then

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Speaker 2: I looked down today and you're making a case for

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Speaker 2: the Niners flipping the first round pick to Arizona.

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Speaker 3: So well that's an interesting too. Yeah, I've already given them,

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Speaker 3: you know, four picks at twenty seven, so you know,

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Speaker 3: if those guys are still there to you know, trade

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Speaker 3: it's you know, when you look at it, you know,

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Speaker 3: there's positions there on the defensive side. On the offensive side,

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Speaker 4: But you have them trading with the Arizona Cardinals, correct, Matt.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's that makes all the sense in the world.

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Speaker 3: First off, let me just backtrack one part here. I

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Speaker 3: you know who those guys are. You know, it's a

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Speaker 2: With that in mind, Matt, that to me then would

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Speaker 3: That we have? Yeah, I agree, I mean, again, you

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Speaker 3: it's Caleb Lomu from Utah who's kind of seen that

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Speaker 4: And I know report.

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Speaker 3: It you know, really depends, you know, I think if

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Speaker 5: This whole song and dance with him where they're not

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Speaker 4: It's not petty, it's just good business.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's basically he's sending the message to all

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Speaker 3: Why wish? Why should we been over backwards to do

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that mayrak of the wish. You Here are forty

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Speaker 2: with Matt normally on Mondays, but on Tuesday this week.

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Speaker 2: Matt enjoyed the rest of the weekend looking forward to

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Speaker 2: five point zero or the final Final, or however, from

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Speaker 2: many more that there are to come. Before drafting a

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Speaker 3: I just might one daily for this place for let's.

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Speaker 2: See, I mean, let's see what else they could get

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Speaker 2: How would consider trading it to Seattle the first round pick?

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Speaker 2: There we go, maybe they'll need something. Yeah, all right, Matt,

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: Thanks, thanks so much.

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Speaker 3: Take appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Great stuff there from Matt Mayoko up