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Speaker 1: On the John and Phillips Show, broadcasting live from our

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Speaker 1: sister station KMJAY in Fresno. Mister Randy Weggs in Culver City, John,

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Speaker 1: this is a real sign of the times. If you

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Speaker 1: in Orange County, you are considered low income and inflation

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Speaker 1: has gotten so bad. Steve Hilton just upped his tax

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Speaker 1: grand is tax free. Well, if you're making one hundred

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Speaker 1: grand a year, my guess is the only thing you

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Speaker 1: can afford at South Coast Plaza is a hot dog

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Speaker 1: on a stick, maybe a sample from C's. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Eight hundred two two two five two two two is

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Speaker 1: telephone number one. Eight hundred two two two five two

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Speaker 1: two two. It is our pleasure to welcome our next

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Speaker 1: guest to the program. He is the four ub or

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Speaker 1: Sheriff for the County of Los Angeles and current candidate

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Speaker 1: to become the next Sheriff of Los Angeles County. You

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Speaker 1: can get him online at Alexvnweva dot org and follow

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Speaker 1: him on exit. Alex Vinweva, thirty three Sheriff yn Weava.

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Speaker 2: Welcome.

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Speaker 3: Oh thank you, John. How are you doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm good And I've got to tell you. One of

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Speaker 1: the things that happened when you were sheriff of Los

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Speaker 1: top of the list in terms of crimes that you

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Speaker 1: were going to look into, where if there was malfeasance

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Speaker 1: or alleged malfeasans going on, let's say, oh, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: on the La County Board of Supervisors, you would go

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Speaker 1: ahead and dig in and try to find out what

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Speaker 1: corruption you could uncover. That resulted obviously in a high

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Speaker 1: profile investigation of then Supervisor Sheila Cule. You also looked

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Speaker 1: into the standards and practices of other politicians in Los

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Speaker 1: Angeles County. It seems like there's not a lot of

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Speaker 1: that going on anymore in LA County, and you look

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Speaker 1: back at what happened in cities like Bell and Southgate

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Speaker 1: and independent municipalities all around the County of Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: There is corruption that's there if you're looking for it

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Speaker 1: and you're willing to do something about it. And it

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Speaker 1: seems that right now there's more corruption going on than ever.

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Speaker 1: But if no one's looking then it can just happen

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Speaker 1: and flourish. And right now, the voters of Los Angeles

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Speaker 1: just approved another tax increase because the county claims that

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Speaker 1: it's broke and it can't afford to perform the duties

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Speaker 1: that the county is supposed to perform without additional funds

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Speaker 1: coming into those county coffers. But you look at what's

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Speaker 1: going on right now with the abuse of the hospice

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Speaker 1: centers and the San Fernando Valley. You look at what's

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Speaker 1: going on right now with abuse in places like Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: You see all of these groups that are ripping taxpayers off,

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Speaker 1: and you think, if we had a sheriff in Los

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Speaker 1: wouldn't need these tax increases. Maybe we wouldn't need additional monies.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we could get by on the money that the

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Speaker 1: in a place where it's very high cost of living

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Speaker 1: to begin with, dig deeper into our pockets to give

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Speaker 3: Oh, I agree with you one hundred percent. Let's put

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Speaker 3: this way. From twenty eleven to twenty twenty five, that

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Speaker 3: fourteen year time period the budget of the City of La,

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Speaker 3: the County of La, and the State of California either

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Speaker 3: doubled or tripled. Inside think about that. The massive increase

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Speaker 3: doesn't you can't adjust that for infloration inflation. It's just huge,

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Speaker 3: and that corresponds with the massive growth in public sector jobs.

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Speaker 3: It did not correspond with better and services being provided

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Speaker 3: at the city, county, and the state level. Actually is

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Speaker 3: a reduction in services that government is supposed to provide.

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Speaker 3: But you're getting all kinds of weird stuff that the city,

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Speaker 3: the county, and state are not providing funds for, and

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Speaker 3: most of it is going to the nonprofit world. Just

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Speaker 3: as you've outlined.

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Speaker 1: It's also so bad right now that the federal government

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Speaker 1: does not trust our local elected officials to spend the

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Speaker 1: animosity between the locals and the Feds, but I don't

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Speaker 1: see how any fair person can look at this and

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Speaker 1: not say, the Feds have a point where you have

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Speaker 1: a bunch of people, for example, whose homes burned down

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Speaker 1: and you have this money from the state, money from

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Speaker 1: nonprofits that are supposed to be going to fire victims,

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Speaker 1: and you talk to the fire victims, and the fire

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Speaker 1: when we call them and we ask them, why is

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Speaker 3: Then you shouldn't hold your breath either. I mean, imagine

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Speaker 3: that George Clooney's nonprofit somehow netted some of the money

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Speaker 3: the one hundred million that went to Fire Aid, some

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Speaker 3: his wife's nonprofit. None of it got into the hands

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Speaker 3: of the actual victims of fire. It all fed the

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Speaker 3: massive ecosystem of nonprofits here in LA. And that's what

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Speaker 3: it has to stop if we want to have any

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Speaker 1: Have you ever seen a situation like this, because these

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Speaker 1: they can't get the permits, they can't read build their homes,

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Speaker 1: they can't get the money. That's owed to them by

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Speaker 1: their insurance companies. They can't get fire aid money, they

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Speaker 1: that the state allocated. It's like every individual or entity

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Speaker 3: Well. They they view this as who is it? Robmy

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Speaker 3: Menos said that never let a crisis go to waste,

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Speaker 3: and this is proof of it right here. Every single nonprofit,

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Speaker 3: every single public sector lined up to create more red tape.

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Speaker 3: Imagine if the mayor of LA or the board of

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Speaker 3: supervisor said, hey, you know what, you built your home

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Speaker 3: so sad, you got the plans for it, Good build

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Speaker 3: it again. Talk to us when you're done. That would

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Speaker 3: in all the structures that already existed, and said what

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Speaker 3: do we do, Hey, let's make everything to satisfy twenty

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Speaker 3: you know, through the roof forty percent of the construction

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Speaker 3: Imagine the cost differentialists they actually, you know, did their

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Speaker 1: The World Cop is going on right now here in

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Speaker 1: California and around the country, and of course all eyes

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Speaker 1: are on those soccer games. The games are generating huge

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Speaker 1: Barbara Ferrara, came out this week with a public service

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Speaker 1: World Cup. And you think, okay, well, you know that

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Speaker 1: means don't drink and drive, that means don't get in

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Speaker 1: free narcan so that you don't overdose at the game

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Speaker 1: when you're watching the game. The implication being that people

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Speaker 2: And you just.

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Speaker 1: Scratch your head looking at this, going we have to

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Speaker 1: be the laughing stock for the rest of the world.

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Speaker 1: Will they come here and this is what we're putting

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Speaker 1: on public airwaves. This is what we're spending dollars on

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Speaker 1: with the working assumption that people who can afford very

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Speaker 1: and do fentanyl. What do you make of her in

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Speaker 1: that ridiculous campaign, Well.

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Speaker 3: This is the same lady that came up with the

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Speaker 3: harm reduction strategy of hanging out needle and crack bipes

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Speaker 3: to meth heads, tweakers and people are addicted to fentanyl

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Speaker 3: as this somehow that is going to reduce the harm

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Speaker 3: It is absolute, utter nonsense. It just enables further addiction,

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Speaker 3: doesn't solve the problem. But think of the of the

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Speaker 3: contrast Japanese fans when they went to see their team play,

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Speaker 3: talk about cultural differences and expectations here.

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Speaker 1: Is there anything that you would be able to do,

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Speaker 1: as Sheriff of Los Angeles County to stop that office,

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Speaker 1: that Department of Public Health from passing out drug paraphernalia

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Speaker 1: giving them the tools that they're going to use to

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Speaker 1: as sheriff to try to keep the peace in a

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Speaker 3: In Venice. When we cleaned up the Venice boardwalk, we

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Speaker 3: to be throughout all of Elie County. We've got to

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Speaker 3: do a no nonsense approach and tough love. And you

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Speaker 3: know what, there's a whole idea about coddling people with

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Speaker 3: That has to stop. We have to turn off the

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Speaker 1: That even legal for them to pass out that drug paraphernalia.

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Speaker 3: It's I don't think it actually is legal. There is

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Speaker 3: a crime of you know, a drug paraphernalia and they

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Speaker 3: send the Health and Safety Code and it can be

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Speaker 1: As you look at what's going on right now with

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Speaker 1: there's been problems elsewhere. Do you believe that this city

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Speaker 1: going to have to change some things that we're doing

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Speaker 1: in a pretty serious way so that we don't become

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Speaker 3: Well, the Sheriffs to Parliament and LAPD, the two agencies

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Speaker 3: all the different venues, they are so massively understaffed they

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Speaker 3: both have a staffing crisis going on, and it is

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Speaker 3: not getting any better. It's only getting progressively worse. The

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Speaker 3: Consider that there'll be at least two thousand more vacancies

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Speaker 3: involves mister Luna needs to just resign right now, call

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Speaker 3: it a day. It didn't work. He's never figured out

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Speaker 3: He decided not to publish the figures. He didn't publish

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Speaker 1: Sheriff Alex Vnweva, former sheriff of Los Angeles County, current

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Speaker 3: You got it, aljinwevat twenty twenty six dot com.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, wait a second, is it happening again? We

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's go back to the conversation we

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Speaker 4: And we have yet another instance of a nonprofit, this

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Speaker 5: Instigation into a charity on the Peninsula, which helps the needy.

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Speaker 5: Ecumenical Hunger Program raises millions each year to feed the hungry.

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Speaker 6: It's a Bay Area charity that promises to help feed

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Speaker 6: Fifty years of serving the East Palo Alto community. A

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Speaker 9: Particularly when you are using money that has been earmarked

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Speaker 9: for public use to misuse, even a dollar of that

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Speaker 9: could be problematic.

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Speaker 6: Could be How about is medical hunger program is a

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Speaker 6: family affair? Lisa Preston is the executive director. She succeeded

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Speaker 6: her mother, Navita Butler, and Preston's daughter, Lakeisha Roberts is

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Speaker 6: the associate director.

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Speaker 1: It's a nonprofit dynasty, and the taxpayers are footing the bill.

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Speaker 6: From twenty twenty three to twenty twenty four, the nonprofit

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Speaker 6: says it served nearly twenty thousand people through their emergency

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Speaker 6: food program in that same year. However, public tax filings

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Speaker 6: show that the nonprofit paid thousands and thousands of dollars

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Speaker 6: to Preston's family, including in laws.

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Speaker 4: Good to know that they are being wait Even the

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Speaker 4: in laws are getting money from this.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like everyone in the family is on this

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Speaker 1: gravy train.

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Speaker 9: Honest and direct in terms of what they're reporting, but

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Speaker 9: it doesn't change the fact that these do. This does

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Speaker 9: raise questions.

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Speaker 6: More than forty seven thousand dollars paid off Preston's sister

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Speaker 6: and husband's personal debts, utilities, insurance, and other costs.

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Speaker 4: Is a nonprofit just to enrich this family. Donate to

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Speaker 4: help this family stay rich. It's a slush fund.

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Speaker 6: More than thirty five thousand dollars for her daughter in

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Speaker 6: law's personal debts and mortgage. Preston's son receiving more than

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Speaker 6: four thousand dollars for DMV fees.

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Speaker 4: Now, hold on a second. If you're paying off your

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Speaker 4: daughter in law's car debt, are you doing that because

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Speaker 4: you can hold it over their head for the rest

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Speaker 4: of your lives? And four thousand dollars in DMV fees,

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Speaker 4: how do you even get that high? You had to

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Speaker 4: be doing something illegal because or you have to own

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Speaker 4: a gazillion cars even with the car tax. When you

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Speaker 4: owe that money to the DMV, I.

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Speaker 1: Own a relatively new car, it doesn't come anywhere close

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Speaker 1: to that.

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Speaker 6: Nope, nearly forty seven thousand dollars for an employee's personal expenses,

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Speaker 6: including a year of rent.

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Speaker 4: Wait a second and forty six thousand Okay, how much

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Speaker 4: are we paying a month for that? That's like what

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Speaker 4: almost four thousand dollars a month. Let's see forty six

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Speaker 4: thousand divided by twelve, So they're in a thirty eight

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Speaker 4: hundred dollars subsidized department from this nonprofit.

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Speaker 1: How is it that everyone in this family is not

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Speaker 1: in prison yet?

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Speaker 4: They did put it all on their taxes. I wonder

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Speaker 4: how much of this is legal and a.

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Speaker 6: Past employee, you're receiving more than nine thousand dollars for

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Speaker 6: personal expenses.

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Speaker 7: Be misleading donors as to what money that is being

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Speaker 7: donated to the organization is being actually used.

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Speaker 6: For cal State es to be Assistant Professor Brandon Phillips

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Speaker 6: says there should be more accountability in the nonprofit sector.

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Speaker 7: When these documents get submitted to the IRRs, you know,

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Speaker 7: they should be going over them and doing you know,

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Speaker 7: oversight and holding organizations accountable. But because of you know,

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Speaker 7: some of the disarray that's happening in federal government right

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Speaker 7: now now, there is probably things like this that are

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Speaker 7: falling through the cracks.

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Speaker 6: The nonprofits IRS nine ninety form shows they generated seven

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Speaker 6: point nine million dollars in revenue but also lost more

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Speaker 6: than six hundred forty two thousand dollars between twenty twenty

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Speaker 6: three and twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: WHOA, and let me tell you something.

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Speaker 1: It's not just true in the United States, it's true

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Speaker 1: in any country that allows graft like this to exist.

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Speaker 1: When a government is fundamentally corrupt, there's only one way

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Speaker 1: for taxes to go and that's up because you constantly

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Speaker 1: need more money to pay more people off. I mean,

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Speaker 1: look at how many people in this one family alone

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Speaker 1: are living off of the spoils produced by this nonprofit.

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Speaker 2: It's a recipe for disaster.

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Speaker 1: Look at how many of these governments are asking for

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Speaker 1: tax increases because they don't have the money to pay

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Speaker 1: their bills. Well, they don't have the money to pay

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Speaker 1: their bills, because this is where it's going.

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Speaker 6: It reached out to the nonprofit to see if they'd

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Speaker 6: sit down with us. Lisa Preston, the executive director, declined

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Speaker 6: our requests for an interview, saying, quote, the issues in

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Speaker 6: the tax filing that you are referring to are still

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Speaker 6: being researched and final determinations have not been made at

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Speaker 6: this time.

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Speaker 4: You need to research how much money you're given to

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Speaker 4: your extended family.

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Speaker 1: Well, it sounds like it's going to be quite a project.

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Speaker 6: Accordingly, I am not at liberty to discuss these issues

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Speaker 6: with the press at this time.

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Speaker 9: Whenever you are paying a family member, even when it's disclosed,

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Speaker 9: that raises concerns about related party transactions and whether or

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Speaker 9: not it was done at a arm's length transaction.

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Speaker 6: AK Medical Hunger program has a board of directors to

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Speaker 6: help oversee operations. Each member gets a copy of the

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Speaker 6: tax filings. We reached out to the board chairman, Jim Anderson,

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Speaker 6: who wrote, in part quote, I am not aware of

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Speaker 6: any funds being used for personal matters by Ecumenical Hunger

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Speaker 6: Programs Executive director and.

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Speaker 2: You should really watch this report on kpix.

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Speaker 1: You'll learn a whole lot.

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Speaker 6: Ecumenical Hunger Program did administer a family sustainability program that

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Speaker 6: was started during COVID that provided financial assistance to families

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Speaker 6: in need in our community.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, they provided financial assistance to one family, theirs.

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Speaker 4: They were a family in need and Families was the

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Speaker 4: extended family. This is a giant go fund me disguised

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Speaker 4: as a nonprofits.

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Speaker 6: This program is no longer in existence. We also reached

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Speaker 6: out to the board treasurer, who signed off on the

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Speaker 6: documents but did not hear back. Tax attorney Sam Brockman

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Speaker 6: weighs in there was a section on the tax return

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Speaker 6: that noted that they did an independent audit.

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Speaker 8: Whatever that means when you signed tax filings or signed

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Speaker 8: under penalty of perjury and somebody takes the overall responsibility

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Speaker 8: for the content of the return, so I would think

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Speaker 8: that there is some level of ownership or knowledge over

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Speaker 8: these are the things. These are the financial transactions that

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Speaker 8: this charity engages in.

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Speaker 6: We contacted the Attorney General's office and a spokesperson said,

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Speaker 6: quote to protect their integrity, we are unable to comment

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Speaker 6: on even to confirm or deny potential or ongoing investigations.

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Speaker 6: In past cases where wrongdoing was found within nonprofits, you.

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Speaker 8: Can conduct an audit. There are civil fines and penalties

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Speaker 8: and sanctions that are commonly associated with these. You know,

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Speaker 8: those are kind of some of the examples on the

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Speaker 8: state side. On the federal side, there are tax consequences

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Speaker 8: to these transactions.

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Speaker 9: When you look at their Form nine to ninety from

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Speaker 9: the previous year, it was one line item that said

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Speaker 9: payment of personal expenses, and it had everything was lumped

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Speaker 9: into one, which.

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Speaker 1: Could well if you itemized it. People might ask questions,

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Speaker 1: so why bother doing that?

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Speaker 2: Where did the four thousand dollars of the DMV come from?

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Speaker 9: Which makes me want to ask the question if that

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Speaker 9: was broken out, how much would we see of employees'

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Speaker 9: personal expenses.

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Speaker 6: Ecumenical Hunger program says its mission is to help neighbors

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Speaker 6: in need. The question is whether some of that money

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Speaker 6: they've raised is also helping families of those running the nonprofit.

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Speaker 4: I think you just answered the question. I think you

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Speaker 4: spent about six minutes answering that question.

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Speaker 5: Now, the Board of a Director's chairman told us the

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Speaker 5: board is looking into whether the grants from the Family

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Speaker 5: Sustainability Program were properly administrated, but he said he would

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Speaker 5: not comment until that research has concluded. We're going to

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Speaker 5: keep checking in on this story.

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Speaker 4: Just one in the line of many, many, many, many,

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Speaker 4: many nonprofits out there in California making a whole bunch

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Speaker 4: of money that's supposed to go help the needy, that's

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Speaker 4: really helping the people run the organization.

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Speaker 1: Mark my word. If California ever gets an honest attorney general,

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Speaker 1: or if any of these das at the county level

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Speaker 1: decide they're going to start looking into this, the sky

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Speaker 1: is the limit, because I think most of them are crooked.

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Speaker 1: Most of these nonprofits, most of these NGOs are money

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Speaker 1: laundering schemes, but no one's paying attention to them because

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Speaker 1: they're politically connected. And if you pop one of these nonprofits,

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Speaker 1: then you would have to pop the politicians who are

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Speaker 1: giving them the money too, because some of that money

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Speaker 1: makes its way back to the politicians in different forms.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it can be in money going back into their campaigns.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it can be these organizations employing the friends or

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Speaker 1: family members of the politicians. It's a bad look for

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Speaker 1: the politicians. So the politicians don't want anyone poking around

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Speaker 1: at the standards and practices of these organizations because all

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Speaker 1: of them are going to end up looking bad. It's

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Speaker 1: the John Phillips Show. It's the John Phillip Show. Eight

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Speaker 1: hundred two two two five two two two is a

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Speaker 1: telephone number one eight hundred two two two five two

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Speaker 1: two two. What are the emails that we get on

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Speaker 1: a regular basis and have been getting since the fires

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Speaker 1: in Altadena and Pacific Palisades happened. Was that a lot

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Speaker 1: of people out there believe that those fires were intentional

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Speaker 1: because developers and the government want longtime residents out so

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Speaker 1: they can take that very valuable land and turn it

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Speaker 1: into high density housing and make a killing. I'm not

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Speaker 1: quite there yet in terms of being that conspiratorial, but

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Speaker 1: we do know that there are people who are finding

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Speaker 1: ways to make money off of the land in both

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Speaker 1: of those areas.

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Speaker 4: And residents are very upset that former lots that had

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Speaker 4: single family homes are being too turned into buildings that

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Speaker 4: have ten units. And apparently part of this is because

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Speaker 4: Gavin Newsom put in protections against SB nine in the

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Speaker 4: Palisades but not in Altadena. For more on this, we

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Speaker 4: go to NBC four in Los Angeles drilling.

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Speaker 10: And hammering the welcome sounds of construction to rebuild homes

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Speaker 10: after the Eaton fire.

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Speaker 4: But not all rebuilding is good.

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Speaker 3: Apparently, that's according.

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Speaker 10: To some of the people in Alta Dina.

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Speaker 11: They say they were now plans for several homes to

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Speaker 11: be placed on a single lot, up to ten on

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Speaker 11: one property.

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Speaker 6: Are Lalita alone.

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Speaker 4: That must be a real big property, or that's going

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Speaker 4: to be a stacking pack right there.

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Speaker 1: And what's funny is people like Gavin Newsom always deny

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Speaker 1: that this is going to happen, and then it does,

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Speaker 1: and then you go, okay, well, what the hell we

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Speaker 1: need more housing?

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Speaker 4: Opez spoke with concerned neighbors.

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Speaker 11: After fifteen months, we finally moved back into our house.

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Speaker 11: These longtime altadenions are returning to their beloved neighborhood after

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Speaker 11: the Eaten fire. A neighborhood they say will change forever.

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Speaker 11: If developers are allowed to build multiple homes on individual.

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Speaker 4: Lots, it's more than allowed to. They are incentivized to.

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Speaker 4: There are all kinds of tax incentives and funding avenues

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Speaker 4: that you can get if you offer to build way

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Speaker 4: more houses than are currently on a lot.

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Speaker 2: Well, think about it.

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Speaker 1: If you have one single family home that's protected by Prop. Thirteen,

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Speaker 1: you can get rid of it and then put ten

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Speaker 1: units there where ten different people have to pay current

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Speaker 1: property taxes on it. Of course, the government's going to

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Speaker 1: want that to.

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Speaker 11: Ten on one property.

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Speaker 4: Not only can they subdivide it into seven lots, they

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Speaker 4: can also add four units to each property.

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Speaker 11: These neighbors among a growing group making and posting signs like.

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Speaker 4: These ten units on a single family lot makes no

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Speaker 4: sense for this community.

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Speaker 2: It's not what I was here before.

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Speaker 4: Don't let Scott Wiener hear this. He'll try to write

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Speaker 4: a new bill so it can be twelve. Imagine what

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Speaker 4: parking would be like in that neighborhood. Oh, they assume

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Speaker 4: that you're all going to take public transit, which does

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Speaker 4: not exist in Altadena.

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Speaker 10: And it shouldn't be what we have going forward.

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Speaker 11: In California's quest to create more housing. Existing state law

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Speaker 11: allows additional housing units on certain single family residential properties.

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Speaker 11: In fact, many Altadena neighbors are living in ADUs while

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Speaker 11: they rebuild their homes. I'm very much pro housing and

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Speaker 11: affordable and affordable housing, but there's a right way to

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Speaker 11: do it and a wrong way to do it.

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Speaker 4: Deep watch out, they're going to start calling you a nimby.

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Speaker 11: I feel like the infrastructure will hold up if there

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Speaker 11: are so many multiple units on one lot.

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Speaker 10: So under the current configuration, absolutely not La County super Hey.

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Speaker 4: I never heard her use that before. Usually she says

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Speaker 4: the other thing, but I don't usually hear her given

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Speaker 4: a big a and he said absolutely.

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Speaker 11: Reviser Katherine Barger represents Altadena and has heard the concerns.

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Speaker 10: And that's why I went back to Washington, DC with

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Speaker 10: Mehorbas was we have submitted an ask to the federal

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Speaker 10: government and that ask includes infrastructure based on water, roads, utilities.

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Speaker 6: These were really not.

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Speaker 4: Well, you're not going to get that. You know what's interesting, though,

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Speaker 4: is Catherine Barger, thanks to the reporting of NBC four

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Speaker 4: on that two and a half billion dollars that Gavin

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Speaker 4: says was for the fire victims, that is not spent,

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Speaker 4: and a lot of it went to reimburse the CHP

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Speaker 4: for the ice protests. Katherine Barger has now put in

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Speaker 4: a request to the state. Hey, that two and a

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Speaker 4: half billion dollars you have allocated, can we use that

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Speaker 4: to improve the infrastructure in Altadena.

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Speaker 2: Good for her.

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Speaker 5: Laws that were proposed to rebuild a community that has

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Speaker 5: been damaged as a result of a disaster.

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Speaker 11: State Senator Sasha Renee pres As. Her proposed build to

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Speaker 11: prevent large corporations from buying fire damage lots in bulk

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Speaker 11: has now been amended to include a five year moratorium

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Speaker 11: in Alted DA to prevent building under the housing density law.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but by the time that passes, all of the

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Speaker 4: houses are going to be bought. So there you go,

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Speaker 4: ten unit buildings being constructed in what used to be

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Speaker 4: at single family homes that burn down in the eating fire.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, and I know no one wants to

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Speaker 1: hear this. If my home burned down in Altadena or

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Speaker 1: Pacific Palisades, I would not stay in fight. I would

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Speaker 1: move on because this is going to become, not going

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Speaker 1: to become. This is a never ending nightmare for these

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Speaker 1: poor people. All Right, We've got one more hour coming

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Speaker 1: up on The John Phillips Show, Don't You Go Anywhere,