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Speaker 1: The two two pitch is called straight three fastball got

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Speaker 1: him Robbie Rain his two hundred and forty seventh career

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Speaker 1: start in what's been a very distinguished career.

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Speaker 2: It's only his second career complete game.

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Speaker 3: This is the Giants Fan Fest warm up Show with

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Speaker 3: Bill Laski on the home of the Orange and Black.

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Speaker 1: We are the sports Leader.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back. We are in Sacramento, California, at Sutter Health Ballpark,

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Speaker 3: the third stop for the San Francisco Giants fan Fest,

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Speaker 3: the last day of January, getting ready for first pitch

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Speaker 3: February tenth, when the pitchers and catchers report in Scottsdale.

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Speaker 3: Five days later, the full squad is arriving and Tony

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Speaker 3: Vittello starts his first year as the manager of the

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Speaker 3: San Francisco Giants. My guest today, good friend mine, in

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Speaker 3: his third year, coming back to be a Sacramento RiverCat.

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Speaker 3: We're in his hometown today. Of course, he's the pitching

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Speaker 3: coach for the Sacramento River Cats. Let's bring in Alan

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Speaker 3: Keano Allan, how are you today?

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Speaker 2: I'm good? First, Bill, I'm good. First question is what's

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Speaker 2: the weather like there? I'm sitting here in Chicago.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty nice here, you know, I know you're in Chicago.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's warm like it is here, a

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Speaker 3: little overcast, but it's a beautiful day here at Sutter

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Speaker 3: Heel Ballpark. You have been here for two years, starting

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Speaker 3: your third year. Congratulations on coming back with Dave Brundage

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Speaker 3: and the whole crew is coming back. Tell us a

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean we jelled really well together last year,

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Speaker 2: and of course Brundy's been the mainstay there with Cabby

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Speaker 2: and you know, all these guys, they're really good at

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Speaker 2: and then having PJ the hitting coach, he's been absolutely outstanding.

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Speaker 2: With Rob Riggins, and then our support staff with Harms, Walsh,

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Speaker 3: Alan Keano joining me. He's the pitching coach for the

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Speaker 3: Sacramento River Casts. Let's put a little praise on you

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Speaker 3: because the pitchers really threw well for you last year

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Speaker 3: seven shutouts that was third in the league and ninety

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Speaker 3: Oh, you're one hundred percent Allen and you start looking

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Speaker 3: Oh, no question. A top prospect for the San Francisco

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Speaker 3: Well, he did pitch very well for you, and Sacramento

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Speaker 3: That voice you hear on the warm up shows. Alan Keano,

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Speaker 3: Come on down. It's the third stop for the San

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Speaker 3: some great pitchers, Robbie Rey, Jose, Budo, Matt Gage. Come

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Speaker 3: And like I said, we're in Alan Keano's backyard here

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Speaker 2: The stuff is outstanding. It's electric out of the hand.

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Speaker 2: that's for sure. Alan.

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Speaker 3: This is your sixth year with the San Francisco Giants.

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Speaker 3: She spent three years in Eugene. Some fantastic numbers as

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Speaker 3: We talk about young guys, we talk about bird song,

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Speaker 3: He sure did. A couple more minutes with Alan Keano

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's funny, right because right now I'm doing

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Speaker 2: That's a beautiful thing about the Giants. We have so

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Speaker 3: Well, Alan, I want to thank you for your time.

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Speaker 3: A lot of fans waiting to come in, free parking,

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